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What If Scenario #8614121 06/07/22 12:41 AM
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You are sent to an active shooter type call of a man actively shooting people in a building. This shooting has been going on for 5 minutes while you travel. When you get there, you enter the building and see a lot of gun shot people yelling and screaming with blood everywhere and let’s say there are 6 lying on the first hallway you just entered. This hallway will be 50 yards long. You see the gun man duck into the last room on the right and shut the solid core door and lock it and heard him put slide a desk behind it. If you pass this door there is another hallway to the right 40;yards long with 6 more shot people lying on the floor still squirming and yelling. You have the bad guy cornered in a locked room. He is firing through the door and walls toward the hall you entered with a rifle. The windows have been covered and the glass is tempered with a new break resistant technology. There are hostages on the inside and the bad guy said he will shoot them if you enter.

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You have a pistol, a baton, a handheld radio, cell phone, and a soft pistol resistant vest, equipment found in an office

People- you have 7 men total to help

What is your plan and how do you defeat the bad guy and how long would it take you?


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Very good question to make someone think. And then you only have seconds to think.

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Breech the door as quickly as possible, hostages will most likely die during the breech( because evil sob said so), stack up single file(some good guys will most likely die as well) kill the evil sob.

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Does anyone know how the perp got in the classroom?


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Are you sure there is only one shooter?


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If he shut the door, how do you see he pushed a desk up to it?


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Originally Posted by Jimbo1
If he shut the door, how do you see he pushed a desk up to it?



You heard it, and he told you he did when asked

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Originally Posted by Superduty
Are you sure there is only one shooter?

For the scenario above yes

Originally Posted by bigbob_ftw
Does anyone know how the perp got in the classroom?


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Drop ceiling?


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To be completely honest, I do not have the training on how to reply.


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Originally Posted by Brother in-law
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If he shut the door, how do you see he pushed a desk up to it?



You heard it, and he told you he did when asked

Since you're on speaking terms...just ask him real nicely to come out.


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Originally Posted by Brother in-law
Originally Posted by Superduty
Are you sure there is only one shooter?

For the scenario above yes

Originally Posted by bigbob_ftw
Does anyone know how the perp got in the classroom?


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Its been said that the doors were locked prior to entry. I realize that the info is all over the map, but to me its a huge question.


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Originally Posted by Jimbo1
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If he shut the door, how do you see he pushed a desk up to it?



You heard it, and he told you he did when asked

Since you're on speaking terms...just ask him real nicely to come out.

Me either.



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Originally Posted by bigbob_ftw
Originally Posted by Brother in-law
Originally Posted by Superduty
Are you sure there is only one shooter?

For the scenario above yes

Originally Posted by bigbob_ftw
Does anyone know how the perp got in the classroom?


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Its been said that the doors were locked prior to entry. I realize that the info is all over the map, but to me its a huge question.


Don’t know what your talking about. I’m seeking advice on the given above

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Originally Posted by fishmorethanhunt
Breech the door as quickly as possible, hostages will most likely die during the breech( because evil sob said so), stack up single file(some good guys will most likely die as well) kill the evil sob.

How do you breech the door?


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Aluminum/sheet metal framed walls with sheet rock?


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I would first get all the gunshot victims out of the way and medical attention. Since he is not shooting the hostages then I would wait for instructions from the HMFIC and get prepared to breech the door.


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Whatever it takes to get to them kids

Example, id ram a squad car into the exterior wall, steal a dozer, backhoe, drop whatever flash bangs I had on the hinges of said door, call the FD for any advice

Whatever it took, but id be able to stand in front of cameras once its over and be able to say I gave it my all

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Originally Posted by procraft05
Whatever it takes to get to them kids

Example, id ram a squad car into the exterior wall, steal a dozer, backhoe, drop whatever flash bangs I had on the hinges of said door, call the FD for any advice

Whatever it took, but id be able to stand in front of cameras once its over and be able to say I gave it my all



No one said kids.


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Does the building have a false ceiling? By that I mean can you access the room through the ceiling and maybe get a shot on this guy? The scenario is a Shat Sandwich and you lose if you beach and he kills folks, on the other hand if you wait, negotiate and he kills folks, you also lose.



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Originally Posted by Superduty
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Whatever it takes to get to them kids

Example, id ram a squad car into the exterior wall, steal a dozer, backhoe, drop whatever flash bangs I had on the hinges of said door, call the FD for any advice

Whatever it took, but id be able to stand in front of cameras once its over and be able to say I gave it my all



No one said kids.


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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
Aluminum/sheet metal framed walls with sheet rock?


For this scenario we will go metal stud framing with a candy coated sheet rock over it.. The bad guys bullets are sometimes penetrating the walls to the hallway you’re in

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