This place is Worry Central

Especially if they are on top.

On second thought, the fewer the better.

No one family prepared will do well for long when others are starving and desperate, it will take a community or a coming together of families in one spot to guard what you have. Only a few people can't stay vigilant or guard what you have long enough when others want to take it.

Nathan be right, if you want to be safe, you gotta go to place where it is actually hard to make things work. If you are in a prime spot, someones gonna want to take it from you.

Yep. Between the Army & combat Marine Vets, LEO's, avid outdoorsman/hunters/gun enthusiasts in my circle of family and friends - we'd be a tuff nut to crack teamed up together in a SHTF survival situation in a rural setting. There is a reason some of us buy multiple AR's, cases of drum mags, cases of 30 rd mags, cases of ammo and all sorts of other equipment. They might eventually take us with enough people, but we'll be taking a whole lot of them with us first.

This is how you have a chance to survive, by banding together. Small family units with food stocks won’t have much chance.

Agreed.

SHTF thread has 9 pages, and WWYD lottery win only has 5... is it because SHTF odds are greater than WWYD lottery win, or what

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I’m coming to your house Spencer!

Need a tall pair of rubber boots before wading off into this thread.

My place has been called a compound before lol.

"What NOT to do in a Global Collapse"

Waders

Hard hat diving gear no doubt. Rabbit Starvation.

Whole lot of friends have said they're coming to my place. They've all been told to make sure I can clearly see them at the gates (250Y) first.

I can believe that. The ones to worry about don’t come through the gates. They enter at night in multiple groups, through different overland routes. Or maybe they set up multiple snipers outside of the perimeter just watching until the right moment.

Someone said it best on The Ticket a few years ago. Doomsday preppers spend all their time and money stocking food & supplies, buying guns & ammo, training, preparing for apocalypse…..all just to live a couple weeks longer than everyone else.

Live your life and when you croak you’re either in or out at the pearly gates. Its really that simple.

There really are people who are well prepared to be reasonably self sufficient because they have been hard at it for years. Because of my work, I see surprisingly clever compounds that were designed and built by very serious groups of smart people. Not everything is what it appears to be!

Having a wide variety of people with a wide variety of overlapping skill sets is a common theme.

Moral here is to row you’re own boat.

Some will be up S creek, without a paddle

Paddle or not, I’ll take their boat if I have too

I just hope we are underestimating our government, post mid-term elections. If that's the case when the highly over levered banks go bust, and we wake up on Monday morning to banks being closed, like what happened in Greece, that we will have the banks open in a day or so.

I believe there are some at the top that know this will happen. It's just simple math. Also, whether anyone knows this or not, there won't be a bank bail out like 2008. FDIC is nothing more than a warm fuzzy feeling. Their funding amounts to a teacup of water for a building fire. The legislation is in place. I think it is through Dodd Frank legislation. There will be bank bail ins. You wake up the next morning with X percentage less in your account. Don't believe me? Open an account tomorrow and read the docs. As a depositor your are an unsecured creditor to the bank.

If you run a business or simply want to sit on cash and don't want the bank risks open a Treasury Direct account and use 30-Day T-Bills. I've had one for years. The funds don't earn zip. I consider the inflation on those very low earning funds as my cost to be ready to pounce on a deal.

Hopefully this is a worsts case scenario, and way better than the dooms day BS above.

I understand what you are saying but you get 2-3 hours out side major metropolitan area that’s 100-210 miles. knowing where to go and getting there are some rather large tasks. Good luck finding maps.

I’d fear lack of fire suppression way more then humans.

I get their are a few on here that are all ready for their last meal. They Have lived his life, and feel their best days are past, as they raised their families and now their families have families.

I’m not overly worried about the lose of power, media, AI, algorithms etc. Humans will resort back to the strength of community in hard times. It’s human nature. Every civilization does the same. We can visit the harshest most desolate places in the world and that still rings true.

You are telling be that there are tribes in Afghanistan that have with stood taliban for decades but we couldnt save ourselves?

You and Buzz can save yourself a bullet for your last meal. I’ll die old watching my family flourish