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THF Gardening Thread

Posted By: Payne

THF Gardening Thread - 11/27/12 06:41 PM

Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/27/12 07:12 PM

Details?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/27/12 07:14 PM

Wait till spring. Unless you want to hear about the fall garden I've been neglecting.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/27/12 07:16 PM

I just want someone to tell me how to do it step by step so I dont have to do any research grin
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/27/12 07:18 PM

I can do that

First off get a soil test, I use aTm.

http://soiltesting.tamu.edu/

When you get the results back let me know.
Posted By: Play Maker

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/27/12 07:39 PM

I can grow Johnson grass like no other. I don't believe I will ever get rid of it. Johnson grass only appears in the garden...no where else on the place. Suggestions?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/27/12 07:58 PM

Rip the heads off before they seed, get a small spray bottle and put gly in it. Use it to spot spray when it comes back.
Posted By: Friction

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/27/12 08:10 PM

Id say this about covers it.

http://www.texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3439942/1
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/27/12 08:28 PM

Probably the greatest thread in THF history.

Play Maker, you also need to pull all the Johnson grass you see, it may take awhile but unless you keep pulling it will keep coming back.
Posted By: Play Maker

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/28/12 03:59 AM

Payne, what do you have going in the fall garden?
Posted By: aeb

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/28/12 04:06 AM

Originally Posted By: Play Maker
I can grow Johnson grass like no other. I don't believe I will ever get rid of it. Johnson grass only appears in the garden...no where else on the place. Suggestions?


Bale it.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/28/12 02:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Play Maker
Payne, what do you have going in the fall garden?


Broccoli, Brussel Sprouts, Cauliflower, Cabbage, Kohlrabi and a few Tomatoes. Still have Okra, Jalapeno and Cayenne
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/28/12 02:12 PM

Had to google Kohlrabi, dont believe I have ever had this
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/28/12 02:19 PM

That's because you're not as sophisticated as I am...
Posted By: Koenig

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/28/12 02:30 PM

you using a soaker hose under that?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/28/12 03:06 PM

Five with a carburetor also have a homemade sprinkler in the middle. The white pvc in the pic.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/28/12 03:36 PM

http://www.texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2324948/1

Here ya go
Posted By: Play Maker

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/28/12 09:08 PM

I am contemplating hauling in several loads of top soil/manure to elevate the 70' x 75' garden area. As stated earlier, Johnson grass is a burdensome issue. On the other hand, the topsoil might contain unknown seeds within it which may cause other problems. An alternative to bringing in topsoil might be building large boxes, beds, to elevate the garden area.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/28/12 09:26 PM

I use a tarp to cover my garden. It's black but clear is recommended. Put it on after your garden is done in the summer.

It will burn the weed seeds and kill them. You want at least 6 mil thick, you can get it from Lowes or Home depot.

I got so tired of hoeing weeds, I put the garden fabric you see in the first post so I would not have to weed any more. It works my chop hoe is rusting out.

If you go the garden fabric way. Overlap the fabric and throw some much in between the rows so the wind doesn't rip it apart. When you go to plant cut an X in the fabric then push the corners under. When the plants start to grow bring the four "corners" up and they will rest on the stem.

I have a mushroom farm close to me. I'm getting four yards a year to get my garden above the ground. You can buy it for 10 dollars a yard. It is full of nitrogen and when you till it in it smokes. My plants this year were amazing.
Posted By: LoneStarSon

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/29/12 12:05 AM

I've thought about the garden fabric/tarp, but thankfully, there are people around my other house that put out huge bags of leaves each year...I hope they do again this year. grin I put about 40 of those insulation size bags of leaves in between the rows, plus leaves from my own place, to keep out the weeds. Till them in during the winter and they add carbon to the soil which has to be counteracted with a bit of nitrogen.
Posted By: Mud

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/29/12 01:08 AM

Do you ever fertilize with carp?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/29/12 01:33 AM

LSS, that's a goldmine. I have the leaves but I'm surround by pastures so all kinds of seeds fly in, had them growing on bare fabric.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/30/12 03:09 PM




Cayenne



Horseradish



Asparagus



Cauliflower



Broccoli



Kohlrabi



Cabbage

Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/30/12 04:00 PM

Looking good up
Posted By: bhunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/30/12 06:40 PM

Awesome garden there, I got away from that big one and now I only have (4) 4x4 boxes that I deal with, makes it easy to weed, water, and they make awesome green houses in the winter.
Posted By: woodwalker

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/02/12 02:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Play Maker
I can grow Johnson grass like no other. I don't believe I will ever get rid of it. Johnson grass only appears in the garden...no where else on the place. Suggestions?

Turn some hogs in on it. They like the roots and they will break it up for ya.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/03/12 05:20 PM

Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/03/12 07:07 PM

looks great Payne The wifey is a little upset I didn't plant all her different lettuce's this winter!
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/03/12 07:19 PM

As warm as it is staying you could probably still plant lettuce, Damon. Accuweather is still not showing a freeze in the next 15 days. I'm going to get some turnip seeds and more lettuce seeds just to give it a try. My mustard greens, lettuce, swiss chard and collard greens took a hit from aphids, but I put out some Dipel dust and I think they are gonna be ok.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/03/12 07:29 PM

Thanks, had coleslaw for lunch.

How long are you leaving the dispel dust on for?
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/03/12 07:53 PM

My sprinkler system washed most of it off yesterday. It had been on the plants for 4-5 days. I did some looking at the plants and the aphids all appeared to be dead. I will keep a close watch and reapply if needed.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/03/12 08:15 PM

I do the same, I was just wondering.
Posted By: BAR940

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/03/12 09:55 PM

Y'all are aware that there are grocery stores still in existence right?
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/03/12 10:00 PM

True, but I enjoy gardening. A dollar package of various seeds is way cheaper than buying vegetables in the store. Being able to pluck a vine ripe tomato off the vine and eating it fresh is amazing.
Posted By: Play Maker

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/04/12 01:51 AM

Originally Posted By: woodwalker
Originally Posted By: Play Maker
I can grow Johnson grass like no other. I don't believe I will ever get rid of it. Johnson grass only appears in the garden...no where else on the place. Suggestions?

Turn some hogs in on it. They like the roots and they will break it up for ya.

Great idea. I coincidentally picked up some feeder hogs yesterday.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/04/12 02:25 PM

skeeter22's garden pics





Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/04/12 02:26 PM

Thanks, Payne
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/04/12 02:30 PM

You're welcome.

What is in the pics?
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/04/12 02:34 PM

Dang thats a good turnout
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/04/12 02:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
You're welcome.

What is in the pics?


Jalapenos, serranos,cayennes,ghost peppers, green beans, bell peppers and lots of tomatoes. I don't have any pics of the swiss chard, mustard greens, collard greens, okra, purple hull peas and various herbs.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/04/12 02:47 PM

dang, how big is your garden?
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/04/12 02:56 PM

About 40'X20'. It's just a backyard garden.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/05/12 03:37 PM

A couple of girls had a rough morning..


Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/05/12 03:48 PM

Originally Posted By: BAR940
Y'all are aware that there are grocery stores still in existence right?


Why don't you start buying all your meat there? It's a lot cheaper than hunting.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/05/12 04:00 PM

I would never want to figure out how much venison costs per pound.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/11/12 04:51 AM

This is my first run at a garden. Here are a few pics from this spring/summer.








I have replanted for fall/winter crops and will post pics soon.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/11/12 02:43 PM

Nice job phat
Posted By: Play Maker

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/12/12 01:38 AM

Looks good Phat. What kind of potting/planting mix did you use?
Posted By: sig226fan (Rguns.com)

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/12/12 02:02 AM

When we built the house I was trying to start a yard, being an old baseball coach.... I can grow grass...

One day while watering, overseeding, fertilizing, etc, my father in law told me I was doing it all wrong.

He said if you want to grow bermuda grass, plant cotton.
Posted By: sig226fan (Rguns.com)

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/12/12 02:02 AM

Seriously, I am dying to start a greenhouse. I tilled small plots this past weekend, and plowed corn/okra/bean ground again.
Posted By: sig226fan (Rguns.com)

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/12/12 02:03 AM

Originally Posted By: Trek


That's a shoe in for top five ever
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/12/12 02:17 AM

Originally Posted By: Play Maker
Looks good Phat. What kind of potting/planting mix did you use?


I dug out about a foot of the clay dirt and grass, lined the bottom with newspaper and then filled that in with quality top soil. Then I used several bags of mushroom humus, manure, organic compost and plant/vegetable potting mix. In all about 800-900lbs of new dirt and soil. I now have chicken wire around the box to keep out rabbits....they got to my plants late this summer.
Posted By: Tbar

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/12/12 03:43 AM

Drought got mine but here are a few pictures......

Plowing

Ready To Plant

Coming Up

Mellons

Okra

Squash & Cucumber

Squash

Canning


Tbar
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/12/12 02:15 PM

Thats not a garden Tbar thats a farm flehan
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/12/12 05:19 PM





Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/12/12 08:07 PM

Posted By: Scary Poppins

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/12/12 10:26 PM

Well it looks like the freeze killed my 400 or so Ghost peppers before they turned red. Should I just pick them as they are, set them on the counter, and wait for them to ripen? What's my plan here? (leaves are dead, peppers still look decent)
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/12/12 10:30 PM

are they squishy to the touch?
Posted By: Scary Poppins

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/12/12 10:54 PM

I'm not home yet. I wouldn't touch them though without gloves.

Last I checked they were still very firm, and hadn't started to turn red yet
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/12/12 11:07 PM

If they are still firm I'd put them inside and hope for the best.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/13/12 12:21 AM

The few that I had not picked froze. The only things I have left now is lettuce, mustard greens, collard greens and swiss chard.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/13/12 12:49 AM

No fall garden for us this year. I didnt take any 2012 pics, but here is a few from 2011.

Tomatoes


Corn



Cucumbers and Melons


Peppers



A little Morning Harvest
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/13/12 01:15 AM

That's impressive Cobra.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/13/12 04:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
That's impressive Cobra.
Posted By: Tbar

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/13/12 06:20 PM

Payne......do you sterilize the ground to kill the weeds first or just let the black plastic do the job?

I decided I would never replant that field unless I killed all the weeds/grass first.


Tbar
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/13/12 10:30 PM

Trying to kill the weed seeds that are there and to keep more from blowing in the garden. I'll keep the tarp on until the end of February then I'm adding four yards of mushroom compost.
Posted By: quackcommander

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/31/12 10:16 PM

any recommendations on a good place to buy heirloom seeds in DFW? if this has been asked im sorry. im on my cell, small screen makes it hard to read
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/02/13 07:58 PM

http://www.burpee.com/heirloom-seeds-and-plants/
Posted By: bayourat

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/09/13 04:18 PM

Any one got onions in the ground yet. We are gonna start our tomatoes and peppers in the greenhouse on the 14th . I got to get my goats and chickens out of the garden spot, we let them have the garden spot in the winter and they till it and fertilize it for us.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/09/13 04:32 PM

I got tired of planting onions in the garden. I'll put some in some containers. I'll start my seeds at the end of the month and plant mid March. Nice job on using the goats for a dual purpose.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/13 01:30 AM

None started yet here. I usually go for the third week in Janurary or so. Last year I planted Mid-March and did well. Most years there are too many fronts moving that would kill everything but the onions so it is normally April for the planting.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/13 01:35 PM

I'll put my onions in as soon as my garden dries enough to till.
Posted By: Cool Mo D

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/20/13 05:00 PM

I'm not going to plant any this year, when you can buy them for 6-8lbs for a $1, I'll go that route.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/21/13 09:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Cool Mo D
I'm not going to plant any this year, when you can buy them for 6-8lbs for a $1, I'll go that route.


Who does the grocery shopping at your house??
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/21/13 10:05 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: Cool Mo D
I'm not going to plant any this year, when you can buy them for 6-8lbs for a $1, I'll go that route.


Who does the grocery shopping at your house??



I sure wish they were that cheap.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/22/13 08:32 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: Cool Mo D
I'm not going to plant any this year, when you can buy them for 6-8lbs for a $1, I'll go that route.


Who does the grocery shopping at your house??



I sure wish they were that cheap.



Plus, you can't make economic sense out of anything we do on the hunting an fishing forums. I should have add cooking and vegetable gardening to my profile.

I just finished putting the onion sets in the ground. It's a good feeling to get something started. I'll put the potatoes in next and then take a chance on my tomatoes. I don't cover my tomatoes with a threat of frost. I pull them up for a night or two, and then put them back in.
Posted By: Scary Poppins

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/22/13 10:30 PM

I planted my onions a month or so ago, same time as my Grandpa.

His onions are a few feet tall now, and extra thick. Mine are still 6 inches and super thin. frown
Posted By: bayourat

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/23/13 05:39 AM

Originally Posted By: Scary Poppins
I planted my onions a month or so ago, same time as my Grandpa.

His onions are a few feet tall now, and extra thick. Mine are still 6 inches and super thin. frown


Dang had to read that 1st sentence twice, thought your grandad died the day you were planting onions.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/27/13 10:45 PM

Got a row of potatoes in the ground yesterday.
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/13 10:04 PM

We planted 4 kinds of onions, peas and cilantro this past weekend. The asparagus we planted last year is already popping.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/29/13 12:14 AM

Finally got my 30 bunches of onoins in Saturday, half 1015Y's and half White Grannex. Sunday I got my Tomato and Pepper seeds started. Hoping for a good year.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/29/13 02:40 AM

Hey Bill, what kind of taters do you plant?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/30/13 10:41 PM

Originally Posted By: phat694
Hey Bill, what kind of taters do you plant?


I planted red potatoes, and California whites. I tried yukon gold last year and didn't care for them. I barely got my seeds back.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/13 12:21 AM

Same here for the yukon's....reds did well for me last year
Posted By: webstertroy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/13 12:52 AM

When do I start planting? Looking to plant tomatos peppers squash...
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/13 01:20 AM

After the last frost for those.
Posted By: bayourat

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/13 04:49 AM

Buy a farmers Almanac and plant seeds when it says to plant them. Plant on the wrong moon phase and they won't produce worth the water it takes to keep them growing.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/13 06:37 PM



Started some seeds today, I usually plant mid-March.

Started the jalapenos, serranos, bell and banana peppers.

Big red, beefsteak, celebrity, cherry and super sweet 100 tomatoes.

I'll plant okra, squash, cucumbers, carrots, corn and green beans later.

Posted By: J.P. Greeson

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/13 07:32 PM

Got everything in shape for planting the last two weekends. Here's the upper garden with onions planted. Also worked on my cucumber trellis. Will start on the tomato supports this weekend.





Lower garden prepped with onions planted.

Posted By: FFF21

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/13 11:42 PM

Looking good J.P. I will be doing the same this weekend.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/13 01:45 AM

My uncles set up



Posted By: trapperjustin

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/13 12:15 PM

Dang yall get technical with the thermometers
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/13 04:53 PM

I do all kinds of stupid stuff to my garden like mushroom compost.
I think they shorted me today.





That didn't feel like four yards when pulling.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/02/13 11:09 PM











Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/03/13 04:05 AM

Got my 2 year old horse manure ready in my compost. Not hot anymore. Planted lettuce, beans, japs, cilantro, rio grand peps, heirlooms, and much more in my little greenhouse. Should be ready in 4 weeks to transplant.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/06/13 02:24 PM

Started my own growing operation, still need to pick up some more seeds and different variety








Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/06/13 08:59 PM

Nice setup. How big is your garden?
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/06/13 09:38 PM

not huge probably 20x20, might expand if needed

still have plenty more seeds to plant
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/07/13 02:17 PM





Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/13 01:47 AM

I dumped some manure, compost and bone meal in my beds today to fill'er back up, hand tilled it all around....Ill wait a few days for the soil to settle to plant taters and brussell sprouts. I also put some tomato's in buckets.





Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/13 03:03 AM

looks good y'all

transplanted some seedlings & planted some onions today.










Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/13 04:14 AM

Little help here. I have a little portable greenhouse and have about 60 jiffy pots of seeds planted with lettuce, green onions, japs, other peppers, cilantro, beans, tomatoes and other stuff I can't even remember! Question is for the lettuce, they just sprouted after 5 days in the greenhouse. I know I'll need to thin them out in the pots. When can I plant in the garden. And how much should I thin them out. And when should I thin them out?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/13 01:16 PM

I saw that the average last frost for Dallas is March 10th so mid March would be when I planted.

Lettuce needs about a foot of space between each other. So I would measure my garden row and figure out how many I could plant in the area. Then I would thin out the weaker plants to let the stronger ones grow.

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/13 01:56 PM

Lettuce and onions are frost hardy. You can put them in the ground anytime soon. My cilantro grew all through the winter. It can also go in right away.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/13 02:13 PM

Lettuce is semi hardy, which means they will tolerate a light frost. I wouldn't chance it for a extra month of growing.
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/13 04:41 AM

Thanks guys. Not worried about cilantro. Got a good crop already, just wanted more. I think I will try half of lettuce in greenhouse and the other half in the garden starting around mid March.
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/13 11:49 PM

Thinking about building a greenhouse. Nothing fancy, about 8x10. Would like sliding roof vents (manual operated), and hail resistant roof and walls. Any good kits out there, or designs?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/13 12:47 AM

Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/13 01:12 AM

Nice, looks a tad expensive!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/13 01:24 AM

You could build the same thing with roofing panels and 2x4's
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/13 04:39 AM

Thanks Payne, where can I find polycarbonate panels?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/13 12:13 PM

Lowes
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/13 02:13 PM

I become too attached to my plants if I start my own. I get afraid to put them out. I put in 24 tomato plants Saturday. They were $2.50 a six pack. If the frost gets them I'll just go buy 4 more sis packs.

I'll just pull them up and put them inside if I get a strong frost warning. I had the first ripe tomatoes in my subdivision last year.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/13 02:19 PM

One word Bill, Monsanto.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/13 03:18 PM

Got the peppers, tomatoes, and a few more planted



Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/12/13 12:43 AM

BTW Bill, what kind of tomatoes did you plant?

Looks good East
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/12/13 08:09 PM

I was propagating some roses today, here's what I did.

pruned the roses then started out in the green house.



get some clear cups and drill the holes



fill the cups with rose garden soil



stick your index finger in the soil to the 2nd knuckle



cut a stem off about an inch under a node, take some of the leaves off



scar the stem about half an inch or so



dip the stem in some water then in a root growth hormone





firm the soil around the stem and water them in



They should be ready to plant at the end of fall early winter.




Posted By: Metal Man

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/13 01:40 AM

I have been wanting to do this with some red roses and now valentines is here I might steal one from the wife. Have you ever done this with the roses you get from the florist, I figure its the same?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/13 02:07 AM

No need to steal one get all of them after a few days.

You can start them then transplant to bigger pots in the summer and plant them late fall/early winter.



Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/13 12:46 PM

I do the same thing with roses but just stick a bundle of the cuttings in a big jar of water and put in a sunny place.....at least a 90% success rate

and I also just take the cuttings and stick them in the ground. stick 3 or 4 in the same whole and at least one of them will grow
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/13 02:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
BTW Bill, what kind of tomatoes did you plant?

Looks good East



Celebrity ! We got a frost last night. I did nothing to them. I may have to start over.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/13 02:46 PM

I was told if you water the frost off first thing in the morning you have a better chance of them surviving. I don't know if that works, the plants always died. Good Luck
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/13 03:35 PM

The frost was not in the forecast. Looks as if my tomatoes survived, except for the one the cutworm got.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/13 04:50 PM

Cutworms already? Dang.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/13 09:01 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
Cutworms already? Dang.


I only lost 3. I bought another 6 pack and replaced them. I have my bell peppers, and jalapenos, but have not yet put them in. I plan to do that next week if there's nor frost in the 10 day forecast.

I saw a few of my potatoes peeking through this morning. I'm nor worried about them freezing. You can cover them with more soil, and they'll keep on ticking.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/13 12:21 AM

Ive got brussels sprouts and brocolli about 3 inches high in the rasied beds my onion (stalks?) are huge they havent bulbed yet. I have hot pepper seeds starting to germinate inside.

Its funny, the plants that I start from seeds are like my babies...(dear gay/not gay)
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/13 12:25 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: Payne
BTW Bill, what kind of tomatoes did you plant?

Looks good East



Celebrity ! We got a frost last night. I did nothing to them. I may have to start over.


yep, got frost too. Both my tomato plants are gone.
Posted By: webstertroy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/13 02:27 PM

Need a lil help starting my garden.. My house faces north and south.. Im looking to do a large gargen box on the west side on my house and one on the east side.. Wanting to do tomatos, peppers and squash.. Do yall think that the east and west side will work?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/13 02:38 PM

Originally Posted By: webstertroy
Need a lil help starting my garden.. My house faces north and south.. Im looking to do a large gargen box on the west side on my house and one on the east side.. Wanting to do tomatos, peppers and squash.. Do yall think that the east and west side will work?


It should work fine. I've read that you need 6 hours of sun.
Posted By: webstertroy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/13 02:42 PM

Anyone close to Irving have any plants ready to go into the ground?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/13 02:48 PM

Troy,

I would try it and see what happens. I'd see how much sunlight each side receives and plan/plant accordingly.
Posted By: webstertroy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/13 03:16 PM

Payne know of anyone selling plants ready to go?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/13 03:44 PM

Home Depot has them in this area.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/13 03:55 PM

Originally Posted By: phat694


Its funny, the plants that I start from seeds are like my babies...(dear gay/not gay)


I know the feeling. I was hanging an extra light this weekend and dropped a piece of chain on one of my zucc plants. I was devestated grin

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/13 10:43 PM

Originally Posted By: webstertroy
Payne know of anyone selling plants ready to go?


I would rather give my money to a local nursery or feed store then the big box conglomerates.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/13 12:57 AM

I'm in Briscoe country. I got mine a Fort Bend feed.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/13 02:56 AM

Why not take the time and grow your own Bill?
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/13 04:32 AM

Good setup East.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/13 01:35 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Why not take the time and grow your own Bill?


I have all the time in the world, but but don't want to risk losing them when I grow my ow. Thus, I tend to put them out later. It's like losing my babies, versus losing $10.

I like to get the first ripe tomatoes in my subdivision. I had the first ones on this forum last year. The guy who only lost 2 could cover them, but I can't do that to 24. I plan to dig them up if I get a for sure frost warning.
Posted By: RobertY

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/13 11:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Mudshark
Do you ever fertilize with carp?


Tell me more about this fertilizer
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/13 11:44 PM

A fish under every plant.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/13 11:52 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
A fish under every plant.


Bill, what keeps critters from digging them up?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/13 12:02 AM

You plant them deep so no smell, it's an old Indian trick. Basically a natural slow release fertilizer.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/13 02:24 AM

How deep is "deep"? Critters have good noses for smelling rotting fish.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/13 02:35 AM

How big is the fish?

grin
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/13 02:55 AM

If I caught it, it's likely pretty small. blush
Posted By: RobertY

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/13 03:11 AM

NOW this thread is good!!

I'm hooked!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/13 11:49 PM

Fish was a joke. I dug up mt tomatoes today. It took ten minutes. It would take that long to cover them. Freeze coming Saturday night.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/13 11:54 PM

Seems like a lot of stress to the root system, why don't you wait till the last average frost date?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/13 11:57 PM

Let's see who has the first ripe tomatoes. You are farther south but I think I beat you last year.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/13 12:01 AM

Why do you need to have the first tomatoes?
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/13 12:07 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Why do you need to have the first tomatoes?



Thats my question. I wish I could plant now, it will be April before I can attempt it.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/13 12:28 AM

Originally Posted By: LonestarCobra
Originally Posted By: Payne
Why do you need to have the first tomatoes?



Thats my question. I wish I could plant now, it will be April before I can attempt it.


You can go to the store and buy anything better than you can grow in your garden except home grown tomatoes. You simply can not buy home grown tomatoes.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/13 12:33 AM

That's bs Bill

You know how much preservatives they put in those vegetables. They don't taste better and never will.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/13 12:35 AM

and why do you need to have the first tomatoes?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/13 12:46 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
That's bs Bill

You know how much preservatives they put in those vegetables. They don't taste better and never will.


Don't give me your bitter cucumbers and lettuce. I threw some lettuce out my wife brough home from a friend about a month ago. Last year was my first year to grow better bell peppers than store bought. I buy tomatoes about four times a year. Some stuff ingrow that I never buy.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/13 02:31 AM

Because of my limited amout of space I usually plant; tomotoes in buckets, bell peppers, jalapenos, 1 habenaro, crookneck squash, cucumbers and potatoes (mainly mid-late March from transplants). This year I am starting more from seeds.



I have broccolli, onions and bussells sprouts in the garden currently.
Posted By: RobertY

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/13 03:12 AM

Posted By: mike a

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/13 04:59 AM

Not to change the subject, but my asperagus (sp?) is starting to come up already. The plants are 1 and 2 years old.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/13 01:59 PM

http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/vegetable/files/2010/10/E-503_asparagus.pdf



looks good phat
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/13 02:23 PM



My neighbor and I both tried asparagus several years. It simply would not produce in our area. My sister has it up in Arkansas and it does great.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/13 02:41 PM

I've had some in the ground for three years, finally got some this year.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/13 08:50 PM

Bill, bitterness in cucumbers comes from poor watering practices. Also, if you plant the Armenian variety, they will never be bitter, and stay crisp as well. I tried them once, but still prefer the National Pickling variety.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/13 09:48 PM

Made my rows today







Used the four wheeler to mark the rows








Need to lay the soaker hoses down and add the fabric.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/13 09:50 PM

Originally Posted By: LonestarCobra
I tried them once, but still prefer the National Pickling variety.


Nice, I use National Pickling also farmer
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/13 02:23 AM

Originally Posted By: RobertYuras


roflmao HAHAHa...Im not one for or against any truck; Chevy, Ford, even the Toyota....but that made me laugh when I read it.
Posted By: RobertY

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/13 03:18 AM

smile

I own a Ford

up

Great thread guys! Looks like I need to head to Bill's first for my tomatoes.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/13 10:16 PM

Great looking beds Payne. Looks as if you could even grow sweet carrots in those raised beds. Most Texas carrots have a yellow core.
Posted By: quackcommander

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/13 01:48 AM

Payne- did you use a tractor to make those rows so perfect or ole fashion shovel?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/13 02:28 AM

shovel and a hoe

Posted By: janie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/13 03:32 AM

Always enjoy seeing the pic's and work you put in Payne. Bill and I will be starting our 1st garden ever in a few weeks. Nothing fancy.

A few carrots, onions and tomatoes. Sure I'll be back with questions and seeking advice.
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/13 05:41 AM

Hey Payne, have a bunch of stuff in a small greenhouse. Onions , peppers, lettuces, tomatoes, etc.. I planted seeds a month ago in peat pots. Most everything is coming up but now have a bit of mold in the soil. Wondering if I should increase airflow and light. This is a small portable greenhouse, I have kept it enclosed, so maybe too much humidity? Since I kept this outside I kept it enclosed to get soil temp up. Everything has sprouted including heirloom toms, but my Rio Grande toms never sprouted. Anyway question is about the mold. Ideas?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/13 10:55 AM

I would do what you said, increase light and airflow plus don't over water the seedlings. You don't want them sitting in water.
I use a turkey baster to water, easier to control the volume.



Good Luck Janie, post pics.
Posted By: webstertroy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/13 02:25 PM

How deep does a raised bed need to be for tomatoes and peppers?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/13 02:48 PM

Four inches will do, but deeper is better.

Onions will take a hard freeze.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/13 03:06 PM

Originally Posted By: webstertroy
How deep does a raised bed need to be for tomatoes and peppers?


I used 2x10's and have about 8" of soil, misc compost and manure. I use 5 gallon buckets for my tomatoes and fill the up about 4/5ths to the top.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/13 07:13 PM



Posted By: webstertroy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/13 01:31 AM

well I know I started late but I got my onions in today... Going to get some peppers and tomatos tomorrow to put in buckets... hope it works!!!
Posted By: Cool Mo D

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/13 02:03 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: Cool Mo D
I'm not going to plant any this year, when you can buy them for 6-8lbs for a $1, I'll go that route.


Who does the grocery shopping at your house??

Me. I do comp ads.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/13 02:06 AM

East, good looking spread you got out there.
Posted By: BLUERIBBONS

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/13 03:07 AM

Just a few observations...not trying to start any arguments.

We are in our 4th year of gardening for the purpose of Farmers Marketing. Two years ago we built a drip irrigation system and so far its worked great. Start up cost was around $600 but should last for several more years and included over 60 sticks of pvc.
If you do a search on the internet you can find several videos on how to make drip irrigation systems using pvc. Its worth the time and expense. You can also set your whole system up on timers.

Last year we decided to not make mounds to plant our summer squash\cucumbers\zuccini. some gardening folks have moved away from the mound system so we wanted to try it. Well it worked for us and we had a bumper crop. It saved us ton of time and they seemed to do just as well as the year before when we mounded. I might suggest trying a couple this year and see how it works for you.

good gardening thread!
Posted By: BLUERIBBONS

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/13 03:28 AM

A few pics when we first got it together. First my little okra patch and second the only closeup which was in my wifey's garden.





Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/13 12:04 PM

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ndsP9P7Zfvg/UTSERP0kiLI/AAAAAAAARzI/z-pOgnD-0ok/s1600/043-001.JPG


pretty cool way to start your seeds
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/13 03:30 PM

You guys will be asking about blossom end rot in a few short weeks. Put a hand full of agricultural limestone under each plant to prevent it.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/13 01:09 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
You guys will be asking about blossom end rot in a few short weeks. Put a hand full of agricultural limestone under each plant to prevent it.


Thats a good point, I use lime also. It happens to some varieties worse than others. Epsom Salt will help out once the rot sets in.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/13 08:43 PM

Finished my rows today






It was a little windy





Still need a few bags of mulch then I will be done.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/13 09:06 PM

Looks great. Are planng on putting the water on top of the rows?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/13 09:10 PM

I have an extra soaker hose I can put on top and move around and I have a sprinkler that covers the whole garden.
Posted By: quackcommander

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/13 10:06 PM

looking good Payne! i keep checking this thread to see your progress. You pics are great. I will post some soon
Posted By: Big Orn

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/13 10:18 PM

Sweet! If you can spare some time...I need your expertise.. grin
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/13 10:25 PM

Posted By: Big Orn

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/13 10:41 PM

clap
Posted By: Navasot

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/13 10:45 PM

Deer Garden
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/13 10:47 PM

Beer Bier Garden

Posted By: BLUERIBBONS

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/13 02:07 AM

Looks good Payne! 50 ft rows?

Lots of hard work there but you will be eating good in a few short months! smile
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/13 02:42 AM

50 ish, it keeps growing wider & longer every year..
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/13 02:56 AM

A couple pics of my seedlings sprouting. The peppers haven't popped up yet.



Posted By: sweetwilliam

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/13 02:26 PM

Question for the people using buckets for tomatoes,and peppers!
What type of soil,and what type of prep are you doing with the buckets?
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/13 02:45 PM

This is what i do; Drill a few holes in the bottom of the buckets and add about 1.5"-2" of river rock or gravel to the bottom of the buckets for excess water to drain out, then fill in with soil. That's about it.
Posted By: sweetwilliam

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/13 03:05 PM

Thanks phat"
That's what I expected!
What is the best soil for tomatos,and peppers?
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/13 09:17 PM

A couple of ideas.











Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/13 02:11 AM

Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/13 03:53 AM





Ran out. Gotta add a little more
Posted By: Hooligan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/13 07:03 AM

What kinda lights are you guys using to germinate your plants. I like the set ups you guys

Keep all the info coming!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/13 02:05 PM

Mine are four foot T12's.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/13 05:21 PM

I put my droppers on the top of the bed next to the plants, not in the middles.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/13 07:29 PM

>>>>>>> Click on this Bill <<<<<<<
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/13 10:33 PM

I guess my digging my tomatoes up to prevent frost bite could be taken as the second transplanting. I gave my next door neighbor about a third of my garden. He did nothing, and his plants did fine. I gave a neighbor about 300 yards north of me some plants. He put his in after our coldest night, and lost all of his to a really mild frost. Mine are now putting on some buds.

I'd like to plant some seeds, but the soil is not yet warm enough.
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/13 03:19 AM

I see some of you have some nice gardens,do any of you use any carpet to control the weeds and keep moisture in the ground when it gets hot ?.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/13 04:16 AM

Are you talking about garden FABRIC to control weeds? grin

Yes I do
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/13 01:51 PM

my nephew used regular carpet from houses when he could find it.He was a organic type guy and didn't use any poisons to control weeds or insects.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/13 01:57 PM

Originally Posted By: John2
my nephew used regular carpet from houses when he could find it.He was a organic type guy and didn't use any poisons to control weeds or insects.


What does he do about stink bugs? That is what always does my tomatoes in.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/13 04:12 PM

I planted carrots, lettuce, collards, mustards and swiss chard yesterday. I think Spring is here to stay.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/13 04:17 PM

seeds or transplants?
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/13 04:31 PM

Seeds. Gonna wait another week or so for peppers, tomatoes etc.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/13 04:35 PM

Good Luck
Posted By: larrywoodson

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/13 10:32 PM

We have Brussels sprouts,onions,broccoli,cauliflower and spinach. Still have a lot to plant. Got the rows ready for the others.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/13 10:33 PM

lets see some pics larry
Posted By: larrywoodson

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/13 11:09 PM

I'll try to get some pics this weekend. This is my third year gardening. Still learning slot. Good thread.
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/13 12:41 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: John2
my nephew used regular carpet from houses when he could find it.He was a organic type guy and didn't use any poisons to control weeds or insects.


What does he do about stink bugs? That is what always does my tomatoes in.

I haven't seen him in awhile since they live in Okla but those organic people have their own concoctions they mix up.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/13 02:26 AM

Been talking to East via P.M. about our gardens, he asked me to post up some pics so here you go. Finally got out there last weekend & got it all tilled up & planted my onions, the two rows to the right of the picture are white onions & the two rows to the left are red onions. I just bought 12 Celebrity Tomato plants & four Jalapeo plants but I think I'm gonna wait one more week to plant them. I also have some Cherry & Better Boy tomatoes that I started from seed but I just got the cherry seeds in dirt 2 weeks ago & the Better boys 1 week ago, so they are going to be way behind my Celebrities if they even make it. I don't have any lights, I have them in cups in our garden tub, it has a skylight above it & gets good midday sun, so hopefully they will. Today I got some weed control fabric, so my maters will be planted in a weed free area, I guess I'll just have to deal with pulling the weeds from the other half of the garden (since I already have the onions planted)


Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/13 02:38 AM

Looks great birddog. Save some room for my left over zucchini and squash, I will have more than enough.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/13 02:45 AM


And for your viewing pleasure I present el gardeno de ast













Posted By: Seadog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/13 11:30 AM

Looking good!!!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/13 12:49 PM

CC looks good. If you want to use the fabric on your onions, cut a strip that covers the length of the row. Then lay it next to the plants. Cut from the edge and slide the fabric over to cover the row. Then do the same from the other side and use the staples to hold in place.

The other way to do it is to cut the strip the length of the row. Roll it up then start at the end of the row. Unroll to the first plant and roll it over the plant. Cut a hole around the plant and continue for the rest of the row.

Looks good East. el gardeno de ast loser8
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/13 03:11 PM

Originally Posted By: East

And for your viewing pleasure I present el gardeno de ast
















Are you trying to compensate for a lack in another area East?

J/K, looks awesome man.

Payne, I may try that,thanks.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/13 03:13 PM

I have to provide for my army
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/13 03:36 PM

Originally Posted By: East
I have to provide for my army


Not yet to army size, I have more of a small militia.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/13 03:44 PM

An East Texas midget army doesn't eat as much...
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/13 03:45 PM

Payne does the mulch in between the rows damper what weeds do make it through?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/13 04:00 PM

I don't get any weeds except around the stem and if there is open space in the overlap of the fabric. On occasion I get something growing on bare fabric but those are easy to pull.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/13 04:04 PM

Do you have nut grass down there? I was told it would cut through the fabric
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/13 04:17 PM

Nothing should germinate under the fabric.

Till or Disc your garden before hand and you shouldn't have a problem.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/13 06:13 PM

Got er done this morning. this is $10 worth of fabric from Tractor supply (3' x 50') the ONLY thing I don't like about gardening is pulling weeds, this should help. I didn't get it as good as I would have liked at the onions, but it will still stop a lot of weeds the way it is. Best $10 I ever spent.



Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/13 06:27 PM

That's an awesome kennel.

Nice job on your garden too..
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/13 06:32 PM

Sweet
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/13 06:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
That's an awesome kennel.

Nice job on your garden too..


Thanks. It goes to the left to make a total of 7 kennels like the two you can see in the picture. One stays empty for my hunting/fishing buddy's two dogs when he is down for the weekend.

I can't wait to get my Tomatoes in. If those storms weren't supposedly coming tonight, I would plant my Celebrity's & Jalapeos.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/13 07:44 PM






I'm a few weeks behind schedule on my plants. The tomatoes are about 7 days old, the squash and cucumbers 5 days old and the other little sprouts 2 days.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/13 07:47 PM

My garden as of today

Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/13 08:16 PM

Looking good guys
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/13 08:22 PM

CC think we are suppose to get a freeze Tuesday night
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/13 09:23 PM

I ain't putting nothing else out for at least another week.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/13 01:45 AM

Good call
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/13 01:49 AM

Strawberry fields forever

Frame



Newspaper and soil bags



Soil



Garden soil



Weed protection



Installed

Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/13 01:50 AM

Ran 3 short
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/13 02:54 AM

Never planted strawberries, do they produce first year?
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/13 03:07 AM

So will the weed fabric on top of the soil keep Bermuda from growing?
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/13 04:30 AM

Originally Posted By: phat694
Never planted strawberries, do they produce first year?


Yes. They are actually already producing. I'm behind this year. My onions don't looks near as good as yours
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/13 04:48 AM

Originally Posted By: Halfadozen
So will the weed fabric on top of the soil keep Bermuda from growing?


I'm going to answer your question to the best of my knowledge.

If you till the ground deep enough and lay the fabric nothing should sprout underneath it. (imagine laying a tarp on the ground)

Saying that I have heard that different areas have different types of grass that can penetrate it. This is my first year growing from seeds and using the fabric so I am not speaking from experience
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/13 04:50 AM

Ripped out the rotted landscape timbers today and put in a real raised garden using frame-it-all connectors and double stack 2x6 cedar. So nearly have a foot of soil. 4 beds, each 8x8'. Will post pics soon as everything is finished. If you haven't tried frame-it-all, I would highly recommend them. Sure beats trying to nail/screw/square everything.

Still wondering if the fabric everyone is using in their beds will keep out Bermuda.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/13 10:03 AM

Are you asking if the grass under your raised beds will grow through the soil to the top of your frames?
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/13 02:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Halfadozen
Ripped out the rotted landscape timbers today and put in a real raised garden using frame-it-all connectors and double stack 2x6 cedar. So nearly have a foot of soil. 4 beds, each 8x8'. Will post pics soon as everything is finished. If you haven't tried frame-it-all, I would highly recommend them. Sure beats trying to nail/screw/square everything.

Still wondering if the fabric everyone is using in their beds will keep out Bermuda.


I don't use any fabric. I just hand pull any grass/weeds. I don't get much, I might pull out 2-3 every few days.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/13 04:01 PM

I grew up on a cotton farm in Arkansas. I plowed mules. I picked cotton. We also chopped cotton. I hated it but I became pretty adapt with a hoe. That's what I use on weeds, and also for hipping up the rows, to help water retention.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/13 05:07 PM

I think I will give this a try this year.





Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/13 06:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Are you asking if the grass under your raised beds will grow through the soil to the top of your frames?
I know Bermuda will grow up through the beds. So was thinking about puttin fabric down at ground level, then soil on top of that, then finally another layer of fabric for weed control.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/13 07:20 PM

I use newpaper to line the bottom. But what I did after I set my rasied beds on the ground I dug up about 2" of ground then replaced it with quality top soil. Our neighborhood backs up to the lake and our soil is mostly clay.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/13 09:23 PM

I would try to get as much of the grass up as I could. Maybe cut them into strips and plant them in bare spots if you have any.

Till the area, lay some soil down then lay the fabric down and fill with soil.

Please post what you do, I'm interested to see what happens.

Thanks and Good luck
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/13 09:34 PM

My Uncles garden















His Neighbors garden



both of them





Oh Bill.....


Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/13 11:33 PM

Yep. He got the first ripe tomatoes. The feed store has some on their south wall, which produce in the winter. I could use some of that dill weed.

I sweating out the cold forecast for tonight. I'll turn my dripper on. Wish me luck.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/13 11:44 PM

Good Luck

I have a 2x10 strip of dill, if you want some seeds remind me in the summer.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/13 12:11 AM

Payne, your uncle is rockin' big time
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/13 12:20 AM

Yeah he's doing his thing. Small rows/no fabric, to each his own.

I like his green house, it was 60 outside and 90 inside.

His other neighbor with that white pipe looking fence grows nothing but berries. That row goes 2.5-3 feet wide the length of the fence
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/13 12:26 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Good Luck

I have a 2x10 strip of dill, if you want some seeds remind me in the summer.


I will give you a recipe for ziplock dill pickles this summer.
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/13 02:56 AM

Payne, I will let you know how it works out. My beds have been in place for 8 years, but have always struggled with bermudagrass. So this year I have tilled twice to a depth of 12", and then pulled out any remaining roots. Plus I have used Roundup. Then I put in my raised beds over the same spot. Each raised bed is 8x8 and 12" tall, and have four total. Of all the plants in years past, only the garlic didn't mind the Bermuda. But it is still a pain and water consumer.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/13 03:03 PM

I use preen fabric. You can get it from Sam's for $29 for 225'x 4' or Walmart for $20 for 100' x 3'. loco

The 225' roll comes with staples the 100' doesn't.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/13 03:04 PM

$29 at my Walmart for 3' x 150', no staples bang
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/13 01:40 AM

Okay Gents, another question or 3!

I am replacing my fence around my garden this year as we have many critters that love veggies. Currently have a 3 foot welded wire fence set on t-posts which has done pretty well for the past ten years. But am looking to spruce it up a bit. Mainly because my wood corner posts have rotted some.

I am looking to put in a 2 rail post and board fence 3 feet above ground, then attach new welded wire with a face plate. Post spacing will be 10 feet on center, and rails will either be 1x6 cedar boards or 5/4 x 6 deck boards.

Questions:
1. Since I am using post and board, do I need to brace the corners (except of course where the gate will be, which I will brace).
2. Will a 4x4 buried 1 foot deep with gravel and concrete mix be deep enough for the posts? It's not likely to have a lot of tension with the wire fence, or have wind load since it is a post and rail. Buying an 8' 4x4 allows me to cut them in half for this purpose.
3. Should I use cedar or deck boards for a 10 foot run between posts? My thinking is the 5/4 deck board so they won't bow over time.

Thanks for your advice!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/13 11:29 PM

My uncle planted his garden today.


Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/13 03:48 PM

I'm planting my 12 Celebrity Tomato plants & 4 Jalapeo plants Saturday morning, also gonna transplant my Cherry & Better Boy plants that I started from seed, into some bigger pots, then let them go about 3 more weeks before putting them in the ground. This is my first time trying to start anything from seeds & I started them a little late but oh well, I might grab one Cherry Tomato plant at wally world this evening just to have one at the same stage as my Celebrities. The Better Boys I don't really care, they never have produced much for me in the past anyway.
Posted By: SmallTownHunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/13 04:02 PM

I'm planting mine this weekend will post pics when I'm done forecast looks good from now till April yall think were done with winter? Grandma say's I'm planting too early
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/13 04:09 PM

I have some of those big planter buckets they use for trees that I have been using to make Crappie condo's, If we get a cold night, I'll cover em up. I can't wait any longer, it's driving me crazy.
Posted By: hook_n_line

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/13 04:25 PM

Oh yeaah! I accidentally had 250 tomato plants come up. I had a chicken coop in the backyard and was going to tear it down. (I gave my chickens to my dad about 5 months ago.) Well, I have plants in there that are from 3" - 2' tall. I have no Idea what kind they are because we just through our salad scraps to the chickens, (roma, beefsteak, cherry and sandwich). My father came by and got 70 plants my brother got 60 and my fil got some to. I kept a few. I guess I won't have to by them this year.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/13 05:08 PM

I cant wait either, its driving me nuts
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/13 05:09 PM

It shows the coldest night for the rest of the month to be 47 in the forecast
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/13 10:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Halfadozen
Okay Gents, another question or 3!

I am replacing my fence around my garden this year as we have many critters that love veggies. Currently have a 3 foot welded wire fence set on t-posts which has done pretty well for the past ten years. But am looking to spruce it up a bit. Mainly because my wood corner posts have rotted some.

I am looking to put in a 2 rail post and board fence 3 feet above ground, then attach new welded wire with a face plate. Post spacing will be 10 feet on center, and rails will either be 1x6 cedar boards or 5/4 x 6 deck boards.

Questions:
1. Since I am using post and board, do I need to brace the corners (except of course where the gate will be, which I will brace).
2. Will a 4x4 buried 1 foot deep with gravel and concrete mix be deep enough for the posts? It's not likely to have a lot of tension with the wire fence, or have wind load since it is a post and rail. Buying an 8' 4x4 allows me to cut them in half for this purpose.
3. Should I use cedar or deck boards for a 10 foot run between posts? My thinking is the 5/4 deck board so they won't bow over time.

Thanks for your advice!

Any advice?
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/13 02:36 AM

Originally Posted By: Halfadozen
Originally Posted By: Halfadozen
Okay Gents, another question or 3!

I am replacing my fence around my garden this year as we have many critters that love veggies. Currently have a 3 foot welded wire fence set on t-posts which has done pretty well for the past ten years. But am looking to spruce it up a bit. Mainly because my wood corner posts have rotted some.

I am looking to put in a 2 rail post and board fence 3 feet above ground, then attach new welded wire with a face plate. Post spacing will be 10 feet on center, and rails will either be 1x6 cedar boards or 5/4 x 6 deck boards.

Questions:
1. Since I am using post and board, do I need to brace the corners (except of course where the gate will be, which I will brace).
2. Will a 4x4 buried 1 foot deep with gravel and concrete mix be deep enough for the posts? It's not likely to have a lot of tension with the wire fence, or have wind load since it is a post and rail. Buying an 8' 4x4 allows me to cut them in half for this purpose.
3. Should I use cedar or deck boards for a 10 foot run between posts? My thinking is the 5/4 deck board so they won't bow over time.

Thanks for your advice!

Any advice?



hanged...... up
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/13 03:34 AM

Dang Phat, you're a big help! LOL!
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/13 03:39 AM

I did think about it but not my expertise. I don't know much about that situation. I'm sure you've seen my set up, not the prettiest but easy and cheap.
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/13 03:44 AM

Well appreciate the bump anyway!
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/13 02:13 PM

Just because the rails are wolmanized doesn't mean they will not warp. Ten foot spacings for the posts seems too far apart. I would set the posts deeper than 1' for sure. Just my .02
Posted By: Kyle Campbell

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/13 06:09 PM

I have a 4'x16' raised garden that I built a couple of years ago and I'm constantly dealing with grass and weeds. With this fabric, after I till up the soil can I just lay a sheet on top of the box, staple it down and then cut out holes to plant in? And that will keep the weeds and grass out?
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/13 06:14 PM

Thats pretty much what I do, but I also put mulch over the fabric.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/13 06:33 PM

I use the mulch and staples, grew tired of weeding/hoeing. I cut a X in the fabric then fold the "triangles" in to make a square. I'm planting my garden today, I'll take some pics.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/13 06:43 PM

Could you plant mine tomorrow?
Posted By: Kyle Campbell

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/13 07:22 PM

I will probably do all this and plant mine on Sunday. Thanks for the help guys.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/13 07:50 PM

How I cut the fabric



Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/13 07:51 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
Could you plant mine tomorrow?


Sure, the meter starts when the tires hit pavement and ends when they hit my dirt. grin
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/13 07:56 PM

My garden so far, still need to plant some seeds in rows 3&4.


Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/13 08:04 PM

What are the plants on the last two rows? Squash?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/13 08:05 PM

yep 5 crookneck & 5 straight neck
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/13 08:07 PM

I thought that's what they were since you spaced them so far apart.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/13 08:13 PM

yep, have to offset those giants also. I hate a cramped garden.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/13 11:00 PM

Halfadozen

Just some pics I pulled off the interwebz



























Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/13 11:40 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
Just because the rails are wolmanized doesn't mean they will not warp. Ten foot spacings for the posts seems too far apart. I would set the posts deeper than 1' for sure. Just my .02

Appreciate the input Skeeter. I may go back to my original design using t posts in the run, and only corner posts. Or may go ahead and spent the extra cash and put in posts every 6 or 8 feet and bury them at 2'.
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/13 11:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Halfadozen

Just some pics I pulled off the interwebz




























Thanks Payne, some good ideas there!
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/13 05:48 PM

The bamboo gave me a great idea. I get boo by the trailer load. hmmm.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/13 07:36 PM

Kentucky Wonder green beans







peafowl proof



Quinault strawberries, I did three boxes like this one.

Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/13 07:49 PM

I bought a couple of Fourth of July tomatoes today. I've never planted them before. It says I should have tomatoes in 45 days. Anybody else ever planted them?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/13 10:10 PM

I haven't planted those but I have planted Early Girl they should be ready in 50 days.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/13 10:15 PM

I also planted some Heatwave II tomatoes that say will produce in 100 degree weather. I am really curious about them.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/13 08:58 PM

It's not the heat that stops my tomatoes. It's the stink bugs. I saw my first blooms today, but they are not ready to set tomatoes. The first ones don't count.

I plant my squash at the ends of my other vegetables. That gives them plenty of space.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/13 09:40 PM

no pics Bill?
Posted By: psycho0819

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/13 09:54 PM

Long timer, first timer.

We've been experimenting with gardening around here for a few years now. We've learned a lot of lessons the hard way, and learned a lot overall.

Part 1:
Last year I lost every large variety tomato I grew to birds. I could go out and target several one to be picked the next day or two, and by the time I got to them they would vanish.

How are y'all protecting you maters from Birds?

Part 2:
Is anyone here growing from Heirloom Seeds? If so, can i get some advice on what varieties I need to look for that do well in our climate?

Looking for the basics, Peppers, Maters, Squash, Green Beans, Melons, etc????


Part 3:
One plant I always thought was a slam dunk has been my nemesis out here, OCRA!

I cannot get Okra to grow worth a dang out here. Every year they stunt about 1' tall and die. I have a pretty good handle on just about every other thing I plant, but just bang my head against the wall every year on ocra.

Part 4:

Taters; Tried taters last year for the first time. Tried the tire method due to limited space, and it all seemed like it was working as planned until it came time to harvest. Had the stack of tires 5 tall, tipped it all over and dug out a handful of taters the size of a baseball, or smaller.

Any advice?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/13 10:19 PM

1. You can use bird netting or a scare crow, I have a couple of plastic owls and if I see them near them I'll shoot a shotgun.

2. I have used California Wonder for bell peppers, Brandywine & German Johnson for tomatoes and Kentucky Wonder for green beans. That's off the top of my head, there have been others over the years.

3. What's your soil like? Maybe over watering.

4.n/a
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/13 10:30 PM

Got my Celebrity Tomatoes & Jalapeos planted Saturday, I left just enough room for my Cherry Tomatoes (right side) that are a few weeks behind. I probably wont plant the Cherry's for at least 3-4 more weeks.


I had to put two plants at the end of my onions to leave enough room for the Cherry Tomatoes. The plants on the far left in this picture (below) are my Jalapeos. The foot print in the onions is from one of my dogs (Star).
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/13 10:37 PM

Looks good CC up farmer
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/13 11:26 PM

1. I used a few pinwheels, like the cheap plastic one you get at the dollar store. That seemed to work ok for the birds, but then I had rabbits get in my garden.

2. Celebrity tomato seeds, sweet 100 (cherry tomatoes) grow very well for me and seeds will produce.

3. Never grown okra

4. Taters need cooler soil to do well. My first batch in early spring always produce better than my late season ones. Probably because of the heat. I grow the little red 'new potatoes'
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/13 11:50 PM

Originally Posted By: phat694
1.

3. Never grown okra


Picking okra is the problem, not growing it.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/13 01:39 AM

I grew twenty of the Heatwave II last year. I grew them from seed and yes they set fruit in high ninety degree weather. The Taste was just like store bought, bland. My Homesteads produced right alongside them, and had a good acidic flavor.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/13 09:53 AM

Originally Posted By: LonestarCobra
I grew twenty of the Heatwave II last year. I grew them from seed and yes they set fruit in high ninety degree weather. The Taste was just like store bought, bland. My Homesteads produced right alongside them, and had a good acidic flavor.



Thanks for the info LC. The Heatwaves are new to me so I thought I would give them a try. But I also plant more varieties as well.
Posted By: Kyle Campbell

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/13 08:35 PM

I finally planted our garden yesterday and decided to put in a separate sprinkler system on a whim. It has awesome coverage and should also reach our tomato plants in 5 gallon buckets if I place them around the perimeter. $30 in materials should save me hours of watering this growing season. cheers

Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/13 08:37 PM

That is redneck engineering at it's finest. Good work!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/13 08:50 PM

Very nice setup Tech

Is it on a timer?
Posted By: Kyle Campbell

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/13 09:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Very nice setup Tech

Is it on a timer?


I have a timer but I haven't configured it yet. I'm not sure how often and how long I should set it for yet. Is every morning for 10 minutes too much at this point?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/13 09:13 PM

I just check with my finger at this time, stick it down an inch and if its dry I water. Kind of hard to answer with all the variables.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/13 09:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Tech03
Originally Posted By: Payne
Very nice setup Tech

Is it on a timer?


I have a timer but I haven't configured it yet. I'm not sure how often and how long I should set it for yet. Is every morning for 10 minutes too much at this point?


It's probably too much depending on how much water is coming out of the jets. Every other day is probably ok. Remember, you want the roots to go down to the water. Too much watering will discourage that.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/13 09:54 PM

Nice set up Tech! I usually water mine about every 4th day or so(3rd day when it starts to get hot) and soak them pretty good. That way the roots grow deeper. My bucket tomatoes hold water pretty well through out the year and I can move them to shadier parts of the yard in the summer.
Posted By: Kyle Campbell

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/13 09:59 PM

Thanks for the tips, guys.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/13 12:03 AM

We tied a 107 year old record for heat today. My tomatoes are blooming. Looks as if my onions will be bulbing by next week.

Also, a little hijack. I hope the quail will soon start nesting.
Posted By: SmallTownHunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/13 11:35 AM

Anybody else watch the forecast last nite thier saying were going to get a light freeze Monday morning, I'm kinda worried because just like you all I just put all my plants in the ground
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/13 12:50 PM

Originally Posted By: SmallTownHunter
Anybody else watch the forecast last nite thier saying were going to get a light freeze Monday morning, I'm kinda worried because just like you all I just put all my plants in the ground


I dug my tomatoes up once and replanted them after the frost.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/13 01:47 PM

I got my zuccs, squash, cucumbers, green beans, and tomatoes in the last couple of days. Half of the cukes and squash are struggling pretty bad. Hopefully they make it, if not will just dig them up and direct sow some more seeds











Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/13 01:52 PM

Originally Posted By: SmallTownHunter
Anybody else watch the forecast last nite thier saying were going to get a light freeze Monday morning, I'm kinda worried because just like you all I just put all my plants in the ground


My Accuweather app shows nothing below 39 degrees here in the Metromess for the next 15 days.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/13 02:04 PM

yep, they said north tx county's, I should be good.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/13 02:05 PM

Looks good East.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/13 02:31 PM

Hey East, why are some of your plants in jail?
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/13 02:42 PM

That is my redneck trellis
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/13 04:40 PM

I tried some cuke transplants once. I direct sowed some the same day I planted the transplants. The direct sowed ones out performed the transplants.
Posted By: SmallTownHunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/13 04:46 PM

Originally Posted By: LonestarCobra
I tried some cuke transplants once. I direct sowed some the same day I planted the transplants. The direct sowed ones out performed the transplants.


I did the same thing last year with cucumbers and had the same results, also did squash both ways and the direct sow outgrew the transplants by alot
Posted By: J.P. Greeson

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/13 05:05 PM

Originally Posted By: East

Good solution for a trellis! Goat panel?
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/13 05:10 PM

Just some cattle panel I robbed from a dormant hog trap


Originally Posted By: SmallTownHunter
Originally Posted By: LonestarCobra
I tried some cuke transplants once. I direct sowed some the same day I planted the transplants. The direct sowed ones out performed the transplants.


I did the same thing last year with cucumbers and had the same results, also did squash both ways and the direct sow outgrew the transplants by alot


I plan on doing that where I loose some, might even pull some of the weak ones now that I hear yall say this
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/13 08:05 PM

Do you guys find your garden relaxing? I enjoy my yard and my garden, but I hate the equipment.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/13 08:23 PM

Bill, are you referring to shovels, rakes and such or mechanical tools like tillers?
Posted By: Kyle Campbell

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/13 08:41 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Do you guys find your garden relaxing? I enjoy my yard and my garden, but I hate the equipment.

Honestly, by the end of each season I find my garden a waste of time and money. I'm only going on my 3rd year now, but I've never done well with anything but peppers and a monkey couldn't even mess those up.

I can't ever seem to do well with tomatoes. Out of 12 plants the past two seasons, I may have been able to actually eat 3 full sized tomatoes. Last year my squash and cucumbers cross pollinated and looked like some toy you'd find in a porno. We tried green beans, not a single one of them even grew.

On top of that, you add up the endless hours of watering, sore back, sweat draining out of every pore in the body, and by the end of the season my attitude is "I'm done."

Then by the time March comes along, I think about how much fun it would be to have a nice garden that we can actually eat from and I decide to give another go at it.

For myself, I think it is just something for me to do when hunting season is over and lake season hasn't started yet. scratch
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/13 08:47 PM

hey tech, have you done a soil sample? I never did any good with maters till last year, it was the first time I bought the $4 test kit, I did what it said & if I remember right I had low P.H., I googled what to do & did it, I had more dang maters than I knew what to do with.


bang I meant to test it this year before I planted. bang

Oh, well it worked last year.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/13 08:51 PM

That is one thing I wish I would of done this year. I will next year and make sure to get it right. My neighbor (not 100 yards away) did well without adding, so I hope I will be alright
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/13 08:54 PM

I was wrong, I had high ph. I added some aluminum sulfate. Garden had been planted for about 4-5 weeks & adding the AS didn't hurt it.
Posted By: SmallTownHunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/13 09:03 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Just some cattle panel I robbed from a dormant hog trap


Originally Posted By: SmallTownHunter
Originally Posted By: LonestarCobra
I tried some cuke transplants once. I direct sowed some the same day I planted the transplants. The direct sowed ones out performed the transplants.


I did the same thing last year with cucumbers and had the same results, also did squash both ways and the direct sow outgrew the transplants by alot


I plan on doing that where I loose some, might even pull some of the weak ones now that I hear yall say this


I like to expierement growing seeds different ways every year and I also did squash,cucumber,tomatoes and onions in big containers with good soil last year at the same time I did others in the ground and by far the ground ones did better, I actually thought the ones in the containers would do better because I used such good soil an such but it was not the case, and yes I enjoy my garden I just like being outside and it gives me something to do when I get home from work
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/13 09:28 PM

Same here, I will usually crack a beer, turn on the radio and head out till dark
Posted By: Kyle Campbell

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/13 09:30 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
hey tech, have you done a soil sample? I never did any good with maters till last year, it was the first time I bought the $4 test kit, I did what it said & if I remember right I had low P.H., I googled what to do & did it, I had more dang maters than I knew what to do with.

I have not. I will stop by Lowe's today and grab a test kit.
Posted By: SmallTownHunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/13 09:33 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Same here, I will usually crack a beer, turn on the radio and head out till dark



there has been many a beers disposed of in my garden up
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/13 03:11 AM

Had to make some wind breaks tonight. Which I like cause if we have another freeze/frost I have more that will fit right over the top and seal the top holes

Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/13 03:19 AM

I suppose its a bit early yet but just curious what the experts on here do as far as staking their tomatoes
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/13 03:31 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Do you guys find your garden relaxing? I enjoy my yard and my garden, but I hate the equipment.


Yes, I enjoy it. I look forward to coming home after work and checking it out. I like planting and maintaining the garden and getting my kids involved. The only tools I use is a trowel and my hands.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/13 03:44 AM

Originally Posted By: SmallTownHunter
Originally Posted By: East
Same here, I will usually crack a beer, turn on the radio and head out till dark



there has been many a beers disposed of in my garden up


Beer gardens, now that's another thread.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/13 01:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Cow_doc.308
I suppose its a bit early yet but just curious what the experts on here do as far as staking their tomatoes



I use tomato cages.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/13 01:47 PM

Tomato cages. Some will fall over when they get full of tomatoes. I use sticks to keep them upright.

My potatoes are blooming. I have gardened all my life, and have no idea what that signifies.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/13 01:50 PM

Hey Bill, what is it that you always say? Oh yeah, a picture is worth a thousand words. Come on man, show us what you got. popcorn

I use tomato cages too.
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/13 03:10 PM

Originally Posted By: East
I got my zuccs, squash, cucumbers, green beans, and tomatoes in the last couple of days. Half of the cukes and squash are struggling pretty bad. Hopefully they make it, if not will just dig them up and direct sow some more seeds



We grew cucumbers,crooked neck squash and zuccini squash on hog wire like that a few times.Then one year I planted cantaloupes and trained them to climb the hog wire but not too high.When they started turning color and smelling like they were getting ripe they would pull off the vine.I only had a few crack because they were too high off the ground.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/13 03:29 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Hey Bill, what is it that you always say? Oh yeah, a picture is worth a thousand words. Come on man, show us what you got. popcorn

I use tomato cages too.


My laptop is in the shop. I do not know how to upload pictures to the I pad.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/13 03:32 PM

I'll post them if you want to email them to me.

pm me
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/13 03:34 PM

I use tomato cages and a piece of rebar and they still fall over on occasion.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/13 03:41 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Hey Bill, what is it that you always say? Oh yeah, a picture is worth a thousand words. Come on man, show us what you got. popcorn

I use tomato cages too.


My laptop is in the shop. I do not know how to upload pictures to the I pad.


O.K. you are excused.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/13 08:44 PM

A good use for an otherwise waste of space...



Im going to plant watermelons there after this weekend.
Posted By: jdw

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/13 10:52 PM

How many bags of garden soil would it take for a 8x4 raised bed garden? I see alot of people using 12" boards but dang that seems like alot of bags of soil and money. I was thinking about an 8" raised bed. Can you reuse the same soil each year?. Can anybody reccommend how many plants to plant per person? It would only be me and my wife eating the veggies.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/13 10:54 PM

Most bags are 1-3 cubic feet. It would be cheaper to get top soil dropped in a trailer or truck bed.

Depends on what you want to grow and if you are going to can some of the harvest.


Looks good phat, how much sunlight gets under there?
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/13 11:40 PM

Originally Posted By: jdw
How many bags of garden soil would it take for a 8x4 raised bed garden? I see alot of people using 12" boards but dang that seems like alot of bags of soil and money. I was thinking about an 8" raised bed. Can you reuse the same soil each year?. Can anybody reccommend how many plants to plant per person? It would only be me and my wife eating the veggies.


My beds are 8x12x10". I tore out another old raised bed and used that soil to fill about 1/4 of the bed. I then bought a yard (6' truck bed) of compost and that pretty much filled it up.

An 8'x4'x8" bed is about .8 yards or 21 cubic feet
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/13 12:00 AM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Hey Bill, what is it that you always say? Oh yeah, a picture is worth a thousand words. Come on man, show us what you got. popcorn

I use tomato cages too.


My laptop is in the shop. I do not know how to upload pictures to the I pad.


O.K. you are excused.


This is from last year's garden;

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/13 12:10 AM

Got any pics of the garden Bill?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/13 12:28 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Got any pics of the garden Bill?


I just got my laptop back. I have to reinstall my camera whatever tomorrow. I'll try to get one and post it up.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/13 01:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne

Looks good phat, how much sunlight gets under there?


Thanks, It still gets a good amount of light. In the summer months the play set provides a decent amount of shade in the afternoon. I figured it would be good for the melons. If i need to add some shade i still have the old screens off our windows that we replaced with solar screens.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/13 01:33 AM

Originally Posted By: jdw
How many bags of garden soil would it take for a 8x4 raised bed garden? I see alot of people using 12" boards but dang that seems like alot of bags of soil and money. I was thinking about an 8" raised bed. Can you reuse the same soil each year?. Can anybody reccommend how many plants to plant per person? It would only be me and my wife eating the veggies.


I was getting a good mix of soil @ $2 per 40lb bag at this place in Aubrey on HWY 380. There prices on other stuff is good too. What I put out today was 4 bags and its about 4" deep.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/13 02:14 PM

Okay here you go;



here's almost full view;

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/13 02:17 PM

Celebrity?

Do you have any pics of the whole garden?

How big is your garden?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/13 02:17 PM

Looks good
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/13 02:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Celebrity?

Do you have any pics of the whole garden?

How big is your garden?



I just took those two pictures this morning. Those are celebrity tomatoes. I have a sick wife, and cut way back on my garden. It was 40 feet by 40 feet. I gave a third of it to my neighbor. I now only have five 40 foot rows. I have 24 tomato plants,
about the same for potatoes, and peppers. I have squash, cucumbers, and basil at the ends of the rows.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/13 02:31 PM

Do you can?
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/13 02:41 PM

Found a old horse trough out near our hunting lease and turned it into a planter with cacti, succulents and sedum.



Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/13 02:42 PM

pretty cool there
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/13 02:49 PM

Originally Posted By: AdvTX
Found a old horse trough out near our hunting lease and turned it into a planter with cacti, succulents and sedum.






Very nice amigo......might have to borrow that idea from you
Posted By: Hooligan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/13 02:55 PM

you guys have some good set ups, makes my little contain stuff sad
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/13 03:01 PM

pretty neat Adv

Wouldn't worry about that Hooligan, I grew in 5 gallon buckets when I lived in an apartment.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/13 03:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Do you can?


The only canning I do is 24 pints of salsa each year, plus a little chow-chow aka green tomato relish. This picture is of my layout before putting up 8 pints of salsa;

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I also freeze around 30 pints of marinara, and maybe a little creole sauce for shrimp.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/13 04:00 PM

Looks good
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/13 07:26 PM

Hey Bill.... grin

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/13 07:52 PM

WOW!!! You're ahead of me. Where did you keep it during the frost?
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/13 07:58 PM

In my garage....I had 2 but the other one didn't make it.

It looks like its pretty close with the one you had in your recent pic.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/13 08:02 PM

looks good phat

What kind?
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/13 08:21 PM

Sun gold, it's a sweet cherry type. The kids like them. The larger plants are still under the lights
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/13 08:24 PM

very nice, I use cherry red and super sweet 100.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/13 08:25 PM

Those sun gold tomatoes and the super sweet 100's are both delicious.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/13 08:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
very nice, I use cherry red and super sweet 100.


up

I've got some super sweet 100's under the lights....they might get out after this weekend
Posted By: Hooligan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/13 05:20 PM

I'm trying to stick with heirlooms for my tomatoes this year. I got some leaf curl when I transplanted them to the bigger buckets but I think they'll make it. Any tips to boost flavor/yield?

side note my strawberries are looking good and already fruiting. I'd post pics but I don't wanna be put to shame with my "city garden"
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/13 05:28 PM

I put composted chicken manure in the hole before I planted my tomatoes. Once planted, I sprayed them with Garrett Juice. You might be able to boost the yield but I don't know about the flavor. There are some fertilizers you can buy that are specifically for tomatoes.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/13 05:30 PM

Just post the pics man
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/13 05:35 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Just post the pics man


Yeah, you know that nobody ever gets dog piled on in here. roflmao
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/13 05:39 PM

rofl bang
Posted By: PriddyTxHunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/13 05:43 PM

My wife and I got ours planted last weekend.





Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/13 05:54 PM

real nice
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/13 06:02 PM

Has the fenced in part always been a garden?
Posted By: PriddyTxHunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/13 06:23 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
Has the fenced in part always been a garden?


Yes, I started gardening about 4yrs ago. We have several wild dogs that run around our area and they were digging up in the garden. I had some leftover tin from my shop, so I put it on the bottom and then put the fence on top of that. I don't have to worry about rabbits now either and I normally put that bird netting around and on top to keep the birds from getting my tomatoes. I bought chickens last year so I built that coop next to the garden and I just did the unfenced garden this year for corn and potatoes. We really enjoy it and get the kids involved with it.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/13 06:26 PM

I had to put a fence around my garden because my dogs were eating the tomatoes off of the vine.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/13 06:46 PM

I will eventually put a fence around mine. My dogs end up blasting through at warp speed two or three times a week. They pretty much know not to, but sometimes they are running through so fast & come around the corner it's too late.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/13 06:49 PM

Very nice Priddy

Hooligan, I doubt anybody dog piles in this thread.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/13 10:41 PM

Very cool setup Priddy!!
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/13 10:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Hooligan
I'm trying to stick with heirlooms for my tomatoes this year. I got some leaf curl when I transplanted them to the bigger buckets but I think they'll make it. Any tips to boost flavor/yield?

side note my strawberries are looking good and already fruiting. I'd post pics but I don't wanna be put to shame with my "city garden"


Nothing wrong with city gardens (I think we are all country at heart). I have about 80+/- sqft of garden and use 5 gallon buckets to plant tomatoes in. When I transplant into the buckets or ground I always put half cup or so of ag. lime and some blood/bone mix to give the plants more calcium and minerals. I have some strawberries as well and Ill post some pics of my salvaged flower planters I put them in.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/13 11:56 PM

Here we go again. I just watched the latest Houston weather forecast. They were forecasting lows near 40 degrees for Sunday, and Monday night untill the latest. Now it 39 degrees, with frost as far south as Conroe. I'm south of that but out in the country. We're at least 5 degrees colder than Houston. That puts me on the bubble.

My neighbor lost all his tomatoes with this forecast a couple of weeks ago. My garden is next to a pond. That might have helped keep the frost down.

We need to get together and figure out a plan. I don't pray, but I have my fingers crossed for all you guys. I don't like it, but I could stand to lose everything except my tomatoes. I have 24. I have two row drippers. I'll turn those on. I may cover a half dozen. Anymore suggestions?
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/13 12:13 AM

Bill, could you put buckets over them? What about putting a tent like structure over the rows with poles that hold the middle up over the maters? Maybe charcoal around for heat? I'm just thinking outside the box.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/13 03:47 PM

I have 12 celebrities & 4 jalapenos, I have less than $8 in all of that. I will cover them with buckets but if I lose em, I lose em. I'll buy some more next week. Eff it.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/13 08:00 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
I have 12 celebrities & 4 jalapenos, I have less than $8 in all of that. I will cover them with buckets but if I lose em, I lose em. I'll buy some more next week. Eff it.


Some people could lose their babies. What's your forecast up there?

My neighbor across the street is putting several dozen rosesfrom 2 gallon pots. I just got enough to cover all my tomatoes, and some of the peppers.
Posted By: jdw

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/13 09:06 PM

Can anybody reccommend a good bagged garden soil? I was considering miracle gro but seen bad reviews that it has alot of debris and dries out to fast. When i mix garden soil with topsoil is the ratio 50/50? Also, will i be able to reuse the soil every year?
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/13 09:13 PM

What part of the state are you in?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/13 09:39 PM

Originally Posted By: phat694
What part of the state are you in?


Good question. You can get a full yard of it for around $25 three miles from my house.

However you can also get straight compost. I'd go with that if I were mixing it with top, like Payne did with his mushroom compost.
Posted By: jdw

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/13 09:39 PM

Im in ellis county
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/13 09:41 PM

Are you mixing it in with a started garden or making raised bed?
Posted By: jdw

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/13 10:18 PM

I would be making a raised bed.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/13 10:23 PM

You need soil instead of straight compost.

Do you have or have access to a truck and/or trailer?

If so it will be cheaper and a better way to go with a top soil from your area. Do you have any nursery's that sell by bulk?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/13 10:24 PM

wait a second, are you in the country?
Posted By: jdw

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/13 10:26 PM

Yes we have couple of nurserys that sell soil. So i can use all topsoil in my raised bed? Do i need to mix it with anything else such as compost or peat moss?
Posted By: jdw

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/13 10:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
wait a second, are you in the country?


Pretty much. Live on 80 acres
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/13 10:28 PM

First time I would go with 70/30 split soil/compost.

Not to be nosy BUT why not a garden?
Posted By: jdw

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/13 10:32 PM

I dont have a tiller and dont want to spend a few hundred bucks on one. I plan on it in the future. I just dont know what my soil is like.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/13 10:37 PM

You can get a soil test from A&M for 17$. Much better than the store bought tests.

Anyways back to this year,

How big is your raised bed going to be?

What are you going to plant?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/13 10:43 PM

There's a link in this thread that would probably answer all of your questions.

http://www.texashuntingforum.com/forum/u...ion#Post4110118
Posted By: jdw

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/13 10:45 PM

I plan on a 10x4 to start out. Maybe some collards, peppers, tomatoes and green beans. How many plants of each to feed two people and maybe can some also?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/13 10:49 PM

Here's K.P.'s link, some good info

Garden Planner
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/24/13 12:09 AM

Originally Posted By: jdw
Can anybody reccommend a good bagged garden soil? I was considering miracle gro but seen bad reviews that it has alot of debris and dries out to fast. When i mix garden soil with topsoil is the ratio 50/50? Also, will i be able to reuse the soil every year?


Here is what I did when I first put my raised beds in....

Originally Posted By: phat694

I dug out about a foot of the clay dirt and grass, lined the bottom with newspaper and then filled that in with quality top soil. Then I used several bags of mushroom humus, manure, organic compost and plant/vegetable potting mix. In all about 800-900lbs of new dirt and soil. I now have chicken wire around the box to keep out rabbits....they got to my plants late this summer.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/24/13 12:16 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
I have 12 celebrities & 4 jalapenos, I have less than $8 in all of that. I will cover them with buckets but if I lose em, I lose em. I'll buy some more next week. Eff it.


Some people could lose their babies. What's your forecast up there?

My neighbor across the street is putting several dozen rosesfrom 2 gallon pots. I just got enough to cover all my tomatoes, and some of the peppers.


Supposed to get down to 38 in Dallas, wind is going to start blowing about midnight, wind chills in the upper 20's. I covered everything up.
Posted By: Hooligan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/24/13 12:29 AM

I guess the good thing about everything in containers is that I got it all moved into the garage for the cold
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/24/13 01:59 AM

Thanks for the heads up, Kevin.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/24/13 02:33 AM

So since it was raining today I figured I'd spend some time in the garage and realized my grow light was getting crowded so I went and picked up another shop light and rigged up this frame to move my larger plants to. Then since its going to get colder the next few nights I thought I might make a sudo green house type thing by wrapping a garbage bag around the frame. I actually works! It's about 10-12 degrees warmer with the trash bag set up. Once I was finished with the grow light set up I noticed some boards lying around and instead of putting them away I thought I might make another set of raised beds. That's about it for tonight.





Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/24/13 11:40 PM

FREEZE warning for Dallas tonight.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/24/13 11:47 PM

Originally Posted By: phat694




Genius clap


Wind has been gusting all day suppose to get in the mid-thirties tonight, hoping for the best.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/13 12:15 AM

There was always something great about the first bale of cotton, when I was growing up in Arkansas. It was always like a carnival. Lots of free stuff.

It's the same in my subdivision about the first ripe tomatoes. I went out and dug up four of mine, covered the rest, as well as some of my peppers. There was a lull in the wind as I placed the plastic pots over my tomatoes. The pots have now blown all over my yard. I am soon headed back out to put them back over the plants. Hope for another lull.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/13 12:18 AM

Mine did the same thing, Bill. I had to put bricks on top of the pots to hold them in place.
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/13 01:34 AM

Put my hanging tomato in the garage for the night.

Should I just leave it in the garage til the cold weather is gone. (Looks like Tuesday) or put it back outside every morning?
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/13 02:21 AM

All covered up
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/13 03:38 AM

Cow_doc, mine are all inside...a few days without real sunlight won't hurt.
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/13 03:05 PM

This Agave pup took some work to remove and get into a pot


The garden boss kept a eye out all weekend


Spent all day Sunday getting everything ready for the blueberries, that raised bed has a yard of decomposed granite to help with drainage.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/13 03:08 PM

Thats awesome man
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/13 03:12 PM

Nice work Damon. How many chickens do you have now and how many eggs do you get per week?
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/13 03:22 PM

We now have 12 1/2, we have 1 that is always getting out and playing games with our dog.....she lost Sunday morning when I was in the garage and is now in rehab! Average is 6-9 eggs a day.

I covered the tomatoes up with buckets and blankets(thinking about leaving them covered until Wednesday)

Thank y'all
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/13 03:41 PM

I'm gonna have to post up some pictures of my new gardens. We're doing things differently this year & learning as we go. My wife & I both have been gardening for a long time but this year we have been going to classes learning "Heritage Gardening" aka "Companion Gardening". This is the way our (my) Native American ancestors grew their food until about 1900. It's designed to get maximum yield out of a small garden space with healthy tasty veggies. I call it organic hippie gardening, we'll see. My tomato garden has been in the ground for a few weeks already & doing good. My peppers are in the ground too. I'm gonna plant my sweet corn, snap beans, butternut squash, straight neck yellow squash, zucchini, okra, watermelons, & cantelopes today hopefully. I've been watching this thread for a while, figured I'd join in on the fun. I love gardening!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/13 03:55 PM

Originally Posted By: AdvTX
We now have 12 1/2


roflmao

Nice setup Adv looks great.

What's up Skinner
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/13 04:41 PM

Hey Payne! Just doing a little gardening here LOL. I see your garden is looking good!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/13 04:53 PM

Thanks

Where are you taking classes? I go to the master gardener ones in Victoria.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/13 05:05 PM

Been going to classes here in Rockport, at a feed store called "Moore Than Feed". There's a local guy who owns an all organic farm here that has been giving the classes. He sells his produce & chicken/pork to local health food stores. This guy specializes in growing productive gardens here in our SAND using old school methods (pre-commercialized farming). The tomato class was a few weeks ago & went to his corn/beans/squash class Saturday. I've learned quite a bit so far.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/13 08:32 PM

A rose I propagated last year.



Lost the squash to the wind, just need to make it through the morning. 34 degrees with a 15mph wind forecast.

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/13 09:20 PM

I dodged a bullet last night. I'm leaving my sprinkler on for my full garden tonight. There's no way I can cover mt potatoes;

Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/13 12:10 AM

Ive been sick all weekend and only got out yesterday and covered a few things. SO, lost all my tomatoe plants and okra last night. All potatoe plants killed as well. Thee potatoes SHOULD grow back. I knew I put our okra out too early but did it last year and got by but wasnt as lucky this year.

SO, will be replanting as soon as Im over this crud.
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/13 02:50 AM

Question for the experts.

Is it too late to set out broccoli? I've never grown it. And, right now I can't find any plants to buy so it may be a moot point.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/13 03:26 AM

Sweet coop AdvTx!
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/13 01:06 PM

Between the crazy wind and the last two nights temps I have lost everything but strawberries. Luckily I planted twice as much as I need in my garage, so I am just going to wait a few weeks and try again

oh well
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/13 01:41 PM

I think we dodged the bullet here in the metromess. It only got down to 35 on my thermometer.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/13 02:01 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Between the crazy wind and the last two nights temps I have lost everything but strawberries. Luckily I planted twice as much as I need in my garage, so I am just going to wait a few weeks and try again

oh well


Dang man, that sucks. Good thing you had a backup plan.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/13 02:07 PM

thats what I get for listening to the weather man. its cool I still have more than enough. I knew I was pushing my luck
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/13 02:09 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
I think we dodged the bullet here in the metromess. It only got down to 35 on my thermometer.


28 At Cedar Creek this morning. Everything looked good yesterday after my wife pulled the buckets at lunch, now if I made it through last night, I should be good to go.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/13 02:15 PM

these are what I have left plus I will be direct sowing quite a bit

Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/13 02:20 PM

East, even with you losing everything, you still have a crapload. eeks333
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/13 02:28 PM

Gotta be prepared for the worst

Plus I was going to give some away but wont be able to now grin
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/13 03:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Cow_doc.308
Question for the experts.

Is it too late to set out broccoli? I've never grown it. And, right now I can't find any plants to buy so it may be a moot point.


I've always grown my broccoli in the fall, as well as cauliflower. I've started them from seeds in small strip in my garden, around the first of August, then transplanted them around mid September.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/13 03:33 PM

Why did you transplant them Bill?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/13 03:33 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Gotta be prepared for the worst


It's getting deep in here, everybody got waders on? loser8
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/13 03:56 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
Why did you transplant them Bill?


It was easy to keep a 6 foot area moist, so I planted them in a very small area, and kept them moist during the hottest part of them summer. I could have 2 or 300 there. I transplanted them to 18 inches apart. They didn't require as much water after mid September.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/13 03:57 PM

Makes sense.
Posted By: SmallTownHunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/13 04:34 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Between the crazy wind and the last two nights temps I have lost everything but strawberries. Luckily I planted twice as much as I need in my garage, so I am just going to wait a few weeks and try again

oh well


I lost everything too I had buckets over the peppers and tomatoes but that didnt help it got down to 26 here oh well I guess I will just start over like you just sucks because I had 12 different kinds of heirloom tomatoes from 3 different nursery's
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/13 04:43 PM

Man sorry to hear that small town.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/13 05:46 PM

Just talked to my wife, she's home for lunch & said everything looks good. Woo Hoo!! I made it through!! banana2 banana2 banana2 banana2 banana2 banana2 banana2 banana2 banana2 banana2
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/13 06:03 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Man sorry to hear that small town.


+1
Posted By: SmallTownHunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/13 09:33 PM

Ya I guess you live and you learn I planted the same time I did last year but every year is different obviously so I think I might wait until April next year no matter what the forecast says, I didn't lose alot monetary wise maybe 30 bucks but it sure is a bad feeling to walk out there to your garden and all your plants be dead
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/13 10:48 PM

I just got home, I have two (celebrities) that might not make it. Everything else looks good.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/13 12:37 AM

Originally Posted By: SmallTownHunter
Ya I guess you live and you learn I planted the same time I did last year but every year is different obviously so I think I might wait until April next year no matter what the forecast says, I didn't lose alot monetary wise maybe 30 bucks but it sure is a bad feeling to walk out there to your garden and all your plants be dead


You can't learn with just one year. Don't give up. Keep trying for an early crop, or at least an average last frost.
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/13 01:30 AM

I don't have a garden but the 5 fruit trees I planted earlier have bloomed and are doing well.I was afraid of the last 2 nights but they seem do be doing well today after the frost.We have 2 patio tomato plants but they were brought inside.I'm thinking about getting one more but we are in the middle of some renovating and wife enough for now.
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/13 03:35 AM

Well I lucked out. Had not moved but 2 plants from the greenhouse to the garden. One bell pepper and one hatch chile. They were covered with plastic Tupperware but didn't make it. The lettuce seedlings actually came through, they had only sprouted 2 days ago. Peach trees were pretty much done blooming and came through fairly well. Looks like I will be planting this weekend!
Posted By: sshields

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/13 05:35 AM

This is my first year of gardening. for some reason fire ants are attracted to my garden. Any of you have the same problem?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/13 04:49 PM

I used to have them, started putting "over & out" on the lawn surrounding the garden. Haven't had any problems since then.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/13 05:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
I used to have them, started putting "over & out" on the lawn surrounding the garden. Haven't had any problems since then.


Link please!!
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/13 07:31 PM

You can get over & out at any hardware store Bill. My wife works for a pest control company so I get my fire ant stuff for free but her boss recommends Over & Out to anyone wanting tips on how to do it yourself. Supposedly works pretty good
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/13 07:32 PM

http://www.homedepot.com/p/GARDEN-TECH-Over-N-Out-Fire-Ant-Killer-Granules-100505434/202753035
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/13 09:38 PM



Thats the stuff, it comes in larger bags for a little bit cheaper. That one is 11.5 pounds, you can get a 20 or 25 pound bag.

I started using it 7 years ago after trying pretty much everything you can get with out a license. This has worked the best out of all of them.
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/13 04:34 PM

After looking closely at my trees when we got home yesterday I noticed one clump of leaves had a blackish.The rest of it looked great along with the rest of the trees.I'm not looking for any fruit this year and i'll pinch any off if I see any this year.I'm planning on tilling the grass away from the trees hoping to keep grasshoppers off them.
What poison can I put down or plants to grow as a barrier to help keep grasshoppers off them ?.
Thanks
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/13 04:41 PM

guineas
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/13 08:12 PM

Just a few pics of my new gardens. Doing things a little different this year. It's not easy finding places to plant because I've got so many trees and not enough sun. I finally said the heck with it & started cutting trees down. I want my garden! The borders are all temporary scrap wood. I'll have more time to spend fixing it all up as soon as we're done with all of this home remodeling so don't judge me. grin Here's a pic of my tomato garden, six tomato plants along with beneficial flowers & herbs. Yes I'm using Live Oak leaves as mulch, (need to add some more though) no more weeding the garden!

Here's our flower garden, next to what will be my outdoor kitchen. There is drip irrigation under the mulch. I still need to bury the trunk lines.

Here are my two Louisiana Satsuma orange trees, Chiltepin, Mexibell, Sweet Yellow Bell, Hot Jalapeno, Jumbo Jalapeno, & Serrano peppers. Kinda hard to see, they're still babies.

My favorite pepper in the whole wide world, the Chiltepin.

Planted the vegetable garden last night. Pic of my wife teaching my two year old how to plant seeds. He planted his first row of corn & beans. grin

Again, using a different method this year. Dug three rows 10 ft long, 3 ft wide, 1 ft deep, & 5 ft apart. Planted sweet corn, snap beans, butternut squash, yellow straight neck squash, grey squash, spaghetti squash, zucchini, watermelons, cantaloupe, a little okra, & all of the beneficial herbs (cilantro, basil, dill) & a few flowers. I'm gonna dig one more little 3x3 plot for more okra. It's going to be a crowded little garden but that's kind of the point here. Once everything shoots up I'll put in the drip irrigation & mulch it good with oak leaves.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/13 08:14 PM

Nice job Skinner, looks great.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/13 08:16 PM

Thanks Payne.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/13 08:27 PM

I just wish I had real dirt to work with. Our soil is all sand & hardly any nutrients in it at all. We mixed in a lot of soil amendments, (revitalizer compost, green sand, crushed oyster shell, pure live oak ash, corn meal, & rocket fuel). Especially after adding compost later in a few years I should have some really good garden soil.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/13 08:47 PM

Looks good, Skinnerback. I sure do like all those liveoaks in your yard. How are you keeping the deer out of your garden?
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/13 08:48 PM

Looks good skinner!

Nice feeder, looks like you could tag out with out leaving the house
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/13 08:54 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
Looks good, Skinnerback. I sure do like all those liveoaks in your yard. How are you keeping the deer out of your garden?


Thank you. I like the trees too & it keeps mowing the yard interesting laugh Well I'm not sure yet on the deer. I bought some deer repellent but I have no idea if it's going to work or not. I may have to build a fence if they terrorize me.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/13 09:01 PM

scare crow and a radio might help, talk radio you don't want any "mood music" banana

there's also motion detector sprinklers
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/13 09:01 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Looks good skinner!

Nice feeder, looks like you could tag out with out leaving the house


Tanks East, yeh I like a little meat with my veggies. grin I must confess, I've sat in my garage many times with my crossbow looking out the window at my feeder watching deer at 15-20 yrds. So far I've passed on everything. I've seen two huge bucks but never had a shot. My neighbors however unleash hell on the deer come rifle season. I could tag out in my back yard lol...
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/13 09:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
scare crow and a radio might help, talk radio you don't want any "mood music" banana

there's also motion detector sprinklers


Thanks Payne, never heard of the motion detector sprinklers.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/13 09:08 PM

these are suppose to be good ones, I don't know I haven't used one personally.

http://www.amazon.com/Havahart-5265-Detector-Sprinkler-Repellent/dp/B000BO71NY
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/13 09:11 PM

My local walmart has them, dont remember brand or price though
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/13 09:17 PM

I may give them a try. They might like it though lol. When I'm running my lawnmower the deer will come in my yard no problem. As soon as I turn the mower off they run? I dunno...
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/13 09:19 PM

I didn't say anything about a paintball gun, why do you ask? aim
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/13 09:20 PM

roflmao
Posted By: BLUERIBBONS

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/13 11:11 PM

I bought my mom this sprinkler to keep the cats\squirrels out of her raised bed. So far it works great! I got lucky and caught it on sale for less than $40. Over 1,000 reviews on it so far.

good luck

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000071NUS/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/13 02:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
guineas

I don't have a fenced yard and I mentioned chickens to the wife before. argue
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/13 10:38 AM

That's too bad, they'll keep them away and will walk through a garden and not destroy the plants like chickens will.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/13 05:05 PM

I just saw my first tomatoes on my plants. They're on the ones that I dug up and replanted the second time.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/13 04:56 PM

Thats good Bill. I wish mine were planted. We had a 19*F freeze last week, so I held off planting them. Looks like I may plant them today.
Posted By: Hooligan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/13 09:01 PM

Finally got a pic of the set up I have right now. Strawberries and herbs are not in the pic.



a couple heirloom varieties, chocolate pepper and anaheim plants with some cilantro. merigolds to keep the bugs away

not much but its a start
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/13 09:29 PM

Looks good Hooligan.

How big are those pots?
Posted By: Hooligan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/13 11:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Looks good Hooligan.

How big are those pots?


Payne I think they're 3 gallon. They're 13 1/2". I know most people use 5 gallon but I'm gonna try it with these. They have worked good for Cherokee Purples in the past. Middle trough is 20 gal

My Black Krim and Brandywine plants are starting to produce

Next task is to make something to keep my strawberries safe from thieves
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/13 11:31 PM

You could get some plastic mesh fence, cheap and easy to work with.

Looks good
Posted By: Hooligan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/13 11:43 PM

Thanks I'll run by the feed store tomorrow and grab some

Trying to decide what else to plant
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/13 11:48 PM

Try some pole beans. They don't take up much space and are easy to grow. I like the Kentucky Wonder's.

Maybe some okra, I like Clemson spineless.

PM me your address, I'll send you some seeds.
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/13 02:27 AM

I havn't got these on the patio yet.

Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/13 12:17 PM

If i had those on my patio, my two Australian Shepherds would eat every tomato. bang
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/13 01:02 PM

Are those the tomato plants tha Walmart sells?
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/13 05:33 PM

Walmart wishes they had plants like that but i'll check where I got mine to see if they have any more.
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/13 08:37 PM

Walmart does have Hatch chiles which I can't find anywhere else. Gonna give them a try this year.
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/13 09:19 PM

A few garden and chicken coop pics, plus our Blackbelly lambs, Rambo and Midnight
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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/13 09:22 PM

Very Nice HD clap flehan clap
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/13 09:34 PM

A few more ]



You can't really see the plants in the garden yet, will try to post pics in a month. We planted 3 varieties of tomatoes, jalapeos, bells, habaneros, cukes, cantaloupe, cilantro, lettuce, sunflower and some other stuff that I forgot!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/13 09:37 PM

nice place you got there, is that a chicken tractor or steps for the goats?

Love your coop.
Posted By: Hooligan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/13 10:57 PM

awesome setup HD
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/13 11:42 PM

Thanks guys. Payne, that platform is for the sheep to jump on. All the windows on the coop are hinged, so when the yard birds get old enough, they can fly the coop during the day, but the sheep won't get into their coop because I don't have to open the gate. The coop leads to inside the barn (where I posted a pic of the chicks), so when it is really cold in the winter they can be draft free. Not too worried about draft right now. The stalls in the pics are actually divided, so the sheep can get out of the weather if needed, or to lamb. Small setup, but works for us. The only thing I can't control are the Mexican hawks stealing birds!
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/13 11:45 PM

I went to Lowe's in Murphy after leaving therapy and they still have tomato plants like the one I posted.I decided to get one more while the wife was looking at lawn chairs.Now I have 3 Husky Tomato and 2 patio Determinate.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/13 11:55 PM

Originally Posted By: John2
I went to Lowe's in Murphy after leaving therapy and they still have tomato plants like the one I posted.I decided to get one more while the wife was looking at lawn chairs.Now I have 3 Husky Tomato and 2 patio Determinate.


Great!!! My tomatoes are not quiet ready for more pictures. Maybe a couple more days. I'm now puttting the cages up. I love my garden, but putting the cages up is my worst choir.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/03/13 12:01 PM

http://www.globalbuckets.org/


I had saved this from a couple of years back...these are great and shows you can grow easily anywhere
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/03/13 12:57 PM

After all this rain, I looked at my Tomatoes yesterday & I might have only lost one to that freeze last week. and that one will probably make it too, it will just be way behind, the other two I thought were gonners, are going to be fine. I'll try to remember to get some pictures this weekend.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/03/13 01:37 PM

BLTs are are only a month away. I have about a dozen like this;

Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/03/13 02:30 PM

Bill,that's a good looking plant and a dozen like that you will have plenty of salsa.
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/03/13 02:43 PM

Great looking place halfadozen!
Posted By: Hooligan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/03/13 05:39 PM

Originally Posted By: takewhatyoucan64
http://www.globalbuckets.org/


I had saved this from a couple of years back...these are great and shows you can grow easily anywhere


That's a cool link


kinda like the "gangsta gardner" from South Central
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/03/13 06:52 PM

These are the only plants we plan on having this year,unless I can find something that will ripen as fast as these tomatoes.The son might wind up with some of these if they are late bloomers.The wife told me the deck needed to be bigger. bang
The plant by the miracle grow is mint.

Posted By: redchevy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/03/13 07:00 PM

Planted my first garden as an adult on Monday. The rain beat it up pretty bad last night, but we will see how it goes. First year in the house, still getting things set up how I want, the garden next year will be much better, I just couldn't make a year with no home grown tomatoes.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/03/13 09:44 PM

"The wife told me the deck needed to be bigger."





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Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/13 01:18 AM

Originally Posted By: John2
The wife told me the deck needed to be bigger.


Its not the size of the deck, its how its used. woot
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/13 04:39 PM

It was late when I got home from therapy but I wanted to check my fruit trees.I haven't looked at them in a few days since it's been raining and sprinkling on and off and I was surprised to see little peaches.The more I looked the more little peaches I saw with these being the biggest ones.The sad part is i'm pulling all of them off since this tree was planted not too long ago and I want it to grow and develop a good root system.The others were in bloom but I think the frosts got the blooms but I was going to pull everything off the first year anyway.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/13 11:51 PM

Needed to lighten up today since we're in the waiting part.

The greenhouse was too dark so I added some clear panels.

Before









Middle





After








Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/13 01:40 AM

Looks great Payne. How did you reach that middle span?
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/13 01:52 AM

Now that's a good question
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/13 01:58 AM

Ninja training ninja the last couple of years helped and I used a ladder. grin
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/13 03:31 AM

Looks good Payne,what is that gizmo in the drill ?,it looks like it could be a slip clutch.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/13 10:25 AM

looks like he started with the middle span
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/13 11:30 AM

John, the keyless chuck?

twyc64, 12 foot panels
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/13 01:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
John, the keyless chuck?

Aw yes,the keyless chuck, bang
Posted By: PriddyTxHunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/13 08:21 PM

Payne or anyone else for that matter.......

What do you use to kill ant beds that won't hurt the chickens? I've got several ant beds around my chicken coop and garden and I'm afraid to use anything that would harm the chickens or contaminate the eggs.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/13 08:56 PM

Don't use over & out around your coop/chickens or garden, it's bad for both.

You can plant mint around them, it won't kill the ants but it will repeal them.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/13 09:11 PM

Are your chickens free range?
Posted By: Hooligan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/13 09:18 PM

random question but kinda related. Are eggs from yard birds better than the grocery store just like produce is better than what you buy?
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/13 09:21 PM

10000x's better
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/13 09:23 PM

Yes they are better. If you are ever down this way Hooligan, not you East, I'll give you five dozen to take home to try out.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/13 09:36 PM

You ever get any double-yoked ones?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/13 09:38 PM

No, I have gotten some eggs the size of tangerine but they were still singles.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/13 10:24 PM

A few update photos...

Watermeloms


Potted veggie's under bird netting


Upclose pic of little tomaters


Broc, Sprouts, Onions and Spinach
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/13 10:28 PM

up Looking good man
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/13 10:28 PM

Looks good phat

Like the netting. Have you ever grown watermelons?
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/13 10:37 PM

thanks Guys.

Payne, I have not.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/13 10:39 PM

what kind are they?
Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/13 11:10 PM

How big is that bed phat?

I've got two 2x6 beds that I'm trying to figure it what to it in them.

Thinking of doing three tomato plants in one and then a couple bell peppers, jalapeo and not sure what else in the other.

How hard is spinach and broccoli to grow?

This is my first garden attempt
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/13 11:16 PM

Spinach and broccoli do better in the fall.

Do you like green beans, okra or squash?

You could do carrots around the edges.
Posted By: FFF21

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/13 11:26 PM

Phat, your onions look mucho better than mine. Everything is looking great!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/13 11:40 PM

Originally Posted By: FFF21
Phat, your onions look mucho better than mine. Everything is looking great!


My onions look about the same on the tops. I can't see the roots. Mine are starting to bulb. I have a couple from the store, but I think they will be the last unitl October. Same with potatoes.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/13 11:49 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
You ever get any double-yoked ones?



We used to get quite a few double yolk eggs from my grandmothers chickens. Maybe the rooster was the reason why. For reasons that I don't remember, she did not sell them.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/13 02:47 AM

Looking good Payne! I noticed today that my little orange trees are freakin' loaded with baby oranges (BB to pea size). The trees are only 3-4 ft high though. I don't have a lot of experience with fruit trees yet, looks like those small limbs will snap once the fruit gets to size. Thinking of pinching off a bunch of them but not sure?....
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/13 03:41 AM

Jase, if you wanna come over and look at my setup, let me know.

All my greens I put in back in early feb. thanks FF, the onions I planted from sets in dec (I think).

Like bill said the broc, sprouts and spinach do better in the fall. I got the broccoli and brussel sprout for $2 for a little 9 pack and figured what the hay.

Payne the melons are sugar babies I think. This is the first year for Fruits. I also have squash and cucumbers I need to plant somewhere.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/13 10:06 AM

How old are the trees skinner?
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/13 02:29 PM

Originally Posted By: PriddyTxHunter
Payne or anyone else for that matter.......

What do you use to kill ant beds that won't hurt the chickens? I've got several ant beds around my chicken coop and garden and I'm afraid to use anything that would harm the chickens or contaminate the eggs.


I know you can use Cinnamon around bee hives to keep ants away and it doesn't bother the bees.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/13 05:23 PM

Originally Posted By: PriddyTxHunter
Payne or anyone else for that matter.......

