You can push a 110 Accubond to 3900 fps without a belt.

Tff..."sort of apples to apples" is what I said. Same weight bullet, almost same BC. The diff is that one, the 257 Wby, is held in almost religious regard by Weatherbyites. All I pointed out is that we "don't need no stinkin Weatherby" to get that level of performance. That, of course, was a mean evil heretical statement to some, though I said it with a smile. :-)

Ssshhh let him go, he thinks he's discovered something.

Both shoot about 3500, which one you think will be traveling faster and flatter out past the muzzle. The 270 will be dragging arse by 100 yards.

Well ya'll duke it out. My hunting soul is at stake. Keep me and other dudes like me from getting a Weatherby of it really is all show and no go.

^^Pure silliness^^

Nothing to duke out it's kind of a BS comparison.

270 19% below standard weight compared to 257 10% over standard weight, with standard being 130 for the 270 and 100 for the 257. The muzzle velocities may be equal but the 270 eats dust from that point on from it's low BC and larger area. kinda like throwing a softball and a hard ball with both having the same weight at the same speed.

having both and loving both the 257 hands down every time until i bought a 240WBY. like i say some guys like em big thick and plain, some likem hot

There is no standard weight. The 130 is common in the 270, but the guys that shoot 140's or 150's might not think the 130 is standard. And the 260, for instance. The long distance guys would say the 140 is their standard, but many of us hunters shoot the 120's.

Allllllllll I said was that with a 110 gr Accubond, the 270 pushes it a bit faster. And the trajectory to 600 yards is almost identical. So we don't need no...you know the rest.

Is the 110 grain accubond load a factory loading?

It's probably factory only in the 6.8 SPC, which I think it was designed for.

Says the 7 mag cult member

I'd love a .300 Win Mag too. I just can't justify it.

I hear a 223 is the way to go? With perfect shot placement it'll kill anything u want it to? No need for those high power overkill calibers. Pretty sure I read something like that somewhere...

Sorry but those have been standard for about as long as I've been alive and probably longer. Faster at the muzzle but slower at 100 yards and much slower at 600. As far as trajectory I call BS! With a BC of .370 and a diameter of 277 there's no way it will hang with a .418 BC 257 diameter traveling at 3500 unless the magic 270 110 has figured out a way to defy mass, momentum and velocity. I also noticed they have the 270 showing MAX load .99 percent compressed while I still have a little ways to go with the 257. Had you just left it at both having a muzzle velocity of 3500 there would be no problem but you threw in the 600 yard claim and I'm not buying that one at all.

At 600 yards, I'm showing 2.6" more drop on the .270. With a 10 mph crosswind, 3.7" more drift.

Take from that what you will. Just thought it would be nice to put some numbers to it.

I am a big proponent of shooting cartridges at or near their "standard" or "development" bullet weights. This is how they were designed. I find much more consistency among bullet performance at/near standard/designed weights. The differences become especially apparent when using the same weight bullets with cartridges of different diameter. This makes sense to me. A .270 or .30-06 was not designed with shooting a 110 grain bullet in mind.

I'm not an expert, but I assume that's why you generally don't see optimum performance levels from most cartridges unless you are in the "wheelhouse" of their designs.

All that said, I don't see any practical difference for hunting for 603Country using his 110 grain .270 load. If it is accurate, discussing the differences between it and the .257 Wby. for hunting seems pretty pointless.

Nog, it has nothing to do with practicality. They're simply determining the value of the Weatherby name.

Those numbers are neglegable.

1. Most of the poeple that defend the Weatherby can't shoot that small at 600 yards anyway.

2. This bullet weight in question is one of the absolute worst choices to be trying to shoot to 600 with any regularity.

I'm back. Need coffee. I guess we know now who owns a Wby. They are a proud people, and easily angered.

No, I am not switching to the 110 gr AB in my 270. I'm not shooting at anything at 600 yards, and if I did, it would not be with that bullet. Still, it does appear to be a good option for central Texas hunting, being a good sturdy bullet that will fly like it was shot from a .....257 Wby.

Still, I say, there are no "standard" bullet weights, only weights that we commonly associate with calibers.

And I think we all now see that the 257 Wby is indeed still a good choice for our South Texas Sendero rifle, but we also see that you can equal the performance without buying a Weatherby. Who knew...and maybe that does dim the luster of the 257 Wby just a bit - maybe.

Truly, there was and is no offense intended toward the Weatherby folk. I was just pointing out an interesting new bullet option for the 270 and how fast it could be pushed. The reaction of a few was a bit more intense than I expected. That said, I enjoyed the chat.

All that was a tad confusing. I hunt with a Remington 700 in .270 shooting a Federal Premium 130 gran Nosler Ballistic tip. I can't see shooting a 110 gran bullet in a .270.

Then there are also the people who are not impressed by stupidity and dishonesty.

Well...here we go. Charlesb, who are you calling stupid and dishonest in regard to this discussion? Nobody, in my view, has shown any sign of either.

Dang charlesb you need a hug sir......

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