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Re: ERCOT is on the edge today
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08/18/23 10:14 PM
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I bet all the idiots, sorry I meant "real successful people" that live in McMansions have nothing at all to do with this. The new American dream is a 5000 sq ft house on a 6000 sq ft lot. Most of the time for only two people.
It's really sad what we have become. So a person living in a 5000 sq. Home is an idiot. Got it. Maybe require everyone to live in a 1500sq. 3/2 instead or even better, government housing projects. That’s what we need to do. I just went and scrolled through his previous posts to verify he is who i thought. Remember if you dont have 1000 acres your opinion doesnt matter to him. Every one that lives in a city is an idiot to him. dude never has anything positive to say. Pretty sure he probably lives alone and hasnt touched a piece of agricultural equipment in 15 years. Nailed it. I think if I were that miserable I would end it. I've driven through Katy once. I would definitely end it if I had to spend my life there.
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Re: ERCOT is on the edge today
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08/18/23 10:21 PM
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Some folks just gotta look down on other folks. What a sad, @#$%^&* way to live.
...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
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Re: ERCOT is on the edge today
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08/18/23 10:21 PM
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I bet all the idiots, sorry I meant "real successful people" that live in McMansions have nothing at all to do with this. The new American dream is a 5000 sq ft house on a 6000 sq ft lot. Most of the time for only two people.
It's really sad what we have become. Don’t forget a yard that looks like the fairway in Augusta. Yards don’t require electricity to maintain…. Boy nothing gets past you does it! Regular ole rogue scholar!
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Re: ERCOT is on the edge today
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08/18/23 10:23 PM
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It's "Rhodes Scholar". Cecil Rhodes...as in Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe). He was gay ya know. 
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...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
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Re: ERCOT is on the edge today
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08/18/23 10:40 PM
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Well I’m clearly no scholar!
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Re: ERCOT is on the edge today
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08/18/23 10:51 PM
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You tell 'em ducknbass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: ERCOT is on the edge today
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08/18/23 11:03 PM
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Maybe if we hadn’t let yuppies (thanks Obama) shut down the coal fired plants we wouldn’t be in this situation.
Nuclear is the way forward.
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Re: ERCOT is on the edge today
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08/18/23 11:04 PM
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I bet all the idiots, sorry I meant "real successful people" that live in McMansions have nothing at all to do with this. The new American dream is a 5000 sq ft house on a 6000 sq ft lot. Most of the time for only two people.
It's really sad what we have become. My electric bill for my 3500sft pool cabana isnt the issue. The 5 electric irrigation sprinkler for corn and coastal pivots now thats a problem. Thank god the rest are diesel. Anybody need some hay 
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, b/c they know not victory nor defeat"- #26 TR
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Re: ERCOT is on the edge today
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08/18/23 11:25 PM
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I bet all the idiots, sorry I meant "real successful people" that live in McMansions have nothing at all to do with this. The new American dream is a 5000 sq ft house on a 6000 sq ft lot. Most of the time for only two people.
It's really sad what we have become. My electric bill for my 3500sft pool cabana isnt the issue. The 5 electric irrigation sprinkler for corn and coastal pivots now thats a problem. Thank god the rest are diesel. Anybody need some hay  I'm all in on using energy to produce something. The pivots are producing corn and coastal hay which is feed. However I'm not in favor of all the subdivision mcmansions that people build just so they can waste energy peter measuring.
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Re: ERCOT is on the edge today
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08/18/23 11:29 PM
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Shocking some people act like they can’t survive 8-10 hours without the government.
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Re: ERCOT is on the edge today
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08/18/23 11:40 PM
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I bet all the idiots, sorry I meant "real successful people" that live in McMansions have nothing at all to do with this. The new American dream is a 5000 sq ft house on a 6000 sq ft lot. Most of the time for only two people.
