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Re: Wetland Project
[Re: BarneyWho]
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03/01/23 02:21 AM
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BarneyWho
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View looking Northeast from the potential blind site in the East Pool: View looking North: Views looking Northwest: Pano view:
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Re: Wetland Project
[Re: BarneyWho]
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03/01/23 02:28 AM
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BarneyWho
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Didn't take any pics from the blind site in the West Pool, but did take a pano view from the very NW corner of the wetland looking South: already got issues with beavers. I'm sure this will be an ongoing battle once the wetland is finished:
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Re: Wetland Project
[Re: BarneyWho]
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03/01/23 04:26 AM
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Mickey Moose
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Super cool. Just 3 guys wasting time...
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Re: Wetland Project
[Re: BarneyWho]
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03/01/23 04:33 AM
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Mickey Moose
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Trapping? Sell pelts (or hides or furs or whatever it's called)? Lease to trappers? I think this place is out of state, yes? If so, I don't know the laws. Hell, I don't them for trapping in Texas for that matter, heh. already got issues with beavers. I'm sure this will be an ongoing battle once the wetland is finished:
Last edited by Mickey Moose; 03/01/23 04:37 AM. Reason: bad m-f'er
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Re: Wetland Project
[Re: john paul]
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03/01/23 06:44 AM
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KWood_TSU
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Are you just driving into these fields at 5:30 in the morning and clouds of ducks are getting up in your headlights? Nope, usually when walking back to the spread after getting set up you'll see them, the ducks, flying from the field we're in to water, or from different fields to water. You'll see clouds of them around the same time before legal shooting flying to water. Then about 20 minutes later, the geese get up. The ducks never leave water while we're hunting. Then right after sunset you'll see the ducks flying back to the fields. In the evening, it's not all at once, it's 500 here, 100, there, etc. Like I said, it's crazy to see, I'm sure our playa lakes region has a lot to do with it too. About the only time we can field hunt ducks is if a really nasty cold front comes in, or it's snowing. Around the cold fronts it's usually new birds though.
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Re: Wetland Project
[Re: BarneyWho]
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03/01/23 01:28 PM
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john paul
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Re: Wetland Project
[Re: BarneyWho]
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03/01/23 03:33 PM
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I hope you didn't use diesel fuel only when burning those brush piles, the only way to get them to burn clean is to use a variety or a buffet if you will of different accelerants.
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Re: Wetland Project
[Re: john paul]
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03/01/23 04:05 PM
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LarryCopper
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I'm starting to think it's master level trolling. Where's garrett for his input?
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Re: Wetland Project
[Re: BarneyWho]
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03/01/23 04:53 PM
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HuntnFly67
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I have questions. Never considered embarking on a task like this, so excuse my ignorance and I certainly am not well versed on Kansas law/requirements.
Is there a tax advantage for building wetlands?
Sure seems like a crapton of government regulations and redtape to just go out and flood a field (intentionally oversimplified statement). I get the surveying for elevations and drainage and flow/hydrology, but why does the gubmint need to stick their nose in your bidness on what you do on YOUR land? Did you have to get all this cleared through the State of Kansas prior to moving dirt? I assume you are you flooding with a well and that is why? Or are you banking on rain water catch?
I think it stays off-radar in Texas if less than 200 acre feet are impounded?
Clearly after a 3-year hunt for the 'right' property, you've demonstrated patience, BUT will that push to 5-years of 'missed' hunting when this place is ready to drop the first bird?
This looks like a fun and worthy project. Keep the updates rolling.
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Re: Wetland Project
[Re: #Hayraker]
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03/01/23 06:11 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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I hope you didn't use diesel fuel only when burning those brush piles, the only way to get them to burn clean is to use a variety or a buffet if you will of different accelerants. that was smooth
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: Wetland Project
[Re: #Hayraker]
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03/01/23 07:55 PM
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ducknbass
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I hope you didn't use diesel fuel only when burning those brush piles, the only way to get them to burn clean is to use a variety or a buffet if you will of different accelerants. The only one that can out troll Garrett. True OG
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Re: Wetland Project
[Re: BarneyWho]
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03/01/23 10:25 PM
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garrett
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Kwoody is the real king troll, no way someone is really that dense, not even someone from Tarleton
Attention rickym, this is not a troll post, just a good hearted fun type of post
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Re: Wetland Project
[Re: garrett]
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03/01/23 11:17 PM
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Kwoody is the real king troll, no way someone is really that dense, not even someone from Tarleton These made me laugh out loud.
