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Re: Longhorn Lounge. [Re: S.A. hunter] #9168029 01/11/25 11:18 PM
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Arch has not really been tested. I’m gonna need to see him against a good defense on the road. At least once.

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Originally Posted by GusWayne
If Arch were in this NFL draft he would be the lock #1 pick


Not close. He is a pup that’s never been tested by a good secondary much less a great secondary. He has to learn his check down to set up long ball, long ball is easy with Texas Receivers and Texas OL against 80th rank defenses.

He is still an unknown, how many million is a 1rd pick worth?


Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, b/c they know not victory nor defeat"- #26 TR
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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
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If Arch were in this NFL draft he would be the lock #1 pick


Not close. He is a pup that’s never been tested by a good secondary much less a great secondary. He has to learn his check down to set up long ball, long ball is easy with Texas Receivers and Texas OL against 80th rank defenses.

He is still an unknown, how many million is a 1rd pick worth?


Bobo, all these picks are based on potential...

He has played, he does have an NFL arm, he does have speed and he comes from the Manning name

To me, there is no doubt he goes #1 if he were in this draft

You gonna take Cam Ward or Shedure over him???

Not a chance

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Originally Posted by Jgraider
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If somes don’t like what they got out of Ewers, they’d better hope Arch improves. Sark played who he thought was best. That’s what coaches do.


Yeah, it seems the TX homers have proclaimed Manning as the next Vince Young. All I can say is time will tell. He may be, or he may bomb, but he doesn't have enough consistent playing time to know at this point.


Not sure you can physically put Archie next to Vince and Cam.. lol


Yep. Like them or not, they were freaks on the college football field. VY threw it good enough and nobody could catch the guy. Manning ain't VY by a long stretch.

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Why not? Young was 6'5", Arch is 6'4" with a muscular build for a QB. Arch has not had the opportunity to play that Young & Cam did, so we are not comparing apples to apples situation.
Imagine if he had the reps in practice and playing times that Young and Cam had.

Dude has wheels, moves and a pretty accurate arm, on this run he was clocked at 20.7 mph!


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Size wise he is right there with VY and he's still filling out.

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Originally Posted by S.A. hunter
Size wise he is right there with VY and he's still filling out.


Remember watching the 2006 Rose Bowl Texas vs. USC for the National Championship, wondering why USC was not using Reggie Bush more?
I truly believe that had they used Bush more especially on their last drive, they would have won.

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Arch has 9TDs. Most of those against UTSA and ULM.

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Originally Posted by S.A. hunter
Size wise he is right there with VY and he's still filling out.


Not even same athlete, not even close. But by all means keep going.


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Originally Posted by S.A. hunter
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If Arch were in this NFL draft he would be the lock #1 pick

Aside from Ward there isn't much. I think you could be right.


Wow that's crazy talk and I think y'all know that.

Re: Longhorn Lounge. [Re: Stub] #9168090 01/12/25 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Stub
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Size wise he is right there with VY and he's still filling out.


Remember watching the 2006 Rose Bowl Texas vs. USC for the National Championship, wondering why USC was not using Reggie Bush more?
I truly believe that had they used Bush more especially on their last drive, they would have won.


No, they where beat before the game, Vince was working on draft numbers, he was in pocket entire first half, as soon as it was time to finish it he took over


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Texas has tried to recreate Young with guys who look like him. Swoops, heard, Thompson. Didn’t take.

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Originally Posted by Stub


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Why not? Young was 6'5", Arch is 6'4" with a muscular build for a QB. Arch has not had the opportunity to play that Young & Cam did, so we are not comparing apples to apples situation.
Imagine if he had the reps in practice and playing times that Young and Cam had.

Dude has wheels, moves and a pretty accurate arm, on this run he was clocked at 20.7 mph!




Stub not even close at this point. If it was Sak would be playing for a National championship and Ewers would have transferred out last year.

Kids got potential, but not comparable at the point in time.


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Originally Posted by S.A. hunter
Size wise he is right there with VY and he's still filling out.


Yeah, well that's the point. Everything Manning related is pure speculation at this point, as Bobo described perfectly. VY is a proven commodity in the college game, Manning isn't. Saying he would be the #1 pick in the NFL draft is a retarded thing to say given his unproven status. VY couldn't hack it in the NFL, what makes you think Manning can right now?