What do you use to kill ant beds that won't hurt the chickens? I've got several ant beds around my chicken coop and garden and I'm afraid to use anything that would harm the chickens or contaminate the eggs.


Boiling water would be a good start.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/13 06:22 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
Originally Posted By: PriddyTxHunter
Payne or anyone else for that matter.......

What do you use to kill ant beds that won't hurt the chickens? I've got several ant beds around my chicken coop and garden and I'm afraid to use anything that would harm the chickens or contaminate the eggs.


Boiling water would be a good start.


I read that bolinig water would do the trick, and tried it with my propane fish fryer, with 2 pots. It didn't work for me.
Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/13 07:03 PM

Anybody do fruit trees with any success? Was thinking about a peach and apple tree. I've read you have to do them in pairs for cross pollination though.

The wife was eyeballing an orange tree but how do those survive winters?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/13 08:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Jase
Anybody do fruit trees with any success? Was thinking about a peach and apple tree. I've read you have to do them in pairs for cross pollination though.

The wife was eyeballing an orange tree but how do those survive winters?


Early peaches do real well in my area. Plums do well. Several people have tried apples without success. My neighbor had a grapfruit tree that did well for several years, then it froze.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/13 10:08 PM



I have around sixty trees in my orchard. Figs, plums, peaches, pears, apricots, orange, lime, lemon, grapefruit and persimmons.

I can't get apples, cherries, olives or avocado's to grow. i have some banana trees but they don't produce either.




I also have grape vines. 4 Venus, 2 Flame and 2 Thompson.
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/13 10:10 PM

Get the self pollinating fruit trees and you won't need a pollinator.I don't think orange trees survive winters up here unless you can keep them from freezing and keep the frost off.I just pulled over 30 small peaches off this one as I want it to grow and develop good root system.



Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/13 10:15 PM

Skinner, If the orange tree is less then three years old, I would pull every one off the tree to give all the energy to the growth of the tree.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/13 11:03 PM

I have Peach, Apricot, And Apple trees. The Apple trees are delicate. The chilling requirement for them is hard to get in my area. The apple trees I have were on the place when I bought it, and all I know about them are that they are of one of the green varieties. The Ranger peaches do very well for us if the freezes dont get them. I still have not planted my Tomatos or peppers mainly due to wet soil, but that is good considering we had a 29 degree night this week with a medium frost. bang
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/13 11:25 PM

How long is your growing season Cobra?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/13 11:33 PM

Originally Posted By: LonestarCobra
I have Peach, Apricot, And Apple trees. The Apple trees are delicate. The chilling requirement for them is hard to get in my area. The apple trees I have were on the place when I bought it, and all I know about them are that they are of one of the green varieties. The Ranger peaches do very well for us if the freezes dont get them. I still have not planted my Tomatos or peppers mainly due to wet soil, but that is good considering we had a 29 degree night this week with a medium frost. bang


Texas is a big state. It would really help if everyone listed their area on this particular forum, as Cobra does on this post.

I think this is the best share your information thread on the forum.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/13 11:37 PM

South Central near the coast..
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/13 12:17 AM

Lavon is in my sig and it's just east of Wylie,Tx.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/13 12:56 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
How long is your growing season Cobra?


Usually from early April to mid October between freezes. Last year was nice with the last freeze in Mid March. I had one of my best gardens in terms of yields.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/13 01:02 AM

I've seen your setup, it's a farm not a garden farmer

Posted By: janie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/13 01:15 AM

Payne your property and the amount of work you put in, continually blows me away. up


Bill and I finally have a small garden going. Nothing much. Raised bed with carrot's and onions. Tomato plants are in 5 gallon buckets.
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/13 01:43 AM

Originally Posted By: janie
Payne your property and the amount of work you put in, continually blows me away. up


Bill and I finally have a small garden going. Nothing much. Raised bed with carrot's and onions. Tomato plants are in 5 gallon buckets.

Agreed, beautiful property.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/13 02:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Halfadozen
Originally Posted By: janie
Payne your property and the amount of work you put in, continually blows me away. up


Bill and I finally have a small garden going. Nothing much. Raised bed with carrot's and onions. Tomato plants are in 5 gallon buckets.

Agreed, beautiful property.


+1
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/13 03:09 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Skinner, If the orange tree is less then three years old, I would pull every one off the tree to give all the energy to the growth of the tree.


Sorry Payne....I don't know how old they are but they're not very old. They came from a nursery in South Louisiana last year & I just put them in the ground a few weeks ago. Oh, & those weren't baby oranges all over they are blooms. Lots & lots of blooms.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/13 11:50 AM

Thanks y'all


Skinner, I would pick any fruit you get this year and next year. It will promote the growth of the tree.
Posted By: PriddyTxHunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/13 05:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Are your chickens free range?


They are in a coop, but I let them out in the evenings for a couple of hours to free range.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/13 09:59 PM

If they are a little aways from your coop & garden. I would use over & out and water it in then let it dry before I let the chickens out.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/13 10:07 PM

Uncles neighbors garden

tomatoes far and I think cukes near.



corn, lettuce, dill some grape vines in the back





Uncles garden

tomatoes



dill, corn, green beans, lettuce, cucumbers and bell peppers



meh they live in the city



Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/13 12:22 AM

How are those tomato plants so big already? Also, with my growing lights, I turn them off at night and turn them on in the morning. Could I keep them on 24/7?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/13 12:38 AM

I keep them on 24 when I start seeds. Then put them on a timer when it warms up. I'd sow seeds at this time, soil should be warm enough.

He pulled his plants at the first frost and put them in a green house. Some made it through the winter, They are huge and have fruit all over them. He has 50-60 volunteer tomato plants in there, I took ten of them.
Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/13 01:29 AM

Got the beds planted Saturday.

1 jalapeo, 2 bell pepper, 1 sweet red pepper and 2 strawberries just for kicks.



4 better boy tomatoes. The stuff in the near corner is some kind of garlic chive? They were in the box when I got them.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/13 01:35 AM

Looks great Jase
Posted By: BnT

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/13 05:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Jase
Anybody do fruit trees with any success? Was thinking about a peach and apple tree. I've read you have to do them in pairs for cross pollination though.

The wife was eyeballing an orange tree but how do those survive winters?


You have to pull them in doors. I've never had one survive by wrapping it. I probably did it wrong though frown
Posted By: J.P. Greeson

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/13 05:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
He has 50-60 volunteer tomato plants in there, I took ten of them.

I got two volunteers this year.

cheerleader
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/13 05:09 PM

Lone Star Son just hooked me up with half a dozen Juliette tomatoes. Props to a very nice guy.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/13 05:31 PM

Wonder why he doesn't post in here.....


Congrats JP always nice to have them.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/13 08:10 PM

Methley Plum



Sam Houston Peach

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/13 08:53 PM

I have 4 store bought onions in my kitchen. Looks as if they will last;



I'm not buying anymore tomatoes until these suckers get ripe;



The potatoes are about golf ball size. Home fries with green onions are next for me.
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/13 02:09 AM

Thought I would throw some pictures of my little project up for any comments/suggestions.





I've got red and white onions, couple tomatoes, bell peppers, a jalepeno, broccoli, a head of lettuce, and squash.

And cucumbers under the trellises.
Posted By: LoneStarSon

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/13 02:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Wonder why he doesn't post in here.....


Congrats JP always nice to have them.
I post from time to time...grin

I have 100, or so, volunteers...scared
Posted By: LoneStarSon

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/13 02:11 AM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
Lone Star Son just hooked me up with half a dozen Juliette tomatoes. Props to a very nice guy.
You're welcome...thanks again for the peppers.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/13 02:43 AM

Looks good cow_doc
Posted By: Metal Man

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/13 03:29 AM

Originally Posted By: Jase
Got the beds planted Saturday.

1 jalapeo, 2 bell pepper, 1 sweet red pepper and 2 strawberries just for kicks.



4 better boy tomatoes. The stuff in the near corner is some kind of garlic chive? They were in the box when I got them.

Thats purdy
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/13 10:56 AM

very nice cow doc
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/13 03:01 PM

About a month after planting

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/13 03:08 PM

I put Epsom salts under all my plants this morning. I don't know if it will help, but it's cheap, and can't hurt.
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/13 03:38 PM

I sprinkle it in around my tomatoes and IMO it makes a big difference.

Payne - What's the best way to lower PH? sulfur, pine needles. I'm putting blueberries in containers. Thanks
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/13 04:28 PM

http://www.organicgardening.com/learn-and-grow/how-lower-your-soil-ph
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/13 05:08 PM



Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/13 05:17 PM

Adv I wish I knew. I tried the blueberries in the container thing a couple years ago. I used spaghnum peat, soil and an acidic soil additive. They lasted about a month then died. I might buy some acidic soil and try again but haven't done it yet.


I've read ammonium sulfate for a quick fix and coffee grounds & pine needles for slow release.

It's in my plan just haven't done anything yet. Let me know if you get some to produce.

Here's what I tried to do.







Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/13 05:19 PM

looks great East
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/13 06:31 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I put Epsom salts under all my plants this morning. I don't know if it will help, but it's cheap, and can't hurt.



Yep.....and roses and berry vines love it also....in fact all the evergreens love it like Hollys and Junipers etc...

Tons of magnesium
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/13 06:32 PM

Originally Posted By: takewhatyoucan64
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I put Epsom salts under all my plants this morning. I don't know if it will help, but it's cheap, and can't hurt.



Yep.....and roses and berry vines love it also....in fact all the evergreens love it like Hollys and Junipers etc...

Tons of magnesium


and Nitrogen!
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/13 03:03 PM

Main garden looks good. Other one looks rough

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/13 03:36 PM

Is that your neighbors garden on the other side of the fence?
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/13 03:51 PM

Used to be an old man that gardened all that. Since then he has passed. But the neighbor tilled it but don't know what he is going to do
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/13 06:52 PM

Go over there and plant some sweet corn. We can't grow it in pecan country.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/13 10:37 PM

The setup looks good East!


Does anyone know where I can get a Red Oak tree for planting in my back yard?
Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/13 10:42 PM

Theres a tree nursery on 121 and Custer I think. They have all sizes of trees there.

Home Depot had some small ones for less than $100.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/13 03:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Jase
Theres a tree nursery on 121 and Custer I think. They have all sizes of trees there.

Home Depot had some small ones for less than $100.


Oh yeah, Fannin Tree Farm (I think). There's one in Gunter too I just found.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/13 03:26 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Go over there and plant some sweet corn. We can't grow it in pecan country.


Never thought about asking him if I could do that. He's not very sociable but it's worth a shot
Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/13 12:53 PM

Originally Posted By: phat694
Originally Posted By: Jase
Theres a tree nursery on 121 and Custer I think. They have all sizes of trees there.

Home Depot had some small ones for less than $100.


Oh yeah, Fannin Tree Farm (I think). There's one in Gunter too I just found.


That's the one! If I remember they get a little proud especially once it's over 3" but they have a great selection.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/13 05:43 PM

Here's a decent look at my full garden. I only have 5 rows this year. Seven if you count the doubles on my onions and peppers. The cucumbers and squash are on the ends. The clumps you see, are clumps of cilentro which ahs gone to seed. There's a few new ones ready to use.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/13 06:16 PM

That's a beautiful spot you got there Bill.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/13 06:59 PM

Nice garden, Bill. Any fish in the pond?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/13 07:35 PM

Thank both of you for your kind words. The pond is stocked, but I only fish salt water.
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/13 03:35 AM

Nice garden Bill,lately a lot of gardens have been showing up in here. up
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/13 02:15 PM

We decided to run west Friday to fill feeders and haul water, I'm tired and sore.

East and Bill y'alls places look great....really like that pond


Payne-Skeeter thanks for the info. I've got 3 horse troughs that I'm trying to get the soil ready for blueberries, I'll see how it goes with all the amendments.

The blackberries are now in full bloom!
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/13 02:16 PM

Nice place Bill! What kind of trees are those around your pond?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/13 02:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Halfadozen
Nice place Bill! What kind of trees are those around your pond?


They're all native pecan trees.
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/13 02:37 PM

The wifey made a huge salad last night and I planted 5 Honeyberry bushes around the garden

Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/13 03:13 PM

Been thinking about this and want to see what the experts have to say...

The backside of my house faces due west. Lots of sun after about 11am and in the summer gets hot as blazes.

I've been thinking of planting some berries, blackberries, strawberries, whatever might grow there along the backside of my house.

Would they survive and is there anything really special I need to know? I've read a little and it makes it sound like you have to have a freakin degree to grow berries.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/13 03:45 PM

Blackberries are pretty simple to grow. Do you have a chain link fence or are you going to build a trellis?
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/13 03:56 PM

Blackberries are definitely the easiest and do really well in our native soil with 1 or 2 applications of fertilizer per year. Once established they will send out new shoots in every direction that you have to keep in check I dig them up and move them or give them away.
Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/13 01:10 AM

I'd have to put up some kind of trellis.

I may give this a shot before too long
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/13 01:38 AM

Sounds like a plan.

You can buy or build them.

Here's what I grow mine on.



Two cattle panels & five t-posts
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/13 02:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Sounds like a plan.

You can buy or build them.

Here's what I grow mine on.



Two cattle panels & five t-posts


How much land do you have?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/13 02:43 AM

just enough...
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/13 03:52 PM

I can grub out a mess of these red potatoes anytime;



My tomatoes are showing up in clumps, and a few peppers are sticking.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/13 04:09 PM

Those new potatoes are my second favorite behind Yukon Golds.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/13 04:27 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I can grub out a mess of these red potatoes anytime;



My tomatoes are showing up in clumps, and a few peppers are sticking.


I should have added that I only planted red potatoes and California whites. I tried some the gold ones a couple of years ago and didn't do well with them
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/13 04:59 AM

I've got several West TX horse cripplers blooming


I see this dude every morning but first time I have seen one shedding
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/13 02:26 PM

heres a few pics from around my house.
Passion Flower:

Miniature rose I got my wife for Valenines day:


Snap Dragon:

Garden pic from the side with Jalapenos, 4 rows of onions & Okra is planted on the far side (taken 4/13):

My tomatoes:

Cant forget to show pictures of our Lizards (we have at least five or six of these things this year, they are everywhere):

Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/13 02:29 PM

Looking good man up
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/13 02:37 PM

Kevin, that passion flower is really cool.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/13 02:39 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
Kevin, that passion flower is really cool.


Thanks, I have a purple one too but it hasn't bloomed yet. I'll post up some pictures of it when it does.
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/13 04:07 PM

Looking good CC, wish those PF bloomed more than 1 day we had about 12 yesterday.
Posted By: gutshot

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/13 09:00 AM

i have something destroying my garden, and have seen a ton of june bugs. is that whats eating the plants?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/13 10:46 AM

Do you have any pics of your plants?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/13 12:25 PM

You guys are making me jealous with pictures of your garden flowers. I'm only doing caladiums this year, and they are not yet up.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/13 02:50 PM

Originally Posted By: gutshot
i have something destroying my garden, and have seen a ton of june bugs. is that whats eating the plants?



Are you seeing the adults or are you digging up grub worms? I have never experienced any damage from them.
Posted By: redchevy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/13 03:01 PM

I was pretty surprised with my little garden. Yesterday I checked it and had 1/2 a doz tomatoes on already. I haven't had a garden in 10 years or so. The tomato plants said they took 60 days to mature so I was figuring 2 months before I saw an maters... well 2 weeks later and they are starting to load up!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/13 06:50 PM








Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/13 08:54 PM

Your tomatoes are looking good. Do you use poles or rods to hold up the cages when they start to lean? I do, but only as needed.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/13 09:14 PM

Payne, what happened to your tomato cages?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/13 09:25 PM

Years of abuse skeeter, need some new ones but I don't like the 3 footers.

I used rebar Bill but I'm going to rip some 1x2" x6' and try those this year. Also only when needed.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/13 09:32 PM

Home Depot had some that were around 54" tall.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/13 09:41 PM

an hour to the closest one..
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/13 11:26 PM

Don't study about it. Mine are 35 years old. Most of the bottom legs are broken off. I just stick them in there and prop them up when needed. They can blow over, and still be propped up. Sometimes I use sticks from my tree trimmings.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/13 01:38 AM

This is pretty neat, great app from Burpee.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/garden-time-planner/id594225389?mt=8
Posted By: sshields

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/13 01:56 AM

my dad used to steak them in with the plastic tent spikes
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/13 02:36 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne


Downloading
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/13 02:38 AM

What can I use to kill ants in my raised bed that won't hurt my vegetables?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/13 02:46 AM

try diatomaceous earth
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/13 02:52 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
try diatomaceous earth


confused2

Tomato earth?
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/13 03:10 AM

North Texas might be in for a frost in the morning.....I'm covering my maters just to be careful
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/13 03:40 AM

Originally Posted By: skinnerback
Originally Posted By: Payne
try diatomaceous earth


confused2

Tomato earth?


Ask for DE
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/13 09:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Originally Posted By: skinnerback
Originally Posted By: Payne
try diatomaceous earth


confused2

Tomato earth?


Ask for DE



and NOT the kind that goes in a swimming pool
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/13 12:09 PM

Good point, you can get DE at nurseries and feed stores.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/13 12:40 PM

Originally Posted By: phat694
North Texas might be in for a frost in the morning.....I'm covering my maters just to be careful


Covered mine last night, all looked well this morning
Posted By: LoneStarSon

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/13 12:53 PM

Got down to 37.3 here and there was frost on my neighbor's roof. My plants look okay...might cover them tonight as tomorrow it is supposed to get colder.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/13 01:39 PM

I didn't check the temp this morning, but I had frost on my windshield.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/13 01:58 PM

37.8 at my house. No frost on my windshield.
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/13 06:50 PM

my onions, greens, cabbage, lettuce and potatoes


planted my tomatos, peas, beans (green snap and pinto), squash, cucumber, cantaloupes and watermelons last week


Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/13 07:14 PM

man goose thats looking great. what part of the state are you in?
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/13 07:42 PM

East Texas, just north of Nac
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/13 08:17 PM

Very nice BlueGoose. Looks great!
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/13 08:42 PM

Good looking garden goose!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/13 08:58 PM

Goose, what do you do with all your vegetables? I have a small garden and I end up throwing some of mine over the fence.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/13 09:00 PM

Goose, that is one impressive garden
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/13 09:38 PM

Thanks guys!

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Goose, what do you do with all your vegetables? I have a small garden and I end up throwing some of mine over the fence.


I can and freeze alot of it and give the rest of it away
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/13 11:14 PM

There's no way I would pick okra and give it away. Let them pick it.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/13 02:32 AM

East Texas guys covering theirs tonight? Forecast shows 37 here but no wind. Think I'll be alright
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/13 02:37 AM

I'm not out that way but I'm also not covering them tonight.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/13 02:41 AM

I did last night but the wind was kicking. I left some uncovered to see and they did fine and the wind was kicking. Pretty calm tonight and only 43 right now
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/13 10:33 AM

Only 41 here
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/13 10:52 AM

It's 40.1 here
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/13 11:28 AM

When I was on the road truck reset to 35. But no frost
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/13 11:34 AM

Lots of late fronts this year, keeps things interesting.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/13 11:55 AM

The TV said 43 in Houston, but there was frost on my neighbor's roof. I turned the sprinkler on for an hour last night. The wind blew the water 40 feet away from part of my garden. I turned it back on this morning.

I think I'm okay, but some people lost some of their tender plants last night.

It's also about 10 degrees cooler here in the summer.
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/13 02:04 PM

Wife said it was 42 here when she got up. up
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/13 02:37 PM

had a light frost here. I didnt cover anything and havent been out to check on it yet
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/13 09:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Cow_doc.308
What can I use to kill ants in my raised bed that won't hurt my vegetables?


I found a recipe online for a 50/50 mixture of granulated sugar and borax to kill fire ants. I mixed some up. I'll keep you guy updated if it works or not
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/13 04:28 PM

Nice gardens THFers. I'll post a picture of my work later.

For those that use a scarecrow, meet Sentinel.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/13 10:37 PM

Nice chicken man, what did you use for the frame?

I was considering rebar, pvc or 1x4's.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/13 01:01 PM

Looking good guy's!!! heres a few more pics of flowers around my yard.





Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/13 01:23 PM

very nice CC


I got my first penhen egg this morning.






and my morning started like this



Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/13 01:27 PM

I love fresh eggs.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/13 01:30 PM

The hogs get the ones in the other side, got crap on them or were broken.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/13 04:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
I got my first penhen egg this morning.



trout peahen/peafowl
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/13 06:30 PM

I don't have any pics of this years flowers but here are a few from last year.







Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/13 06:38 PM

Here is the only plant the wife has cherished over the years and we take it with us everywhere we travel except when we traveled to Alaska.



Christmas Cactus in full bloom



In our camper in S. Texas



Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/13 06:41 PM

Nice pics John
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/13 08:59 PM

BlueG - Awesome garden you make me wish I had more space!

CC - Great pics of the flowers I'll show my wife tonight.

ChickenM - That new scarecrow should work just fine!!!LOL
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/13 09:08 PM

Good looking view to start the day Payne!
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/13 09:38 PM

Jerusalem Sage


African Bulbine


Texas Primrose
Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/13 10:39 PM

How fast should my okra be growing?

I planted it and once it broke ground it took off and got a few inches tall, since then it seems like it has barely grown.

is this normal?

Also, if you could plant something this weekend, what woudl you get in the ground? Will finall have some free time and want to get something planted.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/13 11:02 PM

Been some fronts moving in wait till it warms up and you'll be covered in the okra.

You could try squash, green beans, cucumbers or peppers.

Are you in a garden, beds or containers?
Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/13 11:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Been some fronts moving in wait till it warms up and you'll be covered in the okra.

You could try squash, green beans, cucumbers or peppers.

Are you in a garden, beds or containers?


I have okra ans squash planted in a big raised box.
I want to make another box this weekend.

I think peppers would be a good idea. I'll plan on doing that.
Should I get seeds or buy grown plants?
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/13 11:34 PM

Grown starter plants will put you ahead of seeds.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/13 11:45 PM

If they are still out, down here they are sold out. Brandon you know how big it's down here, ATX probably still has some around.
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/13 02:26 AM

Question for the brain trust.

Has anyone ever planted pole beans next to say sunflowers or corn and letting that be the pole for them?
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/13 02:32 AM

I havent but I have read in several books that it's a pretty good idea.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/13 02:33 AM

Originally Posted By: Cow_doc.308
Question for the brain trust.

Has anyone ever planted pole beans next to say sunflowers or corn and letting that be the pole for them?


Yes, doing it now. Three Sisters Gardening method, sweet corn in a row and one inch away from each stalk is the pole bean. Little further away is all of the squash and additional cover. Still shooting up though so can't say how successful yet. Like the idea though.....
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/13 04:18 PM

Lost two tomato plants and one eggplant..



I killed five of them


dipel dusted

Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/13 04:32 PM

Those horned worms are just nasty.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/13 04:36 PM

HATE THEM SUMBEACHES!!!
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/13 04:37 PM

your chickens will love them
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/13 04:44 PM

catfish love them too
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/13 04:46 PM

They got the foot. The guiennas usually get then before any real problems.
Posted By: dkite

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/13 07:54 PM

Keep watering them they may come back. I had the same thing happen to my peppers and 4 tomatoe plants last year I just kept watering them and they came back very nicely.
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/13 08:08 PM

The wife keeps the seven dust handy but so far she hasn't seen any worms yet.We have 5 tomatoes that are turning orange so it won't be long now.
Posted By: hook_n_line

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/13 08:10 PM

Fish Bait.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/13 08:37 PM

Seven Dust kills bees.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/13 09:08 PM

Thuricide works well on all worms.
Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/13 03:32 AM

what do yall do about weeds (grass) in the garden?

My garden just sprouted up with grass EVERYWHERE.

Will take me a whole day to pull all of em, any suggestions?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/13 01:33 PM

Chop hoe
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/13 01:54 PM

10% vinegar from a pump sprayer should do it. It is non selective so don't get it on your plants.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/13 02:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Chop hoe


Bingo!!! I mentioned it on this forum a couple of weeks ago, but it's easier than chopping cotton. This guy wrote it so much better than I;

http://genealogysstar.blogspot.com/2012/05/chopping-cotton.html

Chopping cotton



Years ago, I learned how to chop cotton. The first step is getting a hoe that works. Those sissy little hoes they have in most hardware stores are more for looks than utility. You have to get a substantial, well balanced and sharp hoe. Have you ever sharpened a hoe? I have many times. Next, you have to learn to tell the difference between the cotton plants and the weeds. The idea of chopping cotton is to remove the weeds, not the cotton. You might think this is easy, but do you know what a baby cotton plant looks like? Neither did I at first. Weeding without know which are the weeds and which are the cotton plants is a disaster. Then, despite all your equipment and all your newly acquired horticultural knowledge, you have to get busy and start hoeing.

Do you have any idea how long one row of cotton can be? Have you ever stood in the middle of cotton field that covered a quarter section? Perhaps mentioning that a quarter section is 1/2 mile on a side helps? Anyway, standing there, at the beginning of your quarter section, you can almost, I say almost, see the other end of the row. Oh, did I mention that they grow cotton in the Gila and Salt River valleys in the summer? Maybe that doesn't mean anything to you, but it means that the temperature at 6:00 am is 95 degrees. OK, get the picture. You have your really good hoe. You have learned the difference between cotton plants and weeds. You are up at 4:00 am to get to the cotton field. You are standing at the head of a row of cotton a half a mile long and there are hundreds of rows to chop and it is almost 100 degrees. Oh, I almost forgot, although you are there to "chop cotton" you are really there to remove the weeds, not chop the cotton. Get the picture?
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/13 04:47 PM

Bill,I have chopped my share of cotton when I was a young'in.The pay was $7. a day and it was double digit hot when we started No shade trees around to get under but back then we didn't know what shade was.They made hoe's for work back then not anything like what is made today but you know that yourself since you used to work in cotton to. up
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/13 09:00 PM

Dang!! I have one store bought onion and two store bought potatoes left. Here are a couple of potatoes I grubbed, next to my 1015Y onions. It looks as if another rain is on the way, and I'll take all the rain I can get, but I'm done with watering potatoes and onions;



Can't wait until this sucker gets ripe. Maybe 10 more days;



We cooked by the seasons when I was growing up on a farm. I have a few great bell pepper recipes to fix in the next few days;



I don't have to wait for my cilantro. I use it in a lot of dishes. Maybe Hunan shrimp, and chicken tomorrow night.

Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/13 09:11 PM

Looks great Bill

Yall have a big time head start on me. Not seeing anything that nice yet
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/13 10:37 PM

Looks good Bill.

Uncle sent me a pic of his first harvest today. Zuccs, tomatoes and onions.
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/13 11:18 PM

Good lookin garden Bill.

I picked 4 tomatoes yesterday.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/13 11:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Looks good Bill.

Uncle sent me a pic of his first harvest today. Zuccs, tomatoes and onions.


I for got!! Where does he live? He's ahead of me.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/13 12:04 AM

Victoria
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/13 02:16 AM

Originally Posted By: East
Looks great Bill

Yall have a big time head start on me. Not seeing anything that nice yet


I only have little bitty tomatoes starting, nothing near that size for a few weeks.
Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/13 12:28 PM

Looking good Bill!

My tomato plants are growing great and I have a few blossoms on them now. Hopefully they'll start growing some fruit here soon.

My peppers are growing very slowly and I'm starting to wonder if they'll do anything at all.

I need to get some bird net covering the two strawberry plants. Every time a berry gets started the dang mockingbirds are getting to them.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/13 12:48 PM

Jase, peppers do that. They grow slow but then will produce a good amount in the summer/early fall. Lowes has bird netting.
Posted By: Hooligan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/13 04:22 PM

Originally Posted By: phat694
Originally Posted By: East
Looks great Bill

Yall have a big time head start on me. Not seeing anything that nice yet


I only have little bitty tomatoes starting, nothing near that size for a few weeks.


Thats where I'm at right now. Looks like everyone's garden is doing great
Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/13 06:38 PM

Originally Posted By: phat694
Jase, peppers do that. They grow slow but then will produce a good amount in the summer/early fall. Lowes has bird netting.


Ok, good to know on the peppers. All this crazy weather probably hasn't helped them much. supposed to only be 55-60 on Thursday this week. Sheesh.
Posted By: Hooligan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/13 07:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Jase
Originally Posted By: phat694
Jase, peppers do that. They grow slow but then will produce a good amount in the summer/early fall. Lowes has bird netting.


Ok, good to know on the peppers. All this crazy weather probably hasn't helped them much. supposed to only be 55-60 on Thursday this week. Sheesh.



Its not the best for pepper but my tomatoes are lovin it
Posted By: janie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/13 08:32 PM

Our first garden. We kept it small. 4x6 raised bed.




And we got mater's growing. banana So far a total of 22. My favorite caliber. smile


Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/13 08:35 PM

Tomatoes look great. What's in the box?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/13 08:58 PM

That looks great Janie
Posted By: Hooligan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/13 09:03 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Tomatoes look great. What's in the box?
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/13 09:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Hooligan
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Tomatoes look great. What's in the box?
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/13 09:57 PM

Some of it appears to be squash.
Posted By: janie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/13 10:14 PM

Thanks y'all. Squash, carrot's and onions.
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/13 12:12 AM

These patio tomatoes are mostly all meat with very little seeds and no hint of any acid at all but good flavor.
I picked these on 4/28



This was 4/30 and I picked it with others today after we got home from Dallas.




Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/13 12:34 AM

Nice harvest

Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/13 01:08 AM

NICE! you're ahead....
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/13 03:49 AM

Originally Posted By: AdvTX
NICE! you're ahead....

No joke!

Looking good!
Posted By: Hooligan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/13 04:37 AM

man and I was excited because I have a chocolate pepper started and a single tomato with a bunch of flowers on all my plants

nice harvest
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/13 12:12 PM

Originally Posted By: John2
These patio tomatoes are mostly all meat with very little seeds and no hint of any acid at all but good flavor.
I picked these on 4/28



This was 4/30 and I picked it with others today after we got home from Dallas.







You cheated.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/13 12:24 PM

he improvised and adapted grin

I did also and have been taking off big tomatoes and tons of cherry ones for 2 weeks and then by hot summertime my other small plants will take over

Its the way I will do it from now on
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/13 12:39 PM

Greenhouse?
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/13 12:48 PM

bought plants from Lowes that were already big in cages with the tomatoes already set on the plants 6 weeks ago

9 dollars got me the pot, the cage,the plant and the soil....I don't see how they could sell them that cheap

I bought 5 of them....brought them all in the garage last night because of this cold and wind
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/13 12:50 PM

Winning!
Posted By: Kyle Campbell

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/13 03:32 PM

Nice!
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/13 05:43 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
You cheated.

I went to Lowes on March 31st and saw these patio plants that already had a few green tomatoes and I debated on getting them.We went back to pick up some other things and the ones I had looked at earlier was gone but they had another shipment of them so we picked out 2 and brought them home.They had a few tomatoes and lots of blooms but the tomatoes wern't near as big as the one in this pic.
One thing i've learned about these patio plants is they don't take Texas full sun and they have to be watered twice a day per the instructions.After reading about other people that have them they keep them under some type of shade.I'll keep them watered but they better learn to adapt to this Texas weather.

Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/13 06:23 PM

yep...these are only taking about 6 hours of sun a day and they still have to be watered twice. Next year Im gonna cut out the bottoms and plant them in the soil

Whatever kind of soil isn't high quality and I add organic fertilizer once a week as Im sure its leeching out quick

But it has been nice to get tomatoes so fast/early in this crazy Dallas area weather this year
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/13 07:18 PM

On mine the leaves have been wilting then turning brown and then I can crumble them in my hand.I was planning on a small garden this year but I have a few things to get finished inside the house.It's almost getting to late and we have a few plans for this summer.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/13 08:47 PM

How cold is it going to get tonight? Do we need to cover our plants?
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/13 08:58 PM

saying 38 in Dallas......good luck keeping it covered in this wind
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/13 09:04 PM

Yeah, the wind is pretty strong here....most of my larger plants are in buckets that I could move inside if I need to.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/13 09:08 PM

yep, I got every plant in the garage. That much cold wind just might be as bad as a freeze


got gusts at 43 mph right now
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/13 10:22 PM

The weather channel says it's 47 now but feels like 39 with the NNW wind at 23 mph gusting to 34 mph.It's been sprinkling lightly here and since the plants are wet i'm leaving them out.I have them tied so they're not going to tip over.
Posted By: janie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/13 12:33 AM

Moved our tomato plants inside. Raised bed got a good rain soaking this afternoon.

Leaving that uncovered.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/13 12:35 AM

Sorry about the weather you guys are dealing with up North. Just snapped a few pics & thought I would share.
After we planted I think my two year old was casting a spell on the garden LOL, (not sure what he was doing with his hand), "POOF" now grow garden, GROW! grin It's growing.....

Em be maters growing.....




Hot Jalapenos....

Looking forward to pics of the vegetable garden and the rest of the pepper garden.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/13 12:36 AM

I watered and covered up what I could. Dammit, it's May and this is Texas. Go away cold fronts.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/13 12:40 PM

I didn't cover any of mine, I don't really have a away to cover em now that they are bigger, I would have to pull all my cages, it only got to about 41 at my house.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/13 12:42 PM

Dang Skinner looks great up

I didnt cover anything, but did loose two plants to the wind bang
Posted By: FFF21

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/13 12:55 PM

Dang skinner, looking great. It's funny to me the stages gardens are at in different parts of the state. My maters are still tiny, but it got down to the mid 30s in my neck of the woods last night.
Posted By: SmallTownHunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/13 02:00 PM

Got down to 33 this morning here I checked my plants before I left for work and they all looked good I guess it didn't stay cold long enough to hurt them
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/13 02:19 PM

It was 37 here at 7 am but now the wind is blowing 13 and gusting to 20 mph.If the temp doesn't get em the dang wind will tear them up since it's supposed to blow all day.
* I just saw where it's going to blow a steady 20 mph this afternoon out of the NNW then switch out of the WSW at 14 mph.Time to build a temp wind break and sprinkle some water on the plants.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/13 10:17 PM

I ran bird dogs into a 30 MPH wind this morning. I got back and looked at my garden. One squash was broken off at the roots.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/13 07:02 PM

One of my neighbors garden. He doesn't like it crowded.








Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/13 08:25 PM

That's corn and what else?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/13 08:43 PM

Tomatoes, squash, jalapenos, bell peppers and okra plus some others.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/13 10:04 PM

Looks like a lot of basil and dill.
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/05/13 04:21 AM

Noticed some of the leaves on my tomatoes I have hanging have spots on them and a few are curled up. its only a few leaves and most of the others look fine. Any thoughts?






Also found these on my Better Boy:

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/05/13 12:47 PM

My first guess would be blisters from water, and sun.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/05/13 10:45 PM

Cow doc, did you use any Malathion on your plants?


If not it looks like early blight to me.
Posted By: Hooligan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/13 12:27 AM

Dang blooms keep dropping off my maters!
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/13 02:14 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Cow doc, did you use any Malathion on your plants?


If not it looks like early blight to me.


I haven't sprayed these with anything. My tomatoes that I have in the ground don't seem to be having any problems.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/13 11:16 AM

How are you watering the plants and at what time?
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/13 01:21 PM

Water hose. Usually late evening after work. Around 6:30-7
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/13 01:24 PM

I wouldn't water them in the evenings it promotes blight. I would water them in the morning and around the base/stem.
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/13 05:39 PM

I can water in the morning but since they're hanging inside down its hard to just water the base.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/13 07:00 PM

Topsy turvying them CowDoc?

Let me know how that works out for you, I have always been curious about those hangers.


It's not good to water at night, try that and they might clear up.

Good Luck.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/13 07:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Topsy turvying them CowDoc?

Let me know how that works out for you, I have always been curious about those hangers.


It's not good to water at night, try that and they might clear up.

Good Luck.


I tried the Topsy Turvey's when they first came out. Worked great until my tomato plants got bigger & started to produce, then the wind picked up one day and snapped them off at the base. frown
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/13 07:18 PM

I was wondering if you could make one out of a five gallon bucket..

Then I thought about getting the plant out of the bucket after it was dead...
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/13 07:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
I was wondering if you could make one out of a five gallon bucket..

Then I thought about getting the plant out of the bucket after it was dead...


Otta be easy enough....
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/13 07:26 PM

sawzall then dump.

The ones in the garden have a pretty wide root system.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/13 07:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
sawzall then dump.

The ones in the garden have a pretty wide root system.


Yeppers, chop off at the base and dump. I was so discusted when my plants broke I just threw the whole thing away. Thought about trying the buckets before I spent the money on the Topsey Turvey's but didn't.
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/13 11:11 PM

Yea they are in topsy turveys. I never tried it before so we'll see. They look great except for those few leaves. Gonna start watering in the mornings and see if that helps.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/13 12:22 AM

I finally caught a trespasser/free loader....

Posted By: janie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/13 03:31 PM

That wascally wabbit. I've noticed more birds hanging around our garden, gonna stick a fake owl out there to keep em at bay.

We are now up to 29 maters. banana
Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/13 04:06 PM

Have a few good flowers on our tomatoes now. a few are wilting away. Haven't seen any fruit coming out yet but the plants are growing great!

the bell pepper plants look pretty ugly right now. the leaves are breaking off mid stem on some. I'm not sure if it's a bug or what. Doesn't look like anything is eating them.

The jalapeno looked real sick but a few days ago it has exploded with new leaf growth.

strawberry plants are looking good and making some very small fruits.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/13 04:08 PM

You could put some miracle grow on them to speed things up Jase.
Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/13 05:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
You could put some miracle grow on them to speed things up Jase.


What can I do to speed up my dat gum okra?


That stuff is just sitting there with two leaves and 3 or 4 inches tall... not growing at all.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/13 05:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Brandon A
Originally Posted By: Payne
You could put some miracle grow on them to speed things up Jase.


What can I do to speed up my dat gum okra?


That stuff is just sitting there with two leaves and 3 or 4 inches tall... not growing at all.



The heat will take care of that
Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/13 05:53 PM

Originally Posted By: takewhatyoucan64
Originally Posted By: Brandon A
Originally Posted By: Payne
You could put some miracle grow on them to speed things up Jase.


What can I do to speed up my dat gum okra?


That stuff is just sitting there with two leaves and 3 or 4 inches tall... not growing at all.



The heat will take care of that

some of the leaves are already starting to crumple/fall off. Will they bounce back when it warms up or should I start some more seeds?
Posted By: FFF21

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/13 05:58 PM

Mine are in the same shape yours are Brandon A. Im just gonna wait it out til we get in the 90-100 temps and I bet they will bounce back and start producing. If they don't when it gets that warm, I will try more seeds.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/13 06:20 PM

Mine are hovering also, just wait awhile. They like it hot and dry.

You'll be cussing the okra shortly...
Posted By: Scary Poppins

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/13 08:03 PM

I still don't know what kind of soil is on the side of the house, but the stuff there is exloding again. Last year we had a tomato plant 6 feet high and about 6 feet wide, with hundreds and hundreds of tomatos.

This year, the plant on the side of the house has a baseball sized tomato already. They're cherry sized on the plants out back
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/13 09:44 PM

Scary Poppins,post a pic of that plant.

Mine have slowed down but I picked 3 more today.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/13 09:57 PM

I'm not all that happy with the small size of my tomato stalks, or are they called vines?
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/13 04:14 AM

My seedlings are all doing bad. Tempted fo buy nursery stock and be done with it.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/13 10:43 AM

Always good to have a backup plan.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/13 02:10 PM

Grapes



Apricots



Plums



Pear



Cucumbers



Eggplant



Bell pepper



Tomato



Jalapeno



Squash



Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/13 02:14 PM

Blackberry



Green Beans





Roses











Mexican Firebush



Onions



Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/13 02:14 PM

Man everything looks great up
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/13 02:17 PM

Thanks, the weather has my garden in different states of growth.
Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/13 03:09 PM

payne do you have dirt under those woodchips?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/13 03:13 PM

There's an old country saying that goes,"I didn't even get my seeds back." I remember I used that saying last year to describe my potato crop. It's not that way this year. This is the first full hill of red potatoes that I dug up. The california whites are looking ever better. Looks as if I'll have over 75 pounds of potatoes from 24 seed potatoes this year. That equals about 50 pounds to give away.


Posted By: Navasot

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/13 03:18 PM

I got blackberries crawling up the side of my house and every fence line...just noticed them yesterday ill have to get a pic
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/13 03:19 PM

Brandon. Yes and that's cypress mulch.
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/13 05:48 PM



Picked about the last of the cool weather stuff. I'll try to get some pics of the rest of the garden, it was growing really well before that last cold snap but should pick back up with temperatures being what they are now.
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/13 05:49 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
There's an old country saying that goes,"I didn't even get my seeds back." I remember I used that saying last year to describe my potato crop. It's not that way this year. This is the first full hill of red potatoes that I dug up. The california whites are looking ever better. Looks as if I'll have over 75 pounds of potatoes from 24 seed potatoes this year. That equals about 50 pounds to give away.




good looking taters! I need to dig up some of mine to see what they're looking like
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/13 05:49 PM

Nice Goose up
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/13 05:51 PM

jalapeno



sweet banana



my crappy bell peppers



tomatoes and lettuce



zuccs and squash





AND WE HAVE OKRA!!!! extremely wind burnt, but still there

Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/13 06:13 PM

not gonna lie, I'm pretty jealous of ya'lls summer stuff. I was late getting mine going this year.

East, that okra is a beautiful sight

Payne, What kind of blackberries do you have. I think I'm gonna plant some this year
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/13 06:58 PM

Looking good EAST!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/13 07:25 PM

Originally Posted By: skinnerback
Looking good EAST!


Plue 1.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/13 08:25 PM

Goose, Rosborough. It's only few years old. I tore down that patch and cleared everything out and started adding plants. It shares the space with the green beans on each end, horseradish, dill, asparagus and the raspberries.
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/13 08:52 PM

Everybodys gardens are looking great up
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/13 08:55 PM

Everyone's gardens are looking great!

Blackberries(they could really use a good rain)


Easter Lily Cactus bloomed the other day


Foard County(lease cactus)


I've been giving away a lot of lettuce


Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/13 08:59 PM

Is that a bee hive?
Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/13 09:01 PM

Awesome pics AdvTx! Love those cactus blooms.
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/13 09:29 PM

Yes, just picked up a couple new hives last weekend.

Thanks Jase - I really like cactus too, I need to get out a camera and stop using my old Iphone but it's so much easier.
Posted By: janie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/13 01:19 AM

Looking great y'all. We are now up to 40 maters.
Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/13 01:36 AM

Here's my tomatoes.


The peppers


The jalapeo in the foreground exploded in new leaves a couple days ago

First blossom on the sweet pepper plant
Posted By: Hooligan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/13 03:40 AM

man you guys are making me jealous. I have a lot of size on my tomatoes but not any fruit other than 1 on my cherokee purple. All of them keep dropping buds.


My green bean seeds Payne hooked me up with are taking off though! I will try to get some pictures tomorrow
Posted By: texretvet

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/13 03:54 AM

This is what I have so far this year.

Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/13 01:13 PM

Everyone is looking good. I'll try to remember to take some this evening, My tomatoes & onions are kicking butt. Jalapeos & Okra, not so much.
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/13 02:20 PM

Jase I like the rustic look of those I want to make my mom an herb box like that.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/13 06:10 PM

So I was in the garden training the tomatoes and these little guys were calling my name...


Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/13 06:12 PM

Thats was quick up

Hope the wind in this storm doesn't snap any stalks
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/13 06:17 PM

I snapped a few training the tomatoes.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/13 06:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
I snapped a few training the tomatoes.


Same here.
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/13 06:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
So I was in the garden training the tomatoes and these little guys were calling my name...




get the cornmeal ready... I'm still several weeks from anything like that
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/13 06:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Bluegoose
Originally Posted By: Payne
So I was in the garden training the tomatoes and these little guys were calling my name...




get the cornmeal ready... I'm still several weeks from anything like that


X2
Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/13 07:51 PM

Originally Posted By: AdvTX
Jase I like the rustic look of those I want to make my mom an herb box like that.


It's just weathered fence pickets. I got these boxes from a buddy of mine who's moving soon. I have no idea how old they are. A couple of boards need to be replaced soon.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/13 09:01 PM

Hey Payne try stir frying them along with onions, bell peppers, and zucchini, then the sauce mix from twice cooked pork. The sauce has 2T hoisin, 2T soy sauce, 2T white wins, sugar and cayenne.

I did some last night and shared them with my neighbor. He called and said that it was the best vegetable dish he's ever eaten.
Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/13 11:44 PM

Woohoo! We have 5 tomatoes starting up! Just noticed them tonight.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/13 12:40 AM

Brussels Sprouts flanked by beans and spinach (and a surprise potato plant)



front to back: Hot banana peppers, Jalapenos, Habenaros



big onion



tomatoes, peperoncini's and strawberries





Cukes



Squash and Melon (from direct sow)

Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/13 01:13 AM

Lookin good phat!
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/13 02:26 AM

Looks great phat. You could make a mini greenhouse with that one set up next year
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/13 02:41 AM

Thanks guys. Everyone's plots are looking good all around.

East, I might just do that. I guess all I need is clear plastic wrap to cover over that hoop set up.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/13 10:54 AM

You could get a clear painters tarp for it. When I used to play golf in the winter, we would stop and get a knock off saran wrap roll and cover three sides of the cart.
Posted By: janie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/13 01:20 PM

Keep the pic's comin y'all. Everyone's gardens are looking great. Think last count, Bill and I were up to 40+ tomatoes.

Squash looking decent. Carrot's and onions.........

Afraid we were to late getting seeds in the soil. We'll see.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/13 01:10 PM




Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/13 02:03 PM

Looks great Kevin. If my Australian Shepherds could get into my garden, they would eat every tomato off of the vine. Your dogs must have much better discipline.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/13 02:42 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN



That's a great pic and your garden looks great.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/13 05:06 PM

Ditto!!! Your tomatoes look strong.
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/13 05:30 PM

I should go out and pick maters but i'm late for a birthday party.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/13 03:52 PM



http://www.texashuntingforum.com/forum/u...ish#Post4248998
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/13 02:35 AM

My weekend project. Still got to mulch it but ran out of energy this evening.
Before: (Didn't take a picture before I ripped out the old boxwoods)


After:


Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/13 10:44 AM

Looks great!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/13 12:34 PM

I have almost everything, but my go to spices and herbs are black pepper, garlic powder, black pepper, chili powder, and cayenne pepper. I use a good bit of the flaked onions.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 01:10 PM

Went by uncles yesterday, my jaw dropped when I saw this...







His tomatoes are huge



His neighbors corn & squash



neighbors corn, squash, green beans & tomatoes



other neighbors berries

Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 01:34 PM

flehan
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 01:40 PM

I know, I said a few choice words when I walked back there.

I came home with carrots, zucchinis, tomatoes, green beans and carrots.

Winter squash



zucchinis



Posted By: PriddyTxHunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 02:07 PM

We got 6" of rain Friday, and it flooded the garden with corn and red potatoes. I noticed yesterday some of the plants were starting to die so pulled one up and all of the potatoes were water logged and mushy from all the water. I'm hoping it didn't ruin all of them. Guess I'll wait a few days to check the other ones and see how they look. Corn seems to be ok.

Everything else is in another garden that sits a little higher and is doing great. We have several hundred tomatoes on the plants, with a few hundred more blooms.
Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 03:05 PM

Priddy, what do you do with all of those tomatoes? My wife and I are a little worried that we won't be able to use the ones we're growing before they go bad.
Posted By: Big Tony

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 03:14 PM

Make your own Ketchup and Tomato Sauce, or Tomato Juice. Google things made from Tomatoes. The ideas are endless.
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 03:28 PM

Uncles garden is doing amazing!
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 03:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Jase
Priddy, what do you do with all of those tomatoes? My wife and I are a little worried that we won't be able to use the ones we're growing before they go bad.


Hot sauce, lots & lots of hot sauce.
Posted By: BnT

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 03:40 PM

I didn't get a chance to start my garden this year. frown
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 03:42 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Hot sauce, lots & lots of hot sauce.


this
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 04:04 PM

I can a lot of salsa, here's the recipe I use


30 tomatoes peeled and chopped

2 green bell peppers

2 red bell peppers

10 cups of chopped onions

10 cloves of garlic

4-5 banana peppers

1 cup of chopped jalapenos ( you can use more or less, depends on your taste)

1/4 to 1/2 cup of sugar (you can use less or none)

2 cups of vinegar

8 teaspoons of pickling salt

2 teaspoons black pepper

2 large cans of tomato paste

Simmer 1.5 hours stirring often, at the end of the cooking time add half a bunch of cilantro

Process pint jars for 35 minutes and quart jars for 45 minutes.

Makes 17 pints.
Posted By: BnT

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 04:16 PM

Gonna have to try this recipe out.
Posted By: PriddyTxHunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 06:24 PM

Originally Posted By: Jase
Priddy, what do you do with all of those tomatoes? My wife and I are a little worried that we won't be able to use the ones we're growing before they go bad.


This is our first year to have that many. We will use some and give some to a couple of family members, but mainly use them to make salsa. We use salsa often and ran out way too early last year, so hoping we can make more this year.
Posted By: PriddyTxHunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 06:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
I can a lot of salsa, here's the recipe I use


30 tomatoes peeled and chopped

2 green bell peppers

2 red bell peppers

10 cups of chopped onions

10 cloves of garlic

4-5 banana peppers

1 cup of chopped jalapenos ( you can use more or less, depends on your taste)

1/4 to 1/2 cup of sugar (you can use less or none)

2 cups of vinegar

8 teaspoons of pickling salt

2 teaspoons black pepper

2 large cans of tomato paste

Simmer 1.5 hours stirring often, at the end of the cooking time add half a bunch of cilantro

Process pint jars for 35 minutes and quart jars for 45 minutes.

Makes 17 pints.


Payne I'm no expert and have only made salsa a few times, but I was told you need to add lemon juice to the salsa to make it last longer, any truth to this???? I think it had to do with tomatoes being low acid and needing the acid from lemons to help the shelf life or something like that. Like I said, not an expert, just something I was told.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 07:33 PM

My recipe is about the same. I make mine up in 8 pint batches. I don't use nearly as much vinegar, and only use jalapenos peppers. I scald and skin my tomatoes, then cut the stem 1/3 or so off and squeeze out most of the seeds, and pulp.I only cook mine about 30 minutes, adding the tomato paste at the end. I've found that celantro looses it taste when cooked. I leave it out. Here's my makings.

Posted By: BnT

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 07:35 PM

Originally Posted By: PriddyTxHunter

Payne I'm no expert and have only made salsa a few times, but I was told you need to add lemon juice to the salsa to make it last longer, any truth to this???? I think it had to do with tomatoes being low acid and needing the acid from lemons to help the shelf life or something like that. Like I said, not an expert, just something I was told.


I believe vinegar does the same thing as lemon juice. Tomatoes are high acid also. Lemon juice is just a perserver. Like adding it and the advocado pit to guac to extend life.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/519283-what-type-of-acid-is-in-tomatoes/
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 07:52 PM

Priddy vinegar plus the low acidic veggies & high acidic veggies offset. If you have more questions I'll be back on a computer in a little while. If you are canning the best info is the blue book of canning.

here's part of my usual batch.

Originally Posted By: Payne








Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 07:59 PM



figs



Plums



Blackberries



Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 08:00 PM

rofl
Posted By: PriddyTxHunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 08:14 PM

We were happy with the way ours turned out last year, I was just curious about the lemon juice.

Here is a batch of ours from last year.




We also like to make some pickles.





And of course some jalapenos!






Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 08:18 PM

Wow! This will be my first year canning. Looks like a lot of work.

I already have the cooker and all that, where is the best place to buy the jars and lids in bulk?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 08:24 PM

Priddy, you need to go into business.

Payne, I see that you changed to straignt neck yellow swuash this year.

I already gave out my recipe for stir frying squash, etc with the twice cooked pork sauce. Another good way to stir fry is simply to add salsa to your stir fry when it's almost done.
Posted By: PriddyTxHunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 08:32 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Priddy, you need to go into business.



Naw, we just like jalapenos, and we enjoy making everything, plus we give some to friends when they come over.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 08:34 PM

Priddy disregard anything I ever said about canning to you flehan
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 08:36 PM

Bill the crookneck got knocked out by the last frost, I went all straight neck.


What's your recipe for salsa?
Posted By: PriddyTxHunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 08:36 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Wow! This will be my first year canning. Looks like a lot of work.

I already have the cooker and all that, where is the best place to buy the jars and lids in bulk?


It's not too bad, my wife and I kind of have a little system that works good for us.

All the stores in Sealy sell jars and lids, Ace Hardware, Wal-Mart and even the feed store. I just keep an eye out for who has them cheapest and get them there. I'm sure you could buy in bulk but I haven't looked, might be worthwhile. We also tell friends when we give them some, as long as they return the jar we'll give them some next time. Several friends keep an eye out for us when they see a deal on some too.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 08:37 PM

How long did it take to do all those japs?
Posted By: PriddyTxHunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 08:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Priddy disregard anything I ever said about canning to you flehan


No please, I'll take all the advice I can get. Last year was our first year to can and we really enjoyed it, but I'm sure there is plenty more we can learn.
Posted By: PriddyTxHunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 08:48 PM

Originally Posted By: East
How long did it take to do all those japs?


In all honesty, not too long, I'm thinking a couple of hours, maybe a little longer. The longest part of it was cutting the jalapenos, and the carrots and onions we mixed in with it. Once that was done, it was just a matter of prepping the jars. It's really not too bad.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 08:56 PM

Originally Posted By: PriddyTxHunter
No please, I'll take all the advice I can get. Last year was our first year to can and we really enjoyed it, but I'm sure there is plenty more we can learn.



Do you have the blue book?
Posted By: PriddyTxHunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 09:05 PM

No, I hadn't heard of it until you mentioned it. I plan to get it.
Posted By: PriddyTxHunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 09:16 PM

Is this the blue book you are referring to?

Ball Blue Book Guide to Preserving
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 09:17 PM

That's the one,It's a great book for canning.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 09:40 PM

I freeze more than I can. I make marinara about the same way I make my salsa. I freeze that,as well as stuffed peppers and creole sauce.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/13 11:28 PM

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 12:01 AM

That's a great video Skeeter, but I promise you it will seperate without some tomato paste, maybe less depending on how well he seeded the tomatoes.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 03:16 AM

Hey East, how are your strawberries doing? Mine appear to be in a constant struggle for life.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 03:19 AM

They seem to be alright. They grow as quick as the birds can eat them, I really need to cover them. I looked at them tonight and should have 5-6 ready to pick tomorrow. But the plants themselves haven't put on much size
Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 10:47 AM

Originally Posted By: East
They seem to be alright. They grow as quick as the birds can eat them, I really need to cover them. I looked at them tonight and should have 5-6 ready to pick tomorrow. But the plants themselves haven't put on much size


My plants have finally started to grow a bit. The birds love the tiny berries when they start growing too. I'm planning to make a cover for them this weekend.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 01:09 PM

I'm doing the same this weekend, for strawberries and tomatoes.
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 01:35 PM

What is this?


Can't remember the names but we put in 4 kinds of strawberries for different blooming times.

Posted By: PriddyTxHunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 02:15 PM

I was afraid of this. The 6" of rain from Friday flooded the garden with corn and potatoes. Corn is doing fine, but the potato plants were dying so we pulled them up last night.

These were the good ones we got.




And these were the bad ones, they were all mushy like mashed potatoes. Probably threw close to 300 away. Was not very happy but what can you do.

Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 02:26 PM

That sucks Priddy. Hate to see that.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 02:51 PM

Man hate to hear that
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 02:55 PM

rofl
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 03:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Jase
Originally Posted By: East
They seem to be alright. They grow as quick as the birds can eat them, I really need to cover them. I looked at them tonight and should have 5-6 ready to pick tomorrow. But the plants themselves haven't put on much size


My plants have finally started to grow a bit. The birds love the tiny berries when they start growing too. I'm planning to make a cover for them this weekend.


I'm really starting to hate the birds in my yard. They are TERRORIZING my tomatoes! I bought three big fake owls & they apparently don't work. Really ticking me off mad......I heard that strips of flashy milar work, gonna try that next.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 03:02 PM

Try old cd's on fishing line.

Adv what kind of plant is that?
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 03:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Try old cd's on fishing line.

Adv what kind of plant is that?


I'll try that Payne...
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 03:15 PM

It's an Oleander that I cut way back this spring
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 03:17 PM

I'm looking for my bug book, don't know where I left it...
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 03:22 PM

oleander scale


use horticultural oil 3 times in 6 week intervals
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 03:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Try old cd's on fishing line.

Adv what kind of plant is that?


Worked pretty good for me last year, just looks a little Redneckish, I didn't lose many to birds if I picked them just as they start to turn red.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 03:58 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Originally Posted By: Payne
Try old cd's on fishing line.

Adv what kind of plant is that?


Worked pretty good for me last year, just looks a little Redneckish, I didn't lose many to birds if I picked them just as they start to turn red.


They're poking holes in my green tomatoes too & every one of my tomatoes that start to turn red. None of them so far have made it to being ripe before the tomatoe peckers got them.
Posted By: FFF21

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 07:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
I can a lot of salsa, here's the recipe I use


30 tomatoes peeled and chopped

2 green bell peppers

2 red bell peppers

10 cups of chopped onions

10 cloves of garlic

4-5 banana peppers

1 cup of chopped jalapenos ( you can use more or less, depends on your taste)

1/4 to 1/2 cup of sugar (you can use less or none)

2 cups of vinegar

8 teaspoons of pickling salt

2 teaspoons black pepper

2 large cans of tomato paste

Simmer 1.5 hours stirring often, at the end of the cooking time add half a bunch of cilantro

Process pint jars for 35 minutes and quart jars for 45 minutes.

Makes 17 pints.


Payne, I'm a little green. What do you mean by process 35 or 45 mins?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 07:20 PM

How much time they are in the water for canning
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 07:22 PM

I staked & trained(again) my tomatoes today.




Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 08:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
How much time they are in the water for canning


I keep mine in there about 30 minutes. I'm now on my last pint from last year. It should last until my middle crop of tomatoes are in. My bottom crop is just turning ripe. i pick them at first blush.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 08:31 PM

I have small submersible magnetic digital timers that I put on the lids so that I won't be a second early or a second late...
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 08:34 PM

QUESTION: If I start picking my tomatoes as soon as they start to change color (first blush?) and let them ripen on the kitchen counter, will they taste just as good as they do if they ripen on the vine?
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 08:40 PM

Originally Posted By: skinnerback
QUESTION: If I start picking my tomatoes as soon as they start to change color (first blush?) and let them ripen on the kitchen counter, will they taste just as good as they do if they ripen on the vine?


Mine always do and don't get that mealy taste...I also find that it tends to take the stress off the plant and more blooms set tomatoes

Just my 2 cents
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 08:43 PM

Originally Posted By: takewhatyoucan64
Originally Posted By: skinnerback
QUESTION: If I start picking my tomatoes as soon as they start to change color (first blush?) and let them ripen on the kitchen counter, will they taste just as good as they do if they ripen on the vine?


Mine always do and don't get that mealy taste...I also find that it tends to take the stress off the plant and more blooms set tomatoes

Just my 2 cents


Thanks. I'm just looking at different ways to save them from the birds.....
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 08:48 PM

If you can put them in a South facing window.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 08:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
If you can put them in a South facing window.


scratch So guessing they still need sun to properly ripen? Why not East or West?
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 08:53 PM

I dont wanna be involved in this, thank you
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 08:55 PM

Originally Posted By: East
I dont wanna be involved in this, thank you


Probly best buddy, we don't need anybody choking tomatoes around here. grin
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 08:59 PM

You can put them in a sunny window or you can wrap them in newspaper and put them in a box or you can put them in a paper bag with a ripe apple to get them to ripen.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 09:19 PM

Originally Posted By: skinnerback
Originally Posted By: East
I dont wanna be involved in this, thank you


Probly best buddy, we don't need anybody choking tomatoes around here. grin



You mean like choking that trout in your sig?
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 09:23 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
Originally Posted By: skinnerback
Originally Posted By: East
I dont wanna be involved in this, thank you


Probly best buddy, we don't need anybody choking tomatoes around here. grin



You mean like choking that trout in your sig?


banana
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 09:41 PM

Originally Posted By: takewhatyoucan64
Originally Posted By: skinnerback
QUESTION: If I start picking my tomatoes as soon as they start to change color (first blush?) and let them ripen on the kitchen counter, will they taste just as good as they do if they ripen on the vine?


Mine always do and don't get that mealy taste...I also find that it tends to take the stress off the plant and more blooms set tomatoes

Just my 2 cents


You can't tell the difference.

Also, I got a little concerned after reading about your potatoes going bad in the ground, and dug up three hills which had died on top. I got around 10 pounds of very good red potatoes. My California whites are lush. I haven't dug any of them yet.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/13 09:46 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: takewhatyoucan64
Originally Posted By: skinnerback
QUESTION: If I start picking my tomatoes as soon as they start to change color (first blush?) and let them ripen on the kitchen counter, will they taste just as good as they do if they ripen on the vine?


Mine always do and don't get that mealy taste...I also find that it tends to take the stress off the plant and more blooms set tomatoes

Just my 2 cents


You can't tell the difference.

Also, I got a little concerned after reading about your potatoes going bad in the ground, and dug up three hills which had died on top. I got around 10 pounds of very good red potatoes. My California whites are lush. I haven't dug any of them yet.


All I know is they taste 10 times better than a store tomato and we like them firm and the plants tend to make bigger ones and more of them by getting some off(May all be in my mind) grin...so it works for us
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/13 01:09 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
Originally Posted By: skinnerback
Originally Posted By: East
I dont wanna be involved in this, thank you


Probly best buddy, we don't need anybody choking tomatoes around here. grin



You mean like choking that trout in your sig?


Negative. That is not a choke.
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/13 04:35 PM

Originally Posted By: skinnerback
Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Originally Posted By: Payne
Try old cd's on fishing line.

Adv what kind of plant is that?


Worked pretty good for me last year, just looks a little Redneckish, I didn't lose many to birds if I picked them just as they start to turn red.


They're poking holes in my green tomatoes too & every one of my tomatoes that start to turn red. None of them so far have made it to being ripe before the tomatoe peckers got them.


So far i've let all mine vine ripen with only one hole early on in a very green one.These are on our deck so I guess that's the reason. After seeing all the raised beds maybe i'll do one of those early next year and put my patio tomatoes in it along with other vegetables.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/13 05:45 PM

have any of y'all had any luck with wild tomatoes? I guess that's what you would call them, I had one come up in my onions, so I transplanted it to a better location & it's growing pretty good, I guess it came from a seed from last years tomatoes.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/13 06:29 PM

I had several volunteer plants last year and they did very well. I have seen none sprouting this year except for basil.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/13 08:17 PM

I put my tomatoes in the kitchen window to ripen. You can tell by the bad lighting in this picture that it is a north facing window and out of the sun.

Posted By: Kyle Campbell

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/13 02:14 PM

I have a question for you guys...

My patio tomato plants are starting to produce a few tomatoes. I've read that picking them early encourages production, but do I just start picking all of them right now or am I supposed to just do one or two at a time?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/13 03:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Tech03
I have a question for you guys...

My patio tomato plants are starting to produce a few tomatoes. I've read that picking them early encourages production, but do I just start picking all of them right now or am I supposed to just do one or two at a time?


Pick all of them at first blush.
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/13 03:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Tech03
I have a question for you guys...

My patio tomato plants are starting to produce a few tomatoes. I've read that picking them early encourages production, but do I just start picking all of them right now or am I supposed to just do one or two at a time?

I let mine ripen on the vine as long as the birds leave them alone and they are still nice and firm.





Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/13 02:43 AM

Noticed that I have a bunch of tiny ants in my garden. About half the size of firs ants. They are crawling all over the plants and blossoms.

Ay guesses about what type of ant? Will they damage the growths?
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/13 10:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Jase
Noticed that I have a bunch of tiny ants in my garden. About half the size of firs ants. They are crawling all over the plants and blossoms.

Ay guesses about what type of ant? Will they damage the growths?


definitely some kind of new ant running around all over the place here. Little black crazy things and they are everywhere and I haven't figured out what to kill them with yet.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/13 04:11 PM

Mix 2 ounces of orange oil with one gallon of water and pour on the mound.
Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/13 06:06 PM

No mound that I can see. They just seem to be all over. Will that stuff hurt my plants? Im in a raised bed.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/13 07:32 PM

No. Howard Garrett recommends adding it to his Garrett Juice which is meant to be sprayed directly onto the plants.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/13 02:42 PM







Damn squirrels stole all my ripe plums mad
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/13 03:30 PM

Good looking squash. I see that you went to srteightneck this year. What do you do with all your squash? I can only eat one a day, if I eat squash everyday.

Lete's see some recipes, or ar least cooking ideas from some of you gardeners. I have more than I can eat or put up. I gave away a basket of vegetables yesterday. I even gave a couple of my slicer tomatoes away.

I'm making a Frito salad with my steak tonight. It seems as if something comes out of home grown tomatoes to enhance the Catalina dressing on a Frito salad. You just make up a garden salad with iceberg lettuce, then add grated chadder, red kidney beans, crushed Frito, and then toss it with Catalina dressing.
Posted By: LoneStarSon

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/13 05:55 PM

Yesterday's harvest: 5 yellow squash, 3 zucchini squash, 5 Carmen peppers.




Today's harvest 2 Spanish Spice Peppers, 9 yellow squash, 11 Carmen Peppers, 19 Serrano Peppers.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/13 08:36 PM

I give away alot of the squash. I was bbqing today so I cut some in half and put of pepper & seasoning salt and cooked them with the sausage.

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/13 09:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
I give away alot of the squash. I was bbqing today so I cut some in half and put of pepper & seasoning salt and cooked them with the sausage.






How many people do you feed?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/13 09:43 PM

I give away a lot of food also, it's just me and the dogs. They eat well for being dogs.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/13 10:04 PM

Payne, try this some time. Slice the zucchini just like you did. Brush on olive oil. Sprinkle dill and garlic salt on the squash and grill until there are grill marks. Yum.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/13 10:10 PM

I didn't have any zucc's or I would have mixed the two & onions and seasoned with salt, pepper and butter then wrap in aluminum foil then grill.

That's the go to for me but I'll try that next time. Thanks
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/13 11:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne






Damn squirrels stole all my ripe plums mad


I admire your prunning shears as much as I do your squash. I need a new pair. (I don't know why only one is called a pair) Do yours have a brand name?
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/13 11:49 PM

Nice haul! This wind is really beating up my plants.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/13 12:02 AM




Fiskars
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/13 04:28 AM

Nice harvest everyone!

This is Zo and our neighbor Levi getting the first ones of the year.



Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/13 12:18 PM

Cute kid!
Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/13 12:52 PM

Looks good. We don't have anything close to harvesting yet. Looking last night we have 9 tomatoes growing and a couple of sweet peppers just starting to grow.

The bell peppers and jalapeno plants both look like they are about ready to blossom out.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/13 01:14 PM

Just some progress pics from yesterday. Not much to harvest yet, a few sweet peppers, few onions, and some green beans. All the jalapeno plants are blooming as well.



Green beans are starting to pole



Good guest



Beans look good, but I need to get some BT on the garden



Humming bird vines



Blackberries

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/13 01:28 PM

A person should never underestimate his influence. I made one negative reply about yellow crooked-neck squash last year, and everyone this year seems to have gone to straight-neck yellow squash. They look great East.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/13 01:31 PM

Is was the way you said it Bill

looks good East
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/13 01:32 PM

Looking good fellas! I need to take some more pics, I've picked a basket of tomatoes already....decided to start picking them at first blush. Corn, beans, squash, cucumbers, & watermelon is growing.....
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/13 01:35 PM

Looking good everyone. Only thing I have harvested has been a few onions. I have several tomatoes that will ripen soon though & my peppers & Okra are starting to look pretty good now too.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/13 01:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Is was the way you said it Bill


They look better on the grill. I bought some started plants.
all they had was crooked-neck. I later found some seeds, and now have straight-necked plants.
Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/13 03:21 PM

Watermelons.... too late to get them in the ground?
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/13 03:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Brandon A
Watermelons.... too late to get them in the ground?


You will never know if you don't try.
Posted By: LoneStarSon

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/13 03:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Brandon A
Watermelons.... too late to get them in the ground?
You can start harvesting several varieties after 85 days in the ground, so no, it's not too late. Just remember they like the water.
Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/13 03:48 PM

Originally Posted By: LoneStarSon
Originally Posted By: Brandon A
Watermelons.... too late to get them in the ground?
You can start harvesting several varieties after 85 days in the ground, so no, it's not too late. Just remember they like the water.


I can do that. Water is free where I live and the miss lady will be home all summer to water them for me lol.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/13 04:41 PM

Posted By: Kyle Campbell

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/13 04:53 PM

Good lookin haul, Payne!
Posted By: BnT

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/13 04:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne


I need a guinness and and harp bush.... where'd you find one?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/13 04:57 PM

I have no idea, someone sent me a sampler six pack for Christmas.
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/13 04:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Tech03
Good lookin haul, Payne!
Posted By: BnT

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/13 04:58 PM

Those beans look fantastic.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/13 04:59 PM

Good haul man up

Jealous
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/13 05:07 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Good haul man up

Jealous
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/13 06:05 PM

Spent some time last weekend and turned this..


into this...


put up 49 half pint jars
Posted By: BnT

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/13 06:07 PM

WOW!, Nice goose!
Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/13 06:07 PM

are those dewberries blue?
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/13 06:11 PM

got about 30lbs. from a 15ft. short row, have about 80ft. left to dig


Pulled my onions as well


Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/13 06:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Brandon A
are those dewberries blue?


blackberries
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/13 06:14 PM

corn is looking good


Finally getting some squash and zucchini



tomatos are coming along as well
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/13 06:17 PM

everything looking great Blue up
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/13 06:20 PM

Outstanding BG
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/13 06:28 PM

Healthy looking garden there! Looking great!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/13 06:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Outstanding BG


Looks more like what we called a truck garden when I was growing up.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/13 06:32 PM

That's good to know.....
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/13 06:36 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: Payne
Outstanding BG


Looks more like what we called a truck garden when I was growing up.


What's a truck garden?
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/13 06:49 PM

Thanks guys...

Originally Posted By: East
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: Payne
Outstanding BG


Looks more like what we called a truck garden when I was growing up.


What's a truck garden?


I'm guessing it's a garden big enough to sell produce off of a truck confused2
Posted By: Kyle Campbell

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/13 08:56 PM

So are you supposed to pull onions when the end tips turn brown or when they have completely fallen over and look almost dead?
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/13 09:37 PM

I pull em when they fall over
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/13 09:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Tech03
So are you supposed to pull onions when the end tips turn brown or when they have completely fallen over and look almost dead?


It's my understanding that they are still putting on rings as long as they are standing. I'll use what I need, but I leave them in the ground until the stalk falls over. They seem to keep longer in the ground, especially if it's dry. Same with potatoes.

Also, you can Google truck farm, or garden. It's a small produce farm.
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/13 10:13 PM

WOW Goose!!! Looking great! I'm about to pull out the onions and make blackberry cobbler
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/13 10:29 PM

I've never made blackberry cobbler from onions. laugh
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/13 11:23 PM

Dump cakes are easier. I made a couple today from my neighbor's peaches. I'm having some tonight with icecream. I'm not looking at that guy's thread about 1,000 calories.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/13 05:43 PM

Bluegoose,

How old are those blackberry plants?

Do you do a soil test for your garden?

Thanks
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/13 10:12 PM

I don't understand planting and growing blackberries, when dewberries are free, but then again I've never tasted domestic blackberries.
Posted By: FFF21

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/13 11:00 PM

My dewberries are hard to beat. Had some in my cereal this morning matter of fact.
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/13 03:42 PM

You must all forgive me and my East Texas self. Everything around these parts is a "blackberry". I picked and used wild dewberries(thanks google) so BrandonA was correct.

Payne, I dont soil test my garden. I just fertilize everything with 10-20-10 once it hits a certain growth stage
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/13 09:00 PM

Looks like you got it under control. Very Impressive.
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/13 08:27 PM

Thank you sir!
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/13 08:29 PM

Still no ripe tomatoes but getting close. I pulled about half of my Onions, (probably more like 3/4 of them) they aren't as big as I would have liked but still the best I've done with onions, they fell over almost two weeks ago, it was time to pull these. maybe the ones I still have in the ground will get a little bigger, the stalks are still standing on them.





Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/13 08:32 PM





Moon plant flower.




Moon plant I dug up for East & Barmaid.

Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/13 08:38 PM





Our Weeping Willow that we planted 4 years ago. It was about 6' tall when we planted it.



my Dad's little raised Garden.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/13 08:48 PM

Looks great CC
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/13 09:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Looks great CC


Ditto! Looks a little ahead of the time in your area.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/13 09:17 PM

Damn kev. Looks great!

Alright so I had time to kill yesterday morning before a BBQ. I was watching mockingbirds fight over my baby tomatoes and decided to take action. Total investment was about 60 bucks including netting. After season it will be transformed into a run for a chicken coop. Took about 3-4 hrs including beer breaks







And today's harvest. Fixing to be overrun

Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/13 09:24 PM

Foxy told me to post this one

Posted By: whiteowl

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/13 10:09 PM

Anyone got a good way to put cabbage up? All of mine need to be pulled before they get any bigger or I am afraid they will be tough. Ussually make chow chow but have plenty left and not many green tomatoes anyway.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/13 11:05 PM

sauerkraut



East that looks BA
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/13 11:13 PM

Gardens are looking good guys. Unfortunatly for me, work has me traveling all Summer and I only have the onions I planted early on. I gave all my plants I had away with the hope I can recieve a few maters and peppers when I am home. Im going to try a fall garden and see what it yields if I am back home by then. The grasshoppers are bad already here, it would have been a battle.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/13 12:14 AM

Originally Posted By: whiteowl
Anyone got a good way to put cabbage up? All of mine need to be pulled before they get any bigger or I am afraid they will be tough. Ussually make chow chow but have plenty left and not many green tomatoes anyway.


I've mentioned chow-chow several times on this forum over the years. I love it. I make mine with green tomatoes, bell peppers, onions, and jalapenos. I add suger and salt, then bring it to a boil in vinegar. The jars always seal. You can add cabbage or squash to this recipe.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/13 02:56 AM

East, good looking bird cover!

I'm going to get a pressure cooker for canning from my grandmother this weekend and begin tinkering with canning. You guys have inspired me!
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/13 03:19 AM

I like that cover East. I need to do something like that.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/13 12:28 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Damn kev. Looks great!

Alright so I had time to kill yesterday morning before a BBQ. I was watching mockingbirds fight over my baby tomatoes and decided to take action. Total investment was about 60 bucks including netting. After season it will be transformed into a run for a chicken coop. Took about 3-4 hrs including beer breaks







And today's harvest. Fixing to be overrun



This loooks great. Let's put it on the next page.
Posted By: whiteowl

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/13 07:02 PM

Payne or anyone else got a good sauerkraut recipe?
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/13 07:09 PM

http://www.sauerkrautrecipes.com/
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/13 09:20 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22


I saw a bunch of sauerkraut dishes, but no sauerkraut recipes on the link.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/13 09:52 PM

Try this instead.




Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/13 10:20 PM

Originally Posted By: whiteowl
Payne or anyone else got a good sauerkraut recipe?


It's pretty simple. Water,cabbage, salt & dill then fermentation. Those jars were put up on Good Friday. If you want to discuss it pm me.



Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: skeeter22


I saw a bunch of sauerkraut dishes, but no sauerkraut recipes on the link.


So annoying trout
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/13 12:36 AM

Hey east Texas boys. I have japs that will be ready in a week. And sweet peppers bursting everyday but my bell peppers haven't bloomed. When should I expect them?
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/13 12:38 AM

Oh and thanks Bill. I think it will help keep the birds out plus end up being useful in the future. If you could have chickens and tomatoes in the same place I would convert it right now
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/13 12:58 AM

I eat a lot of thing from my garden that I never have or would buy from a store. I do not remember ever buying turnips, squash, or even cucumbers.
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/13 02:43 PM

East that looks great sometimes I think about enclosing my whole garden. Just got back from a 3 day trip to the Brazos river and came home to loads of blackberries our Jerusalem thorn tree blooming and lots of black-eyed susans.







Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/13 02:47 PM

Here are a few pictures of Skeeter22's garden he asked me to post.




Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/13 03:03 PM

Skeeter that is a BIG good looking garden!!!!
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/13 03:04 PM

Thanks, AdvTX.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/13 03:22 PM

Looks great Skeeter
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/13 03:30 PM

Thanks, East. When you have a teenage son, you need a lot of groceries. The last photo is a luffa squash. I'm meeting CCBIRDDOGMAN to give him some plants this week. Rumor has it that if you bring plenty of beer this weekend for the juggin' trip, he MIGHT share with you.
Posted By: BnT

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/13 03:33 PM

Mouth is watering....
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/13 05:56 PM

You guys really have some heathy looking tomato plants.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/13 06:42 PM

my tomatoes look like chit. My cilantro is growing redicously fast and corn is standing 8 inches tall after 10 days...

waiting on jalapenos to start producing. we had several late freezes, so I planted everything on may 15th or so.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/13 07:19 PM

Nice set up Skeeter

Today's harvest. First cucumbers & purple bell peppers.



Damn squirrels/birds stripped every plum off of one of my Santa Rosa's. flame
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/13 07:21 PM

Skeeter, thats a nice backyard garden.

East, I'm in Nac county and none of my peppers have anything on them yet. I cant think of any reason why all of yours except the bells are producing. oh and that bird cover looks nice
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/13 07:22 PM

Great harvest man. Looking good

So the scare crow didnt work?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/13 07:24 PM

I don't want to talk about it.............


mad mad mad mad mad
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/13 07:29 PM

It was prob the hat bolt
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/13 07:29 PM

the scarecrow just gave them a place to sit I imagine... nice harvest Payne
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/13 07:30 PM

Thanks goose

East how much is bacon at the store?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/13 09:03 PM

You guys with cucumbers can make Ziploc pickles. It's they taste a lot like deli pickles. It's easy. You just pack a strong one gallon Ziploc bag with dill, a few garlic cloves, 4 jalapenos, and 18 to 24 cucumbers. Make a brine of 2 pints water, 1 pint white vinegar, and a half cup salt. Let the brine cool to lukewarm, and pour over the cucumbers. Let it set on the counter overnight, or until the cucumbers change color, then refrigerate.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/13 10:28 PM

Sounds interesting, Bill. How long will they last? (I know, until they're all gone)
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/13 11:36 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
Sounds interesting, Bill. How long will they last? (I know, until they're all gone)


I don't really know. It depends on the number of pickle eaters you have in your house.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/13 02:31 PM

Todays harvest

Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/13 03:42 PM

Squash looks like its doing good up
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/13 04:00 PM

Thanks

The tomatoes, squash cucumbers and bell peppers are loaded. I should be busy in the next couple of weeks.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/13 05:16 PM

Looks like the pocket gophers have found my tomato garden. mad My tomato plants are going down hill fast. I ran gopher traps Sunday evening and all day Monday, ended up with six of them but the damage was apparently already done.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/13 05:46 PM

That sucks!! I have moles in my area, they tunnel all around my Garden but I haven't noticed any damage to any of my plants yet.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/13 09:57 PM

Hey Phat have you put any MG on your strawberries?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/13 11:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Thanks

The tomatoes, squash cucumbers and bell peppers are loaded. I should be busy in the next couple of weeks.
My daughter is here for the summer. She's gone to Austin for the weekend to visit a friend from law school. I sent two plastic grocery sacks of vegetables with her. I'm still loaded. I guess I'll start putting some up tomorrow. My tomatoes are behind my basil. I plan to freeze some basil to make marinara later.

Does anyone know the best way to freeze herbs?
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/13 11:57 PM

I don't know anything about freezing herbs, but there are plenty of youtube videos that show you how to dry them for use later.
Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/13 10:50 AM

We picked our first strawberry last night. It was small and kind of deformed but it tasted great!

We have a ton of tomatoes growing and the peppers are now blossoming everywhere.
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/13 01:32 PM

Great harvest Payne beautiful squash I wish I lived close by smile

Last night we blended blackberries strained out the seeds and made Mojitos with fresh mint.

Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/13 01:39 PM

up
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/13 01:44 PM

Nice!!!!! Adv
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/13 02:53 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
I don't know anything about freezing herbs, but there are plenty of youtube videos that show you how to dry them for use later.


I just finished. I stripped of a colander of leaves and put them in the food processor with some tomatoes, then blanched them. It'll be enough for all the marinara I plan to make. The squash bores are really into my squash and zucchini really big time. I plan to cube some of them and freeze them the same way for my marinara primavera.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/13 03:25 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: skeeter22
I don't know anything about freezing herbs, but there are plenty of youtube videos that show you how to dry them for use later.


I just finished. I stripped of a colander of leaves and put them in the food processor with some tomatoes, then blanched them. It'll be enough for all the marinara I plan to make. The squash bores are really into my squash and zucchini really big time. I plan to cube some of them and freeze them the same way for my marinara primavera.



Bay Leaves seemed to have done the trick for me this year on keeping the squash bores gone......Learned the trick from the dirt doctor Howard Garrett.....or could be all the coffee grounds grin Either way Ive never had such good looking squash plants
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/13 03:46 PM

How do you use the bay leaves?
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/13 04:01 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
How do you use the bay leaves?



crushed up and worked into the soil lightly when I planted them
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/13 04:04 PM

Originally Posted By: takewhatyoucan64
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
How do you use the bay leaves?



crushed up and worked into the soil lightly when I planted them


I will have to remember this. My sister has a bay laurel tree and I can get a ton of leaves. Thanks, TWYC64.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/13 04:12 PM

yep Skeeter.......we had access to one also thankfully
Posted By: whiteowl

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/13 04:45 PM

What's with the coffee grounds?
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/13 04:50 PM

http://www.ehow.com/info_8056264_coffee-grounds-good-vegetable-garden.html
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/01/13 01:49 AM

Originally Posted By: East
Hey Phat have you put any MG on your strawberries?


No, I try not to use that stuff (I don't really know why) I use fish oil and some organic mix....I've been thinking about going to Miracle Grow but really wanted to stay organic. The strawberries are doing better since last time I mentioned them.
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/13 01:06 PM

We had 3 chickens go Broody(they lay on unfertilized eggs) so I went and picked up a dozen fertilized eggs in Ennis and put them under them and 3 hatched out yesterday morning I was very surprised.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/13 01:10 PM

Nice! RIR's?
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/13 01:39 PM

1 Australorp, 1 White Rock, 1 RIR it will be interesting to see if any of them are roosters and if the other 9 hatch
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/13 02:21 PM

The pint jar is there for a size comparision. I'm now making a marinated salad. I can't get any help from the recipes forum. Anyone have any new ideas?

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/13 02:24 PM

Nice bell Bill

Do your dogs get along with flathead?
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/13 02:48 PM

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/rachael-ray/black-bean-and-corn-salad-recipe/index.htm


Bill, here is a recipe
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/13 03:01 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/rachael-ray/black-bean-and-corn-salad-recipe/index.htm


Bill, here is a recipe

Just finished. I may have to tweak it a bit.








Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/13 09:23 PM

first time this peach tree has produced (actually planted last fall) ... it is loaded with peaches (as you can tell from the below photo) ... it's been years since we have had a peach tree, how do you know when to start harvesting? When they start to get soft? Or should I pick a few and let ripen on the counter?

and ... for future reference, should we have removed some of the fruit early on (pruning) to help the rest get bigger?

Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/13 09:24 PM

great looking salad & bell pepper you have there Bill!!!
Posted By: BnT

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/13 09:40 PM

I always thought a gentle tug should remove the fruit if it doesn't it isn't ready. Could be wrong though.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/13 09:41 PM

Nice tree PMK, what kind is it?

Harvest them when they are firm and pretty much red with a little yelow.

Thin them out to six inches or so when they start blooming.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/13 09:41 PM

pick those peaches NOW grin


they are done
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/13 09:49 PM

Originally Posted By: takewhatyoucan64
pick those peaches NOW grin


they are done


This is true
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/13 09:58 PM

PEACHES......good rule of thumb is next year when the peaches start coming on is about a fist apart for each peach


Good looking harvest up
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/13 10:00 PM

Wow! That tree is loaded.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/13 10:00 PM

You are making this way too simple up
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/13 11:33 PM

I spent my summers working in my uncles peach orchard. You're in good shape with your peaches. They could have been thinned, but don't study about that. They look great. Pick them as needed or pick a bunch and let them ripen inside.

Try this peel and stew up a little over a quart of them with maybe a half cup of sugar. Pour the stewed peaches in a 13 by 9 inch pyrex or two pie pans. Dump a box of yellow cake mix over the peaches, then 1 cup of pecans. Bake for around 30 minutes at whatever.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/13 02:48 AM

Need some green bean help...... Plants look great, been picking a steady amount for about 3-4 weeks. Just fhis week, they just shut off. i see very few beans growjng, nothing close to what theyve been producing. whats up? they look healthy, no bugs, same amount of water and sunshine. could they be done? or just flatlining for a bit? This is my first time growing them so not sure how long they'd produce but was thinking through the majority of the summer.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/13 05:00 AM

Are they pole green beans? Mine produced a lot then shut off when they were climbing and now have started to produce again
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/13 12:36 PM

Green beans have a producing life span.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/13 12:52 PM

yep.....gonna start a new wave of tomatoes this weekend.
_____________________________


Did a little experiment this year with 5 tomato plants and planted a Thai hot pepper plant right next to each one. Those didn't get a horned worm on them at all but the others I had to pull quiet a few off of. May have to do that from now on if it continues that way.
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/13 12:59 PM

Man those peaches look awesome I wish you were closer so we could barter smile
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/13 01:21 PM

They're free to a good home in my neighborhood.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/13 01:52 PM

I think this is a good site for garden and house ideas:

http://www.houzz.com/ideabooks/11812443/...ontent=gallery3


http://www.houzz.com/
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/13 03:10 PM

Looking good everyone! I have only had one ripe tomato so far but got a bunch that will be ripe any day now.


jalapeos are looking good too.

Cherry tomatoes
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/13 03:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Nice tree PMK, what kind is it?

Harvest them when they are firm and pretty much red with a little yelow.

Thin them out to six inches or so when they start blooming.

I saved the tag from when we planted the tree last fall. I will find it and post. I was totally shocked that it produced, much less this many after only being in the ground (elevated bed) for 7-8 months. We have another tree that we planted in similar elevated bed, about 5 years ago and it only has 2-5 peaches total any given year ... going to be BBQ wood this fall with another one of the above as it's replacement. up
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/13 03:45 PM

thanks for the comments on the loaded little peach tree and front end thinning ...
Posted By: Kyle Campbell

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/13 06:46 PM

Can you guys take a look at these tomato plants and tell me if the yellowing means too much water? I am watering them pretty heavily every other day but the buckets they are in have great drainage. The soil does not seem wet at all when I poke my finger down in it. I have 3 other plants in upside down plant hangers and they look similar but the leaves on those are actually thinning out as well.



Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/13 07:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
1) Plants are too dry.
2) Plants are too wet.
3) Foliar leaf damage from a bacteria or virus, especially if the yellowing of the leaves is accompanied by small dark spots (probably bacterial speck) or larger brown spots with concentric circles (probably early blight).
4) A more serious disease like verticillium wilt or fusarium wilt.
5) Nutritional deficiency, with the likely culprit being a lack of one of the following: nitrogen, iron, zinc, potassium, or calcium.
6) Aphids or spider mites.
7) Root-knot nematodes. Only a issue if you are growing them in sandy soil though.
8) Tobacco mosaic virus.
9) Being too close to--and especially if grown directly underneath--a black walnut tree or trees.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/13 07:49 PM

Thanks East I can't see the pic too good on my phone.

Tech can you get a close up pic of the leaves?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/13 09:06 PM

I water my tomatoes every 2 days. They look fine. Looks as if your tomatoes need more sunshire, but I don't have a clue on the yellow leaves.

Some of my peppers, and tomatoes are starting to ge sunburn.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/13 09:19 PM

Tech 03.......are you using Miracle Grow? Don't think its sunburn.

Get a bag of Epsom salt and mix it half of what they say and give them a drench after all this rain dries up. May be deficient in Magnesium. Have you gotten ripe Tomatoes off of them yet


and do those pots have holes in the bottom?
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/13 10:16 PM

Tech03,I think your watering them too much,the soil may be dry close to the top but the roots are a lot deeper.Try turning the buckets half turn and spreading them apart a little farther apart.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/13 02:52 AM

Nothing new to report. I have more than I can handle but I think this is a nice pic of the north patch/garden after the rain

Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/13 03:01 AM

That pup looks right at home.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/13 03:11 AM

He likes to sit watch and keep the neighbors dogs out of the garden.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/13 10:30 AM

Looks awesome East
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/13 11:14 AM

Great pic
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/13 12:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Great pic


Ditto! Garden looks better than mine.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/13 12:11 PM

East, tell Barmaid she needs to mow the yard.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/13 02:49 PM

Three onions, three colors, three pounds. I like for one slice of onion to cover my entire hamburger bun;

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/13 03:03 PM

Nice onions Bill


Today's harvest


Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/13 03:41 PM

Looking good guy's.

Bill, let the dog in.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/13 04:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Nice onions Bill


Today's harvest






That looks great. Let me tell you how to make chicken, sausage ratatouille with those vegetables. I modified it from a $10,000 award winning chicken recipe. You can modify it to suit your taste. I like mine spicy. Make up a sauce similar to marinara, with cooked tomatoes, onions, peppers, a couple tablespoons of tomato paste, and cayenne or jalapenos, or you can use store bought spaghetti sauce and spice that up. Cook about a quarter pound sliced of link sausage with your tomato sauce.

Stir fry bite size chicken breast (two boneless halves will do.), a zucchini, a yellow squash, a bell pepper, a large onion, and an eggplant until tender. Add the sauce and cook about 5 minutes. Serve it over pasta, or rice. It's a full meal for 4 people. It will go great with the beer you have behind your vegetables.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/13 06:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Nice onions Bill


Today's harvest






flehan
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/13 06:41 PM

yea I know, thats ridiculous
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/13 06:43 PM

Wish I was Paynes near and dear neighbor........save me a bunch of work grin
Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/13 08:09 PM

Bill why is there always a dog looking in your window when you take a picture?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/13 08:11 PM

He doesn't feed them......
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/13 08:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Brandon A
Bill why is there always a dog looking in your window when you take a picture?



The dog is a photo bomber grin

http://photo-bombers.com/
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/13 08:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Brandon A
Bill why is there always a dog looking in your window when you take a picture?


That's cracker. She has a good nose. She can smell me from my breakfast room window. I give her treats from there.
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/13 12:00 AM

I've got a problem I hope you guys can diagnose and tell me how to fix. I've noticed one of my squash plants (vines?) looking rough for the last few days. Its not producing hardly at all. Today I noticed the vine looks like the picture below. What the heck happened and is there anything I can do about it or do I need to pull the vine up and start over?



Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/13 12:11 AM

Squash bores. Mine also have it. They're done.
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/13 01:45 AM

Whats weird is I planted 2 types of yellow squash side by side. One is Early prolific, one is some type of hybrid I can't remember off hand. Only the EP variety is affected
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/13 12:13 PM

It will come. My 3 biggest garden demons are squash bores, stink bugs on my tomatoes, and bitter cucumbers. You seldom see bitter burpless cucumbers, but I have them this year. My squash are about history, and I saw my first stink bugs on my tomatoes.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/09/13 02:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
He doesn't feed them......


roflmao
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/09/13 06:51 PM

I got a few watermelons growing & the cantaloupes are doing pretty good too.

My companion vegetable garden, not doing as well as I expected but this is the first year here. My sweet corn is only knee high & now producing. Pole beans forgot they were supposed to climb the corn I guess & some of the squash is iffy. We'll see. Gonna take a little time to get my sand built up into good garden soil.


One of my ferocious watch dog owls. My two year old apparently pulled one of his eyes off & lost it, so replaced it with a leaf LOL. Silly kid.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/09/13 08:05 PM

The sandy soil should be great for melons.
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/13 01:33 PM

Pulled the last of the onions and planted lots of okra



Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/13 01:35 PM

Great looking onions! How do you plan to store them?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/13 01:36 PM

Very nice Adv, do you feed the chickens your scrapes and damaged fruit/veggies?
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/13 02:14 PM

We store them in wine boxes on the pantry floor, but it's not to big of a problem because my wife loves and eats onions more than anyone so they don't last long.

Payne our chickens get every scrap, weed and leftover they get everything.

I'm afraid my month of not watering is going to come to an end soon.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/13 04:46 PM

My daughter Cathy is not fond of onions, but she is a good eater. I asked her to take a bite of the purple onion from her salad last night. She agreed that it taste almost like an apple. I'll keep them and a few 1015 Ys in my vegetable crisper.

I don't plan to plant anymore white onions. At least a third of them made seed pods.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/13 06:53 PM

Squash bugs got my zucchini. Dammit.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/13 07:09 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
Squash bugs got my zucchini. Dammit.


Mine too. I made a second planting. They have yet to produce. Maybe, maybe not.
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/13 07:45 PM

Squash bugs Suck! I don't even plant it anymore, but usually have a few volunteers
Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/13 09:20 PM

is there no way to kill these critters?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/13 09:47 PM

guineas
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/13 11:56 PM

The rancher across the road brought me some sweet corn. I was up to my eyebolls in stuffing peppers. I just stuck the corn in the freezer whith the husk.

I think the stuffed peppers came out as fine as anythine I've ever eaten. I made a creole sauce to put over them. Tomorrow it's salsa. I think I'll take Cathy out to dinner. I'm worn out from putting vegetables up.
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/13 02:06 AM

I've got another problem I need advice on.

I've got a Better boy tomato in a topsy turvy planter and a bush type tomato plant. the better boy set probably a dozen fruit early on. The ones that were set have grown pretty good and I've gotten one ripe one off. The thing I've noticed is it has pretty much stopped blooming and setting new fruit. Is it too hot or not enough sun or somehting else?

My bush type has grown pretty well and bloomed some it was planted like mid april. Its only set like one tomato that I can see. It is blooming though. Am I just being impatient or do I have another problem?
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/13 02:20 AM

I grew better boys and so far have only had problems. I lost two tonight cause of to much rain on Saturday. But the rest look good. I have no advice to give.

But I so need some. My strawberries are growin well, but every time they bloom it disappears. I noticed tonight I have small ant beds at the base of each plant. Any advice?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/13 01:12 PM

cow doc how much sun does the better boy get?

the bush has been in the ground lest than two months?!? wait awhile

east spread some DE from a feed store around the plants
Posted By: PriddyTxHunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/13 02:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
guineas


I've seen you mention guineas several times, do they really help that much? I wanted to get some when I got my chickens, but several people talked me out of it. If they really help that much, I may go get me some. Do they take care of the stink bugs as well? We had them bad last year and then I noticed some on my tomato plants last night. If they take care of these, I'll definitely get some guineas.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/13 02:50 PM

Yes sir, they roam through the garden and eat bugs/insects. I have six dogs and have pulled three ticks off all of them combined over the years. I have no grasshoppers anywhere they roam. If you can get used to their noise they make a pretty good alarm system. Plus they are pretty much maintenance free, I give them a little scratch but they get most of their food on their own. Unlike chickens the don't scratch the ground so they don't mess up the garden.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/13 03:07 PM

How far do they roam?

What about coons and yotes when the dogs arent around to protect them?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/13 03:11 PM

I would say they roam around on 30 or so acres, probably more but if you feed them they'll always come back.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/13 03:15 PM

I'm about to buy some guineas, just need to build a coop for them first. I only live on 5 acres so I want them to come back "home" every night to eat a little scratch in the coop.
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/13 09:15 PM

Originally Posted By: PriddyTxHunter
Originally Posted By: Payne
guineas


I've seen you mention guineas several times, do they really help that much? I wanted to get some when I got my chickens, but several people talked me out of it. If they really help that much, I may go get me some.

Guineas make noise and that's probably why your neighbors talked you out of getting them. grin Get them and be happy.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/13 11:43 PM

Well I got the call about 4 today. Loud snap behind the house. Not the best results. Guess "it" happens. Dad brought tractor over and I ran the saw. Got the tree out but still a lot to do. I think I can save 8 tomato plants. Man this sucks



















Guess it could of been worse
Posted By: Texsun

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/13 11:56 PM

Heartbreaking to see that. Darn Murphys law!!!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/13 11:57 PM

eeks333

Damn man, sorry

I have no words, that's terrible.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/13 12:03 AM

Dang, sorry that happened East.
Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/13 12:11 AM

That does suck! Sorry to see that.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/13 12:21 AM

Dang!!!
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/13 12:51 AM

Yea it's frustrating. When season was over I was going to add some 2x4s and make that into a coop. Guess I will have to rethink that. Lumbar ain't cheap.

Plus my best plants were in the middle where it fell. But at least I have some left just have to get creative with the left over netting.

I've seen better days than this
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/13 01:09 AM

But you gotta keep your head up

Posted By: BuckRage

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/13 01:34 AM

Dang East. Sorry that happened to you. I know you been working hard on that garden.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/13 12:08 PM

Sorry East that sucks man!
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/13 12:35 PM

Still can't believe that happened, I know you put alot of hard work into that, sorry man.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/13 12:35 PM

Glad to see that you are keeping a positive attitude, East.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/13 12:43 PM

I'm still contemplating burning the entire damn thing to the ground.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/13 12:53 PM

Posts pics if you do that...
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/13 01:11 PM

cry oh man, that sucks East. At least that limb didn't land on a car or your house. Hopefully you can salvage a few things.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/13 01:25 PM

Originally Posted By: East
I'm still contemplating burning the entire damn thing to the ground.


Originally Posted By: Payne
Posts pics if you do that...


Don't do it man.
Posted By: BnT

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/13 01:35 PM

Sorry for your luck East. Hope those remaining 'maters pick it up.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/13 01:38 PM

On a positive note, it's just about time to plant Fall tomatoes.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/13 01:52 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Originally Posted By: East
I'm still contemplating burning the entire damn thing to the ground.


Originally Posted By: Payne
Posts pics if you do that...


Don't do it man.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/13 02:03 PM

God got you for choking that lil bitty catfish.....karma brother grin
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/13 02:11 PM

Stay the course East, don't give up on the garden. I'm glad you or someone else wasn't under that limb when it broke.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/13 02:38 PM

You and me both man. I have spent countless hours inside that tomato cage so just glad it happened when it did. I know next year the garden will be moved behind the house away from trees.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/13 02:50 PM

Pick some of the green ones and make chow-chow with them, or fried green tomatoes.

I just picked a dozen of my still green, best slicers, wrapped them in newspaper, and put them in my pantry. I hope they'll look like this one when I unwrap the;

Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/13 03:04 PM

East - That sucks man but looks like you can salvage most of the G I'm so worried about my big pecan tree I might take it out.
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/13 03:49 PM

Originally Posted By: skinnerback
Stay the course East, don't give up on the garden. I'm glad you or someone else wasn't under that limb when it broke.

