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And still another way to do it #8461932 11/29/21 06:41 PM
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First you throw an old Simmons ATEC on your new crapper Ruger rifle

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Then you throw together a load of Hornady bullets you got laying around, and a little bit of 3031 powder because that's what you could find. There will be no node chasing or ladder test, because getting powder is a pain in the [censored]

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Then you finish up by taking seven total shots sighting in, using the hood of your truck with a rolled up flannel for a bag, with a strong two shot under the thumb group to finish it up. Should be plenty good enough to go hunting when I get a chance in a couple of weeks. I bet the deer don't even notice that I didn't ladder test...


Load data for those interested: 150 grain Hornady interlock with 41 grains of 3031 powder, Winchester primers and I don't even remember what kind of brass but it's the same head stamp. I decided on that because I thought I would like the outcome and I do. I'm by no means saying that is the optimum load, but I reckon it'll be fine

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The only part I can’t believe is the Simmons scope. Come on, let’s not tempt fate. At least upgrade to a Barska.





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This can't be possible! A $49.99 scope, no chamber measurements, no OGIVE measurements, no head space measurements, no trigger pull gauge involved, no scope to rifle leveling, no pound torque gauge involved and components just laying around on the bench.
Don't tell the deer Thell be pissed to know they were shot dead with this kinda foolery.

Just kidding, have fun!

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Originally Posted by scottfromdallas
The only part I can’t believe is the Simmons scope. Come on, let’s not tempt fate. At least upgrade to a Barska.


It's an old Simmons, made in the Philippines. The glass is surprisingly good and it hasn't fogged yet. I'm not saying you're going to shoot a square with it, just hoping it holds zero which it has so far

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Originally Posted by angus1956
This can't be possible! A $49.99 scope, no chamber measurements, no OGIVE measurements, no head space measurements, no trigger pull gauge involved, no scope to rifle leveling, no pound torque gauge involved and components just laying around on the bench.
Don't tell the deer Thell be pissed to know they were shot dead with this kinda foolery.

Just kidding, have fun!

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Dang it, I did torque and level the scope LOL

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The only part I can’t believe is the Simmons scope. Come on, let’s not tempt fate. At least upgrade to a Barska.


It's an old Simmons, made in the Philippines. The glass is surprisingly good and it hasn't fogged yet. I'm not saying you're going to shoot a square with it, just hoping it holds zero which it has so far



I’m not saying it’s a great scope but it may be the best scope Simmons ever made.

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Need a pic of that chevy/GM your sitting in. The upholstery and cup holder bring back some fond memories for me!

I put together the money to buy my start in reloading at 12 or 13 years old. First several guns I loaded for were all nosler bullets, I would pick the accuracy load their data listed and run with it. They all shot better than factory ammo did for me. I put a lot more effort into making better ammo now, but in reality 100% of my hunting is doable with something similar.


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The only part I can’t believe is the Simmons scope. Come on, let’s not tempt fate. At least upgrade to a Barska.


It's an old Simmons, made in the Philippines. The glass is surprisingly good and it hasn't fogged yet. I'm not saying you're going to shoot a square with it, just hoping it holds zero which it has so far



I’m not saying it’s a great scope but it may be the best scope Simmons ever made.



Growing up, Simmons was all we used cuz we were poor. Never knew any better and shot lots of deer!

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Originally Posted by scottfromdallas
The only part I can’t believe is the Simmons scope. Come on, let’s not tempt fate. At least upgrade to a Barska.

I have an old Simmons 44 mag I think is what they called it on a 223 my brother and I put money together to buy when I was a little kid. I was probably 9-10 years old my brother was a few years older, but after we scraped enough moeny together to buy the rem 700 there was little left for a scope so its where we landed. I will not brag about the scope, but its still on there about 20 years later in leupold rings and bases no less and still shoot just fine.


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Wait...there are other scopes besides Simmons????


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Same here I’ve used a lot of Simmons scopes with no problem

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Need a pic of that chevy/GM your sitting in. The upholstery and cup holder bring back some fond memories for me!

I put together the money to buy my start in reloading at 12 or 13 years old. First several guns I loaded for were all nosler bullets, I would pick the accuracy load their data listed and run with it. They all shot better than factory ammo did for me. I put a lot more effort into making better ammo now, but in reality 100% of my hunting is doable with something similar.


Just imagine a brown extended cab Chevy, 94 model, with a lot of mesquite pinstriping. Every time I think about a new truck I'll look at that pinstriping and go ,"maybe not". About 90% of what I do is on a ranch, so buying a new truck just to tear hell out of it doesn't make sense to me

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All i have to imagine is the brown, mine was a red '94 extended cab. I want it back. Had it for 17 years and 265,000 miles and I have missed it since I sold it.


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All i have to imagine is the brown, mine was a red '94 extended cab. I want it back. Had it for 17 years and 265,000 miles and I have missed it since I sold it.


Nice,I had this one for about 10 years and it's got 313,000 on it now

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That’s awesome! I love a 308 man you can’t beat them lots of excellent loads easy to hit for them!
Honestly it’s about the easiest to tune of all calibers..

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I’m shocked that I opened a can of worms about Simmons. Apologies to their fans.





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I have 2 friends and in our younger days 70's all they used were Simmons & Tasco scopes.
I used to give them stuff about their choices but the darn things worked. I could never go there with their choices.

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Originally Posted by scottfromdallas
I’m shocked that I opened a can of worms about Simmons. Apologies to their fans.



LOL if I would have had a Leopold laying around it would have had Leopold on it. But I thought since I had the Simmons I would give it a try. I've had decent luck with them in the past, probably a higher success rate than vortex roflmao

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How are you gonna be able to know exactly what hair follicle your bullet is gonna hit though?


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How are you gonna be able to know exactly what hair follicle your bullet is gonna hit though?


I just see where it hits and then say, "yep, that is the hair I was aiming at"

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you sure you didnt hit your thumb with a hammer so it would swell up just before you covered those las 2 shots

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I just noticed those seats too they were the most comfortable of the chevy truck seats, used to ride to mexico on those seats sure made the 6 hr drive easier

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Would somebody please mark this thread as ‘Attention Dumbasses……’.


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Originally Posted by P_102
Would somebody please mark this thread as ‘Attention Dumbasses……’.



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Would somebody please mark this thread as ‘Attention Dumbasses……’.



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He seems to be implying that we make it harder than it needs to be.





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