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Lone Star Law is done in Texas
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09/28/21 03:33 AM
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I missed this passing. SECTION 2. Subchapter A, Chapter 411, Government Code, is amended by adding Section 411.02096 to read as follows: Sec. 411.02096. PROHIBITING CONTRACTS WITH REALITY TELEVISION CREWS. (a) Any law enforcement department that employs peace officers may not authorize a television crew to film peace officers while acting in the line of duty for the purpose of creating a reality television show. https://legiscan.com/TX/text/HB54/id/2214987
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Re: Lone Star Law is done in Texas
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09/28/21 03:35 AM
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Re: Lone Star Law is done in Texas
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09/28/21 03:39 AM
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Re: Lone Star Law is done in Texas
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09/28/21 03:58 AM
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" Its origin has tragic roots. Javier Ambler, the new law’s namesake, died of heart failure after being tased and forcibly detained by a Williamson County sheriff’s deputy following a 20-minute chase. The alleged offense was Ambler’s failure to dim his headlights to oncoming traffic. A film crew for Live PD accompanied the deputy and captured the entire ordeal, a condition that bill sponsors cite as the reason for the heightened response leading to Ambler’s death.
Citing a report from the Austin-American Statesman, the Bill Analysis says that Javier Ambler’s Law is necessary because “violent encounters between Williamson County sheriff’s deputies and civilians nearly doubled in the year after Live PD cameras began following deputies.” It warns that “[t]he presence of production crews during police operations blurs the lines of reality and entertainment” and leads to more intense police encounters than would otherwise occur." I'm assuming the violent crime rate also doubled just like it has in major cities across the country too. https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/texas-outlaws-tv-crews-at-the-8076393/
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Re: Lone Star Law is done in Texas
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09/28/21 07:27 AM
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" Its origin has tragic roots. Javier Ambler, the new law’s namesake, died of heart failure after being tased and forcibly detained by a Williamson County sheriff’s deputy following a 20-minute chase. The alleged offense was Ambler’s failure to dim his headlights to oncoming traffic. A film crew for Live PD accompanied the deputy and captured the entire ordeal, a condition that bill sponsors cite as the reason for the heightened response leading to Ambler’s death.
Citing a report from the Austin-American Statesman, the Bill Analysis says that Javier Ambler’s Law is necessary because “violent encounters between Williamson County sheriff’s deputies and civilians nearly doubled in the year after Live PD cameras began following deputies.” It warns that “[t]he presence of production crews during police operations blurs the lines of reality and entertainment” and leads to more intense police encounters than would otherwise occur." I'm assuming the violent crime rate also doubled just like it has in major cities across the country too. https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/texas-outlaws-tv-crews-at-the-8076393/WillCo has had quite the notorious reputation for quite sometime…
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Re: Lone Star Law is done in Texas
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09/28/21 11:00 AM
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Thank God they determined that the guy running from LE then resisting arrest played no part in his death. We certainly don't want that goofy personal responsibility to find it's way into this scenario.
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Re: Lone Star Law is done in Texas
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09/28/21 11:43 AM
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Damn shame.I enjoyed those shows.
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Re: Lone Star Law is done in Texas
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09/28/21 12:27 PM
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" Its origin has tragic roots. Javier Ambler, the new law’s namesake, died of heart failure after being tased and forcibly detained by a Williamson County sheriff’s deputy following a 20-minute chase. The alleged offense was Ambler’s failure to dim his headlights to oncoming traffic. A film crew for Live PD accompanied the deputy and captured the entire ordeal, a condition that bill sponsors cite as the reason for the heightened response leading to Ambler’s death.
Citing a report from the Austin-American Statesman, the Bill Analysis says that Javier Ambler’s Law is necessary because “violent encounters between Williamson County sheriff’s deputies and civilians nearly doubled in the year after Live PD cameras began following deputies.” It warns that “[t]he presence of production crews during police operations blurs the lines of reality and entertainment” and leads to more intense police encounters than would otherwise occur." I'm assuming the violent crime rate also doubled just like it has in major cities across the country too. https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/texas-outlaws-tv-crews-at-the-8076393/Tragic loss of life but at the end of the day I don't care what you are being stopped for....pull the hell over. 20 minute chase tells me there was probably more to the story than failure to dim headlights! Couple of friends are GWs and they both told me they were asked about being on the show and they quickly declined. Said they didn't need the headaches of all the BS of a camera guy following them around. They are both go getters so I honestly don't think they wanted someone slowing them down from what they do.
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Re: Lone Star Law is done in Texas
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09/28/21 12:32 PM
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That show had gotten pretty boring in the last couple of years.
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Re: Lone Star Law is done in Texas
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09/28/21 12:49 PM
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Re: Lone Star Law is done in Texas
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09/28/21 01:04 PM
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Haven't had it in years but never spit any out. I am a sucker for happy endings and strapped cowboys.
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Re: Lone Star Law is done in Texas
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09/28/21 01:07 PM
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i enjoyed most of them but too many re runs. it has gotten old and needs to go.