This
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/13 07:40 PM

on a positive note ... think of all the firewood or BBQ wood you will get out of that limb (couldn't tell what kind of tree it came from?).
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 06:47 PM

Look at this big fat sucker! He was eating the heck out of my tomatoes & maybe some of my peppers too. I'm not sure what this caterpillar would have turned into, (mammoth moth?), but he munched on his last mater.


My wife has pretty big hands for size comparison. Big fat tomato eatin' sucker.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 06:51 PM

Those SOBs!!!!

Looks like good fish bait though
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 06:53 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Those SOBs!!!!

Looks like good fish bait though


Somebody told me it was a tomato worm? Tell you what, they don't play around. He ate a bunch of my tomatoes in no time. I'm gonna have to really start watching for em'.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 07:31 PM

It's called a tomato horn worm. It looks a lot like a catalpa worm which is excellent fish bait.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 07:33 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
It's called a tomato horn worm. It looks a lot like a catalpa worm which is excellent fish bait.


I don't like them very much. frown
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 07:35 PM

i bet they make good for bait.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 07:54 PM

OK I just did some Googlin'. This is a Tobacco Hornworm, often confused with the Tomato Hornworm & almost identical. They turn into Hawk Moths then they eat your flowers....
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 08:09 PM

Hate them, they'll clean out your tomatoes in a hurry.

BT is your friend.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 08:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Hate them, they'll clean out your tomatoes in a hurry.

BT is your friend.


Never used BT, what is it?
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 08:15 PM

http://non-electric.lehmans.com/search#w=dipel%20dust
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 08:17 PM

Is an organic solution to use to repel hornworms.

I use dipel dust but that's just a brand name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacillus_thuringiensis
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 08:17 PM

Thanks East, I'll give it a try. Do I have to order this stuff of can I find it locally?
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 08:18 PM

& thanks Senor Payne
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 08:19 PM

I had to order mine. I found liquid BT at lowes but it doesnt seem to have the same effect
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 08:19 PM

Check your nursery's they might stock it, I know Rockport isn't like East Texas...
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 08:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Check your nursery's they might stock it, I know Rockport isn't like East Texas...


THANK GOD! rofl
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 08:23 PM



http://1000bulbs.com/product/89554/SUN-7...CFfHm7AodnAgAaw
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 08:23 PM

the pm's were a horror show
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 08:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Check your nursery's they might stock it, I know Rockport isn't like East Texas...


check with your local feed or hardware store too, they might have some. On a side note, they do make good fish bait

East, that sucks about the limb falling
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 08:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
the pm's were a horror show


?
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 08:28 PM

I just called one of my local nurseries & they DO have Dipel Dust in two different sized bags. banana
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 08:28 PM

They don't stock BT in East Texas, the pm's were humorous for me , not so much for East.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 08:29 PM

4 & 8 pounds? I pay $5 for the 4 pounders.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 08:30 PM

I tried every where. Then it took lehmans 8 months to ship the damn stuff
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 08:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
4 & 8 pounds? I pay $5 for the 4 pounders.


Not sure. She said bigger bag was like $5 & also had a smaller one.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 08:33 PM

Originally Posted By: East
I tried every where. Then it took lehmans 8 months to ship the damn stuff


That's prolly cause they were trying to find your house out there in the bayou!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 08:33 PM

I would get the big bag, they might come back...
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 08:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
I would get the big bag, they might come back...


Roger that!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 11:52 PM

From my garden to my table;

Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 11:55 PM

nom, nom, nom!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/13 11:57 PM

Looks good Bill. are those hotdogs in the mix?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/13 12:12 AM

Polish sausage. It's a complete meal.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/13 12:13 AM

Looks great bill
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/13 12:15 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Polish sausage. It's a complete meal.


Do you want some link sausage?

Looks great probably tastes better.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/13 12:15 AM

Here you go;

http://www.texashuntingforum.com/forum/u...ish#Post4248998
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/13 04:16 PM

Bill, that looks great. I would love to serve that over pasta with red pepper flakes.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/13 04:31 PM

The chickens are going to eat well for a while. I haven't picked in three days and things kind of got out of control.


Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/13 04:35 PM

That's awesome, Payne.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/13 04:39 PM

Payne......when you gonna drink those beers?

NICE HAUL OF GROCERIES


and do you have any little cabins for rent on your farm? grin
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/13 04:42 PM

I don't know winter time, maybe....

I have to use something for a comparison.

The coordinates are classified....

Thanks y'all
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/13 05:00 PM

Awesome


I hate you
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/13 05:28 PM

Payne, you need to cut back on your squash and plant some tubers. Potatoes and onions will keep until thanksgiving.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/13 06:24 PM

Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/13 07:10 PM

roflmao

awesome Payne!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/13 01:46 PM




Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/13 02:41 PM

I spy a Guinea hen
Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/13 04:04 PM

I'm a little worried about my tomatoes. They are better boys and I have a bunch going but they've seemed to stall out on growth. I try to water every other day. We added some more miracle grow a few weeks ago and I'm wondering if that was a mistake.

The leaves are curling and some are totally dead. I picked the first tomato off today since it finally had some blush going on.





Jalapeos on the other hand are taking off!

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/13 04:44 PM

The jalapenos look great. I don't know what to say about your tomatoes. I could sure share some with you. I'm about done with mine except maybe for a little chow-chow with the green ones.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/13 04:44 PM

Are you watering the leaves?

Looks like early blight, I would water in the morning and at the base of the plant.
Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/13 05:21 PM

I just use the hose with a sprayer nozzle. I direct as much as I can toward the dirt but its gets on the leaves. I also water in the evening when I get home from work since I usually don't have time to mess with it in the mornings.

Ill try to make time and do hat this week.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/13 05:44 PM

What's the nozzle look like?

Some of them have a stand, you could aim it at the base and add a timer to your spigot.
Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/13 05:59 PM

It's just a standard handheld sprayer nozzle. No way to control it that much.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/13 06:00 PM

Use a bucket. I hand water my tomatoes a lot.
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/17/13 12:58 AM

Well my maters just set flowers here in DFW. Same with japs, cukes, peppers etc.. Not sure why so late. I may have got my soil to hot with amendments though. I am going to till the soil real deep at the end of the summer and hopefully will be good to go in the fall.
Posted By: Team Hillbilly

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/17/13 01:39 PM

early blight,try watering before daylight but keep it even like every day,you can slow it down by removing the brown leaf stems,that can save your tomatoes, when the temps get above 95* for a few days your plants will slow way down. crazy
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 01:46 PM

Just some updated pic









Squash arent doing great. They are stunting at 3-4" long. The white stuff is dried up BT, but I am still getting bugs

Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 03:01 PM

Looking good East. I'm jealous of those pepper plants, they look great
Posted By: preston629

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 03:05 PM

i have a jalapeno plant that is hardly doing anything. not growing and hardly producing. it is planted about a foot, give or take, from my green beans which have gone crazy. are the green beans taking all the nutrients from my pepper?

ive thought about putting it in its own plot but didnt know if it would kill it trying to transplant it?
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 03:10 PM

Here's last Thursdays harvest


Here's what I got yesterday


Should have corn ready today or tomorrow
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 03:13 PM

Originally Posted By: preston629
i have a jalapeno plant that is hardly doing anything. not growing and hardly producing. it is planted about a foot, give or take, from my green beans which have gone crazy. are the green beans taking all the nutrients from my pepper?

ive thought about putting it in its own plot but didnt know if it would kill it trying to transplant it?


I would fertilize it first then if that doesnt seem to help any try to transplant it. Mine were doing the same thing til I hit them with some fertilizer a few weeks ago and they've doubled in size and I have a few small peppers on them
Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 03:17 PM

what kind of fertilizer do yall use?
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 03:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Brandon A
what kind of fertilizer do yall use?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 03:47 PM

looks good East

nice harvest Goose
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 03:48 PM

I put 16-6-12 on my stuff
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 04:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Bluegoose
I put 16-6-12 on my stuff


I use 13-13-13, but any blend will do. We all use more than enough. I'm about done with my garden. I sprayed Roundup under my tomato and pepper plants this morning.

Your crop looks great. Do you plan to pickle and can?

I don't understand the amount of squash everyone is growing. Cathy went to Austin over the weekend. She brought home a pint of pickled yellow squash. It was okay, but a little on the sweet side. I still have frozen squash fritters from last year.
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 04:14 PM

I'm gonna try to make some pickles from my great grandmothers recipe and I'll make some hot sauce.

I planted a 6 pack of squash plants and the stupid things have turned to squash. I cant give it away fast enough. How do you make and freeze your fritters? I'd like to try that.
Posted By: PriddyTxHunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 04:17 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
It will come. My 3 biggest garden demons are squash bores, stink bugs on my tomatoes, and bitter cucumbers. You seldom see bitter burpless cucumbers, but I have them this year. My squash are about history, and I saw my first stink bugs on my tomatoes.


Do you know of any way to kill the stink bugs? They wiped out our tomatoes last year. I started seeing them again last week. I read where a garlic/water mixture gets rid of them. We've sprayed that 3 times now and it has reduced the number of stink bugs we've seen but it hasn't eliminated them. (On a side note, it makes the whole garden smell like garlic for a day or so.) We've made a couple of batches of salsa so far but we were hoping to make more if they don't wipe us out again this year.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 04:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Bluegoose
I'm gonna try to make some pickles from my great grandmothers recipe and I'll make some hot sauce.

I planted a 6 pack of squash plants and the stupid things have turned to squash. I cant give it away fast enough. How do you make and freeze your fritters? I'd like to try that.


I made them similar to potato pancakes. I used an egg, bread crumbs, microwaved potato, onions and squash in the processor, then pan fried them.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 06:42 PM

Originally Posted By: PriddyTxHunter
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
It will come. My 3 biggest garden demons are squash bores, stink bugs on my tomatoes, and bitter cucumbers. You seldom see bitter burpless cucumbers, but I have them this year. My squash are about history, and I saw my first stink bugs on my tomatoes.


Do you know of any way to kill the stink bugs? They wiped out our tomatoes last year. I started seeing them again last week. I read where a garlic/water mixture gets rid of them. We've sprayed that 3 times now and it has reduced the number of stink bugs we've seen but it hasn't eliminated them. (On a side note, it makes the whole garden smell like garlic for a day or so.) We've made a couple of batches of salsa so far but we were hoping to make more if they don't wipe us out again this year.


The best way to get rid of stink bugs is to pinch them, it needs to be done at night. During the day you won't see many, but after dark put on a head lamp and a pair of gloves. Go through your garden slowly, the bugs will come to the light and you just pinch them, (squish them with two fingers). You normally only have to do this for two nights to get rid of them. Pinching does two things....1) you can get darn near all of them this way and 2) all the bug guts draws in more good garden predators to help eat the bugs you don't get. I just learned of this this year after going to an organic hippy gardening class. Have fun!
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 06:51 PM

hahaha I am going to have to try this
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 06:54 PM

Originally Posted By: East
hahaha I am going to have to try this


up
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 06:59 PM

East those are some good looking plants! My sweet corn is ready but it SUCKS! All the plants are small, corn is small, and about half of the kernels didn't pollinate. My tomatoes are in a world of hurt after the dang gophers found them & munched on their roots. I'm hoping my squash & melons do ok..... crying
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 07:03 PM

So the three sisters are hurting?
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 07:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
So the three sisters are hurting?


Yeh frown Corn started to tassle knee to waist high, the pole beans forgot to grow & climb the corn apparently, some of the squash is growing pretty good & some isn't. The melons & cantaloupes are looking pretty good, hope they keep it up. Okra is doing OK. All of the herbs are doing good, (basil, cilantro, dill). Either deer or rabbits ate all but one of my cucumbers mad My peppers are doing so so, my tomatoes were doing real good until the gophers & hornworms found them. As part of this method I did add quite a bit to my sandy soil but I'm thinking it just needs more time. I've been fertilizing with Garrett Juice & chicken poop but wasn't able to use any compost in my garden yet, (just some revitalizer compost). I also didn't get the drip line ran under the mulch in my veggy garden so I've been watering by hand. I think that after a few more gardens are grown in that spot I will have my soil quality were it should be....hopefully. Hopefully I'll have some compost ready in time for my fall garden.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 08:10 PM

How hot was the chicken poop?
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 08:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
How hot was the chicken poop?


I don't know to be honest with you...the gardener dude said that I couldn't over fertilize with that stuff? I fertilize every two weeks & alternate chicken poop/Garret Juice. I did them both once...
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 08:21 PM

How old was it?

It's pretty hot straight out of the coop and will burn your roots.

I would suggest waiting 6 months or longer before using it. JMO
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 08:26 PM

Originally Posted By: skinnerback
Originally Posted By: Payne
How hot was the chicken poop?


I don't know to be honest with you...the gardener dude said that I couldn't over fertilize with that stuff? I fertilize every two weeks & alternate chicken poop/Garret Juice. I did them both once...



I buy Medinas (is that what you got?) You can get it too hot even from the bag. It is pasteurized so no weed seeds. I started making compost tea out of the stuff and burned some stuff up real good blush A little goes a long ways when made into the compost tea as far as watering/foliar feeding
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 08:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
How old was it?

It's pretty hot straight out of the coop and will burn your roots.

I would suggest waiting 6 months or longer before using it. JMO


Yeh I don't know how old, this stuff is in a small bag. I was told to sprinkle one handful at the base of each plant & then water or wait for rain. I did learn something else though.....on the Garret Juice DON'T mix the orange oil in with it & spray the foliage. I was told that that amount of orange oil would not burn my plants, just repel ants. So I mixed up a batch & sprayed & yes it burnt my dadgum plants. It took them a little while to get over that, then they were back to doing well until the gophers found them. I do like the Garret Juice but won't mix the orange oil in again. What I do now is mix a cup of orange oil with water in a 1 gallon sprayer & hold it down close to the ground & spray the perimeter of the garden. Seems to work OK...
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 08:31 PM

Originally Posted By: takewhatyoucan64
Originally Posted By: skinnerback
Originally Posted By: Payne
How hot was the chicken poop?


I don't know to be honest with you...the gardener dude said that I couldn't over fertilize with that stuff? I fertilize every two weeks & alternate chicken poop/Garret Juice. I did them both once...



I buy Medinas (is that what you got?) You can get it too hot even from the bag. It is pasteurized so no weed seeds. I started making compost tea out of the stuff and burned some stuff up real good blush A little goes a long ways when made into the compost tea as far as watering/foliar feeding


Yes it's Medinas.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 08:33 PM

Do you have gopher traps and know how to use them?

I'll sit next to a mound with a shotgun if I see one near my garden...
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 08:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Do you have gopher traps and know how to use them?

I'll sit next to a mound with a shotgun if I see one near my garden...


Oh yeah, been trapping gophers since Moby Dick was a minna grin I've got 9 traps right now, I trapped 7 of them a few weeks ago but was still too late for my maters. I get pocket gophers & moles here, I don't use poison cause I have two miniature wiener dogs that likes to eat them. I used to open up a mound & sit there with my pellet gun when I was a kid, just for fun. rifle
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/13 08:43 PM

good luck
Posted By: BuckRage

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/13 04:41 AM

Tell me about fall gardens.....what's good to plant? Thinking about getting back into it.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/13 12:35 PM

Originally Posted By: BuckRage
Tell me about fall gardens.....what's good to plant? Thinking about getting back into it.


Broccoli, cauliflower, mustard greens, turnips, carrots will all carry well into the Christmas holidays. Tomatoes and peppers are iffy.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/13 12:47 PM

Fall garden tomatoes need to be planted in early July.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/13 01:01 PM

This is yesterdays harvest. Had about the same amount Sunday & will have close to that many this afternoon. Looks like I will be making some hot sauce this weekend. My wife made the "E" (first letter of our last name - she's goofy)



Thailand Giant Elephant Ear that we planted at Max's grave (my buddies bird dog). Hard to believe this little thing is going to have leaves that are 4'x6'!!


Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/13 01:08 PM

Add some tomato paste to the hot sause (salsa) near the end.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/13 01:11 PM

Yep, always do.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/13 01:16 PM

Looks great, Kevin.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/13 01:31 PM

Looks awesome man up
Posted By: BuckRage

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/13 01:56 PM

does anybody grow grape tomater's? can they be planted for fall? My wife and kids pop those things like popcorn and dang their expensive at the grocery store.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/13 02:06 PM

Do you mean cherry tomatoes?

I grow super sweet 100's, I'm about to go pick them. I'll post a pic in a few hours.
Posted By: BuckRage

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/13 02:18 PM

Cherry tomatoes are good but grape tomatoes are smaller and shaped like a grape. Awesome snack.
Posted By: BuckRage

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/13 02:19 PM

Posted By: BuckRage

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/13 02:23 PM

I looked this up. Difference between a cherry and grape mater...

The fruit of grape tomatoes are smaller by about a half, more elongated, sweeter, lower in water content and have thicker skin than cherry tomatoes. This has made them popular for use in salads as they are easier to manage than the larger, juicier cherry tomatoes.

Horticulturally, they grow in long clusters - yes, like a grape! - with a longer growing season. Unlike cherry tomatoes, they won't ripen any further once picked. They are a cross between Roma, teardrop, and cherry tomatoes.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/13 02:33 PM

I grow Cherry, Sun Gold and Juliettes. The Juliettes look like Grape tomatoes but are slightly larger. They are excellent to eat.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/13 03:37 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
I grow Cherry, Sun Gold and Juliettes. The Juliettes look like Grape tomatoes but are slightly larger. They are excellent to eat.


But, take forever to pick.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/13 03:41 PM

Looks like the squash and cucumbers are finished, going to plant okra after I pull the plants.

Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/13 03:43 PM

eeks333
Posted By: BuckRage

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/13 03:44 PM

Nice haul up Is squash a possibility for fall season?
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/13 03:46 PM

yes it is
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/13 03:49 PM

I have enough put up I'm not going to waste garden space. I grow brussel sprouts , cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower and whatever else in the fall. I put some clear panels on the greenhouse so I'm going to try and grow tomatoes and some other veggies through the winter in there.
Posted By: BuckRage

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/13 04:15 PM

love me some brussel sprouts. I really think I'm going to get into a small garden this year. Probably have to get started now.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/13 08:16 PM

I saw pictures of Brussel sprouts on this forum in the early spring. I really like them, but they did not do well for me. I had broccoli and cauliflower by thanksgiving, but the Brussel sprouts took forever, and didn't produce very well. They also attracted a lot of aphids.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/13 12:40 PM

Looks like Skeeter22 had an intruder.
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/13 01:14 PM

1 less tree rat! banana
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/13 01:24 PM

koi ponds.....gonna do this one day soon

http://www.houzz.com/ideabooks/10400530/...ntent=gallery12
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/13 04:15 PM

please make a diy thread if you do, those are awesome.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/13 05:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
please make a diy thread if you do, those are awesome.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/13 07:12 PM

Originally Posted By: BuckRage
love me some brussel sprouts. I really think I'm going to get into a small garden this year. Probably have to get started now.


I did some brussels sprouts and they do take a lot of time to grow. They do attract a ton of aphids and other bugs. I think you are better to wait until around October or November to plant them as what I read on them its best to harvest the sprouts after a freeze.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/13 04:42 AM

Guess my soil likes these. This is 48 hrs of growing.

Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/13 04:43 AM

Just noticed BMs fingers. Kinda creepy looking
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/13 09:09 AM

roflmao
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/23/13 12:37 AM

That is kinda creepy. Those banana peppers are growing like crazy here too. After working in the yard all morning, I made my first batch of Salsa today, came out pretty good. I ended up with 10 jars put up & a bowl in the fridge.





Perfect day for som sun tea.


And here are a few pictures that Skeeter 22 sent me of his latest haul.


Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/23/13 03:13 AM

Good looking haul!
Posted By: BuckRage

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/23/13 03:37 AM

CC your vegetables look great.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/23/13 11:38 AM

looks good CC & skeeter
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/23/13 01:25 PM



Looks great CC. Looks as if you hand chopped some of your onions. That's a lot of work.

Also, I'm a big noticer, and I noticed that you have good taste in the canisters in your background. You might notice mine.

Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/23/13 02:22 PM

Thanks y'all. Yes Bill, I hand chop all of it. I actually enjoy it.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/23/13 02:28 PM

I always hand chopped mine to make it like thick and chunky Pace. My wife bought regular Pace. I started chopping all on my in the processor, except for a few rings of jalapeos.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/23/13 04:58 PM

If I plant peach trees at a new place this coming winter are the deer going to eat them up?


Bought some more land this weekend in Poetry and there are a lot of deer but the sandy loam is perfect for so many things to grow in
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/23/13 05:06 PM

You can cage them with t posts and chicken wire
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/23/13 09:23 PM

I have never heard of deer eating peaches. They will eat Texas Persimmons.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 01:52 AM

Things are turning around for me. Zucchini and squash are finally puttin on size and cherry tomatoes are ripe. Big boys are about there



And of course there are 1000 sweet bananas
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 02:25 AM

Looks good East! My squash hasnt done squat. My peppers and cukes are doing fair. I did make some pickles this weekend.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 02:30 AM

Same here. Those surprised me. I have away a few of my squash plants from the garage. The guy I gave them to said they were doing the same thing, they would hit 3-4" and stop growing. Hopefully things will change.

I am building a green house to grow through the winter but y'all will have to wait on pics till I am done
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 02:34 AM

First ever attempt at making pickles. We made 5 pint jars (spears and chucks). They are going to set for about a week then I'll test out a jar.



Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 02:37 AM

Awesome. I can't wait to do that. Love some fried pickles.

Great looking cabinets by the way.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 02:39 AM

Thanks, they came with the house grin
Posted By: Jase

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 10:44 AM

Lookin good all! Finally started getting a few tomatoes off my plants and they are awesome!

Now a stupid question: How do you know when bell peppers are ready to pick? We've got quite a few growing but I'm just not sure how to tell when they're ready to come in.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 12:08 PM

Try a few of the pickles as soon as they lose their color. The bell peppers will break away from the stalk more easily when they are ready. I don't understand sweet banana peppers. What do you do with them?
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 12:46 PM

We eat them Bill. Looking great everyone!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 12:56 PM

roflmao
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 03:21 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
We eat them Bill. Looking great everyone!


A 4 pack of my jalapenos turned out to be banana peppers. They had no taste. I pulled them up.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 03:44 PM




Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 03:48 PM

Everythings looking good Gentlemen!!

I'm gonna attempt some pickles this year if I can ever find the time
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 03:55 PM



Last fridays hual: 1.5 bushels cucumber, 2.5 bushels sweet corn, 1 bushel of field corn, nearly a bushel of tomatos and about a peck of squash

The 2 boxes of redist tomatos are from the pic I posted last week
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 03:56 PM

Very impressive Goose

How long does it take you to pick all of that?
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 04:03 PM

That took me a little over 2 hours. The dang cucumbers take forever.

I've got some okra coming on now and my peppers are finally starting to produce as well
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 04:05 PM

Do you sell it or save it? if you don't mind me asking.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 04:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Bluegoose
That took me a little over 2 hours. The dang cucumbers take forever.

I've got some okra coming on now and my peppers are finally starting to produce as well


Wow. Are your cucumbers sweet, or not bitter? I am ready to give up on cucumbers.
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 04:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Do you sell it or save it? if you don't mind me asking.


My Dad has a small farm and sells his produce so I gave all that to him. Everything else I've had so far has been givin away or eaten. All the corn I pick from here on out will go in the freezer and the tomatos will become salsa.

Bill, I have no idea as to the flavor of the cucumbers becuase I dont eat them. I planted them with the intention of making pickles but I've picked over 3 bushels worth and have given them all away. I'm hoping to make time this week to try a batch
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 04:32 PM

Looking good guys. Well, my garden is officially toast. The deer moved in the other night and totally destroyed it. Very sad, my daughter and I pulled what was left of it up yesterday for the compost. I will not plant another garden here unless it's in a freakin' cage. I've battled non stop with the birds, squirrels, rabbits, coons, & deer. Nothing I tried worked to keep them away. Lesson learned. I may just have to shoot the first one or two deer I see in my yard this October for a little pay back. crying
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 04:35 PM

Dang skinner sorry to hear that man
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 04:36 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Dang skinner sorry to hear that man


+1 That sucks man.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 04:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Bluegoose
Originally Posted By: Payne
Do you sell it or save it? if you don't mind me asking.


My Dad has a small farm and sells his produce so I gave all that to him. Everything else I've had so far has been givin away or eaten. All the corn I pick from here on out will go in the freezer and the tomatos will become salsa.

Bill, I have no idea as to the flavor of the cucumbers becuase I dont eat them. I planted them with the intention of making pickles but I've picked over 3 bushels worth and have given them all away. I'm hoping to make time this week to try a batch


Your dad has what we called a truck farm when I was growing up. Just pack 18 to 24 cucumbers, dill and garlic in anything. Then make a brine of 2 pints water, and 1 part vinegar, with a half cup of salt. Pour it over the cucumbers. They're ready t eat when the color turns. They will taste like the deli dills.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 04:43 PM

Thanks guys. I can't believe how much damage they did. I had 1 watermelon left Sat night but Sunday morning they got that one too. Stripped every bit of foliage, every blossom, every veggie, well except for one okra....they left me half of that one. They really like squash & cucumbers too. mad
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 05:31 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Originally Posted By: East
Dang skinner sorry to hear that man


+1 That sucks man.



I think the same thing happened to Lone Star Son a couple of years ago.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 05:40 PM

sorry skinner
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 06:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
sorry skinner


frown thanks
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 06:15 PM

If you were closer, I would bring you some of my vegetables.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 06:39 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
If you were closer, I would bring you some of my vegetables.


Thanks Bill, maybe next time it'll work out. Lesson learned. hammer
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 06:49 PM

I made a frame out of pvc and attached chicken wire to it with wire ties. They work well. I can email a pic.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 06:55 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
I made a frame out of pvc and attached chicken wire to it with wire ties. They work well. I can email a pic.


Sending PM, thanks Skeeter.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 07:17 PM

Look at the bright side skinner.

At least something got to eat the veggies instead of being a tree sacrifice...
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 07:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Look at the bright side skinner.

At least something got to eat the veggies instead of being a tree sacrifice...


roflmao yes, there's always the bright side isn't there. grin
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 07:28 PM

now isnt that just hilarious
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 07:33 PM

Originally Posted By: East
now isnt that just hilarious


rofl
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/13 07:54 PM

Always bustin on my boy East.

What did you do to these guys East? LOL
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/13 03:55 PM

I did similar with making a PVC frame and zip-tied the deer/bird netting to keep "stuff" away from my peach trees & tomato plants. worked like a charm! pretty cheap and easy to set up & take down and merely attach the sides using clothes pins for easy access for us to get to the fruit/vegetables.

and to the earlier question about deer eating peaches ... YES, pears, plums, etc. too. part of the reason I built the PVC frames. but I do take the dropped fruit or ones with bad spots and put out by the water bucket I keep for the deer. everything gone the next morning everytime!.
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/13 03:47 PM

Here's yesterdays harvest


got some peas starting to turn
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/13 03:48 PM

looks great

the heat getting to them
Posted By: webstertroy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/13 05:21 PM

Anyone close to Irving Have some veg that they wanna sell?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/13 06:06 PM

Find a garden and make an offer. They will usually be free.
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/13 07:29 PM

the heat is whipping the cucumbers pretty good but everything else is holding up well
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/13 07:39 PM

heat is getting my squash, but everything else seems to be alright.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/13 07:41 PM

my squash & cukes are gone

okra is on the way
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/13 07:51 PM

All mine is getting pretty well burned up now....tons of japs and different peppers and the porter tomatoes just turning as I planted them late

Corn is looking great and probably ready

Been a good year and learned a few things and got lots of groceries put away and given away
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/13 08:34 PM

I'm making chow-chow with some of my green tomatoes, red bell peppers, onions, and jalapenos tomorrow, then I'm done.
Posted By: BuckRage

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/13 08:41 PM

Bill I had never even heard of chow chow before until I started hunting with an older gentleman in Coke county. He had a garden and made his own from his families recipe as well. Stuff was good condiment on certain stuff. They ate it up with everything. Can ya post up the recipe? I don't remember his having bell peppers though....it was a bit sweet if I remember.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/13 09:42 PM

That sounds more like sweet tomato relish. Mine has a little zip to it. You can also add a little cabbage to give it more texture, or not.

I just put everything in the food processor and chop it, then pour in into a 3 quart pan, add about a quarter cup sugar, some salt, cover it with vinegar and bring it to a boil. I then dip it into pint jars with a slotted spoon. You will end up with half the volume you started with. All the jars will seal. I never put it into a hot bath. I use 1 jalapeno per pint. I like the red bell peppers for color. I use it with canned blackeyed peas. My daughter loves it. She'll take a couple of pints back to Flordia.

Also, what do you guys plan to change next year? I've had the same garden spot for 37 years. I'll rotate a little, not plant anymore white onions, and buy one sack of potting soil to try for sweet cucumbers. Maybe we won't have the late frost next spring.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/13 01:22 PM

Here are the vegetables ready to be put into the food chopper. Notice my pruning shears. Including them is an idea that came from my good buddy, Payne.

Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/13 01:41 PM

I'm gonna have to get a pair of those pruning shears, my okra is just starting to produce good & those things are a pain to cut off without some good shears and I don't want to ruin my bird shears. I will probably rotate my garden next year but I have decided that I will always plant Celebrity tomato plants, they produce the best for me, so Celebrity, Cherry & Roma's will be it for tomato plant's in my garden from now on. I might try some cucumbers next year just for the heck of it, I hate the taste of raw cukes but I love pickles.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/13 02:08 PM

The chow-chow is now a done deal. Did any of you time me?

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/13 02:11 PM

46 minutes

Nice shears
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/13 03:30 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
I'm gonna have to get a pair of those pruning shears, my okra is just starting to produce good & those things are a pain to cut off without some good shears and I don't want to ruin my bird shears. I will probably rotate my garden next year but I have decided that I will always plant Celebrity tomato plants, they produce the best for me, so Celebrity, Cherry & Roma's will be it for tomato plant's in my garden from now on. I might try some cucumbers next year just for the heck of it, I hate the taste of raw cukes but I love pickles.


I'll stay with just the celebrities only. I don't have the patience for the smaller tomatoes. I've seen a lot of cat faced tomatoes on this forum over the years. You don't get them with the celebrities.

What do you guys think of my caladiums this year? I still have a few bulbs left but no place to plant them.
Posted By: FFF21

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/13 05:53 PM

Chow chow looks great Bill.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/13 06:56 PM

Send some to me Bill. I have lots of space for them. They look great.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/13 08:07 PM

What brand of food processors do you guys use. I have this B&D in cost less than $30. I've really gotten my monies worth out of it. My momma used to make that stuff up with a hand grinder, and a grate.


Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/13 08:11 PM






http://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-DLC-2009-9-Cup-Processor-White/dp/B009SD50QY
Posted By: BuckRage

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/13 08:13 PM

I use the Ninja. use it all the time. 3 or 4 blades extremely sharp.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/13 08:26 PM

Originally Posted By: BuckRage
I use the Ninja. use it all the time. 3 or 4 blades extremely sharp.


x2
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/13 11:01 PM

What about the slap-chop?
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/13 11:03 PM

My wife bought a Ninja recently. I think you could shred a car with it.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/13 11:35 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Originally Posted By: BuckRage
I use the Ninja. use it all the time. 3 or 4 blades extremely sharp.


x2


Hey Yeast, you can make a very good tarter sauce relish with that sucker. Just chop an onion and a few cucumbers in there, add a little salt plus sugar,cover with vinegar, and bring to a boil. Dip into a pint jar and stick in the frig. It will last for a year. Just add a little mayo, each time you have catfish, and it's a done deal.

I sponsored a fish fry in Lincoln Nebraska at the NSTRA endurance trial and brought my tarter sauce relish up there.

It was the highlight of the trial for most people, but not for me. My most famous field trial champion got to brace up with her HOF mother. I'm not making this up. Here's a picture.

Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/13 12:38 PM

Sounds good Bill, I am going to have to try that
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/13 01:02 PM

Pretty cool, my wife is from Lincoln, Nebraska. We normally go there twice a year.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/13 02:25 PM

Heres another from Skeeter22's garden
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/13 02:34 PM

Looks good Skeeter and thank you sir for leaving a jar on my porch I will share it this weekend at the hunting lease(work weekend)
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/13 03:10 PM

Yeah, I'm gonna crack open my jar tomorrow. Can't wait to try it.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/13 04:38 PM

AdvTx and CCBDM, I'll share the recipe if yall like them.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/13 06:43 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
AdvTx and CCBDM, I'll share the recipe if yall like them.


Share it on here for everyone.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/13 06:58 PM

I'll have to do it tomorrow, Bill. I am leaving for Camp Constantin to pick up my son from Boy Scout camp.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/01/13 01:24 PM

The Peppers, Carrots, Onion & Garlic that Skeeter22 makes is awesome. I want the recipe for sure!!
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/01/13 01:57 PM

Hot Peppers

1 cup vinegar
3 cups water
1/4 cup sesame oil
1/4 cup salt
4 onions quartered
4 carrots sliced
1 teaspoon basil
2 bay leaves
2 quarts jalapenos sliced (I slice them in half longways and remove the seeds)

Combine the first four ingredients and bring to a boil. Add the onions, carrots, basil and bay leaves and boil for five minutes. Then add the jalapenos and boil for three more minutes. Use a slotted spoon and fill pint jars (that have been in in a separate pan of boiling water for ten minutes) with the veggies. Pour the remaining liquid over the top of the veggies and seal the jars. Makes five pints.

The last batch, I also added about 15 cloves of garlic and blanched them with the peppers. I used a hand strainer to keep them separate so that I could portion them out in the jars.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/01/13 02:08 PM

BTW, I use the wide mouth jars because they are easier to fill.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/01/13 04:27 PM

Posted By: BuckRage

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/01/13 04:37 PM

nice haul.....again... I would have trouble figuring out what to do with all of that. Nicely done.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/01/13 06:17 PM

Payne, that is awesome.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/01/13 06:38 PM

Thanks y'all
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/01/13 06:40 PM

Looking good Payne up
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/01/13 08:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne



Its like Garden Porn muyloco
Posted By: webstertroy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/02/13 05:30 PM

payne can always mail me some!!!!
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/02/13 06:39 PM

Originally Posted By: webstertroy
payne can always mail me some!!!!


Yes, he mails stuff sometimes. banana grin
Posted By: webstertroy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/02/13 06:53 PM

then come on payne hook it up lol food
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/03/13 01:01 AM

Payne = Harvester not Gardener smile

Skeeter Those peppers are awesome thank you again and thanks for posting recipe!
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/03/13 12:47 PM

In the last week I have noticed a bunch of my ripe tomatoes laying on the ground around my garden, half eaten. I figured birds were knocking them off or coons at night. Well last night I caught the culprit. Traitor. There will be hell to pay

Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/03/13 12:53 PM

rofl

I got some unexpected help from my 2 year old too. I was finding green tomatoes in the yard and was like scratch then I caught him "helping me" LOL. He would snatch a green mater off and say, "look dada, ball, ball dada" & then throw that sucker. Kid's got a pretty good arm too. roflmao
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/03/13 03:17 PM

Originally Posted By: East
In the last week I have noticed a bunch of my ripe tomatoes laying on the ground around my garden, half eaten. I figured birds were knocking them off or coons at night. Well last night I caught the culprit. Traitor. There will be hell to pay



Good boy Tank!
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/03/13 05:35 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Originally Posted By: East
In the last week I have noticed a bunch of my ripe tomatoes laying on the ground around my garden, half eaten. I figured birds were knocking them off or coons at night. Well last night I caught the culprit. Traitor. There will be hell to pay



Good boy Tank!



roflmao
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/03/13 07:01 PM

Originally Posted By: East
In the last week I have noticed a bunch of my ripe tomatoes laying on the ground around my garden, half eaten. I figured birds were knocking them off or coons at night. Well last night I caught the culprit. Traitor. There will be hell to pay



he's looking at you like "yeah you caught me.... what ya gonna do about it daddy?"
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/13 11:37 PM

I am getting this on 50% of my bell peppers. Over watering?

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/13 11:47 PM

Originally Posted By: East
I am getting this on 50% of my bell peppers. Over watering?



Sun blisters! you can try to shade the exposed ones. They're still good to eat when you cut off the spot.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/09/13 12:05 AM

Hefner is right on this one..
Posted By: janie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/09/13 01:14 AM

Payne, that is simply incredible. Congrat's on a fine harvest. East......

With a face like that you can't hardly get mad. smile

No pic's here. Our tomatoes continue to produce, but everything else has kinda gone to hell in a handbasket.

Bill and I screwed up on the onions, carrot's and squash. We now know where we made our mistakes.

Always next season.
Posted By: BearkatHunter2011

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/09/13 02:24 AM

So after not having a garden at the Ranch for 17 years, we put one in this year and have learned a lot. For one, it really takes someone there everyday to keep it weeded and cared for. A visit twice a month just wont get it done. Two, tomatoes need cages and not stakes. Three, we need to incorporate more sand, gypsum, and lime to break up the clay soil. Four, we are going to invest in some black poly weed mats next year and grow our garden with those covering it to avoid the jungle high Johnson grass. And finally, we are going to install a drip irrigation system. Seemed the sprinkler system we used this year watered the weeds more than the plants we were growing. But the good news is we harvested a lot of onions, radishes, turnips, beets, peppers, and tomatoes.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/12/13 11:18 PM

Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/15/13 03:01 PM

looks good Payne!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/15/13 04:06 PM

Thanks

It looks like eggplant, japs, bell peppers and okra until the fall garden.
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/15/13 04:56 PM

my squash is toast... I still have Zucchini, japs, bells, okra, peas and I'm still getting 2-3 bushels of tomatoes a week. I have some watermelons that should be ready in a couple of weeks

got a inch of rain last night which will help alot
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/15/13 09:01 PM

my garden is toast now.......and Im fine with that grin
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/15/13 09:53 PM

Mine too. I was tired of it. I put up a lot of vegetables, and have enough onions to last until fall. I still have a few potatoes in the vegetable crisper.
Posted By: Cleric

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/17/13 12:39 AM

I am actually thinking of making a small herb garden...
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/20/13 09:02 AM

http://blog.diynetwork.com/maderemade/ho...s-for-Better-Re
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/20/13 01:01 PM

I've planted mine both ways. It's odd that Bonnie would show cat faced, and unevenly ripened tomatoes as an example.
Posted By: red bluff

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/21/13 01:46 PM

Is anyone else have trouble with Wasp in the blackeye pea patch. I have hundreds on the vines every time I try to harvest, Sprayed with Seven and it ran them off for a few minutes.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/21/13 03:20 PM

Spray them with soapy water and they will die.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/22/13 01:46 PM

http://oldworldgardenfarms.com/how-it-all-started/


This is a really neat site and some great ideas that all of us can incorporate
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/22/13 04:01 PM

Nice find t64, thanks for sharing
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/01/13 01:15 AM

You can plant broccoli and cauliflower seeds this week and keep them moist, then transplant them in September.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/07/13 02:42 AM

Tonight's harvest

Posted By: BearkatHunter2011

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/07/13 02:56 AM

Good looking peppers East.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/07/13 04:12 AM

Apparently that's all my soil will grow.

Canned half then went to freeze the other half and my "new" food saver popped and won't even grab a bag now.

Pissed
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/08/13 12:25 AM

Pickle some of those cucumbers. It's easy, just slice them or pack them whole. Make a brine of two parts water, one part vinegar, and salt. Pour the brine over the cucumbers and refrigerator after they turn color.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/08/13 02:33 PM

Nice East. That's about all I harvested is hot peppers, a few green beans and a decent amount of cukes. I've made about 8 jars of pickles and Bill is right it is easy.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/08/13 03:03 PM

Those jalapeos look like they are for sissies.
Posted By: Flying0324

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/11/13 01:42 PM

Those jalapeos look good!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/11/13 01:51 PM

This is what today's jalapenos should look like;

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/11/13 02:02 PM

According to who, Hef?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/11/13 02:34 PM

According to my good friend East among many. He admitted that he would rather have the giant jalapenos but couldn't find the seeds.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/11/13 04:55 PM

So you and East are the be all/end all of jalapenos?
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/11/13 05:01 PM

All of the giant jalapenos that I have eaten had no heat at all.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/11/13 05:12 PM

Mine were hot. In the past I used 4 per pint in my salsa. This year 2 per pint did the trick. My chow-chow came out almost too hot.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/11/13 07:13 PM

Bill, did you buy plants or start your peppers from seeds? Do you recall the variety?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/11/13 07:23 PM

I bought the plants.
Posted By: sig226fan (Rguns.com)

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/11/13 08:15 PM

I am done picking okra, if anyone wants to come pick it they are welcome
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/11/13 10:03 PM

How many did you plant?
Posted By: sig226fan (Rguns.com)

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/11/13 10:05 PM

6 rows 40 yards long
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/11/13 10:08 PM

eeks333

Yea I would be done too
Posted By: sig226fan (Rguns.com)

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/11/13 10:50 PM

We have about 30 pounds of breaded okra in the freezer, about 30 just cut okra, about 10 snipped whole pods, and I have ate more fried okra and gumbo than I have in years....and of course Vicki has pickled about 30 pints, and we just finished the pickled from 11, and started on 12...

I've got one row set aside to go to seed... just hate to stop all of it.
Posted By: SniperRAB

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/12/13 02:01 AM

Sitting here reading all the pages and trying to talk myself out of doing another Garden next year..you do realize how much hunting and fishing time this will cost me smile some good ideas
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/13/13 12:23 AM

I do mine between seasons except for planting onions and potatoes. I put those in during quail season.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/13/13 12:34 AM

Do you can cucumbers Bill?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/13/13 12:41 AM

I pickle a few, but I refrigerate them.
Posted By: sig226fan (Rguns.com)

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/13/13 12:44 AM

We just picked okra again. It's making a gallon bucket a day even in this heat and little water. I hate to mow it down. I've let one row go to seed, only working 3 good rows and 3 mediocre rows.

Squash is only getting 2-3 every two days on 8 plants total.
Tomatoes are still producing but they are small.

Canteloupe is doing well but about to play out. Cucumbers are making but they are YELLOW.
Posted By: Tbar

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/19/13 02:35 AM

This is the extent of my gardening efforts this fall. Six 4 week old tomato plants in the green house..........

Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/19/13 02:47 AM

Wow. More pics of green house please!
Posted By: sig226fan (Rguns.com)

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/19/13 03:19 PM

picked every tomato and pepper yesterday, school starts back, so we're giving up...

Made 9 quarts of green tomato chow chow and 17 pints of hot tomato relish... lost one pint of X-hot when it exploded in the bath, first time that's ever happened.

We left the red bells and cantaloupe plants, and still have to pick the dry peas, but done with tomatoes, squash, okra, cucumbers and hot peppers.

Sad to see it winding down, and growing up.

I will have tons of Okra seed to sell too!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/19/13 06:23 PM

That's a lot of relish and chow chow. I don't put mine in a bath, but I make just a few and keep them in the frig. How does your relish differ from your chow chow?
Posted By: jcarlson91

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/27/13 04:26 PM

coolpics
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/30/13 05:04 AM

Peppers, poblanos and bells still growing strong. A few of my tomato plants have flower again, so we'll see if we can get a few fall tomatoes. Everything else gone. I think my garden this year was too "hot". After the amendments settle this winter I should be in good shape. I have about 6 wheelbarrow full of compost which be just right come spring time to add to the mix. I am going to throw out some lettuce and cilantro next week to see what happens.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/13/13 02:08 PM

I'll be planting some mustards and turnips over the weekend. It's a back to my roots thing for me. I couldn't find any mustard seeds on the standard seed racks. I plan to stop by the feed store today and see if they have them.

I tilled up my garden yesterday. The 35 year old tiller started on the third pull. I really got a good scald on the tilling. The soil looks as good as it has ever looked at planting time. I'll just sow the seeds on the top of the ground and let Sunday's rain do the rest.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/13/13 02:32 PM

Sounds like a plan. I disced mine last Friday.

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/13/13 02:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Sounds like a plan. I disced mine last Friday.



Wow! You got a good scald on yours also. You can put out broccoli and cauliflower plants with the next rain. I really miss that.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/19/13 01:22 AM

I'll be planting some mustard, turnips, radishes, chard, carrots seeds this week. Then putting some broccoli, spinach and cabbage transplants next week.
Posted By: SniperRAB

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/19/13 01:44 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Sounds like a plan. I disced mine last Friday.



That's some good looking Soil Payne
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/19/13 11:53 AM

Thanks, planted carrots, onions, cabbage, broccoli, tomatoes, cauliflower, spinach and brussel sprouts.


Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/19/13 01:35 PM

Did you plant them all from seeds? Sounds a lot like my fall garden back in the old days.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/19/13 03:04 PM

Looking good Payne! I haven't had time to do squat! frown
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/19/13 03:08 PM

Thanks skinner

Bill bought the red cabbage, onions and tomatoes.

Sowed the rest including green cabbage.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/21/13 01:06 AM

Anyone who sowed in seeds should get them rained in this week.
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/21/13 04:50 AM

Need to put lettuce out Bill.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/25/13 03:59 PM

I quit growing lettuce. It comes out bitter.

I did notice that the volunteer cilantro is starting to come up. I use a lot of cilantro. I bought some for tonight's dinner fixings.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/26/13 02:28 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Anyone who sowed in seeds should get them rained in this week.


I was able to. Got little sprouts coming up now. When should I fertilize?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/26/13 12:56 PM

I put some fertilizer down under my seeds. I hit it another lick if, and when I transplant.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/26/13 12:59 PM

I put slow release fertilizer down when I plant/sow.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/26/13 06:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
I put slow release fertilizer down when I plant/sow.


What kind & how deep?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/27/13 01:33 AM

I get mine from Janak brothers in Shiner. It's in a zip-lock bag.
You can get it at a local nursery or a big box store.
I put it under the seeds/transplants.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/27/13 08:53 PM

[video:youtube]I4Ky1cyTuzk[/video]
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/27/13 11:23 PM

That might work today with improved techniques, but it did not work very well when I was growing up.

Tomatoes and potatoes are in the same family. I grafted a tomato plant onto a potato plant for a 4-H project. I got written up in the local newspaper. I think I got two potatoes and a couple of irregular tomatoes.

Also, thanks for posting. It brought back memories.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/21/13 05:40 PM



Spinach and carrots didn't germinate. I hate hoeing.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/21/13 07:38 PM

WOW! Those suckers are really growing. Your carrots might come up later. They can be slow.

I'm eating my first batch of mustard greens tonight. I have volunteer cilantro that I'm sharing with my neighbors. That's about it for me.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/21/13 10:09 PM

carrots typically germinate 7-15 days. I am just now seeing little sprouts on mine.

Payne, what do you have out?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/21/13 11:43 PM

Here are my mustard greens;

I'm stuffed. It was chicken fried pork chops, mustard green from my garden, scratch cornbread, and black eyed peas with chow-chow.

Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/22/13 12:31 AM

up
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/22/13 12:59 AM

Darn it Bill, no table manners? That knife needs to be facing out, not in! Heck of a supper right there.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/22/13 01:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne


Spinach and carrots didn't germinate. I hate hoeing.


You think you hate hoeing. I chopped cotton 10 hours a day when I was growing up.

I planted carrots a couple of years ago. They did not come up. I got new seeds, and then the old seeds came up
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/22/13 01:30 PM

Yes, I think I hate hoeing.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/22/13 01:32 PM

Originally Posted By: phat694
Payne, what do you have out?


Broccoli, Brussel Sprouts, Cabbage, Cauliflower, Lettuce, Onions, Tomatoes
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/22/13 11:30 PM

What did you start with for your onions? I liked those little cocktail onion things that you could buy almost anywhere for fall green onions. I don't see them anymore. I'll get the onion sets which are started onions for my spring garden.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/23/13 12:32 AM

A hoe & a dream...
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/23/13 12:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Originally Posted By: phat694
Payne, what do you have out?


Broccoli, Brussel Sprouts, Cabbage, Cauliflower, Lettuce, Onions, Tomatoes


I put out broccoli, brussel sprouts, cabbage, garlic, carrots, kale, swiss card and potatoes (though I don't expect them to do much good)
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/01/13 08:15 PM

I picked my first bunch of cilantro just awhile ago. I plan to add it to a couple of Mexican dishes tonight.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/04/13 06:18 PM



Been getting a lot of rain. Think I'm going to pull the tomato plants and grow them in the green house over the winter.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/04/13 07:08 PM

Looking good Payne.
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/07/13 03:07 AM

Anyone ever picked Japs in November?

I planted one jap plant back in the early spring. It grew a nice plant this summer but only made a few peppers. Once it cooled a little and started raining it bloomed and loaded up with peppers.
I'm gonna give it a few more days to grow and pick em.

This might happen all the time but not to me.

Doc
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/07/13 03:53 AM

I pick them all the way until we get a freeze.
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/12/13 09:18 PM



I picked these a couple weeks ago... I'll pick them again this evening before the cold hits
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/12/13 09:21 PM

Those are really nice peppers for this time of the year. Did you prune the plants back?
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/12/13 09:40 PM

I didn't prune the plants, I pretty much said screw it about the middle of August and forgot about them. I noticed one day that the plants were still green so I went and checked them out. I've picked a bushels worth a peppers off of them since October. They look better now than they did all year
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/12/13 09:56 PM

Very nice harvest Bluegoose
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/12/13 09:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Very nice harvest Bluegoose
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/12/13 10:44 PM

Especially for second growth peppers!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/12/13 10:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Very nice harvest Bluegoose


Are your broccoli plants showing any buds or whatever you call the first formation in the center?
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/13/13 01:13 AM

I picked all of my peppers earlier today. The plants will be toast tomorrow if it gets as cold tonight as predicted.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/13/13 01:44 AM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
I picked all of my peppers earlier today. The plants will be toast tomorrow if it gets as cold tonight as predicted.


this is all I picked



left about 3-4 plants behind that looked like this



just way more than I need, I already have more than I need
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/13/13 03:03 AM

Got the same results. Lots of japs and bells the last few weeks.
Posted By: Frenzy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/14/13 05:54 PM

This is a great thread, you guys have some good gardens. After reading through it I decided to try my hand at gardening this year. Seems to be doin ok so far, we'll see how it turns out.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/14/13 06:08 PM

Nice garden, good luck


No bill I haven't yet
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/14/13 06:24 PM

You'll have broccoli for Thanksgiving Frenzy. It'll keep coming back.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/14/13 07:07 PM

Looks good Frenzy. The frost nipped my broc, sprouts and cabbage but they should really enjoy the 80 degree temps this weekend.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/21/13 08:32 PM

Posted By: Frenzy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/21/13 09:32 PM

Looks good!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/21/13 10:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Frenzy
Looks good!


YEP!
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/22/13 02:45 AM

East I wish we lived closer, I would gladly clean those japs up for you.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/25/13 10:17 PM

As a general rule, leave the leaves


http://news.yahoo.com/general-rule-leave-leaves-144622286.html


I do the same with bags of grass during the summer....those black bags full of green grass left in the sun compost fast....I just go through the neighborhoods on the weekends and pick up a load now and again
Posted By: Frenzy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/14/13 05:11 PM

So the ol garden survived the artic blast. Most of the water in the aquaponics froze and spilled out and there was only a few inches left in the fish tank when I unplugged the pump. I thought it froze solid and killed the fish but when I walked out there this morning I was suprised that somehow they survived. The cauliflower and broccili are still going great.
Posted By: thecoach

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/18/13 04:28 PM

Is it to earlier to plant broccili and onions?
Posted By: thecoach

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/18/13 04:30 PM

have yall ever planted carrots? We have a 3 month old baby and I'm wanting to make her baby food for the most part. I'm thinking green peas, carrots, yellow squash, zucchini, and what else do ya'll think would be some good ones?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/18/13 05:31 PM

Broccoli will take a light freeze but will wilt under a hard freeze. Onions should make it through any type of cold weather. I've planted carrots, but they are slow.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/24/13 07:07 PM












Broccoli, brussel sprouts and cauliflower decided to show up
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/25/13 03:50 PM

You're in business now. The best way to cook broccoli and cauliflower for me is to put the flowerets in a glass microwave proof dish, and a quarter cup of water. Microwave for 8 to 10 minutes, thus steaming the vegetables. Drain the water, salt, toss with butter and lemon juice.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/30/13 07:30 PM

Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/30/13 07:32 PM

Very nice Payne
Posted By: texretvet

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/05/14 01:54 AM

Where can I get 1015 onion sets right now?
Posted By: texretvet

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/05/14 01:54 AM

and seed potatoes?
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/05/14 02:46 AM

Originally Posted By: texretvet
and seed potatoes?


You might have to make your own seed potatoes. I started looking this fall for some and had zero luck. I made my own using certified organic yukon gold potatoes. Whole foods was the only place I had any luck.
Posted By: texretvet

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/05/14 06:23 AM

Originally Posted By: phat694
Originally Posted By: texretvet
and seed potatoes?


You might have to make your own seed potatoes. I started looking this fall for some and had zero luck. I made my own using certified organic yukon gold potatoes. Whole foods was the only place I had any luck.


Thanks for the idea about the potatoes. I never even thought of that.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/05/14 11:25 AM

Originally Posted By: texretvet
Where can I get 1015 onion sets right now?


they were all out at Lowes yesterday
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/05/14 11:29 AM

The feed store here is suppose to get some more 1015 sets this week. Let me know if you can't find any and I'll mail you some.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/05/14 02:01 PM

I usually get mine at the feed store, but I got them at Home Depot last year.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/07/14 06:10 AM

Anyone starting seeds yet?
Posted By: Play Maker

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/14 07:31 AM

Johnson and bermuda grass control. My garden area is roughly 75' x 75'. I have a big time problem with Johnson grass and Bermuda grass encroachment. Are there any effective preventative measures to use while the grasses are still dormant?
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/14 12:42 PM

You might try covering the area in black polyethylene.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/14 10:42 PM

A few seeds getting started.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/14 11:08 PM

when do you plan on planting?

what did you start?
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/14 11:20 PM

I've got spinach, Swiss chard and broccoli. I'll put them in when they are big enough to take below freezing temps....maybe in about 3-4 weeks.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/14 11:23 PM

And 2 tomatoes for s's and giggles
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/14 11:34 PM

good luck, post pics
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/14 11:53 PM

Hey Payne, I've never put in onion sets in during the fall months. How are yours doing?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/14 11:59 PM

they are fine
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/13/14 02:56 AM

It's that time of year again. Hunting season is virtually over, and spring/summer garden season is beginning. I went and got my seeds last week, and chiseled the garden today. As soon as I see some onions transplants I will be planting them. I hope we more rain than the last two years.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/13/14 04:41 PM

They were always called onion sets when I was growing up. I got two bundles a few minutes ago at Home Depot. They were just unloaded from the truck. They're the best looking sets that I remember. It looks to be around 80 per bundle. I got one of 1015Y and one bundle of red onions. I'm planting them tomorrow in one double row. I'm not planting any white onions this year.

Now I'll be looking for seed potatoes. The feed stores in my area are going out of business. Maybe I can find some in East Barnard. I quail hunt in that area. They were closed Saturday. Saturdays was their best business days back in the old days.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/13/14 05:00 PM

I put out sets too yesterday about 2 dozen sweet onions. I still have a fair amount left over.
Posted By: TBS

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/13/14 08:17 PM

Well there are 60 pages on this thread so I know this question has probably been asked and answered so please be kind and don't beat me .... grin

I live in Rowlett and have been wanting to start a garden. I have a 3/4 of an acre lot so I have plenty of room. My neighbor has had a garden in the past and he keeps telling me I need to dig out 2 feet of soil and have truckloads of soil and rock brought in. I must admit if that is what it is going to take then it will never happen. I remember my dad having a garden growing up and he would grab the tiller and tear up a piece of land, throw some manure and fertilizer on it, till it in and have a beautiful garden. I know you must have decent soil.

So I want to try to start a garden with the soil I have. I can grab the fertilizer and manure and till in. I would like to grow tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, carrots, onions, melons, potatoes, etc.... Not much into the seasoning plants.

So what pointers and recommendations could you give me to try and start this. At least I can give it a try and see if the soil will support a good garden.

Thanks
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/13/14 08:53 PM

Just break the soil up, add fertilizer, row it up and give it a try. Add compost if it's available. Stop and visit a farmer.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/13/14 08:56 PM

Do a raised garden TBS....the rest is too much work. Think I am going all container gardening this year minus the squash. Even doing my onions in pots.


I think the pots will help me manage the hot sun/different weather easier.....JMO and I am sure some will have better advice than me. Maybe check out "lasagna gardening" on google
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/13/14 09:15 PM

Make a plan first.

Pick a sunny spot, cut out any grass, do a soil test (optional), till it up, make some rows and plant.


post pics
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/13/14 10:06 PM

My take is that tomatoes are the easiest, and the most fun to grow. You simply can't go to the store and buy home grown tomatoes. Next is onions. They always do well for me. Bell peppers can be difficult.

I've always had problems with bitter cucumbers. I plan on mixing in potting soil this year.
Posted By: TBS

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/13/14 10:27 PM

These suggestions are what I was hoping for. I have a place that would be in the morning and daytime sun but in the shade in the late evening, say 6 till night. Would this be a good place since it would be protected from the hot evening sun or do I put it where it is in the sun all the time.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/13/14 10:31 PM

sounds like a perfect spot
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/13/14 10:40 PM

Bingo! Blossom end rot can be a problem with tomatoes. Put lime or Epsom salts under them when you put them.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/13/14 11:08 PM

Originally Posted By: takewhatyoucan64
sounds like a perfect spot
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/13/14 11:37 PM

Originally Posted By: phat694
Originally Posted By: takewhatyoucan64
sounds like a perfect spot
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/14/14 12:08 AM



An old gentleman lived alone in New Jersey. He wanted to plant his annual tomato garden, but it was very difficult work, as the ground was hard. His only son, Vincent, who used to help him, was in prison. The old man wrote a letter to his son and described his predicament.

Dear Vincent,
I am feeling pretty sad because it looks like I won't be able to plant my tomato garden this year. I'm just getting too old to be digging up a garden plot. I know if you were here my troubles would be over. I know you would be happy to dig the plot for me, like the old days.
Love,
Papa

A few days later he received a letter from his son.

Dear Papa,
Don't dig up that garden. That's where the bodies are buried.
Love,
Vinnie

At 4 a.m. the next morning, FBI agents and local police arrived and dug up the entire area without finding any bodies. They apologized to the old man and left. That same day the old man received another letter from his son.

Dear Papa,
Go ahead and plant the tomatoes now. That's the best I could do under the circumstances.
Love you,
Vinnie
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/14/14 12:17 AM

That was great Bill... roflmao
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/14/14 01:49 PM

Ha! Great plot on helping out his dad!
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/14/14 01:54 PM

Fruit tree planting ???

we have one peach tree that we planted about 5 or 6 years ago but it has never produced much, pruned properly each year ... 1 peach in '12 and not one in '13. I am going to yank it up with my front end loader (great BBQ smoking wood) and replace with a plum tree ...

When is the proper time to plant a plum tree?

Any recommendations on what variety of plum tree we should look for?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/14/14 03:21 PM

You can plant plum trees now, I like Methley.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/14/14 03:24 PM

thanks! I wish I knew what kind my grandmother & parents used to have, they were fairly small, very dark purplish color, firm & on the tart side. Makes great jelly!

any special prep I need to do before planting? potting soil, fertilizer, mulch on top, etc.?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/14/14 03:27 PM

I'm trying a couple of new things for my seeds this year.

I got a seedling mat to get consistent warmth under them.



My winter tomatoes are in the background


I'm also changing to full spectrum lights to see if it helps with photosynthesis





Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/14/14 03:28 PM

Originally Posted By: PMK
thanks! I wish I knew what kind my grandmother & parents used to have, they were fairly small, very dark purplish color, firm & on the tart side. Makes great jelly!

any special prep I need to do before planting? potting soil, fertilizer, mulch on top, etc.?


Are you getting container trees?
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/14/14 03:31 PM

yep, not sure what size container though ... 3-8 gallon I am guessing ... will get from a local nursery
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/14/14 03:33 PM

You can dig the hole then fill with water to see if it drains properly.

I'd put in some slow release fertilizer when you plant the tree.

If you add mulch make sure it doesn't cut/rub on the tree.

Some say stake it some say don't, I stake new trees for a year.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/14/14 03:48 PM

ok, sounds pretty much like I had planted the peach tree that I am removing ... and the other peach tree we planted fall of '12 that produced like crazy in '13 (if you recall the pictures I posted during prime peach season).
what about pollenation or cross pollenation? ... do I need to have multiple trees of the same species around?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/14/14 04:05 PM

Methley doesn't need cross pollination if you plant Bruce you will need a couple to cross.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/14/14 04:59 PM

I feel whole again. I just finished putting our 160 onion sets. The tiller was a little hard to start, but a little squirt of started got it going. The ground was a little more moist than perfect, but I managed to get them in anyway.

I had forgotten why I was not planting anymore white onions. It seems as if there were as many as 1/3 of them that put out seed pods. They don't make good onions that way.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/14 12:54 AM

I'm itch'n to start some pepper seeds....way to early?
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/14 10:24 PM

Payne, you will like the heat mat. The first time I used one, I was impressed with the improved germination. They will all germinate within 2-3days of each other. I also experimented a bit and left the mat under one of the trays after I moved them to bigger cups. The ones on the mat developed better roots and grew faster. They actually got ready way before I could plant them.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/14 11:53 PM

Thanks Cobra,

I hated that, half the seeds would come right up and the other half a week or two later. Can't wait..
Posted By: texretvet

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/14 02:37 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
The feed store here is suppose to get some more 1015 sets this week. Let me know if you can't find any and I'll mail you some.


Thanks for the offer! They had them at Home Depot last week so I picked some up there.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/14 03:18 PM

Posted By: Frenzy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/14 03:37 PM

Wow! Looks great!
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/14 06:31 PM

I'm going to plant 1015's and red onions today. Does anybody know where to get hot Spanish onions? Years ago I had some at Cooper's BBQ in Mason and really liked them.
Posted By: Play Maker

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/20/14 01:17 AM

I plan on doing a raised bed garden this year. My garden area is 70'x70'. The soil is great in this area but encroaching common Bermuda and Johnson grass are a constant problem.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/21/14 03:36 PM

we went with the Methley plum tree and I finally looked at the peach tree that produced off the chart last summer that we planted in fall '12, Sam Houston. Thanks for the recommendation on the plum tree.

on to the next point ... looks like we will be having another hard freeze in central Texas tonight with another blast Thursday night into Friday with possible freezing rain/sleet. My peach tree is already starting to bud ... what can I do to protect it from these freezing conditions???
Posted By: reeder05

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/22/14 03:56 AM

Originally Posted By: Play Maker
I plan on doing a raised bed garden this year. My garden area is 70'x70'. The soil is great in this area but encroaching common Bermuda and Johnson grass are a constant problem.


I had Bermuda grass in the area I made my raised garden bed. One sheet of newspaper on the ground before I back filled with dirt worked good for me.

Plugging onion sets this weekend!!
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/23/14 05:39 PM

The wife sewed two queen size bed sheets together last night and we covered the little peach tree that is starting to bloom, tying the bottom with spring clothes pins ... she sent me a picture this morning of the sheets laying on the ground following the winds coming thru. Have to formulate a plan B now ...

thinking of using 3 or 4 light end drop cords and hanging from the branches for the radiant heat from the bulbs. I will also figure out some way to put the sheets back up where the wind won't blow them off.

any other suggestions or thoughts?
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/23/14 07:00 PM

why dont you wrap it with Christmas lights
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/23/14 07:11 PM

I don't think the buds are in as much danger as blooms would be.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/23/14 10:58 PM

I gave the Christmas lights serious thought until I realized we converted over to LED several years ago and the old style that throw off heat went to Goodwill ...

I agree with you Bill, but my wife doesn't ... and it's her baby since it put on so many peaches last year... bang
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/23/14 11:32 PM

take a garbage bag and cut the bottom off, slide over the tree to the base, then another if you have to then put a one uncut over the top and gorilla tape the pieces together.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/24/14 05:21 PM

the top portion of the tree is probably 6-7 feet in diameter if not slightly larger, no trash bags that big. We hung the drop cord lights, 4x, in the tree overnight and upon inspection this morning, there wasn't any ice on that tree ... seemed to have worked okay! truth will tell in a few months when its time for the fruit to show up. thanks!
Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/26/14 05:53 PM

I've been looking for a tomato that would stand up to the harsh conditions right here on the coast. A neighbor turned me on to one that he has grown down here successfully for a couple of years. It's called Texas Wild cherry tomato. He said they were found growing wild in South Texas in some pretty rough conditions. He grows it in poor soil, rarely waters it, and only gives it a shovel full of composted cow manure at planting time. It grows like the weed it is, rambling everywhere.
He gave me a bowl of them to try and, since they are open pollenated, save some of the seed to grow. They taste awesome! They are very small, about 1/2" in diameter. The plant is crazy prolific though. He couldn't eat them and give them away fast enough so a lot of the fruit dropped to the ground and reseeded itself for the next year.
I've got a few started under a grow light for this year, they are about an inch high now. I was warned to only plant one plant because it's so prolific.
Just thought I'd pass that along to any other folks who have some challenging growing conditions. I'll let yall know how they work for me this year.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/27/14 07:39 PM

planted blackberry, raspberry and blueberries yesterday. Next up is a few peach and plum trees and to start the small(about 50-60 grape vines) vineyard.

Except for squash think I am going 5 gallon bucket containers within a container(for easy watering) on everything this year
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/27/14 11:08 PM

Just a helpful tip...the 5 gallon buckets dry out really quickly. I usually do tomatoes and peppers in them and in june and july I am watering twice a day. this year they are going in the ground
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/27/14 11:19 PM

that's why I do a container in a container.......let me see if I can find what I do in a link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRkooiwqc6A
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/27/14 11:25 PM

A few pics of the seedings



Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/27/14 11:53 PM

Those are not your seedlings. Those are your babies. I couldn't do it. I would never put them out.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/27/14 11:57 PM

LOL, yes they are. I transplanted them into larger containers this weekend.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/14 12:32 AM

Phat what is the soil wrapped in?
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/14 12:37 AM

Its a very thin mesh netting that comes off easily. You can see in the pics the peat pods are compressed and when you add water they expand. They worked very well.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/14 12:24 AM

I planted a row of potatoes today. Implanted reds and whites. I planted them whole.
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/03/14 02:41 PM

I've been wanting raised beds for years so I finally tilled up the garden and got it done.

Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/03/14 02:49 PM

AdvTX, that looks awesome. I thought your previous garden was very cool too. I planted about 300 onions a couple of weeks ago. Northaven Gardens had a good selection. I'll bet Zoe and the chickens will like your new setup.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/03/14 03:29 PM

Looks great man
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/14 12:51 AM

Originally Posted By: AdvTX
I've been wanting raised beds for years so I finally tilled up the garden and got it done.





Wow! How will you till it?
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/14 02:49 PM

I'm hoping once I top it off with some good soil and amendments that it will become the NO till zone...

Thank y'all I will post some more pics in a month
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/14 02:58 PM

Looks great Adv
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/06/14 08:03 PM

Started some seeds today. Mostly tomatoes with some peppers.



Winter celebrity tomato



Started these for the pepper challenge



Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/06/14 08:28 PM

Looks great Payne

That peacock is BA

Started some seeds last night

Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/06/14 08:52 PM

I really enjoy this time of year. Lots to be done to my garden to get it ready. Its too damn cold though.

My garden usually sucks so I live vicariously through yalls.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/14 12:08 AM

I'm putting in some store bought tomato plants the next time I Google 10 frost nights. I'll take the risk. I really like to have the first home grown tomatoes.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/14 12:50 AM

Bill start some seeds man, I dont think store bought plants and home grown tomatoes can go together
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/14 02:34 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Bill start some seeds man, I dont think store bought plants and home grown tomatoes can go together


It's too much like losing your babies when the frost or a cutworms gets them.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/14 07:19 PM

It has begun.

My problem is the GRASS. It comes in thick and eventually takes over. I sprayed vinegar last year. It helped but not much.

Thoughts on how to keep the grass out? Right now its down to dirt and grass roots.

before


after
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/14 07:43 PM

Do you have access to a tiller?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/14 09:57 PM

Yes sir. I do till the areas that I plant in every year. Basically I turn it and add compost at the same time. I've tilled the entire area 2 years ago and pulled the grass out. Grass came back. Right now its dirt and roots.

I thought maybe I should tarp off the whole area until I plant hoping it will kill the grass then lay mulch down and more plastic between the plants. I don't know.

I can pull crab grass. Pulling bermuda isn't easy.

I would like to widen the garden to my peach trees but that just means more damn grass to kill grin
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/14 10:21 PM

You can tarp it after the end of your growing season, just leave it on until next season. You could lay fabric and cut holes to plant this season, cuts down on weeding also. If you're really mad at the grass you could use round up, not my favorite suggestion. Let us know what you did and if it worked. Good Luck
Posted By: blackcoal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/14 04:28 AM

In the past two weeks I have bagged over 100 large trash bags full of leaves. Most are sycamore, if anyone wants them for composting or mulch they can have them. No, I will not deliver. PM, I will not check this post..

Mods, you can move this if you wish, wasn't certain of best place to post it.
Posted By: blackcoal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/14 04:29 AM

In the past two weeks I have bagged over 100 large trash bags full of leaves. Most are sycamore, if anyone wants them for composting or mulch they can have them. No, I will not deliver. PM, I will not check this post..

Mods, you can move this if you wish, wasn't certain of best place to post it.
Posted By: Play Maker

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/14 07:34 PM

I purchased a few fruit trees and am looking for input before I plant. I purchased one Methley and one Santa Rosa plum tree as well as one Ranger and one Harvester peach tree. They are all five gallon container trees. Should I doing any pruning before I plant? Any amendments besides applying root stimulator?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/12/14 03:47 PM

Did you plant them already?
Posted By: Play Maker

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/12/14 06:29 PM

Not yet. I will either today or tomorrow.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/12/14 06:37 PM

http://www.davewilson.com/home-gardens/growing-fruits-and-nuts/planting-your-backyard-orchard
Posted By: Play Maker

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/12/14 06:53 PM

Thank you.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/12/14 06:57 PM

You're Welcome

Good Luck
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/13/14 02:23 AM




Started eggplant, artichoke, red/green/yellow/orange/purple bell peppers, jalapeno & cayenne peppers today.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/13/14 02:46 AM

how are those GH tomatoes in the back ground doing?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/13/14 02:54 AM

They are producing slowly. I get a few during the week, smaller then normal. I'm going to transplant them to the garden to see what kind of yields I'll get.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/13/14 04:02 AM

Toledo window box?
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/13/14 10:31 PM

Getting some natural light and wind.



Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/13/14 10:35 PM

Those look great phat
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/13/14 10:41 PM

Wow!

Payne, did your fall onions ever bulb?
Posted By: Play Maker

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/14 01:28 AM

I never do well with tomatoes. The plants are big and beautiful, but rarely produce. I'm going to plant all tomatoes in raised beds this year in a soil concoction that the nursery is going to make. Hopefully, this will produce better results.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/14 01:54 AM

Thanks East.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/14 01:14 PM

Originally Posted By: phat694
Thanks East.


Did you call me East?!?!?!?

SHame
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/14 01:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Originally Posted By: phat694
Thanks East.


Did you call me East?!?!?!?

SHame


Oh man.....I'm sorry Payne!!! roflmao
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/14 01:44 PM

YOU SHOULD FEEL HONORED!!!!!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/14 02:04 PM

I feel anger, disgust and shame
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/14 04:51 PM

You may need therapy to get over it.
Posted By: TreeBass

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/15/14 02:48 AM

Just planted potatoes, and started my greenhouse plants: tomatoes, squash, cucumber, chile pequins, herbs, spinach and several others.

Pics later, but my garden is a mess, I hate weeds
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/15/14 03:51 AM

Originally Posted By: TreeBass
Just planted potatoes, and started my greenhouse plants: tomatoes, squash, cucumber, chile pequins, herbs, spinach and several others.

Pics later, but my garden is a mess, I hate weeds


Lets see the green house, and I will be honest. I thought you quit THF, first post I have seen in a long time
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/15/14 03:59 AM

Originally Posted By: TreeBass
Just planted potatoes, and started my greenhouse plants: tomatoes, squash, cucumber, chile pequins, herbs, spinach and several others.

Pics later, but my garden is a mess, I hate weeds


We're not here to judge.....
Posted By: TreeBass

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/15/14 04:47 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Originally Posted By: TreeBass
Just planted potatoes, and started my greenhouse plants: tomatoes, squash, cucumber, chile pequins, herbs, spinach and several others.

Pics later, but my garden is a mess, I hate weeds


Lets see the green house, and I will be honest. I thought you quit THF, first post I have seen in a long time


Not an actual greenhouse, but those small pellet in a plastic like this http://www.walmart.com/ip/Ferry-Morse-Jiffy-Professional-Greenhouse-Kit/19243095

I'll get pics up in a bit of the the before, hopefully the after will follow up by Monday. If it's cold, I'm not out there.

I've been around, dealing with admin stuff and not posting too much, just a lot of family issues in the last few months up
Posted By: TreeBass

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/15/14 10:18 PM

Posted By: TreeBass

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/16/14 10:05 PM

Three hours later

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/16/14 10:10 PM

cheers
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/16/14 11:31 PM

Nice TreeBass, lookin good.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/17/14 05:36 PM

I'm putting in 6 better boy tomato plants today. I couldn't find celebrities. I'll keep looking and put a dozen of them in when I find them. This will at least give me a start on some early tomatoes. I don't see any nights in or near frost temperature as far out as the forecast goes.
Posted By: TreeBass

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/14 03:29 PM

In the ground Bill? I wont make that mistake again like last year. the late freezes got several of my plants, and I ended up getting behind.

I'm loving my new greenhouse trays, cucumbers have already come up in just 3 days eek2
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/14 03:30 PM

Same here, I lost everything

Good thing I started way to many seeds last year
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/14 03:38 PM

Originally Posted By: TreeBass
In the ground Bill? I wont make that mistake again like last year. the late freezes got several of my plants, and I ended up getting behind.

I'm loving my new greenhouse trays, cucumbers have already come up in just 3 days eek2


Yep, in the ground. I pulled them up once last year to save them. It's only a couple of dollars if I lose the.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/14 04:00 PM

Just to have the first tomato?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/14 04:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Just to have the first tomato?



Yep! I know I'm repeating myself, but I grew up on a cotton farm in Arkansas. There was always a celebration when the first bale of cotton went to the gin. It's the same way in my neighborhood when the first outdoor home grown tomatoes come in. (Come in is a country term for ready to harvest.) It only takes less than 10 minutes of my time. My drippers will protect them from a light frost. I really don't have anything else to do after quail season and before I start fishing saltwater.
Posted By: TreeBass

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/19/14 02:49 AM

My tomatoes, cucumbers, and herbs have broke ground....liking this greenhouse thing up

Now if only my chile pequins grow, I'll be a happy man
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/19/14 02:30 PM

What kind of tomatoes are you growing?
Posted By: bhunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/19/14 06:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Play Maker
I never do well with tomatoes. The plants are big and beautiful, but rarely produce. I'm going to plant all tomatoes in raised beds this year in a soil concoction that the nursery is going to make. Hopefully, this will produce better results.


Take you one metal clothes hanger and whip the hell out of them when they get too bushy and are not producing....
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/19/14 08:52 PM

I've never seen tomatoes not produce. A friend emailed me last year about his tomatoes that got enough sunshine and really big vines. I guessed that he had too much nitrogen. He emailed me later that they were now loaded.
Posted By: TreeBass

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/21/14 02:02 AM

I have cherries, better boy and something else mama picked out. I forgot to start my Jalepenos bang
Posted By: texretvet

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/21/14 04:14 AM

I finally got onions down yesterday and planted cabbage plants today. Gonna try to get seed potatoes put in tomorrow.
Posted By: texretvet

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/21/14 04:20 AM

This is my newest garden toy. I bought it from a guy being transferred to Arizona by his job. He couldn't get it to run when he pulled it out of the barn and sold it to me for $200.

When I got it home, found out that the starter switch was bad and was able to start it right up. My dad drained the gas and took the carb off and cleaned it and now the thing runs like a top. Just have to use a jumper cable straight from the battery to the starter to get it going.

Tilled the garden with it yesterday!

Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/21/14 04:29 AM

Nice find texretvet
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/21/14 01:44 PM

Originally Posted By: phat694
Nice find texretvet


YEP! I had a neighbor who had one of those 35 years ago. He could not make up rows with his, but otherwise it did a great job.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/21/14 04:27 PM

Originally Posted By: texretvet
This is my newest garden toy. I bought it from a guy being transferred to Arizona by his job. He couldn't get it to run when he pulled it out of the barn and sold it to me for $200.

When I got it home, found out that the starter switch was bad and was able to start it right up. My dad drained the gas and took the carb off and cleaned it and now the thing runs like a top. Just have to use a jumper cable straight from the battery to the starter to get it going.

Tilled the garden with it yesterday!

Dang good find!!! After you get done tilling your garden, do you want your money back???
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/21/14 09:54 PM

Put some strawberries in planters today.







Also planted some berries and a couple of apple trees.







I was hoping this one would ripen on the vine but it fell off when I was moving the planters.

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/21/14 10:08 PM

You the man Payne. Don't let your dogs get near anything planted with the blood meal. I know. I've been there.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/21/14 11:17 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
You the man Payne. Don't let your dogs get near anything planted with the blood meal. I know. I've been there.


What happens if they get into it?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/21/14 11:38 PM

It will make them vomit, have diarrhea and pancreatitis.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/14 12:52 AM

What has blood meal in it?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/14 01:07 AM

I put blood meal in the strawberry planters
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/14 01:24 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
I put blood meal in the strawberry planters


Fertilizer? What does it do?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/14 01:28 AM

yep 12-0-0
Posted By: texretvet

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/14 06:08 AM

[/quote] Dang good find!!! After you get done tilling your garden, do you want your money back??? [/quote]

HaHa. Sorry, but I think this one is a keeper.


Payne - I think I'm gonna try some strawberries like that. I have planted them over the past couple years and never got them to produce.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/14 04:48 PM

Nice tiller you got there texretvet. How did it till? pics?

I've had the same problems, birds/squirrels/rabbits were eating mine. I think I can control that better with them being in the planters.
Posted By: Navasot

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/14 04:53 PM

Originally Posted By: texretvet
This is my newest garden toy. I bought it from a guy being transferred to Arizona by his job. He couldn't get it to run when he pulled it out of the barn and sold it to me for $200.

When I got it home, found out that the starter switch was bad and was able to start it right up. My dad drained the gas and took the carb off and cleaned it and now the thing runs like a top. Just have to use a jumper cable straight from the battery to the starter to get it going.

Tilled the garden with it yesterday!



That thing is worth much more than that... good stout built machines!
Posted By: Navasot

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/14 04:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Nice tiller you got there texretvet. How did it till? pics?

I've had the same problems, birds/squirrels/rabbits were eating mine. I think I can control that better with them being in the planters.


and a shotgun, lawn chair, cold drink
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/14 11:46 PM

I didn't even notice te big of blood meal. Carry on
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/14 12:35 AM

[quote=East]I didn't even notice te big of blood meal. Carry on [/qu



How many beers have you had?
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/14 03:22 AM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
[quote=East]I didn't even notice te big of blood meal. Carry on [/qu



How many beers have you had?


That's what I said roflmao
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/14 05:22 AM

Got 2 of the raised beds filled and added amendment from the compost. Hopefully not too hot. Lower beds need to be sprayed, bad mess it is. Maybe instead of spraying I will put my chickens in there for a day or two???
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/14 09:27 PM

Probly gonna till up my little garden this weekend, I have been raking my pigeon poo up & putting it in a small compost, the compost is already pretty much full & all it has is pigeon poo, pigeon food & pine needles, should I dump all this into my garden & till it in? Or move it into a bigger compost & wait a year, I have only had a pigeon coop since august so it has not been mixed around hardly at all.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/14 10:23 PM

I would move it to a larger pot/pile and wait a year. Actually I would make East build you a BA composter for taking him fishing & hunting but that's just me. I'd add leaves, grass and any scraps you have from the kitchen or garden.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/14 12:02 AM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Probly gonna till up my little garden this weekend, I have been raking my pigeon poo up & putting it in a small compost, the compost is already pretty much full & all it has is pigeon poo, pigeon food & pine needles, should I dump all this into my garden & till it in? Or move it into a bigger compost & wait a year, I have only had a pigeon coop since august so it has not been mixed around hardly at all.


My next door neighbor was a bird dogger just like you and me. He also was a vegetable gardener. We went together to buy some pen raised quail. I looked at all the quail dung and asked about getting some for my garden. Later that week I was in the feed store and saw some big tomato plants with golf ball size tomatoes. They were $3.50 each. I bought two, and put them in ate the end of my tomato row. I had $7.00 worth of fun out of those 2 tomato plants. The neighbor stopped by to look at my garden, and commented on the two plants. I acted surprised, and replied that I had planted them over some of the quail dung.
Posted By: Wesomac

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/14 12:05 AM

Busy planting gardens at school. Have no idea what I'm doing, but the kids love it!!
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/14 01:28 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
I would move it to a larger pot/pile and wait a year. Actually I would make East build you a BA composter for taking him fishing & hunting but that's just me. I'd add leaves, grass and any scraps you have from the kitchen or garden.


As you see, no response from East. Guess I'll have to make my own. crying
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/14 12:11 PM

Typical East.

When it warms up and he wants to hit the lake show him this.

Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/14 02:52 PM

Ooh, I like that.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/14 03:00 PM

He's working on a parts/lumber list as we speak. Said he'd be there tomorrow. Congratulations
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/14 03:00 PM

WTH is this all about?

Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/14 03:04 PM

It's cool if you want to tweak the design a bit man.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/14 05:49 PM

Progress....

I ended up spraying the grass roots with orange oil and 20% vinegar. Then I put down mesh stuff (multiple layers) and 2 yards of mulch. It's coming along.

I hope to plant in 3 weeks.



Originally Posted By: texretvet


What a score. Congrats.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/14 05:54 PM

Looking good. I got mine tilled up, rowed & covered with weed barrier & mulch. Too dang cold & wet to do anything today.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/14 05:57 PM

That looks great Chickenman, nice mannequin.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/14 07:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
That looks great Chickenman, nice mannequin.


Thats Sheryl Crow. Shes pretty awesome and never talks back.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/14 08:24 PM

awesome

golfclap
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/14 01:57 PM

Haven't been out to the garden yet after this cold front, but thinking my Broccoli will be history. Potatoes weren't up yet, so I will see with those later. Actually had a couple blooms on the 3 year old Peach trees, but those are probably froze as well.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/14 02:22 PM

I covered my 6 tomato plants but know that cover will not prevent a hard freeze. I'll uncover them Wednesday and find out. It could be $1.65 down the drain. The onions are doing fine and the potatoes are still in the ground.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/14 02:50 PM

I had about 5 spinach plants about 4" tall I covered. I'll see how they did later today.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/14 07:24 PM

Well, 1st inspection doesn't look too bad! I expected to find dead broccoli, but all standing proud so far bang
Posted By: Navasot

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/14 07:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Chickenman
Originally Posted By: Payne
That looks great Chickenman, nice mannequin.


Thats Sheryl Crow. Shes pretty awesome and never talks back.



Posted By: DENTPUSHA

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/14 02:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Chickenman
Originally Posted By: Payne
That looks great Chickenman, nice mannequin.


Thats Sheryl Crow. Shes pretty awesome and never talks back.



That is pretty awesome.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/14 11:08 PM

Thinking the cold a few days ago, will end up killing the broccoli. Don't know if I would have time to get new ones in the ground before it gets to hot for them??
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/14 11:12 PM

seeds are cheap
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/14 11:37 PM

True, but I would use the sets. Just hate to waste garden space on something that will die out in the heat. I think Brocolli is 80-90 day maturity, so I might be able to get a few.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/14 12:23 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I covered my 6 tomato plants but know that cover will not prevent a hard freeze. I'll uncover them Wednesday and find out. It could be $1.65 down the drain. The onions are doing fine and the potatoes are still in the ground.


Looks as if we'll all have a late garden this spring. I lost 3 of my tomatoes. I had planned to put out another dozen today until I saw this morning's 7 day forecast. The forecast is for a low of 33 degrees next Thursday night. I've seen seed potatoes rot in the ground on wet cold springs.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/14 01:11 PM

Bill, I hope my potatoes don't, but all the signs are there as you describe. My onions actually took a beating as well. I haven't even thought about tomatoes yet, a week or 2 for me.
Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/14 05:41 PM

I covered my few tomatoes with clear plastic totes over the cold weather. They not only survived, but grew a little and two of them put on blossoms. My little "greenhouses" worked out pretty good.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/14 02:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Bill, I hope my potatoes don't, but all the signs are there as you describe. My onions actually took a beating as well. I haven't even thought about tomatoes yet, a week or 2 for me.


I saw a little crack on the top of my potato row yesterday and scraped some soil away. There was the white sprout of the top of a potato. Looks as if I'll have at least one. My onions are doing fine.

Palehourse you're a little farther south. I may stop by a pick a couple of tomatoes on my first fishing trip.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/14 02:35 PM

I may go dig in a potato row and see whats going on as well. Broccoli looks to be a bust, the 13* and 0* wind chill was just to much, may try a fall planting.

Your growing season is a bit longer than mine.
Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/14 08:26 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
[quote=Western]

Palehourse you're a little farther south. I may stop by a pick a couple of tomatoes on my first fishing trip.

You bet. I'll even throw in a cold beer to go with it!
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/14 10:54 PM

Put in a drip system and transplanted some broccoli and spinach.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/14 10:55 PM

Looks great phat
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/14 10:58 PM

Nice looks great
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/14 01:59 AM

Thanks guys. I kinda want to put a few mater plants out but I don't know if we are safe to do so yet.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/14 02:12 AM

I am going to wait at least another 2-3 weeks. I got burned last year bad, and if it wouldnt have been for my stupidity of planting to many seeds I would of been SOL.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/14 02:17 AM

I have a few I can test out 3-4 or so. They are getting to big to live under the lights together. If the first few don't make it, I'll have plenty in reserve.
Posted By: Team Hillbilly

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/14 04:44 PM

I think I'd wait a little longer on those mater plants you could cover them nightly but the ground is still wet & cold
Posted By: n-all

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/14 09:16 PM

better hurry up..you can cover em..
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/14 09:45 PM

We have another front coming through toward the end of the week. I plan to plant after that.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/14 12:11 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
We have another front coming through toward the end of the week. I plan to plant after that.


X's 2 up
Posted By: larrywoodson

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/14 07:36 PM

well between the past freeze and one rabbit. i lost half of my garden. it was still in the early stages. i plan on replanting after this weekend. put up a fance last weekend to keep the rabbit out.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/14 01:07 AM

I made a mini green house set up with some 4 mil plastic sheathing ($9.99 @ HD). I planted 4 plants on Monday, I couldnt resist. The set up should keep the plants plenty warm.
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/14 01:34 AM

This may have been discussed somewhere in the previous pages but what varieties of tomatoes are you guys planting?

I'd like to can some this year. I'll get flamed hard for this but I don't even eat them fresh but my wife does. I'll eat them cooked in anything but not fresh.

I don't have a lot of room but I'm thinking one cherry and a couple other bigger tomatoes of some kind.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/14 12:55 PM

I made a small 4x8 elevated bed that works well with easy access and plant 2 rows of 4 plants each row. We usually put in a couple of Celebrity, a couple of Early Girl, a couple Heatwave and a couple of Cherry (not sure of the variety but buy at local nursery). We used to use tubs that cattle mineral feed came in about 2 foot diameter & 2 foot tall with small holes drilled each quarter at the bottom for drainage, using uncrushed aluminum cans in the bottom with garden soil on top (reduced the weight for easier moving).
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/14 01:06 PM

For whatever reason, I get three times more tomatoes from Celebrity plants than any other and they taste awesome, I have tried Roma, Early girl, Better boy, Big boy & Beefsteak but never get more than a few tomatoes from each. The past three years I have planted some Celebrities and have had more tomatoes than I know what to do with. This year, I bought 16 celebrity plants & that's it. (I'll probably get a couple of cherry tomato plants)
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/14 01:10 PM

CC, same here on most you mentioned, did poor last year, so I will try some Celebrity. We grow the Roma's since the wife makes homemade Spaghetti sauce and they are great for that. Cherry tomatoes did OK last year, but where heaviest late summer. Got squat from the beefsteaks and betterboy!
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/14 01:13 PM

I have done decent with Romas also, & Cherries almost always make some but I cant get much at all out of the others.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/14 02:01 PM

I've tried most of those. I'm planting Supersweet 100 cherry, Celebrity and Early Girl. I usually try something different every year. So this year I'm going to try some grape tomatoes and Amelia tomatoes.

Tore up the fall garden yesterday and have a lot of brussel sprouts I need to harvest. I'm going to disc (proper spelling Bill) the garden on Friday. Release the ladybugs, preying mantis and nematodes early next week. I'm hoping to plant mid week, just depends on the weather.





Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/14 07:35 PM

tomatoes that I planted this year

4 - Rio Grande
4 - Goliath
2 - Sun Sugar (cherry)
2 - Golden Nugget (cherry)
4 - Ace 55
2 - Roma
2 - Super Sweet 100 (large cherry)
2 - Celebrity
2 - Beefsteak
Posted By: My best friend has a tail

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/14 07:40 PM

Do you live in mater city, wow. can you send pics of your garden? food
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/14 07:48 PM

I plant celebrities only. I like my tomato slice to cover my whole sandwich. I cut off a third of the stem end and seed them when I make salsa or marinara, and always add tomato paste.
Posted By: Navasot

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/14 07:49 PM

Payne them pigs are loving life right now
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/14 07:50 PM

Key words Nav

right now.....
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/14 07:50 PM

Yep, those pigs look very pleased!
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/14 07:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Key words Nav

right now.....


clap
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/14 08:00 PM

rofl
Posted By: Navasot

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/14 09:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Key words Nav

right now.....
roflmao
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/14 11:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Key words Nav

right now.....


All good things come to an end grin
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/14 08:39 PM




Mushroom compost people have been out of stock for a couple of months. They won't even return calls bang


So I used 10-20-10.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/14 10:21 PM

What's so good about mushroom compost?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/14 10:45 PM

It's an amendment to the soil. I'm trying to build the garden a foot or so above ground level also.

I use to get it for $40 for 3 yards. They sell it in 50# bags from 8-11$.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/14 07:53 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
It's an amendment to the soil. I'm trying to build the garden a foot or so above ground level also.

I use to get it for $40 for 3 yards. They sell it in 50# bags from 8-11$.



eek
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/14 12:52 PM

I'm in horse country. You can buy the composted wood shavings around here pretty cheap. I've gotten it free in the past.

About half of my potatoes are now breaking through. I put in another dozen tomatoes and some bell peppers yesterday. I'm having a difficult time finding the 4 pack plants. Fingers crossed.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/14 01:31 PM

Bill, Allot of horses here as well and offers all the time to get rid of the pooh and bedding (free). How has it worked for you?. I always hear to stay clear of it, unless it is well mulched for a year??
Posted By: stxranchman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/14 01:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Key words Nav

right now.....

Will there be a pick a number pig day in the future? grin
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/14 01:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Bill, Allot of horses here as well and offers all the time to get rid of the pooh and bedding (free). How has it worked for you?. I always hear to stay clear of it, unless it is well mulched for a year??


Mine was pretty well composted. It worked fine. I haven't used it in several years. I don't have the energy anymore. I have a decent texture to my garden soil.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/14 02:21 PM

Absolutely stx
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/14 12:00 AM

I'm making the rounds tomorrow to buy all my seedlings. I don't plan to plant any seeds this year unless its straight neck yellow squash. It's difficult to find the seedlings for them.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/14 05:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Absolutely stx


clap
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/14 09:05 PM

Got it tilled up




Marked the rows with the fourwheeler




Watering it in



Released the ladybugs



Praying mantis egg case



Nematodes mixture, spread them around in the garden.

Posted By: Navasot

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/14 09:14 PM

Looks like the egg case from predator vs alien
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/14 09:38 PM

Dang Payne, now I'm tired from seeing all you're work!
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/14 12:32 PM

Looks good Payne. I'm debating about whether or not I should plant my tomatoes this weekend. Probably gonna wait one more week, or at least wait & see the 10 day forecast on Monday & decide from there.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/14 01:13 PM

Thanks

Do you ever look at the farmers almanac web site?

Some interesting info on there. Check out their garden section.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/14 01:21 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Looks good Payne. I'm debating about whether or not I should plant my tomatoes this weekend. Probably gonna wait one more week, or at least wait & see the 10 day forecast on Monday & decide from there.


Did you start your own or plan to buy them?
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/14 01:24 PM

I already bought my 16 Celebrity plants. Just need to grab some pepper plants & I'm good to go. I have some Cherry Tomato plants I started from seed but I am going to grow them on my front porch in containers.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/14 07:30 PM

I'm ready to plant







Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/14 08:03 PM

Looks great. I wish I still had our energy Payne. How old are you?
Posted By: Navasot

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/14 08:14 PM

Payne your a robot arnt you
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/14 09:01 PM

Does anyone have any idea about how to prevent evenly watered bitter cucumbers? Last year even my burpless cucumbers had a hint of bitter. I have a couple of sacks of Miracle Grow potting soil from last year that I plan to work into each of my two hills, along with limestone and Epsom salts. I don't know what else to try.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/14 03:28 AM

Damn Payne. Looks great as usual.

I got beefsteak tomatoes and some other stuff planted. Still have 20 or so to go.

Posted By: HillCountryHotRodMan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/14 04:39 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Does anyone have any idea about how to prevent evenly watered bitter cucumbers? Last year even my burpless cucumbers had a hint of bitter. I have a couple of sacks of Miracle Grow potting soil from last year that I plan to work into each of my two hills, along with limestone and Epsom salts. I don't know what else to try.


Were your cucumbers heat stressed? Down here near San Anton' we have issues with this.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/14 04:41 PM

O.K., I've been on every weather website known to man & none of them show anymore freezing temps for my area. Also took Paynes advise & checked out farmers Almanac website, it's time to get my Tomato plants in the ground, I may even do it this evening.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/14 04:48 PM

I planted tomatoes and peppers yesterday.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/14 04:54 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
I planted tomatoes and peppers yesterday.


I got in 12 tomatoes yesterday as well, buried them to the armpits too! Have peppers on the counter, but waiting to be told where they go grin May have to get more Romas, only had 8 and the wife wants to can sauce. Going to try the Celebrity you guys recommended, hopefully they get the job done this time.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/14 05:02 PM

hoping to get everything planted by the end of the week.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/14 12:52 AM

Got 12 Tomato plants in. Came in to take a break & get a shot, never made it back out confused2 I will probably plant 4 more down that right side of the onions so they won't shade them & plant 4 jalapeo plants down the left side.


Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/14 12:54 AM

Looks great CC
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/14 03:33 PM

Looking good bud
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/14 06:27 PM

CC and Payne, y'all s gardens look great up I have only used mulch, or nothing at all, so what are you guys using for fabric? And are you able to re-use it? Thanks, may have to jump on that bandwagon to save me time.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/14 07:39 PM

Just regular old weedbarrier fabric from Tractor supply. I don't try to reuse it. Pretty cheap.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/14 08:42 PM

I used preen landscape fabric from Sam's. I get 225' x 4' with staples for $30. I think East gets 100' x 3' without staples from Lowes or Ace. I hate hoeing as much as a gentleman who was born on a cotton farm in Arkansas.
So I put it down every year. After I'm done tearing down the garden its unusable.



Just finished planting. Just need to sow some green beans and cucumbers then the waiting starts

Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/14 09:11 PM

Looks great man
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/14 09:25 PM

All of you guys are killing me with the pics of your gardens and plants already in. My seedlings are on their third week, and we are still getting a morning or two a week in the twenties. I think my plants will be ready just in time this year. I hope.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/14 10:31 PM

Thanks, I'm going to look into it better next time I'm in town.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/14 11:34 PM

My garden is only 8x16 the roll of stuff I bought (200x4') was 20 bucks on clearance in the off season, I used 3-18' strips to cover it so it's covered good & I have enough for two more years. For a pretty much weed free garden, it's a no brainer.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/14 11:55 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
My garden is only 8x16 the roll of stuff I bought (200x4') was 20 bucks on clearance in the off season, I used 3-18' strips to cover it so it's covered good & I have enough for two more years. For a pretty much weed free garden, it's a no brainer.


what the hell where did you get that?
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/14 01:11 AM

Originally Posted By: East
Looks great man
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/14 02:55 AM

I changed my mind, I am not planting this weekend

I am going to get everything ready but they are calling for freezing temps on Tuesday
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/14 02:57 AM

Originally Posted By: East
I changed my mind, I am not planting this weekend

I am going to get everything ready but they are calling for freezing temps on Tuesday



bang fer real? You need to move South buddy, you can choke hard heads instead of mud cats... lizard
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/14 03:00 AM

Yep, BM told me that and I said bs

Checked it, and sure enough calling for 32 on Tuesday
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/14 12:51 PM

Projected 38* here next Tuesday, but yesterday was projected a low of 40* and it ended up 32*!
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/14 12:52 PM

if it gets to freezing, it will only be for a few hours. Shouldn't hurt anything (I am going to cover them though.)

Hey East, I got my fabric at Tractor supply after gardening season. Couldn't pass it up for $20
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/14 01:04 PM

The lowest any of the weather sites show for my area is 38 for a low on tuesday, thats the weather channel that says 38, accuweather & weather underground say 40.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/14 01:06 PM

Its showing 33 now, was showing 32 last night
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/14 02:34 PM

I've always thought that it had to be a hard freeze to kill plants. I don't think 32 for a few hours is going to kill anything.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/14 05:23 PM

It doesn't take a real "hard freeze" to kill Tomato plants, especially young ones. Ask East, he lost several last year. My dad did too, he didn't cover his on a night that only got down to 31-32 and it was just for a few hours, I had mine covered so they made it fine (right next door).
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/14 05:27 PM

I lost everything last year that night

Why I think I am going to wait till after Tuesday, dont wanna go through that again
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/14 05:30 PM

The frost has a poison which kills some plants. Covering them or keeping them wet will prevent the frost, but a hard freeze can kill them even while covered. I lost 3 of my first 6 which were covered during our last hard freeze. You can pull them up and replant later if you have just a few. I did that with a dozen last year. It only took a few minutes. The problem is getting out in the wind on the afternoon before.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/14 08:51 PM

Here you go;

http://www.ansc.purdue.edu/beef/articles/FrostDamagedForages.pdf
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/14 08:51 PM

Here you go;

http://www.ansc.purdue.edu/beef/articles/FrostDamagedForages.pdf


When plants freeze, changes occur rapidly in their metabolism and composition
that can be toxic to livestock. Two problems need to be considered prussic
acid poisoning and bloat. However, many of these problems can be prevented,
or at least minimized with proper management.
Some summer-annual grasses contain cyanogenic glucosides, which are
converted to prussic acid (hydrogen cyanide) when the plants are damaged by
frost. The concentrations of cyanogenic glucosides vary among plant species:
sorghum contains the highest concentrations, followed by sorghum-sudangrass
crosses, and sudangrass contains the lowest concentrations. Pearl millet is
virtually free of cyanogenic glucosides. The concentrations of these compounds
are highest in immature plants and decrease as plants mature. Leaves also
contain much higher concentrations than do stems. Plants growing under high
nitrogen levels or in phosphorus or potassium deficient soils will be more likely to
have high cyanide potential. After frost damage, cyanide levels will likely be
higher in fresh forage as compared with hay or silage, because cyanide is volatile
and dissipates as the forage cures and dries or is ensiled.
Posted By: Cool Mo D

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/14 10:05 PM

Bought some Homested #24's today. I hope they do well.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/14 01:00 AM

Originally Posted By: Cool Mo D
Bought some Homested #24's today. I hope they do well.


