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Hornady Leverevolution 30/30 #9177936 01/28/25 05:11 PM
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Looking for real world insight on this ammo. I have had a Marlin Dirty 30 a long time just never used it much. Ammo is pricey compared to other 3030 ammo. I have watched videos etc and it appears to be a toss up if it is worth the cost. Kinda hoping to reach out to 200 yards with a scope on that rifle.

Maybe I am setting my hopes to high but looking for at least a 2 inch consistent groups. Looking at 140 grain btw. Anyone have any true world experience either good or bad? Thanks,


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Been shooting that stuff for 20 yrs in my 336. Works great. I load my own with the LeverE powder, 160FTX. Did 3 touching @ 100 long time age - competition with SIL's 308ME - he won, 2 in one hole. I use the 135gr FTX in BO, should be good in 30/30 also - for longer range.

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I’m pretty new to the 3030. Furthest I’ve shot mine is about 75 yards iron sight and eyes aren’t what they apparently used to be! Curious how the non lever revolution stuff is doing at 200?


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I've only shot the 160 grain version, was hoping my 336 would like it but it was grouping pretty inconsistently. I settled on Federal Fusion 150s; it actually shoots the regular ol 150 grain Winchester Power Points most accurately though, a hair better than the Fusions.

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I’ve had 2 336’s and used the leverevolution in both

I was never impressed, 2” at best I figure 2.5” was probably avg

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Shot them out of 94 AE. Would group about 1 1/4. Shot 6 axis with it before youngest son claimed the gun.

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I also handload for my .30-30 using LeverEvolution powder. While I can’t speak to how that specific factory ammo will group in your rifle, I’ve found LeverEvolution powder to perform exceptionally well in my loads. In my experience, the .30-30 shines in scenarios where the expected target is within 150 yards - that's the range I usually shoot it at. But yes, achieving 2-inch groups @ 200 yards with a scoped .30-30 is doable.

But you can't be any geek off the street, gotta be handy with the steel, if you know what I mean... hehe

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Aren't they known for being short? Meaning the fired brass is shorter than spec? Not sure how much that matters, really but it could explain the inconsistency among users.

I hand load a gas checked and powder coated Ranch Dog RNFP bullet that comes out around 173 grains over IMR3031 because the bullet was designed specifically for the chamber of my 1951 Marlin 336RC that is equipped with a Redfield steel peep sight so I don't think I am shooting 2" at 200 yards. It's not what the combo is for.


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Originally Posted by GasGuzzler
Aren't they known for being short? Meaning the fired brass is shorter than spec? Not sure how much that matters, really but it could explain the inconsistency among users.


The leverevolution brass for .357 and 45/70 (and possibly others) are trimmed short. They must be short to accommodate the longer bullet. The 30/30 does not have to be trimmed shorter to accommodate.

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Hornady brass is a tad short but I haven't had a problem with it. I do think they load it pretty 'hot' to get good numbers. MOA @ 200 isn't a bad hunting load.

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My Glenfield 60A likes them. Shoots about 1.25 MOA, which is pretty decent for an almost 50 year old rifle with about a million miles on it. Was my grandpa’s primary deer rifle for many of those miles. I have only killed one deer with it, but it was about a 175 yard poke. Complete pass through with massive internal damage. I’m a fan.

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I have shot WT, javi, and axis with the 160 gr Leverevolution. All DRT or a blood trail that Stevie Wonder could follow. Except for an Axis buck that I shot at 30 yards that didn't leave a blood trail but only went thirty yards.

I have shot them out of mine and my son's Marlin 336s (scoped) and consistently get three shot groups under an inch at 100 yards. Both of those 336s are circa 1971 and have Micro groove barrels. I don't know if that has anything to do with it. I have used the LR factory loads since 2008

The only other load I like in .30-30 is the Federal Premium with the 170 gr NP bullet but it got really expensive compared to the LR.


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I have a question in regards to the Hornady Leverevolution 30-30 ammo. I've been told it's good for post 64 Win model 94's, but not for pre-64's because of the barrel steel. Anyone have any thoughts or insights on that.


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Well, never really shot that ammo, all i know is this Remington Core Lok bullets i got when i bought this older
Winnie back in the 80's from a fellow, he gave me 7 boxes of ammo with the gun, it makes a big ole hole in any deer
you use it on! My nephew took a doe with it years go, and man it made a huge hole in her sides...... Hard to beat just
a simple bullet fired out of 70 year old rifle.

I hear these new polymer tip bullets for 30-30 guns now are the new thing?


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Never played with the leverevolution stuff. I do have a new respect for the old 30-30. My boy shot his first deer this year with a 30-30 and a speer 130 grain flat point at 2200-2300 fps. No shoulder or spine hit, deer fell on the spot pretty large exit and he left a puddle their that rivaled our pond.


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