OK so now we know that when you hunt a blind you can only look and hunt out of the "main" window and if this "main" window is overlooking the neighbors property then the blind "is hunting" the neighbors property. What a load...

Everyone is talking about this dude setting his stand back more into the property. Well, what will that do? He can still shoot deer that come from the neighbors property. He can still look over the neighbors fence and see whats walking over there. You really think 100 yards or more will make a difference in either of those concerns? And I don't have a clue what else is out there, but based on the pics here the terrain looks pretty wooded, so I don't think there would be "plenty of spaces" to place another feeder and stand without doing some serious clearing, which maybe he isn't allowed to do as a lease member.

I just don't understand why you all are bent out of shape over the direction of this guys stand. Maybe that's just the way it went up and he can't move it. Not everyone has access to tractors and trucks and maybe the lease members put up the stand and couldn't move it again? It is metal after all, not wood. but even if wood it would still require a vehicle to move it. Maybe the guy is a new hunter and doesn't know you can move stands with vehicles. I don't know. But until someone talks to him in a civil manner no one will know why he wants to have his "main" window facing into the neighbors land.

All the responses keep coming back to the blind "facing" the wrong direction...would it matter if the stairs were facing the fence? After all there is a window on the door, so the dude could still see and shoot toward the fence. Or is the issue really the set back that everyone wants? No one has given me an answer on what a "polite" set back should be, but there have been several comments on this as well...

So what is it, the view into the neighbors land or the set back? Or is it truly both?

maximus, how is that obtuse? I am giving reasons for why this guy might have set up the bind like that. I think it is obtuse to see something like this stand an make an assumption that he is automatically going to be poaching form the neighbors property, esp with the feeder inside the blind further into the leased land. Why would a shot go the other way?

Can you give any more info on this that would make the issue seem more or less obtuse?

I was there and saw what his possibilities are/were that he could have chosen so far as setting up that blind.
Like I said, at the very least he could have set his blind up to where the stairs, main window were running parallel with his side of the fence line and as I mentioned before, this would give him a greater hunting view of his area

Stub, I am not trying to be a dolt here. I am just trying to understand what is so upsetting to everyone...is it the lack of set back, direction the blind is facing, or both?

(Answer; as many of have stated BOTH and that is out of common sense, courtesy and respect)

And for the record, no I don’t set up on neighbors fenceline. This is not my blind. I don’t shoot across fenceines and don’t recommend anyone set up this way. ( That is good to know for it seems like you were trying to justify his decision on setup)

HOWEVER, I don’t own that land and neither do any of us commenting (that has been disclosed).
(I do not own the land either but my close friend does and he does not appreciate or like it)

We can not tell someone they need to take their stand down any more than they can tell us the same. It’s their property.
(True but that is not the point!)

But, a civil discussion with the hunter might make things more understood or get somethings changed to benefit all involved.
(Agree! The land owner will get in touch with the other land owner and get it resolved)


Calling names and acting all “holier than thou” you can’t do that kind of stuff just gets everyone riled up. It isn’t productive.
Not saying you have done that stub. (Agree!)

Ok, so the direction of the stand is the big thing for you? I want you honestly answer: if the stairs were facing the correct way according to you (parallel to the fence so his main window was facing the fenceline and not the feeder or the neighbors property) that you would not be upset with the lack of a set back....

maximus, how is that obtuse? I am giving reasons for why this guy might have set up the bind like that. I think it is obtuse to see something like this stand an make an assumption that he is automatically going to be poaching form the neighbors property, esp with the feeder inside the blind further into the leased land. Why would a shot go the other way?

Can you give any more info on this that would make the issue seem more or less obtuse?

Funny how so many people don't like to be told how they should hunt, but have no problem telling other people how they should hunt.

Funny how so many people don't like to be told how they should hunt, but have no problem telling other people how they should hunt.

Most rifle hunters place their deer stands where they can see the farthest in multiple directions. Most land has the brush cleared out away from the fence lines so a vehicle can pass. This is why so many deer stands get placed on fence lines.

maximus, how is that obtuse? I am giving reasons for why this guy might have set up the bind like that. I think it is obtuse to see something like this stand an make an assumption that he is automatically going to be poaching form the neighbors property, esp with the feeder inside the blind further into the leased land. Why would a shot go the other way?

Can you give any more info on this that would make the issue seem more or less obtuse?

Rancher I think you need to hang around people that worship something other than antlers...

You see, I was raised there is a higher power that knows what we do even when no one else will. I believe the way I live my life is a reflection of my devotion to Him, and even if I wanted to shoot that deer, that living the moral way is the best even if it doesn't benefit me. Do right, not say you did right.

This was perfectly illustrated by my son who last day of youth extended season two years ago, we had a big 10 walk in to our hunting area. We had been chasing him for the previous three years, never seeing him in person but he was camera a lot. Biggest deer either of us would have ever seen, let alone shoot. This deer comes in along a fence line, I see him and as he walks to our area my son can't catch eyes on him. He came up to our food plot, stopped for a few seconds, and then instead of jumping into the food plot dropped into a ravine and came up near our feeder. He jumped into the feeder which didn't give us a good shot. Just as legal time expired the buck jumped out of the feed pen into the food plot. He gave us shot opportunity after shot opportunity and we had enough light left to shoot, but it was past legal time.

So, I ask you, how many of those campfire friends would have done the unethical, immoral, illegal shot at the deer of a lifetime (it was for us, probably not for many on here)? How many of your campfire friends would have taken the rifle form the kid and shot the deer initially, even though it was youth season?

I like to think that my hunting friends and my hunting family would pass knowing it wasn't the right thing to do. I know when given the temptation, my son and I passed.

I am not shooting a deer over a fence on a neighbors property.

Rancher, I know what you are saying, and I am sure I have broken bread with some people like that.

However, when I see something like a stand on the fence with a feeder away from the fence, the only thing I think is the person is obviously hunting a feeder on their property, not the neighbors property.

I try to see the best in humanity, knowing it is a fallen world. I try not to be too cynical and see the worst in humanity, although my profession does sometimes allow my mind to sink to the dark side, I try hard to bring myself out of it quickly. And that's where I find my time the woods very helpful, it refreshes me to the point where I can remember why I do what I do.

Funny how so many people don't like to be told how they should hunt, but have no problem telling other people how they should hunt.