Those are one of my favorites.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/14 06:10 AM

Got a little done today

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/14 11:54 AM

Looks good East.

My onions are starting to make cracks but not yet bulbing. My potatoes are mostly all up. I'm not done planting my tomatoes and a few herbs.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/14 12:47 PM

Nice and clean looking East!

I bought some Heinz Classics heirlooms while getting some pipe at Lowes. Thought they would be fun. Say's on the label that they where the 1st cultivar Heinz used for its ketchup, but after a search, seems this may be a "liberal" claim. Still an old Heinz cultivar though (1962 iirc)
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/14 11:12 PM

Looks great East, what are you doing with the t posts?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/14 11:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Looks great East, what are you doing with the t posts?


I got enough rain to soften my soil around my onions. Did you get any of the rain that came from your area?
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/24/14 01:21 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Looks great East, what are you doing with the t posts?


Thats where I panted my onions and potatoes. There is wire ran around the post. For some reason foxy likes to roll in tilled up dirt, so it keeps her out.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/24/14 01:28 AM

My experiment, I am doing 2 rows of corn, and 2 rows of okra. One bed is for watermelon, two for cantaloupe

I made the rows wide enough to were I can run the tiller in between. We will see how bad I hate weeding a garden. If it gets to the point to were its to much I dont care



I let the chickens free range for the first time in their lives, under close supervision by me and tank.



Around dark they went back in like clock work, except for one, but he finally found his way home



And of course the new shop cat, hopefully he helps control the mice

He is prob 12+ yrs old

Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/24/14 12:35 PM

Looking good dude. I like the shop cat too.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/24/14 12:39 PM

Its 30*! Forecast said a low of 39*??, so I didn't cover my tomatoes bang I can see a light frost.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/24/14 12:49 PM

It was 36 here, no frost

Suppose to be colder tomorrow night
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/24/14 01:01 PM

Originally Posted By: East
It was 36 here, no frost

Suppose to be colder tomorrow night


Say's 39* here tonight, so......may go ahead and cover them if they look like they survived.

East, that's a pretty darn nice chicken coop!! Much more "fancy" than I ever gave my chickens!!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/24/14 11:16 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Did you get any of the rain that came from your area?


Caught 1/2" today, more in the forecast
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/24/14 11:31 PM

East: "I let the chickens free range for the first time in their lives, under close supervision by me and tank."

When they start eating your 'maters you might be considering fresh chicken and dumplings.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/14 01:16 AM

Not letting them anywhere near the garden

Was just letting them stretch their legs. I need to build them a run
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/14 01:18 AM

Showing 37 tomorrow night now, guess I would of been safe. Still going to wait till Wednesday just incase
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/14 01:42 AM

Originally Posted By: East
Not letting them anywhere near the garden

Was just letting them stretch their legs. I need to build them a run


PM AdvTx for pictures of his run. Damon did it right.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/14 05:36 PM




Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/14 06:01 PM

Did you make those cages yourself? What besides tomatoes do you plan to cage?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/14 06:14 PM

No I bought them

I put cages around the tomatoes and peppers
Posted By: Navasot

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/14 06:24 PM

Not a human garden but heres mine... very surprised more than 50% came up even though I planted day before a freeze ha
Posted By: Navasot

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/14 06:24 PM

Posted By: Navasot

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/14 06:25 PM

Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/14 02:39 PM

Getting a light rain right now up

Got my Corn in ( a bit early for this year maybe) Actually have potatoes showing, I had almost gave up on them, they sat there way to long IMO. (4+ weeks)
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/14 06:10 PM

now the waiting and watering starts

some one get Payne a defibrillator, hes going to have a heart attack when he sees how crowded this garden is going to be





one watermelon, and two cantaloupe



and let me set the rules in advance. the wine sample tasting will be on Sundays ONLY, and from 9-2. The orchid isn't ready for a large crowd so ONLY one sip per customer. I will let you know when its up and running full time

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/14 09:10 PM

looks great

I had to make drink to look at the pics so no need for a defibrillator
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/14 09:23 PM

Dont forget to make reservations for the grape/wine festival

It's not first come first serve
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/14 04:02 PM

Here's a look at my onions, potatoes and a few of my tomatoes. My cilantro is already going to seed.

Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/14 04:48 PM

looking good bill
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/14 10:19 PM

Looks great y'all. I got my peppers and squash in this weekend.Not planting any more.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/14 10:37 PM

nice garden Bill
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/14 11:20 PM

Thanks a bunch guys. I don't have the energy to improve my soil anymore. I just plant it in the soil. You can see some onions just to the left of mine. I gave half of my garden to my neighbor. He's learning.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/14 11:48 PM

Looking good Bill. I am planting mine two weeks from today. I would do it next week, but we have baseball tournaments going on.
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/14 03:52 AM

Got in the tomatoes, peppers, chiles and cukes today, oh and strawberries. Cilantro, garlic and green onions stay year round. Am passing on leafs until fall, just burn up too quick here. Wish I had pics to share, but am embarrassed after Paynes post.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/14 12:43 PM

I've given up on squash. Squash bugs kill my plants every year. bang
Posted By: sig226fan (Rguns.com)

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/14 01:26 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
I've given up on squash. Squash bugs kill my plants every year. bang


Seven Dust is your friend...
Posted By: sig226fan (Rguns.com)

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/14 01:28 PM

Corn is up. No cucumbers yet. Shelled okra seed yesterday while watching the race, it's ready to go again. Canteloupe need to be in this week too if I can get time.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/14 01:59 PM

Originally Posted By: sig226fan (Rguns.com)
Originally Posted By: skeeter22
I've given up on squash. Squash bugs kill my plants every year. bang


Seven Dust is your friend...





bang
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/14 04:00 PM

Finally got most of the garden planted. Been fighting a mole since the start this year and finally caught the bastage yesterday evening, biggest I have ever trapped! near 8", didn't know they got that big (thought it was a rat when I 1st saw it LOL.


Still on the fence if they are good or bad, they eat problem bugs but do allot of damage gett'n there.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/14 04:12 PM

we got a few tomatoes (celebrity, beef steak, cherry), straight neck squash and acorn squash planted over the weekend. I have a few more sweet cherry tomato plants developing but still a bit young to put out that will go in after a few more weeks inside.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/14 02:21 AM

Onions are looking good.

Bluebird babies already.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/14 02:26 AM

Originally Posted By: sig226fan (Rguns.com)
Originally Posted By: skeeter22
I've given up on squash. Squash bugs kill my plants every year. bang


Seven Dust is your friend...




Yeah, I know. But I don't like chemicals on the food that I eat. Just a personal choice.
Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/14 03:57 AM

Im not big on chemicals in the garden either. The squash bugs usually kill my plants one at a time, but I get plenty of squash before they do them all in. I don't like manually picking squash bugs. We do manually pick and kill the potato bugs.

We have everything planted except for okra. Have some seeds planted but I always like to plant some grown plants as well but haven't seen them available yet.

I also don't think any of our corn is going to come up. Checked the seeds to see if they had sprouted and couldn't find any of them smirk
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/14 09:43 AM

I get a hand torch and burn the squash beetles, works fast and doesn't hurt the plant, (move quick) Hard to eat your veggies when they don't have legs!
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/14 05:07 PM

hmmmmm never thought about a torch.

I have a feeling if I tried that, next thing I would be doing would be trying to put out a 6 acre pasture fire
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/14 07:07 PM

Originally Posted By: East
hmmmmm never thought about a torch.

I have a feeling if I tried that, next thing I would be doing would be trying to put out a 6 acre pasture fire



Could be if you let it sit, IDK. I haven't had a problem with mine, even around mulch. Just takes a quick pass or 2.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/14 08:41 PM

Originally Posted By: East
hmmmmm never thought about a torch.

I have a feeling if I tried that, next thing I would be doing would be trying to put out a 6 acre pasture fire


Pinching is the best way to get rid of them. Slap on a head light & a pair of gloves and stalk through your garden for a night or two. They are attracted to the light & you can see them a lot better than in the day time. Grab them with two fingers & squish them, works well & you'll be surprised how many you can kill & the difference it makes. It's also said that all of the fresh bug guts & bug carcasses helps to attract the good predators.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/02/14 12:49 AM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Onions are looking good.

Bluebird babies already.



Looks great CC

What's going on with the lattice?
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/02/14 01:41 AM

Two questions:

1. I got a variety of green beans called "garden beans". Do these need a trellis or do they grow in a bush? Doesn't say on the package... Never planted beans.

2. How long after planting onions from seeds with they be baseball sized onions? Do they take longer then anything else? Never tried onions as well.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/02/14 12:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Onions are looking good.

Bluebird babies already.



Looks great CC

What's going on with the lattice?


Trying squash for the first time. I hope it works.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/02/14 01:09 PM

Originally Posted By: texaspride93
Two questions:

1. I got a variety of green beans called "garden beans". Do these need a trellis or do they grow in a bush? Doesn't say on the package... Never planted beans.

2. How long after planting onions from seeds with they be baseball sized onions? Do they take longer then anything else? Never tried onions as well.


Beans should say pole or bush, so can't answer that one.

You don't plant onions from seeds this time of the year. You'd have to plant them in the fall to get onions this spring. You should plant them from onion sets, which are bare rooted little green onions. They come in bunches of around 75 to the bunch. They should have gone in the ground a little earlier, but they should make onions in your area.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/02/14 08:46 PM

So I can get these onions and plant now and be eating onions by end of summer?

It's still getting really cold here that won't affect it?
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/02/14 08:54 PM

Originally Posted By: texaspride93
So I can get these onions and plant now and be eating onions by end of summer?
Y
It's still getting really cold here that won't affect it?

no - they're cold tolerant.
I've had some growing in my garden all winter, uncovered, even with the weeks in the 20's.
Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/02/14 09:32 PM

Just got a pretty good quick rain. Yay for the garden!

Our carrots are just starting to sprout through the dirt(we got them in late). Our potato plants are growing like crazy. Still no okra or corn. Everything else is doing great.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/02/14 09:38 PM

Going to plant my corn tonight and hopefully we will get a good shower
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/02/14 10:11 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Going to plant my corn tonight and hopefully we will get a good shower


I have corn already up, not many but signs of life! The broccoli that I thought froze out is going nuts now, but doubt it will make before the heat sets in.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/03/14 11:57 PM

Just got some decent rain, missed the bad stuff. Last year some tomato plants got nailed by hail.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/14 12:47 AM

Spoke to soon, just got pounded by hail.....garden is toast
Posted By: Play Maker

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/14 12:55 AM

May have to forfeit the rest of my garden. Tiller tines quit engaging. Repairman said it would take $600 to fix it. No thanks.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/14 01:06 AM

Originally Posted By: phat694
Spoke to soon, just got pounded by hail.....garden is toast


How bad is it? We had one of the worst hail storms here Amarillo had ever seen, totaled every vehicle including my truck that was almost undeliverable, killed trees and 6 dove in our yard. 3/4 the city had to be reroofed and all my plants minus the cilantro pulled thru fine.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/14 01:07 AM

Originally Posted By: Play Maker
May have to forfeit the rest of my garden. Tiller tines quit engaging. Repairman said it would take $600 to fix it. No thanks.


Take it to Home Depot tool rental. There labor charge is ridiculously cheap and most the guys are pretty good.
Posted By: Redneck Messiah

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/14 01:16 AM

In the past 2 days I have panted 5 rows of corn, 2 rows of red and green bell peppers, 1 row of jalepenos, 5 pobalano pepper plants, 1 row of maters, two packs of sweet baby watermelon seeds, and 2 packs of jubilee watermelon seeds, 2 packs of cantaloupe seeds.

and just got over 1" of rain tonite

I planted all of this in a corner of the coastal bottom...... SOOOOOOO, I am either gonna have about a 1/3 acre garden....... OR a humongos coon/pig feeder... time will tell
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/14 01:25 AM

Originally Posted By: texaspride93
Originally Posted By: phat694
Spoke to soon, just got pounded by hail.....garden is toast


How bad is it? We had one of the worst hail storms here Amarillo had ever seen, totaled every vehicle including my truck that was almost undeliverable, killed trees and 6 dove in our yard. 3/4 the city had to be reroofed and all my plants minus the cilantro pulled thru fine.


Knocked all leaves off tomatoes, garlic looks questionable, broccoli questionable....I'll know the full scope of damage tomorrow morning.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/14 02:03 AM

Phat that sucks man. Sorry, hopefully they will come back.

We are predicted for rain, so I held off on watering but against better judgement I watered tonight. Cant rely on the rain

The plants were on their last leg
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/14 02:04 AM

I think Paynes came back last year after getting wiped out by caterpillars
Posted By: Redneck Messiah

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/14 02:11 AM

Originally Posted By: phat694
Originally Posted By: texaspride93
Originally Posted By: phat694
Spoke to soon, just got pounded by hail.....garden is toast


How bad is it? We had one of the worst hail storms here Amarillo had ever seen, totaled every vehicle including my truck that was almost undeliverable, killed trees and 6 dove in our yard. 3/4 the city had to be reroofed and all my plants minus the cilantro pulled thru fine.


Knocked all leaves off tomatoes, garlic looks questionable, broccoli questionable....I'll know the full scope of damage tomorrow morning.


Ever try puttig 1 gallon cans with lids still partly on over them when bad weather coming?? or 5 gallon buckets with bottom cut out.. lids put on when weather expected??

Thats what Dad always did.. i did same to mine tonite... can get cans from a school or resturant
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/14 02:35 AM

My tomatoes were about 2' tall already. Started them from seeds back in early Feb.

If they don't make it I have 6-8 left under the grow lights still, plus all my peppers.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/14 10:56 AM

Originally Posted By: East
Phat that sucks man. Sorry, hopefully they will come back.

We are predicted for rain, so I held off on watering but against better judgement I watered tonight. Cant rely on the rain

The plants were on their last leg


Same here, ended up with .04, so watered while DFW was getting hammered.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/14 11:45 AM

Originally Posted By: Redneck Messiah
In the past 2 days I have panted 5 rows of corn, 2 rows of red and green bell peppers, 1 row of jalepenos, 5 pobalano pepper plants, 1 row of maters, two packs of sweet baby watermelon seeds, and 2 packs of jubilee watermelon seeds, 2 packs of cantaloupe seeds.

and just got over 1" of rain tonite

I planted all of this in a corner of the coastal bottom...... SOOOOOOO, I am either gonna have about a 1/3 acre garden....... OR a humongos coon/pig feeder... time will tell



Nice, got any pics?


Originally Posted By: East
I think Paynes came back last year after getting wiped out by caterpillars


I lost some plants to a late frost last year.


Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/14 12:51 PM

I always thought that all bell peppers turn red unless otherwise labeled.
Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/14 09:52 PM

I was away for the week on business, came back this afternoon and found a whole bunch of these all over my mater plants.

First maters of the year for me.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/14 09:54 PM

Very nice Palehorse
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/14 10:08 PM

Palehorse for the win
Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/14 10:11 PM

Thanks! I've just been using well rinsed and composted seaweed I gathered off the beach last year for fertilizer. All my plants are going nuts with this stuff. Oh, and fish guts too!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/14 10:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Palehorse
Thanks! I've just been using well rinsed and composted seaweed I gathered off the beach last year for fertilizer. All my plants are going nuts with this stuff. Oh, and fish guts too!


genius sir
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/14 11:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Palehorse
I was away for the week on business, came back this afternoon and found a whole bunch of these all over my mater plants.

First maters of the year for me.


Winner, winner chicken dinner. I was hoping for the first, but you beat me to it.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/14 11:32 PM

Wait a second, I just realized you live in Surfside.

Thats not fair to us guys up north, you are disqualified grin
Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/14 11:45 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Wait a second, I just realized you live in Surfside.

Thats not fair to us guys up north, you are disqualified grin


Well, when the tropical storms and hurricanes start coming in and flooding my garden with seawater, I'll be wishing I lived where you do.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/14 11:49 PM

Do you remember when you put the plants in the ground?
Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/14 12:04 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Do you remember when you put the plants in the ground?

The weekend after Valentines Day. I had to keep them under some clear totes for a few cold snaps though. They seemed to love the little greenhouses.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/14 09:42 PM

Do y'all think they will make it or should I pull'em?



Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/14 09:47 PM

Damn they got hammered phat

How big are the ones under the lights?
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/14 09:47 PM

These 2 were sheltered from the hail, they will make it....plus a bonus!


Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/14 09:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Damn they got hammered phat

How big are the ones under the lights?


There a good 20-24" tall.....they are flowering already.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/14 09:52 PM

I would replant with the ones under the lights.

Sorry that happened to your garden.

Good Luck
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/14 11:00 PM

Dang! Replant.
Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/14 12:47 AM

Ouch! That's frustrating! Good thing you have backups.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/14 05:19 PM

got torn up
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/14 05:27 PM

SAD! What do you guys do with onions that go to seed? I quit growing white onions because about 1/3 of them made a seed stalk last year. Now I have 4 red ones which have put out a seed stalk.
Posted By: t george

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/14 06:08 PM

got several pinto beans sprouting and put them in pots today. The wife surprised me yesterday and brought home a jalapeno plant and a few squash plants. I may be late getting them into the ground as I dont know much about gardening but they were under cover when the storms hit so maybe being late is not so bad.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/14 01:29 AM

do I win anything for having the first pepper?

Posted By: Tbar

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/14 01:48 AM

Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/14 01:49 AM

Do I win anything for posting the first pic of a pepper?
Posted By: Tbar

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/14 01:51 AM

Originally Posted By: East
Do I win anything for posting the first pic of a pepper?


LOL cheers
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/14 11:47 AM

East, you win a free bag of fish food!! See Dan for redemption.!
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/14 01:24 PM

Looking good guys!!
Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/14 02:45 AM

My dang neighbor's cats keep using my garden as a cat box. I'm going to pull up all my leaf lettuce up and throw it in the compost because that's where they are burying their poop. I'm not eating lettuce out of a cat box!
I have a devious plan though. I have an electric fence charger, a big one for live stock. I'm running the hotwire fence tomorrow after I get my PVC pipe fence posts made. I can't wait until one of those bastages touches that wire!
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/14 03:00 AM

Set up a game cam as well so we can see the action!!
Posted By: HillCountryHotRodMan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/14 02:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Palehorse
My dang neighbor's cats keep using my garden as a cat box.


Palehorse have you tried cayenne pepper in your garden? I'm going to try sprinkling it in one of my front beds to keep 'em from pissing around our flower garden.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/14 03:33 PM

http://www.shake-away.com/DomesticCats.php?page=DomesticCat


coyote urine granules.......keeps lots of critters away
Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/14 03:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Palehorse
... I have an electric fence charger, a big one for live stock. I'm running the hotwire fence tomorrow after I get my PVC pipe fence posts made. I can't wait until one of those bastages touches that wire!


DH uses one around our (his) vegetable garden, to keep out our (my) own cats, dogs & chickens. Works great, no problem with any unwanted four legged garden visitors.
Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/14 04:44 PM

Originally Posted By: HillCountryHotRodMan
Originally Posted By: Palehorse
My dang neighbor's cats keep using my garden as a cat box.


Palehorse have you tried cayenne pepper in your garden? I'm going to try sprinkling it in one of my front beds to keep 'em from pissing around our flower garden.


No, I haven't. The fence charger, wire, and PVC pipe are already in my garage so I don't need to buy anything though. Plus, I think the fence will have some entertainment value. I have been dealing with that woman's cats for several years now.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/14 04:58 PM

Originally Posted By: takewhatyoucan64
http://www.shake-away.com/DomesticCats.php?page=DomesticCat


coyote urine granules.......keeps lots of critters away


I used that stuff religiously around my gardens last year to keep the deer out. IMO it is a waste of money at $25/a jug. After it rains you have to re-apply. Deer still moved in one night and totally wiped my vegetable garden out just when it was starting to produce. It's fence for me from now on...
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/14 06:12 PM

Little windy today..





snapped that persimmon with ease..
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/14 06:20 PM

dang Payne that sucks
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/14 06:22 PM

meh, it had a good run
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/14 11:52 AM

Killed 11 Cucumber beetles yesterday, may be a bad year for them. I may give the homemade traps a shot to avoid the chemicals.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/14 03:20 PM

I just dug around the base of one of my red potato plants and saw a golf ball size potato.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/14 08:20 PM

Plums and Apricots



Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/14 08:23 PM

Payne, nice sight! I have 2 Apricots and 2 Plums so far (SMD), but only 3 year old's I'm guessing, how old are those trees. You will be thinning soon too.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/14 08:25 PM

That apricot is 2 the plum is 12
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/14 08:27 PM

he wont have to thin too much........a fist away from each other is pretty much how I always left them. Hard to tell in the pic but doesn't look like too many need to go
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/14 08:29 PM

the birds will thin it for me realmad bang mad
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/14 08:50 PM

Shoot em'.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/14 11:25 PM

I was going to try the netting, so far squirrels have been a problem
Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/14 02:27 AM

Have a ton on my peach trees. Also noticed some little plums. Sprayed all my trees today with neem oil. Bugs are hard to keep off and out of peaches. Also planted a new bare root crab apple tree today.
Posted By: thecoach

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/14 03:55 AM

A few of my onions have started to seedout, I was told the were done and it was best to pull them. I pulled two and they are about the size of a golf ball. What happened I thought they would be bigger
Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/14 04:16 AM

Onions aren't supposed to seed out until their second year. Unfortunately some onions get tricked by a cold snap or are just stupid or something and decide to go to seed their first year. Once they start to flower and go to seed, they just don't grow like a first year onion. They also have a different taste.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/14 10:39 AM

and looks like another chance of frost Monday night........geez I am sick of this wind and now I am really sick of this cold coming back again
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/14 11:34 AM

Originally Posted By: Nathan at Fork
Onions aren't supposed to seed out until their second year. Unfortunately some onions get tricked by a cold snap or are just stupid or something and decide to go to seed their first year. Once they start to flower and go to seed, they just don't grow like a first year onion. They also have a different taste.





I don't think it has anything to do with the weather. I've never seen a single 1015y seed out. about a third of my white onions made a seed stalk last year. I quit growing them I've had 4 red onions seed out this year.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/14 11:55 AM

I have corn and contender beans up about 5-6", now projected 31* and windy. Just like last Spring and will likely have to re-plant. No time for row covers, unless I just get plastic for such a large area. Real bummer.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/14 12:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
I have corn and contender beans up about 5-6", now projected 31* and windy. Just like last Spring and will likely have to re-plant. No time for row covers, unless I just get plastic for such a large area. Real bummer.


Turn your sprinkler on and let it run all night.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/14 12:52 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: Western
I have corn and contender beans up about 5-6", now projected 31* and windy. Just like last Spring and will likely have to re-plant. No time for row covers, unless I just get plastic for such a large area. Real bummer.


Turn your sprinkler on and let it run all night.


Bill, I thought of that since I remember seeing it done in Florida orchards, I didn't know if it was the same idea with the low growth veggies though, good idea! I dont expect the temps to stay that low for very long.
Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/14 04:21 PM

Where the heck is this global warming that Al Gore promised me on the internet he invented. I was looking forward to being able to grow coconut trees. I feel robbed.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/14 04:47 PM

Metromess forecast is 36 on Tuesday morning. bang
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/14 04:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: Western
I have corn and contender beans up about 5-6", now projected 31* and windy. Just like last Spring and will likely have to re-plant. No time for row covers, unless I just get plastic for such a large area. Real bummer.


Turn your sprinkler on and let it run all night.


Bill, I thought of that since I remember seeing it done in Florida orchards, I didn't know if it was the same idea with the low growth veggies though, good idea! I dont expect the temps to stay that low for very long.


I did it a couple of time a few years back. My shut off is in my garage so I turned mine on after midnight when I got up to pee.

We're getting a little light rain now. I was just out in my garden I have a few marble size tomatoes. Should have some ripe ones before memorial day.
Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/14 05:53 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: Nathan at Fork
Onions aren't supposed to seed out until their second year. Unfortunately some onions get tricked by a cold snap or are just stupid or something and decide to go to seed their first year. Once they start to flower and go to seed, they just don't grow like a first year onion. They also have a different taste.





I don't think it has anything to do with the weather. I've never seen a single 1015y seed out. about a third of my white onions made a seed stalk last year. I quit growing them I've had 4 red onions seed out this year.



Actually, it does. If you WANT onions to go to seed, you can actually trick them into seeding by using temperature. If you plant early when its still cold and it warms up, then you have a longer cold snap, they can think that they have gone through an entire growing season and the extended cold snap pushes them to bolt. A late cold snap can make a lot of onions bolt to seed. In a temperature controlled environment, you can make most onions go to seed by playing with the temperature. But, some onions are just going to bolt no matter the temp.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/14 07:10 PM

I've never seen it on 1015 onions since they were developed and I couldn't find it on google.
Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/14 08:43 PM

I didn't see where "the coach" specified he was asking about 1015 onions? He just said onions.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/14 11:19 PM

I looked it up. You were right, but we have no control over what happened to the plants or sets before we bought them. It's still a crap shoot.

My onions and potatoes are now about golf ball size. I don't think I'll have to buy anymore at the store.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/14 01:45 PM

Stopped by TSC yesterday and found 2-200'x4' rolls of weed barrier clothe for $29, I may try to put that over the row crops, then move them to my melons and cucs. Sound like a decent idea??
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/14 02:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Stopped by TSC yesterday and found 2-200'x4' rolls of weed barrier clothe for $29, I may try to put that over the row crops, then move them to my melons and cucs. Sound like a decent idea??


It's probably the best that you can do, but the wind forecast makes it difficult to keep them covered. This really sucks. I feel for you guys.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/14 02:37 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: Western
Stopped by TSC yesterday and found 2-200'x4' rolls of weed barrier clothe for $29, I may try to put that over the row crops, then move them to my melons and cucs. Sound like a decent idea??


It's probably the best that you can do, but the wind forecast makes it difficult to keep them covered. This really sucks. I feel for you guys.


Ditto on the wind, 30 mph forecasted for tonight, so I may wake up with "sails" on the garden fence. I have some pipe and sucker-rod I will try to hold it down, that and some dirt, but it will be what it is at this point.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/14 02:40 PM

If the wind stays higher we should be okay.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/14 03:33 PM

Originally Posted By: takewhatyoucan64
If the wind stays higher we should be okay.


That should help with condensation, but with a wind chill in the 20's, don't know if it will do much good.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/14 03:36 PM

I haven't planted anything yet except onions a month ago
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/14 03:52 PM

Ill probably lose everything like I did last year around this time bang
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/14 03:55 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Ill probably lose everything like I did last year around this time bang



go fertilize them with some catfish guts grin
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/14 04:15 PM

I just grabbed some plastic from here at work, gonna water real good then wrap around my tomato cages with plastic this evening. like I said last year, it will cost me $8 to replace my 16 tomato plants, so not gonna worry bout it. I may use a piece of fabric as a wind block on the north side too. I freakin hate when this happens but I bet I will come out o.k.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/14 04:19 PM

Its saying 35 here, just going to have to see what happens.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/14 04:19 PM

I am going to cover my tomatoes and peppers with planter buckets after I remove the cages.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/14 04:29 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
I am going to cover my tomatoes and peppers with planter buckets after I remove the cages.


I was gonna do that and still might but I hate having to pull up all the cages after I got them just the way I wanted them. Guess it wouldn't be that hard since the holes are poked in the fabric. I have lots of buckets.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/14 05:04 PM

What do y'all think about if I grabbed some of the Christmas type lights that they sell at HD & strung em through my tomato cages? Worth the trouble??
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/14 07:55 PM

I think turning on the sprinkler might be the best. I'd pull a half dozen up. I did it last year. It took only about 10 minutes. I have my fingers crossed for you guys. This sucks.
Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/14 08:00 PM

Freeze tonight?

Texas Rangers to the rescue!


Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/14 08:26 PM

Nathan, growing Texas Rangers? LOL I wish I could get off that easy
up
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/14 08:28 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
What do y'all think about if I grabbed some of the Christmas type lights that they sell at HD & strung em through my tomato cages? Worth the trouble??


I had a round bale of wheat stubble, so piled that around the tomato cages, worked last freeze a month ago when they where little. Might have time to run by a feed store a grab a couple square bales. Hay males good cheap mulch, horse hay is relatively weed free too.
Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/14 08:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Nathan, growing Texas Rangers? LOL I wish I could get off that easy
up


Yeah that's the okra we just planted. Ive got buckets and coffee cans on my peppers, squash and zucchini. Im trying to decide what to do on the tomatoes, Ill either put hay around them or just chance it.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/14 08:35 PM

you could wrap the cages with saran wrap. how windy is it suppose to be? Might want to put some weight on those cups.
Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/14 08:42 PM

Its supposed to stay pretty windy, I think tonight is supposed to be between 15-25 mph. Weve got the top of the cups shoved down into the ground around the plants pretty good, so hopefully that will keep them upright. Im aout to go spread hay around our mators right now.


Does anyone know if I need to do something with my corn plants? They are all probably 8" tall right now.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/14 08:47 PM

your down in the bottom aren't you Nathan?.......its going to get real cold. Hope the wind keeps up for you.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/14 09:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Nathan at Fork
Its supposed to stay pretty windy, I think tonight is supposed to be between 15-25 mph. Weve got the top of the cups shoved down into the ground around the plants pretty good, so hopefully that will keep them upright. Im aout to go spread hay around our mators right now.


Does anyone know if I need to do something with my corn plants? They are all probably 8" tall right now.


Nathan, I got 4'x200' weed barrier to cover my corn ans snap beans at TSC for $29 a roll. Other than that, dont know what you can do with row crops.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/14 10:17 PM

I planted seeds yesterday not knowing of the weather coming in till
It was too late! Do y'all think the seeds will be fine since they were only in the ground a few hours? I'm hoping the warm ground since it was 75 yesterday helped the seeds. No plants above ground yet

Seeds be okay?
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/14 10:34 PM

I think you will be just fine. They haven't even had time to think about germinating.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/14 10:58 PM

I grew up on a farm in Arkansas. I've seen corn take a light frost, but it's still iffy.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 12:00 AM

Your seeds will be safe.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 12:29 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I grew up on a farm in Arkansas. I've seen corn take a light frost, but it's still iffy.


What part? North of Harrison for me.
Posted By: thecoach

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 12:51 AM



Got'em bundled up, my only question is I won't be here and till after 5 tomorrow to remove plastic. Do y'all think they will bake in there?
Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 12:55 AM

No, they will be fine. Like a mini greenhouse. Last year I left buckets on some of my plants for several days of low temps.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 01:00 AM

Originally Posted By: thecoach


Got'em bundled up, my only question is I won't be here and till after 5 tomorrow to remove plastic. Do y'all think they will bake in there?


How do you keep them from falling off the earth?
Posted By: thecoach

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 01:38 AM

You can't see it very we'll but they are buried about 4" below ground and have been on there for a couple of weeks, soil is pretty packed around them
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 01:54 AM



All covered up.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 04:21 AM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
Originally Posted By: thecoach


Got'em bundled up, my only question is I won't be here and till after 5 tomorrow to remove plastic. Do y'all think they will bake in there?


How do you keep them from falling off the earth?


clap
Posted By: texretvet

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 05:17 AM

Hopefully my stuff will all make it.

Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 10:30 AM

39.2 here on the back patio
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 11:31 AM

30.3 In SW Wise county. winds very light.
Posted By: thecoach

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 11:36 AM

34 here but will probably drop a degree or 2 more
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 11:55 AM

Originally Posted By: thecoach
34 here but will probably drop a degree or 2 more


Yep, already has dropped to 29 here, and I see frost outside on thee deck bang
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 12:33 PM

35 when I left my house at 5:30, weather guesser said it was going to drop 1 or 2 more degrees, I think I will be fine. I didn't have any frost on my windshield & I park right next to my garden.
I didn't want to pull all my cages & do all that last night (piled mulch up around each plant & covered with bucket) but glad I did.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 12:40 PM

I might be SOL
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 02:05 PM

Originally Posted By: East
I might be SOL


Aren't you always?
Posted By: HillCountryHotRodMan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 04:35 PM

Was 34 way down here this morning with a light frost on the vehicles. I'll have to check out the garden this evening and see what's what.

How did y'all up N/NE Texas fare?
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 04:48 PM

Originally Posted By: HillCountryHotRodMan
Was 34 way down here this morning with a light frost on the vehicles. I'll have to check out the garden this evening and see what's what.

How did y'all up N/NE Texas fare?


Waiting to hear from the ol lady when she gets home for lunch & uncovers them. Pretty sure I will be good to go.
Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 05:30 PM

We had HEAVY frost here. Should have covered my corn....
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 05:41 PM

My corn and beans that where under the weed barrier I bought look like nothing happened. potatoes froze out, but should recover.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 05:43 PM

Im afraid to go home after work
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 05:45 PM

My wife uncovered ours at lunch & sent me a pic.
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 06:40 PM

Lost my peppers, cukes, tomatoes and taters! We had them covered too! Oh well, will re-plant.
Posted By: Navasot

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 06:58 PM

I called HEB at lunch... they are still in good shape.. peep
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 07:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Navasot
I called HEB at lunch... they are still in good shape.. peep


Veggies in Grocery stores = barf
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 07:19 PM

What is your forecast low for tonight?
Posted By: Navasot

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 07:23 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Originally Posted By: Navasot
I called HEB at lunch... they are still in good shape.. peep


Veggies in Grocery stores = barf


Lol taste like a plant to me... tomatoes are the only thing iv seen a big difference in from garden to store bought
Posted By: Navasot

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 07:26 PM

Meh maybe cucumbers also
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 07:35 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
What is your forecast low for tonight?


38
Posted By: thecoach

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 07:40 PM

Paying $1.75/lb for squash is a big difference too!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 07:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Navasot

Lol taste like a plant to me... tomatoes are the only thing iv seen a big difference in from garden to store bought


stir
Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 08:00 PM

Our corn is toast. Our potatoes got hit hard but they always come back. Our okra was covered but looks bad, not sure if it will pull through. All of our tomatoes were fine, I had covered half with buckets and the other half with hay. Peppers, squash and zucchini are fine, they were covered with buckets. I just hate losing the corn.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 08:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Halfadozen
Lost my peppers, cukes, tomatoes and taters! We had them covered too! Oh well, will re-plant.


Give those potatoes a few days, they might surprise you. Pretty sure I lost my tomatoes as well. Weird thing, zucs and squash I didn't cover at all and only lost about 5 of 60?
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 08:18 PM

Y'all think I should cover up again tonight?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 08:26 PM

wouldn't hurt CC
Posted By: Navasot

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 08:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Originally Posted By: Navasot

Lol taste like a plant to me... tomatoes are the only thing iv seen a big difference in from garden to store bought


stir


I wouldn't do such a thing grin
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 09:20 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Y'all think I should cover up again tonight?



No need
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/14 11:58 PM

Welp I guess I got lucky.

I will admit when I got in my truck this morning I had to defrost my windshield.

All day I was ready to come home to the carnage, but some how everything is perfect. Like they never got touched.

Hell my corn sprouted over night.

Is it weird that I have a rooster without a voice box? Sounds like someone dying when he cockadoodals or whatever you call it
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/14 12:49 AM

Originally Posted By: East
Welp I guess I got lucky.

I will admit when I got in my truck this morning I had to defrost my windshield.

All day I was ready to come home to the carnage, but some how everything is perfect. Like they never got touched.

Hell my corn sprouted over night.

Is it weird that I have a rooster without a voice box? Sounds like someone dying when he cockadoodals or whatever you call it


I had my fingers crossed for you.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/14 12:54 AM

We had 25 degrees this morning, and I lost all but 1 of the 40 tomatoes and all 40 peppers. We had about half the peppers and half the tomatoes covered, and it didn't do much good. Looks like I will re-plant Friday. bang
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/14 01:23 AM

I covered everything that wasn't killed by hail. And still had the seedlings/transplants under the grow lights. Ill replant in a few days.
Posted By: thecoach

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/14 01:44 AM

I lost I pepper maybe one tomato and 3 squash and 1 zucchini. Will replant when we get home Sunday
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/14 02:12 AM

I dont understand this. I did great, and people near me lost so much

Guess its the over hanging trees around my garden
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/14 02:49 AM

Same elevation?
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/14 02:59 AM

Thanks W, will keep a watch out.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/14 12:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Navasot
Originally Posted By: Payne
Originally Posted By: Navasot

Lol taste like a plant to me... tomatoes are the only thing iv seen a big difference in from garden to store bought


stir


I wouldn't do such a thing grin





http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2014/04/15/attention-shoppers-fruit-and-vegetable-prices-rising/
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/14 12:30 PM

Originally Posted By: East
I dont understand this. I did great, and people near me lost so much

Guess its the over hanging trees around my garden


I've seen that happen in my area. The TV showed 50 degrees in Katy this morning and the same in Sugarland. I live between the two and there was frost on my neighbor's roof this morning. I did not see any frost near the ground.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/14 12:51 PM

Glad you came out ok East. Sorry to the ones that lost stuff & have to replant.
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/14 07:24 PM

I had a light frost this morning, didn't seem to bother anything but some of the cucumbers
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/14 01:37 AM

My green beans, pinto beans and purple hull peas took a hit. Guess I will replant them this weekend. I covered the peppers and tomatoes and they came out fine.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/14 02:14 AM

Well, I love to garden very much but it has been difficult to do much this year due to some personal business that has been consuming most of my money, energy, time, and give a damn, (yes the big D). Had plans to put in a new raised bed garden just for my tomatoes if nothing else, but decided to just wait until my finances settled down and the storm calmed some. Was pretty bummed about no garden this year but oh well. So in saying all of that, my youngest boy & I were playing in the yard and he wanted to go for a ride on the buggy again. This time, I drove by my old compost box that I started building out of old pallets. Ha ha, I've got a number of tomato plants growing in my compost. They have had little water (just what little rain we have had) but are looking good and have a handful of tomatoes growing already. Guess I will start giving them water and build a wire/mesh cover for them to keep the critters out. They should have plenty of food in that soil! Made me smile that I might have some home grown tomatoes after all.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/14 12:52 PM

Those tomatoes look great a ahead of anything I've seen around here.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/14 01:09 PM

I was gonna say the same thing. Thats amazing.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/14 01:16 PM

Dang Skinner, nice
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/14 01:24 PM

Nice looking volunteers you have Skinner
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/14 05:39 PM

Yeh guys I was really surprised, hope they keep doing well.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/14 09:14 PM

Originally Posted By: skinnerback
Yeh guys I was really surprised, hope they keep doing well.


They look better than my 2nd planting after this past frost!
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/14 09:42 PM

My green beans are above ground in 3 days. Must have gotten super seeds!!
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/14 05:49 AM

I left my water on for 5 hours. Probably washed all
My seeds up. Couldn't tell in the dark.
Posted By: cmc

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/14 11:58 PM

Anybody try the cayenne dragon peppers? I threw some in cause I found a couple plants but I bet I can't eat em.
Posted By: TreeBass

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/14 12:56 AM

Got everything in the ground today





Tomatoes, heirlooms as well, jalepenos, squash, three types of cucumbers, bell peppers
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/14 01:24 AM

Looks good TB. I planted the rest of my veggies also. I'll post up some pic maana.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/14 01:33 AM

My magic bean seeds are now 5-6 days in the ground and they are 8 inches tall
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/14 03:39 PM



Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/14 03:54 PM

Nice work, Phat.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/14 05:33 PM

Looks great Phat

All is well here



Corn is coming up



Cant gripe about this time of year

Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/14 06:01 PM

Looks nice East, now its the waiting game.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/14 06:03 PM

Looks great Treebass, Phat & East


Praying Mantis' hatched today, I spread them around the garden & orchard.

Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/14 06:07 PM

What did the egg sacks look like after they hatched?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/14 06:10 PM

Looked the same with some little holes in it, took 34 days to hatch.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/14 09:47 PM

I need to either build some traps or keep handpicking the darn Cucumber beetles. On the few potatoes I have and thick in my snap beans. We killed over 20 in 30 minutes.
Posted By: cmc

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/14 10:21 PM

My mantises should be here tomorrow. I have a small little garden but lots of flowers. I got these little ants that get in the house that I can't seem to kill so hoping the mantises help.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/14 10:47 PM

Who did you get them from cmc?
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/14 01:21 AM

Mine still haven't hatched but I think Payne got his a few weeks before me
Posted By: TreeBass

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/14 02:02 AM

I like that fence phat! You just gave me an idea how I can expand!! Thanks

Thought about some praying mantises, but wasn't sure how long they'd hang around

East, your place is what I'll upgrade to eventually up
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/14 02:06 AM

TB I dont know about PMs, but my lady bugs disappear quick. Once they wipe out the aphids, and I am talking about wipe them out. They annihilate them. (sp) But once they are gone, they leave.

Hopefully they laid some eggs around the green house and more will come back. I am fixing to order 4500 and keep some in an old fish aquarium I have
Posted By: cmc

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/14 01:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Who did you get them from cmc?

Sweet grass Farms in Ohio. I've never bought any so I have nothing to compare to. I got an email this morning it will be two days they are picking fresh today.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/14 01:14 PM

Thanks
Posted By: HillCountryHotRodMan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/14 01:26 PM

Phat that is one good lookin' pond you have there.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/14 01:31 PM

See how that feels Phat?!?!?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/14 02:36 PM

Got hammered with hail last Monday, good news was I caught 1.1" of rain.



Lost all the cucumbers, three squash, a cayenne, a yellow bell pepper, a celebrity and three jalapenos.
Watered with liquid fertilizer from miracle gro and removed all the broken branches. Replanted the squash and put Kentucky Wonder green beans where the cukes were. Should be fine.




Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/14 04:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
See how that feels Phat?!?!?


HAHAHA....it stings a little
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/14 04:37 PM

Seems like a tough year.
Posted By: cmc

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/14 04:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Who did you get them from cmc?

I may have missed it but where from and how many did you get?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/14 04:39 PM

I got mine from Hirts and I got 1550. I'm going to order some more when it warms up and they have more to eat.

Hirts Link
Posted By: cmc

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/14 04:48 PM

Lady bugs. When I seen 1550 I was confused, did you get your mantises from there too. I was gonna order from them but Sweetgrass had free shipping so I went with them.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/14 04:58 PM

CMC do you have a link to sweetgrass?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/14 05:13 PM

I got the lady bugs, mantis and nematodes from Hirts. I'd like a link to sweet grass also.
Posted By: cmc

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/14 06:20 PM

This is all I got
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/14 07:33 PM

How much did you pay for them?
Posted By: cmc

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/14 08:00 PM

$10 for five egg sacks shipped.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/14 08:00 PM

eeks333
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/14 08:00 PM

that's awesome
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/14 08:03 PM

That's a lot better than what I paid. Thanks for the name.
Posted By: cmc

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/14 08:05 PM

Don't get too excited yet, Ill give full report in a few weeks.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/14 01:21 PM

I went ahead and ordered some too, we will see how they do.

Few pics to get this thread back up and running....





Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/14 01:33 PM

Your yellow squash is ahead of mine.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/14 02:38 PM

All of East veggies are ahead of mine.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/14 06:44 PM

Looking good East. I looked last night & don't have any little maters yet. Lots of blooms but no maters.
Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/14 07:41 PM

Luckily, all but a few of our corn plants that got damaged in the frost have pulled through. I planted about 100 more, hopefully they come up. Everything is doing great.

Is it too late to plant carrots? We had a big bed of carrots just starting to come up but due to some over enthusiastic garden cleanup by my dad who was visiting, the whole bed was lost. Wasn't sure if anything would come up if I reseeded them this late.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/14 11:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Nathan at Fork
Luckily, all but a few of our corn plants that got damaged in the frost have pulled through. I planted about 100 more, hopefully they come up. Everything is doing great.

Is it too late to plant carrots? We had a big bed of carrots just starting to come up but due to some over enthusiastic garden cleanup by my dad who was visiting, the whole bed was lost. Wasn't sure if anything would come up if I reseeded them this late.


I like to plant carrots in September.

My potatoes are now golf ball size, and I'm putting on clumps of tomatoes. I'm not quiet ready for anew picture. Maybe next week.
Posted By: Tbar

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/14 09:07 PM

Not really a gardening question but tree related. Was out trimming some low branches on the Shumard Red Oaks trees out front and notices thousands of these red spiders. Any one know what they are.

Sorry, lousy pictures


Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/14 01:20 AM

Freaky
Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/14 01:21 AM

Tbar- ITs time for you to move. Don't pack anything, just leave. Light everything on fire on your way out.
Posted By: Tbar

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/14 03:32 PM

Who knew.......Wheel Bug Nymph

http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/galveston/beneficials/beneficial-09_wheel_bug.htm


Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/14 03:35 PM

Arachnaphobia!
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/14 03:39 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
Arachnaphobia!


They are not spiders
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/14 03:47 PM

Close enough.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/14 09:12 PM

I grubbed out a half pound red potato today along with 5 baseball size reds and whites. I think the next time I will start digging up the entire hill.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/14 10:18 PM

My squash were not out of the ground after 10 days, so I replanted and they are already cracking he surface. Must have planted too deep or bad seeds or something. Okra is growing insanely fast, as well as my spinach and lettuce. Cucumbers are up but not growing crazy quick. Peppers looked horrible today so they got some miracle grow and I mulched around them.
Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/14 12:06 AM

The corn we planted a few days ago are already 1"-2" tall. Our okra is growing very slow.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/14 12:19 AM

Just found out about a frost tonight that I didn't know was coming. Got everything covered up in the backyard portion. The alley is onions and everything else is still not above ground so we should be okay!

Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/14 03:54 AM

Good luck TXPride. Hope it works out well.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/14 04:22 AM

Everything is in cups, then bags. Hopefully all is well..the next few days call for frost
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/14 05:18 AM

Don't use plastic if you can avoid it. Fabric over stakes seems to work better. Heck even a small rotating heater may help.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/14 02:15 AM

My squash died. I don't think I watered it enough. I'll replant.

4th of julys are coming in good.

Jalapeos haven't really grown. Odd.

beefsteaks


a cherry sort of tomato. I forgot the name.


cilantro is tall. I didn't this they would grow this tall.


looking good
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/14 11:15 AM

Woke up to 39 degrees this morning with frost on the roof of my truck and ice on the hood. Will check on the garden after work. I have already lost the beans and peas earlier. This global warming sure is hard on the plats this year.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/14 11:55 AM

35 degrees on the porch right now and lots of frost........unreal
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/14 12:38 PM

44 out, I haven't checked for frost yet.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/14 02:32 PM

I like old country of garden sayings. My favorite is, "I didn't get my seeds back." I dug up two hills of red potatoes and more that got my seeds back for my entire crop. They can stand a little more growing but I can be more patient now that I see what I have.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/14 03:54 PM

We have been dealing with a lot of frost and heavy winds. I am covering every night and uncovering every mid morning for this week. Everything I have is out of the ground so I would like to keep it all. I'm getting anxious already. I love giving squash away
Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/14 06:31 PM

Wasn't supposed to get frost last night. But this morning I heard my girls scraping the frost off of their windshield before heading to school. Crazy. Luckily, looks like the garden is fine.
Posted By: cmc

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/14 12:10 PM

Anyone heard of this before? As an after thought I threw a couple Thai pepper seeds in a pot and noticed it had been dug in a few days later so I covered it and watered it in. Two days later it was dig out again so I covered and watered again, I have plants every where and this pot is the only one dug in. So yesterday I am watering a tomato and see a squirrel run around the pool and stop at that pot and jump in and start digging. The seeds are gone and there's nothing else in the pot so why would a squirrel eat pepper seeds?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/14 12:51 PM

Why will they dig up my caladium bulbs and not eat them?
Posted By: retfuz

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/14 10:27 PM

I bought a potted cherry tomato plant with a few green tomatoes. It looks like the blooms are dying. Anyone have any advice?
Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/14 07:59 PM

It's gonna be a good year this year.





Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/14 09:44 PM

Your well ahead of me PH!
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/14 11:05 PM

Awesome
Posted By: Frenzy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/14 11:12 PM

Here's my little rinky dink garden.





Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/14 11:12 PM

Not to me. Palehorse cheats. He lives down below the gnat line.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/14 09:32 PM

any of you have asparagus beds??? if so, any recommendations between Martha Washington, DC72 or Atlas strains? those are the ones our local nursery recommended for our area (central TX) with the Atlas being more prolific & bug resistant.

our idea is to use an old oval water trough, about 2 feet wide by 5 foot long and 2 foot or so deep. We live on solid rock and everything has to be in elevated beds, old water trough hasn't been used in 15 plus years, figured I would put it to good use.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/14 09:58 PM

Several gardeners tried asparagus in my area. None of us ever had any success.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/14 10:01 PM

I do, I planted Jersey Supreme. It took a couple of years to produce but now if you miss a day harvesting it's a foot long the next day.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/14 11:18 PM

Are you fertilizing with Viagra or Cialis?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/14 11:34 PM

unicorn tears

Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/14 11:39 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Not to me. Palehorse cheats. He lives down below the gnat line.


BWAHAAHA! If you ain't cheatin, you ain't tryin. I would trade your gnats for our black marsh mosquitoes though! They are brutal.
Posted By: cmc

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/14 12:24 AM

Anbody else feel like all their plants are just gonna blow out of the ground? I swear everytime I go outside they are just getting a beating from the wind.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/14 01:17 AM

Just another variable

What's your garden look like today?
Posted By: cmc

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/14 10:57 AM

Got several of these guys, mammoth jalapeo, well not mammoth yet.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/14 12:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Just another variable

What's your garden look like today?



I'd like to step away from mine for a week. It's difficult to see growth when you go out there 6 times a day. I'll pick my first yellow squash this morning. I've been using immature onions and potatoes for week or so. My neighbor called me before dinner yesterday for some cilantro. Mine has all gone to seed.
Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/14 02:00 PM

That cilantro seed (coriander) tastes great. I will take some, toast it for a short time in a hot, dry skillet, and eat it out of hand.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/14 02:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Palehorse
That cilantro seed (coriander) tastes great. I will take some, toast it for a short time in a hot, dry skillet, and eat it out of hand.


I've seen several recipes that included coriander but never used it. Thanks for the heads up. I'll try it.
Posted By: Frenzy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/14 11:25 PM

I've got some mushrooms popping up in my soil....is that good or bad?
Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/14 11:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Frenzy
I've got some mushrooms popping up in my soil....is that good or bad?


Just means you have plenty of organic matter in your soil. Won't hurt a thing.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/14 02:24 AM

Originally Posted By: Frenzy
I've got some mushrooms popping up in my soil....is that good or bad?


Put some cow patties around them, give them a month and eat them. They will taste great

Make sure you have the next day off grin
Posted By: Frenzy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/14 01:05 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Originally Posted By: Frenzy
I've got some mushrooms popping up in my soil....is that good or bad?


Put some cow patties around them, give them a month and eat them. They will taste great

Make sure you have the next day off grin

LMAO
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/14 07:52 PM

Been looking through this thread because I plan on starting a vegetable garden in my back yard next year and a question I have is what is that black material that ya'll have covering the bed and the plants sticking through them?
Posted By: BuckRage

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/14 07:59 PM

to keep weeds down
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/14 08:27 PM

Originally Posted By: BuckRage
to keep weeds down


Ok, but what is it?
Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/14 08:51 PM

Just got home from my weekly road trip and picked my first cherry tomatoes of the season. There would be more but I ate most of them before it dawned on me to take a pic!

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/14 08:53 PM

lmao PH


its preen weed barrier HP


Planted a artichoke plant today




My lady bug army is strong



Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/14 08:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne

its preen weed barrier HP


Thank you sir.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/14 04:25 PM

Couple photos of my garden so far. Weeds (grass) getting thick, hard to manage when working out of town all week

bang


Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/14 04:47 PM

That's a farm
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/14 05:41 PM

Originally Posted By: texaspride93
That's a farm

LOL feels like it sometimes, but smaller than what I did when I was a bit younger. this spot is only 110'x 60' or so.

When I was a kid ,we farmed 50 acres for the family food and to sell/show at 4H or the farmers market, that was a total chore, but generally a majority of the crop, say 35 acres was one crop my grandfather thought would bring the most. For several years we did 40 acres in sorghum and had a mill, we made bottled molasses and sold it to supermarkets for quit a while. To this day, I don't know if I could eat molasses again LOL, but love fresh cut sorghum! up
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/14 08:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: texaspride93
That's a farm

LOL feels like it sometimes, but smaller than what I did when I was a bit younger. this spot is only 110'x 60' or so.

When I was a kid ,we farmed 50 acres for the family food and to sell/show at 4H or the farmers market, that was a total chore, but generally a majority of the crop, say 35 acres was one crop my grandfather thought would bring the most. For several years we did 40 acres in sorghum and had a mill, we made bottled molasses and sold it to supermarkets for quit a while. To this day, I don't know if I could eat molasses again LOL, but love fresh cut sorghum! up


We grew sorghum when I was growing up.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/14 09:02 PM

Any ideas from the experts? This celebrity looked fine with golf ball size fruit before 3" and rain. Now it looks like its on its last leg. All other toms look fine

Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/14 09:13 PM

Tear it up with a water hose or golf club. It'll come back with a ton of maters
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/14 09:15 PM

First fruits of my labor. Or vegetable of labor. Whatever.

Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/14 09:20 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Any ideas from the experts? This celebrity looked fine with golf ball size fruit before 3" and rain. Now it looks like its on its last leg. All other toms look fine




Might have gotten beaten up by the wind. Doesn't look like an insect issue.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/14 09:22 PM

Is it in a low spot in the garden?


Did you do a soil test this year?
Posted By: Frenzy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/14 10:12 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Any ideas from the experts? This celebrity looked fine with golf ball size fruit before 3" and rain. Now it looks like its on its last leg. All other toms look fine



Looks like it ingested some of those mushrooms and may need a day or two to recuperate.....
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/14 10:13 PM

No insects on it. Can't be wind it's in the middle of the bunch

Payne A&M told me it was perfect and to proceed bang
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/14 10:19 PM

Looks like it got excessive water to me and it's stressed out. I would wait a few days to see if it improves before pulling it up.

Can you take close up pics of the leaves?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/14 10:22 PM

Can you stick your finger 4" into the soil and see if it's real wet.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/14 10:33 PM

I had that same problem last year and suspected aphids or similar, ended up being a vole eating the roots.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/14 10:41 PM

Well I just went out to take pics and it's starting to perk up. Maybe it's in a low spot in the garden.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/14 10:50 PM

give it a little miraclegro after it dries up some
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/14 11:42 PM

Will do
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/14 11:43 PM


I wouldn't study about it too much.
Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/14 12:32 AM

Started picking some ripe mulberries off the trees today. Man they are good. Should have a bunch ripe in the next few days. We also picked our first yellow squash and zucchini today. Our okra is still only about 5-6" tall, sure seems to be growing slowly.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/14 12:38 AM

Originally Posted By: East
No insects on it. Can't be wind it's in the middle of the bunch

Payne A&M told me it was perfect and to proceed bang


I'm thinking that Tank might be responsible for this. Or barmaid. They both hate you.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/14 06:23 AM

Originally Posted By: Nathan at Fork
Started picking some ripe mulberries off the trees today. Man they are good. Should have a bunch ripe in the next few days. We also picked our first yellow squash and zucchini today. Our okra is still only about 5-6" tall, sure seems to be growing slowly.


All my okra sprouted up within days and shot up to about 4 inches overnight, and they have been like
That for 2 weeks now
Posted By: sweetwilliam

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/14 02:22 PM

I just cam across my first mulberrys,how do you know when they are ripe!
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/14 02:49 PM

Wait until the temps get consistently "hot" and that Okra will tear up a sidewalk if it's planted close! LOL
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/14 05:20 PM

Should I be watering my okra less then my cucumbers and squash? I think I heard somewhere that the okra didn't like much water
Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/14 08:32 PM

I just pulled up the last of my cool season vegetables, spinach, lettuce, and carrots. I planted edamame soybeans. I don't know if y'all have tried eating them but they are very tasty.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/14 08:44 PM

I like edamame, I don't know much about growing it.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/14 08:52 PM

Originally Posted By: phat694
I like edamame, I don't know much about growing it.


Ditto
Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/14 08:58 PM

Nothing to it. It grows very well in Texas. It loves the heat, is somewhat drought tolerant, and it doesn't need a lot of fertilizer.

http://vegetablematter.blogspot.com/2010/05/get-growing-in-may.html
Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/14 12:32 AM

Originally Posted By: sweetwilliam
I just cam across my first mulberrys,how do you know when they are ripe!


They get very dark red, almost black. That's when they are the sweetest. ITs also when the birds get on them extremely fast. We usually have a window of about two days to pick ripe mulberries and after those two days, the trees are bare from the birds getting them. We have two big mulberry trees. We never have made anything out of them, we end up eating them all smile
Posted By: sweetwilliam

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/14 12:49 AM

Thanks Nathan!
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/14 05:11 PM

Something ate the tips off one of my grape tomato plants



other than that, everything is looking good (disregard the broke down lawn mower, I am waiting on Nav to bump the trade value)

Posted By: Cast

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/14 05:16 PM

That will be a tomato worm, get in there and find it and it's buddies.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/14 05:18 PM

thats what I figured, but looked and looked. Couldn't find him

will look more after work
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/14 05:20 PM

Thats what it looks like to me too. Hate them suckers. Other than that, looking good East.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/14 05:41 PM

Tomato horn worm is right. I found one on one of my tomato plants this morning. There was one on one pf my pepper plants but I couldn't find it.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/14 05:50 PM

good catfish strangling bait
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/14 05:51 PM

Hate em'
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/14 06:04 PM

Spray with Spinosad and you wont have them bastages.

Garden looks great East.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/14 09:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Spray with Spinosad and you wont have them bastages. good tip thanks

Garden looks great East. X2



Went to Victoria today

Uncles garden



His neighbors next door

Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/14 09:42 PM

Has anyone had success with a Peach Tree? Been thinking about getting one for the backyard. Info on it says they can be grown in Texas but curious if anyone here has actually successfully grown one?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/14 09:45 PM

I have five peach trees, they'll do fine.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/14 09:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
I have five peach trees, they'll do fine.


Make a dump cake with a quart of them when they ripen.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/14 10:00 PM

Duly noted Bill..


Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/14 10:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
I have five peach trees, they'll do fine.


Awesome.
Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/14 10:30 PM

Out of the orchard we planted, the peach trees have done the best out of all the different fruits. Second best is plum.

We picked probably 1000 potato bugs today. Our plants were coated in them. To bad the chickens don't like them.

Also picked about 4 cups of ripe mulberries. Man they are good. But, if we dropped any they were immediately sucked up by either the chickens or the dogs.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/14 10:35 PM



Squash is coming up great! This is 11 days after planting seeds.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/14 10:41 PM

Originally Posted By: texaspride93


Squash is coming up great! This is 11 days after planting seeds.



loser8
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/14 10:56 PM

What?
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/14 12:10 AM

Think he is saying that is not 11 days after planting seeds

Which it isn't.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/14 12:13 AM

Yeah it is.

Edit: I have everything journaled. It was May 1st I replanted all squash and green beans because the first seeds were not coming up.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/14 12:23 AM

Originally Posted By: Nathan at Fork
Out of the orchard we planted, the peach trees have done the best out of all the different fruits. Second best is plum.

We picked probably 1000 potato bugs today. Our plants were coated in them. To bad the chickens don't like them.

Also picked about 4 cups of ripe mulberries. Man they are good. But, if we dropped any they were immediately sucked up by either the chickens or the dogs.



Need some guineas.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/14 12:30 AM

Tried to order some today. Every where I looked is out till end of June.

TP93 no it's not
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/14 12:35 AM

Originally Posted By: Nathan at Fork
Out of the orchard we planted, the peach trees have done the best out of all the different fruits. Second best is plum.

We picked probably 1000 potato bugs today. Our plants were coated in them. To bad the chickens don't like them.

Also picked about 4 cups of ripe mulberries. Man they are good. But, if we dropped any they were immediately sucked up by either the chickens or the dogs.


Look into Spinosad, or read this below, if you want to be bored, or try Guineas if you can stand the noise LOL

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09064710902934205#preview
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/14 12:49 AM

Yeah it's not, it's 12 days old.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/14 12:53 AM

You realize that's three plants right? I will thin to two per hill around 25 days old
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/14 01:23 AM

Originally Posted By: Western
try Guineas if you can stand the noise LOL



Second best job they do after pest control. They will alert you to any disturbance in their territory.


Posted By: mike a

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/14 04:40 AM

Originally Posted By: East
Any ideas from the experts? This celebrity looked fine with golf ball size fruit before 3" and rain. Now it looks like its on its last leg. All other toms look fine



I have one that has done the same thing. I think it is over watered by the rain. I looked for a hornworm on mine and could not find one. Mine is trying to come back.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/14 11:55 AM

You can generally see really big droppings at the base of your plants when you have the horn worms.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/14 01:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Originally Posted By: Western
try Guineas if you can stand the noise LOL



Second best job they do after pest control. They will alert you to any disturbance in their territory.




Got that right!
I had them about 15 years ago and they like to "travel", but they sure do like to "chatter". Bugs, shoot, wont see any if you have them. I would have some now, but since we only have 15+ acres, they'd be PO the nieghbors and keeping me up since I sleep days usually.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/14 02:00 PM

I only have 5 acres, but am thinking about getting some. Not sure how that's gonna work out though...
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/14 02:22 PM

I dont have much more than you Skinner, and I am going to as well
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/14 02:23 PM

up
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/14 02:30 PM

they will end up living down the road/elsewhere if you have a small piece of land. guineas don't/wont stay put and they like to lay in the roads if you are close to one. Save your money
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/14 03:59 PM

They do travel, but there are was to acclimate them to "home'. Mine where gone sometimes for 3-4 days at surrounding neighbors, then they'd show up for a while. If you can raise them from chicks in a decent sized coop, with high places to roost, that will help. Some say to let half out at a time, but wear ear plugs LOL
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/14 09:10 PM

I did an at home soil test and found that my soil ph is between 7-8. I want to bring it down to 6 and I know I need to use some aluminum sulfate and was wondering what product ya'll have used to bring it down.

Another question is if I do lower the ph level of the soil will it stay there or will I need to apply aluminum sulfate every year or so?
Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/14 09:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Humannpower
I did an at home soil test and found that my soil ph is between 7-8. I want to bring it down to 6 and I know I need to use some aluminum sulfate and was wondering what product ya'll have used to bring it down.

Another question is if I do lower the ph level of the soil will it stay there or will I need to apply aluminum sulfate every year or so?


I had to bring mine down a bit too. I used a weak solution of vinegar applied once a week for a couple of months. It's now down to around 6.5.
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/14 09:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Palehorse
I had to bring mine down a bit too. I used a weak solution of vinegar applied once a week for a couple of months. It's now down to around 6.5.


Once you got it down has it stayed there? I'm prepping a section of my back yard for a vegetable garden next year.
Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/14 10:09 PM

No, not really but the raise in pH has slowed a bit this year. I figure, any alkalinity will eventually be neutralized but it may take awhile longer.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/14 10:32 PM



Dude that has taken residence in the garden.
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/14 10:34 PM

Nice up
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/14 11:22 PM

I already love Dude.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/14 12:06 AM

Who's duke?
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/14 04:43 AM

See the edit. That's what I figured you meant but wasn't sure. I had everything covered in cups and plastic again because it's getting close/near freezing this week up here and when I moved the plastic this afternoon he was hanging in the warm wet plastic. He ran away fairly quick, but hope stays and eats my bugs
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/14 11:06 AM

Stir fry your squash with an onion, and add salsa for a couple of minutes. It's good that way and will take a good bit of pepper.
Posted By: redchevy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/14 04:42 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Stir fry your squash with an onion, and add salsa for a couple of minutes. It's good that way and will take a good bit of pepper.


Had our first ones from the garden last night. All we used was salt pepper and onion, can't wait till more are ready to pick!!!
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/14 04:49 PM

I transplated a tomato plant I bought into a upside down tomato hanger less than a week ago and this morning I check it and found 3 flowers coming in. I'm excited to see how big they get. This is my first vegetable plant.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/14 05:49 PM





Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/14 05:56 PM

That's a funny looking squash in that bottom pic!
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/14 07:18 PM

Never grew turtles before bolt
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/14 07:55 PM

You need a sewer system and some pizza to get them to grow properly..
Posted By: BuckRage

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/14 09:47 PM

roflmao
Posted By: Navasot

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/14 04:14 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Something ate the tips off one of my grape tomato plants



other than that, everything is looking good (disregard the broke down lawn mower, I am waiting on Nav to bump the trade value)



This picture didn't help the cause lol
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/14 08:52 PM

Day 14 east. Same hill.

Posted By: My best friend has a tail

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/14 08:54 PM

Looks like cut worms are munching your mater plants.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/14 09:04 PM

Originally Posted By: texaspride93
Day 14 east. Same hill.




Maybe that one in the left bottom corner if planted from seed...........germination takes that long. Maybe if you bought them from Lowes or Home Depot but that aint 14 days from seed


another loser8
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/14 09:07 PM

Nope they are from seed. Planted on the first. Can't believe y'all don't believe me.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/14 09:18 PM

Originally Posted By: texaspride93
Nope they are from seed. Planted on the first. Can't believe y'all don't believe me.



http://www.heirloomseeds.com/germination.html



Because some of us have been doing it longer than you have lived hammer
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/14 09:34 PM

Ok. So it germinated in 7 days like that chart said and now it's 1.5 inches tall with two leaves. Not something I choose to lie about. I'll brag and exaggerate a lot of things but my squash is not one of them. I'll keep y'all updated.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/14 10:10 PM

Originally Posted By: texaspride93
Ok. So it germinated in 7 days like that chart said and now it's 1.5 inches tall with two leaves. Not something I choose to lie about. I'll brag and exaggerate a lot of things but my squash is not one of them. I'll keep y'all updated.



Next time I kill a lil buck or pig I want you to take its pics............ grin
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/14 10:22 PM

Ok will do. Let me know!
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/14 10:10 PM

I need to raise the Nitrogen and Phosphorus levels in my soil because both are low. I've looked into mixing mushroom compost into it to resolve the issue. Can I put the mushroom compost in now or should I wait until a couple of months before I start putting seeds in the dirt next year?
Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/14 11:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Humannpower
I need to raise the Nitrogen and Phosphorus levels in my soil because both are low. I've looked into mixing mushroom compost into it to resolve the issue. Can I put the mushroom compost in now or should I wait until a couple of months before I start putting seeds in the dirt next year?

There is very little nitrogen and even less phosphorous in mushroom compost. If you are looking to go the organic route, fish emulsion is high in nitrogen as is blood meal or seed meal. For phosphorous, bone meal is a good source.
If you don't care if it's organic or not, plain ole Miracle Grow will get you fixed up with both.
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/14 11:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Palehorse
Originally Posted By: Humannpower
I need to raise the Nitrogen and Phosphorus levels in my soil because both are low. I've looked into mixing mushroom compost into it to resolve the issue. Can I put the mushroom compost in now or should I wait until a couple of months before I start putting seeds in the dirt next year?

There is very little nitrogen and even less phosphorous in mushroom compost. If you are looking to go the organic route, fish emulsion is high in nitrogen as is blood meal or seed meal. For phosphorous, bone meal is a good source.
If you don't care if it's organic or not, plain ole Miracle Grow will get you fixed up with both.


Thanks for saving me from wasting money.
Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/14 11:45 PM

No prob compadre.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/14 12:19 AM

Some first picked peppers....

Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/14 01:27 AM

nice Phat
Posted By: texretvet

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/14 03:23 AM

We sauteed up some squash a couple days ago, and had cabbage slaw tonight with burgers. We have had quite a bit of asparagus. This is the first year that it has really produced. I have also pulled a couple of small onions already. Seems half of my onions never make it to full size because I just can't wait on them. I have lots of green tomatoes just about frying size.

As you can see from the first pic, cabbage worms are killing me this year.





Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/14 02:20 PM

Thuricide will get rid of those cabbage worms overnight.

I got more than my seeds back on my potatoes this year. I just dug up 3 hills and have over 12 pounds of potatoes. Most are in the 8 to 12 ounce range and uniform. I'm baking one to go with my steak tonight, I'm making potato salad tomorrow morning, and Pan frying some with polish sausage for dinner tomorrow night.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/14 07:53 PM

Bill, sounds like some great "grubb" at your house! Have your plants flowered yet? Mine have and still going strong. Haven't dug any to see whats going on under there yet.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/14 11:36 PM

Look for cracks in the ground and scratch around there. You can see what you have. I never know what blooms mean with potatoes.
Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/14 01:53 AM

Here is how our garden is coming along.



Posted By: texretvet

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/14 04:20 AM

Nice garden, Nathan. Hey, where are your carrots?
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/14 03:40 PM

Well apparantly my dog Buddy doesn't like vegetables very much. Yesterday I found that half of my hanging Tomoato plant was gone. It looks like he stood on his hind legs and just took a bite out of it. Now the leaves on it are wilting. If I keep watering it will it survive or is it done for?
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/14 05:41 PM

Nathan, looks great, your tomatoes are far bigger than my 2nd planting .

HP, I'd go ahead and keep watering, sometimes they will grow even harder after stuff like that.


I don't know about y'all s places, but after inspecting my corn yesterday, corn borers galore!. Hope I'm not to late with treatment, bad thing about working out of town. I sprayed Spinosad last night and then ordered some Lacewings and Trichogamma wasp, may be to late for them. IDK. Didnt have them like this last year.
Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/14 12:05 AM

I haven't checked my corn yet, guess I need to get on it.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/14 11:23 PM

I remember reading from a book called The Help. This one great southern cook was giving lessons. She advised that you should always cook what's in. "What's in," is southern for throwing them over the fence.

My garden is mostly in. I had pan fried potatoes with polish sausage for dinner tonight. It was wonderful. You start with onions and potatoes and just go from there. Here you go;

Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/14 02:41 AM

food Looks good!
Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/14 04:58 AM

I haven't checked mt potatoes yet. Gonna have to dig some tomorrow to see if they are big enough to eat, that picture really has me wanting some fresh potatoes.

Weve stopped picking our lettuce and spinach. Just way to much. Not sure what the wife was thinking, but I think she has 30 lettuce plants (3 different kinds) and 10 spinach plants, sheesh!

I think we have around 100 corn stalks going good. We planted some pumpkin seeds and those are already a foot tall, Probably have around 60 potato plants going, around 20 tomato plants, 20 bean/peas, a lot more stuff. I think this is the biggest garden we have done yet. Planning to can a lot.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/14 01:23 PM

Looks delicious Bill!!
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/14 07:03 PM

well I've started tilling up a 25x20 area in my backyard that I'm gonna use as a vegetable garden and I'm hoping I have it ready to do a fall crop but this soil is proving to be difficult to till. Been using an eletric tiller and a hand tiller and after 4 hours of work I only have 3/4 of the outer edge done. This soil is just so hard but I'm hoping that watering over the next few days will make it easier to till the 6 inches I need.
Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/14 07:26 PM

You could cheat. Lay down some cardboard over the grass and weeds. Build several raised bed frames, put them over the cardboard and fill them up with some decent topsoil and compost. You can plant some shallow rooting stuff right away.
After several months, the grass and weeds under the cardboard will be dead and the cardboard will have rotted away. The underlying soil will have softened enough to dig in with a garden fork. You don't need to till after that. Before you plant again, just loosen the soil with a garden fork without turning. If you have enough compost, worms will take care of the rest. You can now plant deep rooting stuff like tomatoes.
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/14 07:37 PM

Yeah I don't wanna cheat and my soil is actually pretty good soil. The ph is only 1-2 points higher than it needs to be which I'll be rectifiying with a soil acidifer and the soil has low nitrogen and phosphorus levels which I'll fix with a granual fertilizer. It's gonna be hard work for sure but I'm confident in the end it will pay off. I'll mix in some bags of compost a month before plant seeds to give it a little boost.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/14 07:50 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Looks delicious Bill!!


Thanks a bunch.

It still gives me a little lift to dig up a great hill of potatoes. I love it when parents with little children come to get vegetables from my garden. Some of the children are amassed to se the potatoes come out of the ground.
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/14 07:54 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Thanks a bunch.

It still gives me a little lift to dig up a great hill of potatoes. I love it when parents with little children come to get vegetables from my garden. Some of the children are amassed to se the potatoes come out of the ground.



What potatoes do you grow bill?
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/14 07:56 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Looks delicious Bill!!


Thanks a bunch.

It still gives me a little lift to dig up a great hill of potatoes. I love it when parents with little children come to get vegetables from my garden. Some of the children are amassed to se the potatoes come out of the ground.



I hear ya, my 3yr old nephew is coming this weekend, cant wait to show him how good the onions look that he helped me plant.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/14 08:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Humannpower
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Thanks a bunch.

It still gives me a little lift to dig up a great hill of potatoes. I love it when parents with little children come to get vegetables from my garden. Some of the children are amassed to se the potatoes come out of the ground.



What potatoes do you grow bill?


One of the most common reds and California white. I tried those Yukon golds one year and didn't care for them.
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/14 08:58 PM

Where do you get your potato seeds?
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/14 09:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Humannpower
Where do you get your potato seeds?


I got mine at the local feed store, you can also order them online.

I tried the Yukon Golds this year and they didnt do near as good as the reds I planted, so IDK.
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/14 09:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: Humannpower
Where do you get your potato seeds?


I got mine at the local feed store, you can also order them online.

I tried the Yukon Golds this year and they didnt do near as good as the reds I planted, so IDK.


Thanks for the info. Luckily I'm not very far from a feed store. Really want to grow the California whites since I've heard they do so well in Texas.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/14 09:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Humannpower
Where do you get your potato seeds?


Yep. Feed store. I planted mine whole the first week in February.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/14 10:41 PM

Picked today and my back is killing me

The bucket on the left is 7 gallon

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/14 11:23 PM

That's why I gave up on green beans. Back in the old days we called them string beans or snap beans. Blanch them and freeze them. Most people boil them until they taste like they came out of a can. Not me. I like to blanch them and stir fry them in butter and add lemon juice.

You can eat only about one squash a day. They're good stir fried with an onion and then tossed with salsa. They can be frozen this way.

Will some of you share other ways to use some of your fresh vegetables from the garden? I'm loaded and live on a cul-d-sac. I have no one to give mine to.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/14 11:30 PM

http://www.foodpantries.org/ci/tx-rosenberg
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/14 11:38 PM



Thanks a bunch. It's only 8 miles from me.

I'd still like to hear some of your recipes.
Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/14 01:56 AM

We dug up some potatoes this evening for the first time and they are doing nicely. Asked the wife to boil them instead of pan frying and she goes and makes potato salad out of them. Oh well, it was still good. Especialy with the fresh fried crappie that was swimming in the lake this morning.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/14 10:42 AM

I always called them seed potatoes. I also made some potato salad Tuesday when the window people were here. It went well with my marinated salad and Popeye's Fried Chicken. (Tuesday's special thigh and drumstick for $.99. Spicy of course.)

They're fine zapped in the microwave for 6 minutes, and great for giving away. They don't keep well for me. I was told that they will keep better if you don't wash them. I remember that we took them into town and sold them for three cents a pound when I was growing up.
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/14 03:43 PM

So here's a picture of the work that I've gotten done so far. I'm gonna be working on it a bit more today.

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/14 03:54 PM

It's a shame we live so far apart. You could keep my Troy tiller a couple of months. It's good for them to be used.
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/14 03:59 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
It's a shame we live so far apart. You could keep my Troy tiller a couple of months. It's good for them to be used.


Thanks Bill. I plan on using a shovel to dig up the dirt and then just till it
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/14 09:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Humannpower
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
It's a shame we live so far apart. You could keep my Troy tiller a couple of months. It's good for them to be used.


Thanks Bill. I plan on using a shovel to dig up the dirt and then just till it


I should have known by your user name.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/14 09:15 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: Humannpower
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
It's a shame we live so far apart. You could keep my Troy tiller a couple of months. It's good for them to be used.


Thanks Bill. I plan on using a shovel to dig up the dirt and then just till it


I should have known by your user name.


roflmao
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/14 04:27 AM

My garden is toast this year, the soil is too "hot". Unbeknownst to me, my wife tilled in fresh manure instead of putting it in the compost for a year.
Posted By: Cast

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/14 02:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Halfadozen
My garden is toast this year, the soil is too "hot". Unbeknownst to me, my wife tilled in fresh manure instead of putting it in the compost for a year.


Can't you just water in a bag of lime and help it cool down?
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/14 03:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Cast
Originally Posted By: Halfadozen
My garden is toast this year, the soil is too "hot". Unbeknownst to me, my wife tilled in fresh manure instead of putting it in the compost for a year.


Can't you just water in a bag of lime and help it cool down?


Or grow some corn, they suck nutrients out of the ground! May not get a harvest, but doesn't matter at this point.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/14 08:23 PM

Bugs I'm having to deal with so far.

In the snap beans, I have a small group of Lycaenid Pod Borers, have been random probably because the Spinosad has worked so good, but I have killed around 15.

Used my torch today on the squash and zucs, killed 8 squash bugs and cooked around 2k eggs and probably 200 hatch-lings!. Bow they show up fast!!

Also torched (again) Harlequin stink bugs on the broccoli I have left as trap plants, killed maybe 30 adults, 500 nymphs and 200 eggs.

Man, I love using the torch, works instantly LOL

Last week we found we where severely infested with Corn borers moths in the corn tassels, Sprayed Spinosad before leaving out of town for work and on inspection, the damage has stopped. My corn should be pick-able in 15-20 days, as the silks are growing great. We got some Mineral oil today and infant droppers/syringes so when the silks start to brown, we can add a few drops to kill any corn borer worms in each husk.

I need to spray Spinosad again, but we finally have a good chance of rain over the next couple of days, so will get it done afterwards.

We also released some Trichogramma parasitic wasps and lacewing eggs, so hopefully they pitch in. Probably a bit late for the wasp, but they are cheap and may establish a residence.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/14 08:55 PM

where did you get the wasps?
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/14 09:29 PM

I get mine at the nurseries. They come on a paper tab.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/14 11:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
where did you get the wasps?


http://www.planetnatural.com/
Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/14 01:29 AM

Anybody else have 4' tall lettuce and spinach plants? Havent picked any in a while and they have shot at least 4' tall. Two have actually fallen over.

Cant wait for the tomatoes to start getting ripe. Just lots of green ones so far.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/14 01:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: Payne
where did you get the wasps?


http://www.planetnatural.com/


Thanks, nice site.
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/14 05:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Cast
Originally Posted By: Halfadozen
My garden is toast this year, the soil is too "hot". Unbeknownst to me, my wife tilled in fresh manure instead of putting it in the compost for a year.


Can't you just water in a bag of lime and help it cool down?

Cast, I have four 8'x8' raised beds. How much lime do you think this would need?
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/14 05:30 PM

Picked some wild blackberries yesterday out by the lake. Then made some jam.





Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/14 05:31 PM

Nice, Phat. Very nice!
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/14 06:29 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
Nice, Phat. Very nice!


X's 10!!

I have only a few wild plants and this year something cleaned them out. The ones I am growing, seem to be doing poorly this year as well.
Posted By: thecoach

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/14 07:48 PM

How do y'all store your onions after you dig them up?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/14 08:03 PM

Originally Posted By: thecoach
How do y'all store your onions after you dig them up?


I cook and can with a lot of mine. I give away a good bit. I keep about enough of them to fill one of my vegetable crispers in my frig. They'll keep it there until almost Thanksgiving. Some start growing again.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/14 09:28 PM

Originally Posted By: thecoach
How do y'all store your onions after you dig them up?


When I was a kid, the ladys would braid the leaves together in a long string of bubs and hang them in the dark cellar
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/14 09:41 PM

Thanks guys. I was surprised how many there was, I had picked 8 cups before to started to rain. I'll have to go back in a few days to clean up the rest.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/14 09:43 PM

looks great phat
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/14 09:44 PM

Originally Posted By: phat694
Thanks guys. I was surprised how many there was, I had picked 8 cups before to started to rain. I'll have to go back in a few days to clean up the rest.


That looks like one squared away kitchen.
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/14 10:48 PM

So I was digging up the area for the vegetable garden and ran into a little surprise. Found 3 inch concrete slabs and bricks. This is gonna take a while.



Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/14 12:32 AM

HP, some folks find concrete and bricks and some folks find jars of old coins, just wasn't your day brudda! LOL
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/14 01:53 PM

So the electric tiller I have isn't going to cut it and I'm gonna have to use a gas powered tiller. Just going to rent one from Home Depot and was wondering if I should go with the front end tiller or a rear tiller since the ground hasn't been tilled before?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/14 02:03 PM

Rear time.

I think some of my tomatoes and bell peppers are on the ground from the heavy wind and rains. I'll need an umbrella to go out and check on them. I'm eating a few tomatoes but not the really good ones yet. There's always a little something wrong with your first ripe tomatoes. I'll have enough good ones to share next week.
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/14 02:07 PM

thanks Bill and looking forward to seeing them. I also forgot to mention that the hanging tomato plant that Buddy bite in half is actually doing good because there is alot of new growth on it.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/14 05:18 PM

you want rear tines.

pick some this morning



grape tomatoes are coming in, the rest are filling out well. Garden is flooded, hope the don't rot.

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/14 05:26 PM

They won't rot. I pick my first tomatoes at first blush.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/14 05:28 PM

you haven't seen my garden today...
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/14 08:17 PM

Rear tine like they said and dont try to go to deep on each pass, if it has a depth control use it. You will see allot of reviews of folks cussing rear tines because the got "dragged", same as front tine tillers, virgin ground where the blades are in control, the dam thing can move as fast as the tines spin. go for 3" on each pass IMO and see how it goes.
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/14 08:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Rear tine like they said and dont try to go to deep on each pass, if it has a depth control use it. You will see allot of reviews of folks cussing rear tines because the got "dragged", same as front tine tillers, virgin ground where the blades are in control, the dam thing can move as fast as the tines spin. go for 3" on each pass IMO and see how it goes.


Thanks for the advice. This is gonna be a busy week for me but it will be worth it in the end.
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/14 10:54 PM

I've been doing some researching for my fall crop and I'm wanting to plant potatoes but im getting conflicting information. Some places say I can and others say I can't. I want to do red and california whites. Can I plant those for a fall crop?
Posted By: Frenzy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/14 11:20 PM

I got a few tomato's eaten by birds today. Should I do a scarecrow, maybe a fake owl, or netting?
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/14 11:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Frenzy
I got a few tomato's eaten by birds today. Should I do a scarecrow, maybe a fake owl, or netting?


Shotgun elmer

I believe a scarecrow should be able to do the job.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/14 11:25 PM

netting is the most effective ime
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/14 11:33 PM

That's why I pick my first tomatoes at first blush.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/14 02:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
netting is the most effective ime


^^ Fairly cheap too.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/14 02:16 AM

Originally Posted By: Humannpower
I've been doing some researching for my fall crop and I'm wanting to plant potatoes but im getting conflicting information. Some places say I can and others say I can't. I want to do red and california whites. Can I plant those for a fall crop?


Here is some good info from A&M

http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/vegetable/files/2010/10/E-511_irish_potato1.pdf

Here is the main site where you can look at other plants reccomemded for Texas, not all inclusive, but a good FOB to start at.
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/vegetable/
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/14 12:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: Payne
netting is the most effective ime


^^ Fairly cheap too.


just dont get all carried away with it
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/14 02:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: Humannpower
I've been doing some researching for my fall crop and I'm wanting to plant potatoes but im getting conflicting information. Some places say I can and others say I can't. I want to do red and california whites. Can I plant those for a fall crop?


Here is some good info from A&M

http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/vegetable/files/2010/10/E-511_irish_potato1.pdf

Here is the main site where you can look at other plants reccomemded for Texas, not all inclusive, but a good FOB to start at.
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/vegetable/


Thanks for the info Western
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/14 08:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Humannpower
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: Humannpower
I've been doing some researching for my fall crop and I'm wanting to plant potatoes but im getting conflicting information. Some places say I can and others say I can't. I want to do red and california whites. Can I plant those for a fall crop?


Here is some good info from A&M

http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/vegetable/files/2010/10/E-511_irish_potato1.pdf

Here is the main site where you can look at other plants reccomemded for Texas, not all inclusive, but a good FOB to start at.
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/vegetable/


Thanks for the info Western


I tried them one year. That's when the girl at the feed store told me, "you don't cut potatoes when you plant them in the fall." They didn't do very well. I never tried them again.

I don't cut mine when I plant them in February.
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/14 08:21 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: Humannpower
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: Humannpower
I've been doing some researching for my fall crop and I'm wanting to plant potatoes but im getting conflicting information. Some places say I can and others say I can't. I want to do red and california whites. Can I plant those for a fall crop?


Here is some good info from A&M

http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/vegetable/files/2010/10/E-511_irish_potato1.pdf

Here is the main site where you can look at other plants reccomemded for Texas, not all inclusive, but a good FOB to start at.
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/vegetable/


Thanks for the info Western


I tried them one year. That's when the girl at the feed store told me, "you don't cut potatoes when you plant them in the fall." They didn't do very well. I never tried them again.

I don't cut mine when I plant them in February.


Hopefully mine do well.

I finally got the garden layed out use the garden planner on the Farmers Almanac website. Pretty neat tool overall. I really like the fact that it gives info on spacing and what vegetables work well together. Gonna go for Watermelon, potatoes, tomatoes, squash, zucchini, cucumber, lettuce, broccoli, and carrots for a fall crop.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/14 08:23 PM

my wife bought a bunch of cheap pinwheels and attached to the top of the tomato cages and then stuck a few in the ground around the bottom. Seems to keep the birds away fairly well (as long as there is the least little amount of wind to make them spin).
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/14 01:54 AM

Here is a good, detailed read on potatoes. May explain why some get better potatoes at times. I know if you cut potatoes, you must allow the cuts to heal. Planting in cool,wet soil also can have a huge impact on seed survival.

This year we cut ours and put them in ashes from our fireplace, then allowed them to dry and warm-up in the house a couple of days before planting, they seemed to have done good..so far.

http://umaine.edu/publications/2412e/
Posted By: mike a

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/14 03:03 AM

To stop the birds I have heard of glass Christmas ornaments hung around the tomatoes and the silver string that gets put on the Christmas tree called icicles.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/14 02:50 PM

Getting close!!


Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/14 02:53 PM

Looks great CC
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/14 02:53 PM

nice up
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/14 02:59 PM

How much room between rows have ya'll done for watermelon?
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/14 03:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Humannpower
How much room between rows have ya'll done for watermelon?


10'

grin
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/14 03:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Humannpower
How much room between rows have ya'll done for watermelon?



http://www.ehow.com/how_7622301_space-watermelon-plants.html
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/14 03:19 PM

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.burpee.gardenplanner
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/14 03:38 PM

Thanks for the info. Was just wanting to make sure I had good spacing in my planner.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/14 03:26 PM

I just dug up a great hill of red potatoes to share with my neighbors. There were around 6 pounds in there all perfect size. The California whites only had 4 in there but they were nice. It's still a little wet to be digging.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/01/14 04:45 PM

We just got picking our 7th, 5 gallon bucket of contender snap beans! 7 buckets total for the year out of 5-45' rows. I am seeing a mutiny in the "snapping the beans corps" group confused2

I have another 5 rows of beans, but forgot what the he77 I planted? I will be much loved when we start on those bang
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/01/14 08:22 PM

That's a good amount of beans to pick Dennis.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/01/14 09:57 PM

YEP! I gave up on those suckers a few years ago. I don't miss picking and snapping them a bit. I now only grow things that will make a meal almost by themselves.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/02/14 01:20 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
YEP! I gave up on those suckers a few years ago. I don't miss picking and snapping them a bit. I now only grow things that will make a meal almost by themselves.


Bill, your smarter than me, we hardly got any last year for the darn cuc beetles. So this year I planted more and used the Spinosad.....Abundance LOL

Got the corn cobs oiled and just in time I hope, we saw about 10 worms, so hopefully we drowned the rest.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/02/14 02:38 AM

Well its happened again.

I enjoy a few jalapenos with dinner. We had some fried back strap, and nothing taste better than that with a small bite of a jap to go with it. But once again, they are fire hot.

Which sucks, cause Payne is running the pepper challenge this year.

I have some in the GH 3" long, hopefully they wont be this hot.

Wonder what it is that makes them so hot. I didn't add anything to my soil this year.....?
Posted By: thecoach

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/02/14 03:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Western

Got the corn cobs oiled and just in time I hope, we saw about 10 worms, so hopefully we drowned the rest.


Tell me more.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/02/14 04:34 AM

Originally Posted By: thecoach
Originally Posted By: Western

Got the corn cobs oiled and just in time I hope, we saw about 10 worms, so hopefully we drowned the rest.


Tell me more.


Use 3-5 drops of mineral oil (some use veg oil, but it draws ants), with a syringe/eye dropper without the needle, put the oil where the silk meets the husk. It will soak down into the ear and suffocate the corn worm.

These probably will make more sense.
http://www.pfi.iastate.edu/ofr/Crops/SA1...l_and%20Btk.pdf

http://homeguides.sfgate.com/mineral-oil-corn-earworms-39677.html
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/02/14 04:02 PM




The chickens are loving the big squash..


All the tomato plants are loaded. Jalapenos are coming around. Cayennes & Serranos need to catch up. Beans are getting there. Egg Plants are starting to bloom. Plums are done for the year.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/02/14 05:25 PM

You the man. Four of my bell peppers turned out to be long skinny peppers. I pulled them up.
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/14 02:27 AM

Hey guys a little fyi when buying the plants in the biodegradable pots. Make sure you read the directions. I noticed my tomato plant had little bumps all over the stem and I looked it up and one reason was from over watering and the other was from the roots not expanding. Well lo and behold I was a dumb fark and didn't tear the bottom half of the pot off of it so the roots hadn't been expanding. I figured it out after a bought a strawberry plant to put in my other topsy turny thing. Remember Kids The More You Know
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/14 02:58 AM

HP, says it right on the side of the container when you pull off the cellophane LOL.

I bury my tomatoes darn near to the last 2 leaves, get a ton more roots like that.
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/14 03:27 AM

Originally Posted By: Western
HP, says it right on the side of the container when you pull off the cellophane LOL.


Like I said. I'm a dumb fark.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/14 04:55 AM

If you lay those maters on their side for a couple of days, they will grow at a 90 degree angle. Plant them this way and they will have a huge root system.
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/14 05:01 AM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
If you lay those maters on their side for a couple of days, they will grow at a 90 degree angle. Plant them this way and they will have a huge root system.
this does work!
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/14 04:24 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
If you lay those maters on their side for a couple of days, they will grow at a 90 degree angle. Plant them this way and they will have a huge root system.


Yep, both ways get the same result, I just find it easier to plant str8 up in a deeper hole.
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/14 06:15 PM

How much weight do yall think a pressure treated 8ft 2x4 handled if it's screwed into the top of posts on both ends?
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/14 07:45 PM

Horizontally I'd thin 200# or so, vertically or flat, much less.
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/14 07:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Horizontally I'd thin 200# or so, vertically or flat, much less.


Ok thanks. Looking to move my hanging tomato and strawberry plants to the yard so they can get more Sun but I have no trees to hang them off of. Right now they are only getting I think 5 or so hours of sun and its from the afternoon to evening sun light. Hoping that if I move them they will do better.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/14 08:50 PM

They will never grow good in those topsy turvy things.........5 hrs of afternoon-evening sun is way plenty of heat.
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/14 08:54 PM

Originally Posted By: takewhatyoucan64
They will never grow good in those topsy turvy things.........5 hrs of afternoon-evening sun is way plenty of heat.


Ok I see.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/14 10:22 PM

My tomatoes get about 7 hrs of full sun, but they quit really producing when the temps get 90-95, that is how it's been for me. Cherry tomatoes seem to last longer.

I dont know anything about those "upside down" tomatoes, but they sure do good on the infomercials! rofl
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/14 01:15 AM

Question: my onions are splitting the ground to the point I can see the actually onion! Guess I didn't plant sets low enough. What do I need to do? I pulled two and they are just exactly golf ball size! What do I do?
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/14 01:45 AM

Originally Posted By: texaspride93
Question: my onions are splitting the ground to the point I can see the actually onion! Guess I didn't plant sets low enough. What do I need to do? I pulled two and they are just exactly golf ball size! What do I do?


You want to be able to see the onion, if you cant, they are too deep. I used to see fields of onions in Colorado and California, they where 3/4's or so, out of the ground. Keep them weed free and watered and they will do good. At least half should be visible.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/14 01:48 AM

Great news. I followed directions but this is first year for onions... as well as cucumbers and green beans
Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/14 01:51 AM

Yep, Our onions are planted to deep and the bulb is not getting big. Lesson learned.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/14 01:53 AM

Originally Posted By: texaspride93
Great news. I followed directions but this is first year for onions... as well as cucumbers and green beans


I added an edit to above post.

You may want to buy some Spinosad, for your plants. I say it all the time, because I believe in it that much. If your in the garden and see the cucumber beetle, all he77 is going to break loose and can get worse each year if you dont deal with them. Cuc beetles look like a ladybug, but are green with black dots. Or if you see one with stripes Kill it!
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/14 01:58 AM

Look at this site and get familiar with them danm bugs. grin I have stopped using commercial bug killer and now use Spinosad and beneficial insects. This is the 1st year I have had super natural supplies of Lady bugs and allot of assassin bugs. I have also bought and released several other kinds. working great and no poison in my veggies.

http://earthbox.com/bug-chart
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/14 01:59 AM

Originally Posted By: Nathan at Fork
Yep, Our onions are planted to deep and the bulb is not getting big. Lesson learned.


Nathan, you can pull the dirt back, they should still be growing. I'd take half the dirt away, you have nothing to loose.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/14 02:45 AM

my 1015's didnt get to big, though I have a few baseball size ones.
Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/14 03:56 AM

All of ours are probably golf ball size. Ill try uncovering them and see if that helps any. Thanks.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/14 11:31 AM

It's a slow year to maturity on a lot on garden vegetables for me. My red onions matured on time but were on the smaller size. My 1015 still have green upright stalks which means that they are still growing. They'll fall over when they're done.

I have ripe tomatoes but they came late. None of my bell peppers are turning colors.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/14 02:26 PM

Bill, I have the same problem with my peppers. I have even forgot which ones should be red or yellow since they are all "Green" so far. Flavor though is still excellent!
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/14 03:41 PM

Those late winter/early spring freezes have played hell on my onions. My whole garden seems like its about two to three weeks behind schedule.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/14 04:01 PM

Me too, peppers & onions seem way behind to me but I have never had tomatoes get this big & not be turning red yet. I have some huge ones.
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/14 04:03 PM

I'm excited because I found two flowers that have bloomed on my tomato plant and I have 3 more that are still just buds but they should be opening soon. I just really need to finish digging up my garden area
Posted By: Nathan at Fork

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/14 05:50 PM

Weve got a ton of green tomatoes on our plants but haven't gotten a single ripe one yet. Hopefully soon.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/14 05:55 PM

Same here Nathan, I have gotten one actually, but when I picked it the bottom was rotten
Posted By: Frenzy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/14 07:47 PM

Just picked these. Had one ripe one earlier but the birds got it.

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/14 08:56 PM

I keep telling you guys to pick them before the birds get them. You don't lose a bit of flavor or texture.

I cut out some of the bad spots on my first tomatoes. I don't have to anymore. I'm now sharing a few as well as eating them three times a day.

I am making fresh garden salads most everyday. I use store bought iceberg, bell peppers, cucumbers, and tomatoes from my garden.

You've had to put up with me complaining about bitter cucumbers over the years. They're as sweet as I've ever had this year. I just put up a quart of hamburger, dill slices, with one jalapeo, and garlic.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/14 09:09 PM

Bill, why don't plant any lettuce?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/14 09:52 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
Bill, why don't plant any lettuce?


Bitter and cold weather plant in my area.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/14 10:09 PM

Will my onions continue to grow after the put a big seed head on? I've got some that are almost 3 foot from the dirt and have golf ball size seed heads on them
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/14 11:19 PM

Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/14 03:44 AM

So pull them? I only watched first minute I am at work. Thanks for the video though!!
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/14 03:54 AM

Originally Posted By: texaspride93
So pull them? I only watched first minute I am at work. Thanks for the video though!!


If they haven't had the seed head long, you can cut it off and it will grow a bit more. If it is already opening, go ahead and pull it. Either way, it wont usually be a big'n. I had 3 go to seed this year, pretty sure the late freeze made them cycle, that is usually what makes them do it (temp change).

I have had less than stellar results with onions in this new garden spot, not sure why. I figure it is because they get less maintenance since I always have other things to get done in the spot. Our old garden, they where easy as pie to grow.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/14 04:06 AM

Thanks man. A lot of people on this thread won't be helpful and you have helped me a lot. Truly appreciated.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/14 04:32 AM

Originally Posted By: texaspride93
Thanks man. A lot of people on this thread won't be helpful and you have helped me a lot. Truly appreciated.


No problem, many of the guys may be asleep or busy?. Gardening is a group effort when problems arise LOL. I have been helped on here as well for motivation seeing all the veggies guys are growing..
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/14 11:47 AM

I've found that the variety has a lot to do with onions going to seed. I don't remember a 1015y ever going to seed. White is a color, not a variety but I quit buying and growing white onions because as many as I/3 of them have gone to seed in the past.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/14 03:18 PM

Type of onion will also make a difference and many times, buying sets, you don't know what your getting some times.

In our area we need "Short day" varieties, then there is "long day" and neutral or intermediate. I only learned of the difference a few years ago. Next year I may just order mine from S Texas if I can remember the grower??

I agree with Bill as far as "color" goes. Only thing color tells me is what the best use of the onion may be. White I usually associate with cooking, yellows and purple are sweeter and great fresh IMO

May have come up in this "looong thread", but may want to Google "short day onions". Daylight lenght has allot to do with your onion production.
Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/14 04:42 PM

www.dixondalefarms.com will tell you everything you need on onions. Great people and company.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/14 05:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Red Bone 936
www.dixondalefarms.com will tell you everything you need on onions. Great people and company.