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Re: Wetland Project
[Re: BarneyWho]
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03/02/23 12:29 AM
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Ramball36
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Re: Wetland Project
[Re: Ramball36]
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03/02/23 03:28 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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All we need now is the captain beetle juice, beetle juice, beetle juice
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Re: Wetland Project
[Re: john paul]
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03/02/23 03:53 AM
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KWood_TSU
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Really, you want to explain? You think birds are flying to the field at 530 in the morning, then going to water? Look at delta, look at any data on radiomarked mallards or pintails. It shows that they feed at night in a lot of places, it's just extremely prolific in the northern panhandle. You don't have to believe it, I don't care if you do, but it just shows your ignorance. We know what we see, but if you have another explanation, please let's hear it. I literally have our own observations, and science that supports what I'm seeing and saying.
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Re: Wetland Project
[Re: BarneyWho]
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03/02/23 12:04 PM
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Ok I’ll bite. Let’s see your science that backs your claim up that ducks are dry feeding at night all across the world.
I never said 5:30 in the morning. I promise you I’ve hunted way more than you ever will in the panhandle, still do. I have seen ducks 100’s of times come about about 20-30 minutes before LST, grab a quick bite to eat because they don’t need a ton when it’s 40 degrees as a low, and head back to water about 10 minutes later. That is what I think you’re seeing. Until you drive into a field at 5:30 in the morning and see them get up in your head lights I will never believe you. I’m not saying a duck has never sat in a dry field all night but it damn sure isn’t happening very often. The only way I could ever see it happening is under a full moon.
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Re: Wetland Project
[Re: BarneyWho]
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03/02/23 01:23 PM
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Hailyeah
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https://www.realtree.com/the-duck-blog/full-moon-fever-when-ducks-and-geese-go-nocturnal There are some on here that have seen shooting at midnight in Louisiana and Mexico under a full moon on feeding ducks. In the UK and Scotland they can legally do it. I hunt with 2 retired feds that chased duck hunters in Louisiana back in the day a lot at night. When we ran hunt tests in Louisiana, the old timers down there bragged about it and how not just anybody could shoot well at night. lol Realtree
[Lone Watie hears a gun [censored] behind him; turns and sees Moonlight]
Lone Watie : It's not right, this damn woman doing something like this to me. I used to have power. Now old age is creeping up on me.
Josey Wales : More like old habits than old age.
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Re: Wetland Project
[Re: Hailyeah]
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03/02/23 01:59 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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https://www.realtree.com/the-duck-blog/full-moon-fever-when-ducks-and-geese-go-nocturnal There are some on here that have seen shooting at midnight in Louisiana and Mexico under a full moon on feeding ducks. In the UK and Scotland they can legally do it. I hunt with 2 retired feds that chased duck hunters in Louisiana back in the day a lot at night. When we ran hunt tests in Louisiana, the old timers down there bragged about it and how not just anybody could shoot well at night. lol Realtree this is kansas winters not louisiana or Mexico you can shoot ducks feeding at night when its 10 degrees, sure but who is keeping the water open on the river? Location is everything. Ice eaters work in flooded corn. Regardless 10 years worth of history on a wetland that has many back to back to back hunts says a percentage of ducks that do feed at night dont matter
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: Wetland Project
[Re: KWood_TSU]
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03/02/23 02:06 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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Really, you want to explain? You think birds are flying to the field at 530 in the morning, then going to water? Look at delta, look at any data on radiomarked mallards or pintails. It shows that they feed at night in a lot of places, it's just extremely prolific in the northern panhandle. You don't have to believe it, I don't care if you do, but it just shows your ignorance. We know what we see, but if you have another explanation, please let's hear it. I literally have our own observations, and science that supports what I'm seeing and saying. or the other way around, you are making a mountain out of a mole hill. historical reference taken over the past last 10 years via a property right down the road shows its doesnt matter to any degree if a percentage do or dont feed at night. In colder areas they are going back to roosting water to keep it open. my ranch in panhandle in places is 5 miles from Kansas. In 40 plus year I nor my family have seen duck and/or geese in any quantity feed at night during the mid to late winter season. They stay on roost water to keep it open. just the nature of the freeze line. Location is every thing
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: Wetland Project
[Re: BarneyWho]
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03/02/23 02:34 PM
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Hailyeah
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Bottom line is when you get the project done, it is going to be great and you will kill ducks on it. But there were some saying the feeding at night wasn't happening. On full moon nights on a lease we used to have that had flooded soybeans, we did poorly at first light, but did well midday and early afternoon.