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Re: Lone Star Law is done in Texas
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09/28/21 01:57 PM
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[quote=ILUVBIGBUCKS
Tragic loss of life but at the end of the day I don't care what you are being stopped for....pull the hell over. 20 minute chase tells me there was probably more to the story than failure to dim headlights!
The newspapers and local news on TV not only left out that the guy fled in his car but the fact that when they finally did get him stopped he resisted and would not obey commands. It was a shame he passed away but had he complied with the LEO's he would most likely be alive today.
You can't fix stupid
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Re: Lone Star Law is done in Texas
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09/28/21 02:04 PM
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back in the late 70's a kid got 37 yrs for a (very) small amount of weed
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Re: Lone Star Law is done in Texas
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09/28/21 02:43 PM
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I asked our game wardens a couple of years ago when I was going to see them on the show- one of them looked me straight in the eye and said "never". I think it was the next year they were on.
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Re: Lone Star Law is done in Texas
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09/28/21 04:23 PM
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Re: Lone Star Law is done in Texas
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09/28/21 05:23 PM
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The newspapers and local news on TV not only left out that the guy fled in his car but the fact that when they finally did get him stopped he resisted and would not obey commands. It was a shame he passed away but had he complied with the LEO's he would most likely be alive today.
Imagine that The media not reporting the exact FACTs but instead stoking the fire. Sickening I agree it is a tragedy he passed but for the love of God why can't people see things for what they are?
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Re: Lone Star Law is done in Texas
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09/28/21 09:04 PM
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[quote=ILUVBIGBUCKS
Tragic loss of life but at the end of the day I don't care what you are being stopped for....pull the hell over. 20 minute chase tells me there was probably more to the story than failure to dim headlights!
The newspapers and local news on TV not only left out that the guy fled in his car but the fact that when they finally did get him stopped he resisted and would not obey commands. It was a shame he passed away but had he complied with the LEO's he would most likely be alive today.
TLK hit the nail on the head. A lot of these tragedies could have been avoided if the perps would just follow directions. It’s that simple.
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Re: Lone Star Law is done in Texas
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09/28/21 09:32 PM
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TLK hit the nail on the head. A lot of these tragedies could have been avoided if the perps would just follow directions. It’s that simple. It's not that simple. It boils down to a lack of shared information, like previously pointed out. The media cherry picks facts and twists a few and sells commercials and newspapers. I'm not saying in this case I have facts but as an example of what we don't usually hear I'll put myself in a perps shoes. If a was a felon (possibly on parole) and had dope in the car or some other contraband, I would not "simply follow directions". I'd run like hell to dodge going to the pen. The term they taught us decades ago in school was Yellow Journalism. If the yellow were to turn clear, folks would realize how good we have it and stop whining about what bathroom someone else uses etc, etc. I watched maybe 2-3 episodes of that show. It was like Cops, once you seen one, you seen em all.
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Re: Lone Star Law is done in Texas
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09/28/21 09:37 PM
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I’m the same as Gary, I watched a few then it became redundant
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Re: Lone Star Law is done in Texas
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09/28/21 09:44 PM
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When I killed my MD two years ago, we got checked by two GWs in Cochran Co. I asked, "What, no camera crew?" The response was a resounding "HELL NO!"
Hate to say bye bye to Lone Star Law as I think it was a good PR move.
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Re: Lone Star Law is done in Texas
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09/28/21 10:04 PM
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Good riddance. Game Wardens have been tripping over themselves down here trying to get famous. Actually losing their minds so bad that they'd break through two electric gates and break into my barn and start pilfering through my freezers without even so much as a knock on my door. With absolutely NO probable cause. Most pathetic excuse for a law enforcement agency I've ever seen.
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Re: Lone Star Law is done in Texas
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09/29/21 12:42 AM
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I know I always get tased when I don't dim my headlights....good grief. Its a shame we live in a country when a law enforcement office says "STOP" and the moron doesn't, that anything that happens afterward is the officers fault. You run from the law you deserve whatever you get.
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Re: Lone Star Law is done in Texas
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09/29/21 02:04 AM
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TLK hit the nail on the head. A lot of these tragedies could have been avoided if the perps would just follow directions. It’s that simple. It's not that simple. It boils down to a lack of shared information, like previously pointed out. The media cherry picks facts and twists a few and sells commercials and newspapers. I'm not saying in this case I have facts but as an example of what we don't usually hear I'll put myself in a perps shoes. If a was a felon (possibly on parole) and had dope in the car or some other contraband, I would not "simply follow directions". I'd run like hell to dodge going to the pen. The term they taught us decades ago in school was Yellow Journalism. If the yellow were to turn clear, folks would realize how good we have it and stop whining about what bathroom someone else uses etc, etc. I watched maybe 2-3 episodes of that show. It was like Cops, once you seen one, you seen em all. So in your mind if a "perp" is breaking the law again (on parole) then it is OK to not follow a law officers directions? Man guys like you scare me and should scare everyone else on this forum
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Re: Lone Star Law is done in Texas
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09/29/21 02:24 AM
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I don't see where the state would care what local law enforcement deals with in terms of liability. I could see them mandating a law for state officers (DPS, GW, etc.) to limit liability for the state, possibly, but the state isn't responsible for local law enforcement.
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