It's really sad what we have become. o My electric bill for my 3500sft pool cabana isnt the issue. The 5 electric irrigation sprinkler for corn and coastal pivots now thats a problem. Thank god the rest are diesel. Anybody need some hay  I'm all in on using energy to produce something. The pivots are producing corn and coastal hay which is feed. However I'm not in favor of all the subdivision mcmansions that people build just so they can waste energy peter measuring. The reality is most those new McMansion use less electricity they country houses of your county.(foundation or double wide) Those McMansion finish outs arent builder grade built to country code. 6” exterior walls with 6” of closed cell insulation makes them pretty efficient. Regardless wether home, Irrigation or strip club the shortage is due to triffling federal regulation and soon to be carbon credits. almost all homes are way more efficient then they use to be
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, b/c they know not victory nor defeat"- #26 TR
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Re: ERCOT is on the edge today
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08/18/23 11:44 PM
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I'd be happy to curtail usage...if the electric company made it worth it to me. I am on a fixed rate...they are the one facing $2.50 - $4.00 a KWh for buying peak demand, if they did not have contracts in place to cover their customers when it gets hot.
If I have to to sweat and all I save is the $0.105/ KWH that my 3 year fixed contract says, then no way I am sweating.
Now split the difference and give me a $1.25 - $2.00/ KWH for reducing my usage and I am all in. That is $10 - $26 per hour I could save during peak times. By generator burns about $2.50 an hour in propane.
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Re: ERCOT is on the edge today
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08/18/23 11:52 PM
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I bet all the idiots, sorry I meant "real successful people" that live in McMansions have nothing at all to do with this. The new American dream is a 5000 sq ft house on a 6000 sq ft lot. Most of the time for only two people.
It's really sad what we have become. Don’t forget a yard that looks like the fairway in Augusta. Yards don’t require electricity to maintain…. Well, maybe not directly, but indirectly. The city or town has to pump it to you. 
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Re: ERCOT is on the edge today
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08/19/23 12:09 AM
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Producers VS Consumers.
Too many consumers now. The people that actually produce any type of food/energy are few and far between. No garden's, livestock or poultry. Just manicured lawns and HOA's.
I was at a big farm yesterday outside of Albany. Huge garden, big herd of cows and solar panels to power the ranch house.
Two totally different types of people.
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Re: ERCOT is on the edge today
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08/19/23 12:19 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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Producers VS Consumers.
Too many consumers now. The people that actually produce any type of food/energy are few and far between. No garden's, livestock or poultry. Just manicured lawns and HOA's.
I was at a big farm yesterday outside of Albany. Huge garden, big herd of cows and solar panels to power the ranch house.
Two totally different types of people. cant have one with out the other. Cant have producers with out consumers and cabt have consumers with out producers. He who is more efficient is the one that benefits the most off the other. As far as energy consumption per the definition producers use the most, but Again Goverment caps its usage and limits supply to raise costs
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, b/c they know not victory nor defeat"- #26 TR
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Re: ERCOT is on the edge today
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08/19/23 02:39 AM
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It's the nature of the business. I can't think of another industry where supply and demand must be kept so close in order to generate (pun intended) a profit. Imagine a factory without warehouses where everything that comes off the assembly line must have a buyer waiting or it gets thrown away. It doesn’t really work that way. You can’t ramp up a big generator with no where for it to go. Supply and demand have to to stay pretty close. That's the problem. Because you can't feasibly store excess power created by generators connected to the grid, what isn't used becomes unsellable waste. The same is true for transmission bandwidth where the term "just in time delivery" is sometimes used. It also points to why solar with on-site batteries is being pushed by some in the power industry.
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Re: ERCOT is on the edge today
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08/19/23 11:13 AM
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Producers VS Consumers.
Too many consumers now. The people that actually produce any type of food/energy are few and far between. No garden's, livestock or poultry. Just manicured lawns and HOA's.
I was at a big farm yesterday outside of Albany. Huge garden, big herd of cows and solar panels to power the ranch house.
Two totally different types of people. So, what are your thoughts about the ABCD ag conglomerates? 
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Re: ERCOT is on the edge today
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08/19/23 04:22 PM
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Do you not believe the solar fields will change the climate? Can you imagine the air temp above a solar array when it is 110 . It has to change things. I also have seen some scientists say the windmills change the weather patterns by disrupting the wind flow. These are unintended consequences that were probably not thought about before hand.
