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What If Scenario
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06/07/22 12:41 AM
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Brother in-law
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You are sent to an active shooter type call of a man actively shooting people in a building. This shooting has been going on for 5 minutes while you travel. When you get there, you enter the building and see a lot of gun shot people yelling and screaming with blood everywhere and let’s say there are 6 lying on the first hallway you just entered. This hallway will be 50 yards long. You see the gun man duck into the last room on the right and shut the solid core door and lock it and heard him put slide a desk behind it. If you pass this door there is another hallway to the right 40;yards long with 6 more shot people lying on the floor still squirming and yelling. You have the bad guy cornered in a locked room. He is firing through the door and walls toward the hall you entered with a rifle. The windows have been covered and the glass is tempered with a new break resistant technology. There are hostages on the inside and the bad guy said he will shoot them if you enter.
Tools: You have a pistol, a baton, a handheld radio, cell phone, and a soft pistol resistant vest, equipment found in an office
People- you have 7 men total to help
What is your plan and how do you defeat the bad guy and how long would it take you?
Last edited by Brother in-law; 06/07/22 01:26 AM.
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Re: What If Scenario
[Re: Brother in-law]
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06/07/22 12:49 AM
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Very good question to make someone think. And then you only have seconds to think.
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Re: What If Scenario
[Re: Brother in-law]
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06/07/22 01:15 AM
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fishmorethanhunt
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Breech the door as quickly as possible, hostages will most likely die during the breech( because evil sob said so), stack up single file(some good guys will most likely die as well) kill the evil sob.
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Re: What If Scenario
[Re: Brother in-law]
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06/07/22 01:20 AM
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Does anyone know how the perp got in the classroom?
Ultra MAGA '24.
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Re: What If Scenario
[Re: Brother in-law]
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06/07/22 01:21 AM
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Are you sure there is only one shooter?
'It's Only Treason if You Lose."
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Re: What If Scenario
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06/07/22 01:21 AM
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If he shut the door, how do you see he pushed a desk up to it?
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Re: What If Scenario
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06/07/22 01:25 AM
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If he shut the door, how do you see he pushed a desk up to it? You heard it, and he told you he did when asked
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Re: What If Scenario
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06/07/22 01:29 AM
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Are you sure there is only one shooter? For the scenario above yes Does anyone know how the perp got in the classroom? Legs
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Re: What If Scenario
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06/07/22 01:29 AM
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Inform the local Game Warden.
To be determined
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Re: What If Scenario
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06/07/22 01:29 AM
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Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.
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Re: What If Scenario
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06/07/22 01:30 AM
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NORML as can be
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Re: What If Scenario
[Re: Brother in-law]
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06/07/22 01:32 AM
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To be completely honest, I do not have the training on how to reply.
'It's Only Treason if You Lose."
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Re: What If Scenario
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06/07/22 01:32 AM
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If he shut the door, how do you see he pushed a desk up to it? You heard it, and he told you he did when asked Since you're on speaking terms...just ask him real nicely to come out.
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Re: What If Scenario
[Re: Brother in-law]
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06/07/22 01:35 AM
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Are you sure there is only one shooter? For the scenario above yes Does anyone know how the perp got in the classroom? Legs Its been said that the doors were locked prior to entry. I realize that the info is all over the map, but to me its a huge question.
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Re: What If Scenario
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06/07/22 01:38 AM
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If he shut the door, how do you see he pushed a desk up to it? You heard it, and he told you he did when asked Since you're on speaking terms...just ask him real nicely to come out. Me either.
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Re: What If Scenario
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06/07/22 01:43 AM
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Brother in-law
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Are you sure there is only one shooter? For the scenario above yes Does anyone know how the perp got in the classroom? Legs Its been said that the doors were locked prior to entry. I realize that the info is all over the map, but to me its a huge question. Don’t know what your talking about. I’m seeking advice on the given above
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Re: What If Scenario
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06/07/22 01:44 AM
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Breech the door as quickly as possible, hostages will most likely die during the breech( because evil sob said so), stack up single file(some good guys will most likely die as well) kill the evil sob. How do you breech the door?
An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
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Re: What If Scenario
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06/07/22 01:57 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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Aluminum/sheet metal framed walls with sheet rock?
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Re: What If Scenario
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06/07/22 02:00 AM
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I would first get all the gunshot victims out of the way and medical attention. Since he is not shooting the hostages then I would wait for instructions from the HMFIC and get prepared to breech the door.
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Re: What If Scenario
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06/07/22 02:04 AM
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Whatever it takes to get to them kids
Example, id ram a squad car into the exterior wall, steal a dozer, backhoe, drop whatever flash bangs I had on the hinges of said door, call the FD for any advice
Whatever it took, but id be able to stand in front of cameras once its over and be able to say I gave it my all
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Re: What If Scenario
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06/07/22 02:06 AM
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Whatever it takes to get to them kids
Example, id ram a squad car into the exterior wall, steal a dozer, backhoe, drop whatever flash bangs I had on the hinges of said door, call the FD for any advice
Whatever it took, but id be able to stand in front of cameras once its over and be able to say I gave it my all
No one said kids.
'It's Only Treason if You Lose."
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Re: What If Scenario
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06/07/22 02:06 AM
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Does the building have a false ceiling? By that I mean can you access the room through the ceiling and maybe get a shot on this guy? The scenario is a Shat Sandwich and you lose if you beach and he kills folks, on the other hand if you wait, negotiate and he kills folks, you also lose.
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Re: What If Scenario
[Re: Brother in-law]
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06/07/22 02:09 AM
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If sending men to slaughter, id send men to slaughter
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Re: What If Scenario
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06/07/22 02:10 AM
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Whatever it takes to get to them kids
Example, id ram a squad car into the exterior wall, steal a dozer, backhoe, drop whatever flash bangs I had on the hinges of said door, call the FD for any advice
Whatever it took, but id be able to stand in front of cameras once its over and be able to say I gave it my all
No one said kids. It was understood
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Re: What If Scenario
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06/07/22 02:15 AM
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Aluminum/sheet metal framed walls with sheet rock? For this scenario we will go metal stud framing with a candy coated sheet rock over it.. The bad guys bullets are sometimes penetrating the walls to the hallway you’re in
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