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PVC disaster
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03/01/21 10:49 PM
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I’ve been working my way slowly through all the damage from the freeze. The only thing left that isn’t tree trimming is the PVC piping in the barn and barn workshop. And what a disaster it is. The piping isn’t cracked, but shattered is a better word for it. This will take some effort, and patience.
Sure wish I could replace it with PEX, but I don’t know diddly about PEX. That would be more freeze resistant, I think.
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Re: PVC disaster
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03/01/21 11:11 PM
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I just finished my outside PVC. I doubled the shutoff valves. It was difficult to find anything related to PVC in the stores. I looked for pole to turn off the valves without bending over. Guess I was not the only old man working PVC.
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Re: PVC disaster
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03/01/21 11:28 PM
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PEX will be much more expensive, but it will be much less likely to have issues the next time around depending on how low the temp goes. There are plenty of Youtube videos on how to use and connect. Actually it was pretty easy after buying all the fittings needed.
I had never worked with PEX until I needed to add an additional water facet behind the house. I did it all myself running from an existing exterior faucet that I put a splitter on (so I still had water at that location) and ran the PEX down to the ground and followed the foundation around 3 corners then up to where it could be accessed from the deck, where I put in another faucet. If memory serves me, about 90 feet that is all laying on the ground along the foundation, totally exposed. Before the hard freeze, I merely disconnected at the permanent faucet tie in and laid that end down on the ground, opened the faucet at the end to allow the water to drain as much as possible.
What is your concern with converting to PEX other than not familiar working with it?
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Re: PVC disaster
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03/02/21 12:04 AM
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Simply because I am old school, I would go back with PVC with a complete redo of the pipes. Set up a system that is easy to drain and use compressed air to blow out the water.
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Re: PVC disaster
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03/02/21 12:43 AM
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Pex is easy, you just have to buy the right fittings and crimp tool.
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Re: PVC disaster
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03/02/21 01:01 AM
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Since I already have a good portion of the fittings I need, I’m taking dogcatcher’s approach. I’ll redo the pvc and cpvc and add drains at the low spots. My biggest problem with the project is my lack of desire to actually do it. That is counterbalanced by my not wanting to pay the hundreds of dollars it would cost to have the plumber do it all.
In general, I hate plumbing fixes because there is no stinking way I can get everything I need but don’t have in one trip to the hardware store. This will surely be a two-tripper or maybe even a three-tripper.
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Re: PVC disaster
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03/02/21 01:09 AM
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Re: PVC disaster
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03/02/21 01:55 AM
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Great offer, but I have it covered. During the big freeze we fed our neighbor and let him shower when his water was out of service. He’s a very capable guy and would be insulted if I didn’t let him help.
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Re: PVC disaster
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03/02/21 02:08 AM
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Great offer, but I have it covered. During the big freeze we fed our neighbor and let him shower when his water was out of service. He’s a very capable guy and would be insulted if I didn’t let him help. Your lucky day.
Quail hunting is like walking into, and out of a beautiful painting all day long. Gene Hill
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Re: PVC disaster
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03/02/21 02:22 AM
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Simply because I am old school, I would go back with PVC with a complete redo of the pipes. Set up a system that is easy to drain and use compressed air to blow out the water.
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Re: PVC disaster
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03/02/21 02:24 AM
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Great offer, but I have it covered. During the big freeze we fed our neighbor and let him shower when his water was out of service. He’s a very capable guy and would be insulted if I didn’t let him help.
LETS GO BRANDON
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Re: PVC disaster
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03/02/21 08:41 AM
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when you go to put in the low drains be sure to also have one at the highest spot possible, faucet, valve etc. so you can be sure it drains completely then no need to use air to blow it out.
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Re: PVC disaster
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03/02/21 12:30 PM
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when you go to put in the low drains be sure to also have one at the highest spot possible, faucet, valve etc. so you can be sure it drains completely then no need to use air to blow it out.
X2 My water softener was a problem in that area.
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Re: PVC disaster
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03/02/21 04:58 PM
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when you go to put in the low drains be sure to also have one at the highest spot possible, faucet, valve etc. so you can be sure it drains completely then no need to use air to blow it out.
agree
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Re: PVC disaster
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03/02/21 06:05 PM
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Re: PVC disaster
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03/02/21 06:14 PM
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I got all the PVC and CPVC pipe and fittings this morning. And the CPVC glue. Tomorrow the fun begins, along with several trips (probably) to the hardware store.
This afternoon I’ll drive the tractor down to the old guy’s house and clean up his yard - as payment for the Live Oak. That’ll save him some money.
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Re: PVC disaster
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03/02/21 06:38 PM
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The sealant was not to be found in the stores in my area. I borrowed a can from a neighbor. He is first on my list for home grown tomatoes.
Quail hunting is like walking into, and out of a beautiful painting all day long. Gene Hill
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Re: PVC disaster
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03/02/21 08:02 PM
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Let me know when you are ready, if I can I will be there to tell you what you are doing right and wrong and drink your beer while I am critiquing your work. .
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Re: PVC disaster
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03/02/21 08:02 PM
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Turn on all the faucets and leave them open while it's cold. Unless you have a sump where the whole pipe is full of water there won't be any breaks.
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Re: PVC disaster
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03/02/21 09:16 PM
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Turn on all the faucets and leave them open while it's cold. Unless you have a sump where the whole pipe is full of water there won't be any breaks.
Glad you noticed.
Quail hunting is like walking into, and out of a beautiful painting all day long. Gene Hill
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Re: PVC disaster
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03/02/21 09:55 PM
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603 I think your close to Marlin. Plex is great. I plumed a tiny house and the pipes froze once defrosted it did not one leak. If you ever need any help just holler.
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Re: PVC disaster
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03/02/21 11:12 PM
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Thanks espy, but I’m going with what I know this time. Adding low point drains. Probably kidding myself, but I do think I have everything I need - except enthusiasm.
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Re: PVC disaster
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03/02/21 11:13 PM
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Quail hunting is like walking into, and out of a beautiful painting all day long. Gene Hill
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Re: PVC disaster
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03/02/21 11:54 PM
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I had never worked with PEX until I needed to add an additional water facet behind the house. I did it all myself running from an existing exterior faucet that I put a splitter on (so I still had water at that location) and ran the PEX down to the ground and followed the foundation around 3 corners then up to where it could be accessed from the deck, where I put in another faucet. If memory serves me, about 90 feet that is all laying on the ground along the foundation, totally exposed.
Doesn't PEX degrade in sunlight?
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Re: PVC disaster
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03/03/21 08:44 PM
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I had never worked with PEX until I needed to add an additional water facet behind the house. I did it all myself running from an existing exterior faucet that I put a splitter on (so I still had water at that location) and ran the PEX down to the ground and followed the foundation around 3 corners then up to where it could be accessed from the deck, where I put in another faucet. If memory serves me, about 90 feet that is all laying on the ground along the foundation, totally exposed.
Doesn't PEX degrade in sunlight? dunno yet ... it's been out there for 6-7 years now and no issues. the majority of it is along a north facing portion of the foundation with only a couple short stretches on the west side which is pretty shaded in the afternoon.
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