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Re: ERCOT is on the edge today
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08/19/23 06:22 PM
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Do you not believe the solar fields will change the climate? Can you imagine the air temp above a solar array when it is 110 . It has to change things. I also have seen some scientists say the windmills change the weather patterns by disrupting the wind flow. These are unintended consequences that were probably not thought about before hand. and the temperature under the solar arrays is killing everything in the soil.............the green way is anything but green
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Re: ERCOT is on the edge today
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08/19/23 06:24 PM
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So will a 5000 watt generator burn $410. worth of gas in a month? you would need apprx 600 gallons of gas to run a 5k generator full out 24x7 for a full month. (approx 20gal/day) $410 wouldn't last a full week! Yep. So my electric bill represents a bargain?
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Re: ERCOT is on the edge today
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08/19/23 06:36 PM
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Do you not believe the solar fields will change the climate? Can you imagine the air temp above a solar array when it is 110 . It has to change things. I also have seen some scientists say the windmills change the weather patterns by disrupting the wind flow. These are unintended consequences that were probably not thought about before hand. and the temperature under the solar arrays is killing everything in the soil.............the green way is anything but green Yes indeed! Solar and Wind Farms are inefficient and are targeting lands that are essential to out food and feed supplies.
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Re: ERCOT is on the edge today
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08/19/23 06:41 PM
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Producers VS Consumers.
Too many consumers now. The people that actually produce any type of food/energy are few and far between. No garden's, livestock or poultry. Just manicured lawns and HOA's.
I was at a big farm yesterday outside of Albany. Huge garden, big herd of cows and solar panels to power the ranch house.
Two totally different types of people. So, what are your thoughts about the ABCD ag conglomerates?  Dont get me started on Them and JBS 
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, b/c they know not victory nor defeat"- #26 TR
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Re: ERCOT is on the edge today
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08/19/23 06:59 PM
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So will a 5000 watt generator burn $410. worth of gas in a month? you would need apprx 600 gallons of gas to run a 5k generator full out 24x7 for a full month. (approx 20gal/day) $410 wouldn't last a full week! Yep. So my electric bill represents a bargain? It truly is. I.C.E. generators are terribly inefficient - 80% of your energy input (fuel) goes out the muffler pipe as waste heat, netting you 20% in electricity. In summer, it's kinda a necessity (to power an AC), but in winter you're FAR better off BURNING the fuel (nat gas/ propane) in a central furnace as they are 80-97% efficient! Running a generator in winter to power resistive heat-strips is throwing away 80% of the thermal energy and running up a massive fuel bill!
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Re: ERCOT is on the edge today
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08/19/23 07:24 PM
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So will a 5000 watt generator burn $410. worth of gas in a month? you would need apprx 600 gallons of gas to run a 5k generator full out 24x7 for a full month. (approx 20gal/day) $410 wouldn't last a full week! Yep. So my electric bill represents a bargain? It truly is. I.C.E. generators are terribly inefficient - 80% of your energy input (fuel) goes out the muffler pipe as waste heat, netting you 20% in electricity. In summer, it's kinda a necessity (to power an AC), but in winter you're FAR better off BURNING the fuel (nat gas/ propane) in a central furnace as they are 80-97% efficient! Running a generator in winter to power resistive heat-strips is throwing away 80% of the thermal energy and running up a massive fuel bill! My 6500 watt gas gen is just for keeping the necessities going: 2 aquariums, 2 refers, 1 freezer, internet/tv, submersible pump and robot for the pool, and in the summer a window unit ac and fans. Winter, we have the fireplace and an 18k btu Buddy heater.
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Re: ERCOT is on the edge today
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08/30/23 08:55 PM
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It a lot cooler than last week, but... 8/30 /2023 7:45 PM The forecasted demand exceeds the forecasted available generation. The wind is dying down about the time the sun starts to go down. There were some unplanned outage of thermal (nat gas) generators. That time of day, there is not much contracted interruptible commercial and industrial usage that they can tell to shut down. When the little blue dots get above the little purple dashes, something has to give. ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2023/08/full-38799-398848-ercot.jpg)
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