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Re: THF Gardening Thread
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01/12/21 05:12 PM
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How are queens ever born? What makes them different?
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Re: THF Gardening Thread
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01/12/21 05:39 PM
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There is a queen in a small box in the middle of that package. To the bees in that package that is a new queen to them. By the time that package gets to the end user the bees will accept her as the new queen and will not leave her. Sorry, I meant with the Mason Bee larvae, is there a queen in there? Bullfrog https://www.wired.com/2015/09/royal-jelly-isnt-makes-queen-bee-queen-bee/Charlie
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Re: THF Gardening Thread
[Re: Payne]
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01/12/21 05:56 PM
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There is not. They do not live in a colony like honey bees. Each bamboo tube that they use will be their own house that they will lay some eggs in to over winter. Once the eggs hatch in spring they are on their own. Pound for pound mason and other solitary bees are better pollinators than honey bees. And mason bees don't travel very far. Only a few hundred feet to forage. So if you can get them to move into your houses they will hammer down on your garden and flower bed flowers. They are very docile too, they won't bother you one bit.
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Re: THF Gardening Thread
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01/12/21 06:11 PM
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How are queens ever born? What makes them different? The LGBTQ community will tell you that they are just different at birth. I believe that it usually is from some sort of traumatic event or issue with early childhood.
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Re: THF Gardening Thread
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01/12/21 06:44 PM
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Very interesting Charlie! Thanks
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Re: THF Gardening Thread
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01/12/21 07:36 PM
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Thanks Derek, I just assumed the Mason bees were another breed of honeybee and clearly they aren't. Bullfrog, It has been 30 years since I've fooled with them, but honeybee behavior is actually quite interesting to lightly read about. Workers, Drones, Nurses, Queens, etc. They toss the old/slow workers out of the hive, so no f'in around. We had hives in some locations you could work on without your hood/gloves. Other locations were meaner than a wet cat. Charlie
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Re: THF Gardening Thread
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01/12/21 09:47 PM
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Yeah I’ll just have to make sure I have plenty of flowers up and running. I ain’t doing a hive, having a 2yo and being supposedly allergic to them. It’s been 25+ years since I had an allergic reaction to a sting, and I’ve been stung a bunch of times, but I always go in and take some Benedryl.
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Re: THF Gardening Thread
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01/12/21 10:31 PM
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I had been stung 100's times with no reaction whatsoever. Late Spring-time we roll up to some hives to do some work and I watched this bee come right at me and sting me by the temple. No big deal... 10 min later I'm not in anaphylactic shock, but I'm having a significant reaction. That summer I had to take bee venom shots to rebuild my tolerance. Fall harvest time came, I carried an epipen, got stung again, but back to no big deal. Do some reading on these Mason Bees. They are VERY different than honeybees. Keep 'em in the fridge until your ready to deploy, etc. "There are about 140 species of mason bees in North America. All are solitary bees. The males do not have a stinger, and the females will only sting if trapped or squeezed. This makes them an ideal neighbor for the home garden, since they pose little to no threat of stinging." Mason Bee linkCharlie
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Re: THF Gardening Thread
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01/12/21 10:57 PM
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Yeah I’ll just have to make sure I have plenty of flowers up and running. I ain’t doing a hive, having a 2yo and being supposedly allergic to them. It’s been 25+ years since I had an allergic reaction to a sting, and I’ve been stung a bunch of times, but I always go in and take some Benedryl. There is no magic bullet. You just have to find what works for you.
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Re: THF Gardening Thread
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01/13/21 03:29 AM
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A hundred and FORTY! Wow who would have thunk it!
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Re: THF Gardening Thread
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01/13/21 04:33 PM
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We have signs of life!
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Re: THF Gardening Thread
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01/13/21 04:37 PM
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We have signs of life! Miracles still happen.
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Re: THF Gardening Thread
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01/13/21 04:55 PM
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We have signs of life!
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Re: THF Gardening Thread
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When is the gender reveal party?
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Re: THF Gardening Thread
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01/13/21 08:15 PM
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When is the gender reveal party?
I think he should wait for them to grow some and let them decide.
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Re: THF Gardening Thread
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01/13/21 09:42 PM
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When is the gender reveal party?
I think he should wait for them to grow some and let them decide. Good one
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Re: THF Gardening Thread
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01/13/21 11:31 PM
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Derek
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Go time
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Re: THF Gardening Thread
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01/14/21 01:22 AM
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Now we’re just showin’ off! Jk man! That’s freakin awesome. FEEEEEED little ones!!!!
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Re: THF Gardening Thread
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01/14/21 01:26 AM
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I'm about to undertake a 25x20 in ground pumpkin, watermelon and cantaloupe garden and a 50x30 space with raised beds.
All of it will be in drip irrigation.
First garden
I'll try and post pictures as I go.
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Re: THF Gardening Thread
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01/14/21 01:41 AM
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I'm about to undertake a 25x20 in ground pumpkin, watermelon and cantaloupe garden and a 50x30 space with raised beds.
All of it will be in drip irrigation.
First garden
I'll try and post pictures as I go. You can plant all of those seeds a little later in the spring.
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Re: THF Gardening Thread
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01/14/21 02:12 AM
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I'm about to undertake a 25x20 in ground pumpkin, watermelon and cantaloupe garden and a 50x30 space with raised beds.
All of it will be in drip irrigation.
First garden
I'll try and post pictures as I go. This is a situation where I would locate a beekeeper or beekeeper club. Unlike tomatoes, peppers and a few others we have been talking about lately which are wind pollinated. Your crops have to be bee or self pollinated male to female. 20x25 and 30x50 isn't that large but large enough self pollinating would be a PITA. I don't remember the exact numbers, but pumpkins need like 13 bee visits per flower for a full pollination load. That's why bees are brought in. Pure numbers to get per flower visit. Find a beekeeper that will put a hive out 100-200 yards out and you'll bee good. You'll do great this year. Looking forward to pics as you go along.
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Re: THF Gardening Thread
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01/14/21 03:47 AM
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I'm about to undertake a 25x20 in ground pumpkin, watermelon and cantaloupe garden and a 50x30 space with raised beds.
All of it will be in drip irrigation.
First garden
I'll try and post pictures as I go. This is a situation where I would locate a beekeeper or beekeeper club. Unlike tomatoes, peppers and a few others we have been talking about lately which are wind pollinated. Your crops have to be bee or self pollinated male to female. 20x25 and 30x50 isn't that large but large enough self pollinating would be a PITA. I don't remember the exact numbers, but pumpkins need like 13 bee visits per flower for a full pollination load. That's why bees are brought in. Pure numbers to get per flower visit. Find a beekeeper that will put a hive out 100-200 yards out and you'll bee good. You'll do great this year. Looking forward to pics as you go along. Thanks, I didn't know that but I just told my wife and she knew. This is kind of her project I'm just the labor.. Luckily there are 4 hives kept on the property behind me and I am planning to get a hive myself in 2022.
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Re: THF Gardening Thread
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01/14/21 01:10 PM
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How close is the grow light suppose to be from the seeds/plants? I’m about to set mine up.
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Re: THF Gardening Thread
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Derek
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Going to depend on your type of light. If it's a traditional grow light the mfg typically will include recommendations. But like my lights they are not marketed as grow lights. My bulbs are only 20w each. I keep mine 4-6" above the plants. Check your wattage. More wattage the higher above the plant you would place them. If you're running something like a full spectrum 600w grow light system you would want to be 20" or so from the plants.
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Re: THF Gardening Thread
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01/14/21 08:31 PM
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Thanks. Mine are 20 w and marketed as grow lights.
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