I believe that is the one, thanks!
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/14 05:47 PM

Checking the garden, making sure the weeds are growing good grin I found this little new grandchild LOL

Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/14 05:48 PM

damn western, looking good up
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/14 05:57 PM

Thanks East, found about 7 so far, several cantaloupes, Israel melons and the pumpkins are going crazy.


BTW some observations this year.

1. I have bought 20 or so soaker hoses, half from Lowes and the rest from TSC. So far 6 have developed ruptures. They are under mulch and out of direct sun. so I am done with them. I will look into the drip tape.

2. Also done with the black landscape fabric. Likewise half from Lowes and half from TSC, breaking down like TP! I will go back to strictly hay since I get good mass tilled into the dirt, no clean-up and will ave $100 and apply that to hay rolls.
Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/14 06:07 PM

Those melons look great. Last two years my cantaloupe Plants have looked great, but no fruit.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/14 06:12 PM

Western, next year I am going to go with 1/2" pvc with small holes for a drip system.

As far as fabric goes, mine does fine till late August when the heat is really baking it, then it crumbles if you step on it.

My soaker hoses from last year are still going fine.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/14 06:47 PM

I thought bout PVC as well.
Have a friend on another site, with a 30-40 acre "garden". This year he installed the drip tape and it is doing great. Another guy has about a 1 acre garden and he went to drip tape, runs every row off of one supply line. Turns it on in the evening and shuts it off the next morning.

I just cant see the value in the fabric, when I can use hay. I try to, since it's easy. Mine even has like a 10 year warranty? If I have to throw it away each year, I'll take the benefits of tilling in the hay mass. I was trying to avoid spending the $ on a small Mantis tiller, if I get the hay down in time I wont need one, but they sure are handy I hear.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/14 06:56 PM

I dont know how much drip tape is, but 1/2' PVC is cheap, and for the size garden I have it will be easy

how big is your garden
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/14 07:11 PM

I got no garden this year frown all I stuck in the dirt was onions and they did good.......pulled them yesterday and laid them in the shade of the fence.........something ate most of them last night frown


Was going to do everything in 5 gallon buckets but just kept putting it off.......drinking the grape instead. So I have that going for me.

I got rich sandy loam here too........man I am lazy
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/14 07:42 PM

Drip tape works well.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/14 07:43 PM

Looks like I lost my whole garden last night. We had a major storm develop and tornado sirens and hail at almost 2 in the morning. I haven't been able to inspect yet.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/14 07:56 PM

Originally Posted By: East
I dont know how much drip tape is, but 1/2' PVC is cheap, and for the size garden I have it will be easy

how big is your garden


Mine is only about 56'x115'
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/14 07:58 PM

Originally Posted By: texaspride93
Looks like I lost my whole garden last night. We had a major storm develop and tornado sirens and hail at almost 2 in the morning. I haven't been able to inspect yet.


That bites! Better to loose some veggies than your house and family. It may turn out fine since you haven't checked it yet.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/14 08:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: East
I dont know how much drip tape is, but 1/2' PVC is cheap, and for the size garden I have it will be easy

how big is your garden


Mine is only about 56'x115'


yea, mine is only about 25x25 so that much PVC for yours might be a little bit more lol
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/14 09:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: texaspride93
Looks like I lost my whole garden last night. We had a major storm develop and tornado sirens and hail at almost 2 in the morning. I haven't been able to inspect yet.


That bites! Better to loose some veggies than your house and family. It may turn out fine since you haven't checked it yet.


It actually did turn out ok. My spices and tomatoes are beat down but I think they are all gonna make it. Squash has some holes punched in the leaves but stems look heathy. I think it's all gonna make it.

Another round headed this way tonight. Already in tornado watch but have buckets and plywood ready for all plants.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/14 09:41 PM

Tomatoes probably will do even better.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/14 10:45 AM

Originally Posted By: Western
Tomatoes probably will do even better.


Looks more like a truck garden to me. Do you have a day job also?
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/14 02:24 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: Western
Tomatoes probably will do even better.


Looks more like a truck garden to me. Do you have a day job also?


Me? I work for myself and 90% at night, but been off a week.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/14 02:34 PM

In the beginning.

Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/14 02:49 PM

Nice tomatoes! Mom and her 3 kids up I should get my 1st any day.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/14 03:25 PM

I had a neighbor bring her two kids over and they picked stuff from my garden. They got green beans, pinto beans, tomatoes, lettuce, swiss chard, mustard greens and carrots. It was a hoot watching them.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/14 04:52 PM

I'm gonna have edible squash by Wednesday!!!!! So excited
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/14 05:18 PM

Picking corn today. 1st row gave up 3 -5 gallon buckets!

2nd photo was "quality control" and it PASSED up



Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/14 05:41 PM

Do you blanch your corn before you cut it off the cob?
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/14 05:42 PM

<<<-- Jealous
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/14 05:43 PM

Love me some corn on the cob.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/14 05:48 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
<<<-- Jealous


X2
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/14 05:57 PM

Looks great, Western. I wish I had enough room to grow corn. I cant wait until the Olathe sweet corn from Colorado hits the stores.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/14 06:00 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Do you blanch your corn before you cut it off the cob?


Yes Bill, we blanch for about 4 minutes (briskly boiling water), then fast dunk in ice water for 4 minutes.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/14 06:04 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
Looks great, Western. I wish I had enough room to grow corn. I cant wait until the Olathe sweet corn from Colorado hits the stores.


Skeeter, I lived in Olathe Co. LOL and believe me brother, I know what you mean. You haven't had it though, if you didn't get it from the field. Folks would be surprised how fast corn looses it's flavor if not used/blanched quickly.

BTW, The Olathe Sweet corn festival is allot of fun, one year we got to see Loverboy perform...from the roof of our house! LOL They are as good live as any tape/CD.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/14 11:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Do you blanch your corn before you cut it off the cob?


Yes Bill, we blanch for about 4 minutes (briskly boiling water), then fast dunk in ice water for 4 minutes.


I thought so by looking at your pictures. The reason I asked was that my mamma did them two different ways. She blanched them if she wanted whole kernel corn, but cut them off the cob raw, then scraped the cob with the back of her knife if she wanted cream style corn, and that my good gardening friends is the difference in whole kernel and cream style corn.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/09/14 01:45 AM

up
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/09/14 03:55 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Do you blanch your corn before you cut it off the cob?


Yes Bill, we blanch for about 4 minutes (briskly boiling water), then fast dunk in ice water for 4 minutes.


I thought so by looking at your pictures. The reason I asked was that my mamma did them two different ways. She blanched them if she wanted whole kernel corn, but cut them off the cob raw, then scraped the cob with the back of her knife if she wanted cream style corn, and that my good gardening friends is the difference in whole kernel and cream style corn.


That's is also how my granny did it too, so that is what we do anytime we cut it of the cob.
Posted By: mike a

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/09/14 04:11 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Do you blanch your corn before you cut it off the cob?


Yes Bill, we blanch for about 4 minutes (briskly boiling water), then fast dunk in ice water for 4 minutes.


I thought so by looking at your pictures. The reason I asked was that my mamma did them two different ways. She blanched them if she wanted whole kernel corn, but cut them off the cob raw, then scraped the cob with the back of her knife if she wanted cream style corn, and that my good gardening friends is the difference in whole kernel and cream style corn.


Thanks for posting this. I learned something new. I wish I had the room for corn. My garden is about 300 sq feet and its packed pretty tight.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/14 06:39 PM

Let my Neighbor lady pick in the garden, wish she would take more LOL, Got about 20 cucs, 30 squash, 5 gallons of corn and 5 of snap beans.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/14 11:12 PM

I have another onion question. After our heavy heavy rainfall and pea size hail, my onions have around 1/2 the crop laying down with little "bruise" marks from the hail I'm assuming. The other half that are still standing, includes most of the ones that went to seed. Are these beaten down from weather or have they fallen over to tell me they are done? I have pulled 3 this week and they average just slightly larger then golf balls. Thanks.


Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/14 11:31 PM

The white ones seem to be the ones that go to seed most. I quit buying them. I have another problem with what was supposed to be 1015y onions. Most of them made double onions this year. I can still use them but I do not get good rings. It starts with the onion sets.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/14 11:37 PM

So should I see if they perk back up or are they done?
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/14 12:38 AM

they are done
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/14 01:02 AM

Dang....
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/14 02:35 AM

If they fell over because of stormy weather, but stay green, they are still growing.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/14 03:24 AM

Think we are done with corn sheew!!. Just put up 3 more 5 gallon buckets and a laundry basket, took 3-1/2 hrs

Wasnt the quality I was hoping for (ear size wise, flavor is awesome), next year I'm pouring the hay mulch to it, grows much better without grass competition.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/14 04:05 AM

Originally Posted By: Western
If they fell over because of stormy weather, but stay green, they are still growing.


Thanks. I'm gonna watch them because they were all fine before the heavy rain fall and small hail. The rain was coming down so hard at one point when i was out and about it hurt..felt like I was being hailed on heavily. I'm hoping that was it but I'll keep a eye on them.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/14 04:28 AM

Originally Posted By: texaspride93
Originally Posted By: Western
If they fell over because of stormy weather, but stay green, they are still growing.


Thanks. I'm gonna watch them because they were all fine before the heavy rain fall and small hail. The rain was coming down so hard at one point when i was out and about it hurt..felt like I was being hailed on heavily. I'm hoping that was it but I'll keep a eye on them.


Wont hurt a thing, as long as they are partially above ground. They look healthy in a week GTG. You will know the difference. Watch for new, or newer leaf growth. each one is a "ring" LOL
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/14 09:57 PM

They seem to keep better in the ground than they do in the house for me.

I'm ready to start making salsa and marinara with my tomatoes. I think all my friends and neighbors have plenty of slicers. My middle crop is coming in fine. (Coming is country for getting ready to harvest).
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/14 11:14 PM

Bill, have a recipe for salsa? and is it canable(sp) up to 1 year?


Picked 10 gallons of them beans I forgot what they where LOL, been told they are Kentucky green beans??
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/14 11:20 PM

Kentucky Wonder green beans?

They are heirloom
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/14 11:41 PM

Try stir frying your blanched green beans and adding lemon or lemon pepper. Some people take fresh garden green beans and boil them until they taste like they came out of a can.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/14 02:57 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Kentucky Wonder green beans?

They are heirloom


Possibly, grow like crazy and huge beans!

Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/14 02:58 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Try stir frying your blanched green beans and adding lemon or lemon pepper. Some people take fresh garden green beans and boil them until they taste like they came out of a can.


I'll give it a try. We usually steam them, then go fresh or add light butter and sea salt.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/14 04:33 AM

Nice haul!
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/14 04:41 AM

I have 24 squash and zuccini on 4 hills about the size of my finger. I'm so excited.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/14 12:46 PM

Originally Posted By: texaspride93
I have 24 squash and zuccini on 4 hills about the size of my finger. I'm so excited.


Was that yesterday? If so, they are probably too big by now LOL Kidding of course, but seriously, you will have to pick every other day!!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/14 01:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: texaspride93
I have 24 squash and zuccini on 4 hills about the size of my finger. I'm so excited.


Was that yesterday? If so, they are probably too big by now LOL Kidding of course, but seriously, you will have to pick every other day!!

Sometimes you have some finger size un pollinated squash which will never mature.
Posted By: aeb

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/14 01:53 PM

Maybe can join the discussion this year. Living in the middle of a mesquite pasture, a green garden is a beacon for every grasshopper for miles around. This year, backyard chickens and ducks have been he death on hoppers and we have a small garden. Tomatoes, peppers and squash are looking good. Been a long time since I tasted a homegrown tomato. food
Posted By: BnT

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/14 08:59 PM



Little bit of mesclun, tomatoes, mint and two baby japs.



Little bit of spinach and blueberries.
Posted By: BuckRage

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/14 11:43 PM

wait.............soooooooooooo you grew that?
Posted By: BnT

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/14 12:32 AM

All except the feta, almonds, and strawberries.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/14 12:39 AM

Containers or garden?
Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/14 01:01 AM

My family has been getting weary of fresh tomatoes. My wife doesn't can and I don't have time so I picked a bunch of green ones today to fry. I love em! Whole fried green cherry tomatoes are even better!
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/14 01:22 AM

Never had fried cherry tomatoes? cook the same? I've had the regular slicers fried green, but taste like fried zucs and squash to me?
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/14 01:26 AM

We have eaten about five so far and I picked these this evening. A bird has gotten a couple so I am picking as soon as they start to turn from now on.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/14 01:32 AM

flehan CC
Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/14 02:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Western
Never had fried cherry tomatoes? cook the same? I've had the regular slicers fried green, but taste like fried zucs and squash to me?

Yea, we cook em the same. Slice them in half. Mix half flour, half cornmeal, salt and pepper. Dunk the tomatoes in egg/milk mixture and roll in the flour/ cornmeal. Fry till golden.
Posted By: BnT

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/14 02:54 AM

Containers
Posted By: BnT

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/14 02:55 AM

Except blueberries. Those are "wild".
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/14 06:26 PM

We finally got enough pickle cucs to give pickle making a try. The wife went to get the ingredients at the grocer and found a dill pickle "pre-mix". Gave a couple of jars away to see if they liked them and lived, folks said they where the best they ever has !!??

I tried some after they chilled and fellas they where darn good, very very crisp up

Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/14 06:32 PM

I'm waiting for squash to make pickles. I can't wait.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/14 07:43 PM

I've seen that pickle mix in the canning section. I was tempted but never tried it. Maybe next year. I put up 8 pints of salsa this morning. I'm getting tired of my garden.

I generally see stink bugs showing up about this time of the year, but none so far.

My 1015 onions really disgusted me this year. I'm usually the onion man on this forum. This year they turned out like oversized shallots in two to three sections.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/14 07:58 PM

Bill, I have been torching stink bugs, nymphs and eggs for 3 weeks. Keeping them somewhat under control though.

I guess pickling (dill) juice, isnt to complicate from scratch, but if a packeage can do the same thing without the fuss up I was somewhat "bias" and ended up surprised.
Posted By: BnT

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/14 08:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Bill, I have been torching stink bugs, nymphs and eggs for 3 weeks. Keeping them somewhat under control though.




Likewise
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/14 11:59 PM

Some pics from today...






Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/14 12:08 AM

Looks great phat
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/14 04:32 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Looks great phat


Sue does, soon you will be tomato rich!
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/14 04:41 AM

That's the plan. We'll have small, medium and large 'maters.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/14 05:06 AM

My tomatoe plants are about 3 1/2 foot tall and bushy and heathy looking as could be. They are in cages and I trimmed all sprouts 1 foot off the ground with alcohol and a razor blade..yellow flowers everywhere but zero fruit. Any opinions?
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/14 01:27 PM

Are they pollinating? I'd gently shake a few stems to maybe get some pollen to float around and land on other flowers.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/14 02:50 PM

What tomatoes did you plant? Also, you are probably a week or 2 behind. I am behind some of the further south guy's, I have allot of green tomatoes, but haven't picked one yet.

Might try what Phat said, but you should have enough "bugs" in there to pollinate (if you haven't put some kind of bug killer on them)
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/14 05:20 PM

No bug killer on them. I will try to gently shake them. I think they are called big reds.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/14 05:20 PM

Grandpa wants me to beat them down with a water hose.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/14 05:36 PM

Might want to mix 2 tablespoons of Epson salt in a gallon of water for each plant.

That storm that rolled through could have also slowed them down, they like warm and sun. To wet or dry will do the same thing as well. I'd go out and give them a good "shake" as mentioned earlier by Phat.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/14 05:55 PM

I've never done much to my tomato plants after putting them in the ground. Problems are usually too much shade or nitrogen.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/14 06:00 PM

and horn worms..
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/14 06:05 PM

I'm making my first batch of stuffed bell peppers tomorrow night. Cathy and I will have them a couple of nights then I will freeze what's left. I usually make 8 in one batch depending on the size of the peppers. I see one of my yellow peppers turning color.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/14 06:49 PM

No worms on them. I looked for hours across the whole garden. I'm gonna be patient right now, it's not staying hot all night and we haven't had a actual hot spell yet. My okra is still tiny so I'm gonna be patient and wait for the heat b
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/14 02:59 AM

Garden got grass despite my best effort. I guess I could pull it grin



Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/14 03:06 AM

CM, your garden looks like a manicured park compared to mine LOl I have grass 3' in some spots!!

Tomatoes look awesome though
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/14 12:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
CM, your garden looks like a manicured park compared to mine LOl I have grass 3' in some spots!!

Tomatoes look awesome though


Yep! I seldom see home grown slicer tomatoes ripen all the way to the stem like yours.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/14 03:36 PM

Looking good everyone

Few I picked yesterday, didn't mess with grape/cheery toms or peppers yet.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/14 04:27 PM



Grape tomatoes next to the Kentucky wonder green beans. They taste great.

Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/14 04:41 PM

I couldnt let my big tomoatoes ripen that much, the birds would have a feild day.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/14 04:43 PM

I can shoot off my porch into the garden
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/14 05:04 PM

So I'm having a bit of a problem with my upside down tomato plant. Every time I've gotten flowers on it they have either fallen off or wither after they bloom. Any idea of what may be causing this or what I'm doing wrong?
Posted By: BuckRage

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/14 05:33 PM

its upside down
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/14 05:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Humannpower
So I'm having a bit of a problem with my upside down tomato plant. Every time I've gotten flowers on it they have either fallen off or wither after they bloom. Any idea of what may be causing this or what I'm doing wrong?


Your lacking some form of nutrients. I battled that at first with my GH
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/14 05:50 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Originally Posted By: Humannpower
So I'm having a bit of a problem with my upside down tomato plant. Every time I've gotten flowers on it they have either fallen off or wither after they bloom. Any idea of what may be causing this or what I'm doing wrong?


Your lacking some form of nutrients. I battled that at first with my GH


Any idea what? I planted it with potting soil with a slow release fertilizer added that lasts for 2 months.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/14 05:55 PM

No idea on those things man
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/14 06:10 PM

Those are a gimmick, I've known several people that tried them and none of them got any tomatoes.

You would be better off planting in a five gallon bucket.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/14 06:12 PM

Originally Posted By: phat694
I couldnt let my big tomoatoes ripen that much, the birds would have a feild day.


Can I interest you in a Cheryl Crow?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/14 06:19 PM

Do you have extras?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/14 06:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Do you have extras?


Not the full sized ones.

I can ship you a head though grin Send me an address that fedex will deliver to.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/14 07:49 PM

Thanks but someone else pm'd me that had one.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/14 08:07 PM

I'll take it CM!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/14 09:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Chickenman
Originally Posted By: Payne
Do you have extras?


Not the full sized ones.

I can ship you a head though grin Send me an address that fedex will deliver to.


My hat goes off to all you guys on this forum who ship stuff to other members. I hate doing that.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/14 09:32 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
My hat goes off to all you guys on this forum who ship stuff to other members. I hate doing that.


I ship 800 on average a day.

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
I'll take it CM!


Send me your info. What I don't turn into jug lines get used in someones garden.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/14 09:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Chickenman
Originally Posted By: phat694
I couldnt let my big tomoatoes ripen that much, the birds would have a feild day.


Can I interest you in a Cheryl Crow?


LOL
Posted By: thecoach

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/14 10:33 PM

I'm having a problem with my tomatoes I guess, all my bushes are loaded and have been for some time but none of them are turning red. They aren't doing anything but just getting bigger. What's happening some have been picking size for a month or more?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/14 11:28 PM

Originally Posted By: thecoach
I'm having a problem with my tomatoes I guess, all my bushes are loaded and have been for some time but none of them are turning red. They aren't doing anything but just getting bigger. What's happening some have been picking size for a month or more?


It happens to all of us. CC was on here a couple of weeks age with some great pictures of fist size tomatoes which were not yet red. I wrote earlier that I would like to step away for a week. You're going to have great tomatoes. Look for a little blush on the bloom and pick the first ones. All shale come to he who waits.
Posted By: thecoach

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/14 11:30 PM

Just seems they are taking forever
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/14 04:22 AM

Garden update: my onions have bounced back from the storm and look better then every. I have jalapeos finally almost ready to pick. I am getting crazy banana peppers. I am fixing to pull my spinach and all my spices and dry them out. I have LOADS of baby squash but it's not growing, so tonight I picked about half of them to see if it will encourage new ones or put some size on the other ones. Also added more water. I have a bunch of baby cucumbers and one lonely cucumber almost ready to eat. My magical green beans are getting bushy and around 2 foot tall but no beans. Okra is still not growing.
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/14 04:44 AM

Update from Flower Mound: cilantro went to seed, tried cutting back and that didn't work, so will plant some more from seed. Cukes are doing great, already pulled four 8 inches. Jalapeos are coming in, get about 2-3 every third day and are blooming again. Bell peppers going well, just not a lot of fruit on the vine, maybe 6 total. Will pick next week. I have 3 tomato plants, one is doing great, loaded with fruit. One was a container plant I decided to put in the garden, great stems and leaves, but never flowered. The other one was a hybrid, don't recall which kind, but only half of it is producing. Snap peas went in late, so heat is starting to take toll, will pull what we can tomorrow. Potatoes recovered well (thanks Payne for telling me to leave them in ground). Not sure when to pull them yet. Spinach is done and pulled. And a mystery plant! Wife put shavings from the chicken coop into a raised bed, now we have 2 dozen plants, 3-4 feet tall that look exactly like corn, but they are not!? help on that one!
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/14 04:50 AM

I decided on my cilantro I was just gonna let it grow until it put good seed heads on and pull at once. I know the seeds are a different spice but I can't remember what it is called. Gonna freeze my full until I can some cucumbers and squash pickles.

Googled it: it's called coriander
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/14 06:27 PM

Originally Posted By: texaspride93
Garden update: my onions have bounced back from the storm and look better then every.


up Told ya LOL
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/14 12:55 AM



I got visitors....
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/14 01:10 AM

Aint he "purdy" grin
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/14 01:25 AM

Two off them ate 2 dill plants down to the ground almost overnight...

They are no longer with us!
Posted By: mike a

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/14 05:21 AM

I learned this the hard way. When watering a garden. NEVER WATER the foliage (leaves or fruit) When you water the foliage you disrupt the male and female pollen transfer. I learned this the hard way. For 2 years I would hand water my garden and the tomatoes, peppers and squash almost never set fruit. They had plenty of blooms but they would never set fruit. Plus with tomatoes it causes diseases to form.

Froze some squash. Blanched for 3 minutes and dunked them in ice water and then vacuum sealed and froze.


One of my first harvests of the year.



The garden likes the chicken poop in the garden, this the first full year to have it composted in the garden and it is working great. Chicken coup in the background.



My onion harvest of the year. This was grown in about 20 square feet of garden space. They were crowded for sure and seeded out pretty quickly.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/14 10:08 AM

Very nice Mike
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/14 01:40 PM

Ok guy's might need a little help. I have not gotten one Squash yet. My plants are big & have lots of blooms but no squash yet? WTF?? My tomatoes & peppers are doing great though. Biggest tomatoes I have ever grown.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/14 01:45 PM

You can take a Q-tip and try pollinating the flowers yourself
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/14 01:49 PM

And here is a pic of Skeeter 22's latest harvest.


Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/14 03:05 PM




Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/14 03:16 PM

Looking good

Time for some hot sauce
Posted By: Frenzy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/14 04:03 PM

Originally Posted By: mike a
I learned this the hard way. When watering a garden. NEVER WATER the foliage (leaves or fruit) When you water the foliage you disrupt the male and female pollen transfer. I learned this the hard way. For 2 years I would hand water my garden and the tomatoes, peppers and squash almost never set fruit. They had plenty of blooms but they would never set fruit. Plus with tomatoes it causes diseases to form.


Huh, didn't know that. My little garden gets hit with the sprinkler....I might have to find a new spot for it next year I guess.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/14 07:28 PM

Payne are those seranos far right
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/14 07:32 PM

I just froze 4 quarts of marinara in pint bags. I put 3 jalapenos in there. They added a little zip. I'm ready to start giving tomatoes away big time.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/14 08:37 PM



Is this bloom Rot? My squash isn't doing good.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/14 08:44 PM

Originally Posted By: texaspride93
Payne are those seranos far right


Left to right

bananna, jalapeno, serrano, cayenne
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/14 08:46 PM

Awesome. I thought those were seranos. Didn't see the other peppers further right first look
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/14 09:20 PM

Originally Posted By: texaspride93


Is this bloom Rot? My squash isn't doing good.


Looks like a couple of things, could be dry dirt, but more, to wet? Balancing act.

Also looks like damage from stink bugs or cuc beetles. Cuc beetle get in the flower and really do some weird stuff, then they lay eggs that scrw with the roots. (Google for a smarter definition of damage LOL)

I get a few like that all the time and just pull them so the energy can transfer to better squash, just make sure anything that you think is "diseased" is removed from your garden.

Edit, I was thinking (scary) and iirc, I saw that allot mre when I was using a sprinkler, or hand
watering the foliage as well. They need to stay dry.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/14 09:35 PM

They are watered by one drip head, and a spray head that sprays under the leaves at the base of plants.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/14 09:47 PM

That sounds good, any possibility the fruits are getting a daily soaking ? I have seen the cuc beetles in the flowers when the fruit is very small and generally that fruit does that very same thing. Bugs can also transfer disease as well. Cuc beetles are a major PITA.

Also that will happen when the flower doesn't get fertilized as well. Quite a few possibilities. I would go over them with a fine toothed comb to rule out any bugs issues.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/14 09:54 PM

I water everyday at 5:15 for 20 minutes.If it doesn't rain. Am I overwatering?
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/14 10:00 PM

Goggled this and they said it is due to low calcium (blossom end rot) I have had a few this year that looked like yours and I had a soil sample this year and I had high calcium.??

If you have a majority of them like that, then calcium may be the problem, but I'd bet it is fertilization or bugs.

http://www.onehundreddollarsamonth.com/how-to-prevent-zucchini-and-squash-blossom-end-rot/
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/14 10:27 PM

Thanks a bunch for the help!! Id say there are for sure more heathy ones then bad ones!!
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/14 12:07 AM

Originally Posted By: texaspride93
Thanks a bunch for the help!! Id say there are for sure more heathy ones then bad ones!!


Then I wouldnt worry about it, just pull them and discard as you find them and see how it goes. Like I said, I get 2-3 per plant like that every week, but the good one are so thick, I've ran out of folks to give them too!
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/14 01:41 AM

Just bought some ssevin dust
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/14 02:37 AM

Originally Posted By: texaspride93
Just bought some ssevin dust


That should help you, another is the natural variety of permethrin. The thing I have come to watch for, is increasing beneficial bugs, broad spectrum pesticides take them all out. I have a friend on another site that uses 7 dust frequently, for him it is about the availability of time he is able to devote to the garden, but remember you will have residual compounds in your soil.

I have Permethrin and 7 dust on hand though and will use it if I get backed into a corner. Knock on wood, so far Spinosad and constant monitoring and physical removal has been enough. Oh I did buy some beneficial's as well, but cant attest to their value good or bad since it's hard to gauge for me, they where released as a preventative so who knows...
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/14 08:52 PM

My garden looks like a grass farm!!, Been out of town working, come home and Da'um. I see mega hay mulch in the future for next year.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/14 09:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
My garden looks like a grass farm!!, Been out of town working, come home and Da'um. I see mega hay mulch in the future for next year.


I use our fescu(sp?) lawn clippings. Dad makes sure our yard is absolutely weedless and I haven't had any issues using it so far. I've heard grass isn't the best because it can cause fungus. But I haven't had any issues with anything other then those squash, and those are not mulched
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/14 10:08 PM

Originally Posted By: texaspride93
Originally Posted By: Western
My garden looks like a grass farm!!, Been out of town working, come home and Da'um. I see mega hay mulch in the future for next year.


I use our fescu(sp?) lawn clippings. Dad makes sure our yard is absolutely weedless and I haven't had any issues using it so far. I've heard grass isn't the best because it can cause fungus. But I haven't had any issues with anything other then those squash, and those are not mulched


Yes, "green" cut grass can do that, but dry hay does fairly well. If I didn't mulch the yard when I mow, I would pile the green cut grass in a pile to dry and decompose.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/14 04:34 AM



Bout time
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/14 04:44 AM

What a haul East!! Looks like most of a salsa blend right there up
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/14 04:52 AM

Those grape tomato plants are annoying. I only have 3 and there are 50 ripe ones each day.

The chickens are loving gardening season
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/14 05:16 AM

Looking great East. I am planting this Fall, will be my first Fall garden.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/14 10:11 AM

I didn't plant any of the cherrie tomatoes this year, always have more than folks will eat, easier to buy them for a buck in the tasteless grocery isle LOL

Thought about a small fall garden, IDK as yet. Maybe some greens and what not.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/14 12:27 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Those grape tomato plants are annoying. I only have 3 and there are 50 ripe ones each day.

The chickens are loving gardening season


I don't them. I like to pick one or two of anything to make a meal.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/14 03:38 PM

Originally Posted By: skinnerback
Looking great East. I am planting this Fall, will be my first Fall garden.


Me too, but not quite sure what I want to plant
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/14 07:07 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Originally Posted By: skinnerback
Looking great East. I am planting this Fall, will be my first Fall garden.


Me too, but not quite sure what I want to plant


Broccoli and cauliflower does great in the fall.
Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/14 08:50 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Those grape tomato plants are annoying. I only have 3 and there are 50 ripe ones each day.

The chickens are loving gardening season


I just have 1 cherry tomato plant, it has grown to monstrous proportions and we can't eat all of the fruit off of it.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/14 03:38 PM

I'm really enjoy these 4th of July tomatoes.


Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/14 03:49 PM

Da'um That's allot of "samiches"!!

I have only picked one so far!! i only planted celebrity after the others froze out early, have allot on the plants though.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/23/14 09:38 PM

First "dinner capable sized" harvest

Posted By: Tbar

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/23/14 10:59 PM

Sample........

Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/23/14 11:51 PM

Fire in the hole!
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/14 02:49 AM

Damn tbar

Green house?



Tonight
Posted By: Tbar

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/14 11:23 AM

Originally Posted By: East
Damn tbar

Green house?



Yes, but I don't get near the production you do.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/14 12:45 PM

What are the devil peppers on the bottom?
Posted By: 6mm284

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/14 04:14 PM

This is my first yr to have a garden, I always loved being in the garden with my grandparents and now at the age of 34 I decided it was time for my own.




Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/14 04:21 PM

Nice haul there, looks great.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/14 04:24 PM

Looks like everyone is having a great year. I'm covered up in Tomatoes & peppers, Onions did so so. Squash hasn't produced yet but hopefully the Q-tip trick will work.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/14 05:04 PM

Very nice, looks delicious
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/14 08:03 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Very nice, looks delicious


No kidding! East guess you and I didn't get our invitations, would have been a great meal after 18 holes!!
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/14 11:36 PM

2 day haul of maters.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/14 11:48 PM

Very nice CC, you planted celebrities right?
Posted By: janie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/14 12:04 AM

Wow. Looks fantastic y'all. Our garden last year, was a complete and total bust. We made so many mistakes. So far, it's been better. Enjoying cherry tomatoes. Squash is coming along as are the 10-15's. Even the jalapeno pepper's are looking good.

Carrot's................


Ain't gonna happen. We ran chicken wire around the perimeter, but Bugs Bunny still wiped it out.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/14 12:15 AM

That is a bunch of tomatoes!!
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/14 12:30 AM

I just had a tomatoe sammich from a slicer, I think it was a Rio Grande....Beefsteaks are doing well too
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/14 12:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Very nice CC, you planted celebrities right?


I bought 16 plants in 4 packs, I thought they were all celebrities but when I got done planting all of them & picked up the trash, I had one better boy tag, so four of the 16 are better boys, I just don't know which 4. LOL
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/14 01:05 AM

Yalls produce is looking great.

Lost about 20 due to a rat or mouse I assume. Cheryl Crow needs to get to work on that.

3rd harvest this week. Its going to slow down which is good because the figs are getting ready pick. Peppers aren't coming in worth a crap. They never have for some reason. Squash got planted late but its coming along.

Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/14 02:09 AM

I'm going to have to try those 4th of July toms. Look nice and big

So that was your head in your sig?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/14 02:24 AM

I think the 4th of Julys produce a 4-6oz fruit but all mine have been 4oz. Thats perfect for me really. Makes for great pico. Similar to a roma.

Yes sir it is. Its the only tattoo I have.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/14 12:43 PM

Nice haul Chickenman!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/14 06:15 PM



starting a riot...

Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/14 06:20 PM

Dang what a haul!
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/14 06:28 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Dang what a haul!


Da'um Payne, when are you starting the new Salsa factory? up
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/14 06:40 PM

Love me some salsa chef
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/14 06:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Love me some salsa chef


You sure have the fix'ns!!!
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/14 07:46 PM

Dang dude! That is a bunch of salsa right there!!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/14 08:20 PM

Thanks

Probably 35-40 pints. Got my first Yellow bell. Beans are burned up. Squash did bad for me this year.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/14 09:17 PM

We have had a good year so far. Lots of green beans and everything for that matter. My wife picked some this morning and sent me a pic. Just waiting on the melons at this point.




Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/14 09:18 PM

Nice harvest there Cobra.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/14 09:38 PM

Very nice
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/14 11:32 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Dang what a haul!


Yep. Those eggplants will carry you into the fall. I remember going to a Christmas dinner with a dozen or so eggplants to give away.

Hey Payne, I'll tell you what you can do. Make up a spicy marinara with those tomatoes and a couple of peppers, add a little tomato paste, and oregano, maybe some garlic powder. I promise you this is going to be good.

We're talking bite size pieces. Chop up an eggplant, a squash, a bell pepper, an onion, and a couple of boneless chicken breast. Stir fry till just before brown. Add the marinara and simmer for around 15 minutes. You can serve it over rice or pasta. You can zip it up a little more with around a quarter pound of links.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/14 08:18 PM

I could get used to this hired help



Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/14 09:51 PM

Tyler didn't like the onion cutting part



Logan was a trooper. He was laughing and crying the entire time



Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/14 10:43 PM

East Texas midget army is in full force.

Looks great, how much are you making?
Posted By: BuckRage

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/14 10:47 PM

Nice East. Practicing?
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/14 11:06 PM

Traditional recipe. Used 30 of the largest toms and followed guidelines.

Have about 40-50 med sized ones left to make a extra hot batch tomorrow

Yea they had fun but lost interest quick
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/14 11:09 PM

Start your own chain gang.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/14 11:54 PM

Now that's what I call expert delegation of resources up
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/14 12:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
East Texas midget army is in full force.

Looks great, how much are you making?


Those are both 5 quart pots. Looks like about 6 quarts to me. Maybe 7. You can count the pints and divide by 2, or just figure it by pints.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/14 12:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
East Texas midget army is in full force.

Looks great, how much are you making?


Those are both 5 quart pots. Looks like about 6 quarts to me. Maybe 7. You can count the pints and divide by 2, or just figure it by pints.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/14 12:53 PM

Bloody Mary's for breakfast Bill?
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/14 06:41 PM

Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/14 07:54 PM

Picked the 1st few Okra yesterday, went ahead and pickled them with a small batch of Pickle cucs.

Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/14 08:06 PM

I love pickled okra!
Posted By: Tbar

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/14 08:54 PM

Gave my SIL a few peppers to make some hot sauce. We will see what he comes up with.

Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/14 08:57 PM

Originally Posted By: texaspride93
I love pickled okra!


You and I both brudda, almost rather have them with a burger over chips or fries!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/14 09:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: texaspride93
I love pickled okra!


You and I both brudda, almost rather have them with a burger over chips or fries!


But I don't like picking it. A fishing guide had a big bucket full in a house he rented us at POC. I asked him for a couple of hands full. He told me how to get to his okra patch.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/30/14 01:09 AM



Posted By: Tbar

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/30/14 12:05 PM

Very nice........!!!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/30/14 01:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Tbar
Very nice........!!!



YEP! I'm about done with mine except for a few jars of chow-chow, and maybe another batch of stuffed peppers. My peppers are just turning colors. I may break them back and keep them for awhile.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/05/14 02:59 PM

Went to a buddies parents house last night for the fourth.

Thought I would share some pics of their garden, same spot for 15+ years. Lime and 10-10-10 each year.

The pictures really dont do it any justice at all, the % and size of production was insane

















Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/05/14 03:24 PM

Awesome garden! in the 1st photo, what is that growing on the right side?

I am at war with crabgrass this year, so it will be napalm time next spring.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/05/14 03:40 PM

Kale, they offered to take as much as I wanted but forgot to grab some

Never had it before
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/05/14 03:43 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Kale, they offered to take as much as I wanted but forgot to grab some

Never had it before


Ohhhh! I have never tried it either, that I know of , certainly never tried growing it, but they sure look great in the photo.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/05/14 06:33 PM

Freshly picked care package for grandparents

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/05/14 06:37 PM

Looks great, your egg container is suspect..
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/05/14 08:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Looks great, your egg container is suspect..


up and rofl
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/06/14 06:44 PM

Mine has all gone bye-bye except for a few bell peppers. I picked 8 perfect stuffers this morning. I'm making stuffed peppers tomorrow.
Posted By: Cool Mo D

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/07/14 12:09 AM

I have crab grass out the wazzzo. I'll not have a garden next year as I'm NOT going to have this mess. It's a shame. Any ideas on grass and weed control?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/07/14 12:12 AM

Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/07/14 04:50 AM

I used that "black stuff" this year and also have crab grass out the wazooo, everything else didnt grow through it though. I have never had crabgrass like this year

I will try to burn mine off this fall. I will also go back to heavy hay mulch. If that doesnt work, then a preamurgent will be used, I may have to skip a year, but thats OK.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/07/14 11:42 AM

I'm putting roundup on my garden today to keep the grass and it's seeds down. I keep my few rows clean with a hoe.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/07/14 03:14 PM




Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/07/14 05:02 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I'm putting roundup on my garden today to keep the grass and it's seeds down. I keep my few rows clean with a hoe.


A hoe, or hands ,are what I usually do as well, but this year working out of town, the timing has just been bad. I had put to much faith in the black fabric as well. Already planning to buy 2 big rnd roles of coastal for next year.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/14 12:20 AM

The fabric isn't an end all to weeds, you still have to work pulling them. It just takes less time.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/14 12:48 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I'm putting roundup on my garden today to keep the grass and it's seeds down. I keep my few rows clean with a hoe.


I would rather use black plastic than Roundup or any other chemical.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/14 03:05 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
The fabric isn't an end all to weeds, you still have to work pulling them. It just takes less time.


I learned the hard way, the fabric is pointless unless the soil is very tilled

Once it is, I have pulled less than 10 this year
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/14 03:46 AM

East, I over tilled mine this Spring since it is only a 2 year old spot. I tilled it 4 times in just feb and march!

I must have had crabgrass seed on my tiller, that is how I got stickers from tilling the neighbors place a few years ago. 4-6" hay mulch will get ride of most of it next year.
Posted By: 6mm284

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/14 11:52 AM

Question??

This is my first year of having my own garden. I have more green beans and purple hull peas than we can eat. I want to vacuum seal and save what we cannot eat. What's the process I take? Can I just clean them cut them up or dehull them then freeze? Do I have/need to blanch??
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/14 01:16 PM

Blanch and dip into an ice water bath.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/14 02:52 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Blanch and dip into an ice water bath.


X2
We found some green beans done like this in our freezer from June of 2012 last week, and they were still as fresh as the ones we put up last month. We do a 70-90 second blanch and then straight into the ice water.
Posted By: 6mm284

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/14 04:42 PM

Thanks!!
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/14 05:07 PM

We dont blanch ours anymore after talking to the wife's granny. So far they do come out crisper and taste fresh. This is only our second year doing it this way and it seems to have worked great. I just did a Google search and found this link, pretty much the way we do it, but we rinse and dry ours, then vacuum seal. We do the same with zucs and crookneck sliced and that has also worked well so far.

http://www.anoregoncottage.com/the-easy-way-to-freeze-green-beans-no-blanching/
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/10/14 03:15 AM

It has begun banana2

Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/10/14 05:37 AM

Right on C Man up I planted 2 last year, both died this Spring in that late frost. Nothing better than a dried fig.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/10/14 03:24 PM

Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/10/14 03:27 PM

Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/10/14 03:37 PM

Nice payne. I thought I was doing good to have made 21 jars of salsa. You make that look like nothing! Are y'alls tomato plants still looking good? I am shocked at how well mine still look. I have given away 40-50 tomatoes & made 21 jars of salsa (plus have eaten some) I counted last night & I have 90+ tomatoes on my plants that should ripen. Never had them still looking good this time of year, they are usually starting to burn out some by now.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/10/14 03:39 PM

Mine look like crap compared to yours, but still have some I am waiting to ripen
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/10/14 03:46 PM

Mine are burning up, I still have some green ones on the vine. Need to start planing the fall garden.
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/10/14 05:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Chickenman
It has begun banana2



Nice! I need to quit checking mine so often so they'll hurry up and ripen
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/10/14 05:10 PM

I've been too busy to get on here much lately but everyone's gardens look like they're doing good.

Payne that salsa looks delicious.


I'll post some pics when I get a chance
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/10/14 05:26 PM

Da'um Payne, what store are you selling all that in? LOL Thats is a labor of love right there, I love it when someone else does the labor up

Whats the "green" jars? been to Colorado have ya?
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/10/14 05:30 PM

looks like pepper jelly to me
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/10/14 05:42 PM

Jalapeno Jelly
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/10/14 05:49 PM

Thanks, never tried or even heard of it blush Probably because i don't eat real hot anyway.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/13/14 06:43 AM

Posted By: 6mm284

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/14/14 02:50 PM

Let's talk Fall garden???

This was my first yr to plant a garden and it did really well.

I think in going to try my hand at a fall garden.
I'm thinking potatoes, pumpkins (for the kiddo at Halloween), and onions.

What's some other things for a fall garden? Can I plant purple hull peas, tomatoes,peppers?
Posted By: Frenzy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/14/14 04:50 PM

Originally Posted By: 6mm284
Let's talk Fall garden???

This was my first yr to plant a garden and it did really well.

I think in going to try my hand at a fall garden.
I'm thinking potatoes, pumpkins (for the kiddo at Halloween), and onions.

What's some other things for a fall garden? Can I plant purple hull peas, tomatoes,peppers?

Now's the time to plant fall tomatoes. Could also do broccoli and cauliflower.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/14/14 07:35 PM

Originally Posted By: 6mm284
Let's talk Fall garden???

This was my first yr to plant a garden and it did really well.

I think in going to try my hand at a fall garden.
I'm thinking potatoes, pumpkins (for the kiddo at Halloween), and onions.

What's some other things for a fall garden? Can I plant purple hull peas, tomatoes,peppers?

I've never seen onions do well in a fall garden.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/14/14 10:19 PM

I usually plant

Cabbage, cauliflower, brussel sprouts, broccoli and something new
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/14/14 10:27 PM

I too want to try a fall garden, but never have done one

might try those, but Im out on the brussel sprouts
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/14/14 10:48 PM

I will be planting mustard greens, collard greens, carrots and lettuce. I have already planted more tomato plants and will be replanting purple hull peas this weekend.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/14/14 11:02 PM

Skeeter are you planting seeds or transplants?

Best of luck to you sir.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/17/14 12:45 AM

Seeds, except for the maters.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/17/14 06:06 AM

I have roughly 50-65 green tomatoes bigger then golf ball, smaller then baseball. They won't go red. When will they go red
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/17/14 12:00 PM

Originally Posted By: texaspride93
I have roughly 50-65 green tomatoes bigger then golf ball, smaller then baseball. They won't go red. When will they go red


It seems to take forever.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/17/14 07:55 PM

Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/17/14 09:05 PM

nice chickenman! I have eaten so many figs that I don't really care much for them any more. My parents had several large clumps of fig trees in our back yard that I got to help gather when they were ripe. Dad used to make strawberry preserves using figs and strawberry jello mix ... only way to tell it from the real thing was the size of the seeds. I have tried to start a root from their trees unsuccessfully a number of times and the few times I did get them to start, the dang deer clipped em off at ground level within 3 days.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/19/14 12:38 AM

OK fellas.......Wife calls from work, say's "one of her employees has some seeds, to I want them?" I said "sure" (lack of intell for sure) She gets home and....See photo below that is one trash bag full, plus we have 2 boxes, BUT WAIT, she is sending more!!!! WTH

Sorry for the crappy cell photo, i am a bit "overwhelmed" roflmao Apparently the girls mother works for a "Large retailer" who was throwing these out taking the tax break vs selling at a discount is all I can guess. Much will go in my food plot, but I am sure willing to share if the logistics can be worked out....geeez

Posted By: ksjmf

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/19/14 02:56 AM

I've got large tomato plants with lots of flowers but no tomatoes! Does anyone have any advise?
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/19/14 03:27 AM

Try hand pollinating, but heat will cause that too (with some types) and not much you can do then.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/20/14 04:11 PM

Originally Posted By: ksjmf
I've got large tomato plants with lots of flowers but no tomatoes! Does anyone have any advise?


Happens every year when 95+ degree days set in. I just trim mine back, keep them watered and wait for cooler weather so that they will set fruit again.
Posted By: BigPig

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/20/14 09:16 PM

Is it too late to plant a Jalapeo? I was thinking of a few plants in 5 gallon containers.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/22/14 09:44 PM

It has been a good year, but the heat is finally taking its toll on the tomatoes. Here are a few pics of this mornings harvest the wife sent me. Her and my son have been doing a good job since I have been away for work.







Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/22/14 11:03 PM

Looks good Cobra. Plant your broccoli and cauliflower seeds next week on up until September if you want to grow them from seeds. You can start with a 2 foot area with your seeds and grow enough for your whole neighborhood.
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/14 02:48 PM

Here's some pics of some of the toils of my labor this year

first harvest, early June


I finally mowed these down because I was tired of picking them, I've never had green beans last into July


Pintos


this was sometime in the middle of June
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/14 02:51 PM

Nice looking veggies. I have already plowed up about half of my crops as well.
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/14 02:52 PM

my wife said I had to quit using the island to ripen my tomatoes


This was my biggest picking, I had 7 bushels of tomatoes


Picked these 2 weeks ago, the squash plants have since burned up but the Zuccs are still going strong
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/14 02:54 PM

Originally Posted By: LonestarCobra
Nice looking veggies. I have already plowed up about half of my crops as well.


Thanks, yours look good as well.

I plowed up some more yesterday and for some crazy reason I'm seriously contemplating planting a fall garden
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/14 03:09 PM

Good looking crop BG. cheers
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/14 03:45 PM

Originally Posted By: skinnerback
Good looking crop BG. cheers


Thank you sir!
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/14 03:48 PM

picked these last Thursday


Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/14 03:49 PM

Figs are ready, I've picked 6 baskets like this so far
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/14 03:53 PM

finally getting some cantaloupes

here's the pickings over the last few weeks up to this morning




Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/14 04:01 PM

pepper crop isn't doing too bad



Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/14 04:05 PM

watermelons are starting to get ripe



one weighed 46lbs.
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/14 04:07 PM

picked these this morning

Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/14 05:14 PM

Blue do you sell your stuff at a farmers market or just keep a big stockpile?
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/14 10:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Humannpower
Blue do you sell your stuff at a farmers market or just keep a big stockpile?


What I was thinking and I grew up with big gardens LOL. Great harvest no matter though. Especially like the melons.
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/24/14 04:22 AM

Need pepper ID.

I planted thinking they were jalapeos...

Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/24/14 04:26 AM

Do you have cow horn peppers planted by your jalapenos?
Posted By: texaspride93

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/24/14 04:58 AM

I don't know what those are? I just have 4 jalapeos and 8 banana peppers, but there is a 6-8 inch gap in between plants
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/24/14 03:40 PM

Originally Posted By: texaspride93
Need pepper ID.

I planted thinking they were jalapeos...



Looks like Aneheim Chili's
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/24/14 07:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Humannpower
Blue do you sell your stuff at a farmers market or just keep a big stockpile?


I sell a lot of it at a farmers market, give a bunch to neighbors and keep a big stockpile
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/24/14 07:22 PM

Originally Posted By: skinnerback
Do you have cow horn peppers planted by your jalapenos?


cowhorns was my first thought as well.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/24/14 07:32 PM

You don't always get the plants that you think you are buying especially with peppers.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/24/14 09:32 PM

Nice harvest Goose
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/25/14 07:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Bluegoose
Originally Posted By: Humannpower
Blue do you sell your stuff at a farmers market or just keep a big stockpile?


I sell a lot of it at a farmers market, give a bunch to neighbors and keep a big stockpile


What farmers market do you sell at?
Posted By: Bluegoose

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/25/14 08:36 PM

One in Tyler
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/26/14 04:56 PM

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/26/14 04:57 PM

Looks good, Rhode Island Reds?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/28/14 01:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Looks good, Rhode Island Reds?


Yes sir. 4 of the hens anyway. They lay great.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/28/14 02:31 PM

Yeah they do, five eggs a week per hen for me.

I'm done with spring gardening.







Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/15/14 12:58 AM

Y'all still getting tomatoes? I am still getting quite a few. I have never had maters this late in the year.

Peppers too.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/15/14 02:32 AM

I'm still getting maters but not near as many as earlier. The peppers are doing really well too. Just made a bunch of jalapeno peach preserves, salsa and canned jalapenos.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/15/14 10:29 AM

I'm still getting crabgrass up grin
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/16/14 10:47 PM

Almost finished the fall garden today. Planted green beans, purple hulls, pintos, carrots, mustard greens and collared greens. Still getting maters, peppers and okra.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/19/14 05:51 PM

my maters are still putting on lots of blooms, but not transferring into maters ... I trimmed them back a little and keep feeding/watering them ... once the temps start dropping back down, they should start producing again, mid Sept?
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/19/14 08:36 PM

I made another 8 jars of salsa Sunday, brings my total to 38 jars. Best year I have had. I bet I have given away easily 200 tomatoes, probably alot more than that. And all of them are nice size too. I hope i can keep them alive through fall and make some more salsa.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/07/14 11:31 AM

I planted some mustards and turnip seeds yesterday morning and only raked them in. Got a hard rain in the afternoon. They should be sprouting on a few days.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/07/14 01:21 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I planted some mustards and turnip seeds yesterday morning and only raked them in. Got a hard rain in the afternoon. They should be sprouting on a few days.



I love mustard greens. I planted mine a few weeks ago. I like to use them in place of lettuce on sandwiches and burgers. They taste almost like horseradish to me.
Posted By: cmc

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/29/14 10:21 PM

I got a couple jalapeos been putting out nice green jalapeos all year, I went hunting this weekend and came back to one big red jalapeo. It is next to a Thai dragon pepper plant which is red, any chance these two crossed? The pepper is the size and shape of a jalapeo but bright red.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/29/14 11:11 PM

Originally Posted By: cmc
I got a couple jalapeos been putting out nice green jalapeos all year, I went hunting this weekend and came back to one big red jalapeo. It is next to a Thai dragon pepper plant which is red, any chance these two crossed? The pepper is the size and shape of a jalapeo but bright red.


Jalapenos turn red when they are ripe, they are my favorite.
Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/29/14 11:12 PM

No sir u just have a ripe jalapeo if u plant the seeds from the jalapeo next year u will have a (whatever) jalapeo. The two pepper plants next to each other will cross, but u won't see it until next year if u plant the seeds from the (whatever) or the jalapeo.
Posted By: cmc

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/30/14 12:26 AM

That's weird its small compared to the others that didn't turn red.
Posted By: texretvet

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/15 02:57 AM

When is everyone putting there onions and potatoes in the ground?
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/15 03:37 AM

I have volunteer onions and had potatoes up until the frost 4 days ago. Onions still look ok, but probably no good. Potatoes will be good though. I missed a whole darn row!
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/15 03:38 AM

BTW, for the last 3 weeks, my fruit trees have been putting out leaves eeks333 I need more "chill" hours!!
Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/15 03:44 AM

Last of the garden, tonight's freeze should finish off what's left.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/17/15 06:30 PM

I'd like to get some onion sets in the ground by Wednesday for the rain that's supposed to be coming our way. The ground was still a little wet when I went out to pick some cilantro this morning. Have any of you seen any onion sets in the stores?
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/17/15 06:50 PM

Bill, I looked last weekend but didn't find any. Gonna try again tymorrow.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/17/15 07:31 PM

I'm about 10 miles from Home Depot. I'll look there next week. This week has been our first sunny week in over a month.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/17/15 09:09 PM

I found some today at my local nursery.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/17/15 10:27 PM

Our local feed store has them in. I am planting them next week. I plowed the garden today, and the soil was a little wet. It should till nicely next week.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/15 12:01 PM

I will have to start looking for onion sets, ones I left in the ground from last spring are up 5-50". Also have to fertilize the fruit trees.

Also want to get a Asparagus bed made and get those started.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/15 09:08 PM

T bar T feed in Kaufman has some.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/15 11:21 PM

Planted mine today.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/19/15 02:39 PM

while I was out hunting this past weekend, my wife texted me that one of our peach trees is starting to bud and bloom??? I haven't trimmed it yet ... should I leave it alone or go ahead and trim????
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/19/15 03:20 PM

Originally Posted By: PMK
while I was out hunting this past weekend, my wife texted me that one of our peach trees is starting to bud and bloom??? I haven't trimmed it yet ... should I leave it alone or go ahead and trim????


I trimmed my Peaches, pears and Apples around the 1st, all had a few new leaves. Been a tad warm, so hoping I get enough freeze time.

Your trees are still pretty much dormant, so I'd get the trimming and fertilizer done pretty soon.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/19/15 06:39 PM

this one has leaves and open blooms, a LOT? This is the little tree we planted in Nov. 2012 and it was covered up with peaches spring/summer 2013 (only in the ground 6 months). It was fully bloomed and putting on fruit by mid Feb. last year and those several late ice storms/heavy frost wiped the fruit clean (even with my attempts to save them by covering with garden cloth & a dozen shop drop lights) ... but the one I yanked out with my front end loader that hadn't produced in 5 years (I was going to use for BBQ wood, wife felt sorry for it and had me replant outside yard fence, deer really appreciated that) was covered up las t year, guessing it had a much longer freeze time and last year was the first year it was cold enough for it to produce.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/19/15 07:19 PM

yeah, I remember you having to "save" it LOL. One of my peaches had a few flowers, but not very many. Has been an odd year.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/19/15 08:08 PM

so you think I should go ahead and prune it back??? even with it covered with leaves & open blooms?
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/20/15 12:59 AM

I would, we will still see frost/freeze and you sure wont get any production from those flowers. Did mine and they look fine.

BTW, the last cold front we went through, turned most of my leaves redish, except on the apples. I still trimmed them since they are still semi dormant. I also only did a light pruning since my trees are only 3-4 years old, mainly to remove interior branches this go around.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/20/15 02:38 PM

ok, I will make plans on trimming this weekend. Thanks!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/22/15 04:19 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
Planted mine today.


I found them at Home Depot yesterday and got them planted. I got a bunch of reds and a bunch of1015Y. Bt hey cut the numbers of a bunch done by about 10 sets. I wonder if it was chance or intentional.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/22/15 04:58 PM

Was just at Lowes Monday to look at their electric cement mixer, we drove back home and totally forgot to see if they had sets yet bang That's OK, the feed store and a little plant stand in Springtown usually have healthier looking ones anyhoo.

Will be a week before I can get in the garden now after this rain, but I'll take the trade. My onions froze 2-3 times last year and 3/4's got fooled into flowering.
Posted By: larrywoodson

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/23/15 08:03 PM

Does anybody know where to get good soil for a raised bed I'm building?
Posted By: Drop 1

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/27/15 09:23 PM

Well I am getting the bug to start our first vegtable garden this year at our new home and since our re modle of the entire house, I since put the washer and dryer in the garage to open up room in the kitchen. Having said this I have a grey water line coming off the side of the house running a few different directions in line of landscaping but was curious to know if I could use this grey water line to water the vegetable garden when the wife does the laundry (2x per week x 2 kids + my dirty work clothes)? In theory the water line keeps the yard very green where it is placed ( nitrogen in the soap plus winter rye) . So, will the soap make the vegtables soapy tasting, or make me some big ole maters and taters?
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/27/15 09:28 PM

roflmao You're gonna be eating those vegetables, no way I would do it.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/27/15 09:54 PM

Originally Posted By: skinnerback
roflmao You're gonna be eating those vegetables, no way I would do it.

agree ...
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/27/15 09:55 PM

larrywoodson, pretty much any landscaping place will have garden soil or a garden blend. That's what I used for our raised beds.
Posted By: Navasot

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/27/15 10:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
cheers
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/27/15 10:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
I will have to start looking for onion sets, ones I left in the ground from last spring are up 5-50". Also have to fertilize the fruit trees.

Also want to get a Asparagus bed made and get those started.

had to do some searching ... we are wanting to get an asparagus bed started too. We are in solid rock, so everything has to be elevated and I have one of the oval water trough (5-6 feet long, 2 feet wide, ~2 feet tall) that I plan on partially filling with water bottles to take up some room in the bottom, then fill with a garden blend & sand to where I have ~16 inches of soil. Should work like a charm. I was told by the local nursery that if I get established crowns that are 1-2 year old, they will produce sooner than from seeds.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/15 12:23 AM

Originally Posted By: PMK
Originally Posted By: Western
I will have to start looking for onion sets, ones I left in the ground from last spring are up 5-50". Also have to fertilize the fruit trees.

Also want to get a Asparagus bed made and get those started.

had to do some searching ... we are wanting to get an asparagus bed started too. We are in solid rock, so everything has to be elevated and I have one of the oval water trough (5-6 feet long, 2 feet wide, ~2 feet tall) that I plan on partially filling with water bottles to take up some room in the bottom, then fill with a garden blend & sand to where I have ~16 inches of soil. Should work like a charm. I was told by the local nursery that if I get established crowns that are 1-2 year old, they will produce sooner than from seeds.


I didn't know there was a seed? All I have ever seen are crowns.
That trough ought to give you enoug for a couple folks, plus extra!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/15 12:43 AM

Asparagus does not do well in my area. Several of us tried it. It never got bigger than a pencil.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/15 02:22 PM

I had no clue but talked with the nursery and that's what they told me. They had various sizes/ages of crowns for planting. We want to give it a try.

I had a neighbor when we lived east of Gtown that had an established asparagus bed and every late summer they would go on 8-10 week vacation, leaving me to reap whatever I wanted. I love fresh asparagus! Funny thing is we lived there about 18 years and only had a garden a couple of times ourself, usually got taken over by weeds but we had great soil, now we live west where it's solid rock and have a elevated garden ...

Bill, there are several varieties of asparagus, some small, some large, various colors even. Do you know what kind you tried?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/15 03:26 PM

I have asparagus, it took three years for them to get established. Now if you don't harvest everyday they will get away from you. I planted Jersey Knight.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/15 05:08 PM

How big of beds have y'all made for your Asparagus? The bed we had at the ranch was 2' wide x 25' long and 8" deep. iirc, it worked good, but going to do a new one, so just curious. We want enough to can and/or freeze.

I always let the late ones head out, helps the plant get what energy it needs for the next year. I cut the dried growth out usually around Jan- Feb.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/15 06:23 PM

my neighbors was about 2 foot wide by 20 feet long but he had tillable soil. The one we will be doing is only about 5-6 feet long by about 2-2.5 feet wide in an oval metal stock water tank.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/29/15 02:48 PM

Originally Posted By: PMK
my neighbors was about 2 foot wide by 20 feet long but he had tillable soil. The one we will be doing is only about 5-6 feet long by about 2-2.5 feet wide in an oval metal stock water tank.



Make sure you put some drainage holes in that trough
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/29/15 05:14 PM

yep, going to leave the drain plug open and put about 9-12 inches of plastic water/coke/DP bottles in the bottom to take up some space, garden blend soil on top about 16 inches deep.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/15 07:45 PM

I had a nice morning hunt, lunch at Vincent's Smokehouse in East Bernard, then picked up some seed potatoes at the feed store. I got a dozen each of red, and with potatoes. I don't cut them to plant them. I'll probably mud them in sometime this week.
Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/15 12:47 AM

It started raining just as we got the last onions in! Good start.
Posted By: Savage388

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/03/15 03:35 AM

My wife has 600 onions in the ground. She didn't realize how many come in a bundle so she bought 10 bundles. bang

Anyway. She wants some sweet potatoes. When do they go in the ground and do they come as "seed potatoes" like reds do?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/15 06:18 PM

Started some seeds today. 8-10 seeds per pot. Tomatoes, peppers & eggplant.


Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/15 06:50 PM

and it begins

I already have tomatoes the size of golf balls peep
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/15 08:07 PM

Originally Posted By: East
and it begins

I already have tomatoes the size of golf balls peep


rolleyes
Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/05/15 01:16 AM

Originally Posted By: Savage388
My wife has 600 onions in the ground. She didn't realize how many come in a bundle so she bought 10 bundles. bang

Anyway. She wants some sweet potatoes. When do they go in the ground and do they come as "seed potatoes" like reds do?


Sweet potatoes are planted as slips. You can start your own or order them.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/05/15 01:32 AM

Originally Posted By: East
and it begins

I already have tomatoes the size of golf balls peep


Hey Matt, what's up with your greenhouse these days?
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/05/15 01:54 AM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
Originally Posted By: East
and it begins

I already have tomatoes the size of golf balls peep


Hey Matt, what's up with your greenhouse these days?


he probably ate the fish by now eeks333 .....
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/05/15 01:57 AM

Going alright, need some new pepper plants. Kinda fizzled out from last year. Will post some pics in other thread this weekend

Fish still arent big enough bang
Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/05/15 04:25 AM

Payne, what's with that thermometer? eek2 Planting by the signs? grin
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/05/15 11:00 AM

yeah I saw that, might be demon seeds..
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/05/15 01:58 PM

Payne, your post "inspired" me to start some indoors, mentioned it to the boss lady....Got the "why, when you can buy them already for a couple bucks" bang
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/05/15 02:33 PM

I buy mine because I like to put them in the ground early. It's like losing your baby if you plant your own seed. I don't worry about frost as much with the store bought plants. I plan to put some in the ground as soon as I get a 10 day frost free forecast.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/15 03:10 PM

Posted By: sig226fan (Rguns.com)

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/15 03:16 PM

My garden is going to be awful this year, with the leg hurt I won't be doing much until april at the earliest. I'll live vicariously thru the THF Gardening thread
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/15 05:42 PM

Originally Posted By: sig226fan (Rguns.com)
My garden is going to be awful this year, with the leg hurt I won't be doing much until april at the earliest. I'll live vicariously thru the THF Gardening thread


Your not the only one, but not because I'm hurt. Going to pour the hell out of pre-emergent this year for crabgrass, hate that stuff!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/15 06:22 PM

I picked up two six packs of tomato plants this morning. I plan to put them in after this next cold front.
Posted By: HMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/15 02:07 AM

Originally Posted By: Savage388
My wife has 600 onions in the ground. She didn't realize how many come in a bundle so she bought 10 bundles. bang

Anyway. She wants some sweet potatoes. When do they go in the ground and do they come as "seed potatoes" like reds do?


Sweet Potatoes are planted in May. You plant "Slips" you can start your own. Take some sweet potatoes, put tooth picks around them and put in a glass of water. They will grow vines (slips)

I'll get you a picture to help. I'm poor at explaining
Posted By: HMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/15 02:13 AM

ok here yA go. Hope this helps.

Posted By: HMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/15 03:24 AM

How's yalls tomatoes and Peppers coming along ?










Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/15 04:04 AM

Nice work HMK
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/15 01:51 PM

very nice
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/15 02:04 PM

When did you start your seeds?
Posted By: HMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/15 02:22 PM

I usually start mine the week after Christmas. I start them in the jiffy pellets and when they get the first set of leaves, I transfer them into the cups. I used to have them sitting all over the house, but wife didn't care much for that, so she suggested a nice shelving unit. I keep regular old shop lights about 2 inches away from them. I will start hardening them off in the coming weeks.


As you can tell by the names, I grow uncommon varieties. some are family heirlooms. not my family, I trade with people all over the US.
Posted By: Tres

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/12/15 03:14 PM

That's a great setup HMK.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/12/15 03:27 PM

Looking great! You fellas are sure getting a nice head start.


I notice fruit trees are starting to bud again, but this time, they all show signs of life. Will have to replace a Fuji apple though, top is dead bang
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/12/15 04:07 PM

Western, that apple portion you cut will make for some great BBQ wood.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/12/15 04:19 PM

Originally Posted By: PMK
Western, that apple portion you cut will make for some great BBQ wood.

Wouldn't be enough for one hamburger LOL 2 year old I bought last year.
Posted By: HMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/12/15 04:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: PMK
Western, that apple portion you cut will make for some great BBQ wood.

Wouldn't be enough for one hamburger LOL 2 year old I bought last year.


whittle it into a fishing lure. I pick up pecan twigs and make lures out of them. I've been picking up sticks and whittling since I was a kid. It's just something I do. I'm not good at it either. Believe me, if I can do it, you sure can.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/12/15 05:13 PM

Originally Posted By: HMK
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: PMK
Western, that apple portion you cut will make for some great BBQ wood.

Wouldn't be enough for one hamburger LOL 2 year old I bought last year.


whittle it into a fishing lure. I pick up pecan twigs and make lures out of them. I've been picking up sticks and whittling since I was a kid. It's just something I do. I'm not good at it either. Believe me, if I can do it, you sure can.


HMK, when I was a kid, we used to whittle out airplanes and boats ( I liked the cessna styles) up . This tree is maybe 1" diameter x about 14" of usable wood. Your welcome to it if you want an apple lure LOL
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/15 02:35 PM

We are moving our garden closer to the house and I have a question. We have an aerobic septic system and about how far do I need to keep my garden away from my sprinkler head spray line? Any rain water will drain away from the garden. Right now we are about 10 yards from the spray line to the edge of the new patch. Thanks.
Posted By: Cast

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/15 03:09 PM

I wouldn't worry about your aerobic sprinklers. It's clean chlorinated water. I know it's not yet rated for irrigation but if it don't stink it's good enough to water plants. I would not advise eating maters right out of the garden without rinsing off first though. I love walking in a mater patch with a salt shaker...
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/15 03:50 PM

Thanks Cast, I plan on my corn being on that side and the water won't reach the garden. You are so very right, there is not much better than a fresh picked tomato eaten while in the patch.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/15 07:06 PM

You guys are way ahead of me.

Scraped, raked, and sprayed today. Onions planted. I'll till next week if I do at all.

Sheryl Crow gets her spring outfit in a few weeks.

Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/16/15 08:42 PM

Quite strong HMK up
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/17/15 04:08 PM

My tomatoes are ready to go into the ground, but I saw a little snow this morning. I plan to put them in Thursday if I get a good 10 day forecasrt.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/17/15 04:25 PM

If it doesn't rain all weekend, I might get mine tilled and covered with fabric. Will be a few more weeks before I'm planting anything (except onions) I only grow Tomatoes, onions, peppers and squash. Might expand next year since I scored a killer almost new tiller from a buddy of mine. Thinking about keeping what I use now, just for growing tomatoes and then start a bigger garden in another spot for taters, carrots, beans, squash, peppers, etc. Whatever I do, I will have to put a fence, I am running 2-3 rabbits off every morning when I leave for work right now. I've never had a "good" tiller, got one now and I plan to use that sucker over the years.
Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/15 01:12 AM

My tomatoes are lookin a little ragged but still alive from last year. I think I'm gonna leave a couple alive and see if they will produce a second year.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/21/15 04:48 PM

I'm still waiting. We have another forecast for a freeze next week.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/15 12:57 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I'm still waiting. We have another forecast for a freeze next week.


Yes sir, glad I have waited. Had everything freeze twice last spring.
Posted By: Palehorse

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/15 11:40 PM

I've got a bunch of blooms on my old tomato plants. It's not supposed to freeze down here but it is going to get wet and cold. We will see if they drop the blooms or not.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/15 09:00 PM

Glad I don't have anything in the ground roflmao
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/15 09:41 PM

Mine are in a flat inside of my house. Would you put the flat out during the daytime?
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/15 09:46 PM

Not today!! I know a few that have onions in, they will get set back more than likely. Warm cold, warm cold, will make them seed too eeks333
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/24/15 05:31 PM

we got the old water trough moved into the yard, holes drilled in the bottom for drainage, put in some medium sized rocks to help drainage blockage of holes, filled with premium blend garden soil ... waiting on this last few cold snaps to get our asparagus bed started. Bought a batch of mature 2-3 year old crown starters, have them damp inside where it's warm.

Also added about 4 inches of the same soil blend on top of our small above ground garden and got it all tilled (spade fork) together ... will be ready for planting in the near future.
Posted By: Tres

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/15 04:23 AM

I'm thinking about planting this weekend, at least in the raised beds that I can cover easy in case of a frost. I can't wait for a good tomato, seems like it's been forever.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/15 01:40 PM

Mine are going into the ground Saturday afternoon. I only have 12. I can cover them or pull them up if I get a frost warning.
Posted By: NewGulf

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/15 08:48 PM

Originally Posted By: PMK
we got the old water trough moved into the yard, holes drilled in the bottom for drainage, put in some medium sized rocks to help drainage blockage of holes, filled with premium blend garden soil ... waiting on this last few cold snaps to get our asparagus bed started. Bought a batch of mature 2-3 year old crown starters, have them damp inside where it's warm.

Also added about 4 inches of the same soil blend on top of our small above ground garden and got it all tilled (spade fork) together ... will be ready for planting in the near future.
worthless
Posted By: HMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/15 09:32 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Mine are in a flat inside of my house. Would you put the flat out during the daytime?


Bill, are you talking about tomatoes? If so, yes I put mine out during the once they get about 4 inches high. To make their stems strong, I keep an oscillating fan on them in the house. I spray mine with diluted fish emulsion once a week. Do this outside! cause it stinks to high heaven. I do this on a day when they can stay outdoors all day. It will make your mater plants grow up good and strong
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/15 10:25 PM

O.K. I have a question, I have been keeping my pigeon poo from the pigeon coop for a little over a year now, just have it in a pile with a back stop on two sides (just an inside corner of two fence panels with a 2x8 across the front) I did dump in 2 bags of miracle grow garden soil last year but other than that, it is pigeon poo and pine needles. I haven't ever even tried to mix it in any way, it just gets more piled on top. I probably have 3-4 wheelbarrows of it. Should be good to go? or not? My garden is only 8' x 16' this will cover all of it easily.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/15 10:28 PM

You should have no problem as far as the P Pooh, but those pine needles will raise the acid in your soil for sure. If you need it then......
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/15 10:38 PM

No it won't, the pine needles have low acidity when they're green and are good for your garden after they age.

I'd get a garden fork and mix your pile up then spread it around the garden then till it in with your new tiller.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/15 10:50 PM

Payne is right, acidic when green, but it dissipates quick.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/15 12:15 AM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
O.K. I have a question, I have been keeping my pigeon poo from the pigeon coop for a little over a year now, just have it in a pile with a back stop on two sides (just an inside corner of two fence panels with a 2x8 across the front) I did dump in 2 bags of miracle grow garden soil last year but other than that, it is pigeon poo and pine needles. I haven't ever even tried to mix it in any way, it just gets more piled on top. I probably have 3-4 wheelbarrows of it. Should be good to go? or not? My garden is only 8' x 16' this will cover all of it easily.


This reminds me of something that I pulled on my neighbor several years ago. We went to pick up some pen raised quail and I commented on the build up of droppings. I went on to say the droppings would d great in my garden.. I was in the feed store a couple of weeks later and they had some of those tomatoes that had golf ball size of tomatoes on them. I bought two and put them in my garden. My neighbor stopped by and commented. I told him that the only thing I did different was to put some of the quail droppings in there.
Posted By: Tres

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/15 05:27 AM

Too funny Bill. Wife and I got six chickens last September. Been working on fertilizer since we got them, and looking forward to the results.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/15 02:13 PM

I'm gonna stop on my way home and get me a garden fork. It will be a couple of weeks before the garden is dry enough to till. (not complaining, the lake needs the rain)
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/15 02:15 PM

sounds like a plan, I'd mix it a few times. Good Luck with the lake level also
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/15 04:39 PM

Should I do a soil test before or after? Or not even mess with it? I just don't want to mess up what I have, been getting some good maters for a few years now.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/15 05:25 PM

Soil test is always good if it has been awhile. Good to know what is actually in your soil, so you can make optimum adjustments. I usually will do one every other year or 2. Not the end of the world though if you don't .
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/15 05:51 PM

I would do it now. I like to send the soil test to A&M. They are pretty fast in returning the results.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/15 05:53 PM

I've always just bought the $5 one from Lowes. How much does it cost to send it to A & M?
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/15 05:55 PM

Less than $20

Go Here: http://soiltesting.tamu.edu/

Has everything you need including downloadable forms and instructions. Usually i have mine back in 10-14 days.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/15 05:55 PM

10$ is the cheapest. I do the micro one for 17$. It's much better than the Lowes test.


http://soiltesting.tamu.edu/files/soilwebform.pdf
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/15 05:56 PM

If you put your email addy on the form it will be sent to you as soon as it is done then you'll get a paper copy in the mail a few days later.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/15 06:01 PM

Thanks fellers!
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/15 12:37 AM

http://s1260.photobucket.com/user/pmkkdx...if.jpg.html?o=9 drilled multiple holes for good drainage ... placed medium sized flat rocks in the bottom to cover the drilled holes to prevent soil draining out or clogging up holes, filled with good composted soil ... forgot to take pictue with empty trough with rocks in place bang
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/15 10:28 AM

Looks great PMK! up Will be unique. Give ya $5 for that Rigid too grin Handy tool.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/15 03:10 PM

here is a look at the trough filled with dirt and a few of the rocks like I put around in the bottom for drainage.

Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/15 03:34 PM

and some of ya'll might remember my little peach tree from the spring of 2013 that we planted in Nov. 2012 that put on so many peaches after only being in the ground for 7-9 months??? Well, it started putting on blooms back in mid/late Jan. and has already started putting on little peaches the size of pinto beans.
late Jan:

end of Feb:


with these latest little cold snaps, we covered with garden cloth and put halogen shop lights under to keep it warm during the really cold times. hope it holds its peaches this time.



the other one I yanked out with my frontend loader, it is just starting to put on little buds
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/15 12:14 AM

Another freeze coming tomorrow night. That's it. My tomatoes go into the groins Sunday afternoon.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/15 12:43 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Another freeze coming tomorrow night. That's it. My tomatoes go into the groins Sunday afternoon.


eeks333 I hope they're cherry tomatoes.....
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/15 02:57 PM

Originally Posted By: skinnerback
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Another freeze coming tomorrow night. That's it. My tomatoes go into the groins Sunday afternoon.


eeks333 I hope they're cherry tomatoes.....
I see what you did there up
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/15 11:58 PM

I have my rows made up and my fertilizer down under them, but I ran out of fertilizer. I need about 10 more pounds of 13-13-13. I hate to buy a whole 50 pound bag and carry it over. Can you buy it by the pound?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/15 12:48 AM

You can get 10# bags of triple 10 at Tractor Supply, not sure about triple 13.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/15 02:05 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I have my rows made up and my fertilizer down under them, but I ran out of fertilizer. I need about 10 more pounds of 13-13-13. I hate to buy a whole 50 pound bag and carry it over. Can you buy it by the pound?


At a feed store that has bulk fertilizer you can, or get the 50#, use what you need and put the rest on your lawn.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/15 02:51 PM

Question for y'all, I have been seeing more rabbits than ever this year. I know they have always been around but I have never had them eat anything that I plant. But with seeing so many now, I figure I should ask what do they eat in a garden? Is it just because I only plant Tomatoes, onions and peppers that I have never been hit?

What kind of fence should I put if i decide to fence? Can they get through chainlink? I was thinking about 2 tall' chainlink but not sure if the little bastages can jump over that or not.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/15 03:19 PM

If they can get their head through, they are in. I have field fence with a 24" bottom run of 1" chicken wire. Haven't had one in yet. From what I have seen, they prefer more succulent plants (leafy stuff). They are smarter than you think too, I have seen them walk the whole fence perimeter to get in.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/15 04:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I have my rows made up and my fertilizer down under them, but I ran out of fertilizer. I need about 10 more pounds of 13-13-13. I hate to buy a whole 50 pound bag and carry it over. Can you buy it by the pound?


At a feed store that has bulk fertilizer you can, or get the 50#, use what you need and put the rest on your lawn.


That's what I ended up doing. It wasn't that I was all that strapped. I just don't handle a 50 pound bag as easily as I once did. Carl loaded it up for me. I might just leave it in the bed of my truck and use it from there.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/15 05:22 PM

Pour what you need in a 5 gallon bucket, or manageable amount, soon it will be light enough to pull the bag out, (before condensations starts getting to it.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/15 06:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
If they can get their head through, they are in. I have field fence with a 24" bottom run of 1" chicken wire. Haven't had one in yet. From what I have seen, they prefer more succulent plants (leafy stuff). They are smarter than you think too, I have seen them walk the whole fence perimeter to get in.

what my parents and grandparents did was merely use re-bar stakes about every 4-5 feet with 2' tall chicken wire. I have seen several cotton tails around the outside of my backyard proper that has chain link, but they can squeeze thru by the gate posts ... our blue heeler keeps them at bay away from the garden area though.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/15 09:15 PM

Just picked up 100 feet of 2" x 3" x 2' tall green vinyl coated wire and some posts at tractor supply. I don't think they can get through this & if they do, I will put chicken wire on the inside so I still have the clean look of the vinyl coated. Gonna go ahead and make my garden a little bigger while I'm at it too.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/15 01:44 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Just picked up 100 feet of 2" x 3" x 2' tall green vinyl coated wire and some posts at tractor supply. I don't think they can get through this & if they do, I will put chicken wire on the inside so I still have the clean look of the vinyl coated. Gonna go ahead and make my garden a little bigger while I'm at it too.


Good start, if a few do get in, don't assume they went through the wire, they will jumps over when they figure it out. Will still keep the higher percentage out. up In 2 years, I have had only one try to jump over the 1" wire and he bounced of the large fence, if I catch one in there, I will just open the gate and "herd" it out. I like having them around, funny to watch.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/15 09:14 PM

I put my tomatoes, bell peppers, and jalapeos in today. I'm all done except for squash, cucumbers and a few herbs. I'm going with all started plants this year.

I may not get a good stand with my potatoes. Looks as if some of them might have rotted in the ground. My onions are looking good. I'm about ready to side dress them with my new sack of fertilizer. I'm ready for the forecasted rain.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/15 03:01 PM

I got all my fence posts driven in, garden area all cleaned out & got half of my fence up & half of the garden tilled yesterday, already raining this morning. I went from a 8x16 garden to a 12x32 garden so some of it hadn't ever been tilled so some of it was hard to do. I'll get the rest of it tilled up next weekend hopefully. No pics. Camera broke (pos anyway) I'm buying a nice one next weekend, tired of jacking with crappy cameras.
Posted By: Cool Mo D

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/15 08:30 PM

Glad someone is having a little luck. I'm writing mine off, full of weeds, purple flowers,can't even walk in it. Have some seed potatoes and 1 bunch of onions if anyone wants them. I'm in the area.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/15 12:36 AM

Originally Posted By: Cool Mo D
Glad someone is having a little luck. I'm writing mine off, full of weeds, purple flowers,can't even walk in it. Have some seed potatoes and 1 bunch of onions if anyone wants them. I'm in the area.


Might as well till it under and give it a go, nothing to loose if your just going to give them away.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/15 12:48 AM

My tomatoes and peppers have sprouted, and are coming along nicely. Today I had a look at my fruit trees and gave them a little fertilizer. Hopefully mother nature will allow us to make some fruit this year.
Posted By: Tres

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/15 03:56 PM

I set all my tomatoes out a few days ago to get some sun. Forecast was for a low of 40, walked out and they all got bit. Hopefully can salvage most of them. Was talking with my dad last night and he said the best crop of tomatoes he ever got was a few years ago from plants he put in that got bit also. Anyone else had a similar experience?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/15 04:56 PM

Some of mine got stung a little last year but you could tell that they were going to make it.
Posted By: Tres

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/15 06:54 PM

I think these will make it, just hope it doesn't set them back too much.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/15 11:55 PM

I ordered my caladium bulbs today. I love them.
Posted By: Tres

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/15 04:04 AM

Finally getting tomatoes in. Hopefully finishing everything else next weekend.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/15 01:15 PM

Just ordered 40 UC 157 F1 2 year old Asparagus crowns banana Now I need to finish the bed!

$25 for 20, 2 year old crowns is pretty good W/ free shipping up Finally found them on Ebay of all places.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/15 01:49 PM

I was hoping to get some tomatoes and peppers in the ground this weekend but can't find any plants yet. Gonna check Home Depot in mesquite at lunch today.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/15 02:26 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
I was hoping to get some tomatoes and peppers in the ground this weekend but can't find any plants yet. Gonna check Home Depot in mesquite at lunch today.


I saw a bunch at Lowes Saturday in Decatur and also at a small roadside joint here in Springtown, they where all very small plants though, maybe 6"-
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/15 02:35 PM

I have always done good with buying the small ones that come 4 to a pack. my Lowes and Groom & son don't have any at all though.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/15 03:23 PM

I think the late freeze may have had them "gun shy", the Lowes in Decatur has very few yet, but they are putting up the normal stands they usually load up. I don't mind the small tomato plants, but like the bigger ones better, since I bury them pretty deep.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/15 08:16 PM

I did find some tomatoes (only 4 but it's a start), Red Bell Peppers (6) and jalapenos (6). I need at least 8 more tomato plants and some green bell peppers and Banana peppers. Gonna be too muddy to plant this weekend anyway. Not compaining, the lake is less than 6" low right now and we had a heck of a rain come through this morning, it will fill easily (or dang close to it). Hasn't been above 3' low for 3 summers now. I know the businesses around the lake are happy. They will be booming this summer.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/15 10:09 PM

Until your water district sucks it all out for Dallas!, Cant get water from the lakes out West!!
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/15 03:03 PM

Ours goes to Fort worth. I found the rest of what I wanted at Wal Mart.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/15 08:58 PM

My potatoes are cracking the ground. I thought maybe they would rot in the ground.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/15 10:00 PM

I've got onions in the ground, turnip, collards and chard seeds planted. Tomatoes still under the lights in the garage.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/15 02:11 PM

I just got all my fencing up & the garden all tilled yesterday but didn't plant anything yet. I want to run the tiller through one more time before I plant & it was a little bit muddy too. More rain coming Wed, Thurs. & Fri. I may be a little late on planting this year. All my plants are in the Bathroom in our garden tub right now.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/15 02:48 PM

Garden tub clap Appropriate up

I am poking along as well, haven't bought a plant except the Asparagus. blush
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/15 02:21 PM

I'm done except for cucumbers. I couldn't find the burp less ones yesterday. I'll keep looking.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/15 03:41 PM

My tomatoes are blooming.

Do you guys wish you could step away from your garden for a couple of weeks like I do? I walk out to mine several times a day.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/15 07:56 PM

I just wish mine would dry out enough to be able to till one more time and plant!
Posted By: Featherduster

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/15 06:08 PM

Have collards, brussel sprouts, and carrots in the ground. Will be planting the rest of the veggies pretty soon.



Originally Posted By: bill oxner
My tomatoes are blooming.

Do you guys wish you could step away from your garden for a couple of weeks like I do? I walk out to mine several times a day.

Amen!

Walked out to mine a couple times the other day...knowing good and well exactly what it was going to look like
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/15 01:43 PM

peep

Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/15 01:47 PM

Originally Posted By: East
peep



Yeah, we bought some at Krogers too peep
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/15 01:58 PM

Originally Posted By: East
peep





bs
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/15 01:59 PM

Man..........you got a fat hand
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/15 02:27 PM

technically if the windows are open on the green house its still an outdoor garden
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/15 02:01 AM

With the last few days of sun and wind I was finally able to mud in 14 tomato plants and a few peppers. Still too muddy to plant much of anything else.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/15 01:00 PM

Mine is finally drying out nicely. Pretty much all tilled and ready to go, just wanted to see if that storm was going to do anything last night but thank goodness it stayed north of us. I will plant some of it this evening and then let my 4 year old nephew help me plant the rest Friday evening or Saturday morning.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/15 04:32 PM

my wife and I plan on getting our tomatoes, squash and asparagus planted tomorrow (yeah, we're late on the asparagus). What strain of tomatoes do ya'll have really good luck with, high production quantity & quality?
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/15 04:37 PM

For me, Celebrity. By a long shot.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/15 04:43 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
For me, Celebrity. By a long shot.


X's 2, Produce nearly all summer for us. Beef stakes are good as well. Did OK with brandy wines heirlooms, but not like celebrity.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/15 06:09 PM

Me three.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/15 08:14 PM

4
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/15 08:37 PM

thanks, that's one variety we have used in the past, we did early girl (I think) with one plant last year and it was light years faster putting on fruit. Seems like by the time the celebrity starts producing, the ground is getting up in temperature where they shut down ... until the fall when the temps fall back down.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/15 11:54 PM

Celebrity for salads and slicing and Romas for salsa.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/15 12:06 AM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
Celebrity for salads and slicing and Romas for salsa.


I don't like picking all those small tomatoes. I use celebrities for salsa. I blanch them skin the, cut off the stem third and give them a squeeze to get rid of the seeds and pulp.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/15 12:46 AM

I grow Homestead 24 and Marglobe. The HS 24 works well in our climate when we go from a freeze the week before planting, to 90-100 degree days the next and it stays that way. Celebrity works well here to, I just like the Homesteads better as far as flavor and size. I will harden the seedlings next week, and plant the weekend after Easter this year. The soil is ready except for drawing up the rows.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/15 01:11 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: skeeter22
Celebrity for salads and slicing and Romas for salsa.


I don't like picking all those small tomatoes. I use celebrities for salsa. I blanch them skin the, cut off the stem third and give them a squeeze to get rid of the seeds and pulp.


+1. And for some reason I can't get Roma's to produce very good. I made 36 jars of Salsa last year plus gave away & ate over 100 more tomato's with 12 celebrity plants.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/15 09:31 PM

I'm a couple of weeks late, have had a lot of rain this month. I've been seeing a lot of ladybugs.




old rows with fertilizer applied



disced with the tractor



tilled it in



marked the rows with the four wheeler



hoed up the rows



laid down the weed barrier



planted everything but the japs & squash. Have enough extra in case anything dies and weighed down the fabric with bricks.



I just need to finish planting and put in the cages.

I'm seeing ladybugs everywhere....



Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/15 10:31 PM

Looking great Payne. up
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/15 10:50 PM

So Payne, what did you do today? roflmao I'd be in the ER if I did my garden like that in one day! Looks great up

Been out most the day, but yet to see a LB, should be soon though. I released 1k last year and hand a bunch hang around. Also put out 4 cases of praying mantis and have new cases all over the place from those , saw them up till deer season! up
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/15 10:52 PM

Originally Posted By: skinnerback
Looking great Payne. up


You betchem Red Rider.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/15 11:14 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: skeeter22
Celebrity for salads and slicing and Romas for salsa.


I don't like picking all those small tomatoes. I use celebrities for salsa. I blanch them skin the, cut off the stem third and give them a squeeze to get rid of the seeds and pulp.


+1. And for some reason I can't get Roma's to produce very good. I made 36 jars of Salsa last year plus gave away & ate over 100 more tomato's with 12 celebrity plants.


Well, I will try the Celebrity's for sauce then, may have to hit you fellas up later on the particulars. Wife wants to can pasta sauce, so "runny" sauce, isn't a real option. I have have less then steller from Roma's too, but there is a Russian Big Roma seed I will try next year.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/15 11:33 PM

You have to add tomato paste to keep your sauce from separating, or either cook it for several hours no matter what tomatoes you use.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/15 03:43 PM

Looks great man! I got mine tilled for the third time, rows made and fabric on & mulch between the rows. Only have some of my stuff planted but should get it finished by Wednesday evening. I'll take a picture and post it when I get everything planted.
Posted By: Tres

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/15 05:30 PM

I found some San marzano at the garden center here. In Italy by law it is the only tomato that can be used in a margherita pizza. I've never grown them but bought two to try, they were the first I put in to flower.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/15 05:40 PM

I'm done. Tomatoes, squash, eggplant, zucchini, banana & bell peppers, japs and cucumbers. Need to sow some green beans.



Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/15 05:45 PM

What kind of cucumbers?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/15 08:36 PM

picklebush
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/15 10:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
picklebush


roflmao
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/15 10:25 PM

Well I finally got around to tilling the area for my vegetable garden. Now I just need to work the soil and get the rocks out of it before I can start planting stuff.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/15 11:24 PM

Originally Posted By: skinnerback
Originally Posted By: Payne
picklebush


roflmao



banana2

http://www.burpee.com/vegetables/cucumbers/pickling/cucumber-picklebush-prod000696.html
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/15 12:49 AM

Do you make pickles? I make a few hamburger dill slices. I'm saving a couple of my store bought pickle jars. I need a couple more fat jars.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/15 12:59 AM

bread and butter is a staple around here
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/15 03:54 PM

Payne, why do you cover your garden with plastic? Is that to stimulate growth? How long do you leave it on?
Thanks
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/15 04:03 PM

Anyone have any recommendations on where to get good compost?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/15 06:32 PM

Try a nursery or a dirt yard near you. You can get a pickup load in my area for around $30.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/15 07:22 PM

Originally Posted By: wilhunt
Payne, why do you cover your garden with plastic? Is that to stimulate growth? How long do you leave it on?
Thanks


http://www.preen.com/products/preen-landscape-weed-control-fabric


It's not plastic, it's a fabric to prevent weeds. I hate wasting time hoeing/pulling weeds so I spend 30$ and 45 minutes laying it down then forget about weeding during the growing season. It may be a byproduct but that's not why I do it. Usually until I plant my fall garden. I hope the summer heat burns any weed seed in the soil.
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/15 07:36 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Try a nursery or a dirt yard near you. You can get a pickup load in my area for around $30.


Any idea how much I would need to cover an inch or two of that big of an area? The area is roughly 20x25.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/15 07:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Humannpower
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Try a nursery or a dirt yard near you. You can get a pickup load in my area for around $30.


Any idea how much I would need to cover an inch or two of that big of an area? The area is roughly 20x25.



See if this will help you figure it.
http://www.klickitatcounty.org/solidwaste/fileshtml/organics/compostcalc.htm
Posted By: janie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/15 12:56 AM

Everyone's garden's are looking great. Payne, the amount of work you put into yours is clearly evident. cheers

I'll post a pic up within the next few days. We just got started on our's. Kept it small. Raised bed. Squash, 2 different type's of onion's and carrot seed's along with asparagus.

Bill wanted potato's this year, and a girl he works with, has been planting them inside of straw bale's, with much success.

I'll be stopping at the feed store tomorrow to pick up a couple of bale's.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/15 01:57 AM

Originally Posted By: janie
Everyone's garden's are looking great. Payne, the amount of work you put into yours is clearly evident. cheers

I'll post a pic up within the next few days. We just got started on our's. Kept it small. Raised bed. Squash, 2 different type's of onion's and carrot seed's along with asparagus.

Bill wanted potato's this year, and a girl he works with, has been planting them inside of straw bale's, with much success.

I'll be stopping at the feed store tomorrow to pick up a couple of bale's.


Janie I've been wanting to try something that a co-worker from Abalama does every year with potatoes, well his mother actually......they cut the sidewalls out of all of their "potato tires". Stacks a couple of tires up filled with potting soil or good dirt & plants potato's in the bottom. Water, and as the potato vines grow up & out they stack on another tire and put dirt in it, helping the vines up & out. They just keep on stacking tires as the potatoes grow until the stack is 8 or 10 high. Once the vines grow out of the top good they knock the whole stack over. I am told that the potatoes will be plum full inside of each tire, am told you will have more taters than you know what to do with. Might try this someday.......
Posted By: BuckRage

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/15 02:14 AM

Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/15 02:27 AM

Ha ha ha ha ha...you are BURNT!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/15 03:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Humannpower
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Try a nursery or a dirt yard near you. You can get a pickup load in my area for around $30.


Any idea how much I would need to cover an inch or two of that big of an area? The area is roughly 20x25.


One yard will cover 80 square feet 4 inches deep. You might also try horse farms or stables in your area. They have chips mixed with manure. Some of it is pretty well composted, and they usually have a front end loader.
Posted By: BuckRage

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/15 04:49 PM

Originally Posted By: skinnerback
Ha ha ha ha ha...you are BURNT!


http://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/5679565/uh_hum...._Skinner...#Post5679565
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/03/15 02:50 PM

I had several clumps of marble size tomatoes this morning. I should have ripe tomatoes by Memorial Day.

I have more onions putting on seed pods than usual.
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/15 12:02 AM

Dang deer, planted my tomatoes and peppers last weed but waited till this week to put my cages around them and one of my peppers has already had the top nipped off.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/15 03:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Originally Posted By: wilhunt
Payne, why do you cover your garden with plastic? Is that to stimulate growth? How long do you leave it on?
Thanks


http://www.preen.com/products/preen-landscape-weed-control-fabric


It's not plastic, it's a fabric to prevent weeds. I hate wasting time hoeing/pulling weeds so I spend 30$ and 45 minutes laying it down then forget about weeding during the growing season. It may be a byproduct but that's not why I do it. Usually until I plant my fall garden. I hope the summer heat burns any weed seed in the soil.


Some hoeing relaxes me, but enough is enough. I started putting down some newspapers in my middles this morning.

My four rows are looking great.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/15 03:42 PM

About 1/2 planted. Nothing big.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/15 03:56 PM

Looks good CM, I thought Sheryl Crow wore a dress?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/15 04:30 PM

Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/15 04:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Looks good CM, I thought Sheryl Crow wore a dress?


Denton is "lifestyle friendly", Payne. She can wear what she wants.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/15 05:06 PM

roflmao
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/15 05:09 PM

Got mine all planted finally. Garlic & Onions (red, yellow & white),6 Jalapenos, 2 Mammoth Jalapenos, 6 Sweet Banana Peppers, 4 Red Bell Pepper, 4 Green Bell Pepper, 2 Crookneck Squash, 2 Straightneck Squash, 1 Zucchini Squash, 1 Cucumber (some kind of pickling cucumber, can't remember name) 1 Big Beef Tomato, 1 Hybrid Roma / Grape Tomato (can't remember name of it either - was accidental purchase), 10 Celebrity Tomatoes, 4 Homestead Tomatoes and one Cherry Tomato. And we have a Cherry Tomato and a Patio Tomato on our front porch in pots.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/15 05:25 PM

You fellas sure must have better luck with those soaker hoses and fabric. Out of 24 hoses bought last year new, I have 5 that don't leak from cracks enough to use. The fabric I paid over $150 for last year, just made weeding a PITA and crabgrass took over.

Will try hay again this year and looking into a better drip system if I get time to mess with it. May just buy a Mantis 4 stroke with the Honda motor and use a dam water hose. I have not doubt crabgrass is of the debil and if it becomes a problem again this year after I burned the garden off last fall, I will use a pr-emergent and miss a year of gardening.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/15 05:27 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Got mine all planted finally. Garlic & Onions (red, yellow & white),6 Jalapenos, 2 Mammoth Jalapenos, 6 Sweet Banana Peppers, 4 Red Bell Pepper, 4 Green Bell Pepper, 2 Crookneck Squash, 2 Straightneck Squash, 1 Zucchini Squash, 1 Cucumber (some kind of pickling cucumber, can't remember name) 1 Big Beef Tomato, 1 Hybrid Roma / Grape Tomato (can't remember name of it either - was accidental purchase), 10 Celebrity Tomatoes, 4 Homestead Tomatoes and one Cherry Tomato. And we have a Cherry Tomato and a Patio Tomato on our front porch in pots.


Looks great, Kevin.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/15 05:42 PM

looks good Bill & CC
Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/15 07:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Humannpower
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Try a nursery or a dirt yard near you. You can get a pickup load in my area for around $30.


Any idea how much I would need to cover an inch or two of that big of an area? The area is roughly 20x25.


Black Kow comes from Bono and can be purchased at Lowes or HD. Depending on what you are planting I would add 8-12 50# bags to that size of garden. Blackeye peas don't need rich soil like some other plants do, you will get more foilage and less peas.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/15 12:39 AM

I got my 40 tomatoes and 40 peppers in today, hoed the weedlings (is that a word?) out of the onions, and enjoyed the day. I tilled the part of the garden I am planting this year on Friday, and pulled up the rows afterwards. I was going to plant the maters and peppers Saturday, but went fishing instead. I wanted to plant two weeks ago, but we were still playing around with mid to high 30's at night, and last week we saw 43 degrees four days in a row. I started these plants 3-6-15, and they were starting to show signs of being root bound, so I worked with a slightly muddy surface today after last nights .6" rain. The surface should be dry enough tomorrow to use the planter and sow the beans, purple hulls, squash, zucchini, cucumbers, and herbs. I will hold off a couple weeks and then plant the cantaloupe and okra. I'm only planting a quarter of the garden this year since I'm on the road with work more often. It still gives me a little over a quarter acre, and we will have plenty if things work out. There may be some family and friends with long faces this year when they don't get as much as usual.

Sorry for the low quality pics, I was too lazy to go to the house an get the camera, so these are Iphone quality, pretty bad.


^^^^Looking to the South, onions have been in since 2-16-15. To their left are 20 Homestead Maters, and to their left are 8 Porterhouse, 8 Marglobe, and 4 Cherry Maters. The Peppers were next with 24 Japs, 4 Habanero, 4 Aneheim Chilis, 4 Serrano, and 4 Cayenne.



Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/15 10:17 AM

looks good LC
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/15 12:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
looks good LC


Real good! up
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/15 01:25 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Originally Posted By: Payne
looks good LC


Real good! up
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/15 01:37 PM

finally got the asparagus planted in the old water trough, 10 3 years old stems ...

Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/15 03:59 PM

HMK, looks great brudda! I got my crowns planted about 3 weeks ago and no signs of life yet bang
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/15 05:32 PM








New scarecrow thanks to Chickenman.

Made it out of pvc & some quarterround for the arms/waist. Drove a 8' piece of rebar 5' into the grond. Placed a washer at the bottom and it spins in the wind.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/15 05:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
HMK, looks great brudda! I got my crowns planted about 3 weeks ago and no signs of life yet bang

PMK not HMK ... and no, I don't think we are related ... LOL ... We bought our crowns back in late Feb. but held off due to that last cold snap on planting, and then it's been too wet or we were busy/out of town. We are very late getting these started and I don't anticipate seeing any growth for quite some time.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/15 09:30 PM

I'm glad I got my plants early when they still had 6 and 4 packs. I needed a few more bell peppers. I've been in a half dozen places and all they had was those singles. I didn't Need them bad enough to pay $3.50 each for them. I finally found some singles at Home Depot on sale for $2.00 each, but the kicker is that I found two doubles. I'm now really done.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/15 10:24 PM

Originally Posted By: PMK
Originally Posted By: Western
HMK, looks great brudda! I got my crowns planted about 3 weeks ago and no signs of life yet bang

PMK not HMK ... and no, I don't think we are related ... LOL ... We bought our crowns back in late Feb. but held off due to that last cold snap on planting, and then it's been too wet or we were busy/out of town. We are very late getting these started and I don't anticipate seeing any growth for quite some time.


rofl My bad, and to think there is only 2 of you fellas with handles that close and I missed it. You start tying flies and I will really get confused. grin
Posted By: HMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/15 10:34 PM

LAUGHING!!!!!!
Posted By: HMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/15 10:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Hancock
Originally Posted By: Humannpower
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Try a nursery or a dirt yard near you. You can get a pickup load in my area for around $30.


