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 2nd Split Decoy Strategy
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12/18/21 07:41 PM
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Matagorda Mud Pig
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Any changes for you from first split? How many decoys do you run?
Still running spinning wings?
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Re: 2nd Split Decoy Strategy
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12/19/21 12:43 AM
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Never run wings, hunt cross winds 100% day, sun vs cloudy days regardless of wind if you can, more motion, pair up species to match scout, cut spread down significantly in numbers especially in stale birds
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Re: 2nd Split Decoy Strategy
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12/20/21 04:53 PM
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wal1809
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My strategy is flawless. Wait for the birds to get here.
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Re: 2nd Split Decoy Strategy
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12/20/21 05:32 PM
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Birds will probably get here Feb 1.
No matter how high a duck flies a hammer still breaks a window.
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Re: 2nd Split Decoy Strategy
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12/20/21 09:05 PM
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Never run wings, hunt cross winds 100% day, sun vs cloudy days regardless of wind if you can, more motion, pair up species to match scout, cut spread down significantly in numbers especially in stale birds You hunt sunny days over cloudy? If so why is that?
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Re: 2nd Split Decoy Strategy
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12/20/21 10:46 PM
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rickym
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Smaller decoy groups, cross wind, sun at your left shoulder if possible.
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Re: 2nd Split Decoy Strategy
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12/21/21 02:07 AM
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Never hunt the day after a full moon. Those days have ALWAYS sucked for me. Other than that, GO FOR IT, bring what you got and cross your fingers. After All, there is a reason we call someone Bird Brain! Its a Drake Pintail => 
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Re: 2nd Split Decoy Strategy
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12/21/21 03:12 PM
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Never run wings, hunt cross winds 100% day, sun vs cloudy days regardless of wind if you can, more motion, pair up species to match scout, cut spread down significantly in numbers especially in stale birds You hunt sunny days over cloudy? If so why is that? Birds cannot see you as good on sunshine days, other than that its all the same. Strategy? Load up all your chit and head to Kansas
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Re: 2nd Split Decoy Strategy
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12/21/21 03:26 PM
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Never run wings, hunt cross winds 100% day, sun vs cloudy days regardless of wind if you can, more motion, pair up species to match scout, cut spread down significantly in numbers especially in stale birds You hunt sunny days over cloudy? If so why is that? Sun cast shadows. Makes you harder to see from the sky. On cloudy days they can see you better because theres no shadow (breakup). Ive killed them in both. But will atest, they can pin point movement better on cloudy days.
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Re: 2nd Split Decoy Strategy
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12/21/21 03:48 PM
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Never run wings, hunt cross winds 100% day, sun vs cloudy days regardless of wind if you can, more motion, pair up species to match scout, cut spread down significantly in numbers especially in stale birds You hunt sunny days over cloudy? If so why is that? Sun cast shadows. Makes you harder to see from the sky. On cloudy days they can see you better because theres no shadow (breakup). Ive killed them in both. But will atest, they can pin point movement better on cloudy days. So interesting, I'd always thought the complete opposite. If you cast a shadow not only do you move but shadow does too. Also the sun will reflect more off your face or anything else with a glare. Now, I do know when the sun is at your back along with wind that's better b/c ideally they'd come in looking right into the sun and wouldn't be able to see as well. I dunno. Probably why I get skunked more than I do success, but I'll still give it a go!
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Re: 2nd Split Decoy Strategy
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12/21/21 04:34 PM
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Sun will rarely be at your back unless you have a S/SE wind. And youre set up to hunt that way. On most North wind days, sun will be in your face from the SE. Only bad thing is when your wearing sunglasses and you tilt your head down to call and your glasses fog up! Happened to me Sunday and it sucks! 
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Re: 2nd Split Decoy Strategy
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12/21/21 07:27 PM
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Don’t cut corners on cover and concealment late season. Put the sun at your back if you can, even if it means cross winding the birds. The part of texas I hunt there are usually more birds around the later in the season it gets. When that is the case I go to a big set. If I’m hunting slick water in a slack wind I like a jerk string in late season. Leave the guys at home that don’t hide well and can’t sit still and keep their head down. Stay off the call and don’t turn the birds till they are lined up so they can get in on the first pass. Call less. Once the ducks are hooked up on the decoys, let the dekes do most of the work.
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Re: 2nd Split Decoy Strategy
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12/22/21 03:08 PM
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Never run wings, hunt cross winds 100% day, sun vs cloudy days regardless of wind if you can, more motion, pair up species to match scout, cut spread down significantly in numbers especially in stale birds You hunt sunny days over cloudy? If so why is that? Decoys look a lot better- if you have a day like 12-19, 29 degrees and small front, fresh birds doesn’t matter as much. If I can only hunt 1 day, I will choose sun over wind 100% of the time. Higher probability of success. The most important variable is have ducks, and your hide.
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12/22/21 03:09 PM
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Don’t cut corners on cover and concealment late season. Put the sun at your back if you can, even if it means cross winding the birds. The part of texas I hunt there are usually more birds around the later in the season it gets. When that is the case I go to a big set. If I’m hunting slick water in a slack wind I like a jerk string in late season. Leave the guys at home that don’t hide well and can’t sit still and keep their head down. Stay off the call and don’t turn the birds till they are lined up so they can get in on the first pass. Call less. Once the ducks are hooked up on the decoys, let the dekes do most of the work.
Take a kid Huntin
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Re: 2nd Split Decoy Strategy
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12/22/21 03:21 PM
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wal1809
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I have always liked hunting the blue bird days better than overcast foggy ect. I can't say why, because I don't know why. I can guess but thats all it would be is a guess.
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Re: 2nd Split Decoy Strategy
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12/22/21 03:56 PM
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Always set up with back facing East, period
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Re: 2nd Split Decoy Strategy
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12/22/21 04:53 PM
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Matagorda Mud Pig
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Always set up with back facing East, period I was on a duck club that had a number of blinds facing east. I figured it had to be an inside joke of the older members or someone let a new hunter pick the blind locations. Either way, no excuse to ever hunt a morning facing East.
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Re: 2nd Split Decoy Strategy
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12/22/21 07:21 PM
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"So interesting, I'd always thought the complete opposite. If you cast a shadow not only do you move but shadow does too. Also the sun will reflect more off your face or anything else with a glare."
The idea is when its sunny there are shadows from the cover.....which is where you should be, in the shadows. No shadow casting, no glare from your face.
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Re: 2nd Split Decoy Strategy
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12/22/21 10:59 PM
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Depends on where you are hunting..
I don't really change much anymore.
1-2 dozen tops, 1-2 pulsators
And a few years ago I quit setting up to have them finish right in front...
I always try for a cross wind and put my spread to the left or right. Even if I have a straight away wind I'm probably putting decoys to the left or right.
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Re: 2nd Split Decoy Strategy
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12/23/21 04:58 AM
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I have some spots that I have to set up Southeast because the land directly behind is private. It's tough as birds get a good view of my blind. I don't hunt those much after the split. I will say, facing north with a south wind at my back and trees behind me has produced well. Most birds don't circle except maybe the pintails. But you've got to be ready because many times they're landed in the dekes before you know it.
No matter how high a duck flies a hammer still breaks a window.
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Re: 2nd Split Decoy Strategy
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12/23/21 09:39 PM
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I hunt mornings facing East or close to it plenty, all depends cloud cover, wind direction, and natural cover.
If the ducks want to be where you are and you are hidden there isn't much else to it. Scouting is the hunting part for me.
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