[Lone Watie hears a gun [censored] behind him; turns and sees Moonlight]
Lone Watie : It's not right, this damn woman doing something like this to me. I used to have power. Now old age is creeping up on me.
Josey Wales : More like old habits than old age.
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Re: Wetland Project
[Re: Hailyeah]
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03/02/23 02:38 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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Bottom line is when you get the project done, it is going to be great and you will kill ducks on it. But there were some saying the feeding at night wasn't happening. On full moon nights on a lease we used to have that had flooded soybeans, we did poorly at first light, but did well midday and early afternoon. bottom line is this in Kansas and this is their third project in 10 years all with in 20 miles of each other. With 10 years worth of harvest history, maybe just maybe they know what they are doing.
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: Wetland Project
[Re: john paul]
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03/02/23 02:52 PM
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KWood_TSU
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Ok I’ll bite. Let’s see your science that backs your claim up that ducks are dry feeding at night all across the world.
I never said 5:30 in the morning. I promise you I’ve hunted way more than you ever will in the panhandle, still do. I have seen ducks 100’s of times come about about 20-30 minutes before LST, grab a quick bite to eat because they don’t need a ton when it’s 40 degrees as a low, and head back to water about 10 minutes later. That is what I think you’re seeing. Until you drive into a field at 5:30 in the morning and see them get up in your head lights I will never believe you. I’m not saying a duck has never sat in a dry field all night but it damn sure isn’t happening very often. The only way I could ever see it happening is under a full moon. I'm not going do the research for you, do your own. If I do the research you'll be just like a liberal crying that it's fake news. I promise you that you don't hunt where we do, or we'd run into each other. What's funny is we know what we're seeing, and you're trying to tell me your opinion on what we SEE! I do not care if you believe me, but if you want to remain ignorant and close minded, that's up to you. Also, how have you seen ducks do this 100s of times, in the dark... Are you a roost buster?
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Re: Wetland Project
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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03/02/23 02:54 PM
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KWood_TSU
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Bottom line is when you get the project done, it is going to be great and you will kill ducks on it. But there were some saying the feeding at night wasn't happening. On full moon nights on a lease we used to have that had flooded soybeans, we did poorly at first light, but did well midday and early afternoon. bottom line is this in Kansas and this is their third project in 10 years all with in 20 miles of each other. With 10 years worth of harvest history, maybe just maybe they know what they are doing. Hey bobo, you can get off of your knees now.
Amat Victoria Curam - Victory Loves Preparation
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Re: Wetland Project
[Re: KWood_TSU]
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03/02/23 03:05 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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Bottom line is when you get the project done, it is going to be great and you will kill ducks on it. But there were some saying the feeding at night wasn't happening. On full moon nights on a lease we used to have that had flooded soybeans, we did poorly at first light, but did well midday and early afternoon. bottom line is this in Kansas and this is their third project in 10 years all with in 20 miles of each other. With 10 years worth of harvest history, maybe just maybe they know what they are doing. Hey bobo, you can get off of your knees now. lets talk in person,
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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