Any idea how much I would need to cover an inch or two of that big of an area? The area is roughly 20x25.


Black Kow comes from Bono and can be purchased at Lowes or HD. Depending on what you are planting I would add 8-12 50# bags to that size of garden. Blackeye peas don't need rich soil like some other plants do, you will get more foilage and less peas.


Yes and BE Peas are good to sow in the fall to make your garden fertile for the spring crop.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/15 02:15 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne



clap

If she's available this Friday night, maybe I can pick her up.?.?
Posted By: sshields

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/15 02:12 PM

got my garden almost all in. 8 tomatoes, 4 green peppers,2 red pepper,2 japs, 6 cucumbers,40 asparagus crowns, 100s of onions, carrots, sweet corn and beans.

Posted By: sshields

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/15 02:19 PM

Here is my asparagus patch. 20 jersey knight planted 2 years ago from 1 year old crowns, 20 jersey supreme planted last year from 1 year old crowns. The picture doesn't do them justice some are huge. Now if I can figure out how to keep the grasshoppers off of them maybe I'll be able to harvest all of them next year.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/15 04:29 PM

very nice garden sshields
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/15 09:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
very nice garden sshields


Sure is.

Look into Green Light Spinosad for the bugs.
Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/15 01:44 AM


Thought I would share. Started inside planted two weeks ago Hungary wax pepper.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/15 03:07 PM

Heads up guys. Home Depot has potting soil on sale for $1.88 per bag, limit 50 bags.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/15 05:49 PM

OHHHHHHHHHH ... that reminded me of a "did you know" ... We were checking out of Home Depot last Sunday evening and the old guy at the register noticed I was using my HD credit card leaned over and said in a low tone of voice "you need to ask me for the Lowe's Matching 5% discount" ... I said "ok, how's about including the Lowe's matching 5% discount" ... BAM, 5% off just for saying that.

FYI ...
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/15 06:10 PM

Thanks Ox! Went and grabbed 25 bags at lunch.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/15 07:32 PM

did you ask for your 5% discount?
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/15 07:46 PM

Originally Posted By: PMK
did you ask for your 5% discount?



Nope, you posted that while I was gone to get it. bang
No biggie, still real pleased with the deal. Last year they had them for 5 bags for $10 ($2 each). I didn't think I'd ever see them that cheap again, real surprised to see them cheaper.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/15 11:34 PM

I'm getting some my next time up that way.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/15 08:52 PM

I got 20 bags today you have to have a Home Depot card to get the 5 percent.

I have some almost tennis ball size red potatoes. I'm done with store bought potatoes until September. I'll pan fry some up Sunday, along with some bulbiing green onions, and maybe my first yellow squash for a little color.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/15 10:37 PM

As much as we shop at Home Depot, it pays to have their credit card!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/15 09:52 PM

My basil is beautiful but already going to seed. I topped it today which will make it put on more stems. I hated to discard the topped leaves. Next time it needs picking I plan to freeze it.
Posted By: Frenzy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/15 05:12 PM

Here's my little garden, still got a little work to do.



Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/15 05:28 PM

looks good
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/15 10:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
looks great


I fixed it for you.

I think I'm too impatient to be a really great gardener. I must have visited my garden a dozen times today. On the other hand, I have tomato shoots escaping my cages.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/15 01:14 AM

First Rocky Top.

Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/15 01:02 PM

Looking good everyone! Mine is growing like crazy. Has been a crazy week so I haven't spent much time at mine, I know when I am out there this weekend I will be amazed how much it has grown. I would do the same thing Bill, If I was home all the time, I would be out there looking at it 5 or 6 times a day.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/15 01:10 PM

I lost about half from flooding, have beans coning up in my tomato cages! May have to replant a few rows of beans, corn,cucs,cantaloupe and melons.. Most of my asparagus is up though so up

Bill, I am the same way, walk out several times a day expecting different results LOL

Chicken man, your tomatoes are about 2 months ahead of mine.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/15 11:47 PM

I grubbed a few potatoes, and used some bulbiing green onions for pan fried potatoes last night.
Posted By: janie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/15 01:03 AM

This rain has done wonders. Our 1st celebrity tomato has sprung. Onions look great. We've never had luck with carrot's, so I purposely planted the seeds 4 - 6 inches deep. My Dad told me I screwed up.

LOL

They've started sprouting up, and we also planted asparagus. Now have 6 total.

Bill planted potato's inside of straw bales. Time will tell.
Posted By: Tres

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/15 03:26 AM

No substitute for the real thing. My marzanos set fruit last week, celebs over the weekend. Can't wait for the first one to get ripe.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/15 09:48 PM

Originally Posted By: janie
This rain has done wonders. Our 1st celebrity tomato has sprung. Onions look great. We've never had luck with carrot's, so I purposely planted the seeds 4 - 6 inches deep. My Dad told me I screwed up.

LOL

They've started sprouting up, and we also planted asparagus. Now have 6 total.

Bill planted potato's inside of straw bales. Time will tell.


Plant carrots in September.
Posted By: Ringer1

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/15 12:17 AM

Anyone know a place in the Rowlett, Rockwall, Garland area that will deliver three yards of soil for my new vegetable garden in my backyard. I would need it hauled from the front yard or alley to the raised garden.

Any help is appreciated
Posted By: HMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/15 07:16 AM

Originally Posted By: janie
This rain has done wonders. Our 1st celebrity tomato has sprung. Onions look great. We've never had luck with carrot's, so I purposely planted the seeds 4 - 6 inches deep. My Dad told me I screwed up.

LOL

They've started sprouting up, and we also planted asparagus. Now have 6 total.

Bill planted potato's inside of straw bales. Time will tell.


Janie,

The best way to plant carrots is make sure you have a nice, deep, soft soil. mix carrot seed in a cup or 2 of sand. Sprinkle mixture over soil and water carefully to keep from washing them away, then cover with a board. keep an eye on them and when they begin to sprout, take the board off.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/15 02:47 PM

I grubbed out another half dozen red potatoes for a pot roast tonight. They're going to be all gone before its digging time.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/15 03:19 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I grubbed out another half dozen red potatoes for a pot roast tonight. They're going to be all gone before its digging time.


If they are good eating, I say it's "digging time" whenever Bill says its "digging time" up
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/15 05:35 PM

I don't want to dig up the whole plant because they still have marble size potatoes which are still growing. I just grub out the potatoes that are cracking the ground. I'm using my bulbiing green onions the same way. I pull them up as I'm using them.

My tomatoes are now baseball size. It seems as if they start backing up at this stage of the game.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/15 05:46 PM

When I was a kid, granny would have us pull a basket of those small potatoes (new), made the best unpeeled and mashed. Reds only, never pulled the whites. confused2
Posted By: TimOub007

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/15 06:25 PM

I have one onion that bolted, went to seed. What should I do with that seed head before it blows away? It looks like a dandelion ready for the kids to blow like a birthday candle.

Tim
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/15 06:59 PM

Originally Posted By: TimOub007
I have one onion that bolted, went to seed. What should I do with that seed head before it blows away? It looks like a dandelion ready for the kids to blow like a birthday candle.

Tim


Pull it and eat it if it's firm enough. They usually do that when hit with late cool/freeze. From what I have been told, they don't do good after that. I have left some over winter that seeded out before and not one was even edible for me, bulb was small and mushy.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/15 07:19 PM

Originally Posted By: TimOub007
I have one onion that bolted, went to seed. What should I do with that seed head before it blows away? It looks like a dandelion ready for the kids to blow like a birthday candle.

Tim


I hate that. About ten percent of mine bolted. I break them off but they will never make a full onion bulb. Just chop them up and use them. Or throw them on the grill for a ambiance.
Posted By: TimOub007

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/15 02:10 PM

Thank you.

Can I do anything with the seed pods?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/15 06:51 PM

One month in

Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/15 06:52 PM

up
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/15 09:22 PM

Looks good Payne.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/15 09:30 PM

up
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/15 01:34 PM

Yep. looks real good Payne.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/15 10:59 AM

I'm having a cheeseburger for dinner tonight and will use my first slicer onion. No more store bought until October. I plan to dig up a whole hill of potatoes for my next use. I'm anxious to see what's down there.

I gave half of my garden space to my neighbor and saw that he had a mature cucumber yesterday. I have the burpless kind with lots of vines but no fruit yet. (Why do vegetables fruit up?)
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/15 02:49 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: TimOub007
I have one onion that bolted, went to seed. What should I do with that seed head before it blows away? It looks like a dandelion ready for the kids to blow like a birthday candle.

Tim


I hate that. About ten percent of mine bolted. I break them off but they will never make a full onion bulb. Just chop them up and use them. Or throw them on the grill for a ambiance.


I might have misled you a little on this. I broke them off earlier this year. (At first sight) I pulled a red one Thursday to slice for my cheeseburger and it was just slightly one sided. The onion was big enough to slice for a burger. I prefer one big slice but the three smaller slices worked.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/15 06:00 PM

I talk to myself a lot when I cook a really good dish, but now you bashful guys have me writing to myself on the garden thread.

I dug up 4 hills of potatoes today for pan fried potatoes. This year will not be my best crop. I picked my first zucchini, and yellow squash. I'll put them in the pan with 4 deformed purple onions, and some dill. Bell peppers goes in there also. I had to buy one at Kroger. Mine are about half grown.

My tomatoes looks as if they will start turning anytime, but you know how that goes. I saw a cucumber that looks as if it will be ready to pick in a couple of days. Those suckers have a way of hiding on the vine. I have them climbing on a tomato cage.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/15 11:07 PM

sometimes talking to yourself is the only intelligent conversation you can have ...
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/15 01:24 PM



My jalapenos are ready, and I picked my first bell pepper this morning to add to a marinated salad that I plan to make soon.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/15 01:30 PM

Dang Bill, you're at least a month ahead of mine, I just got flowers this week on the peppers and tomatoes. My corn is really coming on with this rain too.

I did order myself a 4 cycle mantis tiller, should be here today. Been thinking about it for a few years and after hoeing small crabgrass for 3 hrs Sunday, I went in and placed the order roflmao
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/15 01:21 AM

I got cabbages that are trying to make a head. I was late planting but they're hanging on thanks to the rain and cool nights.

My problem is worms are eating them like crazy. Little green worms. Cabbage worms?? How the @#%# do I get rid of them? I've tried sevin and it didn't seem to slow them down.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/15 02:36 AM

Originally Posted By: Cow_doc.308
I got cabbages that are trying to make a head. I was late planting but they're hanging on thanks to the rain and cool nights.

My problem is worms are eating them like crazy. Little green worms. Cabbage worms?? How the @#%# do I get rid of them? I've tried sevin and it didn't seem to slow them down.


Thuricide will kill cabbage loopers overnight. It'll also kill tomato horn worms. They use it on our pecan trees for worms.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/15 02:39 AM

Originally Posted By: Cow_doc.308
I got cabbages that are trying to make a head. I was late planting but they're hanging on thanks to the rain and cool nights.

My problem is worms are eating them like crazy. Little green worms. Cabbage worms?? How the @#%# do I get rid of them? I've tried sevin and it didn't seem to slow them down.


Get some Spinosad concentrate. I use green light and it works great. Monterrey also makes a concentrate. If you only have a small number of plants, Lowes carry's "captain jacks deadbug brew" with spinosad in a spray bottle.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/15 11:46 AM

Wife stopped at the feed and seed to get me some spinosad on Monday, she ended up getting a 25 pack bundle of sweet potato slips. Planted them yesterday morning all 50!! Haven't grown them in maybe 45 years, so we'll see.
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/15 07:21 PM

Picked my first sweet banana peppers..some of the plants have black on the "stalk". What might that be?
My tomato plants aregrowing like weeds but few tomato's, the blooms don't look good to me being an inexperienced gardener. your thoughts?

Thanks!
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/15 06:02 PM

Other than all the rain washing my mulch downhill, I think it's looking pretty good. That first tomato plant is a big beef, it's chest high and covered up in tomatoes. All my celebrity plants are a little over waist high and also covered up in maters. Have not watered one single time this spring.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/15 08:38 PM

looks good cc
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/15 12:40 PM

Looks great. I should have put my peppers in cages.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/15 02:17 PM

Found those smaller ones on sale for a dollar each at the end of last summer.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/15 02:58 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Found those smaller ones on sale for a dollar each at the end of last summer.


I had to cut a couple of sticks and tie two up today. They were loaded with teacup size peppers.

Lookout BLTs and turkey bacon clubs. I picked 4 ripe tomatoes this morning.

I'm also getting ready to make some dill hamburger slices.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/15 03:00 PM

I need you recipe for the dill hamburger slices if you are willing to give it up.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/15 03:10 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
I need you recipe for the dill hamburger slices if you are willing to give it up.


It's easy. Two parts water and one pari white vinegar with salt. Bring to a boil.

Pack the cucumbers or cucumber slices into a jar with dill, a jalapeo and a clove of garlic.

Pour the hot brine over the cucumbers and leave on the kitchen counter until the cucumbers turn color.

Refrigerate. They're ready to eat.

My original recipe came off the side of a kosher salt box. They called for one pint vinegar and two pints of water, with a half cup of kosher salt.

The vinegar bottle had a recipe that called for two pints vinegar and I pint of water. Along with a fourth cup of salt. And that my good friend is called marketing.
Posted By: Humannpower

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/15 05:20 PM

I got a worm or something that's eating my sweet peppers. Have heard that I can spray dish soap and water on my plants and that will deter most pests. Can anyone confirm this?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/15 08:19 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
I need you recipe for the dill hamburger slices if you are willing to give it up.


It's easy. Two parts water and one pari white vinegar with salt. Bring to a boil.

Pack the cucumbers or cucumber slices into a jar with dill, a jalapeo and a clove of garlic.

Pour the hot brine over the cucumbers and leave on the kitchen counter until the cucumbers turn color.

Refrigerate. They're ready to eat.

My original recipe came off the side of a kosher salt box. They called for one pint vinegar and two pints of water, with a half cup of kosher salt.

The vinegar bottle had a recipe that called for two pints vinegar and I pint of water. Along with a fourth cup of salt. And that my good friend is called marketing.


I'm bumping this to the top of the next page since the recipe has been requested before.

Also, I don't know if soap and water will help, but I promise you that Thuricide will kill chewing worms.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/15 04:10 PM

I just put up an quart and a half of slices this morning, along with a 28 ounce coffee can of spears. I picked more jalapenos than I needed so I sliced them and poured some of the same brine over them.

I never know how hot my jalapenos will be from year to year, so I plan to try them tomorrow night on some nachos.

Tonight is my first cheeseburger with home grown tomatoes.
Posted By: HMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/15 10:42 PM

I miss gardening on the farm. Here's some pictures from a couple years ago. I gotta get out of this metro mess one of these days. I did pant a few tomatoes and cantaloupes, but I miss being able to have 300 varieties of tomatoes.














Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/15 11:51 PM

Very nice HMK!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/15 11:58 PM

Originally Posted By: wilhunt
Very nice HMK!


That sucker cheated. Its old pictures.
Posted By: HMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/15 01:10 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: wilhunt
Very nice HMK!


That sucker cheated. Its old pictures.


Yes, I disclosed that, Bill. I don't have the space to grow Ike that anymore, but I've saved lots of varieties from extinction with my work.
Posted By: HMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/15 01:13 AM

Originally Posted By: Humannpower
I got a worm or something that's eating my sweet peppers. Have heard that I can spray dish soap and water on my plants and that will deter most pests. Can anyone confirm this?


If you do try this treatment don't do it when the sun is shining down or it will burn your plants and rinse it off after a few minutes
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/15 04:25 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner


My jalapenos are ready, and I picked my first bell pepper this morning to add to a marinated salad that I plan to make soon.

Nice, when were they planted?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/15 04:39 PM

Around the middle of March. I bought them and held onto them a couple of weeks due to frost forecasts. Same with my tomatoes and bell peppers. I plan on freezing some stuffed bell peppers soon.
Posted By: HMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/15 06:10 PM

Nice peppers, Bill.

I have one that was given to me back in 07. I generally keep up with my trades, but as fate would have it, I can't remember her name or address. The package was marked purple pepper, purple foliage. Me and several other of my gardening friends tried different grow outs of different peppers, but was never able to figure out what it was. The first 2 years of growing it out did not yield any peppers, but on my third time, it did. I was not able to save seeds because I grew it to close to my other peppers. My seeds are getting old and I need to try to do a grow out or will become lost. I'll see if I can find a picture. Also, I tried digging it up and putting in the house at the end of the growing season, but it died shortly after.


Ah yes, here it is. Very pretty!

Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/15 07:33 PM

Is it too late now to start toms and japs?
Posted By: HMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/15 08:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Halfadozen
Is it too late now to start toms and japs?


too late for gathering now, but you can start some in a month or so for a fall crop
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/15 09:07 PM

Maybe not it FLO MO.
Posted By: Featherduster

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/15 09:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Halfadozen
Is it too late now to start toms and japs?


Not sure about toms, but you should be fine with japs.

I just planted 45 more pepper seeds a couple days ago.

9 different varieties, 5 of each kind.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/15 11:49 PM

Tonight's dinner was great. I had the leftover chicken parmesan with a fresh garden salad of iceberg, home grown tomatoes, purple onions, cucumbers, sweet bell peppers, and topped off with Ken's Steak House Italian dressing with aged Romano.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/15 12:26 PM

My timing could not have been better. I plan to defrost my freezer today and start over. I have tomatoes and basal, so I'll start with freezing a dozen pints of marinara. I already have enough pickles to last awhile. I might make some more to give away.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/15 03:23 PM







Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/15 03:33 PM

Are you planning to make pickles with the cucumbers?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/15 03:35 PM

yeah bread & butter with the bigger ones
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/15 06:01 PM

Picked my 1st banana pepper yesterday, was great with supper. Never grew them before, think I'm liking them a lot.

Got the Mantis tiller, man can that little 4 stroke run!! Ran it through the hybrid corn rows and it cleaned out the crabgrass that was coming back. Got some hay my nephew brought me, placed in the rows as well. Sorry for the photo, when I looked at it, I looked at the cell phone and the lens was dirty blush

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/15 06:15 PM

Looks good Western

grapes and plums are coming along nicely







Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/15 06:34 PM

Wish my plums where that big yet (the trees) How old are your grapes? I just planted 2 this Spring and the red one is the slow grower, both have grapes though. The "green " grapes has really grown like crazy.

Any tips for grapes? Not sure if I should spray them for bugs as a preventative, or any other things that need done, like fertilizer.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/15 07:43 PM

prune them in the winter, give them a lot of water & never fertilize grapes.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/15 07:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
prune them in the winter, give them a lot of water & never fertilize grapes.


Great thanks, the tag did say to avoid fertilizer when planting.

Bugs may be different where you are, but do you have to spray your grapes at some point to keep them from getting ruined? I expect some troubles with birds and maybe coons, but that I can deal will easy enough.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/15 08:01 PM

birds and squirrels are my enemy, my dogs kill the coons.

I haven't had any problem with bugs on the vines.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/15 08:18 PM

I think I can net the birds out, pretty much put the screws to the squirrels with a pellet gun grin I have had a few of the pea size grapes eaten on, or rather look pierced and sucked on? Was thinking of trying Spinosad, but doesn't work well with sucking bugs and all the rain will just wash it off. So far nothing has touched the vines or leaves.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/15 09:04 PM

I've lost very few tomatoes. I pick mine at first blush.
Posted By: Sparky45

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/15 11:31 PM

ahh, so here is the garden thread.

Did a search and it didn't show..


any advice on insects that are eating my okra? I reluctantly used a little Sevin Dust on them, but someone mentioned it kills bees and I don't want to do that.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/15 11:35 PM

Thuricide is good for all chewing worms.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/15 11:41 PM

what kind of insects?
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/15 01:52 AM

What Payne said......And

Spinosad will kill any chewing, eating bug, it is classed as "organic certified". It too will kill good bugs when applied, but safe for "non chewers" when dry, that is why you apply it right before dark when bees and lady bugs and such are usually gone for the day.

I have used green light and Monterrey brands in concentrate and the stuff works great.
Posted By: Sparky45

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/15 02:59 AM

anyone try orange oil?
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/15 03:25 AM

I havent
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/15 12:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Sparky45
anyone try orange oil?


Yes, and used as directed but it burnt my tomato plants up so won't spray directly on again. I now only spray the perimeter with it, with a heavier mix.
Posted By: Sparky45

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/15 12:39 PM

Originally Posted By: skinnerback
Originally Posted By: Sparky45
anyone try orange oil?


Yes, and used as directed but it burnt my tomato plants up so won't spray directly on again. I now only spray the perimeter with it, with a heavier mix.

thanks for the heads up
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/15 12:11 AM

I've given several tomatoes away. I'm freezing my first batch of marinara tomorrow or Friday.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/15 12:34 AM

A few pics from this afternoon.

My first bell pepper.

First squash.

Gonna be a good year for maters.

Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/15 12:53 PM

Looking good man
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/15 01:09 PM

Originally Posted By: East
Looking good man


Yep. He's getting there. I couldn't find straight neck squash this year. They simply look better to me.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/15 02:29 AM

Originally Posted By: Sparky45
Originally Posted By: skinnerback
Originally Posted By: Sparky45
anyone try orange oil?


Yes, and used as directed but it burnt my tomato plants up so won't spray directly on again. I now only spray the perimeter with it, with a heavier mix.

thanks for the heads up


up Spray the perimeter with a good mix of orange oil and it will deter ants and other crawling bugs. You will have to repeat after it rains of course.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/15 02:03 PM

I just went out and pulled up a few onions for my marinara. Several of the 1015Y onions had rotted in the ground.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/15 02:34 PM

I'm afraid I will have the same thing Bill. My garden hasn't even somewhat dried since it has been planted.
Posted By: Sparky45

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/15 11:31 PM

how high would my fence have to be to keep whitetail out of my garden?

I have a 4 foot small net for rabbits already on t-post
Could I extend it up somehow just to discourage deer?
I have not had any deer in the fence yet but I am seeing Tracks close to the garden and it makes me nervous
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/15 11:46 PM

I have mine at 6' right now and have had only one jump in, I am set up to go to almost 8' if needed by adding a row or 2 of top wire. I put in 8' t post every other one so it would be easier if needed.
Posted By: HMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/15 06:13 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I just went out and pulled up a few onions for my marinara. Several of the 1015Y onions had rotted in the ground.


Yeah, don't normally get this much rain! Sorry bout your onions. That's the only onion I plant anymore except for a few purple ones for Mom.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/15 12:45 AM

There's an old country gardening saying that goes, "I didn't get my seeds back."

At least I got my seeds back. I'll have enough good ones to make my salsa.
Posted By: HMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/15 01:14 AM

Hey Bill,

You plant any cantaloupes yet? I can send you some of my seeds if you need any.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/15 01:23 AM

Originally Posted By: HMK
Hey Bill,

You plant any cantaloupes yet? I can send you some of my seeds if you need any.


That's kind of you to offer, but hey don't do well in my garden.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/15 02:50 PM

storms knocked most of the santa rosas off the trees. The methleys stayed on though. Birds and squirrels had a field day with the ones on the ground.





Grapes should be ready end of June.

Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/15 03:23 PM

What do you do with all them grapes, you make wine?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/15 03:30 PM

Eat them and jam/jelly
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/15 03:43 PM

up
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/15 05:31 PM

Like that grape trellis Payne, great idea. If I hadn't planted on my garden fence, I'd be going that route.
Posted By: TimOub007

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/15 12:43 AM

How do I know when to pick okra and eggplant? I have some decent sized on each kind of plant but this is my first year growing either.

Tim
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/15 01:04 AM

Pick the okra when it is about the size of your index finger. Pick the eggplant when its about the size of a grapefruit.

Did any of your tomato cages fall over with the wind and soft soil? A few of mine did.
Posted By: TimOub007

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/15 01:34 AM

Thanks Bill. The two eggplant fruits are 8-10" long but only about 1.5-2" in diameter. I felt them this evening and they were not firm to the touch when I put some pressure on them. Never even bought an eggplant so I don't know what to gauge by. Some of the okra is already bigger than my index finger but I won't have enough to make a dish from. How do you keep them fresh and how long until the okra should be cooked?

None of my tomatoes got knocked over. I'm south of Beaumont so we didn't get near as much as a lot of the rest of the state lately. 1.5" on Sunday night and closer to 2" today. Filled in the cracks that had emerged in the soil.

Dusted with diatimatious earth this evening. Noticed that thousands of stink bug nymphs were perched atop my lettuce that has gone to flower/seed. Hope I wiped those bastard$ out this year. I have three preying mantis cocoons hung now for about a week. If the dusting didn't get them, maybe the mantis hatchlings will.

Tim
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/15 02:29 PM

You probably have the banana shaped eggplants. They will never get as big as a grapefruit. Just use your best judgment. Picked okra will keep a long time.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/15 03:04 PM

Black beauty is what I grow. They get pretty big and are quite tasty. I've sent some to people on here and they said they enjoyed them.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/15 04:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Black beauty is what I grow. They get pretty big and are quite tasty. I've sent some to people on here and they said they enjoyed them.

Ever make eggplant Parmesan ?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/15 05:18 PM

yes sir
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/15 02:45 PM

I saw my first stinkbug this morning.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/15 02:48 PM

Posted By: Tres

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/15 02:57 PM

Nice, that asparagi looks great grin
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/15 03:01 PM

Awesome grab Payne up Just hoping my garden doesn't drown, corn loves the rain though.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/15 03:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Tres
Nice, that asparagi looks great grin


roflmao
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/15 03:05 PM

The zucchini looks like a watermelon.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/15 03:06 PM

The pigs loved it
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/15 03:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
The pigs loved it


Anyone who has ever grown zucchini lets that happen from time to time. Cucumbers too.

I'm getting ready to make my first batch of salsa.

Posted By: Tres

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/15 06:52 PM

Not sure what is getting my tomatoes. Last couple days I've noticed more and more missing, still completely green. Guessing rats.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/15 07:04 PM

rats or squirrels??? we watched a squirrel grab one of my wife's peaches right off the tree ... we are one fewer tree rats now.
Posted By: Tres

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/15 07:50 PM

It's happening at night, why I think it's rats. Thought maybe possum but in order to get to the tomatoes they would tear the plant to pieces getting in and out. I'm putting out some special vittles for them tomorrow.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/15 07:55 PM

Coons used to get my tomatoes. mad
Posted By: Tres

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/15 09:30 PM

I wish I had a game camera handy, maybe I'll tell the wife I need one "for the garden".
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/15 09:39 PM

I pick mine at first blush. That helps some.
Posted By: Tres

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/15 10:28 PM

That's the thing Bill, these aren't even full size, let alone turning color. No remains of them anywhere to be found either. scratch
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/15 01:21 AM

Rabbit? What part of Houston?
Posted By: Tres

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/15 02:16 AM

Bellaire, not rabbits, planter boxes are 2 ft tall.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/15 05:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Tres
Bellaire, not rabbits, planter boxes are 2 ft tall.


COONS!! I say grin They were sliding in and out of my garden and leaving what they didn't eat on the top of my wooden fence posts. Some they would just take a bite out of and toss on the ground if they didn't like it. After that I started trapping them.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/15 05:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Tres
Bellaire, not rabbits, planter boxes are 2 ft tall.


Drive out sometime. I'll give you some good slicers. I live just a couple of miles south of where Bellaire ends.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/01/15 12:23 AM

Grass is worse than its ever been.

Cheryl Crow lost another hand. A mocking bird has discovered that she isn't real.

Tomatoes aren't turning yet.



Today's harvest.

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/01/15 12:34 AM

I'm about done. I made my second batch of salsa this morning.

I'd say that this year was about average for me. Onions, and potatoes below average. Tomatoes and peppers above average.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/01/15 01:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Chickenman
Today's harvest.







and you have the gumption to mock me??

roflmao
Posted By: Tres

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/01/15 04:23 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: Tres
Bellaire, not rabbits, planter boxes are 2 ft tall.


Drive out sometime. I'll give you some good slicers. I live just a couple of miles south of where Bellaire ends.


Mighty kind of you Bill, I'll do that some time.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/01/15 06:00 PM

Some of my bell peppers are starting to turn color. I always look forward to colored peppers.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/15 10:24 PM

Good or bad?

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/15 10:52 PM

looks like leaf footed bugs to me, bad. pick them off and drown them in soapy water, wear gloves.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/15 11:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
looks like leaf footed bugs to me, bad. pick them off and drown them in soapy water, wear gloves.


Hey Payne, did you know that you had one of the longest running threads on this forum?

Also, I think those bugs are some form of stink bug.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/15 11:32 PM

Thanks Payne.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/15 11:36 PM

It's my greatest achievement in life Mr Oxner, thank you for participating.


You're welcome Cman, good luck
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/15 11:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Chickenman
Good or bad?




Don't kill them!! They look more like baby assassin bugs, very beneficial if that is what they are.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/15 11:49 PM

assassin bug




leaf footed bug


Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/15 11:49 PM

Derek on the fishing forum said those are either assassin bugs or the leaf foot. I don't know.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/15 12:01 AM

Either way, they're dead.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/15 12:02 AM

If you still have the tomato, look at this spot in the black circle. It looks like where they were eating, if so they are the leaf footed bugs.


Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/15 12:12 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
assassin bug




leaf footed bug




Better photos than I found, kill the mofo's peep
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/15 03:34 PM

Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/15 03:53 PM

Looking good Payne. I'm a bit behind compared to you but my stuff is coming along pretty quick.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/15 04:48 PM

Half of my tomatoes drowned but the ones that survived are loaded and starting to turn. Plums are almost done, great year for them.
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/15 01:57 AM

I have ton of green tomatoes, there just not turning red. This is the first week we have had much sun hope that helps.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/15 02:33 PM

Originally Posted By: wilhunt
I have ton of green tomatoes, there just not turning red. This is the first week we have had much sun hope that helps.


We've all been there. It seems as if they start backing up.

I'm making my second and last batch of salsa this morning. I processed too many tomatoes. I plan to dip out a quart and freeze them. A couple of my tomato plants are now barren. I pulled up one yesterday.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/15 03:14 PM

It's crazy how much different it is just a few hours south. I have only had 3 ripe tomatoes so far but on my 10 celebrity plants and one Big Beef, there are over 80 tomatoes as big or bigger than baseballs, they are going to all ripen at once I'm sure, but that's fine, I like having a bunch at once for making salsa. I can usually keep my garden producing through mid July / 1st of August. I hope I can again this year too since I got a little bit of a late start.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/15 04:55 PM

I didn't even do a taste test on my first batch of salsa. I used two jalapeos per pint. I did the same today and took a taste test with a chip. I got the same heat that I once did with four jalapeos per pint. I don't think the jalapeos are that much hotter. The size of the peppers has doubled over the last few years.

I'm looking at the same thing with my bell peppers. They're almost the size of a pint jar.

I need to give some of my big slicer tomatoes away. I just can't make myself cook with them. They're still precious to me.
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/15 01:37 PM

What is your recipe for the salsa you make?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/15 01:53 PM

I use this;



Plus two 12 ounce cans of tomato paste, salt, sugar, and vinegar. Put the tomato paste in at the end of cooking or it will stick and bubble. I process the tomatoes, jalapenos and onions and cook until the onions have lost their color. I dip into pint jars and boil them for around 30 minutes.

I make and freeze marinara about the same way except with a lot less jalapenos, added bell peppers, and Italian seasoning. I cool the marinara, dip into pint bags and freeze. I often add yellow squash and zucchini to my marinara.
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/15 07:25 PM

Thanks for the recipe sir.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/15 02:33 PM

With the rain, I am behind the 8 ball, just planted my okra, squash and zucs, should do fine in the heat. Half my tomatoes drowned, put them on the low end thinking it would supply better moisture, wasn't expecting 15" of rain blush

Looks like I will be picking the 1st planting of hybrid sweet corn in around 8-10 days. Got to get some mineral oil and a couple syringes and get those ears doctored!
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/15 02:50 PM

Crappy cell photo of the Sugar Dots hybrid.

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/15 09:58 PM

I'm making stuffed bell peppers tomorrow. I needed to pick a pepper for my salad tonight. I tried to find an irregular one so as not to waste my perfect peppers for stuffing. It took me awhile. I have some awesome bell peppers this year. They're changing colors. I'll let some get red to color my chow-chow. Then I'll be done.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/15 09:07 PM

I'm done. I just put up 5 pints of chow-chow. I added a yellow squash to this batch. I still have plenty of big slicer tomatoes. I live on a dead end street and not many cars come by. I guess I'll have to start knocking on doors to give away tomatoes. Here's my chow-chow from my file;

Posted By: Cast

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/15 09:39 PM

Bill, try stuffing those maters. They freeze well.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/15 09:58 PM

I froze a half dozen stuffed peppers this morning. I'm done.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/15 07:20 PM

That's crazy. I'm just getting started good.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/15 07:33 PM

same here CC
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/15 08:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
same here CC


You've been posting vegetable pictures on here for two weeks or more.

I bought my plants early but had to hold up on planting them because of freeze warnings.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/15 09:01 PM

I've only had a few grape, roma and cherry tomatoes
, I got a late start because of the rain. Still haven't had an eggplant yet.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/15 10:57 PM

I think my peach tree is about to die.

With all the rain we got, the peaches got moldy before they were ready. Now the tree is drying up.


Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/15 11:00 PM

That sucks, I lost an apricot tree from the rain. I'm going to see if it bounces back before I remove the tree.


congrats 15%
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/15 12:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
That sucks, I lost an apricot tree from the rain. I'm going to see if it bounces back before I remove the tree.


congrats 15%


From your experience, will "flood" conditions kill a peach tree? My tree is also on the border of the leach field.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/15 12:50 AM

yes sir, a peach tree will drown.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/15 03:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
I've only had a few grape, roma and cherry tomatoes
, I got a late start because of the rain. Still haven't had an eggplant yet.


Same here, only I can add 3 Celebrities to the list. I am covered up in Japs already, had a few Banana peppers and one bell. I have a few Squash that will be ready next week. Have picked 3 ripe Pickling cucumbers too. I hope they keep long enough for me to get more ripened so I can make a few jars of pickles.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/15 06:05 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Originally Posted By: Payne
I've only had a few grape, roma and cherry tomatoes
, I got a late start because of the rain. Still haven't had an eggplant yet.


Same here, only I can add 3 Celebrities to the list. I am covered up in Japs already, had a few Banana peppers and one bell. I have a few Squash that will be ready next week. Have picked 3 ripe Pickling cucumbers too. I hope they keep long enough for me to get more ripened so I can make a few jars of pickles.


I shopped for celebrity's at Home Depot. They had only one six pack, so I got a six pack of Better Boys to go along with them. They both did fine, but the better boys did the best. I've had the least stink bug damage in years.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/15 08:12 PM

My tomatos are just somewhat bigger than golf balls at this point. I lost two plants due to the flood, and the weeds nearly took over. Things are getting back to normal, and I should have some red ones soon.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/15 09:58 PM

Finished canning some plum jelly earlier. I'm canning jalapenos with carrots, onions and garlic now.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/15 12:57 PM

Canned six qt of pickles yesterday. Saw a couple sugar baby WM about the size of softballs while in the garden. Corn looking good so far, got the 1st planting tassels oiled Sunday.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/15 02:51 PM

My tomatoes aren't going to produce this year. The cherry & grape tomatoes are fine but the celebritys are hurting bad from all the rain. Got my first eggplants today.




the girls have been busy keeping it bug free, no horn worms so far.

Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/15 03:16 PM

I call p fowl on Payne! That's enough veggies to start a roadside stand, all I have got so far is cucs, and peppers bang Ditto on the celebrities, doubt I will get one this year.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/15 03:59 PM

That sucks. My Celebrities are loaded full. Already have birds that hit a couple that I let get red on the vine. I'm pulling them at first blush from here on out. Pulled about 10 or so yesterday and will have at least that many today. Some of the biggest I have ever had too.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/15 04:41 PM

I don't think you lose a thing by picking them a first blush. I did with all my bottom and middle crop. My top crop is now ripening on the vine. I've brought my last one in the house, except for salads and slicing. I have a couple quarts of creole sauce going now. I'll freeze it. I'm totally done processing tomatoes. I'm glad I went from 24 down to 12 tomato plants.
Posted By: ttubudd

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/15 07:20 PM

Just put together a 4'x4' raised bed over the weekend. need to get it filled up in the next few days. I figure I'm probably late to start tomatos, peppers, etc from seed? What should I plant now?

Also, where do you guys get your seeds?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/15 07:35 PM

okra and peppers, burpees or the feed store for seeds.
Posted By: Frenzy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/15 07:53 PM

Do those peacocks not eat the veggies?
Posted By: ttubudd

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/15 08:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
okra and peppers, burpees or the feed store for seeds.


Thanks amigo!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/15 08:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Frenzy
Do those peacocks not eat the veggies?



they'll peck at what hits the ground but not off the plant.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/15 02:37 PM

Progress of my city farming in North Texas...

Prep began on the new garden Feb 21st. New casa, so new garden.. went 16x16..


Planted around the second to thrid week of March..from West to East, i planted corn to help with the late evening sun, okra, green beans, cherry tomatos + peppers, and last, my squash and cucumbers..

Apri 24th..Progress delayed with lack of sunshine..


We've made nice progress over the last two weeks with all of this sunshine..


I've never grown corn before and really just wanted to help with the evening heat, but i've enjoyed watching it take off. Should be ready to pick pretty soon.. We've been picking a little squash (straight neck), green beans, peppers, and buckets of tomatos. Just picked my first handfull of okra last night.. should be an interesting end of month through july..
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/15 02:48 PM

That is awesome, nice job.
Posted By: BuckRage

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/15 02:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
That is awesome, nice job.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/15 03:26 PM

Thank your sir. I planted a plumb tree in the back this spring. It's not looking all that great but I think it will survive. It's been whipped around like a rag doll back in May with all those storms. We shall see
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/15 03:27 PM

what kind of plum?
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/15 03:30 PM

I can't recall. Bought here at a calloways. All I know is it's self pollinating, so no issues there. Haven't seen any bugs on it, just loosing a fair amount of leaves though. I'm thinking it's just a little stress
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/15 03:31 PM

Maybe too much water with the rains?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/15 03:36 PM

yes sir, I lost an apricot this year from the rains but I've had a bumper year with the plums. Are the leaves yellowing?
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/15 03:40 PM

Turning yellow to red then falling off.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/15 03:42 PM

thats not good but it might bounce back. just give it time
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/15 03:53 PM

Originally Posted By: BuckRage
Originally Posted By: Payne
That is awesome, nice job.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/15 04:16 PM

Thanks. Things started out slow. I'm guessing due to the cooler temps and massive amounts of rain, but when summer turned on, so did the plants. Hard to believe we had 5-6" of snow on the ground during the first week of March.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/15 06:18 PM

I have a second crop of peppers coming on. I'll plan to keep a few peppers and plow everything else up.
Posted By: Tres

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/17/15 02:21 AM

My peppers, squash and eggplant are doing good. Tomato plants are about to be compost.
Posted By: ttubudd

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/17/15 01:06 PM



Just build this bed. Got a really late start, but transplanted some peppers and tomatos. Planted a few more seeds, not sure how they'll do with all the rain we're getting right now.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/17/15 05:21 PM

4th of July's are coming in strong. About 15 days late though. Strange.

Assassin bug? I counted 12. Bad pictures I know. Bill was parked over Denton when I went out there.


Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/17/15 05:28 PM

http://bigthicketcritters.com/StinkAssasBug.html
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/15 05:42 PM

Getting there.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/15 06:30 PM

looks great
Posted By: Frenzy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/15 07:28 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Getting there.



Wow! My maters really sucked this year. Planted 3 celebrities and I think the rain in May stunted them. Last 2 weeks they've actually started to grow though.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/15 07:40 PM

Looks as if you are already there CC. Salsa time.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/15 07:57 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Getting there.



Man that looks great! Except for that basket. grin
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/15 08:26 PM

I like the basket. I don't like to keep my tomatoes on the blossom end.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/15 09:26 PM

Originally Posted By: skinnerback
Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Getting there.



Man that looks great! Except for that basket. grin


Told her I was getting a can of green spray paint and painting it.

She threatened bodily harm if I did sooo...
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/15 09:55 PM

five gallon bucket....
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/15 02:36 AM

Better picture of the bug...

Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/15 03:08 AM

Looks like a leaf footed bug Cman
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/15 03:32 AM

Originally Posted By: Hancock
Looks like a leaf footed bug Cman


I think it is too. There are only about a thousand in the garden. Not sure what to spray.
Posted By: SapperTitan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/15 03:34 AM

Who wants to send me some homemade salsa to test for them? Ill find something to send in return. LOL
Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/15 03:36 AM

Might try a citrus oil spray on the tomato plants

http://www.dirtdoctor.com/Orange-Oil_vq1369.htm
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/15 11:53 AM

Originally Posted By: Chickenman
Originally Posted By: Hancock
Looks like a leaf footed bug Cman


I think it is too. There are only about a thousand in the garden. Not sure what to spray.



napalm
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/15 05:11 PM

Won't seven dust killem?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/15 05:48 PM

Posted By: BuckRage

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/15 08:41 PM

roflmao
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/15 09:12 PM

rofl
Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/15 09:30 PM

My garden is over run with nut grass this year. Just drenched it with molasses and took a before pic. We'll see if this really works.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/15 01:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne


Oh come on, a little seven dust aint gonna hurt ya. I put too much work into my garden to let some bugs eat it. I had something chewing the heck out of my pepper plant leaves so I sprinkled a little seven dust on them one evening then rinsed it off the next morning. No more bugs.

So, what is a good natural bug killer / deterrent?
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/15 01:14 PM

CCBIRDDOGMAN, I have mentioned it several times in the thread and this stuff works great for me and others I know. Spinosad concentrate if you can find it, you can buy some at Lowes , Captain Jacks iirc. Some farm stores carry it and of course online. Works best for chewing type bugs.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/15 04:32 PM

Several have asked over the years why early tomatoes are so important to me? Most of my neighbor's tomatoes came in a couple of weeks behind me. They're all through just like mine now is. I have one ripe tomato in my frig. I have a few small green one on the vines, but they won't make it all the way. I have tomatoes a couple of weeks longer.

I have a very good second crop of jalapeos. I plan to pickle a pint of them soon. I till up my entire garden soon.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/15 08:09 PM

I have had better luck with my fall garden with tomatoes than spring ... I merely keep watering my plants 2-3 times a week and by mid Sept. they start blooming all over again. but yes, I try to get em in the ground as early as possible in the spring depending no the weather.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/15 10:31 AM

Started picking corn, blanching and freezing yesterday.

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/15 01:01 PM

That corn really looks good. My neighbor brought me 15 ears, but they were not as big. I just took off the bigger husk, chopped off each end and froze it like that. I haven tried the frozen corn yet.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/15 01:23 PM

Bill, they have studies that super sweet corn, (Not sure if my SE is SS) can be froze unblanched for 8 months without flavor loss, as long as it goes str8 from field to freezer, so you should have some great meals out of it.
I pick mine and immediately get it blanched to stop the enzymes and lock in the flavor, we have been eating some that taste fresh and is 12 months old.
Posted By: Cast

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/15 07:21 PM

Bill, take one with husks from the freezer right to the grill. When the husks start coming off and then get translucent it's ready.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/15 11:30 PM

Been a busy morning, made 2 jars of pickles (pretty much used Ox's recipe) then made 14 pints of salsa.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/15 11:51 PM

Those onions look hand chopped. I like it better that way but I started using the processor for everything. I can tell that all your jars clicked from looking at the picture. They become precious to me. How about you?

I'm back on breakfast tacos. Thy the salsa on one of those. They take a minute in the microwave.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/15 12:14 AM

They are like gold to me Bill. How long should I leave the pickles before trying? These are my first.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/15 12:19 AM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
They are like gold to me Bill. How long should I leave the pickles before trying? These are my first.


The pickles have turned color. They're ready. They should taste like fresh deli dills. Try some spears next.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/15 01:08 AM

They really haven't changed colors don't they need to set a couple of weeks? Or not? I just made them this morning.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/15 01:37 AM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
They really haven't changed colors don't they need to set a couple of weeks? Or not? I just made them this morning.


It won't hurt to try them tomorrow. You can break the seal on pickles.
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/15 07:14 PM

I have a bumper crop of green bell peppers. They have started to turn light red, is that due to so much sunlight?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/15 07:57 PM

Originally Posted By: wilhunt
I have a bumper crop of green bell peppers. They have started to turn light red, is that due to so much sunlight?


That just what they do when they mature. They will soon turn dark red.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/12/15 11:51 AM




The wife did a little harvesting yesterday morning. The rain has been relentless this year, and causing things to be abnormal. That is fine by me, we need it. I had most of my peppers drown, and the tomatoes turned red when there were small. The cherry tomatoes however got real big.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/15/15 11:33 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Been a busy morning, made 2 jars of pickles (pretty much used Ox's recipe) then made 14 pints of salsa.


Did you ever try the pickles?
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/16/15 02:55 PM

Yes sir. They are awesome. Making a couple more jars this evening. They were best after being in the fridge for a week or so after we opened them. Thanks Mr. Bill.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/15 12:04 AM

Well fellas, picked 2 of the best watermelons I have ever grown. Have the shorter one in the fridge, bottom one weighs just over 20# at 20" lenght!

We had to cut the one to get it in there and tried it hot out of the garden, damn good! cant wait to try it cold!!! I cant even recall what kind we planted other than the sugar babies, have 3 kinds.


Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/15 12:45 AM

Originally Posted By: Western
Well fellas, picked 2 of the best watermelons I have ever grown. Have the shorter one in the fridge, bottom one weighs just over 20# at 20" lenght!

We had to cut the one to get it in there and tried it hot out of the garden, damn good! cant wait to try it cold!!! I cant even recall what kind we planted other than the sugar babies, have 3 kinds.




This reminds me of growing up on a cotton farm in Arkansas. We chopped cotton in the spring, and always carried a few watermelon seeds. We'd plant our skips with watermelon. We picked cotton in the fall. We had cool mornings. We would crack the watermelons in the field and eat just the heart out.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/15 01:41 AM

Bill, that sounds like some of my youth in Arkansas (N of Harrison off hwy 6) We either had 40 acres of tomatoes, potatoes or corn, then started into sugarcane for the sorghum mill my grandfather built. We wold pick a few melons out of the family garden and put them in the creek to chill, great memories.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/15 01:57 PM

I love watermelon, I like it just as much warm as I do cold. My parents owned some land in East Texas through my entire childhood and we spent almost every weekend and all summer there, we had a watermelon farm that backed up to us, landowner told us to help ourselves as long as we were eating them. Black Diamonds. Good times.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/24/15 06:01 PM

I have one very kind neighbor who still has tomatoes. I got a half dozen from his garden this morning. I bought my fist bell pepper this morning.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/24/15 06:18 PM

I am still watering and keeping stuff alive. Maters aren't producing much right now but still some. jalapenos and banana peppers are still doing good. I didn't get hardly any Bell peppers (8 plants - 4 green & 4 red) but the plants are still looking good and have a few blooms so I will probably get some fall bell peppers. My squash did zero (1 edible squash - 4 plants) again this year but pickles are going crazy still.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/24/15 06:28 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
I am still watering and keeping stuff alive. Maters aren't producing much right now but still some. jalapenos and banana peppers are still doing good. I didn't get hardly any Bell peppers (8 plants - 4 green & 4 red) but the plants are still looking good and have a few blooms so I will probably get some fall bell peppers. My squash did zero (1 edible squash - 4 plants) again this year but pickles are going crazy still.


You can use that same recipe to cold pack some in a ziplock gallon bag. It will hold a couple of dozen. Just let your brine cool to lukewarm before pouring over the cucumbers.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/24/15 06:47 PM

I got me a crinkle slicer and been slicing em and packing jars full. My parents and my wife can put em away quick, they love em. I still have some jars, I brought about 10 back from my parents house the other day. I was like dang, y'all are breaking me, when I saw how many of my jars they had. It's all good, they won't be here forever, gonna enjoy em while I have em.
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/24/15 07:27 PM

Learned a lot from the the gardeners here on this forum this year. Saw some great tomatos and peppers and then got enthused about what you guys were canning. Had a great crop of bell peppers and sweet banana peppers. We made 6 pints of salsa first time ever and 16 pints of tomatos. My grandparents use to do a lot of canning but I never had and the wife had no exposure at all. We feel we got off to a good start this year and are looking forward to a fall garden.
Thanks again to all.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/24/15 09:41 PM

Originally Posted By: wilhunt
Learned a lot from the the gardeners here on this forum this year. Saw some great tomatos and peppers and then got enthused about what you guys were canning. Had a great crop of bell peppers and sweet banana peppers. We made 6 pints of salsa first time ever and 16 pints of tomatos. My grandparents use to do a lot of canning but I never had and the wife had no exposure at all. We feel we got off to a good start this year and are looking forward to a fall garden.
Thanks again to all.


You can freeze all your tomato products except the salsa. I freeze marinara, and creole sauce. You can use almost any of your vegetables to make stewed tomatoes and freeze them.
Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/26/15 10:20 PM


Tabasco plant is looking good.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/27/15 01:09 AM

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/27/15 01:46 PM

How did your onions do?
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/27/15 02:22 PM

Most of my onions rotted with all the early rain. Didnt get anything bigger than a golf ball. not even sure if I'm going to waste the space on them next year. I have so many produce stands close to my house, I think I am better off just buying them.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/27/15 02:29 PM

My onions were below average this year. I'll keep trying. I get a lot of milage out of the. I'd be down to just two rows if I gave up onions and potatoes.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/27/15 02:42 PM

I know I'll plant some. I always do. but I think I try to get too many into a small area.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/28/15 01:02 AM

Onions were tough this year. I did happen to harvest three five gallon buckets of tennis ball size to baseball size. They are not storing well though. It must have been the solid month of rain they got pummeled with. I will however take a bad onion crop in trade for the rain.
Posted By: Sparky45

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/06/15 02:46 AM

FREAKING SQUASH BUGS!!!!!NOOOOOOOO


sevin dust does not work, NEEM oil does. finally getting them under control
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/06/15 03:57 PM

I use a small propane torch and take their legs out, but you have to move fast. They are bad this year along with Cucumber beetles.
Posted By: HillCountryHotRodMan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/06/15 06:48 PM

I was wondering if anyone has pumpkins in the ground this year? Wanted to start some but it may be too late for them to reach full maturity by Halloween. Thanks
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/06/15 06:52 PM

Originally Posted By: HillCountryHotRodMan
I was wondering if anyone has pumpkins in the ground this year? Wanted to start some but it may be too late for them to reach full maturity by Halloween. Thanks


I'd say your a month late, they usually need a 100 days or so, but seed is cheap so..
Posted By: HillCountryHotRodMan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/06/15 07:00 PM

Thanks, that's what I thought. Maybe I'll just get some radish, lettuce and another set of bush beans going.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/06/15 07:20 PM

Originally Posted By: HillCountryHotRodMan
Thanks, that's what I thought. Maybe I'll just get some radish, lettuce and another set of bush beans going.


If you like broccoli, cabbage, brussel sprouts and cauliflower, may look into those.
Posted By: HillCountryHotRodMan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/06/15 07:34 PM

Heck yeah.... and I figure it is way too hot down here to fire up the lettuce right now LOL
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/06/15 09:41 PM

I've planted broccoli and cauliflower seeds in a small area at this time of the year and kept them watered with my dripper hose. They were ready for transplanting by mid September. That's a good time to get your fall garden in. I like to catch the first good September rain for most of my fall garden.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/08/15 12:19 AM

Plant cilantro around the edges.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/10/15 01:04 AM

This weekends harvest.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/11/15 12:25 AM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
This weekends harvest.



You're still looking good. Pickle some of those jalapeos.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/11/15 01:28 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
This weekends harvest.



up
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/26/15 02:15 AM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
This weekends harvest.



Looks good, Kevin. Gonna can those jalapenos?
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/26/15 01:06 PM

Originally Posted By: skeeter22
Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
This weekends harvest.



Looks good, Kevin. Gonna can those jalapenos?


I can some, eat some, give some away, little bit of everything. I haven't really had enough at once to be able to can very many though (only 2 jars). But they are still producing. Maters have pretty much stopped putting anything out and I have pulled all but four or five Celebrity plants. Trying to keep them alive and see if they will spit out more maters this fall. I've never been successful at doing it but my plants still look pretty good, so maybe this year?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/04/15 08:48 PM

fall garden







Posted By: BuckRage

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/04/15 09:14 PM

flehan
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/05/15 12:49 AM

What all are you planting?

Looks great.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/05/15 01:14 AM

Payne looks like he has a little overkill.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/05/15 01:16 AM

broccoli, brussel sprouts, cauliflower and cabbage so far

I was doing food plots and the tiller was cutting out on me so I thought overkill was appropriate

this happened a little while ago



good clean living..
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/05/15 01:29 AM

That should make the local widder wimmins happy.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/05/15 10:46 AM

Damn Payne, now that's a "tiller"! up ,or maybe your garden is just really tiny grin Already time to start our fall gardens, crap I need more time bang
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/05/15 07:48 PM

I really hadn't planned on much of a fall garden, but a couple of showers, and I have cilantro.

Posted By: Cast

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/05/15 08:01 PM

That looks like the beginnings of a great breakfast taco right there Bill.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/06/15 01:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Cast
That looks like the beginnings of a great breakfast taco right there Bill.


I have it al around the edge of my garden.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/06/15 02:21 AM

Payne don't play.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/07/15 11:35 PM

I'm planting some mixed turnips, and mustards tomorrow before the predicted rains.

Cathy and her friend go to whole foots and buy kale. Have any of you ever raised that?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/07/15 11:41 PM

I have, it's good and good for you. if you like cabbage more than likely you'll like kale.
Posted By: Cast

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/08/15 12:28 AM

Kale is nasty and gives me terrible indigestion.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/08/15 05:38 PM

You would think that you could find turnip seeds at the feed starlet or at Walmart this time of the year, but no, I had to make three stops.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/09/15 01:54 PM

I planted them a few minutes ago and just raked them in. Come on rain.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/09/15 02:53 PM

our local Home Depot has quite a selection of seed packets, yours might too ... for future reference
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/18/15 03:43 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I planted them a few minutes ago and just raked them in. Come on rain.


They're coming up. This is where I planted them. I can't tell them apart at this age.




Basil anyone?

Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/18/15 04:02 PM

Your "basil" looks like my mint plants, that would be confusing if they where side by side.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/18/15 04:03 PM

Payne,
do we need to do anything to the grapes right now, or let them ride?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/18/15 04:13 PM

prune and add new mulch to the base
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/18/15 04:17 PM

Prune this early? OK, I just watered them and they look much better than ones I tried in the past. Have not fertilized and glad I didn't after you warm=ned me, 1st year plants and one has grown 8' arms The purple grape, green grape has done well, but not near as long of growth but "bushier"

Thanks

BTY, How much would you prune? 30%, 50%?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/18/15 04:35 PM

Wait until they're dormant
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/24/15 02:34 PM

Looks as if I can start using cilantro from my garden anytime now.




Spacing is difficult when you broadcast mustard and turnip seeds by hand, but it looks like I got them about right this year.

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/13/15 02:15 PM

Looks as if I have this thread all to myself. My mustard greens are ready when I am. I need to pick up some ham hocks on my next shopping trip. You can see some of the lighter colored turnips mixed in.




I've been using and giving away cilantro for a couple of weeks. Il use these for my fajitas tonight.


Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/13/15 03:08 PM

Looks good Bill. I was able to keep a few Tomato plants alive and they are covered with green maters right now. I don't know if they will turn red before they freeze & die or not.
Posted By: Featherduster

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/14/15 02:44 PM

Very nice

I've got some summer squash, zucchini, and green beans coming along nicely. Even got a couple squash producing as of yesterday.

I planted some brussel sprouts, collards, and cabbage 10 days ago and nothing has came up.

Will the heat keep those cool weathered greens from sprouting?

I know heat isn't their thing, but I would of thought they would of at least came up.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/15/15 12:40 AM

Originally Posted By: Featherduster
Very nice

I've got some summer squash, zucchini, and green beans coming along nicely. Even got a couple squash producing as of yesterday.

I planted some brussel sprouts, collards, and cabbage 10 days ago and nothing has came up.

Will the heat keep those cool weathered greens from sprouting?

I know heat isn't their thing, but I would of thought they would of at least came up.


My greens came up in this heat. I kept them moist with a dripper. Hang in there.
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/15/15 11:00 PM

Wanting to plant a fall garden but we have not had any rain since the 4th of July. Under a burn ban and extreme drought.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/16/15 11:10 PM

You can still buy some winter vegetables and hand water them in. Rain is on the way.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/02/15 09:04 PM

our tomato plants that we planted in the spring have started producing the fall crops after being dormant (or almost) since the heat of the summer.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/02/15 10:00 PM

Yep, I'm getting some maters too. Got tired of the banana peppers so I yanked them. Still have bells and jalapeno too.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/02/15 11:02 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Looks good Bill. I was able to keep a few Tomato plants alive and they are covered with green maters right now. I don't know if they will turn red before they freeze & die or not.

x2 - I keep tomatoes alive thru summer & get a better crop of tomatoes in the fall.
When a freeze approaches, pick all the green matters, and wrap individually in newspaper; keep in garage or porch (keep from freezing), and after a few weeks, check for ripened ones, and re-wrap ones still green; we get about 2-3 months of fresh 'RIPE' tomatoes thru the late fall / early winter this way!!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/03/15 12:24 AM

I've heard that it works to pull up the entire stalk by the roots and hang it up side down Ina shed. I've never tried it.

The thing is that the hard freezes come roaring through, and makes it tough to get out to your garden.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/16/15 04:43 PM

Looks as if I have this thread all to myself.

I pulled up these turnips a little early but I need to start making some cornbread dishes, so I can save cornbread for thanksgiving. Mustards and turnips fall into that category. That's what's on the menu tonight, along with, black eyed peas, and fried pork chops.

Posted By: NewGulf

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/16/15 05:08 PM

i love turnips...you ever eat them raw Bill?
Posted By: Cast

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/16/15 05:22 PM

How do you prep your turnips? I've been craving them for some time.

You ever do rudabakers?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/16/15 05:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Cast
How do you prep your turnips? I've been craving them for some time.

You ever do rudabakers?


I made my stock using ham hocks when I picked my first mustard greens. I simply peel the turnips and dice them before adding them to my stock. I cook them about 15 minutes and then add my greens. I will include some turnip tops with my mustard greens tonight.

Never done rudabakers..
Posted By: Cast

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/16/15 05:37 PM

They're a little stronger than purple tops and they're yellow meated. I like them stewed with bacon drippings but they need some sugar. They're really good in soups.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/16/15 05:38 PM

I like turnips in my hot and sour soup.
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/17/15 02:21 AM

Looking good Bill, enjoy.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/23/15 05:23 PM

My turnips are getting bigger and the mustard greens are beautiful.



Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/23/15 07:58 PM

up
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/24/15 09:01 PM

Got home and noticed a "black" spot in my garden! Then remembered it was my sweet potatoes. Ground a bit damp, but rain is coming, so out came the shovel, Photo is the "1st bucket load", 8oz coffee cup for reference, some are fricken huge!. Letting them dry so I can get most the dirt off, then will let them cure there for 10 days.

Posted By: TimOub007

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/28/15 03:47 PM

I'm a little late (hunting got in the way) but I finally got my onion sets in the ground yesterday. Two rows, about 15 feet long. One set for each row, 10\15 Y and an improved version of the same per the feed store. Following a different, detailed method of planting this year as I have never been very successful with onions.

How long do they typically take to fully bulb?

T
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/28/15 04:47 PM

Those sweet potatoes look great. I bought some for thanksgiving and baked them with olive oil with maple syrup.

Onions are good to start using when they first start bulbing. They're usually mature at Memorial day.

This is about the last of my garden except for the cilantro.

Posted By: TimOub007

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/28/15 09:21 PM

Thanks for the reply Bill.

Tim
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/12/15 12:07 AM

Made up my onion row this morning, and plowed a furrow for my potatoes. Looking for onion sets and seed potatoes in a couple of weeks.
Posted By: Cast

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/12/15 02:44 PM

What types of onions and taters you want. I'll keep my eyes open for them.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/12/15 08:38 PM

That's kind of you to offer. I'll be able to find them here.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/05/16 07:14 PM

I got to Home Depot just as they were unloading the truck. I got some beautiful 1015Y onions and purple onions. They are already in the ground.




I'll cut this bunch of cilantro to go with my fajitas tonight.

Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/05/16 09:43 PM

up
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/06/16 12:22 AM

the wife and I went thru out little garden and pruned peach & plum trees last weekend. chopped back the asparagus, pulled up all but two tomato plants (that are still producing, even have blooms). Our little peach tree that has produced dozens of peaches the last two out of three years (freeze got it in '14) already has little buds popping out (Sam Houston variety).
Posted By: HOF

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/06/16 03:12 AM

Okay THF garden gurus. Green house is built. What do I need to get going. Peach trees are between 1 and 3 years. Pruning this week. When and how much and what kind of fertilizer do I need to put on them?
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/06/16 11:27 AM

Originally Posted By: HOF
Okay THF garden gurus. Green house is built. What do I need to get going. Peach trees are between 1 and 3 years. Pruning this week. When and how much and what kind of fertilizer do I need to put on them?


If it where me, I'd get soil samples done. I planted my fruit trees with out one a couple years ago, when I finally got around to it (for the trees and the garden), I was shocked at how different the requirements where. The trees need a more specific diet, as the garden needed copious amounts of potassium, 0 pot ash and light N.

The fruit trees needed additional iron and sulfur iirc.

I am surprised I didn't get the SS prior to planting, I am generally pretty hard core on knowing what I need as close as possible and the test is "dirt" cheap grin sorry for the pun.

Here is the link to the A&M home page for lab test, the forms and sample info , are on the links at the bottom of the page. Each of my SS usually run under $20 and take 10-14 days to get back.

http://soiltesting.tamu.edu/


BTW, I fertilized my fruit trees last in late Oct, using my last SS, I put around 1-1/2 cups of 2-20-10 roughly, side dressed with a couple tablespoons of iron.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/06/16 11:29 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I got to Home Depot just as they were unloading the truck. I got some beautiful 1015Y onions and purple onions. They are already in the ground.




I'll cut this bunch of cilantro to go with my fajitas tonight.




Dang Bill, those are good looking onion stock!, I don't even think they are out up here yet, but will start looking. Your dirt sure looks great too up
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/06/16 11:36 AM

Some of you mentioned "pruning", I went to prune my trees yesterday and somehow my pruners seemed to have walked off bang Looked for 2 hrs almost, finally figured they "walked off" mad

That's OK, they where an older pair of anvil cutters, so I went online and ordered myself a new set of Felco 220 loppers and a Felco #2 hand shears. Word to the wise....Although Felco is probably in the "best" category and made in Switzerland, don't shop online when you're PO'd blush

I should be happy with them though, was one of the only Brands my Grandfather used in his orchard, well actually what my uncles where made to use.
Posted By: HOF

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/06/16 01:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: HOF
Okay THF garden gurus. Green house is built. What do I need to get going. Peach trees are between 1 and 3 years. Pruning this week. When and how much and what kind of fertilizer do I need to put on them?


If it where me, I'd get soil samples done. I planted my fruit trees with out one a couple years ago, when I finally got around to it (for the trees and the garden), I was shocked at how different the requirements where. The trees need a more specific diet, as the garden needed copious amounts of potassium, 0 pot ash and light N.

The fruit trees needed additional iron and sulfur iirc.

I am surprised I didn't get the SS prior to planting, I am generally pretty hard core on knowing what I need as close as possible and the test is "dirt" cheap grin sorry for the pun.

Here is the link to the A&M home page for lab test, the forms and sample info , are on the links at the bottom of the page. Each of my SS usually run under $20 and take 10-14 days to get back.

http://soiltesting.tamu.edu/


BTW, I fertilized my fruit trees last in late Oct, using my last SS, I put around 1-1/2 cups of 2-20-10 roughly, side dressed with a couple tablespoons of iron.


I sent a soil sample to my co op in November in prep for sprigging costal this spring. They said all I need is fertilizer before I sprig. I assume the same would hold true for my trees.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/06/16 01:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I got to Home Depot just as they were unloading the truck. I got some beautiful 1015Y onions and purple onions. They are already in the ground.




I'll cut this bunch of cilantro to go with my fajitas tonight.




Dang Bill, those are good looking onion stock!, I don't even think they are out up here yet, but will start looking. Your dirt sure looks great too up


I got lucky. I didn't water them in as you can see. I just wasn't in the mood. We got a little rain last night.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/06/16 01:47 PM

Originally Posted By: HOF
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: HOF
Okay THF garden gurus. Green house is built. What do I need to get going. Peach trees are between 1 and 3 years. Pruning this week. When and how much and what kind of fertilizer do I need to put on them?


If it where me, I'd get soil samples done. I planted my fruit trees with out one a couple years ago, when I finally got around to it (for the trees and the garden), I was shocked at how different the requirements where. The trees need a more specific diet, as the garden needed copious amounts of potassium, 0 pot ash and light N.

The fruit trees needed additional iron and sulfur iirc.

I am surprised I didn't get the SS prior to planting, I am generally pretty hard core on knowing what I need as close as possible and the test is "dirt" cheap grin sorry for the pun.

Here is the link to the A&M home page for lab test, the forms and sample info , are on the links at the bottom of the page. Each of my SS usually run under $20 and take 10-14 days to get back.

http://soiltesting.tamu.edu/


BTW, I fertilized my fruit trees last in late Oct, using my last SS, I put around 1-1/2 cups of 2-20-10 roughly, side dressed with a couple tablespoons of iron.


I sent a soil sample to my co op in November in prep for sprigging costal this spring. They said all I need is fertilizer before I sprig. I assume the same would hold true for my trees.


Possibly, but fertilizer needed by coastal, is not the same that is needed by fruit trees per se, at least that has been my experience so far. I used to get SS for all my hay fields and depending on crop, I would get different recommendations.

You could just "guess" and put a cup of triple 13, or 15 around the drip line and hope for the best.

I will fertilize my trees around the end of Feb, 1st of March.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/06/16 01:48 PM

You sure did Bill, those almost look good enough as a side dish already!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/25/16 04:59 PM

I just planted 24 hills of potatoes. A dozen reds and a dozen whites. I only covered them a couple of inches, not because I think it's best, but because I gave out. I'm half done and through with the heavy lifting except getting the bag of 13/13/13 from my pickup to it's place in my garage. It's tough getting old.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/25/16 05:16 PM

Glad to see this thread again. Just turned the dirt over yesterday and did some weed prevention. Won't be long before we can get after these summer crops up here.

Sad to say my plumb tree didn't make it, so starting from scratch. Any tips before I go and buy a new tree? Is it too late to plant?
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/25/16 06:00 PM

keep the wood from the old plum tree ... makes some great smoking wood
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/25/16 09:48 PM

was outside around the garden yesterday, noticed my little peach tree is covered with the start of blooms again (mid January). Will have to keep a close eye on the weather from here on thru spring... The other peach tree (that I yanked out with FEL but wife made me replant outside the protection of the chainlink fence) shows no signs yet (it takes a lot of chill hours) nor the plum tree...
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/03/16 09:40 PM

I nominate a few young backs to go to Bill's place and help with some heavy lifting!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/16 12:20 AM

I picked up two six packs of Better Boy tomatoes at Home Depot this morning. There were several doubles in there. I plan to put them out the next time I get a ten day frost free forecast.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/16 02:15 AM

They didn't have celebrity?
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/16 04:08 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
They didn't have celebrity?


I thought that's all he plants?

I finally got my 2 rows of Onions in Saturday. I plan on starting my peppers next week, and my Homestead 24 tomatoes the first of March. I'm ready for some good tomatoes.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/16 06:12 PM

It's gonna be a few more weeks before I buy any plants. I always try to start way too early.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/16 06:24 PM

CC pm me an addy
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/16 06:33 PM

Originally Posted By: LonestarCobra
Originally Posted By: Payne
They didn't have celebrity?


I thought that's all he plants?

I finally got my 2 rows of Onions in Saturday. I plan on starting my peppers next week, and my Homestead 24 tomatoes the first of March. I'm ready for some good tomatoes.


They didn't have them on my first trip last year, so I picked a six pack of Better Boys. I later bought a six pack of Celebrities. The Better boys produced slightly better than the Celebrities. I decided to switch this year, not that I had a choice. I'm putting them in Thursday. We shall see what happens. I'm ready for some BLTs with my home cured bacon.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/16 06:39 PM

better taste or more tomatoes?
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/16 06:40 PM

I never get much out of better boys for some reason.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/16 07:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
better taste or more tomatoes?


It was slight, but produced a little longer and more tomatoes.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/16 09:27 PM

we haven't had much luck with Celebrities the past several years but cherry & grape tomatoes produced like wildfire. We have tried several other varieties over the years of the larger tomatoes without any outstanding results. We live in Georgetown, west side with ~12 inch elevated beds. Maybe we'll give the better boys a try ... any other full size that seem to produce better for ya'll?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/16 09:36 PM

I like one slice to cover my whole sandwich.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/16 02:17 AM

I like the taste of a Homestead better, but like Celebrity also. They like calcium, and if you don't have enough, they will tell you with the blossom rot. A little bit of lime in the hole at planting, and some Epsom salt when they set fruit will prevent it. I like the large slices also, my wife likes the little cherry variety, so I always grow one of those.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/16 07:13 PM

Dang. My feed store did have the lime. Guess ill pick up some Epsom salts tomorrow.

Epsom Salt - Twin Oaks
www.twinoaksonline.com Epsom_Salt
Prevent Garden Tomato Blossom End Rot with Epsom Salt ... go directly to the plant roots, and will be absorbed by the plant and stop future developing tomatoes from being afflicted by blossom end rot.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/16 11:31 PM

is blossom end rot where the blooms drop and never produces the tomato?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/16 11:52 PM




epsom salt works wonders just put a tablespoon around the plant.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/16 12:18 AM

Let the record show that I planted a dozen tomatoes today. I have three options if I get a frost forecast. I can cover them, turn on my droppers overnight, or pull them up and replant them with a heavy freeze forecast.
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/16 12:24 AM

Will you be planting more? What do you use for cover if frost is coming?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/16 12:41 AM

Originally Posted By: wilhunt
Will you be planting more? What do you use for cover if frost is coming?

I've cut back. This is it. I have some one gallon plastic planters for covering them.

It's difficult to to save them with a hard freeze.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/16 12:51 AM

How much did you pay for the six packs?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/16 01:49 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
How much did you pay for the six packs?

They were $2.87. I a total of 20 plants. I have some leftover. I don't think I lost a single plant last year.
Posted By: thecoach

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/16 01:59 AM

I always value yalls opinion and need more assistance. I have a lot of winter grass and weeds in my Bermuda grass at our new house what can I spray on it to kill the junk? Will roundup work with it be cooler?
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/16 02:03 AM

I'll be planting my jalapenos in a couple weeks.
Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/15/16 02:40 AM

Average last frost here in the metromess is March 15th. I already planted onions but will wait till later for peppers, tomatoes and others.
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/15/16 04:12 AM

I went ahead and put tomato and pepper plants out. We are supposed to have warm weather all next week. Hop it stays that way if not can you cover with black plastic?
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/15/16 02:24 PM

Originally Posted By: thecoach
I always value yalls opinion and need more assistance. I have a lot of winter grass and weeds in my Bermuda grass at our new house what can I spray on it to kill the junk? Will roundup work with it be cooler?


Round up will work best when the weed is actively growing from my experience, so may do real well on what is growing in your yard now (winter tolerant plants) It will also kill your grass, but if you do it soon enough, the Bermuda should still be brown and dormant enough to spot treat.

BTW, last year I did the same thing, I have a mixed grass going on, St aug and bermuda. Where I sprayed early grasses in or near the still green St aug, it killed it in the spray pattern.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/15/16 02:28 PM

Fellas, may have been posted here by now, but here is a great, updated last frost average over the whole state.

http://www.plantmaps.com/interactive-texas-last-frost-date-map.php
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/15/16 02:33 PM

Average frost date is not important but a simple guideline. The 10 day forecast is what I go by. I'm looking for 55 to 80 degrees for the next 10 days. I'll take my chance to get my first ripe tomatoes. I'll pull them up if I get a hard freeze forecast.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/15/16 02:50 PM

May not be important for your tomatoes, but many gardeners don't like loosing an early planting. If you had planted 50 tomatoes, I bet you would find average frost dates, somewhat more important.

I lost about 80% of my garden 2 years ago to a rouge last frost/freeze, just the loss of the "effort" was enough to remind me. I don't want to do that extra work again. BTW, I too watch the 10 day and long range forecast, 2 years ago, the frost was not predicted, just cool temps ( I posted in this thread somewhere iirc) I had corn up 6" and was able to save half after running to town for black felt covers in a roll. The other half I should have just tilled in.

I will wait, even though it is hard.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/16/16 12:30 AM

I cant count how many late April freezes have froze me out over the years. I did plant in late March in 2009 I believe, and it was 90 degrees for the entire month and then 100 until September. Brutal year.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/16/16 12:45 AM

Man its just too cheap to buy at the farmers market anymore from the locals for what we will eat.......I may plant some cherry tomatoes in a couple of pots for just munching on.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/16/16 01:54 AM

Do you can farmers market veggies??
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/16/16 10:04 PM

I pulled up an onion to use for garnish on my shrimp creole tonight and discovered that they are already bulbiing.

Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/16/16 11:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Do you can farmers market veggies??


Never canned anything in my life Payne......never saw the need. I might go 2-3 months in the winter without eating a vegetable/fruit/green stuff
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/17/16 01:24 AM

We put up some tomato's last year. First time ever for my wife to see or do this My mother and grandmother did it every year so I had some exposure. Not only was the food tasty but could not help but get a good feeling for what we had done.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/16 09:21 PM

We got an inch of rain last night. I awoke this morning and spied my potatoes peeking through the ground.



You can't tell much by looking at the tops, but my onions are staring to bulb.



My tomatoes are green and healthy. I wouldn't be surprised to see blooms within a couple of weeks with the 10 day forecast.




I could start a Mexican restaurant with my volunteer cilantro.




I had to show you this. It's a volunteer tomato that came up in the fall in my flower bed on the south side of my house. It didn't do much over the winner and got stung by the frost a couple of times. It was looking real puny until I added a handful of 13/13/13. I have my fingers crossed for some early BLTs.


Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/16 09:54 PM

looks good, I'm still working the pastures. Caught two inches of rain this morning and more to come tomorrow.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/16 10:00 PM

I am still at least a few weeks out on planting Tomatoes. If we don't get too much rain this week, I hope to get out there this weekend and till it all up. I have about 30 onions that have been growing all winter, some have a pretty good ball on them, gonna see if I can till around them and keep them till they are big and just plant new around them. At least 20 or so in one row, I will be able to work around. I have 20 bags of miracle grow dirt and a couple of wheelbarrows worth of compost to mix in too.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/16 03:11 PM

Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/24/16 01:54 AM

Those look good Payne
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/16 10:27 PM

The forecast was for a low of 41 degrees last night. That was the temperature showing on the local weather channels this morning, but we had frost on the grass. It didn't sting my tomatoes, but I was anxious. The forecast is the same for tonight. I'm not taking any chances.

Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/16 11:08 PM

the local Austin radio station said we could dip down to 32 tonight in town, not sure what it will be out in the outskirts outside the burbs ... My little peach tree already has peaches the size of a pinto beans on it ... guess I should water it really good before bedtime to catch some of the evaporation warming effect
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/16 11:50 PM

Walmart had bell peppers and jalapeno peppers in six packs today. I got two bell pepper and one jalapeno six packs. I plan to plant them next week. Then, I will plant a few seeds.
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/16 02:43 AM

Bill you must be living right, it was 29 with a heck of a frost in Longview this morning. My truck was completely covered with ice and frost. The pastures around me where all white.
Posted By: Featherduster

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/29/16 09:21 PM

Ended up making my garden twice as big as last years. Planted 3 rows of corn and 3 rows of beans yesterday. As tempting as it is to plant early, I'm going to wait a little longer. I just had to plant a little bit to cure my itch.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/29/16 09:34 PM

I just pulled one of my radishes. Must be something in the water.


Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/29/16 10:00 PM

eek2
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/16 04:36 PM

My tomatoes are really looking good. Here's one.



I thought I only planted a dozen red potatoes but there are 13 up and growing just like this.



The white potatoes are just cracking the ground. My onions are looking good. I want to put in my bell pepper plants and jalapeos ,but would like to till the row with my new tiller that was supposed to arrive yesterday.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/16 01:11 AM

Dang Bill, you will baking potatoes and having tomato sandwiches before I even plant!, Looks great!!
Posted By: Tres

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/16 04:52 AM

Looking good there Bill. up Put my tomatoes in 2 weeks ago, glad I did.
Posted By: Featherduster

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/16 03:49 AM

Originally Posted By: Featherduster
Ended up making my garden twice as big as last years. Planted 3 rows of corn and 3 rows of beans yesterday. As tempting as it is to plant early, I'm going to wait a little longer. I just had to plant a little bit to cure my itch.


If I knew those tillage radishes would grow good on my sandy ground, I would for sure plant them as a cover crop before planting my corn fields. Very nice Sniper
Posted By: Featherduster

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/16 03:50 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
My tomatoes are really looking good. Here's one.



I thought I only planted a dozen red potatoes but there are 13 up and growing just like this.



The white potatoes are just cracking the ground. My onions are looking good. I want to put in my bell pepper plants and jalapeos ,but would like to till the row with my new tiller that was supposed to arrive yesterday.


Lookin nice Bill!
Posted By: Featherduster

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/16 05:39 PM

How deep do yall plant potatoes? I bought some at walmart the other day, figured why not. I think the package said 4-5" deep to plant, and I read online somewhere that it said 5" also. So I planted about 20 or so 5" deep in the row, just didn't feel right. I told dad and he looked at me like I was crazy. He said just put em in and cover up about an inch or so.

How deep do you plant them?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/16 06:33 PM

I plant mine 4 to 5 inches deep.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/16 09:47 PM

I wanted to get this picture in before the rains. My tubers are doing fine as you can see.



I also have to tell you something. I think it's a miracle every time you plant a seed and it arises from the ground. I got tired of waiting on my new tiller to come in and planted some last years leftover burpless cucumber seeds. A miracle happened.




The tiller finally did come in. I like it pretty good. I can't spell the brand name, so I took a picture of it. Here you go.

Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/16 10:12 PM

Nice!
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/16 10:24 PM

Nice tiller Bill. And garden looks great.
Posted By: TexasKC

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/16 10:31 PM

I've been looking at Husqvarna tillers. I'd appreciate your thoughts on it after you use it. I've had one of their weedeaters for several years and really like it.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/16 10:56 PM

Looks great Bill, nice tiller too
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/16 12:47 AM

Nice garden and tiller! I had 6" of rain dumped on mine last night with 2-3" more on the way.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/16 02:04 PM

very nice Bill! up
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/16 02:12 PM

I finally found some 6 packs of Celebrity tomatoes. I picked up 3. And a six pack of pickling cucumbers. We really enjoyed the pickles last year and we only had one vine. I picked up pepper plants last week. Now if it will dry out enough for me to plant, I will be ready. (6 inches of rain yesterday)
Posted By: Featherduster

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/16 05:41 PM

Corn is up about 3" along with beans. Transplanted some peppers not long ago. Planted squash, zucchini, and cucumbers last Sunday. Still waiting for potatoes and onions to come up.
Posted By: PriddyTxHunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/16 07:11 PM

Originally Posted By: TexasKC
I've been looking at Husqvarna tillers. I'd appreciate your thoughts on it after you use it. I've had one of their weedeaters for several years and really like it.


I bought one 6yrs ago and it works great. I use it on two gardens at the house as well as the pens for my sons show animals several times a year. I've never had a problem with it until this year. It has always started on the first or second pull. Went to start it last month and it just wouldn't start. I pulled the bowl off the carburetor and it was full of sludge. Cleaned it and put it back together and runs like a champ. I always run it dry but guess I forgot to last time. hammer
Posted By: TexasKC

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/16 01:13 AM

Originally Posted By: PriddyTxHunter
Originally Posted By: TexasKC
I've been looking at Husqvarna tillers. I'd appreciate your thoughts on it after you use it. I've had one of their weedeaters for several years and really like it.


I bought one 6yrs ago and it works great. I use it on two gardens at the house as well as the pens for my sons show animals several times a year. I've never had a problem with it until this year. It has always started on the first or second pull. Went to start it last month and it just wouldn't start. I pulled the bowl off the carburetor and it was full of sludge. Cleaned it and put it back together and runs like a champ. I always run it dry but guess I forgot to last time. hammer


Thank you sir. That's just what I wanted to hear.
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/16 04:30 PM

Do you use items like Sevin on the plants before the insects hit?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/16 04:38 PM

I don't use sevin since it kills bees. There are organic products that work.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/16 09:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
I don't use sevin since it kills bees. There are organic products that work.


How about squash borers?
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/16 09:20 PM

Rephrase the question...do you use insect killer before they hit your plants?

Thanks!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/16 09:24 PM

Wipe the vine every five days with BTK or insecticidal soap and remove the plant as soon as it is done producing. That way they can't lay eggs and get into your soil, if that happens you'll have a huge problem next year and possibly longer.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/16 09:27 PM

Originally Posted By: wilhunt
Rephrase the question...do you use insect killer before they hit your plants?

Thanks!


yes plus lady bugs, praying mantis and beneficial nematodes
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/16 10:02 PM

I have had super luck with Spinosad, it will kill most bugs when wet, but after it dries on the leaves, it will kill any chewing bug. Classed as Organic as well.

Like Payne, I don't used poisons if at all possible, not at all in the last 3 years. For squash bugs, I make a pass every day, and use a small propane shop torch to clear them out, cook the eggs as well.

Cucumber beetles can be a pain, but a early morning they are slow and you can put them in a cup of soapy water, you can also build traps for them in Yellow cups with bug killer in the bottom.
Posted By: StretchR

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/16 10:35 PM

I'm new to this thread, but it may take me a while to read up from 2012...

For the post a couple of days about potato depth, the reason old-timers only planted potatoes an inch deep was that they went back and "hilled" more dirt around the plants as they grew. The shallow depth got the potatoes up quickly, then dirt could either be pulled up with a hoe or with a plow. I've planted about 5-6 inches deep myself recently.

This year I'm only growing tomatoes, squash, and cucumbers. In the past I'd grow 75-100 tomato plants with a mix of varieties. A couple of years ago I damaged my knees badly, so now I'm doing less as I still need a cane.

I grow the tomatoes from seed. This year I'm growing "Big Beef" as a slicer and canner. I have two types of cherry tomatoes, "Sweet 100" and "Husky Red Cherry". Since I cut back, I'm growing only 14 Big Beef, 7 Sweet 100 and 6 Husky Red Cherry (I love munching on cherry tomatoes in the summer-- plus if I have too many, they can go in the tomato sauce to be canned). The yellow squash I prefer is "Straightneck Yellow" an older, open-pollinated variety. The cucumbers are a hybrid from Burpee called "Picklebush." They are compact, so I can grow more but they aren't necessarily as productive as some other vining type cucumbers. They do make good pickles.

The tomatoes have been in the ground almost two weeks. I got the squash and cucumbers planted on Monday, before all the rain hit. Hopefully everything doesn't wash away. We'd had about 3.5" of rain for the week this morning.

I use diatomaceous earth (food grade), BT powder (like Thuricide) and Neem oil as the go to for many garden pests. The dusts I spread with a "Dustin Mizer".
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/16 10:45 PM

The more the merrier welcome. I planted picklebush last year, I like it a lot.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/16 12:03 PM

I have read that planting radishes around your squash keeps that squash killing bug away. My granny use to do a lot of companion planting in her garden and I wish I would have paid attention as to why she did it
Posted By: Ramball36

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/16 01:50 PM

^^^^I know what you're plantin in your garden
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/16 01:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Ramball36
^^^^I know what you're plantin in your garden


I plant that stuff in neighbors gardens
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/16 02:57 PM

Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/16 06:26 PM

We put tomato's in Feb.12th and did not lose nut 3 to the cold (38) and wind. Now a few have some tan color leaves on top of the plant. Last year had great luck with Celebrity. This year in error, we got home with Early Girl, I decided to keep them.

Have cucumbers, bush beans, bell and sweet peppers up as well as okra. Last years okra looked good but the the plant seemed to die from the ground up.
Posted By: Texas Tatonkas

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/16 02:14 PM

I have a question....I am doing raised beds this weekend out of concrete block. The ground here is bad, very rocky and cactus even have hard time growing. So my question is how high does the good dirt I bring in need to be for things like squash and okra? Is 16 inches enough?
Posted By: StretchR

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/16 02:25 PM

Sixteen inches should be more than enough. I had okra plants that grew over 7' high (from the soil of the bed) in a raised bed of landscape timbers that was 5 rows (12.5") tall. Tomatoes also did really well. No reason squash wouldn't either.

You just need enough soil to hold moisture and nutrients that is also well drained so the roots won't drown. To do that, be sure to use an enriched soil for the bed, with compost. If you just use normal yard "topsoil" that is loam or sandy loam you won't get great results. Some landscape supply yards actually have mixes targeted specifically for raised beds.
Posted By: Featherduster

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/16 02:21 PM

Originally Posted By: StretchR
I'm new to this thread, but it may take me a while to read up from 2012...

For the post a couple of days about potato depth, the reason old-timers only planted potatoes an inch deep was that they went back and "hilled" more dirt around the plants as they grew. The shallow depth got the potatoes up quickly, then dirt could either be pulled up with a hoe or with a plow. I've planted about 5-6 inches deep myself recently.

This year I'm only growing tomatoes, squash, and cucumbers. In the past I'd grow 75-100 tomato plants with a mix of varieties. A couple of years ago I damaged my knees badly, so now I'm doing less as I still need a cane.

I grow the tomatoes from seed. This year I'm growing "Big Beef" as a slicer and canner. I have two types of cherry tomatoes, "Sweet 100" and "Husky Red Cherry". Since I cut back, I'm growing only 14 Big Beef, 7 Sweet 100 and 6 Husky Red Cherry (I love munching on cherry tomatoes in the summer-- plus if I have too many, they can go in the tomato sauce to be canned). The yellow squash I prefer is "Straightneck Yellow" an older, open-pollinated variety. The cucumbers are a hybrid from Burpee called "Picklebush." They are compact, so I can grow more but they aren't necessarily as productive as some other vining type cucumbers. They do make good pickles.

The tomatoes have been in the ground almost two weeks. I got the squash and cucumbers planted on Monday, before all the rain hit. Hopefully everything doesn't wash away. We'd had about 3.5" of rain for the week this morning.

I use diatomaceous earth (food grade), BT powder (like Thuricide) and Neem oil as the go to for many garden pests. The dusts I spread with a "Dustin Mizer".



Welcome to the thread! Makes sense on the potatoes you talked about.

Originally Posted By: Payne
The more the merrier welcome. I planted picklebush last year, I like it a lot.


Glad to hear that. I planted picklebush this year as well. Never planted it before, see what happens
Posted By: huntindude

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/16 12:37 PM

the weather forcast is calling for the low of 39 on sunday in trinity county. Better watch the tomatoes and peppers.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/16 01:42 PM

Originally Posted By: huntindude
the weather forcast is calling for the low of 39 on sunday in trinity county. Better watch the tomatoes and peppers.


Same over here. I have tilled my garden twice to get the cover crop and mulch in, just to see a lot of it wash out this last flood. Going to try and make up a pvc pipe drip irrigation this year as well, we'll see.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/16 02:21 PM

you know the old saying ... Thunder in February, freeze before the end of April.

we've held off planting our tomatoes but will likely go ahead and put them in this weekend.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/16 03:04 PM

Originally Posted By: PMK
you know the old saying ... Thunder in February, freeze before the end of April.

we've held off planting our tomatoes but will likely go ahead and put them in this weekend.


Yes sir, I did the same last year, put in tomatoes and corn last week of March, sure as the world, a freeze in April.....Last frost date for my area is around 4/15.

Here is a great site for finding chill hrs in a specific area for fruit tree selection
http://getchill.net/
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/16 07:08 PM

Calling for 33 degrees in Longview for Monday morning. The neighbors have peach trees in full bloom so I hope they are wrong. Going to cover my strawberry plants and hope for the best, everything else should be good.
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/16 10:57 AM

Well the weather guessers missed it, 31 degrees with a heck of a frost. My yard looks like it snowed it is so white. Hope everyone else had warmer weather. Sure am glad I held off on planting tomatoes and peppers till this week. Moved everything inside last night.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/16 11:38 AM

33 here this morning, I'm going to plant this week
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/16 12:44 PM

We had frost. I left my drippers on all night. Haven't checked the tomato plants yet. Fingers crossed.
Posted By: janie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/16 12:50 PM

38 here this morning. Put our tomato plants in 5 gallon bucket's yesterday, but brought them inside last night, I'm hesitant to start much else, but figure carrot seed's are pretty hardy, so plan on getting those in the dirt later today.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/16 01:12 PM

Some frost

Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/16 01:28 PM

Glad I waited as well, last 2 nights been very frosty
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/16 03:02 PM

we planted tomatoes, zucchini, straight neck squash and okra this past weekend. Knowing it was going to get pretty cool last night, we watered everything pretty good yesterday late afternoon in hopes it would get some evaporation heating. It was 38* when I left the house but my commuter car had a pretty heavy frost on it. The wife checked before she left the house and said everything looked okay so far.

ya'll remember my hearty little peach tree with the extremely low chill hours? below is a picture from Sat. (3-19-2016) and it is covered with peaches, slightly larger than a quarter. Our other tree (high chill hours) has blooms and just putting on leaves.

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/16 06:40 PM

Looks as if I dodged the bullet also.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/16 11:07 PM

A little late to the party.


Posted By: PWT

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/16 11:37 PM

Late to the party here also... I'd just first like to say I've been lurking here a while, y'all have some impressive gardens. I tried the whole gardening thing here(southern Collin county) and the soil here SUCKS, so I finally decided to try raised beds last year. The unbelievable rain in May set us back (then I screwed up overwatered once the rain stopped) and ended up a well below average harvest, you live and learn. I planted some cucumbers and squash last night and will get some maters and other stuff going soon though. Found a burrow a cottontail made by my onions and dug it up and only had fur and grass, no babies, so I decided I needed a scarecrow, Thank you Chickenman! Hopefully this year will work out a little better.
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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/16 11:40 PM

Looks good y'all
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/16 12:51 AM

The low of 30 degrees burnt my potatoes really bad, looks like 1/2 of them may not make it. Oh well, time to put in the tomatoes, peppers and other goodies.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/16 01:23 AM

Originally Posted By: Old Rabbit
The low of 30 degrees burnt my potatoes really bad, looks like 1/2 of them may not make it. Oh well, time to put in the tomatoes, peppers and other goodies.

Happened to me last year, but I though I lost them all, most came back up though, just took half the summer to get decent sized.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/16 02:24 AM

I'm chomping at the bit to plant now that my dirt is dry enough to till. This morning it was 30 degrees and frosty when we loaded up to go to the lake.
Posted By: Tres

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/16 01:03 PM

Got my garden in 3 weeks ago, tomatoes are just starting to set fruit. Hope I can keep the critters off them.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/16 02:49 AM

Grass has taken over my garden for many years. I cant keep it out. Every spring I think of new ways to kill it off before I plant. I've tried it all from mulch to newspaper to felt to straw to hay to roundup to 10% vinegar to 20% vinegar. Leaves this time. A lot of leaves. I did scalp and spray (no cover though) before adding leaves.

Hoping for some relief.

Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/16 09:48 PM

Saturday I tilled all of it then added 16 bags of miracle grow garden soil, then tilled it all again. This morning we formed the rows, covered with fabric and planted 18 Celebrities, 6 Big Boys, 10 Green Bell Peppers, 6 Red Bell Peppers, 4 Banana Peppers, 8 Jalapeo Peppers and 6 pickling cucumbers. The onions have been growing all winter.

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/16 11:13 PM

Looks great CC.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/16 11:52 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Looks great CC.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/16 01:56 PM

Still feeling the tiller this morning. That thing kicked my azz but I got it all tilled up better than I ever have before.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/16 04:12 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Still feeling the tiller this morning. That thing kicked my azz but I got it all tilled up better than I ever have before.


So, I guess that means you wont come till my hunerd x fitty spot? roflmao
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/16 04:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Still feeling the tiller this morning. That thing kicked my azz but I got it all tilled up better than I ever have before.


So, I guess that means you wont come till my hunerd x fitty spot? roflmao


Yes, that is exactly what that means. whip
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/16 06:01 PM








Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/16 09:03 PM

I'll cage it tomorrow

Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/16 09:21 PM

looks great P
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/16 09:44 PM

do you use Sakrete as seeds for those cinder blocks loser8 ... looks great!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/16 09:55 PM

Thanks yall


CC what are the stakes, in the second row from the left towards the back, used for?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/16 11:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Thanks yall


CC what are the stakes, in the second row from the left towards the back, used for?


You are a big noticer. You made me go back and look. It's the third or middle row.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/16 12:04 AM

I didn't count the onions as a row
Posted By: Tres

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/16 01:13 AM

Nice gardens guys. Any of you keep bees?
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/16 09:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Tres
Nice gardens guys. Any of you keep bees?


I'm fixing too, have one hive set up waiting for bee's. Probably order another hive set, since 2 are supposed to be better, if something goes wrong. I have a wild bee hive, but they are in a large oak tree, so I leave them bee grin

There is a local swarm catcher in town that is going to get me a swarm. If they turn off mean, I will re-queen to a more manageable bee strain.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/16 01:45 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: Payne
Thanks yall


CC what are the stakes, in the second row from the left towards the back, used for?


You are a big noticer. You made me go back and look. It's the third or middle row.


It's just a marker for my strawberries so I dont till them up I only had 3 make it through but I bought 2 more yesterday to plant.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/16 01:53 PM

gotcha, been having a pretty good year with them

Posted By: TreeBass

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/16 02:00 PM

Ya'll are looking pretty good this year

After being gone last year, the kiddos didn't do a very good job of weeding. so I dug everything out of the raised bed, and brought in in new soil.

Planted tomatoes, squash, cucumbers, jalepenos, and bell peppers this past weekend. I'll get a pic or two this evening up
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/16 02:01 PM

That's awesome. I just started mine last year, didn't get any but have already had a ripe one this year. Not looking to get a bunch but it would be cool to get that row established. Do you cover yours with hay in the winter?
Posted By: Tres

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/16 02:15 PM

Same here, may be next Spring before I get some. Have some in my neighbor's tree but bee guy said he wouldn't be able to get the queen out. Was hoping they would swarm this year but they didn't.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/16 02:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Tres
Same here, may be next Spring before I get some. Have some in my neighbor's tree but bee guy said he wouldn't be able to get the queen out. Was hoping they would swarm this year but they didn't.


If they are wild, or feral bees and in a strong hive, they should swarm anytime. Knowing when is the hard part.

Get a hold of the folks around you that remove HB, many will give them to you for free if you have a hive ready to go, most don't want to kill them and are already "bee rich". Mine just wants 2 5 gallon buckets for trade up
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/16 02:49 PM

BTW, there is a bee seller north of you, pretty big outfit, if you want to spring $150 for a package.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/16 02:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
BTW, there is a bee seller north of you, pretty big outfit, if you want to spring $150 for a package.


In Navasot
http://www.beeweaver.com/welcome
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/16 03:26 PM

Payne must have aced that test about fruits not getting any riper after they were harvested.

My top crop looks as good as I've seen it. Here you go.




Someone wrote that red or purple onions would help control your blood pressure. I just bought my last onion until fall. Look at this.




The thing is, you can go to the store and buy all vegetables just as good as you can grow. Good thing a tomato s a fruit. You simply can't buy home grown tomatoes at the store. Mine are about golf ball size.


Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/16 03:30 PM

Looking great Bill. I love watching a garden grow.
Posted By: janie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/16 03:55 PM

Looking great fellas. Our tomato's are doing well. I got carrot seed's in the ground last week, and we also put in 6 cantaloupe plants. Onions are good, and we also have some random asparagus popping up.

Lord, please keep the hail stones away from all of us. smile
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/16 04:02 PM

Yep, I'm worried about the hail too janie. Hope we don't get any
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/16 04:58 PM

Originally Posted By: janie
Looking great fellas. Our tomato's are doing well. I got carrot seed's in the ground last week, and we also put in 6 cantaloupe plants. Onions are good, and we also have some random asparagus popping up.

Lord, please keep the hail stones away from all of us. smile


My asparagus is 3' tall already, 2nd year so will let them grow out again, next Spring it's game on!!

I hope to get a few things in this weekend, depending on the forecast.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/16 05:04 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Do you cover yours with hay in the winter?


I have them in a greenhouse so the peafowl don't eat them. When I had them in the orchard I covered them with hay.


Posted By: Tres

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/16 03:53 AM

Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: Western
BTW, there is a bee seller north of you, pretty big outfit, if you want to spring $150 for a package.


In Navasot
http://www.beeweaver.com/welcome


Thanks Western, I've emailed them, but was too late. Worst case I'll get on the list for some next year, had no idea they were in such high demand, but that's a good thing up
Posted By: Tres

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/16 03:56 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Payne must have aced that test about fruits not getting any riper after they were harvested.

My top crop looks as good as I've seen it. Here you go.




Someone wrote that red or purple onions would help control your blood pressure. I just bought my last onion until fall. Look at this.




The thing is, you can go to the store and buy all vegetables just as good as you can grow. Good thing a tomato s a fruit. You simply can't buy home grown tomatoes at the store. Mine are about golf ball size.




Dang Bill, that's a heck of a a garden! cheers
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/16 08:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Tres
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Payne must have aced that test about fruits not getting any riper after they were harvested.

My top crop looks as good as I've seen it. Here you go.




Someone wrote that red or purple onions would help control your blood pressure. I just bought my last onion until fall. Look at this.




The thing is, you can go to the store and buy all vegetables just as good as you can grow. Good thing a tomato s a fruit. You simply can't buy home grown tomatoes at the store. Mine are about golf ball size.




Dang Bill, that's a heck of a a garden! cheers


Bill you cannot grow ANY vegetables as good as home grown, you just can't IMO. Now fruit, I will say that the Valley produce has the best in the world IMO (Payne might unfriend me). Of course they can't grow apples and such...but the citrus and melons that is grown down here is the best I have ever had. The watermelons/cantaloupes etc are gold to me. Avocados, limes, lemons etc... Those little valley stands on the side of the road almost always beat the hell out of HEB as far as price and quality.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/16 12:39 PM

I believe I am ready to plant. Hopefully the freeze we had last week was our last for the year. Sunday I got the onions weeded, they were not bad but I try to keep it tidy. The fence does need attention though. If there are no fronts moving way up north I will plow, till, and plant Saturday.

