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What type of snakes?
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07/21/22 06:00 PM
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Stealthjr
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Two different snakes…both dead. Was fishing and these two got way too close (different times) and at my pond i cant have venomous snakes cruising by my dock with people fishing! Sorry not the best pic of the one in the water. It swam by with entire body on top of water…which made me think venomous. I need to learn more way to identify quicker…which i why im asking THF! Thanks!
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Re: What type of snakes?
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07/21/22 06:03 PM
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Water snakes are not venomous FYI (#1 picture - #2 appears to also be one)
Floating vs not floating is NOT an indicator if they're venomous or non-venomous - it's an old wive's tale.
Last edited by Cochise; 07/21/22 06:06 PM.
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Re: What type of snakes?
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07/21/22 06:04 PM
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1st one is harmless watersnake. 2nd one can't tell by the pic alone.
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Re: What type of snakes?
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07/21/22 06:15 PM
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Cottonmouths are thick bodied with a short, stubby tail. Their stomachs are checkered and not plain like the second photo.
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Re: What type of snakes?
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07/21/22 06:16 PM
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Re: What type of snakes?
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07/21/22 06:38 PM
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Cottonmouths are thick bodied with a short, stubby tail. Their stomachs are checkered and not plain like the second photo. Another good identifier is that Cottonmouths don’t have vertical lines/bars on their jaws. If you can see the head they will be very visible on watersnakes.
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Re: What type of snakes?
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07/21/22 06:41 PM
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Good kill. Those will eat your fish. Fish are their primary diet.
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Re: What type of snakes?
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07/21/22 06:53 PM
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1st one is harmless watersnake. Harmless until it bites you.
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Re: What type of snakes?
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07/21/22 06:55 PM
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To answer your question, diamond back water snake.
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Re: What type of snakes?
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07/21/22 07:02 PM
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Both are the best kind. Dead!
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Re: What type of snakes?
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07/21/22 07:22 PM
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To answer your question, diamond back water snake. This
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Re: What type of snakes?
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07/21/22 07:57 PM
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Good kill. Those will eat your fish. Fish are their primary diet. And your frogs too.
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Re: What type of snakes?
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07/21/22 08:11 PM
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Ok thanks guys…loved some of those answers!!!!
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Re: What type of snakes?
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07/21/22 08:25 PM
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Be careful, they have a long tongue and may try to lick ya.
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Re: What type of snakes?
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07/21/22 09:19 PM
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If all else fails, turn the snake over and look at his blowhole. If there's a single row of scales below, the snake if venomous. A double row is non-venomous.
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Re: What type of snakes?
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07/21/22 09:21 PM
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If all else fails, turn the snake over and look at his blowhole. If there's a single row of scales below, the snake if venomous. A double row is non-venomous. You want to kill it first before you try to turn it over.
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Re: What type of snakes?
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07/21/22 11:55 PM
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If all else fails, turn the snake over and look at his blowhole. If there's a single row of scales below, the snake if venomous. A double row is non-venomous. Correct, though this holds true only for the rows immediately after the Anal Vent/Plate. It is possible to have double scales near the end of the tail....but as you say, single scales are a reliable diagnostic tool for our indigenous Pit Vipers (Rattlesnakes, Copperheads and Cottonmouth). Coral snake has double rows but is easily identified by its color. Example, copperhead....single scales.
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Re: What type of snakes?
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07/22/22 01:20 AM
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If all else fails, turn the snake over and look at his blowhole. If there's a single row of scales below, the snake if venomous. A double row is non-venomous. You want to kill it first before you try to turn it over. Seems like good advice right there! hehe
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Re: What type of snakes?
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07/22/22 01:42 AM
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NORML as can be
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Re: What type of snakes?
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07/22/22 02:44 AM
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I thought this was going to be about politicians.
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Re: What type of snakes?
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07/22/22 05:37 AM
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I thought this was going to be about politicians. That is an insult to snakes, they don't deserve that.
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Re: What type of snakes?
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07/22/22 06:29 AM
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Waiting on SnakeWrangler To answer your question, diamond back water snake. Flintnapper had already nailed it....
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