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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
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Size wise he is right there with VY and he's still filling out.


Not even the same athlete, not even close. But by all means keep going.


And people around here wonder why I can't take this idiot serious?

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I still think college QB is very different than being a pro. I think of best college QBs of all time. Most didn’t have NFL success, some of that is going to a bad situation.
I think being a great college QB is just different.

Tebow
Leonart
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None of those listed has last name Manning...

Grandpa and 2 uncles came prior, yes NFL teams would sell their soul to take him 1 this year

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Either you think Sark is a great coach and did everything he could to win a natty or you think he’s a cuck with a man crush on ewers. Cant be both. Decide.



My vote is for the man crush.

Sark is an average coach at what should always be one of the top 5 most dominant programs in the nation. Texas has more high school football players than any other state in the nation. What a talent pool of athletes! Combine that with lots of donor money, loyal fans, and lots of donor money and you should be able to win 10-11 regular season games consistently every year and a national championship or runner up every 5-8 years.

Just my 2 cents.
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Arch is going to have to do more than light up UTSA, UL Monroe and run some wildcat sparingly before I or most get all in on him. He may or may not have a better upside than Ewers, time will tell. Better QB last night was Will Howard and wasn't even real close, he completed far more contested, in coverage passes than Ewers even attempted. Ewers seemed to be playing not to screw up than trying to win. Maybe the back to back bowl losses to WU had something to do with his pysche...






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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
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Size wise he is right there with VY and he's still filling out.


Not even same athlete, not even close. But by all means keep going.

I'm pretty sure someone said physically, and not athletically, but keep talking....

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Originally Posted by Jgraider
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Size wise he is right there with VY and he's still filling out.


Not even the same athlete, not even close. But by all means keep going.


And people around here wonder why I can't take this idiot serious?

Someone is off his meds again....

And nobody cares about what you think.

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Originally Posted by Jgraider
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Size wise he is right there with VY and he's still filling out.


Yeah, well that's the point. Everything Manning related is pure speculation at this point, as Bobo described perfectly. VY is a proven commodity in the college game, Manning isn't. Saying he would be the #1 pick in the NFL draft is a retarded thing to say given his unproven status. VY couldn't hack it in the NFL, what makes you think Manning can right now?


Show me where I said he would be the #1 pick.....

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Originally Posted by GusWayne
None of those listed has last name Manning...

Grandpa and 2 uncles came prior, yes NFL teams would sell their soul to take him 1 this year


You've obviously been huffing paint with SA Hunter.

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Originally Posted by S.A. hunter
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Size wise he is right there with VY and he's still filling out.


Yeah, well that's the point. Everything Manning related is pure speculation at this point, as Bobo described perfectly. VY is a proven commodity in the college game, Manning isn't. Saying he would be the #1 pick in the NFL draft is a retarded thing to say given his unproven status. VY couldn't hack it in the NFL, what makes you think Manning can right now?


Show me where I said he would be the #1 pick.....


Evidently you've got the mental capacity of a 3 year old and can't remember what you said 30 minutes ago.

Originally Posted by S.A. hunter
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If Arch were in this NFL draft he would be the lock #1 pick

Aside from Ward there isn't much. I think you could be right.

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Size wise he is right there with VY and he's still filling out.


Yeah, well that's the point. Everything Manning related is pure speculation at this point, as Bobo described perfectly. VY is a proven commodity in the college game, Manning isn't. Saying he would be the #1 pick in the NFL draft is a retarded thing to say given his unproven status. VY couldn't hack it in the NFL, what makes you think Manning can right now?


Show me where I said he would be the #1 pick.....


Evidently you've got the mental capacity of a 3 year old and can't remember what you said 30 minutes ago.

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If Arch were in this NFL draft he would be the lock #1 pick

Aside from Ward there isn't much. I think you could be right.

Maybe you have problems reading....

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Originally Posted by Jgraider
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None of those listed has last name Manning...

Grandpa and 2 uncles came prior, yes NFL teams would sell their soul to take him 1 this year


You've obviously been huffing paint with SA Hunter.



I can’t tell if y’all are serious

He would absolutely be a 1/1 in this draft

Their last legit QB was McNair 20 years ago

Of course, they’d take Arch if they could

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