My onions are doing well and are beginning to bulb.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/16 01:37 PM

nice rows, looks good
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/16 01:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
nice rows, looks good


Long too.

Funny thing. White potatoes have white blooms and red potatoes have purple blooms. Here's a white.



The reds are about the same size. I've bought my last potato for awhile. I'll start pan frying these suckers soon. You don't even have to peel them.

My tomatoes are now about tennis ball size, and putting on a new crop.



Bell peppers are strong and healthy. Any time now.




This is my first squash planting. I planted more yesterday. I always plant them at the ends of my rows.


Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/16 04:58 PM

Looks good guys
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/16 08:17 PM

Looks good as usual Bill. I'm jealous of you Southern guys, y'all are always a month ahead of me.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/16 09:05 PM

Originally Posted By: LonestarCobra
Looks good as usual Bill. I'm jealous of you Southern guys, y'all are always a month ahead of me.


That's the truth! Bill is kicking some serious butt already and I just tilled in some fertilizer to get my 1st 4 rows of corn in. bang
Posted By: poisonivie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/16 09:36 PM

Dang, Clint. You never do anything halfway.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/16 11:26 PM

Originally Posted By: poisonivie
Dang, Clint. You never do anything halfway.


LOL....I grew up working a 2 acre garden with my grandparents. I don't think I ever had a store bought green bean until I had my first meal at the TSU mess hall. I thought they were rotten. I fenced in an acre and started my own a few years ago. I grew the whole thing for a couple of years and kept the family in good fresh vegetables. Now the older generation of the family is too old to do as much canning and what not so I cut back to about 1/3 of it, and store hay in the rest of it. If this oilfield does not improve I may have to gear back up and pimp veggies on the courthouse lawn.
Posted By: poisonivie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/16 01:46 PM

Just don't be hiding the ganja under the lettuce.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/16 03:35 PM

Curiosity got the best of me. I just had to see what was down there. I'll defitnely get more than my seeds back this year. Another thing I look for in red potatoes is uniformity. I got a dozen keepers without a single cat faced potato.



I'll be having pans fried potatoes with purple onions, bell peppers and Payne's sausage links for dinner Monday night.



Dang. I have to use a store bought bell pepper.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/16 09:29 PM

nice looking reds there, bill!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/16 04:16 PM

Originally Posted By: oldoak2000
nice looking reds there, bill!


Thanks a bunch for all of your kind words. The bell peppers are finally on the way.



Looks as if my tomatoes set a good bottom crop.



This cilantro around the edges draws a good number of bees. I'd love to get a taste of that honey.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/16 10:47 PM

looks great
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/16 01:23 PM

Awesome garden Bill, you're light years ahead of me.



Payne's probably already picking grapes by now as well, but I have some coming on up
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/16 01:25 PM

Most grapes are ready around Forth of July.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/16 01:28 PM

My "clusters" are about the size of a golf ball right now. I cut the vines back to 3 primaries over the winter, which seemed to have helped a lot.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/16 02:03 PM

Looking great Bill. Mine is coming along nicely too but not as far along as yours.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/16 12:59 AM

I had a s four strip leftover, so I planted 7 hills of watermelon yesterday. My neighbor has been doing well with them. We will see.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/16 05:00 PM

Well,well,well, lookie, lookie, lookie, at what I just found under some white blooms. The big one is more than I can eat with my tenderloin tomorrow night.



Also, I need to tell you that I found a new way to cook the smaller potatoes with my cheeseburger last Thursday night. I think they would freeze fine. I put a couple in the microwave for three minutes, sliced them in quarter inch thick slices, and pan fried them in the hot oil I later used to brown my bun.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/16 08:47 PM

Current garden is doing including the grass that's growing in it bang

New spot got turned today. More work to do there.


Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/16 08:49 PM

Nice setup Cman, do you & I a favor and store your tiller in your shop..
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/16 09:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Nice setup Cman, do you & I a favor and store your tiller in your shop..


A first happened to me with my new tiller. It had been starting on the first pulls ever since I got it. I got in out of my garage last week and nothing happened after four pulls. I took off the gas cap and it was completely empty. That has never happened to me with any garden or lawn equipment.
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/16 11:47 PM

Looking good fellows. I finally got my tomatoes planted yesterday. I cut back and planted 18 Homesteads and 2 Cherry. Looking forward to eating them in about 50 days.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/16 02:19 PM

My watermelons sprouted.




My purple onions were outdoing the 1015s but they are now catching up.




Anyone ever tried zucchini blossoms. Is this a beautiful picture or what?

Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/16 03:31 PM

up
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/16 02:43 PM

This is one hill of red potatoes. I defiantly got my seeds back this year.


Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/16 08:54 PM

2 gates added





Don't work




Does work

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/16 11:17 PM

My Troy Built went to see Jesus. I have the plow that was attached to it. You're welcome to try it.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/16 04:17 PM

I was wrong when I wrote that all bell peppers started out green. I had forgotten about the purple bell peppers. I put two of them in. Here's one.

Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/16 04:20 PM

My first bell pepper this season grew like a jalapeo and started questioning what I actually planted.. Real thin skinned too.. Any tips to help beef them up? Or did I just grow a bad plant
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/16 11:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Stevarino
My first bell pepper this season grew like a jalapeo and started questioning what I actually planted.. Real thin skinned too.. Any tips to help beef them up? Or did I just grow a bad plant


I had the same problems for years, and then it just went away. My bell peppers are now thick and sweet. I don't know what I did different, except maybe side dress with more 13/13/13. I think maybe it has a lot to do with the root stock.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/16 12:10 AM

I put osmocote in when I plant. Might help out if you put some out.
Posted By: Halfadozen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/16 12:08 AM

Looking good gents, amazing how quick you guys are growing down south.
Posted By: Featherduster

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/16 04:13 PM

Started pickin squash and zucchini yesterday. Have some yellow wax beans that I will probably pick this evening as well.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/16 01:51 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
My Troy Built went to see Jesus. I have the plow that was attached to it. You're welcome to try it.


Bill - I am interested. I thought about fabricating something but really dont have time.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/16 01:53 PM

Everything is planted. 1/3" of rain yesterday. Its coming along. Time to focus on those fish now.

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/16 04:34 PM

My bell peppers went from teacup to coffee mug size in the last couple of weeks.



My jalapeos are almost ready.




I'll have some half pound onions.




My tomatoes are setting all the way to the top.

Posted By: Texas Tatonkas

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/16 11:45 PM

I am struggling with this garden business. I have no clue how much to water. I have been spraying it for about 10 minutes everyday. My plants sprouted but now some are wilting and turning yellow. Any advice?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/16 12:02 AM

water in the mornings. you can stick a finger into the the dirt about an inch if its dry water. water the base not the leaves. you're better off watering longer and less frequently. soaker hoses and timers make it easy, you can use a manifold for multiple rows.
Posted By: Texas Tatonkas

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/16 01:02 AM

Cool thanks so if using a soaker hose how long woukd be good?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/16 01:14 AM

depends on the heat, I'm running them an hour every four~six days. what do you have planted?
Posted By: Texas Tatonkas

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/16 01:37 AM

I planted okra, squash, zucchini, eggplant, peas, beans, and a bunch of different peppers. I think I must be over watering. When it gets dry on top I have been watering. Our problem here in the desert has been the wind lately. My peppers got hammered. All the other stuff I grew from dead and came up but have been struggling after starting well.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/16 02:12 AM

Let's see some pics of the garden

You didn't plant any tomatoes?
Posted By: Navasot

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/16 02:40 AM

Mines getting pretty serious

Posted By: Texas Tatonkas

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/16 02:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Let's see some pics of the garden

You didn't plant any tomatoes?


Yep those too, all raised beds.....I'll grab some pics manana
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/16 10:17 AM

Looks great Nav
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/16 01:11 PM

I watered mine in when I planted it and I haven't had to water it again. Rain has kept it watered. Looking good Nav.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/16 01:12 PM

roflmao
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/16 02:40 PM

and so it begins..









Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/16 09:08 PM

Looking good Payne.


I pick my early tomatoes at first blush. I picked a half dozen today.

Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/16 02:16 PM

You guys down south are a good month ahead of us. 49 degrees this morning north of Dallas, but I've picked a few peppers and tomatoes are on the vine.. Saw a squash yesterday, and my 11 potatoe plants are looking pretty good.



Oh, and you may notice my little plumb tree is doing well in the background.. It lost every leaf this time last year and thought I'd be cutting it down..
Posted By: Tres

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/16 03:29 AM

Originally Posted By: Navasot
Mines getting pretty serious




You know there is a big market in the restaurant biz for "micro greens" grin
Posted By: Tres

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/16 03:32 AM

Nice haul Bill!
Posted By: Navasot

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/16 03:52 AM

Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/16 09:43 AM

You know Nav, if you'd get out more, you'd meet someone that would let you borrow a tractor and you could till in a garden and free up some dining area space! grin
Posted By: Navasot

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/16 01:28 PM

Ha! Some are going outside this weekend they start well in the dinning room since there are so many windows lol
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/16 02:21 PM

Good looking garden guys, Bill and Payne seem to be pro's. Our tomato's have grown like wildfire but have produced only 3 or4 tomato's...plants have lots of green ones now. Pepper plants are not doing so well, cucumber plants really growing and blooming. Bush beans mostly good, have picked beans twice but they have not done well in this past week. Okra not doing as well as I would like...slow growing.
Posted By: TimOub007

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/16 08:00 PM

Some of my onion tops have laid over so I know it is time to pull those out of the ground. My question is what to do with them and where to keep them? Do I leave the tops on until ready to cook them or cut the tops off now?

Educate this newby as no other year have my onions actually done this well.

Thanks as usual,
T
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/16 08:21 PM

Originally Posted By: TimOub007
Some of my onion tops have laid over so I know it is time to pull those out of the ground. My question is what to do with them and where to keep them? Do I leave the tops on until ready to cook them or cut the tops off now?

Educate this newby as no other year have my onions actually done this well.

Thanks as usual,
T


I've tried everything. Leaving them in the ground works best for me. I've kept them in the refrigerator until October. They will start to sprout in there. Seems as if I always have to use store bought for Thanksgiving dressing.
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/16 09:04 PM

Don't some folks leave the top on them, then hang the onions up in a cool dry place until ready to use?
Posted By: Cast

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/16 09:06 PM

I've seen then hung in pantyhose cutoffs.

But I bet Bill has been here done that.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/16 09:19 PM

Originally Posted By: wilhunt
Don't some folks leave the top on them, then hang the onions up in a cool dry place until ready to use?


I've tried this and I don't wear panty hose. Mine eventually started dropping off. It's difficult to find a cool dry place in the Houston area. I did not have a good onion last year. Some of my purple onions were not worth pulling. I found them in the garden in September. I'm not sure they would keep in the ground on a wet summer.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/16 11:09 AM

My grandparents had us pull all the bulb onions when they started to fall over, they where kept on the patio to dry for a couple days then cleaned a bit and stored in the shade for a week or so, I dont remember just how long. A few times I saw them get braided to finish off in the basement, but most of the time my mom and granny would trim them up and they'd go in the pantry, cool and dark.


I actually saw onion sets yesterday at the Decatur Walmart, should have got some since I have room.
Posted By: TimOub007

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/16 02:59 PM

Thank you for the input. I think I will pull some and leave them on my back porch for a while to dry.

Seeing Western mention sets available now, has anyone in the SE part of the state grown onions through the summer? I did not think that they would do well through the heat.

Tim
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/16 03:21 PM

Originally Posted By: TimOub007
Thank you for the input. I think I will pull some and leave them on my back porch for a while to dry.

Seeing Western mention sets available now, has anyone in the SE part of the state grown onions through the summer? I did not think that they would do well through the heat.

Tim


I don't think they do well in the heat. The 1015s got their name from the planting date, but it was the planting date of the onion seeds, not the sets. I fell in with a produce farmer several years ago while Whitewing hunting In the valley. He gave me some seeds. Those suckers were slow and needed transplanting.
Posted By: Cast

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/16 03:32 PM

Found this on storing onions

Bring the onions indoors and store them in mesh bags, a bushel basket, or a flat cardboard box with some holes punched in it. Keep the onions as cool as possible (35 to 40 degrees F.) and away from light. A good storage onion kept in a cold, dark place will retain its eating quality for 10 to 12 months.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/16 03:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Cast
Found this on storing onions

Bring the onions indoors and store them in mesh bags, a bushel basket, or a flat cardboard box with some holes punched in it. Keep the onions as cool as possible (35 to 40 degrees F.) and away from light. A good storage onion kept in a cold, dark place will retain its eating quality for 10 to 12 months.


My vegetable crisper would meet those qualifications, but they don't retain their eating quality for 10 months. I chopped some and dehydrated them one year. It was not worth the effort.
Posted By: Cast

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/16 04:43 PM

Several years ago they built a storage facility just for storing vidalia onions. We can now buy them year round. Might see how they do it.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/16 04:48 PM

build a root cellar if you need to keep your onions for long periods of time.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/16 09:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Cast
Several years ago they built a storage facility just for storing vidalia onions. We can now buy them year round. Might see how they do it.


Look what I found on google.



Texas A&M onion breeders have produced a better, i.e., sweeter, larger, more disease?resistant, onion named Texas A&M Supersweet or 1015Y, which stands for the October 15 planting date and Yellow onion. Supersweet has been judged the mildest and sweetest when competing against the Vidalia, Maui (Hawaiian onion) and California Imperial Sweet onions.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/16 10:12 PM

What type of onions do you grow?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/16 12:55 PM

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/16 01:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne


You need some onions and tomatoes to go with those to make a marinated salad. You can put up a few pickles.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/16 01:30 PM

Tomatoes are three weeks out and my uncle grows the onions.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/16 02:22 PM

I got the package Bill, that was hilarious. I'll post a pic when I get back. Thank you.
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/16 06:16 PM

Good looking squash Payne. Split them open, season with some Tony chachere's and throw on the grill. up
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/16 08:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
I got the package Bill, that was hilarious. I'll post a pic when I get back. Thank you.


It was a setup. I mailed it Friday. You can look up my thread called Marinated Salad. It's simple.
Posted By: Texas Tatonkas

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/16 04:26 AM

Ok so I realized my raised bed wasn't level and it was filled to the top so I couldn't flood it. So leveled it and took out 2 inches and started over. When removing soil I realized the first 2 inches was dry and underneath was mud so I think I also watered too much. I had to kill everything which sucked cause I started a month ago but hopefully I get this figured out. I am going to use a bubbler to flood it every 4 days and see how that works. Wish me luck
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/16 01:04 PM

Good luck
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/16 01:33 PM

Would a layer of stone, or rock on the bottom of a bed help with drainage?
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/16 03:25 PM

what type of raised bed do you have? you can drill holes towards the bottom around the perimeter to prevent it holding too much water.
Posted By: Bradgrace

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/16 12:45 AM

I have a question for the resident gardening experts I planted some onions this year for the first time and they are starting to turn yellow and brown at the tips. Is this normal or what exactly is causing it?


Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/16 12:54 AM

You need to break off those stems that are going to seed. The healthy one will tend to brown off as they put on new growth from the middle. New growth indicates that an onion bulb is forming just under te soil. A lot depends on the onion sets that you bought. That's always been a crap shoot for me.
Posted By: Bradgrace

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/16 01:07 AM

Thanks Bill! These are the 1015y onions. Should I just snip off the end of the stem that's going to seed or the whole stem?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/16 01:10 AM

I break them off at the roots. They will snap right off. You will still get a catfaced onion, but it's better than leaving them be.
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/16 10:56 PM

Which onion do you plant that will produce large onions? I think mine are the 1015 and they don't seem to get very big.
Once cucumbers bloom, shouldn't they produce soon after?
Posted By: StretchR

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/16 10:39 AM

The trick with onions is that there are three main categories: Short-day, long-day, and intermediate. The short-day onions do the best at bulbing in most parts of Texas. They will normally start bulbing when the day gets to 11-12 hours and be finished 110 days from transplant. Texas 1015 is a short-day onion. So, for the biggest onions, in central or south Texas you need to plant in late December or January. Further north can be a little later. For those in the Panhandle, it is possible to grow intermediate day onions. They don't start bulbing until 12-14 hours daylight.

Of course, you have to be sure you don't plant long-day onions in Texas unless you only want green onions. It's our bad luck in Texas that the long-day onions are the longest storage varieties. I've ordered onion sets from a farm in south Texas for several years. Their website has good information and the onions I've grown from their sets have done pretty well.

Dixondale Farms: http://www.dixondalefarms.com/onion_plant_daylengths
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/16 08:44 PM

Here's a two dollar onion. I don't know the variety. The little tag just read purple onions. A slice of this sucker goes on my cheeseburger tonight.

Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/16 01:11 AM

The tower garden is pretty cool. My hippie wife bought it.



New garden is coming along....slowly.



Need bigger cages for the squash blush

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/16 01:20 AM

That tower is nice. Nice east to west setup on the new garden.
Posted By: Navasot

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/16 01:47 AM



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Posted By: Navasot

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/16 01:49 AM

Kinda mixing things up but good peas, cucumber and sunflowers in there
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/16 01:57 AM

Looks good Nav, is that where y'all are doing the nuptials next June?
Posted By: Navasot

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/16 02:41 AM

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"we attended the young duke's nuptials"

HAHAHAno
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/16 01:09 PM

roflmao
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/16 05:00 PM

I picked one of my purple bell peppers to add to my pan fried potatoes tonight. All this along with sausage links will go into a frying pan tonight. That's excluding the tomatoes. I just stuck them in there to show you that the second or middle crop tomatoes are larger than the bottom crop.

Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/16 05:18 PM

Checked the potatoes last night. First plant seemed to have done pretty good. We have another 10-11 plants to dig up..

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/16 11:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Stevarino
Checked the potatoes last night. First plant seemed to have done pretty good. We have another 10-11 plants to dig up..




Try this with those smaller potatoes. You don't have to peel them.

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
It still has to be browned off and topped with fresh dill from my garden.


Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/16 11:36 PM

That looks great Bill
Posted By: Featherduster

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/16 02:14 AM

Didnt check the garden for three days. Had a pretty good harvest

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/16 02:22 AM

Nice haul featherduster
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/16 01:35 PM

Getting ready for my first batch of salsa. More on the recipes forum later.

Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/16 02:40 PM

I my try your salsa recipe this year bill. My garden is way behind from the rains and late freezes preventing planting on time. My tomatoes are just now setting fruit. I do have some very good onions this year, 1015y of course.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/16 09:38 PM

Originally Posted By: LonestarCobra
I my try your salsa recipe this year bill. My garden is way behind from the rains and late freezes preventing planting on time. My tomatoes are just now setting fruit. I do have some very good onions this year, 1015y of course.


You can also make and freeze marinara with a similar recipe. Just cut down on the jalapeos, add bell peppers, oregano, and basil.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/16 09:43 PM

What kind of tomatoes did you grow this year Bill?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/16 10:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
What kind of tomatoes did you grow this year Bill?


I changed. I grew Better Boys ths year. That's was all that was available when I bought my plants. I planted one six pack of them last year and they did fine.

Tomatoes make three crops or more. My bottom crop was smaller than I wanted. The middle crop has some very fine slicing tomatoes. We will see about the top crop.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/16 10:50 PM

The ones you sent me were great, thanks again.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/16 01:03 PM

I'm getting antsy, my tomatoes are looking awesome, probly have some ready in another week (maybe 2) Peppers are looking great too. looks like my bells are going to finally do good this year. Been so busy with dad in the hospital, I haven't been getting to watch it grow like I usually do.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/16 03:14 PM

More and more potatoes... What a great return on something so simple and cheap to plant.. I've been averaging about 4-5 decent sized potatoes per plant and the boys are having a blast looking for them.. Kind of like Easter egg hunting.


And they taste great..


Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/16 02:00 PM

I'm getting ready to do some hamburger dill chips.

Posted By: Tres

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/16 10:11 PM

Started pulling tomatoes in last week.
Posted By: Texas Tatonkas

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/16 02:03 AM

We got hail and it killed all my veggies.....would you replant or just call it a year?
Posted By: mikei

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/16 01:05 PM

I'd definitely replant! Here in Central Texas we get damaging hail on a regular basis during the spring, and I just compost the ruined crops and sow some new ones. The results are generally pretty good, and it's nice to have peppers and tomatoes right up until Thanksgiving! The heat will be the biggest problem so you'll have to water more frequently and possibly provide some protection from the sun.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/16 01:19 PM

Replant. If you have anything like melons that have a long growing time before harvest, you might want to replace those with something else at this point. My small garden is a little less hands on, heirloom rather than hybrid, only from seed, no pesticides, and could be called organic if not for spraying a fungicide if needed. So I lost a lot of plants this year to thrips, baterium wilt, and a Vizla named Blaze that likes to eat cucumber plants. I replanted some things more than once this year.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/16 05:33 PM

This is my best potato year ever. I don't know what I did different unless it was planting a little earlier. I never do cut my potatoes before I plant them.

You can see that they have size and uniformity. This is just two hills that I dug. There are 9 potatoes in this colander. I gave my neighbor a few of the smaller ones.

Posted By: mikei

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/16 01:04 AM

What I've started doing with potatoes is not planting them at all. I scratch off a piece of ground, roll the potato eyes in some sulfur powder, lay 'em on the ground and then cover them with whatever compost I have. As soon as the greenery pokes through the layer of compost, I put another layer on. Keep on doing this until the greens quit greening and then push the compost off and collect them 'taters! Lazy man's way of growing spuds, which is right down my alley!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/16 04:44 PM

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/16 05:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne


Originally Posted By: bill oxner

[quote=bill oxner]I'm getting ready to do some hamburger dill chips.


There is really not much to write. My original recipe called for a gallon of cucumbers packed with dill, jalapeo, and garlic. Make a brine with 2 pints water, 1 pint vinegar, and 1/3 cup salt.

Pour the brine over the cucumbers and you have dill pickles.

I simply sliced my cucumbers for hamburger dill chips.


Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/16 06:04 PM

I'm doing bread & butter
Posted By: Navasot

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/16 06:27 PM

Got sprouts!

Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/16 10:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Navasot
Got sprouts!




roflmao
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/16 10:30 PM

I'm obsessed with making sure my squash doesn't take over the ground and has something to climb. Made these for them.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/16 10:42 PM

Is the squash plant near pine trees? Those leaves don't look right. maybe a nutrient problem, did you do a soil test?
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/16 10:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Is the squash plant near pine trees? Those leaves don't look right. maybe a nutrient problem, did you do a soil test?

Mine look like that too. popcorn
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/16 10:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Is the squash plant near pine trees? Those leaves don't look right. maybe a nutrient problem, did you do a soil test?


A fern of some sort (20'x50'x10' tall) was in this area for 10 years. It was killed, dug up, and removed 2 years ago.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/16 10:57 PM

do you know your ph?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/16 10:59 PM

are you watering the base or the leaves?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/16 11:00 PM

Sorry. What's shown are zucchini plants.
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/16 12:35 AM

Originally Posted By: Navasot
Got sprouts!



Sorry Nav, they don't come true from seed, all you will get is Miller Minies.
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/16 12:36 AM

Originally Posted By: Chickenman
I'm obsessed with making sure my squash doesn't take over the ground and has something to climb. Made these for them.



Chicknenman, will that work for cucumbers?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/16 12:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Old Rabbit
Originally Posted By: Chickenman
I'm obsessed with making sure my squash doesn't take over the ground and has something to climb. Made these for them. Left row are the cucumbers.



Chicknenman, will that work for cucumbers?


This is my first year doing cucumbers. Best to have a pro answer that one. I am trying wire for mine. Some have latched on and others are getting put on manually. So far so good.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/16 12:57 AM

Cukes climb more than squash, you could run net wire with t posts.



just need to train them

Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/16 01:12 AM

Payne, do you thin your grapes at all? These are 2-3 year old's, covered in grapes for such a small vine yet.

I realized I should have got closer for the photo now.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/16 01:17 AM

I thin the smaller bunches but I have a canopy type set up
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/16 01:41 AM

Ok, my "bunches" are all about the same size. These are the purple grapes, the green grapes are the same age, but seem to be much slower in growth.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/16 01:44 AM

thin the small bunches, make sure they don't rub
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/16 01:49 AM

Great point, didn't think about rubbing, especially around the fence.

Had my Spinosad mixed, but found no sign of bugs on the vines, sure that will change as they sweeten, went ahead and coverd the little fruit tree's, love that stuff..
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/16 01:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Old Rabbit
Originally Posted By: Chickenman
I'm obsessed with making sure my squash doesn't take over the ground and has something to climb. Made these for them.



Chicknenman, will that work for cucumbers?


Was thinking the same thing, may steal your idea for my cukes
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/16 01:30 PM

I use a regular store bought tomato cage for my cucumbers.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/16 09:04 PM

I went ahead and dug up the rest of my potatoes because of the rain forecast. Take a look.



There are 12 ounce potatoes in there
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/16 05:27 PM

Stuffed bell peppers for dinner tonight, and some to freeze.

Posted By: TimOub007

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/16 12:26 AM

Good stuff Bill. My bells from last year made it through the winter and we never really ran out. Those have been my best vegetable as far as success goes. Onions did very well this year too for the first time ever.

T
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/16 01:48 AM

Sweet peppers and purple bells are coming in good. Cucumbers are blooming strong. Lots of good rain up here. Haven't hardly had to hand water.



Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/16 01:08 PM

Looks great CM!, you're weeks ahead of me easy!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/16 03:08 PM



Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/16 03:22 PM

That's a lot of pickles Payne. How many caladium bulbs did you put in that one pot?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/16 03:26 PM

one in each pot there and in a double row along the house, they all sprouted. That was the biggest one so far.
Posted By: Texas Tatonkas

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/16 05:58 PM

Bill how is your garden doing with all the rain?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/16 08:06 PM

It has done great. It's about done now. I've put up all the tomatoes I planned. I'll just need a few slicers in the future. It was my best potato and onion year. I wrote earlier that you could just leave your onions in the ground. That might not work this year.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/01/16 03:06 PM

Been busy with dad but mine is looking great (need to pull weeds from around the edge) I watered when I first planted and have not had to water one more time since then. My tomatoes are going to be turning red any day. Have had a few cherry tomatoes, a bell pepper and 3-4 Jalapenos but that has been it so far. All of y'all are looking great!
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/02/16 01:30 AM

Leaf footed bugs are terrible at my place. Last year, I had them identified as assassin bugs but then they ate my tomatoes up. This year they die.

Figs are coming in stronger than ever. Cucumbers are too.

First pickings. Squash, zucchini, squash zucchini, and a purple bell.




Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/02/16 03:17 PM

The older boy looks like he's still mad over the $1 for stacking wood.
Posted By: SnakeWrangler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/02/16 04:57 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
The older boy looks like he's still mad over the $1 for stacking wood.
rofl

Figs do look good....I love figs!
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/16 04:36 PM

Posted By: SnakeWrangler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/16 05:12 PM

OKRA! banana2
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/16 12:29 PM

Originally Posted By: SnakeWrangler
OKRA! banana2


eeks333 I have even planted mine yet!. Planted okra late last Spring and they did better in the heat then the rest of the garden, but okra likes the heat.
Posted By: SnakeWrangler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/16 05:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: SnakeWrangler
OKRA! banana2


eeks333 I have even planted mine yet!. Planted okra late last Spring and they did better in the heat then the rest of the garden, but okra likes the heat.

That's why I was shocked he had any yet....we never had okra til late June or July....I love okra.... food
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/16 02:30 PM

Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/16 06:43 PM

up
our zucchini plants look great, full of blooms, but has only put on one zucchini ... plants keep growing, and keeps putting on blooms, but seems like the blooms fall off and no fruit (veggie)??? any idea what's going on with that?
Posted By: poisonivie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/16 07:38 PM

Where are yall finding those old timey fruit baskets? I haven't seen any in forever.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/16 07:51 PM

Originally Posted By: PMK
up
our zucchini plants look great, full of blooms, but has only put on one zucchini ... plants keep growing, and keeps putting on blooms, but seems like the blooms fall off and no fruit (veggie)??? any idea what's going on with that?


They all start that way. Hang on for a couple more days.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/16 10:11 PM

hmmm ... we cut our first zucchini 2 weeks ago ... only one that has made from a dozen or more blooms ... but will keep hanging
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/16 11:00 PM

The plants male blooms will fall off because they released their pollen and are no longer needed. Another reason is that the female blooms didn't get pollinated well and will fall off, do you see bees/butterflies around the plant? Also the rain could have made the pollen not to transfer from male to female.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/16 12:56 PM

will check or get the wife to check for bees/butterflies ... never thought about the rain washing pollen off.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/16 02:24 PM

I pulled up the remainder of my purple onions today. I plan to keep them in my vegetable crisper. Here you go.

Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/16 03:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
The plants male blooms will fall off because they released their pollen and are no longer needed. Another reason is that the female blooms didn't get pollinated well and will fall off, do you see bees/butterflies around the plant? Also the rain could have made the pollen not to transfer from male to female.


Another good reason not to use much poison, need those pollinators up
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/16 10:15 PM

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/16 12:52 AM

bread & butter? iPhone 4S?
Posted By: KC

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/16 02:18 AM

This is my first year to grow a garden. Tilled in about 10 bucket loads of hay and manure from the feed yard last year and let it lay. Already figured out I didn't allow near enough space between plants, will use 3x as much space for the same amount of plants next year. Had fresh squash with every meal for a week now, and cilantro before that.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/16 02:49 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
bread & butter? iPhone 4S?


Bread and Butter. iPhone6+. Shes a baller.

Not a fan of spaghetti squash. Megatron is though.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/16 01:12 PM

I had never had spaghetti squash about 3 years ago. I was on a high protein and very low carb/sugar/fat lifestyle change when I found spaghetti squash. We cook in the microwave, scrape out seeds/membrane, shred lengthwise with a fork, then cover with meaty sauce. Hard to tell from pasta noodles.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/16 01:48 PM

I plan to make another batch of stuffed peppers Monday. These beauties are just too perfect to give away



Peppers are difficult for me to keep all the way to color. This one will soon turn red if the sun spot doesn't turn brown first. Fingers crossed.




My watermelon vines are looking great but no melons yet.


Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/09/16 11:37 PM

I planted two months behind schedule but should be producing soon

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/16 12:25 AM

Looks good, what did you plant?
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/16 12:44 PM

Not much, few japs and some celebrities. Half those plants are from ones that dropped their fruit in the grow beds and grew from seeds

There are red wigglers in the grow beds and they make quick compost of them
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/16 01:42 AM

I'd like to get more rain but its going well.



Going to make mroe pickles this weekend.



I think its time she makes her final trip to the rotisserie.



found a Cardinal chick in the garden. Theres a king snake in there too.

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/16 01:24 PM



Cucumber crop may need help to thrive
By Kathy HuberJune 10, 2016








Photo: Johnny Hanson, Staff
IMAGE 1 OF 2 Chef, Jason Robinson pics a cucumber blossom in the greenhouse in one of the many garden areas at the Dost Brisas resort Sunday, April 6, 2008 in Washington. The Inn at Dos Brisas is known for its fine dining ... more
Q: My tomatoes are doing great. Record crop. My cucumbers are a different story. Several cucumber plants ran up the lattice, jumped over to the tomato cages, produced lots of blooms but only two cucumbers. What is the problem?


Ellen Wilkinson, Houston

A: Congratulations on your record tomato crop. With better pollination, you'll likely be able to add more cucumbers to your sandwiches and salads.

Early pollination problems are fairly common in the curcurbit family. This includes cucumbers, squash, zucchini, cantaloupes and pumpkins. A plant will produce male and female blooms, but male blooms often appear before the first female blooms appear and then become more numerous. It's easy to see the difference between the flowers. The male blossom is carried on a slender stalk. The female blossom has the swollen embryonic fruit attached at the base.

Pollination is most likely when the blossoms of both sexes are open and fertile, which occurs only during the morning hours of one day. During this time, bees or other insects must transfer pollen between the sexes. So avoid pesticides that harm bees. Inclement weather also can prevent bees from doing their work.

GARDENING

What's blooming in your garden? Share your photos Gardening events in the Houston area Cucumber crop may need help to thrive Summer color that can take the summer heat Bromeliads have a passionate following
You can help by transferring pollen from the male flower's pollen-producing stamen to the female flower's stigma with a small paintbrush or cotton swab. Or you can remove the stamen and rub the pollen on the stigma. Otherwise, the female flower will close without being fertilized and drop in a few days. The male bloom may open a second day, but the pollen will no longer be fertile, and the blossom will close, wilt and drop from the plant.

Q: I've tried several times to grow dill and cilantro inside and outside and found them extremely difficult.

Hilary Thompson, Missouri City

A: Both dill and cilantro are best in our cool-season garden. Sow seed or set transplants outdoors in the fall in a sunny, well-draining area. Dill has a deep root and may be easier for you in a raised bed.

The herbs will grow until the heat becomes too intense for them in late spring. Harvest often during the growing season. If you leave the flowers to set seed, you may see self-sown volunteer plants in the future.

Meanwhile, basil loves a Houston summer. Grow this fragrant herb in pots and a sunny, well-draining bed. Pinch often to encourage new leaves rich in essential oils and to discourage flower production, which diminishes leaf flavor.


Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/16 12:36 PM

Love on them bee's fellas, they work hard to put food on your table up
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/16 02:41 PM

My garden is about done except for my watermelons. Here are a couple I found among the vines.




Most are irregular like this one.

Posted By: Cast

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/16 04:00 PM

That's gotta be from over watering due to all the rain.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/17/16 01:14 AM

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/17/16 12:19 PM

Great start to a new page.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/17/16 10:41 PM

My tomatoes look good but nothing is ready to pick.

Red bird chick is doing well



Kids picking



The bounty



Hope to pickle these tomorrow

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/16 01:58 PM



Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/16 02:26 PM

up
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/16 04:06 PM

cheers up
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/16 06:15 PM

Not near as much planted as most of you fellas, got ran over by the 8 ball.

Have squash, Charleston melons, pickle cucs, cantaloupe, a couple peppers, tomatoes and corn. Still want to get okra in if I get a chance soon..



Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/16 11:13 PM

Mine is all done. I've pulled everything up except my watermelons, and jalapeos.. I plan to pickle some jalapeos Friday and pull them up.
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/23/16 12:37 AM

I've got tomatoes on the vine their just starting to get red and oh so good!
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/23/16 02:55 PM

we typically leave our tomato plants in place even after they quite producing, keep on watering, and then when the ground temp starts to cool off, they are fully mature plants and start producing considerably heavier than my spring crop.
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/23/16 03:04 PM

Anyone have tomato plants that have turned brown toward the bottom? Tops look good for now but the brown (fungus?) is slowly taking over. We did get quite a few tomato's though. First time to try cucumbers and they have not done well.
Posted By: poisonivie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/23/16 09:44 PM

I have more tomatoes than I have ever grown. It's unreal. I get 5-6 Beefsteaks per day and probably 20-30 cherries every day. I feel like a farmer now. Onions are good but corn, canteloupes, water melons, okra sucks. Blackeyed peas and snow peas are doing fairly well. Squash is more than I can eat but not a bumper crop. Jalepenos and Seranos are growing like crazy.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/16 02:57 PM

This is the last of mine except for my watermelons.

Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/16 10:37 PM

My cucumbers were not thinned enough when they came up so they were growing over each other. Okra did not do well due to not having enough sun. Will probably have about 18 pints of tomato's.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/16 02:47 PM


Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/16 03:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Chickenman




Ever pickle okra?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/16 03:49 PM

No sir. Okra doesn't last long around here. I keep a hot pot of grease going on the weekends grin
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/16 04:12 PM

Getting a little out of hand.....

Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/16 05:30 PM

Looking good everyone. It's salsa time at my house. Gonna pull onions today and have a lot more maters and peppers too.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/16 06:37 PM

Tomatoes should always be placed stem side down, but what the heck.
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/16 08:56 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Tomatoes should always be placed stem side down, but what the heck.

Indubitably.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/16 02:03 PM

Originally Posted By: mrmo
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Tomatoes should always be placed stem side down, but what the heck.

Indubitably.


Why?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/16 02:18 PM

Originally Posted By: skinnerback
Originally Posted By: mrmo
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Tomatoes should always be placed stem side down, but what the heck.

Indubitably.


Why?


That is the end you will eventually cut off. Look at them in the grocery store.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/16 02:24 PM

Makes sense I guess, I will try to do better in the future.
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/16 06:51 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: skinnerback
Originally Posted By: mrmo
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Tomatoes should always be placed stem side down, but what the heck.

Indubitably.


Why?


That is the end you will eventually cut off. Look at them in the grocery store.

Good guess, it's so they don't roll around.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/02/16 11:31 PM

Rocky Tops are about ready. Looking forward to those.



Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/02/16 11:39 PM

Great start to a new page. I'd like to have one of those cucumbers for my next garden salad. There's a great recipe on the cooking forum.
Posted By: Texas Tatonkas

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/05/16 03:54 AM

I finally beat the hail and bad gardening skills and have all my stuff coming through strong here in New Mexico. Once I figure out how to post pics from an iPhone I'll get them on here
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/06/16 11:25 PM

Looks like we over looked one ..... several times grin

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/06/16 11:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Chickenman
Looks like we over looked one ..... several times grin




She's beautiful. What is her name?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/07/16 12:57 AM

That one is Rose.

Picked green tomatoes. Leaf footed bugs are on the rampage again. Figs are coming in too.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/16 06:00 PM

I left around a half dozen 1015 onions in my garden. They were the smaller ones. I brought one in today to go with my fajitas tonight. It was in better shape than the ones in my frig.

Also, should I stop watering my watermelons? I've been turning the dripper on once a week. They are not thumping ripe yet.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/10/16 10:26 PM

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/20/16 08:28 PM

This is a first for me. This watermelon split open in the garden. I don't plan to plant them next yrar.

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/24/16 02:48 PM

Just in case you didn't see this on the cooking foru.



Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I've tried all the old fashion ways over the years and they have all worked fine except for the work involved. Last summer my neighbor brought me some sweet corn from his family farm. I just trimmed it off like this,



and put it in a plastic grocery bag. I thought I had eaten all of last years batch but I found a couple of ears in the freezer. I simply stuck one in the microwave for two minutes and and end up with this.




It was still like fresh from the farm.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/25/16 08:31 PM

My garden grew pretty good but I just haven't had time to mess with it since dad has been in the hospital. I made one batch (8 jars) of salsa. The rest has rotted away. Pulled most of it yesterday. I left a few Tomato plants and a couple of pepper plants. Maybe next year.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/26/16 11:43 PM

Did you eave your onions in the ground? They will keep that way.
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/27/16 02:48 AM

Planted 12 determinant tomato plants on Sunday the 24th along with 3 hills of pickling cucumbers. Have 3 90 for rows of purple hull peas up about 3" with 5 rows that I though were finished that have started blooming like crazy. The wife pulled up the green beans and wants 4 more rows. It's been a good year just need some rain.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/27/16 06:27 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Did you eave your onions in the ground? They will keep that way.


Yes, so far so good.
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/27/16 10:13 PM

The sales person at our local feed and seed told my wife she could plant onions now for a fall garden. Will they grow this time of the year? Has anyone on here planted them in July or August?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/27/16 11:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Old Rabbit
The sales person at our local feed and seed told my wife she could plant onions now for a fall garden. Will they grow this time of the year? Has anyone on here planted them in July or August?


I've never had success with them at this time of the year.
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/28/16 02:44 AM

My tomato plants are still putting out flowers & small tomato's will they come back around in the fall and produce tomato's until 1st frost?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/28/16 01:23 PM

if you can keep them alive they'll produce in the fall
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/28/16 11:10 PM

Bill, that is what I was thinking. I guess we will try some just to satisfy my wife. That is if she can find any.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/05/16 03:33 PM

2016 garden went well and still is.

The burgundy okra is hard even when picked young. Not planting that again.

Got tired of pickling. Had to kill off my cucumber plants. Next year, I will not do 15 plants. Maybe 10.

Tired of eating squash. Next year, I will only plant 2.

Gold zucchini is great. I'll plant that again for sure.

Regular zucchini grew great but did not produce like the squash.

Zucchini squash hybrid was terrible but grew well.

My large tomatoes are doing well. I wish I planted more so next year, I will.

Spaghetti squash was an experiment. It chokes a lot of plants until I cut it back or moved the vines. I picked a BUNCH but not one was spaghetti like. Strange. Not planting this again.

Bells and japs did better than ever this year this year. They require more water than I expected. Proud of the purple bells. I just wish it was a thicker fruit.

4 years without a large poblano. Strange. Not sure why.

Tried tomatillo this year. Its huge and is still flowering but has not produced a single fruit.

Fig tree produced a bumper crop but suddenly stopped. I did water the tree well. Odd.

I got one pear off my pear tree. Its young. Maybe next year will be better.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/05/16 03:58 PM

I concur on the purple bell. I've planted them twice. Never again. It's only big tomatoes for me. Onions and potatoes did great. Only plant squash and zucchini on the ends of my rows. Cucumbers go on tomato cages. I'm down to four rows.

Plan to plant something in September.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/05/16 05:38 PM

I have never planted a winter garden but will start prepping the ground.

What are you guys growing in winter?

It does get below 32 several times a year here. Ice and snow are not real common but not uncommon.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/05/16 07:49 PM

kale, broccoli, beets, spinach, cauliflower, lettuce, cabbage and carrots
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/08/16 01:07 PM

we keep our tomato plants live through the heat of the summer and they produce even better in the fall since they are fully mature with a good root system, just have to wait for the ground temp to drop enough and they start blooming like crazy. That is all we have in the fall garden other than the asparagus bed.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/08/16 01:28 PM

Originally Posted By: PMK
we keep our tomato plants live through the heat of the summer and they produce even better in the fall since they are fully mature with a good root system, just have to wait for the ground temp to drop enough and they start blooming like crazy. That is all we have in the fall garden other than the asparagus bed.


x2 - if freeze comes while fall-maters are green we pluck them and wrap separately in newspaper; they ripen over the next several weeks providing us 'fresh ripe' tomatoes thru x-mas!
Posted By: poisonivie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/08/16 03:18 PM

I'm still getting 20-30 cherry maters per day and 3-4 Romas.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/18/16 01:57 PM

I sowed some broccoli and cauliflower seeds on a row and raked them in last Friday. Looks as if I will get a good stand. I already have at least 100 seedlings.



It still a long road to transplanting the.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/18/16 02:59 PM

we went out and cut back our asparagus last weekend. Our zucchini is still blooming and putting on fruit, okra still producing some.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/27/16 04:11 PM

My volunteer cilantro is coming up around the edges of my garden.
Posted By: mikei

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/03/16 01:02 PM

It's the 3rd of September and my banana peppers don't seem to realize that their growing season is over! I'm getting 8-10 a day, and they're still setting blossoms!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/10/16 03:45 PM

I just transplanted a dozen broccoli plants. Fingers crossed hoping the squirrels don't get them.
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/10/16 06:15 PM

I've shot 3 of them tree rats this last week in my garden digging.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/11/16 06:37 PM

Originally Posted By: mrmo
I've shot 3 of them tree rats this last week in my garden digging.
bastages...... What time did you get them? I think they come out early morning and I wanted to get the youngin into hunting.lol

Ive been seeing some droppings that didnt look like tree rats but I also smelled urine. I was looking online for a match on the droppings and really didnt see anything. I guess I will start to put up rat traps around the garden to find out. I have seen them in the tree next to my garden.... elmer aim rifle
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/21/16 03:05 PM

My cilantro is ready for the kitchen.



About 60 percent of my broccoli made it through the hot spell.




My mustards and turnips are up.

Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/21/16 05:16 PM

Went out to water today I've been keeping my tomatoes plants alive all summer bet I have 20 new tomatoes!
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/02/16 02:43 PM

After getting tips from my elders, I got the garden turned and ready for a fall/winter garden.

Collards
Kale
Broccoli
Chard
Cabbage
Cauliflower
More to add....

I am limited to how much I can plant due to the winter sun. We'll see how it turns out.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/05/16 01:26 PM

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/05/16 02:38 PM

We entered into a discussion about storing onions back in the spring. I stored mine in the vegetable crisper. I'm still using them but not for long.



My broccoli and cauliflower is doing fine. You can see turnips and mustards in the upper left corner.



My cilantro is doing great.




I used some in this dish.

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Remember that movie called Forrest Gump where Bubba went on and on about ways to serve shrimp? I'd take any of those dishes, but shrimp scampi is one of my favorites. It's quick and does well as leftovers. I put cilantro and capers in there tonight.. Here you go.




I had to use store bought capers. I don't know how to grow them.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/05/16 04:42 PM









Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/05/16 08:16 PM

I'm jealous Payne.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/05/16 08:22 PM

Me too. That's BA.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/05/16 08:32 PM

Originally Posted By: skinnerback
I'm jealous Payne.


I've done a couple of loads over the years. I have to spread it by hand.

Did you go with the potting soil mix or compost only?
Posted By: S.A. hunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/05/16 08:44 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: skinnerback
I'm jealous Payne.


I've done a couple of loads over the years. I have to spread it by hand.

Did you go with the potting soil mix or compost only?


I had to haul 3 yards out of my pickup into a wheelbarrow and into the back yard. Up hill and up the second tier. Pita! So yeah I'm jealous too.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/05/16 09:01 PM

7 yards of top soil, going to get 4 yards of mushroom compost to mix/disc in with the soil.
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/05/16 09:05 PM

How often do you bring in the soil and compost in this quantity?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/05/16 09:11 PM

every 2-3 years for the compost.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/05/16 10:31 PM

Thats cool... I guess.
Posted By: TimOub007

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/07/16 03:36 AM

Bill,

After pulling my 10/15Y onions several months back I left them on my back porch table for a good while. My wife would get what she needed each time until some started to get soft. We then moved them inside the vegetable crisper like you mentioned. I think that they lasted until just a couple of weeks ago.

Looking forward to putting some in the ground again later this month. I think she wants red onions this year. I prefer the sweetness of the 10/15s so may do both.

T
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/07/16 06:42 AM

I'm starting to think it might be better to pay one of you guys for my veggies.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/10/16 02:58 PM

7 yards of compost










Lavaca tomato
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/17/16 02:54 PM

I might be able to add some. The sun is shining on a little more than I figured.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/17/16 10:56 PM

looks good, what are you growing?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/18/16 12:09 AM

Collards
Kale
Broccoli
Chard
Cabbage
Cauliflower
Some weird broccoli (small heads)
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/18/16 12:38 AM

sounds like a plan, best of luck
Posted By: Herbie Hancock

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/18/16 08:22 PM

I have some lettuce coming in strong and a rogue tomato plant that I am going to let grow.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/31/16 03:34 PM

I plan to cook up some mustards and turnips Friday, along with scratch cornbread, fried pork chops, blackened peas, and chow-chow.



I'm looking forward to steamed broccoli , Sunday to go along with my grilled tenderloin, and baked potato.



The hot October has caused my cilantro to bolt.




Maybe, just maybe I will have a few slicer


tomatoes to make turkey, bacon clubs, with my leftover turkey during the holidays.



This was a volunteer that I transplanted on the south side of my house.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/06/16 07:48 PM

Fall/Winter garden is doing well.

Any idea what these black spots are on my greens?



How about this white stuff? Only 5 or 6 patches of it.



Everything coming together. I am going to add about 10 more plants to it in 2 weeks.



Cleaned up the other garden. Need to get it turned and covered. Planning on planting cantaloupe in this spot in spring.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/06/16 08:35 PM

Alternaria leaf spot and white mold/fungus.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/10/16 03:07 PM

A plant's mission is to reproduce. Here's a second and third head of broccoli after the primary head was harvested. They will continue to produce.



This is a shot of my two rows this fall.




This is one of my broccoli heads that are ready to harvest.




My turnips are up, they are bulbing, and I got a good stand. Turnips are a lot like carrots in that they will take on several taste depending on how they are stewed. I plan to put some in my next pot roast.

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/23/16 09:36 PM

Here are more second growth broccoli heads.



This is third growth.




I still have full heads.




My turnips are now baseball size. I plan to put some in my turkey hot and sour soup.




My mustard greens are gigantic and still tender. Look out ham hocks.

Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/23/16 09:42 PM

Nice
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/24/16 02:52 AM

Broccoli is coming in. I forgot the verity.

Cabbage is looking good too.


Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/24/16 01:20 PM

You need to cut the broccoli when you see the first yellow.
Posted By: poisonivie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/25/16 03:41 PM

I'm still picking tomatoes and peppers.
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/26/16 12:18 AM

I picked everything I could the middle of last week, good thing as it was 25 degrees Saturday the 19th. It got everything in the garden and all of the flower beds. Sure will be missing home grown tomatoes for a while.
Looking good Bill.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/29/16 10:03 PM

This one won the prize. I plan to cut it tomorrow.

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/11/16 03:10 PM

My broccoli is all but gone. I pulled up about half of them this morning. The cauliflower is yer to head. I've had it by thanksgiving in the ast.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/17 06:32 PM

I tilled up my onion row this morning . It's ready to plant as soon as the onion sets are in the stores. I got mine from Home Depot last year. I just called them. They do not have them yet. Anyone seen them in the feed and seed stores?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/17 06:53 PM

They're out at my feed store.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/17 07:36 PM

Bare rooted plants or bulbs? I've heard both called onion sets.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/17 07:39 PM

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/17 05:14 PM

Ta da, I got them off the Bonnie truck as they were unloading at Home Depot.

Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/17 05:23 PM

I need to get mine planted early this year for once. maybe Saturday.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/17 11:56 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Bare rooted plants or bulbs? I've heard both called onion sets.


I've never know of the bulbs making goos onions. Have any of you?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/14/17 08:57 PM

My potatoes go in the ground next. Anyone seen any seed potatoes in the stores?
Posted By: LonestarCobra

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/17 01:58 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
My potatoes go in the ground next. Anyone seen any seed potatoes in the stores?


I saw them at our local feed store this morning. It will be March before I plant mine.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/17 10:52 PM

I planted mine today. You can heap dirt back over potatoes before a freeze and they will keep on ticking.
Posted By: phat694

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/20/17 03:40 AM

Any of y'all have fruit trees? I'm planning on planting a few this spring. Most likely apple and pear.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/20/17 03:08 PM

we have peach and plum ... one peach is Sam Houston, that little booger is already covered in leaves and blooms popping out but it has a very low chill hour rating (I would not recommend for any colder area), the other peach tree has only produced 2 times in the past 10 or so year as it has a very high chill hour rating and we don't get enough cold weather here (Georgetown) for it to set blooms very often. I do not recall on the plum.

I have thought about planting a pear tree or two, but it would have to be outside my fenced yard (where 2 of the others are) and I don't think I could keep the deer off of them to get a good start, they hammer on the one peach tree that is outside the yard, but it's a older tree that I transplanted from inside the yard when we determined it didn't produce.
Posted By: Herbie Hancock

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/20/17 03:11 PM

We are also considering fruit tress this year, we are going to a meyer lemon, some type of orange tree and thinking an avocado tree. The wife was wanting to do a peach tree but my cousin was telling me they rely on cross pollination, I don't want to get multiple peach trees, Id rather have variety.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/20/17 03:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Herbie Hancock
We are also considering fruit tress this year, we are going to a meyer lemon, some type of orange tree and thinking an avocado tree. The wife was wanting to do a peach tree but my cousin was telling me they rely on cross pollination, I don't want to get multiple peach trees, Id rather have variety.


the Sam Houston is a self-pollinating variety of peach tree and should work well down in the Houston area. Just have to be careful once it puts on blooms about any freezing temperatures. I built a pseudo frame around ours, use garden netting and put either a few of drop cord lights or quartz free standing shop lights if the temperature will be below 32.
Posted By: Herbie Hancock

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/20/17 03:25 PM

Ok I will look into those then.
Posted By: East

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/21/17 03:54 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne


Your feed store has a foundation problem
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/21/17 11:10 AM

I have several fruit trees, would have to dig in my box of tags to recall what cultivar each is. 2 pear, 2 plums, 2 apricots, 2 peach and 3 apple with a crab apple to help apple pollination.

What CR said about chill hrs is important, here is a good site to check your average chill hrs (anything 40* and under) Use the map link to find a local station number

http://getchill.net/

Try to find trees grown close, Womack nursury is a darn good place for trees in North/ Central Texas
https://womacknursery.com/
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/21/17 11:10 AM

BTW, Most of my trees are semi-dwarf, to keep size down somewhat
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/29/17 08:29 PM

Started the seeds today.

Pepper: Jalapeno
Pepper: Pablano / Ancho
Pepper: California Wonder Bell
Squash: Prolific Straightneck Summer Squash
Zucchini: Black Beauty Summer Squash
Sugar Snow Pea
Pea: Black Eyed Pea
Bean: Top Crop
Asparagus: Mary Washington Asparagus
Cantaloupe: Hearts of Gold
Watermelon: Sugar Baby
Tomato: Roma
Tomato: Large Red Cherry
Tomato: Beefsteak
Cucumber: Boston Pickling




Tiller carb ws shot. Wasn't able to clean it enough to keep the machine running. Installed the new carb this morning. Busted off and purred like a kitten on the first pull.

Saved $100 by making a furrower. It started with a shovel. Used scraps that I had laying around. Not bad.












Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/29/17 08:38 PM

WTG Chickenman! up All I have managed so far is till the garden roflmao
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/29/17 08:43 PM

I hope to spray mine today if the wind can lay low for a while. My son will turn the garden. He loves it. I do too actually. We trade off. One tills while the other picks up rocks. I'm loaded with 4" rocks up here.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/29/17 08:51 PM

When I was a kid, our house garden was full of rocks, 3" on down, but some of the richest dirt you could find, grandad said a few rocks help hold moisture. This was outside (north) of Harrison Ark.

Fresh till earth sure does have it's draws, even when just to clean up between rows, just feels "tidy"
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/29/17 08:53 PM

Nice job on the furrower. Did you plant the asparagus in the garden or in it's own bed?

Do you have pics of the old carb? roflmao
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/29/17 09:35 PM

Figured I sow the seeds first. Everyone I have talked to has said it can't be done. We'll see. I'm not optimistic.

Worst part about the old carb was when I threw it, it went clean through my damn boat cover. Highly disappointing.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/29/17 10:32 PM

rofl
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/30/17 01:53 PM

roflmao
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/30/17 02:17 PM

Dang Chickenman, that's like blaming the cabinet door for hitting your noggin grin Better revenge would have been to incorporate it into your "custom build" roflmao
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/30/17 04:03 PM

better picture of the pots. Hard to tell but thats 51 pots.


Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/30/17 08:28 PM

Looks like cups to me
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/30/17 10:21 PM

I just can't do that. It's like losing a pet if they freeze.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/30/17 10:36 PM

It's just a plant
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/30/17 10:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
It's just a plant


No, no, no, my babies.
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/17 03:24 AM

Chickenman, what are you spraying your garden with? And what does it do for you?
Have mine burned off and ready to till this week if the rain holds off.
Thanks.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/17 05:33 PM

I just tilled up my tomato row. The moister was just right for tilling. None stuck to my tiller. I'm only putting out a dozen tomato plants this year. That's more than I can put up and give away. I plan to buy them when I see the next 6 packs for sale. I'll put them in when I get a 10 day frost free forecast.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/17 06:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Old Rabbit
Chickenman, what are you spraying your garden with? And what does it do for you?
Have mine burned off and ready to till this week if the rain holds off.
Thanks.


20% VINEGAR first then SPECTRACIDE weed and grass killer if needed. Its always needed dunce

I'd like a strict organic approach but organic products lack one thing. Actually working.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/17 06:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Chickenman
Originally Posted By: Old Rabbit
Chickenman, what are you spraying your garden with? And what does it do for you?
Have mine burned off and ready to till this week if the rain holds off.
Thanks.


20% VINEGAR first then SPECTRACIDE weed and grass killer if needed. Its always needed dunce

I'd like a strict organic approach but organic products lack one thing. Actually working.


IDK, a hoe in the hands of kids is a pretty good organic approach scared

Have you tried a winter cover crop and mulch between rows? I usually end up with a couple inches of hay, if it's thick enough, not much grows through it other than CRABGRASS bang That is the weed I have been at war with for 2 years..
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/17 06:26 PM

I till between my rows and hoe around the plants. My drip system mostly waters the plants. I don't have much weeds unless its a wet year.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/17 07:36 PM

Crabgrass is what I deal with. I have layered a garden with newspaper, mulch, straw, leaves, and more. Nothing stopped grass except black landscape fabric.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/17 07:47 PM

If you keep it on during the summer it will burn a lot of weed seeds up.
Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/17 11:02 PM

Decided to pot a pepper plant and see how many years I can keep it going. Pulled these off this weekend.

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/17 11:29 PM

Those are beautiful Hancock. I'm on my last jar of pickled peppers. Using some tonight for my nachos.
Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/17 01:25 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Those are beautiful Hancock. I'm on my last jar of pickled peppers. Using some tonight for my nachos.


They are much hotter than when it was the garden.
Posted By: LFD2037

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/17 04:19 AM

Y'all seem to be very knowledgeable about gardening & it all seems so overwhelming to me! I want to do a couple raised flower beds (or are they called garden beds or ???) this spring but I know NOTHING about gardening. We want to grow the basics. We're thinking zucchini, squash, tomatoes, jalapeno, bells, corn & any others y'all recommend.
W/out going back & reading this 144 page thread, will y'all answer a few questions for me?
What type wood for the frame?
What size is good for a newbie (height, width, depth)?
What type soil do I fill them with?
Are tilled rows required in a raised bed?
Good plants for a newbie to start with?
Plants from HD/Lowes okay to use?
When should I plant the first plants?
How often do I water?
Do I use fertilizer or manure or ?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/17 01:35 PM

Originally Posted By: LFD2037
Y'all seem to be very knowledgeable about gardening & it all seems so overwhelming to me! I want to do a couple raised flower beds (or are they called garden beds or ???) this spring but I know NOTHING about gardening. We want to grow the basics. We're thinking zucchini, squash, tomatoes, jalapeno, bells, corn & any others y'all recommend. Skip the corn.
W/out going back & reading this 144 page thread, will y'all answer a few questions for me?
What type wood for the frame? Treated will do.
What size is good for a newbie (height, width, depth)? Rows 3 feet apart as long as you have.

What type soil do I fill them with? Potting soil.
Are tilled rows required in a raised bed? Not required but better depending on soil.
Good plants for a newbie to start with? Tomatoes, bell peppers, cucumbers, onions, and squash.

Plants from HD/Lowes okay to use? That's what I use.
When should I plant the first plants? After last frost.
How often do I water? Depends on the rain. Twice per week should do.
Do I use fertilizer or manure or ? Both is it's available. Always use fertilizer.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/17 02:13 PM

LFD2037,

Not an expect but this has been my experience...

What type wood for the frame? - I think anything would work. I wouldn't use treated wood.
What size is good for a newbie (height, width, depth)? 4x8' and till as deep as you can
What type soil do I fill them with? - topsoil - you will probably need a yard to 1.5 yards per bed
Are tilled rows required in a raised bed? - tilled. no need for rows in smaller beds
Good plants for a newbie to start with? - squash, tomatoes, peppers, and so on
Plants from HD/Lowes okay to use? - local feed stores are 1/2 the price
When should I plant the first plants? - when is the last freeze? after the last freeze
How often do I water? - as needed. dont water on days when you know it will rain.
Do I use fertilizer or manure or ? - look for 7-7-7 fertilizer
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/17 02:39 PM

Also, onions will take a frost or even a freeze. I've had treated landscape timbers around my garden for 40 years. The outside rows do fine.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/17 03:16 PM

What type wood for the frame? Cedar

What size is good for a newbie (height, width, depth)? I'd use 2x12's in either a 3x6' or 4x8' frame


What type soil do I fill them with? Top soil mixed with compost, you should be able to get it at a garden center


Are tilled rows required in a raised bed? no


Good plants for a newbie to start with? plant what you'll eat or it's wasted space and time


Plants from HD/Lowes okay to use? They sell single plants for $3 or more, you can get 4 packs or 6 packs from feed stores for $3


When should I plant the first plants? Mid March, if there's a late freeze cover them


How often do I water? stick your index finger in the soil up to the first knuckle, if it's dry water.


Do I use fertilizer or manure or ? if you go with the top soil/compost mix you should be fine. You can use epsom salt for a foliage spray after they are established. Mix a table spoon of epsom to a gallon of water and spray on the leaves every two weeks.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/17 04:47 PM

Where I live, we have solid limestone, so we had to do the elevated beds. I went to Home Depot and bought the 3.5x3.5x8 landscape timber (rounded sides with flat on top & bottom), bought 12 and had 4 of those cut in half, overlapped the ends & stacked 4 high and used 4 deck screws to make a 4x8x1 deep frame. It took slightly over a yard of garden soil from a local landscaping place to get started but we add a few inches of new garden soil each year before planting. We add the soil on top and then use a spading fork to break up existing soil and mix in the new soil prior to planting. We buy our plants typically at a local feed store but have bought from Home Depot too when we were too late to get from the feed store (sold out). We usually plant tomatoes (several varieties, Celebrity, Early Girl and some type of sweet cherry and/or grape), about 3 of the large variety and 3 of the cherry/grape and that leaves room for 3-4 squash/zucchini plants. We sometimes plant peppers (banana, jalapeno) between the squash mounds. That is a pretty full 4x8 elevated bed. We water every other to every 3rd day depending on rain fall and soil moisture by feel. Depending on where you live, find out the average last freeze date and that should help with when you plant stuff. A friend supplies tomatoes to a local hamburger place and has 40-50 tomato plants, he uses 13-13-13 which I tried last year but evidently got too much and burned my tomatoes, use caution on how much you use!
Posted By: LFD2037

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/17 04:57 PM

Fantastic info. guys. Thanks!!!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/17 07:25 PM








They claim this tomato will weigh 2-4 pounds, we shall see.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/17 07:43 PM

eek2
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/02/17 12:30 AM

I want one. I like my tomato to cover my whole sandwich.
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/03/17 09:48 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne


They claim this tomato will weigh 2-4 pounds, we shall see.


TAG popcorn
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/03/17 11:46 PM

Any of you fellas want this stuff? If you're close and need it to pot seedlings, here ya go. Going to put it in a large trash bag. Most are the 3" seedling starter size

Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/17 04:54 PM

Lots of sprouts.


Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/05/17 04:11 PM

Ta da, potatoes are cracking the ground.



My onions have taken root.



Cilantro anyone? I'm loaded.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/06/17 03:53 PM










$5 gimmick I thought I'd give a try. Need to redo my strawberry planters.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/06/17 05:34 PM

I found the six packs of Better Boy tomatoes this morning. Each one contained a double. I separated them and planted 14 tomatoes. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/06/17 05:56 PM

$3?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/17 12:38 AM

Progress

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/17 12:41 AM

Looking good CMan.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/17 03:55 PM

Haven't planted a thing, but by God I ordered a few fruit trees from Womack nursery last night!grin

Going to try an All-in-one-Almond,Eureka persimmon. They also have native persimmons in a 5 pack I ordered, more for wildlife than anything, so will see how those do "out in the woods", 2-3' for $18!

Also ordered a 5 pack of 18-24" "Rainbow wild Plums" for $25, a mixed cultivar of WP's that supposedly make great jelly and jams like was done in the "old days"

Was going to plant onions and potatoes, but for the effort, I will save the space and buy those at the farmers market.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/17 11:32 PM

Melon area is prepped and covered. I ran out of wood to finish the border.

The bricks/rocks in the back right is where I've found a speckled king snake for the last two years. I like to keep the rocks there in case it returns.



onions planted



These are from tilling the large garden. 12x50' area. Tiller drive belt broke but my son got large garden turned.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/12/17 12:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Western
Was going to plant onions and potatoes, but for the effort, I will save the space and buy those at the farmers market.


cheers




Looks good cman, Is that Preen?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/12/17 12:29 AM

It is not. Some new to me affordable material. It will suck like the others I bet.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/12/17 12:42 AM

What kind of soil are you using for your melon patch Chickenman?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/12/17 01:06 AM

Leach field, basically.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/12/17 01:14 AM

10-4
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/13/17 02:07 AM




picked up some celebrities
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/17 09:35 PM

This morning's rain perked my garden up a little. Here are three of my four rows to be. I plan t buy bell peppers and jalapeos when I can find the four or six packs. Maybe tomorrow.




I don't have to go all the way to my garden for cilantro. It's coming up in different places up and down my driveway.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/17/17 08:02 PM

Leveled the dirt



Coming along nicely

Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/17 04:29 AM

Everything is shaping up. Had to transfer the peas and beans to a different pot. I assume the same will be done for the melons. Asparagus even sprouted. Not holding my breath though. I hear its nearly impossible to grow from seed.


Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/24/17 12:02 AM

I made up my fourth and final row today and put in three six packs of bell peppers. They took up about half the row. I plan to put in jalapeos and a few more bell peppers, as well as a hill of cucumbers. I saw something new in Lowe's yesterday. They were called spicy bell peppers. I'll give a couple of those a try. I plant my squash and zucchini on the ends.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/17 06:47 PM




Post oaks & huisache are blooming, Pecans should be coming along shortly.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/17 10:31 PM

Looks good as usual.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/17 11:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Chickenman
Looks good as usual.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/17 11:53 PM

Originally Posted By: skinnerback
Originally Posted By: Chickenman
Looks good as usual.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/17 04:40 PM

My tubers are looking great.



This is typical of my tomatoes.



I've lost one tomato plant and two bell pepper plants. I can't find jalapeos plants in the four or six pack. Maybe later.
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/17 09:40 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
My tubers are looking great.



This is typical of my tomatoes.



I've lost one tomato plant and two bell pepper plants. I can't find jalapeos plants in the four or six pack. Maybe later.


I couldnt find the jalapeno six packs either. Bought 2 "singles" that were both doubles.
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/17 01:12 AM

Bill you are way ahead of me and your plant are looking good, we had 2 frosts this week with one day being 32 degrees.
Onions are out and I cut my potatoes today and will plant them next week.
Lots of six pack stuff in Longview and they are having to cover it up at night.
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/17 04:14 AM

Lowes has bonnie jalapeno six packs.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/17 10:17 PM

Some plants started to climb out of their cups so those got planted. Got an early start on peppers too. I put those in big pots since they have done better for me in pots. Planted a blueberry bush. She shall see.


Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/17 12:38 AM

Originally Posted By: mrmo
Lowes has bonnie jalapeno six packs.


Bonnie picks and chooses. They only have singles at $3.87 at my new Lowe's. I stopped by HomeDepot today. Bonnie was unloading the truck. I asked. The man pointed out that they had a special of 3 for $9.00. I can buy a lot of peppers for $18.00. There's an old garden saying about not getting my seeds back. I give a lot of my stuff away but I don't plan to buy it and give it away. They will have the six packs in all stores once they get the city boys out of the way.
Posted By: fmrmbmlm

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/17 04:51 AM

If you have a H.E.B. close by try them.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/17 09:17 PM










Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/17 09:34 PM

Lookin good Payne. Y'all must eat quite a few strawberries. Just where did that calf think it was goin?
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/17 09:34 PM

LOL
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/17 09:41 PM

It rained yesterday, sometimes they hide in there when not in the loafing sheds. I guess he got a little curious about the gate. It is part of a hog panel so I cut him out and put another piece of hog panel reversed on the gate and rehung it, that little twerp rammed me two times before I got him out. There's a chain that held the gate there, would of been something seeing him run through the pasture like that.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/17 09:55 PM

roflmao
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/17 05:22 PM

I have a two week supply of store bought potatoes. The timing is just right. My red potatoes are now baseball size. These should carry me through September and have some for my neighbors. Children love to dig potatoes.



My onions are ready to start bulbing. I can now use some of the tops.



This will be my first potato and onion dish.


This is a hill of straight neck yellow squash that I planted from seed.




My cilantro is now going to seed. The blooms should bring bees. Has anyone ever toasted the seeds and used them as coriander?

To bring out the fragrance in coriander, toast the seeds. Put them in a dry heavy skillet and set over medium heat for a few minutes until they become fragrant. Grind the whole seeds to release the spice's flavorful aromatic oils.





Not to worry about running out of cilantro. Here's new cilantro coming up is some freshly till soil.


Posted By: Wburke2010

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/17 12:35 AM

I can now join this thread. We build a small 4x8 raised bed to start with. Will be adding at least one more next to it soon. I highly underestimated how much soil I needed so it looks like crap right now but got everything in the ground. Will add some more soul to it tomorrow and make it all pretty.




Planted tomatoes, jalapeo, strawberries, okra, onions, basil, and cucumber. This is my first time with a garden so we'll see how it goes.

Walter
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/17 05:14 PM

I'm done. I bit the bullet and drive up to Houston Garden center. They had four inch plants for a little over a dollar each. I picked up a half dozen jalapeo plants and put them yesterday. I also gave a new bell pepper a try and one big Whopper tomato.



I'm having a tough time getting a good stand of cucumbers. I may try a different seed.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/17 02:02 AM

10 Beefsteaks are in. 2 more of those to go. 50 or so plants to get planted. My boy needs a belt.

Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/17 01:11 PM

Looking good. I just cant get excited about it this year for some reason. I may plant a couple tomato plants but that will be about it this year I think.
Posted By: Wytex

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/17 03:14 PM

Found the proper thread. My chiles are just about to sprout. Looks like I'll have a good selection if they all make it to transplanting. Now just have to get my beds ready for the garlic and shallots. Tomatoes are months out for us, might try some different heirlooms this year. By the way, okra will not make it in Laramie, Wy. Mine didn't anyway, only got 12 inches tall and no pods.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/17 08:18 PM





Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/17 02:41 PM

Ta da. BLTs on the way.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/17 05:17 PM

caged



pest control



Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/17 05:21 PM

Probably a dumb question...Payne, how do the flowers provide pest control? Do they attract bugs to them instead of your garden or deter away from the garden?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/17 05:28 PM

Repels them, look up companion planting
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/17 03:51 PM

This should be enough for my pot roast tonight, and maybe a crawfish boil if were planning one. I'll surely get my seeds back on my potatoes. I'm estimating five to six pounds per plant.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/17 04:44 PM





Planted two of each. Flame, Concord, Thompson & Niagara grapes.


These goslings hatched this morning

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/17 04:54 PM

Proud mother. cheers
Posted By: Wburke2010

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/17 10:43 PM

My plants looked good when we put them in, now they look like crap. How much water should I give them.

Walter
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/17 11:43 PM

With the cooler temps you shouldn't have to water much. When the soil is dry an inch-inch and a half deep from the top you can water them. Water the base not the foliage.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/17 11:52 PM

Originally Posted By: wburke2010
My plants looked good when we put them in, now they look like crap. How much water should I give them.

Walter


You have them mounded up. You need to heap up around the mounds. It will take and hold water better.

I hip up my rows. It's an old country thing.

Here's an example of hipped up rows. I'll come I in after the till and pull up little ridge on each side of the rows.





Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/17 12:09 AM

He has a raised bed garden.
Posted By: Wburke2010

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/17 12:19 AM

I just water a little last night. Four gallons. For all the plants and it is dry tonight.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/17 12:26 AM

Plants are in except the asparagus. Still not sure what I am going to do with that.

I have 2 melons (at the back by Sheryl Crow) and a blueberry bush in this area. Peppers are in the pots. I sowed a bunch of morning glories this year. Planted them on the back back fence by the big tree. Still sowing more for other fenced areas.



Not pickling this year. Instead, I moved towards tomatoes. There are some herbs, squash, beans, peas, and more peppers in here but 20+ are tomatoes.



Pear tree put these out. Its the only 2 on the tree that I can tell.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/17 12:31 AM

If they're dry water them. I wouldn't water at night, it promotes fungi and bacteria.


Looks good Cman
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/17 12:37 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
If they're dry water them. I wouldn't water at night, it promotes fungi and bacteria.


Looks good Cman


I'm just glad its over. Crappie are turning up in shallower water up here. Going to spend a bunch of time floating around looked for them.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/17 12:50 AM

Good luck with that. i just have to plant the watermelons and I'll be done.
Posted By: Wytex

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/17 02:04 PM

My chiles are sprouting. Looks like I will be baby sitting about 20 little chile plants. Will get my garlic and shallots in this week as next week winter comes back with cold and snow. Irrigation ditches will get prepped for water next weekend on the ranch we manage.
Trout are hungry and the creeks are starting to rise just a bit with some early runoff, spring is about month and a half away here.
Enjoy seeing all the nice gardens down there, reminds me of childhood and my Dad's gardens. Mine is a small raised bed and containers at 7,200 ft elevation.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/17 02:35 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: wburke2010
My plants looked good when we put them in, now they look like crap. How much water should I give them.

Walter


You have them mounded up. You need to heap up around the mounds. It will take and hold water better.

I hip up my rows. It's an old country thing.

Here's an example of hipped up rows. I'll come I in after the till and pull up little ridge on each side of the rows.







Here's a better example of hipped up rows. A teacup of water will do better than a quart if it gets to the roots.

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/17 04:02 PM

This is one of my white potatoes. I don't know the variety. I think the sign in the feed store just said white. I tried Yukon gold one year and didn't care for them. The whites came up a little after the reds. Funny thing, the whites have white blossoms and the reds have purple ones. I don't cut my potatoes before I plant them.


Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/17 02:34 PM

Originally Posted By: rickym
Probably a dumb question...Payne, how do the flowers provide pest control? Do they attract bugs to them instead of your garden or deter away from the garden?



Here's a couple of good companion planting lists

http://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/companion-planting-guide-zmaz81mjzraw

http://www.unclelukes.com/companion-planting/companion-planting-chart
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/24/17 05:41 PM

Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/17 12:34 PM

Thought I lost my peaches during the last frost, 27* on the flowers, but found tons of fruit yesterday up

As far as the garden, started planting this last week, so I will catch you fellas in about 6 months
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/17 03:14 PM

My tomatoes are now setting in clumps.



An inch of rain last night really perked up my garden.



There is a yellow squash somewhere under that blossom.

Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/17 12:00 AM

I went ahead spent the extra $1.49 just to one-up Payne.



Lost some plants. Replaced them today. Big rain expected again tonight so we'll see if I lose more.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/17 01:28 AM




Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/17 01:15 PM

[quote=Chickenman]I went ahead spent the extra $1.49 just to one-up Payne.





High Roller.



Looking good Chickenman!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/02/17 04:29 PM

I have an announcement to make. One picture is worth a thousand words.




What the heck. Lets make it two pictures.




Squash will put on some fruit that will not mature. I'm not sure about these two beauties.

Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/02/17 04:50 PM

Good job Bill! I have flowers but that's it for right now.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/03/17 01:26 AM

looks good Bill
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/03/17 01:16 PM




Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/03/17 08:58 PM

Ok garden guru's, whats causing this? I have a half dozen that look like this out out 11. No they are not layin in the dirt.



Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/03/17 09:08 PM

I think it has something to do with pollination. One of the two in my above picture did the same thing. Maybe male and female.

Check the base of the flower where the blossom meets the stem. Female squash blossoms have a small swollen embryonic fruit at their base, which will grow into a squash if the bee does what bees do. ... There are a lot more male squash blossoms than female and they begin blooming earlier.Aug 1, 2016



Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/03/17 09:24 PM

You have calcium deficiency. You can buy some seaweed liquid from lowes or a garden center to treat the plant. Did you do a soil test? Do you know what the ph level is in the soil? there's a lot of things you could do to fix it. I'd pick every one of the squash and trash them. Then add some fertilizer, make sure you are watering evenly and in the mornings. Do you have raised beds or a garden?
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/03/17 09:25 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I think it has something to do with pollination. One of the two in my above picture did the same thing. Maybe male and female.

Check the base of the flower where the blossom meets the stem. Female squash blossoms have a small swollen embryonic fruit at their base, which will grow into a squash if the bee does what bees do. ... There are a lot more male squash blossoms than female and they begin blooming earlier.Aug 1, 2016




I think you just solved my problem, all of my first flowers were actually female. And the squash in question were likely never pollinated
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/03/17 09:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
You have calcium deficiency. You can buy some seaweed liquid from lowes or a garden center to treat the plant. Did you do a soil test? Do you know what the ph level is in the soil? there's a lot of things you could do to fix it. I'd pick every one of the squash and trash them. Then add some fertilizer, make sure you are watering evenly and in the mornings. Do you have raised beds or a garden?



Garden but will be raised beds next year. I had to make a garden quick this year, with just getting settled in and not thinking about it. Havent done a soil test, its crappy sand mixed with clay and 6-2 cu. ft. bags of miracle grow garden soil and a few buckets of manure/hay dirt I brought back from a relatives.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/03/17 09:32 PM

Might try adding some low nitrogen fertilizer


That's blossom end rot.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/03/17 11:34 PM

Wood ash will add calcium.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/03/17 11:45 PM

He needs a faster fix
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/03/17 11:50 PM

One of mine prevailed the other didn't. It's worse with zucchini. We will all be throwing them over the fence next month.
http://homeguides.sfgate.com/squash-shrivel-vine-55263.html

Posted By: huntindude

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/17 12:27 PM

I just planted some tomatoes and peppers this past weekend after looking at the long range forecast which was different 5 days ago than it is now. Now they are saying temps are mid forties mid week for the low. I know it has frosted at 42, but whats yalls input? No covering. I'm 3 hours away. Don't usually plant until Easter weekend, but this year I thought naw it aint gonna frost any more. Never assume.
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/17 12:54 PM

They should be fine for a few hours in cool temps. On a sunny day the frost will burn off early and the plants will recover.

Thanks fellas for the squash help.
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/17 12:56 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Wood ash will add calcium.


I work in the pool industry and can pick up a 50lb bag of calcium whenever I want
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/17 01:37 PM

It takes quite a while to break down into the soil, you'd be better off getting some liquid calcium and adding it to your garden.

How are you watering the garden?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/17 01:39 PM

Originally Posted By: huntindude
I just planted some tomatoes and peppers this past weekend after looking at the long range forecast which was different 5 days ago than it is now. Now they are saying temps are mid forties mid week for the low. I know it has frosted at 42, but whats yalls input? No covering. I'm 3 hours away. Don't usually plant until Easter weekend, but this year I thought naw it aint gonna frost any more. Never assume.


If you're home when it frosts you can cover or run a sprinkler before dawn.
Posted By: ronlhodges

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/17 01:44 PM

If you know your going to have frost or there is a good chance of it happening then cover them up just to be on the safe side . Suppose to get to 41 where I live tonight so i'll move plants inside the garage . I have had a garden the last 3 yrs but this year i'm just doing patio plants in planters and those will go inside also .
Posted By: ronlhodges

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/17 01:55 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I think it has something to do with pollination. One of the two in my above picture did the same thing. Maybe male and female.

Check the base of the flower where the blossom meets the stem. Female squash blossoms have a small swollen embryonic fruit at their base, which will grow into a squash if the bee does what bees do. ... There are a lot more male squash blossoms than female and they begin blooming earlier.Aug 1, 2016





I learned the manual way to pollinate . Real easy , I didn't have much or any bees' in my area in the past but some wasp which do the same thing .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCVIu82eXGY
Posted By: ronlhodges

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/17 01:59 PM

Originally Posted By: rickym
Ok garden guru's, whats causing this? I have a half dozen that look like this out out 11. No they are not layin in the dirt.





Poor Pollination : http://homeguides.sfgate.com/squash-turning-brown-drying-up-101867.html

Sometimes squash plants appear to set fruit, but before the fruit begins to grow, the tiny squash shrivels, darkens and falls from the vine. This occurs when the squash plants are not pollinated properly. Squash produce both male and female blooms. While the male bloom appears on a thin stem, the female bloom grows closer to the vine and has a swollen ovary that looks like a miniature squash. In order for these tiny squash to begin growing, bees must carry pollen from the male bloom to the female bloom. When the bee population is low, pollination does not occur and the fruit fails to grow. Other causes for lack of pollination include rainy weather or high temperatures that kill the pollen before bees carry it to the female blooms
Posted By: ronlhodges

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/17 02:09 PM

I love zucchini and squash but tired of fighting squash bugs so this year all I'll have is some tomatoes and banana peppers and maybe a jalapeno plant as patio plants . laugh
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/17 02:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
It takes quite a while to break down into the soil, you'd be better off getting some liquid calcium and adding it to your garden.

How are you watering the garden?


Would it be worth adding granular calcium to the area that i plan to put garden next year? Soaker hose in the morning every 3 days unless we get rain.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/17 02:34 PM

absolutely, I'd get a soil test from A&M first. You'll save money in the long run. I suggest the $17 test, it has the micro nutrients. Getting a year head start will help you greatly.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/17 02:40 PM

https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/edible/...d-treatment.htm
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/17 02:45 PM

Originally Posted By: ronlhodges
I love zucchini and squash but tired of fighting squash bugs so this year all I'll have is some tomatoes and banana peppers and maybe a jalapeno plant as patio plants . laugh


nasturtiums, marigolds & DE would help with the bugs.
Posted By: ronlhodges

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/17 04:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Originally Posted By: ronlhodges
I love zucchini and squash but tired of fighting squash bugs so this year all I'll have is some tomatoes and banana peppers and maybe a jalapeno plant as patio plants . laugh


nasturtiums, marigolds & DE would help with the bugs.


How do these help ?
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/17 04:49 PM

Flowers are supposed to repel the bugs. De gets instantly dries them out and kills them when they inhale it, usually just walking over it and breathing. Also when they eat it.
Posted By: ronlhodges

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/17 05:13 PM

Originally Posted By: rickym
Flowers are supposed to repel the bugs. De gets instantly dries them out and kills them when they inhale it, usually just walking over it and breathing. Also when they eat it.


Sounds good but i'm not familiar with DE , what is it ?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/17 06:12 PM

diatomaceous earth, get the food grade not the industrial grade. It can solve a lot of bug problems. It cuts them and they bleed out. I used it in my dog pen, garden, yards etc etc
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/17 06:17 PM

I agree with Payne about getting the food grade instead of industrial. I use the industrial because of how much cheaper it is for me.
Posted By: ronlhodges

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/17 07:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
diatomaceous earth, get the food grade not the industrial grade. It can solve a lot of bug problems. It cuts them and they bleed out. I used it in my dog pen, garden, yards etc etc


Sounds like a winner , thanks !
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/17 07:25 PM

You're welcome

post up some pics of your setup if you can
Posted By: ronlhodges

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/17 07:45 PM

This is what I've had the previous 3 yrs but this year going to do Patio in Planters . Will start the end of this month so don't have any pictures for that yet .

IMG_20160619_191353 by Ron Hodges, on Flickr

IMG_20160619_191331 by Ron Hodges, on Flickr

IMG_20160619_191309 by Ron Hodges, on Flickr
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/17 07:57 PM

nice setup

did those whirlybirds work?
Posted By: ronlhodges

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/17 08:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
nice setup

did those whirlybirds work?


Yessir ! Whirlybirds and wind chimes work good and makes garden look nice . I used them to keep birds out . Only bird I had all summer was a bluejay after a tomato . You can also use silver ribbon . Just buy a big roll and stretch a strip across each roll . Movement from wind and sun reflection scares birds away .
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/17 10:37 PM

This is my first try with white potato's. Seems I read to watch for potato's coming up and then cover with soil or mulch. What else should I watch for? Beginning to bloom now.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/17 11:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Wilhunt
This is my first try with white potato's. Seems I read to watch for potato's coming up and then cover with soil or mulch. What else should I watch for? Beginning to bloom now.


I never cover them once they are up. You can cover them to protect from frost.
Posted By: Wytex

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/17 03:28 AM

Well I'm jealous. I have 2 inch seedlings, peppers right now, indoors.
We had 4 inches of snow this morning and a low down to 11 tonight predicted. Got my shallots and garlic in the ground at the right time before this cold snap.
We'll get spring in May, maybe.
Posted By: ronlhodges

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/17 11:59 AM

Originally Posted By: Wytex
Well I'm jealous. I have 2 inch seedlings, peppers right now, indoors.
We had 4 inches of snow this morning and a low down to 11 tonight predicted. Got my shallots and garlic in the ground at the right time before this cold snap.
We'll get spring in May, maybe.


If you have them in big enough planters you can grow this tomatoes OK until you can get them in the ground . Those shallots should be OK but I never messed with garlic so don't know about those . Good luck !
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/17 12:59 PM

I have been monitoring the plants I started from seed thinking they should look better. All the tomatoes are laying on their side. I assume they did not get transplanted deep enough. I built mounts around them hoping that will correct their growth pattern.

example...



Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/17 02:26 PM

I never plant doubles together even if I have to bare root them.
Posted By: ronlhodges

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/17 03:39 PM

Oh I never plant more than one tomato to a planter but in a large planter I have planted 2 peppers together on opposite sides of a large planter .
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/17 04:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Chickenman
I have been monitoring the plants I started from seed thinking they should look better. All the tomatoes are laying on their side. I assume they did not get transplanted deep enough. I built mounts around them hoping that will correct their growth pattern.





This is probably your only viable option
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/17 04:32 PM

Originally Posted By: ronlhodges
Originally Posted By: rickym
Ok garden guru's, whats causing this? I have a half dozen that look like this out out 11. No they are not layin in the dirt.





Poor Pollination : http://homeguides.sfgate.com/squash-turning-brown-drying-up-101867.html

Sometimes squash plants appear to set fruit, but before the fruit begins to grow, the tiny squash shrivels, darkens and falls from the vine. This occurs when the squash plants are not pollinated properly. Squash produce both male and female blooms. While the male bloom appears on a thin stem, the female bloom grows closer to the vine and has a swollen ovary that looks like a miniature squash. In order for these tiny squash to begin growing, bees must carry pollen from the male bloom to the female bloom. When the bee population is low, pollination does not occur and the fruit fails to grow. Other causes for lack of pollination include rainy weather or high temperatures that kill the pollen before bees carry it to the female blooms


Here's the first one I picked just awhile ago.




Also, I lied. I just found a volunteer tomato double near a pecan tree. I plan to leave it there to maybe get some later tomatoes. I threw a hand full of 13-13-13 next to it.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/17 04:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Originally Posted By: Chickenman
I have been monitoring the plants I started from seed thinking they should look better. All the tomatoes are laying on their side. I assume they did not get transplanted deep enough. I built mounts around them hoping that will correct their growth pattern.





This is probably your only viable option




roflmao Thats cold.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/17 04:47 PM

angel
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/17 05:31 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I never plant doubles together even if I have to bare root them.


Why? I bought a 6 pack of Big Boys and four were doubles that's why I bought them.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/17 05:35 PM

Originally Posted By: mrmo
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I never plant doubles together even if I have to bare root them.


Why? I bought a 6 pack of Big Boys and four were doubles that's why I bought them.


I buy them also, but I separate them to plant them.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/17 07:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Chickenman
I have been monitoring the plants I started from seed thinking they should look better. All the tomatoes are laying on their side. I assume they did not get transplanted deep enough. I built mounts around them hoping that will correct their growth pattern.

example...






When I've started tomatoes from seed I've learned to put an oscillating fan blowing on them from sprouting (or where they can get wind) 24hrs/day, otherwise the stems go too thin and they end up like that. It works!
Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/17 10:05 PM


Onions are looking good I have three types red candy, white Bermuda, and southern bell hybrids.
Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/17 10:19 PM


Pepper patch is looking good I got six different kinds of peppers and some tomatillos in there.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/17 10:25 PM

looks good red bone
Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/17 10:34 PM

Thanks man I really enjoy it. Should have done raised beds years ago.
Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/17 10:34 PM

I have corn and squash in another raised bed.
Posted By: ronlhodges

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/17 10:59 PM

Looking very good Red Bone 936 !! I had onions last year but from seeds and they rotted on me before they were big enough to harvest frown .
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/17 11:14 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
Originally Posted By: Payne
Originally Posted By: Chickenman
I have been monitoring the plants I started from seed thinking they should look better. All the tomatoes are laying on their side. I assume they did not get transplanted deep enough. I built mounts around them hoping that will correct their growth pattern.





This is probably your only viable option




roflmao Thats cold.


rofl Sho wuz

Key word Chickenman..Farmers Market grin

Actually there is still a huge supply of tomatoes plants in North Texas still, must have been 1000 at just the Decatur Lowes last week.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/17 01:52 PM

Mounds is what I meant.

Thanks for the tips from everyone except Payne and CCBIRDDOGGUY.
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/17 02:59 PM

Something has caused a couple of my potato plants to have leaves start to turn brown and wrinkle. Not too much water...any thoughts?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/17 01:39 AM

Originally Posted By: Chickenman



My plants are looking better for sure but could use a little more help. Most have perked up. I'm just hoping their stalks are strong enough when they start producing.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/17 02:12 PM

Baking potatoes! This is what I've been waiting on.


My tomatoes are loaded and doing fine.

Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/17 04:44 PM

You're way ahead of me Bill, potatoes looks great. My wife prefers the Reds, but I still plant a few russets style the years I grow potatoes. Baby reds, skin on make a great side dish.
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/17 05:08 PM

Good looking tomato's Bill.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/17 05:24 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Baking potatoes! This is what I've been waiting on.


My tomatoes are loaded and doing fine.




These were not called russets. They were simply called white potatoes. The five biggest weighs about eight ounces each. I tried Yukon gold one year and did care for them. They had two different red potatoes. I didn't know which to get, so I got six of each. I should have kept them separate and written it down. I never cut my potatoes before I plant them.
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/17 05:46 PM

Bill, your garden it looking good and months ahead of mine. Potatoes still coming up with a few blooming. Tomatoes are just blooming and planted beans and peas Saturday.
Posted By: KC

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/17 02:44 AM



Got everything planted last Saturday. Seeing my lettuce, spinach, and cilantro sprout so far. Hoping this inch of rain and some warm days will jumpstart the rest of it.

Went from 20x20 to 30x150 this year...
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/17 01:23 PM

Nice garden KC, I see you've extra hands now.
Posted By: ronlhodges

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/17 01:48 PM

Originally Posted By: KC


Got everything planted last Saturday. Seeing my lettuce, spinach, and cilantro sprout so far. Hoping this inch of rain and some warm days will jumpstart the rest of it.

Went from 20x20 to 30x150 this year...


Looks good and looks like you will have your hands full this summer keeping up with it !
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/17 02:43 PM

Coming alive. Could use some rain.


Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/17 03:54 PM

Did your tomatoes stand up?

I like those trellises.






Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/17 04:05 PM

roflmao I'm just gonna reserve comment.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/17 04:10 PM

The scarecrows look good.

Plants are stronger but not standing yet. When they get some length to them, I'll tie them up some.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/17 04:34 PM

Originally Posted By: skinnerback
roflmao I'm just gonna reserve comment.


if you're scared, just say you're scared...
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/17 05:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Originally Posted By: skinnerback
roflmao I'm just gonna reserve comment.


if you're scared, just say you're scared...


OK, so what did you do with their bodies? grin scared
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/17 05:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne





Pick them up on the farmersonly.com?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/17 05:42 PM

I'm just gonna reserve my comment at this time...
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/17 05:47 PM

roflmao
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/17 07:07 PM

Must be scared...
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/17 07:31 PM

nah good clean living, think pure thoughts ricky.
Posted By: ronlhodges

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/17 07:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Chickenman
Coming alive. Could use some rain.





DO you have plenty of room between those zucchini or squash ? One zucchini plant takes ou a 5-6 ft circle . Last year I planted mine 7ft apart to give them room . Also too , be sure and watch those flowers and if you don't see a lot of bees or wasp moving around the flowers you might need to pollinate yourself .
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/17 12:03 AM

Yes sir. Its pretty crowded. I unintentionally planted squash next to zucchini. Actually, I think three were labeled wrong when the seeds got started.
Posted By: KC

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/17 02:28 AM

It's a family affair for sure
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/17 02:39 PM

Another update. My bell peppers continue putting on.



My jalapeos should be ready ti pickle in a couple of weeks.




I've picked several yellow squash. Looks as if the zucchini will start producing. I'm trying seven dust on them.




My onions are bulbing fine.




Cucumbers are putting on.




Sorry guys no pretty scarecrows.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/17 03:14 PM

sevin dust is the devil
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/17 07:46 PM

I think I planted my onions to deep, we'll see after some time. Anyhow, can you fellas tell me how common this is? And should I pull it as I would on my peach tree?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/17 09:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
sevin dust is the devil



The most popular form for gardeners, Sevin Ready-to-Use 5% Dust comes in a convenient shaker bottle for easy application. Sevin Ready-to-Use 5% Dust is designed to kill over 65 types of insects, including Japanese beetles, Armyworms, Leafhoppers, Webworms, Squash bores Fleas, Spiders, and ...
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/17 10:13 PM

quite common ricky, just chunk it or feed it to your chickens

toxic to bees bill
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/17 01:34 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
quite common ricky, just chunk it or feed it to your chickens

toxic to bees bill


Yeah Bill whip
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/17 02:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: Payne
quite common ricky, just chunk it or feed it to your chickens

toxic to bees bill


Yeah Bill whip


My cilantro as well as my squash were loaded with bees this morning. I'm trying for close to the ground with the dust.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/17 03:24 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I'm trying for close to the ground with the dust.


You're applying an environmental hazard to your property. It says Environmental Hazard on the label.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/17 06:38 PM

Weak tomatoes are getting stronger.

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/17 02:08 PM

My squash are in pretty good. Ill have t start giving some away soon.




Later guys. Have to clean my kitchen this morning.
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/17 04:08 PM

Dug our first potatoes yesterday when we got back in town. Appears the squash wanted to reach for the moon and is so top heavy it is bending to the ground.


Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/17 05:37 PM

Pan fry some of those new potatoes, with an onion, and add squash toward the end. Add polish sausage and make a complete meal out of it.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/17 01:58 PM

Man, you guys really have it going on! I only have corn up 3-8", got some tomatoes in and 3 kinds of sweet peppers in. Held off since I lost so much the last two years with late freezes, paid off I guess, as the last freeze took out my pear, apricot flowers and looks like it got most of the small plums.

Good news is my new fruit trees all took and are looking great.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/17 02:40 PM




Caught two inches of rain yesterday, so I had to see how it was going in the garden. Sunflowers are coming along. Everything else is going good at the one month mark. Something is eating my green beans so I'm going to sow some more seeds.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/17 03:54 PM

Looking good y'all. I couldn't stay completely out, we planted 2 Celebrity tomatoes, A purple something tomato, one Jalapeno and 6 pickling cucumbers.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/17 04:30 PM

we just got our tomatoes in last weekend. Trying several different types as they were pretty well picked over at the nursery and HD. Better Bush, Big Boy, Celebrity, Phoenix (heat tolerate supposedly), some other I had never heard of (and don't remember confused2) and a couple of large well established cherry tomato plants.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/17 07:40 PM

Looking good yall. I'm not doing much this year because I'm not gonna be home much. Have 1 tomato and some peppers planted. Will probly do a little more this weekend.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/17 08:14 PM

A green tomato got pulled off one of my plants that fell over during this morning's rain. I think I'll slice that sucker and fry it up. Look it up on the recipes forum after dinner.
Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/17 08:41 PM


Carolina Reaper looking pretty good. Yesterday's rain beat it up pretty good though.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/17 02:17 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
A green tomato got pulled off one of my plants that fell over during this morning's rain. I think I'll slice that sucker and fry it up. Look it up on the recipes forum after dinner.


See?

Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/17 01:15 AM

Its times like this when I just have to water and watch it grow that I really enjoy. The recent 2" of rain helped.



Watermelon is doing well.



Cantaloupe, not so much.



One of three new Kiowa pecan trees is starting to put out leaves.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/17 06:57 PM

Looks good Cman




peahen is laying in the same spot the goose did.

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/17 08:15 PM

There was an article in the local newspaper about female peacocks. banana2
Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/17 10:22 PM

What are peacocks like to raise?
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/17 10:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Red Bone 936
What are peacocks like to raise?

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/17 12:28 AM

roflmao pretty much


If you have the room and can keep them alive for five months it's pretty easy. Food Water Shelter and they take care of themselves.
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/17 02:24 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
roflmao pretty much


If you have the room and can keep them alive for five months it's pretty easy. Food Water Shelter and they take care of themselves.



5 months? Enlighten me sir..
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/17 02:30 AM

they can fly and escape most threats
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/17 02:22 PM

I pick my first tomatoes at first blush. I picked three this morning. I should be loaded my next weekend.
Posted By: Wytex

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/17 02:38 PM

I'm jealous we had 4-5 inches of snow yesterday, still on the ground this morning. Nice gardens!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/17 04:30 PM

I like my tomatoes big, but I favor uniformity over size on my potatoes. Here is a half dozen where I got both.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/17 06:21 PM

have you ever grown potatoes using the stacked tire method?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/17 06:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
have you ever grown potatoes using the stacked tire method?


I've heard of that but I think its a wives tale. The tops of some of mine are done.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/17 07:20 PM

yeah I'm not sure if i want to try it, I have 6 tires laying around but I can get a five pound bag for $2.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/17 07:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
yeah I'm not sure if i want to try it, I have 6 tires laying around but I can get a five pound bag for $2.


And, you can't tell the difference once they are cooked. I just get a kick out of growing tubers. I'm down to four rows. I could give all the vegetables up except home grown tomatoes.
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/17 04:08 PM

Pulled our first squash this morning, this was the biggest
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/17 04:11 PM

Two things worth repeating. (1) I always pick my first tomatoes at first blush to keep the varmints from eating them. (2) There is generally something wrong with the first ones to ripen. I threw a few away and ended up with a half dozen in my kitchen window.



It's BLTs, fresh garden salads, turkey/bacon clubs, and tomatoes on my cheeseburgers starting about the middle of the week.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/17 04:22 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Two things worth repeating. (1) I always pick my first tomatoes at first blush to keep the varmints from eating them. (2) There is generally something wrong with the first ones to ripen. I threw a few away and ended up with a half dozen in my kitchen window.



It's BLTs, fresh garden salads, turkey/bacon clubs, and tomatoes on my cheeseburgers starting about the middle of the week.


One of these had a leak and I threw it out. Not to worry. I picked another hale dozen this morning.

There were drippings from a tomato horn worm and two chewed tomatoes this morning. I couldn't find the sucker.

Edit: Ta Da. It just took tenacity. This sucker in going in the pond for bluegill feed.


Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/17 06:39 PM

Bill, id bet there's more, there's always more. bang
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/17 06:57 PM

Hate them things
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/17 03:44 PM

Originally Posted By: rickym
Bill, id bet there's more, there's always more. bang


The droppings are easy to spot.

Care package for my neighbor.

Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/17 03:47 PM

Is that real mud in them tatters or Fake Mud like on them Jeans?

Nice of you!
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/17 06:54 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: rickym
Bill, id bet there's more, there's always more. bang


The droppings are easy to spot.

Care package for my neighbor.




Takin good care of Sarah aint ya?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/17 08:10 PM

This one is for Kelly. Her husband in a farmer. He brings me sweet corn each year.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/17 12:03 AM

Leaf footed genocide is going to take place this year. The egg sack has 100-200 praying mantis. Should hatch in a week or so.



Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/17 12:28 AM

nice predators, are you going to get some lady bugs?

fig looks good
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/17 12:48 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
nice predators, are you going to get some lady bugs?


Lady bugs deliver tomorrow.

Counted my tomato blooms on 24 plants. 12 blooms. Bummer. Sprayed them with an epsom and water solution yesterday. We'll see.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/17 12:50 AM

I'd hit them with the miracle
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/17 01:09 AM

I have a few times. I could again.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/17 11:20 AM

Like me some preying mantis, just released a box of lady bugs Monday, had to put them the wife's flowers since I had sprayed spinosid that morning in the garden. Been a tough fight so far with cuc beetles, they ate a whole row of squash down to nubs before they got 3" high, Have HB nematodes going in today.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/17 03:37 PM

Here's an interesting observation. I gave my neighbor half of my garden. He has this ant bed in his onions. You can see the mound just to the left of the onion on the left. You can also see some of the ants to the left of the mound. The onions are doing fine and there are no weeds within three to four feet each side of the ant bed.



Take a look where the ants stop working.



My side of the garden is doing fine. The bell peppers are ready.



Some of my tomatoes have grown through the top of their cages and are leaning over.


Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/17 11:01 PM

Bill in some of the vinyards here in Texas(and maybe other places) they like to have a fire ant bed at the end of each row of grapes.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/17 11:54 AM

My bottom crop tomatoes are in pretty good. I'm now sharing them with several neighbors.

Posted By: TimOub007

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/17 04:01 PM

Very nice Bill.
Posted By: TackDriver

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/17 01:11 AM

The last three years the honeybees stopped coming around in my vegetable garden and squash / cucumbers have not fruited one single fruit. Prior to those three years there were honeybees inside flowers each day and we had plenty of squash and cucumbers. Currently we don't have a problem with the rest of the vegs, tomatoes, eggplants, bell peppers, chili peppers, herbs, kale, spinach, onions and okra are fruiting / growing real nicely. I had to pull out the squash and cucumber plants last week, they do flower, but no fruit. We use 70 dirt /30 compost plus bloodmeal. Not sure what is happening to the honeybees, seems they are getting extinct soon.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/17 01:27 AM

spray sugar water on the blooms or hand pollinate
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/17 03:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Big Stan
The last three years the honeybees stopped coming around in my vegetable garden and squash / cucumbers have not fruited one single fruit. Prior to those three years there were honeybees inside flowers each day and we had plenty of squash and cucumbers. Currently we don't have a problem with the rest of the vegs, tomatoes, eggplants, bell peppers, chili peppers, herbs, kale, spinach, onions and okra are fruiting / growing real nicely. I had to pull out the squash and cucumber plants last week, they do flower, but no fruit. We use 70 dirt /30 compost plus bloodmeal. Not sure what is happening to the honeybees, seems they are getting extinct soon.


Sometimes the squash simply comes in later.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/17 04:07 PM

Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/17 04:35 PM

I'm worried about my peach tree. It leafed out late,produced several blossoms,but I cant see any tiny peaches(yet). My notes say I picked the first ripe peach on june 16 last year.Theres no way they will be ripe that early this year,if I even get any! I think that warm winter we had is what caused it.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/17 06:01 PM

Originally Posted By: swampthang
I'm worried about my peach tree. It leafed out late,produced several blossoms,but I cant see any tiny peaches(yet). My notes say I picked the first ripe peach on june 16 last year.Theres no way they will be ripe that early this year,if I even get any! I think that warm winter we had is what caused it.

do you know what variety of peach tree it is? I have one (not sure of variety) that has only had a few peaches on it in 10-12 years ... our other one is a Sam Houston and has a much lower chill hour rate and those peaches will be ready within a week or so (if we can keep the birds off).
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/17 06:26 PM

Originally Posted By: PMK
Originally Posted By: swampthang
I'm worried about my peach tree. It leafed out late,produced several blossoms,but I cant see any tiny peaches(yet). My notes say I picked the first ripe peach on june 16 last year.Theres no way they will be ripe that early this year,if I even get any! I think that warm winter we had is what caused it.

do you know what variety of peach tree it is? I have one (not sure of variety) that has only had a few peaches on it in 10-12 years ... our other one is a Sam Houston and has a much lower chill hour rate and those peaches will be ready within a week or so (if we can keep the birds off).


I think its a Ranger,which has a high chilling requirement.I think thats the problem-it didn't get enough chilling hours with the warm winter.It grew a lot last year,probably too much fertilizer.Its 5 years old and put out about a dozen large peaches last year.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/17 08:54 PM

our sam houston is a low chill hour, fully bloomed in mid January, fruit forming by early Feb. ... we planted it in early Nov. 2013, by May 2014 (7 months later) it was about to break the limbs it was so loaded with peaches (we didn't know we needed to prune some of the fruit early). here is a pic from the weekend of April 22.


but I suspect anything north of us would be too many chances of freezing temps after fruit is already set, causing it to drop ... the winter of 2014/2015, we built a frame, covered with garden cloth and put halogen shop lights inside to keep it from freezing, lost all the fruit around the outer edges that winter.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/17 08:56 PM

very nice PMK

do you have a pic of the frame?
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/17 11:40 PM

I'm north of Dallas and any early blooming variety would surely be killed by a late frost. I have a small Poncan Mandarin and a Blood Orange tree planted in the same hole and I do the tarp/heat lamp trick with them too(no frame,just draped over).Works pretty good.The peach tree is way too big for that though.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/17 05:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
very nice PMK

do you have a pic of the frame?

not a very good one here on my work computer ...

I had a couple of old volleyball net standards that I used on one side (nearest, not pictured) and used straight rigid conduit on the back side (vertical in towards the back of the tree) with a fitting on the end that had threads. I used PVC pipe to make a 5'x5' square on the top that had PVC glue fittings for the PVC but a 90 coming off with threaded fitting where the conduit screwed in. The conduit legs are 6-8" taller than the volleyball standards. I then put screws into the wooden elevated base around the tree with zip ties to hold the conduit in place at the bottom.

I'll try to remember to take a better picture when at home if I make it before dark one of these days
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/17 06:01 PM

Very nice and thank you.
Posted By: ronlhodges

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/17 01:54 PM

Looks like everyones garden is coming along fine . I see that fried squash or zucchini in an earlier post . I thought I would mention how I use to cook mine for a supper meal . I just took a cookie sheet covered with foil , brush on olive oil , cut my squash and zucchini up in big bite sizes , salt and pepper then sprinkled paprika on everything then baked for 30 minutes in a 400 deg oven . Comes out great for all kinds of meals or if you want just get a bowl full and have a meal by itself . Something you might try sometimes .
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/17 02:19 PM

Have to try that Ron.
Posted By: ronlhodges

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/17 04:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Wilhunt
Have to try that Ron.


Me and the wife got hooked on that way of cooking about 4 years ago from a friend and been doing it since then . I decided to let my garden sleep this year so i'll have to store buy my squash and zucchini unless I can find an open market close by . I had a terrible time with squash bugs last year . I treated and killed all the eggs I could find but I lost the battle half way through season . I'm thinking my neighbor may have been infested with them and that's why I couldn't win . Next year I might try large pots on the patio and see if it will work better .
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/17 10:29 PM

Originally Posted By: ronlhodges
Looks like everyones garden is coming along fine . I see that fried squash or zucchini in an earlier post . I thought I would mention how I use to cook mine for a supper meal . I just took a cookie sheet covered with foil , brush on olive oil , cut my squash and zucchini up in big bite sizes , salt and pepper then sprinkled paprika on everything then baked for 30 minutes in a 400 deg oven . Comes out great for all kinds of meals or if you want just get a bowl full and have a meal by itself . Something you might try sometimes .


Makes great Asparagus that way as well, season with S/P and sometimes a bit of garlic salt, 15min at 400*
Posted By: ronlhodges

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/17 01:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: ronlhodges
Looks like everyones garden is coming along fine . I see that fried squash or zucchini in an earlier post . I thought I would mention how I use to cook mine for a supper meal . I just took a cookie sheet covered with foil , brush on olive oil , cut my squash and zucchini up in big bite sizes , salt and pepper then sprinkled paprika on everything then baked for 30 minutes in a 400 deg oven . Comes out great for all kinds of meals or if you want just get a bowl full and have a meal by itself . Something you might try sometimes .


Makes great Asparagus that way as well, season with S/P and sometimes a bit of garlic salt, 15min at 400*


Absolutely ! Have done that alot . Only I use asparagus with large stems . They handle the heat better and don't swivel up like the skinny ones do .
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/17 07:41 PM

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/17 03:18 PM

My neighbors now have plenty of tomatoes for slicing. The stink bugs have started. I picked a buck full to put in my pantry to ripen for my first batch of salsa.

Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/17 04:16 PM

we picked the last of our peaches from our Sam Houston last weekend ... these are some of the easiest to peal & get off the seeds and very sweet. I just wish my wife hadn't pruned the daylights out of it not knowing what she was doing bang. we only got about 35-40 peaches, where we normally get a couple hundred.

our cherry tomatoes are starting to turn, but they usually get eaten before making it into the house so far.
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/17 11:38 PM

Apparently high chilling peach varieties are all suffering from that warm winter we had. I've marked several other peach trees in my neighborhood and some dont have a single peach on them! If my tree pulls this same stunt next spring its coming down. Not gonna put up with that BS. mad I shoulda bought a low chill variety.
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/17 12:35 AM

My fathers tree only has two small peaches on it. Granted its only an 8 year old tree, it had over a dozen peaches the last two years. It put leaves and flowers on so late in the spring im sure it didnt get enough chill hours.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/17 01:20 AM

Picked my first squash. Garden is progressing. Started using soaker hoses vs the sprinkler.


Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/17 03:16 AM

My tomatoes caught blight what do ya'll use for it?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/17 05:07 PM

The Help showed up


Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/17 07:52 PM

Removal of blight I use(anti-fungal) baking soda dissolved in water, if it gets to veg. remove. Don't plant Veg. in same spot move year to year.
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/17 09:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
The Help showed up




Ladybugs?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/17 10:19 PM

yep, 1500 of them
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/17 12:05 AM

Dang cheers
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/17 12:28 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
yep, 1500 of them


Looks like we ordered from the same outfit, still see a few after 2 weeks, may need more as the garden matures. Mine where major thirsty when they arrived!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/17 01:01 AM







watered the cotton ball when they got here then put them in the fridge. Got them out a couple of hours ago, they look hungry..

Hope they lay eggs everywhere

Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/17 01:26 PM

How much does 1,500 ladybugs cost? And what is the benefit of having them?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/17 01:32 PM

$10 shipped, they and their larva eat aphids and other pests.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00533KOIC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/17 02:35 PM

up
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/17 08:26 PM

$10 scratch
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/17 08:46 PM

Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/17 08:46 PM

Last year you had to order LB real early, they sold out before I could get on the ball. Did get a few Preying mantis cases, now those are some fierce eaters as well!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/17 08:54 PM

Those mantis are trippy when they hatch. I spread them out all over the fruit tree orchard. I would be working in there and see them fighting each other. Excellent predators.

Where did you order ladybugs from Western?
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/17 09:24 PM

Supply & demand bang
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/17 10:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Those mantis are trippy when they hatch. I spread them out all over the fruit tree orchard. I'd would be working in there and see them fighting each other. Excellent predators.

Where did you order ladybugs from Western?


Arbico organics most of the time, but the last 1500 I got when ordering other stuff on Amazon a few weeks ago.

Arbico has lacewings, nematods and a bunch of other "bugs" for reasonable cost. I have used another one with good products, but cost a tad more, buglogical iirc.
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/17 10:50 PM

I know someone who hasnt been able to get rid of nematodes for 3 years now.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/17 10:57 PM

Originally Posted By: rickym
I know someone who hasnt been able to get rid of nematodes for 3 years now.


There is good ones and bad ones, you can only order the "good" ones I'm sure, many folks would give the "bad" ones away grin Some even attack people eek2
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/17 10:59 PM

Here is a good description of types, fairly quick read.

http://www.apsnet.org/edcenter/K-12/NewsViews/Pages/Nematodes.aspx
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/17 05:09 PM

My first watermelon looks like its doing well. Sheryl Crow has seen better days. Might need to clear coat her.



Young man likes to point at the plants. He's pretty good about falling all over them too.

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/17 08:15 PM

That doesn't look like a watermelon vine to me.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/17 10:46 PM

Looks good cman, the deer ate my vines and all the leaves off the sunflowers. Rabbits got half the green beans.

beneficial nematodes did wonders to my soil.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/17 01:15 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
That doesn't look like a watermelon vine to me.


My apology.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/17 02:53 AM

Originally Posted By: Chickenman
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
That doesn't look like a watermelon vine to me.


My apology.


Me either peep Looks like cucumber or maybe cantaloupe, what kind of wmelon did you plant?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/17 03:02 AM

Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: Chickenman
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
That doesn't look like a watermelon vine to me.


My apology.


Me either peep Looks like cucumber or maybe cantaloupe, what kind of wmelon did you plant?


Sugar baby smile
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/17 08:35 PM

I'm done putting up tomatoes. I'm now giving them away to everyone in my neighborhood, including the yard men. Here's a note from one of my neighbors.


"Hi Bill,
Picked a few tomatoes today & had one for lunch.
So wonderful! Thank you so much&#10084;&#65039;
Cookies are coming your way soon!
Debby

Sent from my iPhone"
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/17 01:08 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I'm done putting up tomatoes. I'm now giving them away to everyone in my neighborhood, including the yard men. Here's a note from one of my neighbors.


"Hi Bill,
Picked a few tomatoes today & had one for lunch.
So wonderful! Thank you so much&#10084;&#65039;
Cookies are coming your way soon!
Debby

Sent from my iPhone"


up nice of both of you.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/17 11:48 AM

Originally Posted By: Chickenman
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: Chickenman
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
That doesn't look like a watermelon vine to me.


My apology.


Me either peep Looks like cucumber or maybe cantaloupe, what kind of wmelon did you plant?


Sugar baby smile


up Enjoy those cucs grin
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/17 03:24 PM

The squash is under producing this year, tried planting on the end of rows. Won't do that again.
Tomatoes and eggplants are still a couple of weeks away. Goslings were learning to fly this morning.




Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/17 03:55 PM

I have some cucumbers ready. Tomatoes are coming along. More japs and bells than ever before.

First melon appeared the other day.




Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/17 04:01 PM

nice cucumber rolleyes
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/17 06:07 PM

Looks great fellas.

Payne, how jars of pickles are you making this year?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/17 07:40 PM

75-100 quarts
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/17 11:44 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
nice cucumber rolleyes
RIGHT!, everyone knows that is a baby cantaloupe grin

Been a "weird" spring for me so far, corn up and tassles started and its 3' tall, bush beans look good and growing, but no flowers yet. Had to plant squash and zucs 3 times? melons and cantaloupe I planted twice bang Been the driest spring here I can remember in a long time, combined with above average temps early on. Never had to replant before like this before, especially the type plants that are easy to grow. Even my Gala apple is blooming now....for the 2nd time WTH?
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/17 05:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
75-100 quarts


How do you eat that many pickles?
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/17 10:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: Payne
nice cucumber rolleyes
RIGHT!, everyone knows that is a baby cantaloupe grin

Been a "weird" spring for me so far, corn up and tassles started and its 3' tall, bush beans look good and growing, but no flowers yet. Had to plant squash and zucs 3 times? melons and cantaloupe I planted twice bang Been the driest spring here I can remember in a long time, combined with above average temps early on. Never had to replant before like this before, especially the type plants that are easy to grow. Even my Gala apple is blooming now....for the 2nd time WTH?

I agree on the weird spring, been cool and wet in North East Texas so my garden looks like it's a month behind. Except for the potatoes.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/17 11:23 PM

My first crop yellow squash and zucchinis failed like most. My second crop yellow squash is doing fine. Looks as if the zucchini will produce. My bell peppers have not yet turned color. I would like to have more color for this dish.

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
They boiled squash until it tasted just like it sounded when I was growing up. It was never one of my favorites.

I really like it since I learned to stir fry it. I got tired of my potatoes with my cheeseburger and also wanted to try this years batch of salsa, sooooooo.





Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/17 11:14 PM

Picked 3 gallons of these today
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/17 11:24 PM

Originally Posted By: rickym
Picked 3 gallons of these today


Boil eight minutes stir fry with butter and add lemon juice.

I've frozen them without blanching them.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/17 12:48 AM

I thought one of the new Sam Houstons didn't make it but it showing signs of life. I hope the plums and two pecans do the same soon.



Planted two Super 45s today. My cantaloupe plants died. The Sugar Baby is still on track. I've never seen so many peppers on my plants.



These two squash are hard as a rock. It looks like a Crookneck but I only planted Straightneck. Strange.

Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/17 02:46 PM

Looking good as usual fellas. Rabbits keep eating my jalapenos faster than they will grow. Maters are getting close but no ripe ones yet.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/17 04:51 PM

nice work cman




ladybug army is strong





Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/17 02:11 AM

What do you do with your eggplant? I had it on a pizza in NYC once where I thought it was good. That was it. Haven't had it cooked good since.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/17 02:30 AM

chicken eggplant parmesan usually, sell/trade/giveaway the rest.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/17 03:05 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I just fi is he'd putting up two pints of jalapeos. It's a little effort, because I seed the, but I prefer mine to the store bought one because they are firmer.




Posted By: Wytex

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/17 04:56 PM

Looks like I'll get to plant my chilis and tomatoes next week. Hopefully Saturday will be our last freeze, down into upper 20's.

You all are making me antsy. We had 10 inches of snow last week. Hops froze out for the second time but are coming back. My garlic and shallots should have giant bulbs this year, they've had plenty of freezes since planting. Carrots are coming up nicely.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/17 11:15 PM



ground support
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/17 11:21 PM

This is a little side note. I haven't had blossom end rot on my tomatoes, in my garden for several years, including this year. A volunteer came up in a bed by a pecan tree. A couple of tomatoes started turning this week. They were both on the small side. Both had blossom end rot.
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/17 01:56 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
This is a little side note. I haven't had blossom end rot on my tomatoes, in my garden for several years, including this year. A volunteer came up in a bed by a pecan tree. A couple of tomatoes started turning this week. They were both on the small side. Both had blossom end rot.


Added lots of calcium to the garden?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/17 02:14 PM

It wasn't in my garden. I put wood ashes in there.

This was one of my best potato years. I've been digging them off and on. I gave the children next door a magic bucket. It could always be filled from my garden. They loved digging potatoes. I just dug the rest of them up. I got about 15 pounds.

Posted By: Buddy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/17 07:10 PM

getting yellow leaves on tomato plants, would epson salt help with this or would there be another remedy?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/17 07:17 PM

They might not be getting enough water or a lack of nutrients.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/17 12:06 AM

from yesterday....

Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/17 01:01 PM

Lookin good cman!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/17 02:51 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I just put up a couple quarts of hamburger slices. I'll leave them out on the counter for a couple days,and then refrigerate them. They take on the taste of a deli dill. Two parts water, one part vinegar, and salt make up the brine.


Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/17 08:14 PM

Red candy onions did great this year.
Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/17 08:19 PM

Tomatillos are looking pretty good to.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/17 08:32 PM

very nice red bone
Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/17 08:33 PM

Chicken man those bell peppers look pretty good I'm ready for a stir fry
Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/17 08:34 PM

Thank u. First growing tomatillos but they're pretty easy so far.
Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/17 08:35 PM

Red candies are the sweetest onion I've ever had really really nice on a burger
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/17 08:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Red Bone 936
Red candies are the sweetest onion I've ever had really really nice on a burger


Where did you get the sets?
Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/17 11:42 PM

Dixondalefarm
Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/17 11:57 PM

Favorite pepper for me Serrano. What is y'alls favorite
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/17 12:34 AM

Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/17 12:35 AM

cheers
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/17 03:25 AM

First melon.
Posted By: KC

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/17 04:15 AM

I got some seed mixed up and wound up with 2 cucumber plants in my cantaloupe bed. Got all excited thinking I had baby melons and they were cukes...
Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/17 01:52 PM

Pulled these off, strange looking cucumbers

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/17 03:53 PM

My cucumbers looked about the same this year. I got a few from my neighbor to make some dill slices.
Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/17 12:04 AM

They were great eating after you scrub the spines off or peel them
Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/17 06:20 PM

Put this in the wrong spot first time so here you go.
Pick some peppers today pepper patch is looking pretty good this year.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/17 06:28 PM

Put them up like this.

I just finished putting up two pints of jalapeos. It's a little effort, because I seed the, but I prefer mine to the store bought one because they are firmer.


Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/17 09:05 PM

Great idea,but I like to make cowboy candy out off them. This batch I'm going to make jalapeo poppers.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/17 01:23 AM

Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/17 01:41 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne


No head on that scarecrow. I have more blush
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/17 02:02 AM

Cows kept tipping it off so I made another scarecrow in the grapevine. Deer & rabbits keep hitting the outer edge. Thinking about making a thunderdome over the soil...

Other than that it's been quite productive. The tomatoes are ready and should produce from here on out.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/17 03:00 PM

Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/17 03:13 PM

mmmm pickles.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/17 03:15 PM

My cucumbers failed completely. I'm planting some like the ones Payne planted next year.

I've taken down all my first tomatoes. I bought a late one called Whopper. It produced and still is producing my smallest tomatoes, plus they are cat faced.
Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/01/17 10:37 PM

These are Hot Hot!!!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/02/17 02:50 PM

I'm getting ready to cook Chinese bell pepper steak tonight. I pulled up a couple of one pound onions, and picked some turning bell peppers. My first yellow squash and zucchini plants went to see Jesus. I planted a couple of hills on the opposite end of the garden and they are doing fine.


Posted By: TimOub007

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/17 11:50 PM

I planted some corn for the first time this year. Recently one of the stalks fell over and this afternoon I tried to pull it and remove it from my garden. I was surprised to see a bunch of termites fall out of the base of the stalk where it broke a couple of inches above the ground. I know that I have termites in my garden soil and have not found anything organic or food safe to apply to the soil. I watch my foundation frequently so I am not really worried about them coming to the house. I have applied nematodes several times and feel that it was a colossal waste of money. Those powders are expensive!

So anyone else ever have termites in your corn stalks? I'm wondering if the other dozen or more will make it long enough to fill out the Cobb's.

T
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/17 12:31 AM

I don't grow corn so take this as just a guess. I'd try some food grade diatomaceous earth or borax in your soil.


Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/17 01:27 AM

I tried corn for a couple of years. The squirrels just wouldn't leave it alone. A framer in my neighborhood gave me some today.



Originally Posted By: bill oxner
My neighbor gave me some fresh sweet corn. This year's corn is the sweetest I've ever tasted. I plan to have a microwaved ear with my lunch, maybe keep another couple ears in my refrigerator, and freeze the rest. It's so easy. I've done it in the past. Just cut off both ends, take off the tough outer husk, put it in a bag and freeze it. I plan to cook up the field peas and freeze them in pint bags.


Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/17 01:30 AM

We picked a few green beans today.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/17 01:55 AM

flehan nice haul Rabbit
Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/17 10:54 PM

Nice rabbit looks good real good
Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/17 10:59 PM

Salsa verda here I come.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/17 03:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Red Bone 936
Salsa verda here I come.


I have a great trout recipe using salsa verda.
Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/17 04:37 PM

Sweet what is the recipe
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/17 05:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Red Bone 936
Sweet what is the recipe
its with specks. Pan fry fillets in hot butter, serve on a bed of lettuce topped with tomitillo sauce.
Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/17 07:03 PM

Simple enough I'll have to try it
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/17 01:04 AM

Melons. Lots of them.
Pears are plentiful.
Figs are about to turn.
Squash and cucumber plants died. Weird.
Tomatoes have butt rot. Not happy about that.
Good times.





Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/17 01:09 AM

You can make a great dump cake by stewing up some sugared pears and figs for your bottom layer.
Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/17 09:44 PM

Lemon cucumbers are making finally

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/17 10:10 PM

They had an article on growing cucumbers in the Houston Chronicle this morning. They mentioned lemon cucumbers.

Also, Sometimes you can get good tomatoes on a second crop after blossom end rot.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/17 08:15 PM

Jubilee

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/17 08:56 PM

I tried that last year and got one watermelon from six hills.
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/17 01:40 AM

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/17 01:44 AM

nice haul
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/17 03:31 PM

Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/17 03:34 PM

Dang, looking good. I miss my garden now. Wish I would have went ahead & planted.
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/17 10:51 PM

Holy cow! You could open a produce stand!
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/17 12:48 AM

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/17 03:49 PM

Nice cman, how's the new trees?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/17 05:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Nice cman, how's the new trees?


3 out of 7 are doing well. I have a little faith left for the plums. A little...
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/17 05:08 PM

I've been watering my new trees three times a week with this heat.
Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/17 09:28 PM

Hey chicken man figs look great will you trade for some?
Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/17 09:30 PM


My pepper are doing great this year.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/17 10:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Red Bone 936

My pepper are doing great this year.


Same here, bells and banana have been going nuts.
Posted By: PWT

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/17 12:10 AM

Squash bugs are taking over my garden! I tried google bout a week ago but that just helped get another week behind the game. I got some spray but that didn't do anything, I don't guess, they've left my squash plant and are hanging out on my tomato plants. I really don't want to burn it to the ground, so I wanted to see what you guys said.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/17 12:26 AM

sprinkle diatomaceous earth around the plants and get the eggs on the underside of the leaves. Pull the plants after they die then till your soil asap afterwards, wouldn't hurt to spread some de after tilling.
Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/17 04:23 AM

Use nail polish on the squash bug eggs. Spray bottle with half cap of Dawn dish soap rest of the bottle with water. Spray on bugs it will suffocate them. I do it at night spotlighting. Summer time kill fix!!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/17 06:44 PM

Olive tree I planted last year




Porterhouse 2.2#

Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/17 01:28 PM

Its coming together. Melons are thriving. Pretty cool.





Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/17 01:45 PM

nice haul, my figs are that size but still green
Posted By: pkhunter624

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/17 05:20 PM

Peppers and Tomatoes from this morning. 6-21-17

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/17 05:30 PM

Very nice
Posted By: PWT

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/17 12:33 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
sprinkle diatomaceous earth around the plants and get the eggs on the underside of the leaves. Pull the plants after they die then till your soil asap afterwards, wouldn't hurt to spread some de after tilling.


done sir,my squash plant is pretty much dead, I'm not finding any eggs on my cumber or tomato plants, just a few bugs on the tomato plants, ill keep looking and apply the DE again before and after tilling.


Originally Posted By: Red Bone 936
Use nail polish on the squash bug eggs. Spray bottle with half cap of Dawn dish soap rest of the bottle with water. Spray on bugs it will suffocate them. I do it at night spotlighting. Summer time kill fix!!


Thanks for the spray bottle suggestion, fun and effective!!


I really appreciate the quick replies fellas, good folks here..
Posted By: KC

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/17 04:01 AM

Today's haul
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/17 11:26 AM

very nice
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/17 11:27 AM

PSA. Store your tomatoes stem side down.
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/17 04:40 AM

Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/17 10:50 AM

Lost my 2 5 year old apricot trees, no apparent reason, but I suspect moles digging around the roots for moisture, trapped 8 of the bastages so far this year bang

Just as well I suppose, as they only fruit like every other year, if they don't freeze off with early blooms, even been mulling over swapping them with something else.
Posted By: poisonivie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/17 03:28 PM

For those of you with squash bugs, plant a few marigold plants around the garden. The bugs will go to them instead.
Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/17 09:19 PM

Will have to try planting marigold.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/17 04:08 PM

Salsa time


Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/17 07:58 PM

Nice haul!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/17 09:02 PM

Chop up some jalapenos when your salsa is done and add them in there. The vinegar and tomatoes will pickle them. I promise it will make a difference.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/17 09:04 PM

I posted my salsa recipe in this thread, go see if it has jalapenos in it.

Thanks CC
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/17 01:52 AM

Dang. Look at that!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/17 06:49 PM

Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/01/17 09:42 PM

From today.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/01/17 10:28 PM

very nice, do you do any fig canning?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/02/17 12:14 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
very nice, do you do any fig canning?


Megatron does not have time to make preserves these days. Its pretty upsetting.
Posted By: mikei

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/02/17 01:17 PM

We've heard the expression: all hat and no cattle. I've got a couple of banana pepper plants this year that are "all pepper and no bush!" (Or at least, not very much bush!) Both sweet and hot peppers. Amazing to me how they produce so well.


Posted By: sig226fan (Rguns.com)

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/04/17 07:10 PM

Canning day, 17 quarts pasta sauce, 25 pints of hot sauce
Posted By: sig226fan (Rguns.com)

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/04/17 07:11 PM

Posted By: sig226fan (Rguns.com)

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/04/17 07:13 PM

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/07/17 03:36 PM




I have one more pick on the tomatoes then I'm done.
Everything did great except the squash.
Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/07/17 11:35 PM

First ripe sugar baby, we have about 40 or so on the vine.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/17 01:10 AM

I planted six hills of watermelon last year and got one melon.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/17 01:34 AM

That's perfect Hancock


got any pics of your setup
Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/17 01:50 AM

Just a flat patch

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/17 01:52 AM

very nice, thanks
Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/17 02:20 AM

Thanks, cucumbers and green beans did great this year. Pulled out the squash a week or so ago. Something keeps eating the tops off our jalapeos. Deer?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/17 09:43 AM

probably, they got my japs and bells late in the season.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/10/17 01:25 AM

It has begun.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/10/17 10:34 PM

nice pickles
Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/11/17 01:50 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
nice pickles


roflmao nice harvest!
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/12/17 02:57 AM

I'm about to start a small garden in my back yard 5 4x4 ft raised beds. Going to run dripper hose off my sprinkler system on its own zone. Soaker hose will run around the parameter of each box and through the middle. What should I plant? We eat a lot of bell peppers, zucchini, squash, tomatoes, jalapeos, lettuce, onion, asparagus, carrots, corn, lol basically I need a damn farm but only have around 80 sqft of raised beds at this time.

Payne I'm also gonna need that salsa recipe I llooked back but couldn't find it in the 160 pages of this thread.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/12/17 01:18 PM

Everything you listed will work, just grow what you'll eat or your wasting time & space. I'd start the asparagus in a separate container/bed.




30 tomatoes peeled and chopped
2 green bell peppers
2 red bell peppers
10 cups of chopped onions
10 cloves of garlic
1.5 cups of chopped jalapenos, you can substitute 5 large banana peppers if you don't want the heat
1/2 cup of sugar
2 cups of vinegar
8 teaspoons of pickling salt
2 teaspoons of black pepper
2 large cans of tomato paste

mix ingredients in a large pot and get hot. You can drain the tomato juice before adding to pot if you like a chunky style of salsa.

simmer 1.5 hours stirring often, at the end of cooking time you can add half a bunch of cilantro if desired.

jar and process 35 minutes for pints 45 minutes for quarts

makes 17 pints
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/12/17 01:23 PM

Also look at companion planting. Set up each raised bed for that and you'll do well. Don't forget about companion flowers for your veggies.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/12/17 01:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Everything you listed will work, just grow what you'll eat or your wasting time & space. I'd start the asparagus in a separate container/bed.




30 tomatoes peeled and chopped
2 green bell peppers
2 red bell peppers
10 cups of chopped onions
10 cloves of garlic
1.5 cups of chopped jalapenos, you can substitute 5 large banana peppers if you don't want the heat
1/2 cup of sugar
2 cups of vinegar
8 teaspoons of pickling salt
2 teaspoons of black pepper
2 large cans of tomato paste

mix ingredients in a large pot and get hot. You can drain the tomato juice before adding to pot if you like a chunky style of salsa.

simmer 1.5 hours stirring often, at the end of cooking time you can add half a bunch of cilantro if desired.

jar and process 35 minutes for pints 45 minutes for quarts

makes 17 pints


My recipe is similar. I put the tomato paste in there at the end to keep down the splatter. Try it with chopped peppers at the end. The vinegar and tomato juice will pickle the peppers. You can taste the crunch. I don't process mine near as long.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/12/17 03:31 PM

Thank you Sir, I'm trying to get a layout done of what I want my beds to look like and draw out my irrigation system. Can't wait to get this done.

By the way that is a LOT of salsa lol. Do you eat that much or do you sell it?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/12/17 04:03 PM

eat & give it away

put the beds where they will get the most sun and drainage is good.

I can consult for $1250.oo an hour/ 4 hour minimum..
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/12/17 04:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
eat & give it away

put the beds where they will get the most sun and drainage is good.

I can consult for $1250.oo an hour/ 4 hour minimum..


This is what I'm thinking bed wise. Wanting them laid out like this so I can walk around to each side of each bed. The E stands for elbow and T stands for well a T fitting. The 90 is for 90 degree spray heads and 360 is for 360 degree spray heads rofl pretty strait forward stuff.

Does this look like this will work?

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/12/17 04:23 PM

that will work but I'd move the lines closer to the middle and off the wood.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/12/17 04:39 PM

The lines aren't soaker hoses, I changed my mind on that. This will be a dripper/mini sprinkler setup. The black lines are solid and doesn't soak any water out. Where the 90/360 will have mini sprinkler heads in those places. So the wood will not be sprayed the 90's will spray toward the middle away from the wood and the 360 will encompass the entire bed

Water coverage would be like this.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/12/17 04:50 PM

ah gotcha, thought you were going with soakers. looks good, how much sunlight will they get spring to summer?
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/12/17 04:53 PM

From about 9AM in the morning to around 8PM at night. Depending on the sun cycle of course but around 11-12 hours a day.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/12/17 05:04 PM

that will work, morning sun is better than afternoon sun. Plant the smaller plants, peppers and such, in front of the taller ones, tomatoes and such. They'll get more of the morning sun and be protected from the afternoon sun. If you're doing squash/zucchini I'd just use them in one box, they spread out a lot and could cover some of your other plants. I'd plant asparagus in another place instead of those beds. They take a while to produce but when they do it's constant. You'll want to clean up your beds after growing season and you can't do that with asparagus. How good are your shepherds? Might think of dog proofing.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/12/17 05:27 PM

Thanks for the help!!! Only have one shepherd now. I already have a wood/wire fence just have to put my gate back up. Since my shepherd has taken over the back yard and doesn't stay in the fence anymore.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/12/17 05:30 PM

You're welcome. Are you going to put a weed barrier under your beds?
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/12/17 05:35 PM

Yes going to put down that black cloth barrier under it.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/12/17 05:42 PM

5 4x4 pieces? pm me your addy, I'll mail you what you need.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/12/17 06:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Everything you listed will work, just grow what you'll eat or your wasting time & space. I'd start the asparagus in a separate container/bed.




30 tomatoes peeled and chopped
2 green bell peppers
2 red bell peppers
10 cups of chopped onions
10 cloves of garlic
1.5 cups of chopped jalapenos, you can substitute 5 large banana peppers if you don't want the heat
1/2 cup of sugar
2 cups of vinegar
8 teaspoons of pickling salt
2 teaspoons of black pepper
2 large cans of tomato paste

mix ingredients in a large pot and get hot. You can drain the tomato juice before adding to pot if you like a chunky style of salsa.

simmer 1.5 hours stirring often, at the end of cooking time you can add half a bunch of cilantro if desired.

jar and process 35 minutes for pints 45 minutes for quarts

makes 17 pints


You can leave out the vinegar and oregano for a great marinara. I make up a few pints each year a n freeze them. I only cook the marinara until the onions turn.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/13/17 08:42 PM





Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/13/17 11:10 PM

I planted this broccoli from see on August first. I transplanted it around the middle of September when I planted my turnips.


Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I plan to cook up some mustards and turnips Friday, along with scratch cornbread, fried pork chops, blackened peas, and chow-chow.



I'm looking forward to steamed broccoli , Sunday to go along with my grilled tenderloin, and baked potato.



The hot October has caused my cilantro to bolt.




Maybe, just maybe I will have a few slicer


tomatoes to make turkey, bacon clubs, with my leftover turkey during the holidays.



This was a volunteer that I transplanted on the south side of my house.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/15/17 08:48 PM

Indoor lettuce from the aquaponic garden and some cantaloupe that wasn't ready to be pulled. Thanks, son. crazy

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/15/17 09:56 PM

pics of the aquaponics?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/16/17 12:27 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
pics of the aquaponics?


Tower Garden. Nothing to brag about.
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/16/17 02:43 AM

Originally Posted By: Chickenman
Indoor lettuce from the aquaponic garden and some cantaloupe that wasn't ready to be pulled. Thanks, son. crazy



So I take it that he Didn't get his Dollar?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/17/17 02:46 PM

done for the season





Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/17/17 06:01 PM

Yeah, we pulled cucumber plants out yesterday and had some batting practice.
Posted By: J.P. Greeson

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/17/17 06:20 PM

I really like the campari tomatoes from Sam's, so I found some seeds on the web and planted these around the coop with basil and a few bell pepper plants as well.



Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/17/17 08:21 PM

Looks great JP! Built in insect control
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/01/17 02:31 PM

I tilled up and fertilized a row this morning. I plan to sow some broccoli and cauliflower seeds in part of it tomorrow and hope for the rains to rain them in. I'll transplant them in mid September.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/05/17 01:49 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I tilled up and fertilized a row this morning. I plan to sow some broccoli and cauliflower seeds in part of it tomorrow and hope for the rains to rain them in. I'll transplant them in mid September.


They are already coming up. Here you go.


Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/29/17 07:13 PM

Hadn't been out to the garden for 3 or 4 days and BAM!!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/06/17 02:06 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I tilled up and fertilized a row this morning. I plan to sow some broccoli and cauliflower seeds in part of it tomorrow and hope for the rains to rain them in. I'll transplant them in mid September.


They are already coming up. Here you go.




Look what survived Harvey.

I should be able to transplant my broccoli within a week or so. Looks like around three dozen.



I didn't get a good stand on my cauliflower. Maybe a half dozen.



My cilantro comes back about twice a year. Take a peek.

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/27/17 02:08 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I tilled up and fertilized a row this morning. I plan to sow some broccoli and cauliflower seeds in part of it tomorrow and hope for the rains to rain them in. I'll transplant them in mid September.


They are already coming up. Here you go.




Look what survived Harvey.

I should be able to transplant my broccoli within a week or so. Looks like around three dozen.



I didn't get a good stand on my cauliflower. Maybe a half dozen.



My cilantro comes back about twice a year. Take a peek.




It's not pretty, but its the best I could do. Here are my transplants. You can see turnips and mustard greens on the left.



I still have these that I plan to give to my neighbors.




I can now start using my cilantro.

Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/27/17 02:49 PM

we have a small 4x8 garden spot that we normally leave the summer tomato plants in that produce fall tomatoes but we pulled up the plants when they quit producing back in July ... is now the time to plant something like turnips or other greens to produce until we get a freeze? other things to plant now?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/27/17 03:06 PM

Some of the fall plants will take a freeze, including, turnips, broccoli, cabbage, and cauliflower.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/27/17 03:06 PM

broccoli, brussel sprouts, cabbage and cauliflower are fall garden staples
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/27/17 06:13 PM

might give some a try, thanks
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/27/17 06:18 PM

here's a list I posted, its the Victoria area so your dates may be a week or so early

Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/27/17 06:43 PM

wow, Dec. for mustard and turnip? that seems late ...
Posted By: Navasot

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/27/17 07:18 PM

Sure anywere north of 10 it would be early

Victoria could prolly grow them all winter
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/13/17 12:56 AM

Trying to see which type of fall/winter plants do well in my area. Last year was a bust.

3 kinds of cabbage
broccoli
dinosaur kale
red spinach

I did find a Kiowa pecan spout that come off a root that I thought was dead. Thats pretty cool. Not sure when to plant that. Its pretty small. 4" or so.

Posted By: Red Bone 936

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/14/17 12:27 AM

Got my Wintergarden going squash zucchini brussels sprouts cabbage carrots broccoli cabbage.

Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/27/17 02:25 AM

Transplanted a kiowa pecan sapling two days ago. One of my younger kids has already stepped on it after removing the cage that was protecting it. Bummer. MIA or KIA. Not sure except its gone.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/29/17 04:44 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I tilled up and fertilized a row this morning. I plan to sow some broccoli and cauliflower seeds in part of it tomorrow and hope for the rains to rain them in. I'll transplant them in mid September.


They are already coming up. Here you go.




Look what survived Harvey.

I should be able to transplant my broccoli within a week or so. Looks like around three dozen.



I didn't get a good stand on my cauliflower. Maybe a half dozen.



My cilantro comes back about twice a year. Take a peek.




It's not pretty, but its the best I could do. Here are my transplants. You can see turnips and mustard greens on the left.



I still have these that I plan to give to my neighbors.




I can now start using my cilantro.






Beautiful day. Lets compare and contrast.

This is one of my best cauliflower plants. It's starting to curl in around where the head will be. It should be ready for thanksgiving. I've had them on the thanksgiving dinner table in the past. My wife was great at dressing up the dinner table. She made centerpiece with them.



The broccoli is getting ready to head. I transplanted three dozen of them, and gave away that many or more.



My mustard greens are ready. I'm just not yet in the mood. I picked up some ham hocks last week. Maybe next week.



Cilantro of coarse.


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I gave my neighbor half of my garden. He planted some sweet potatoes and shared a few. Here again, I make a thanksgiving sweet potato dish using maple syrup , with a dash of cayenne.

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/29/17 04:45 PM

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/03/17 02:51 PM

My turnips are now bulbiing. I plan to cook up some next week with a batch of mustard greens.




That planting chart was wrong for broccoli. I planted these from seed on August first. I transplanted them around the middle of September. Take a close look and you can see a broccoli head starting to form.



I'm putting cilantro in everything I cook. It's still trying to take over.


Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/17/17 04:13 PM

Looks as if I'm the only one left on this forum.

My broccoli has started to head. Take a peek.



I will have broccoli to eat, freeze, and give away through Christmas.

I plan to make a hot and sour soup with some of my turnips and turkey trimmings next week. They are ready.

Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/17/17 07:56 PM

Went outside and took some pictures for you Bill. My fall cherry tomatoes are still producing strong. They love this mild weather. We can't eat them fast enough.




Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/19/17 05:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Sniper John
Went outside and took some pictures for you Bill. My fall cherry tomatoes are still producing strong. They love this mild weather. We can't eat them fast enough.



Do you recall when those were planted? Looks great.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/19/17 05:55 PM

They are actually volunteer plants that came up from seed of fallen tomatoes off my spring plants. They were sprouting wild before the spring plants gave out. At least a couple transplanted from the edge of my compost pile. Initially I had no idea what kind of plants I would get. The red cherry is probably a hybrid of others I had or sprouted from a grocery store tomato. The shape and taste is not exactly like anything I had growing originally.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/19/17 06:17 PM

looks great, I planted cabbage, radishes, cauliflower, brussel sprouts and broccoli. The deer ate the first go around so my second planting is a couple of inches tall.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/08/17 01:37 PM

I think my broccoli and cauliflower will survive. The cauliflower had baseball size heads.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/22/17 04:16 PM

Deer wiped me out again only left me the radishes.


Posted By: GLC

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/27/17 07:03 PM

So what do yall use to make your beds? I have a 24 hp tractor. I have been looking for something like a two row bedder, 3 point hook up, but cant find anything.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/18 11:39 PM

Soil samples sent to TAMU this week.

http://soiltesting.tamu.edu/files/soilwebform.pdf

Got a tiller motor to replace next. Praying a predator will match the old Briggs motor. It should.

H19 cucumbers have been sowed. First year doing them. These were developed and released by the University of Arkansas in 1991. Plants produce fruit under stress and without pollinators, guaranteeing high yields. Parthenocarpic 3-4" fruit. We'll see.

I'll start the tomatoes in 3 weeks.

Hung a grow light from the aquaphonics garden to give them more light. May have to hang another on the middle shelf later and add a fan to that window.


Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/18 02:37 PM

up
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/22/18 12:07 AM

Worked a half yard of chicken [censored], topsoil, and compost into the gardens. I have more to add.

Sowed more. About half done I think. Getting sprouts already too.




Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/22/18 12:19 AM

Looks good, did get your soil test back?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/22/18 12:37 AM

Nope. They haven't deposited the check either. day 6. Weird. Unimpressed so far grin

I have at least a half yard of leafmold from an area of my yard does not get raked. Hoping to be able to use that this year. It will be a chore to extract it but worth it.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/22/18 12:44 AM

Nice
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/22/18 12:49 AM

It's probably the micronutrients holding them up..
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/22/18 12:54 AM

I need to put in some onion sets soon. Anyone seen them in the stores?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/22/18 12:55 AM

They have been out at my feed store since Christmas.
Posted By: Ders26

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/23/18 04:05 PM

I figured there would be more activity this time of year. This is my second year to garden. Last week, I got my ground tilled up. I am hoping to get some onion sets put in the ground in the next day or two.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/24/18 12:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Ders26
I figured there would be more activity this time of year.


I tilled once a few days ago smile

TAMU said the results will come in on Friday or Monday. Hoping for Friday.

Sowed everything except peas and beans. Not sure when I'll do those.

Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/24/18 01:43 AM

Originally Posted By: Ders26
I figured there would be more activity this time of year. This is my second year to garden. Last week, I got my ground tilled up. I am hoping to get some onion sets put in the ground in the next day or two.


I put mine in the ground about 3 days before the deep freeze, I'll be replanting in a week or two.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/24/18 10:17 PM

They had onion sets at Home Depot. I got a bunch of 1015s and a bunch of red onions. There were only 45 or so per bunch. I just put them in the ground. My garden was perfect for tilling It felt good to be out. I tilled up a row for my neighbor who is sharing my garden. I'm cutting back again this spring.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/25/18 04:24 PM

Any of you fellas have out any cole crops yet? I'm thinking about planting some cauliflower, broccoli and maybe a little cabbage earlier this year, like 1st week of Feb if I can find sets. I should have ordered seed Dec 1st, iirc they don't put sets out around here until somewhat late.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/27/18 10:55 PM

TUMA results aren't in yet still. Bummer.

Everything has been started. Early.

Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/27/18 11:54 PM

Replanted my onions today, hope we don't see 9 degrees again. The 1st onions were actually putting on growth but had a rotten outside. Figured it was best to just start over.
Posted By: Ders26

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/18 02:28 PM

I put onions in the ground yesterday. Potatoes are next for me.
Posted By: snake oil

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/02/18 11:10 PM

I'm doing onions soon.......
Posted By: Dustnsand

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/03/18 02:51 AM

Originally Posted By: Chickenman
TUMA results aren't in yet still. Bummer.

Everything has been started. Early.



Dont feel too bad. Im waiting on test results from the testing lab too. Its been almost 2 months since I sent them.

It is about 500 samples though..
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/03/18 02:11 PM

Do you cut or quarter your potatoes or plant them whole? I cut last year and didnt get the best results.. thinking Ill go whole this year.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/05/18 01:27 AM

Several have not sprouted including the cantaloupe. crazy

Posted By: Ders26

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/05/18 01:56 PM

This is my first year growing potatoes. I was told to cut the larger ones where two eyes or more were on each piece.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/05/18 02:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Ders26
This is my first year growing potatoes. I was told to cut the larger ones where two eyes or more were on each piece.


That's the classic way to plant them. I simply picked out the medium ones and planted them whole.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/06/18 05:31 PM

I got a six pack of the Bonnie Original at Home Depot. It was the only one they had I six packs. They are now in the ground. I may move them later.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/07/18 01:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Ders26
This is my first year growing potatoes. I was told to cut the larger ones where two eyes or more were on each piece.


Cut them a day or two before you intend to plant, then spread them out on a sheet or something else so the cuts can "skin" over. Once the cut sides skin over, this will protect the flesh from bacteria/rot.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/12/18 09:21 PM

Anyone do soil testing? I bought a kit for the lease and tested my garden and yard this past weekend. I was surprised to find both soils were way high on pH.. 7.5+ which probably explains why i did well on okra and corn last year, so so on tomatoes and peppers, and poorly on potatoes.
My garden also showed depleted of nitrogen and potassium but in good range for phosphorus.. I added some sulfate and potassium this weekend and will mix in some blood mill when planting the summer crops.

Oh, and I planted my medium sized potatoes whole this weekend.. use to cut them in the past, rub a little sulfer on and let the skin harden before planting.. well see how this goes..
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/18 03:55 PM

I don't do soil testing. I use 13/13/13 and put more than enough on there. I always plated my potatoes whole.

My onion sets started out small this year. They are just now staring to grow. Here you go.



I always have volunteer cilantro around the edges. Take a peek.



My beast tomatoes should bloom in a couple of weeks.





Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/20/18 03:11 PM

Historically speaking, its too early to plant summer crops here in North Texas, but the extended forecast looks like were real close. I just remember getting 6 of snow on March 5th about 3 years ago..
When is everyone else planning to put seeds in the ground up here? Seems like you Houston folks are behind if not already planted.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/20/18 04:09 PM

I plant mid march every year
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/20/18 04:10 PM

I went ahead and bought 12 Celebrity plants, 6 bell pepper & 6 Jalapeno plants but I am going to keep them in pots and will move them inside if we get any freezes, I probably wont plant them in my garden until late march. Just didn't want to wait when I saw they had the plants out, two years ago I had trouble finding what I wanted when I waited till March. I will be planting more than that, just wanted to try to get ahead if I can.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/21/18 12:57 AM

Any of you guys have experience with mycorrhizal?

Originally Posted By: Them People
Endo Mycorrhizal Benefecial Fungi. Highly beneficial soil fungus when applied to plant roots. Once applied, it coexists with the plants roots throughout its entire life. The mycorrhizae actively helps obtain nutrients and moisture from the soil resulting in in faster growth.


https://buildasoil.com/products/mycorrhizal-granular-inoculum?variant=578953705
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/21/18 01:47 AM

Stevearino, I was wondering the same. Planted my 1015 onions last week. Thinking about peas, green beans, spinach, anything with seeds? I understand on plants not until first of March.
Any help would be great.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/21/18 01:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Dalee7892
Stevearino, I was wondering the same. Planted my 1015 onions last week. Thinking about peas, green beans, spinach, anything with seeds? I understand on plants not until first of March.
Any help would be great.


Put in a few seed potatoes.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/21/18 02:15 AM

Originally Posted By: Dalee7892
Stevearino, I was wondering the same. Planted my 1015 onions last week. Thinking about peas, green beans, spinach, anything with seeds? I understand on plants not until first of March.
Any help would be great.


Yeah, my potatoes are in the ground.. summer stuff usually goes in late March but we seem to have mild temps coming up and may plant early to mid March.
If they dont come up, Ill just have to replant and have done so in the past. We have such a short window up here to get to pickin before it turns too hot..

Okra, corn can probably go in the next couple weeks. Maybe late March early April for squash, other plants like tomatoes and peppers, melons..
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/21/18 02:51 AM

Okra thrives with the heat, plant them when you start pulling spring plants. Cucumbers & squash are ready to be sowed now.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/21/18 12:54 PM

iirc, last average frost up here is March 12th, or very close to that. Cole crops, potatoes and onions are gtg here last week.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/18 02:30 AM

Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/18 02:41 PM

Even after getting all that rain, my wife and I was still able to get out there Sunday and pull all the old weed control fabric and craploads of weeds that has grown for two years (didn't do garden last year), raked all the leaves, etc. I went ahead and sprayed weed killer around the perimeter too. Was too muddy to till but it is still probably a little early for me to plant anyway, I wont plant till mid May, if I do it will just be a few tomatoes and peppers so I can cover them up easily if it freezes. Looking forward to having my garden back. I'll snap some pics when I plant.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/18 04:30 PM

I love the aroma of wild onions when I'm mowing in the early spring. Here is a clump that came back.



Here is an area that has yet to be mowed. They will come back green.



Like them? Ever chop them up in dishes?

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/18 04:35 PM

This one should bloom next week.



My onions finally started growing.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/18 07:27 PM




Chopped up the winter weeds & clover. Hoping it will be dry enough to get the disc & tiller in there in the next seven~ten days.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/18 07:37 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
I wont plant till mid May



You plant in May?
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/18 09:04 PM

sorry mid march.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/18 04:08 PM

My ten day forecast didn't show any night below 53 degrees, so I muddled in some zucchini and yellow squash seeds. I plan to plant only one hill of each. My bell peppers, jalapeos, and cucumbers will go in next.
Posted By: Ders26

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/18 04:44 PM

It is going to have to dry up a lot before I can plant anything.
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/18 06:40 PM

When is it too late to plant? I have pepper seeds taking off in the peat pellets I put them in, they are about ready to go in the ground. I'm also wanting to do some other stuff I saw at the local Lowes. I am super busy for the next 3 weeks, is that too long?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/18 07:34 PM

perfect timing to plant
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/18 06:05 PM

After looking at the weather I'm going to go ahead and plant this weekend. If we do get a freeze, hopefully it will be minor and I can cover them up. I don't think I have ever planted this early.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/18 06:19 PM

If you have any incandescent Christmas lights you can wrap them around the plants to keep them warm also. Good Luck
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/18 09:51 PM

Just finished tilling my second row. Headed to Home Depot tomorrow in search of bell pepper and jalapeno plants.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/18 02:18 PM

I hope this sun today dries mine out enough that I can till tomorrow. My Ol lady said she would help me get it all covered with fabric and planted. Only thing I dont have yet is my cucumbers. I bought 12 celebrity plants but most of them were double and triple plants so I separated them and ended up with 25 out of those 12. Also doing 8 jalapeno, 5 bell, 2 cayenne, onions and for the first time, Cilantro.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/18 02:31 PM

You could sow seed for the cukes. They grow so rapidly you won't be behind.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/18 02:36 PM

I will do that then Thank you sir. I have a 4x8 sheet of lattice, will cukes grow good on lattice?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/18 02:53 PM

I'm sure they would, I use 4x6 wire tied on rebar and have a hard time keeping up with them
Posted By: Ders26

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/18 02:55 PM

I use cattle panels for my cucs to grow on. They seem to work fine.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/18 03:05 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
I will do that then Thank you sir. I have a 4x8 sheet of lattice, will cukes grow good on lattice?


I use my regular coned tomato cages with rods or sticks crossed at the top.
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/18 03:13 PM

Squirrels would tear apart any veggies they enjoy eating at my place. I can't plant tomatoes or cucs. I see them running through the trees and power lines. They are waiting to see what I do, I know it.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/18 03:52 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
I will do that then Thank you sir. I have a 4x8 sheet of lattice, will cukes grow good on lattice?


Yes, that's what I used to use.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/18 03:54 PM

Skinner if you can't do a garden, I'd be happy to send you packages as long I'm growing this year.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/18 03:56 PM

I need to get a cattle panel, that would last much longer.

Last year I did similar to the way Bill describes, but I used tomato cages and rope. Worked ok but looking for a better setup.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/18 04:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Skinner if you can't do a garden, I'd be happy to send you packages as long I'm growing this year.


That's a fine offer Sir, and much appreciated!
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/18 04:59 PM

Originally Posted By: skinnerback
Originally Posted By: Payne
Skinner if you can't do a garden, I'd be happy to send you packages as long I'm growing this year.


That's a fine offer Sir, and much appreciated!


Me too, I would like to send you some stuff when I'm going good, please pm me your address or I will bother the crap out of you by pm until you do. up
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/18 06:15 PM

roflmao Thanks guys.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/18 08:32 PM





More rain in the forecast for next week so i just knocked it out while the weather was nice.
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/18 08:36 PM

Onions looking good, planted tomato's yesterday and have potato plants just starting to come up. Last year my cukes took off well but then seem to die from the ground up. ??
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/18 08:39 PM

How were you watering the cukes?
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/18 08:42 PM

I would say they got water once a week.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/18 08:46 PM

Sprinkler drip soaker hose?

They take a lot of water especially when it's hot & dry
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/18 09:49 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Just finished tilling my second row. Headed to Home Depot tomorrow in search of bell pepper and jalapeno plants.


Home Depot only had $5 plants. I had to go to Houston Garden. Got these for $1.19 each.




I just watered them in. I'm done except for planting a few seeds.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/18 10:35 PM

What does it say under recipe?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/18 11:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
What does it say under recipe?


Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/18 11:47 PM

That's interesting
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/18 05:53 PM

Seems to be a good price on your peppers Bill. I usually like to buy the 6-pak of plants. Smaller plant but they were $1.95 per pak. Not as many to choose from this year.
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/18 05:07 AM

Planted our seeds (peas), plants - tomatoes, peppers, squash, Bush beans, some Herbs today. Hopefully no COLD weather coming.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/18 03:16 PM

Got the garden all tilled, rows made, covered with weed control and onions planted. Decided to hold off on maters and pepper plants, we have mid 30's a couple of nights this week in the forecast so I figure they are better off in the pots right now. Plus after all that and other yard cleanup and organizing one of my sheds, we were tired.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/18 04:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Dalee7892
Planted our seeds (peas), plants - tomatoes, peppers, squash, Bush beans, some Herbs today. Hopefully no COLD weather coming.


Wind now blowing 25mph from the NORTH - upper 30's tonight,
and LOWER 30's Tue nite - Prolly cold enough for a frost in open areas of North Texas . . .
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/18 04:15 PM

The forecast is for a low of 45 here. I should be fine. I caged half of my tomatoes this morning. Remember that I promised you blooms?



I have basketball size cilantro. I'm flagging neighbors down to give it away.



I can now start using some of my green onions. See my ladybug?




My peppers came with buds. I'm not sure these will stick.




Looks as if I will get a good stand on my squash. Rain is in the forecast for tonight, but unlike beans, squash will not break its necks with a hard rain. Take a peek.






Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/18 07:50 PM




Posted By: maximum

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/18 08:03 PM

planted some seed yesterday and today.
we'll see what's what.
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/18 11:00 PM

Might get little chilly tonight covered plants with milk jugs, keep wind and COLD air off. Might work like hot house, maybe.
Hope all be good.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/18 03:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Dalee7892
Might get little chilly tonight covered plants with milk jugs, keep wind and COLD air off. Might work like hot house, maybe.
Hope all be good.


I had frost on my car windshield this morning; will be colder tonight frown
All my fruit trees are beginning to bud - hope they don't get nipped...
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/18 03:45 PM

my little Sam Houston peach tree already has little bitty fruit set ...
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/18 08:29 PM



Transplants are in and caged. Sow seeds tomorrow. The row on the far left is going to be all flowers. Going to plant marigolds on all ends, a mix on the left row and companion plants with the transplants. Need to get basil for the tomatoes.





Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/18 10:14 PM

Marigolds are a great idea. May get some seeds for my leftover space.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/18 02:19 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Marigolds are a great idea. May get some seeds for my leftover space.


Was thinking the same. Gonna pick up some seeds at lunch today.
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/18 05:09 PM

Why are you planting the marigolds?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/18 05:12 PM

aphids, squash bugs, thrips, tomato hornworms
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/18 11:13 AM

Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/18 01:46 PM

I had volunteer marigolds come up this year.
Posted By: Ders26

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/18 07:41 PM

Well I think today is the day I plant the rest of my garden. My potatoes finally broke the surface this morning so I figure I should give them some company.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/18 09:04 PM

A lot of work got done today. I have turned both gardens several weeks ago before the rains and planned on doing it again today. Tiller broke a spring, threw belts, and lost a bolt somedamnwhere.

My sons and I rowed it by hand. Got it covered and laid straw. Tired.



Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/18 11:02 PM

Horse hay?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/18 11:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Horse hay?


Coastal. Only thing TS had yesterday. I prefer straw.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/18 12:03 AM

Used Mycorrhizae for the first time. Derek on the TFF highly suggested it so I am trying it.

remove dirt from root balls
soak roots in water for 20 minutes
prep your spots/holes
remove plant from water, let it drain some, and sprinkle 1 tsp or so on the roots making sure that the product touches the roots
plant
water

Planted black eyed peas, zucchini, and squash today. Much more to go yawn











Why am I taking advise from this guy?

Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/18 02:00 PM

Dereks a good dude.

We got 23 tomato plants in, 150 or so onions, Cuke seeds sowed and a couple of Bell pepper plants in. Still have more Bells, jalapeno & cayenne's to plant. Pray for no freezes in Henderson county, I'm in deep doo doo if it does.
Posted By: Wytex

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/18 08:04 PM

Well, I'm jealous again this year, we don't get to plant until June.
I do have about 6 different varieties of chile seeds germinating right now.
Going to try some Trinidad Moruga Scorpions this year for a hot chile beer made here in town. A local brewer uses our hops every fall and hopefully will use my scorpions for his chile beer this year.
I can almost get some onions and garlic in now, but not quite, soil is still frozen down about 2 inches.
I know we'll freeze until April so hoping the best for you all !!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/18 08:17 PM

Have you ever thought of making a hydroponic system?
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/18 08:20 PM

Peas are breaking thru, tomatoes, squash, peppers and bean plants looking good.
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/18 03:44 AM

COLD weather tonight and tomorrow night mid thirty, cover veggie plants.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/18 02:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Dalee7892
COLD weather tonight and tomorrow night mid thirty, cover veggie plants.

got to 32 last nite near Valley View - glad I don't have anything susceptible out yet ...
Posted By: Wytex

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/18 02:59 PM

Not inside, no room. Outside , even too cold now to keep it warm. We're still down into teens at night with some more cold to come.
I just have to live with our short growing season.
Rain in the forecast for this weekend, that's always a sign spring is thinking about coming around, snow forecast though for Sunday.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/18 11:29 PM

The cut worms or worm cut down half of pepper plants .
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/18 03:45 PM

My tomatoes are doing good so far, we got down to 35 last night but they are all still alive and looking good, I think if I can get through the next two weeks, I will be in the clear. And most important of all, I will be ahead of alot of people I know that also garden. They are all saying I planted too early, gonna lose it all blah, blah, blah. I tell them yeah, i'll be eating tomatoes watching you plant your garden, chumps. roflmao All in fun. I look at it like this, if I have to replace it all (which I wont) I would be out like 30 bucks.

Still need that addy Skinner. Don't make me have to send you 500 PM's
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/18 04:31 PM

Been putting milk jugs and buckets over the plants for the last several nights. Seems to help and water the next morning. Looking good so far.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/18 12:00 AM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
The cut worms or worm cut down half of pepper plants .


Spray your plants with Bt Bacillus thuringiensis at dusk. Sunlight breaks it down and most caterpillars are active at night. There is a homemade bait that attract them that you spread over your garden. It's a mixture of plain cereal, molasses and Bt. I don't remember the exact ratio on the mix, but I'm sure google does. Just spraying my plants about every 10 days with Bt works for me for any caterpillar.

Side note. I don't spray my herbs with it. I grow those not only to eat but as host plants for beneficial Butterflies.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/18 12:35 AM

1 down. Tired.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/18 12:43 AM

How long are those rows? What did you plant?


Sheryl's looking bad.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/18 12:51 AM

20-23' I think.

Blackeyed peas, beefsteaks, zucchini, and squash.

Pickles, all the peppers, romas, cherries, and the melons are next. yawn
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/18 06:41 PM

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/18 08:47 PM

What are you guys doing about squash borers this year? I in dread that you should wrap the bottom stalk with aluminum foil. I may try that.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/18 10:23 PM

Have you tried neem oil?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/18 11:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Have you tried neem oil?


No. I tried seven dust last year and it didn't work.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/18 12:04 AM

Neem penetrates the vine so it's quite effective. Sevin is the devil.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/18 02:48 PM

Looked, lookie. This is on my Bonnie variety. More coming on.





Onions are ready to start bulbing.
Posted By: Wytex

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/18 05:39 PM

Well heck! We had 9 inches of heavy wet snow on Thursday night, no power for a while and branches everywhere.
Finally I have 3 Moruga Scorpion seeds sprouting, all the other chiles are up and doing well.
I'm on track for late May, early June planting.

Nice looking plants Bill, my garlic and onions will go in next week. Should still be before our last freeze, raised beds got their dose of sheep manure just before the snow.
Now we need to get the hops string up before they start emerging.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/18 10:20 PM

2nd garden is done. Peppers, tomatoes, pickling cucumbers, and the melons are in the back.

2 cucumber plants have already dried up after a few hours after watering crazy

Storms or at least good rain is coming tonight so thats good.

Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/18 12:44 AM

6 peas and 3 cucumber plants have died. Gave a bunch away. Not sure what store bought plants to put on those spots. Dill for sure.

Sheryl Crow was put out to pasture today.

Introducing Betsy Ross.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/18 12:45 AM

flag love it
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/18 04:25 PM

up
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/24/18 12:38 AM




Saw these today and couldn't pass them up. It was a little windy.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/18 04:18 PM

My tomatoes have finally started setting in clumps. Take a peek.



Squash.



My onions are bulbiing


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Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/18 12:06 PM

What do you suggest to keep the squirrels off my plants?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/18 12:13 PM

17hmr
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/18 12:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
17hmr


My gardens are behind my detached garage and I live in a neighborhood. Need other ideas.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/18 01:39 PM

Plastic owl
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/18 01:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Cherokee Mingan
Originally Posted By: Payne
17hmr


My gardens are behind my detached garage and I live in a neighborhood. Need other ideas.

Jack Russell or Carnes terrier ...
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/18 01:42 PM

I vote for the jack russel terrorist
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/18 02:05 PM

I have a smart dachshund that I could probably train to "get the squirrel!" along with a plastic owl. This might work!




Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/18 02:33 PM

You'll need to rotate the owl around or they'll get used to it and go to the buffet.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/18 02:43 PM

You think those owl decoys would work at night against rats? They are he// on my bigger tomatoes and pepper plants. Theyre smarter than the rat traps and get off those big sticky traps..
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/18 02:47 PM

It might, I'd get one with the glowing eyes. Snakes get a pass around the garden area here.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/18 02:49 PM

I vote for a rat terrorist grin
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/18 02:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Stevarino
You think those owl decoys would work at night against rats? They are he// on my bigger tomatoes and pepper plants. Theyre smarter than the rat traps and get off those big sticky traps..


Order some walk the plank mouse traps from amazon.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/18 03:35 PM

My yard is loaded with squirrels. They only seem interested in my tomatoes. Forget vine ripened. Pick them at first blush. Works for me.
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/18 07:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Cherokee Mingan
Originally Posted By: Payne
17hmr


My gardens are behind my detached garage and I live in a neighborhood. Need other ideas.

BB gun.
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/18 08:27 PM

Pellet rifle. They've got some good fps out there.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/18 10:16 PM

I havent seen any yet but know theyll come around. Caught two in traps last year and another got off a sticky trap but had enough glue on his feet and tail to hold him on the chicken wire till daylight.
I messed up last year and killed a 4ft rat snake.. knee jerk reaction after he scared the chit out of me.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/18 10:29 PM

I've seen fake snakes put in gardens to keep other pests away. I still vote for a rat terrorist...
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/18 10:31 PM

CC's suggestion looks pretty good also.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/18 11:31 PM

I once saw one climbing up a pecan tree with a dark red tomato in its mouth. It looked like one of those circus seals with a ball on top of its nose. They really don't bother my green tomatoes.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/18 03:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
CC's suggestion looks pretty good also.


Only bad thing was I lost a green Anole to one of them. Guess he was gonna catch him some rays but instead slid in and drown. They catch the chit outa some mice & rats though.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/18 03:12 PM

I ordered two for the feed room. Do you use peanut butter for bait?
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/18 03:34 PM

yep
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/18 03:37 PM



Just gotta get cages on now.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/18 03:46 PM

looks good, what did you plant?
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/18 03:52 PM

24 Celebrity tomato
2 red bell
6 green bell
6 jalapeno
2 mammoth jalapeno
2 mild jalapeno
Pickling cucumber seeds (between the white pipes - gotta get my lattice tied to the pipes for the cukes to grow on)
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/18 04:10 PM


got our little tomato patch planted this past weekend. 6 different varieties to see which ones perform the best. Also planted a mild jalapeno in a separate tub planter.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/18 04:17 PM

looks good PMK
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/18 05:38 PM

thanks! Our little peach tree is loaded with peaches this year (thankfully my wife didn't do the pruning) that are about the size of golf balls. And it appears like our plum tree will have fruit for the first time this year.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/18 05:43 PM

Santa Rosa?
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/18 06:33 PM

Got figs already started.
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/18 07:24 PM




Peas, tomatoes, beans, mint
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/18 07:31 PM


Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/18 07:50 PM

Nice setup, looks good
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/18 08:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Nice setup, looks good


offtopic


Looks as if you are getting a nice rain.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/18 09:00 PM

2.6" with some jellybean sized hail.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/18 02:00 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne



Saw these today and couldn't pass them up. It was a little windy.


You're going to like those. They are my current favorite. Big producers of smaller tomatoes with great flavor. My one IP I planted last year ended up over 8' and I lost count when I hit the 500+ mark. I use a 16' cattle panel bent in half as the cage. I planted 2 this year.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/18 02:42 AM

Here are my Improved Porters. Pic 1 is from Monday. Pic 2 is from today. That's how fast they grow.


Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/18 11:01 AM

I found those browsing my feed stores plants. I planted & caged them under a cattle panel trellis. I have never grown Porters.
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/18 11:47 AM

Not going into he garden this weekend, we got a little over 5" of rain in the last 2 days. Have an artesian well in the middle of it from a gopher hole.
Looks like a creek coming out between my rows of potatoes.
Posted By: snake oil

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/18 04:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Derek
Here are my Improved Porters. Pic 1 is from Monday. Pic 2 is from today. That's how fast they grow.





Is that saran wrap around those cages?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/18 08:16 PM

It's it. Kinda makes a mini green house and protects them from the wind when they're small. Once they get a little bigger I'll cut it off.
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/18 06:26 PM

My daughter and I finished the garden the last weekend. We got

hot variety of peppers (just my thing)
Bell peppers
squash
cucumbers
cowpeas
carrots
yellow onion
green onion
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/18 02:56 PM

My Bonnie variety tomatoes are loading up great. I can now see green tomatoes from my kitchen window over 100 feet away. They must have over a dozen on each vine. Take a peek.



I finally got a good stand on my burpless cucumbers. I may transplant three to another hill.




I have one store bought onion left. Looks as if that will be my last. My 1015Y onions are bulbing up just fine.




I'm already using the green onion tops. I used one to garnish this fish dish last week.






Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/02/18 12:38 AM

Growing....



Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/03/18 03:45 PM

All of my tomato plants are now setting tomatoes and my bell peppers have thumbnail size peppers. Fresh garden salad in a couple of weeks. I feel as if I'm about a month ahead of the old days.
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/18 09:27 PM

Is it normal to get multiple female flowers well before male flowers on yellow squash? Two years in a row now ive had this issue. Im a week into having female only and loosing the fruit on 7 plants.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/18 10:00 PM

confused2 squash has two different gender of blooms??? I didn't know that ... maybe that's why we rarely ever get squash to produce ... hmmm, learned something new
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/18 10:17 PM

It's normal, are these the first flowers of the year?
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/18 10:36 PM

How do you tell the difference between the male to female flowers? Does one come with a dickydo?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/18 10:39 PM

Check where the flower meets the stem, the female will have a little bulb


Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/18 03:21 AM

Man am I learning stuff. Just Google about the squash flowers. The male does not produce, if you want to hand pollinate pick male and rub on the female, or Waite for the bees. It don't hurt to pluck the male flower.
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/18 11:49 AM

So it appears that I may have over planted my cucumbers and squash. Should I pick all the males out or something like that so they don't choke out everything else I have?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/18 12:07 PM

got a pic of the garden and how they're setup?
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/18 12:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
It's normal, are these the first flowers of the year?

Yes these are the first round of flowers this year. Im use to seeing 1 or 2 female flowers per plant before males, but this year each plant has put on half a dozen females first. What I would do for just 1 male flower right now roflmao
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/18 12:27 PM

I don't have any pics handy atm but I planted the seeds to close together from what I am being told. Apparently cucumbers and squash need a couple of feet between them? Well mine have about 4 inches.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/18 12:34 PM

lmao , you're going to need to pull up some squash. You can put up a trellis for the cukes but you'll still need to thin them to a foot or so apart.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/18 12:36 PM

Originally Posted By: rickym
Originally Posted By: Payne
It's normal, are these the first flowers of the year?

Yes these are the first round of flowers this year. Im use to seeing 1 or 2 female flowers per plant before males, but this year each plant has put on half a dozen females first. What I would do for just 1 male flower right now roflmao



it should even out over the season, just keep an eye out.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/18 12:39 PM

Or you could go by the mingans house and pick up some plants with males........
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/18 02:19 PM

Come em get em. Apparently I went overboard lol.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/18 02:28 PM

just a little roflmao
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/18 02:37 PM

roflmao
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/18 02:51 PM

Idk, I might just roll with it and see this thing through. You can call the wild card if pleases you.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/18 02:58 PM

First time I grew cukes I did the same thing. Had them & pickles coming out of my ears. Picked 5 gallon buckets full every few days. Couldn't give near that many away lol, I lernt.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/18 11:39 PM

Cold temps didn't take any. Another round is coming this weekend eek2

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/18 12:49 AM

looks good, is that your other garden at 11 o'clock?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/18 01:29 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
looks good, is that your other garden at 11 o'clock?


Thats garlic. The other garden is behind where I took that picture.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/18 03:10 PM

It's a beautiful day in my neighborhood. My peppers are starting to set. Looks like I will have a great crop of jalapeos.

Take a peek.




I'd like to have more stalk to support my bell peppers.





Here's a picture of the upper part of my tomatoes. They are now setting fruit all the way to the top.




My 1015Y onions are now baseball size.




Looks as if my yellow squash will be ready by the end of the week.




Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/18 06:58 PM

looking good Bill ... I noticed this past weekend my jalapeno have little bitty peppers, smaller than an English pea
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/18 01:10 PM

Bill, that looks really good. How long ago did you plant the squash?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/18 03:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Cherokee Mingan
Bill, that looks really good. How long ago did you plant the squash?


Not sure. Around 6 weeks ago.
Posted By: Always ready 2 hunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/18 02:25 PM

Looking good OX. I was a little later plant maters, squash and peppers so got a few weeks yet
Posted By: Ders26

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/18 08:06 PM

I regret to inform y'all that my cucumbers are not looking good. I suspect they got too wet. I will probably replant them later this week and cross my fingers.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/18 05:54 PM







Coming along, wind has been whipping them around for a few weeks.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/18 06:08 PM

Looking great.

I would like to make a suggestion though. I am not a professional mannequin designer but I think if you reduced the distance between the head and shirt collar, you would have better scarecrow results.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/18 06:10 PM

Let me guess, you live north of I-10 right?
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/18 09:06 PM

Gardens are looking good ladies.....if I'm still alive next spring i will have a garden.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/18 02:36 PM

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/18 05:46 PM

https://harvesttotable.com/how_to_ripen_tomatoes_on_the_v/


Standard-sized tomatoes take 20 to 30 days from blossom set to reach full sizecommonly called mature green; they take another 20 to 30 days to ripen, that is begin to change color. A tomato can be picked when it begins to change colorfrom green to red, pink, yellow, or orange depending upon the cultivar.Aug 22, 2011
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/18 03:34 PM

I figure if my cucumbers start coming in faster than I can give them away that I might pickle them. I was thinking about using some pickling recipes online that I have found but I also want to spice them up with the reaper peppers that I am growing. Hopefully the peppers come in around the same time. I bet the pickles will be edible if I only put one carolina reaper in there, right?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/18 03:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Cherokee Mingan
I figure if my cucumbers start coming in faster than I can give them away that I might pickle them. I was thinking about using some pickling recipes online that I have found but I also want to spice them up with the reaper peppers that I am growing. Hopefully the peppers come in around the same time. I bet the pickles will be edible if I only put one carolina reaper in there, right?


I used one jalapeno per pint. They came out fine. There is plenty of dill in and around my garden. I still have some hamburger slices in my refrigerator.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/18 04:28 PM

Did you plant the reapers from seed or are they a transplant? If a transplant they could take 2.5-4 months to mature. The cukes should be producing in 1.5-2 months from seed. If you want to pickle the reapers with the cukes you might want to stagger planting some cuke seeds so you can pickle them together.
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/18 07:05 PM

Is it to late to plant cucumbers? The plants that I planted back in late February look sick. Might of got frost bite.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/18 07:15 PM

Nope, just sow the seeds and water them.
Posted By: Ders26

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/18 01:32 PM

I replanted my cucs yesterday since the first batch looked terrible. Hope they produce because I am out of pickles.
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/18 01:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Did you plant the reapers from seed or are they a transplant? If a transplant they could take 2.5-4 months to mature. The cukes should be producing in 1.5-2 months from seed. If you want to pickle the reapers with the cukes you might want to stagger planting some cuke seeds so you can pickle them together.


I was given some beautiful reapers around December so I decided to save the seeds and plant them. I have around 15 reaper plants now about 8 inches tall. Everything looks great in my garden at this point except that I put things a tad to close. I do suspect that the cukes will come before the reapers start producing so I might find a little area to start some new cukes.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/18 01:59 PM

When did the seeds germinate? They should produce 4-5 months later. Peppers grow best with heat, June-Sept.
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/18 02:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
When did the seeds germinate? They should produce 4-5 months later. Peppers grow best with heat, June-Sept.


Probably has been about 2 months now.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/18 02:03 PM

That's a pretty good window to get both producing at the same time. I'd sow some more seeds in a month and a half to be sure. Do you have any seeds left roflmao
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/18 02:17 PM

Nope, lol
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/18 02:21 PM

Pm me your addy and I'll send you some seeds.
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/18 02:27 PM

Awesome, PM sent
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/18 02:39 PM

any idea what's causing the black on the stalk??? Jalapeno plant.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/18 02:51 PM

looks like you're over watering the jap or it might be blight.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/18 03:11 PM

doubt it's over watering since it has only been watered maybe 4 times since we planted it 3 weeks ago ... other than rain, which was only a couple times also.

what is blight and how to address?
Posted By: snake oil

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/18 03:30 PM

Early blight......
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/18 03:32 PM

If it was mine I'd chunk it, it can't get nutrients above that black spot.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/18 03:55 PM

no way to treat? It's got a lot of little bitty jalapeno formed already but they are above that black stuff
Posted By: thomas_z71

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/18 04:02 PM

Gents, gotta flower question assuming I can ask here. Wanting to plant some annuals to liven up home for sale. I'm in Plano. Don't need a bunch, just a few bunches in spots maybe 3'x5' areas. I planted some marigolds a few weeks back(in beds around front trees so they get mostly sun)...it's weird most still have a flower or two on them, but I feel like they haven't grown any taller? Maybe it's bc I see them everyday but it's been at least 2 weeks or so, and yes a few have wilted down to nothing. I sprayed a fungus preventer on them last week and seemed to help with less dieing, but I still feel like something is keeping them from growing like they should. I'm will to try Miracle Gro or something else if you guys suggest it at least to keep everything looking good through late Spring as again trying to sell our home here in Plano. Any help is really apprecaited! Thanks! Thomas
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/18 04:11 PM

PMK you could try some epsom around the plant, I'd move it away from all your other plants since it can spread .

Thomas the weather has been brutal the last few weeks so that could have stunted their growth. They should get back to normal as it warms up. Worse comes to worse you could buy some plants to plant later. Miracle gro would help either way.
Posted By: thomas_z71

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/18 04:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
PMK you could try some epsom around the plant, I'd move it away from all your other plants since it can spread .

Thomas the weather has been brutal the last few weeks so that could have stunted their growth. They should get back to normal as it warms up. Worse comes to worse you could buy some plants to plant later. Miracle gro would help either way.


Thank you makes me feel a little better about it. It should start warming up for good up here so thinking of doing Vincas around the house in front.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/18 04:28 PM

Good luck with the house
Posted By: thomas_z71

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/18 04:34 PM

Thanks! Ya need a whole new "complaints of selling House" thread in here. Man, what a complete beatdown this is, not only selling, but finding one too and somehow someway timing them both at the same time.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/18 04:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
PMK you could try some epsom around the plant, I'd move it away from all your other plants since it can spread .

Thomas the weather has been brutal the last few weeks so that could have stunted their growth. They should get back to normal as it warms up. Worse comes to worse you could buy some plants to plant later. Miracle gro would help either way.

thanks, it's in a tub by itself ... I might give the epsom a try or just start over. What causes that?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/18 05:20 PM

Wind might have snapped the stem slightly and fungus attacked it, there's other things that could of happened mostly having to do with over watering. How much rain have you caught since it was outside?
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/18 07:53 PM

ummmm, maybe an inch total of rain since it was put out 3 weeks ago. It's in a large bucket with drainage holes drilled around the bottom. And my wife always forgets to water it when watering tomatoes & asparagus, why it's only been watered maybe 4 times in 3 weeks beside the rain. The bucket drains pretty well. There was already dirt in the bucket from last year but I added 3-4 inches of new garden soil before planting.

but with that said, we have had ongoing issues with fungus in our St. Augustine for the past 10 or so years that we fight almost every year.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/18 07:59 PM

You should clean your containers every year, I use a watered down bleach solution after every season for annuals.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/18 08:07 PM

never knew that! like remove the soil each year or just use watered down bleach into the soil?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/18 08:14 PM

dump the dirt and clean the container itself. same for the pots or six packs you'd use for seed starting.
Posted By: ChrisG

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/18 08:40 PM

PMK... if it is fungal I would soak some whole ground corn meal in some water for an hour or two and give the plant a good foliar feed and soil drench.

Check out what the Dirt doctor has to say about it

https://www.dirtdoctor.com/garden/Cornmeal-Juice_vq395.htm
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/18 10:51 PM

I pulled first bulbing green onion today.



I wanted to make up this dish.



That's all folks. You will have to click to the recipes forum to see the rest of the story.
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/18 04:26 PM

That looks awesome Bill
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/18 03:01 PM

This is what I was writing about when I wrote first blush.



I took a couple of squash pictures for a friend on the recipe forum. He made a squash casserole with store bought.





I could put a bell pepper and a purple onion in there.


Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/18 03:04 PM

Nice looking veggies Bill.
Posted By: ChrisG

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/18 05:51 PM

How long till that tomato is ready to eat?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/18 06:00 PM

Originally Posted By: ChrisG
How long till that tomato is ready to eat?


Three to four days. I plan to make a fresh garden salad with iceberg lettuce Sunday.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/18 07:13 PM



Might get some olives this year





Planted it five years ago.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/18 08:35 PM

That's awesome Payne
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/18 09:44 PM

Thanks, here's the big Turkey fig



and the small Turkey fig plus the four Santa Rosa's I planted last year.

Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/18 10:35 PM

What's a turkey fig?


You need to start a huge Vinyard with all that space......not kidding
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/18 10:40 PM

Bill, how long will you leave the onions in the ground before you pull them up? Mine are about the same size.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/18 10:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Wilhunt
Bill, how long will you leave the onions in the ground before you pull them up? Mine are about the same size.


I take the water off them when the tops fall over. It really depends on the rain from there. They seem to do better in the ground than in the kitchen.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/18 11:00 PM

Originally Posted By: takewhatyoucan64
What's a turkey fig?



http://www.specialtyproduce.com/produce/Brown_Turkey_Figs_6572.php


Originally Posted By: takewhatyoucan64
You need to start a huge Vinyard with all that space......not kidding


There's three vineyards in my area. I have some vines for grapes and thats about all I want to do with them.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/18 02:42 AM

Growth. Most of the cucumbers failed. Bummer.





Two out of five cantaloupes made it. Just need two anyway.



First watermelon to survive a transplant.



Volunteer tomato of some sort showed up.


Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/18 06:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Thanks, here's the big Turkey fig



and the small Turkey fig plus the four Santa Rosa's I planted last year.





Your grass looks fantastic.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/18 10:18 PM

Thanks, it doubles as a chipping/pitching range
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/18 02:33 PM




My squash and zucchini are finally in. I'll be flagging people down to give them away by next week. I only planted one hill of each. I wasn't sure if my orange bell peppers survived. One finally showed me.

That's all for now. The a peak at the recipes forum after dinner tonight and I will show you a stir fry squash dish that will knock your socks of. It's called twice cooked pork.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/18 03:17 PM

Looks wonderful Bill, I've only gotten two squash so far. The sunflowers are mammoth.


Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/18 03:44 PM

offtopic

You plan to hunt dove over them?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/18 03:56 PM

Seeds and the green beans can grow up the stems.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/18 11:20 PM

I promised this. You can do just as well stir flying your vegetables and adding your favorite salsa.

http://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/7153745/Twice_cooked_pork#Post7153745
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/18 04:14 AM

Hey Bill, how does FLYING veggies work? I get the salsa.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/18 12:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Dalee7892
Hey Bill, how does FLYING veggies work? I get the salsa.


Same as sauting except hotter. You stir fry it in a couple tablespoons of hot oil until it wilts, then add the salsa for a minute or two.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/18 05:36 PM






First trespasser of the year

Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/18 09:07 PM

Starting to get a little warmer up here for veggies to start.




Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/18 09:12 PM

Some more


Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/18 01:23 AM

Dalee your garden looks great.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/18 02:04 PM

Today's haul.



Later guys. I need to get over to the recipes forum for more squash recipes.
Posted By: Cast

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/18 02:06 PM

up
Posted By: Wytex

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/18 09:25 PM

Maybe in a month we'll get outside.
We've got 3-5 inches of snow possible for tonight. About 9 different varieties of chiles, trinidad moruga scorpion and some heirloom NM chiles from seed.



Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/18 09:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Wytex

We've got 3-5 inches of snow possible for tonight.


eeks333


Nice setup. How long is your growing season?
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/18 12:20 AM

Snow? Frankie didn't say nothing about no snow..

Loc: Wyoming hammer
Posted By: Wytex

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/18 01:40 PM

Well the snow didn't materialize in Laramie but we're sitting at 34 right now. Cheyenne is snowed in and Colorado mountains are getting great moisture.
We have from June til about Sept for a growing season. Makes growing some things a little tough.
We usually get a heavy, wet, deep snow in early June, you can count on it most every year.
Makes our hop harvest kind of hectic in Sept.

On another note, the antelope bucks are looking good this spring, lots of good prongs and some decent growth yet til July. This will be a good year to have a tag. Application deadline is May 31.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/18 02:32 PM

My plumb tree 3 years later is doing well and finally producing. There was a time I thought we were going to use it in the smoker... but she pulled through. Planted in 2015, then the leaves turned yellow to red, then all fell off by early summer...


Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/18 02:32 PM

That's a short season, good luck.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/18 02:33 PM

Nice plum tree, what kind?
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/18 02:37 PM

The rest of the garden is quickly coming on.. potatoes are looking great, tomatoes are just beginning to bloom, okra just came up this week..




Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/18 02:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Nice plum tree, what kind?


Lol, you asked me the same thing back in 2015, but I really dont know.. just know its self pollinating.. guess well find out soon.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/18 02:38 PM

Looks great
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/18 02:40 PM

Ah didn't remember, par for the course
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/18 03:27 PM

we planted a plum tree a couple years ago as well, looks similar in size as yours. Last year it only had 2-3 plums total that fell off before they got ripe. This year, it has several dozen that are bigger than a marble. Keeping fingers crossed they last until ripe.

I am having to remove some of the peaches from our peach tree it is so loaded with some already starting to show a bit of blush.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/18 03:44 PM

I use these for my trees.

https://www.amazon.com/Jobes-Fertilizer-9-12-12-Release-Package/dp/B000A0YHHM

https://www.amazon.com/Miracle-Gro-Ferti...p;creative=9325
Posted By: Wytex

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/18 03:52 PM

Nice Stevarino, my raised beds are 3x12 and 4x6.
I tried okra one year, it got about 10 inches tall and 3 pods. I just go down to the farmers market on Fridays now and buy Colorado grown okra.

Plum looks nice this year. Perhaps it just took a couple of years for the roots to get established. It should start putting on height now.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/18 04:39 PM

I didnt have any plumbs last year, but adjusted the ph, did some serious trimming in the winter, and have been throwing coffee grounds on it.. theres probably 50 from what I can count and all about the size of a big grape...
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/18 04:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Wytex
Nice Stevarino, my raised beds are 3x12 and 4x6.
I tried okra one year, it got about 10 inches tall and 3 pods. I just go down to the farmers market on Fridays now and buy Colorado grown okra.


Okra and potatoes are probably the easiest to grow down here in my area. Those okra plants typically get up around 6ft.. once it turns warm, they just take off and well be picking twice a day around late June into July.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/18 04:34 PM















Peahen was not happy, saved the egg & relocated the rat snake.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/18 04:54 PM

Looking good.. do you remove that black netting after season? Ive seen/read mixed reviews.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/18 05:58 PM

It's weed barrier fabric, it's pretty much useless after I cut the squares where I plant. I leave it on through the summer to burn any weed seeds then pull it up to plant the winter garden. I used to be able to buy it for 35$ for 200' x 4' at Sam's. Now I have to get it from HD or Lowes and it cost more there. I was hoing 20 hours a week now it's weed free. I have a 32 oz spray bottle that I mix up gly in then get a couple inches from the surface to spray the border around the garden.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/18 06:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne





Peahen was not happy, saved the egg & relocated the rat snake.


How do you come up with the great stuff you post on this forum? Getting any rain?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/18 06:01 PM

Love them birds. It's been drizzling for a couple of hours. Suppose to catch the storm that passed through San Antonio between 1-2pm.
Posted By: General Guts

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/18 07:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
It's weed barrier fabric, it's pretty much useless after I cut the squares where I plant. I leave it on through the summer to burn any weed seeds then pull it up to plant the winter garden. I used to be able to buy it for 35$ for 200' x 4' at Sam's. Now I have to get it from HD or Lowes and it cost more there. I was hoing 20 hours a week now it's weed free. I have a 32 oz spray bottle that I mix up gly in then get a couple inches from the surface to spray the border around the garden.


When did you plant? ... I've just started.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/18 11:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Love them birds. It's been drizzling for a couple of hours. Suppose to catch the storm that passed through San Antonio between 1-2pm.


Only a few sprinkles for me. More on the way. Maybe.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/18 02:18 PM

Looks as if start giving my tomatoes away this week. These are from my Bonnie variety. They didn't get quite as large as I hoped for.



I'm loaded with squirrels in my yard. I didn't lose a single tomato to them.

I pulled the onion for my tuna salad. You'll have to join me on the recipes forum for that.
Posted By: Cast

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/18 03:47 PM

If it wasnt over an hour to your place from here, Id park my truck in your driveway Bill, with the windows down and doors unlocked. You could load it up.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/18 02:17 AM

Got them caged today.


Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/18 02:17 PM

Why the sack you may ask.



Take a peek.


Come and get them.
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/18 03:19 PM

Got a question? My squash seems to have stop growing. They started having fruit grew to about 2 inches stopped then just fell off vine. Have New blooms.
What do I need to do? Planted back in first of March.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/18 03:43 PM

lack of pollination most likely

Have you seen any bees around? If not you can put a humming bird feeder in your garden, they'll find it and help you out. Just use sugar water instead hummingbird food. You can also put sugar water in a spray bottle and spray it on the foliage.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/18 04:09 PM

Do you use sevin dust?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/18 04:34 PM

My squash and zucchini are loaded and I used sevin dust down around the roots where I've seen the borer holes in the past. I also relocated them to a different part of my garden. It took them awhile to start producing. I have now frozen some in marinara sauce. I'm now giving them away.

https://www.growveg.com/guides/pollination-for-vegetable-gardens/
Self-pollinators (such as tomatoes and peas) have both male and female parts on the same flower. Wind or insects dislodge the pollen, which leads to fertilization within the flower. Some vegetable plants produce a separate male and female flower - pumpkins, squash and cucumbers for instance.Nov 5, 2010

My cucumbers are just now setting fruit.
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/18 04:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Dalee7892
Got a question? My squash seems to have stop growing. They started having fruit grew to about 2 inches stopped then just fell off vine. Have New blooms.
What do I need to do? Planted back in first of March.


I am having the exact same problem with my squash and planted the same time as you and I have new blooms too. They grow 2 inches and then fall off.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/18 04:48 PM

I know you use the devils powder, I was asking Dalee.
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/18 05:19 PM

No seven dust used.
My peas, beans and tomatoes are doing great.
Do I need to remove the small fruit On the squash?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/18 05:23 PM

Have you seen any bees?
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/18 06:06 PM

Have bees.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/18 06:08 PM

The other things that could cause that is not enough water or crappy soil.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/18 06:15 PM

Mine have always done that before producing. They should start soon.
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/18 06:52 PM

I water every other day. The soil is all compost mix.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/18 06:56 PM

Did you have a bunch of male flowers early on? Do you have male flowers now?
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/18 07:02 PM




Here are photos of plants and fruit.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/18 07:04 PM

Those look good, sounds like you have every thing covered.
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/18 07:17 PM

The thing is the fruit doesn't seem to be growing. They get about so big and rot off at stem. Did I plant to early and then the COLD weather in March cause this?
It seems that the cucumbers are just now starting to flower, planted the same time. First of March.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/18 07:35 PM

Probably the cold weather we had last month, unless they have blossom end rot. Take a pick of one that falls off next time.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/18 01:21 AM

Originally Posted By: Dalee7892
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Here are photos of plants and fruit.


Looks to me as if the three in the middle will mature within a couple of days.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/18 02:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
I know you use the devils powder, I was asking Dalee.


Look what the devils powder on the plants stem near the ground did to my blooms. There are bees there every day.



My cucumbers are now starting to mature. Plan to put one in my next garden salad. I planted these from seed.




I put in 4 jalapeo plants. Should have limited it to a couple. They are loaded.



I have several 1015 Y onions like this. They will weigh over a pound.


Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/18 02:53 PM

Enjoy your carbaryl salad bill food
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/18 03:23 PM

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/18 11:11 PM

This all came from my garden except the lettuce. I've given lettuce a try several times over the years. It came out mostly bitter.


Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/18 06:39 PM




Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/18 08:33 PM

Black berries in front yard, pick again tomorrow.
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/18 08:39 PM

Picken string beans still coming a day or so.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/18 08:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Dalee7892
Picken string beans still coming a day or so.



Did your squash start maturing?
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/18 10:18 PM

Still have some falling off. Got 2 that are just about ready to pick. Thanks.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/18 10:52 PM

looks good Dalee
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/18 12:32 PM

Two week progression. Not picking much but a few squash and zucchini. Potatoes are probably two weeks out.. my tomato plants look real healthy but not seeing many blooms yet. Corn and okra are taking off..

May 3.


Today after a little rain last night.



Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/18 01:26 PM

Garden looks good, nice dog too
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/18 01:35 PM

Thanks.. shes retired from fetching ducks and now on rat and rabbit patrol..been a great family dog but her days are numbered as her back is giving out.

You see I picked up a hummingbird feeder? I need bees! Well see how this goes.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/18 01:57 PM

I noticed the feeder. Once they find it they won't leave, you'll end up refilling it constantly.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/18 02:19 PM

Nice
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/18 03:02 PM

Looks good
Posted By: janie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/18 03:11 PM

I am way late to this party, but y'all have some beautiful gardens. We kept it small, but at least it's growing. 2 tomato plants. Squash in the homer bucket. Cabbage and onions. Caterpillar's are destroying the cabbage. Sprinkled some DE on it last night. We'll see.....



Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/18 03:15 PM








Found some hornworm scat, couldn't find him anywhere hopefully a bird got him. Tomatoes are a week out, eggplants are just now blooming. all in all it's coming along nicely.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/18 03:30 PM

looks good Janie
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/18 12:06 AM

This dish came from a frozen sauce that I made when my tomatoes were in last year.

Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/18 12:45 PM

I planted this garden with no expectations at all. I did it only for my youngest daughter and I to have a project together.


Squash, cukes, carrots, black eye peas, bell peppers and onions


Marigolds and hot peppers


Squash starting to recover


Cherry bomb peppers coming in


Black eye peas on left and carrots on right
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/18 01:29 PM

First garden? Looks real nice.
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/18 01:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
First garden? Looks real nice.


Yes, this is my first garden. Is it that noticeable?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/18 01:54 PM

nope, it is impressive for a first time garden.
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/18 02:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
nope, it is impressive for a first time garden.


Thanks, I appreciate it. I find myself getting attached to this garden for some reason.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/18 02:27 PM

It's the gather part of the hunter/gather instinct
Posted By: Stub

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/18 02:54 PM

Wow looks good everyone up

I built a good size garden in the easement behind my house, went and bought great dirt, had landscape timbers, rebar going up 5' with netting all around and above, yet the Mockingbirds, squirrels and rats ate almost all of it. What was especially irritating were our state bird (Mockingbird) would peck about a quarter size hole in every tomato that was about to ripen bang

So I did a 180 and turned it into a Cactus Garden. These pic are from this morning.




Blooming in 2014

Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/18 03:06 PM

Good Stub, that looks great.
Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/18 02:32 PM

A Mockingbird is a PITA. I've got mine netted off this year and seems to be working.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/18 03:25 PM

Originally Posted By: greenen
A Mockingbird is a PITA. I've got mine netted off this year and seems to be working.


Scarecrows work.
Posted By: Stub

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/18 03:53 PM

Originally Posted By: greenen
A Mockingbird is a PITA. I've got mine netted off this year and seems to be working.


I had mine netted also and watched the Mockingbird stick its beak under the netting lift it up and pigged out on the veggies bang
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/18 04:19 PM

The weenie dogs don't take kindly to intruders round here....
Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/18 05:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Stub
Originally Posted By: greenen
A Mockingbird is a PITA. I've got mine netted off this year and seems to be working.


I had mine netted also and watched the Mockingbird stick its beak under the netting lift it up and pigged out on the veggies bang


Me too. I stapled the netting down on the bottom this year which has kept them out while the tomatoes are ripening but a pain to pinch off the suckers, etc.
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/18 08:46 PM

Pretty good harvest today


Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/18 06:06 PM

Real nice Dalee7892. You're harvesting most up here.

First squash.


Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/18 08:01 PM

Planted end February first of March. Cucumbers got a little slow due to COLD snap even covered everything with blankets. Seems to be doing better. Squash had quite a few fruit that didn't mature and fell off, still have some good blooms and fruit coming. Peas are done stalks turning. Tomatoes are loaded just not ripe yet.
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/18 09:09 PM

Pulled it all up today third year in a row everything caught some brown looking fungus only the pepper plants survived.

New dirt went to Air pots this year and like always only the bell peppers thrive.

You know what they say if You Can't Grow Tomatoes You Can't Grow....... cool2
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/18 09:19 PM

My cucumbers are really slow this year. I finally started getting celebrity tomatoes. I don't plan to ever get the Bonnie verity again. The size didn't suit me. I've run out of neighbors to give my squash and zucchini to. I may take them down. They are still producing. My onions have started to lose their tops. This is the forst year that i did not have a single onion that produced a seed top. Some are softball size. I've given a few of them away. I had a volunteer tomato that I transplanted that is now setting tomatoes. Looks as if I will have some late tomatoes if the stink Bugs don't find them.
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/18 09:59 PM

I don't know about my tomato's either. I have some that were supposed to be the patio tomato which I am thinking should be a large tomato. Then I have others that are supposed to be celebrity. The patio seems to be a short but strong plant and is producing regular size tomato. The celebrity is a regular size tomato and is producing . Have very few blooms on the celebrity...looks like a early girl plant. My point is I think the I.D. tags are incorrect on what we buy.
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/18 10:01 PM

Bill, what do you use for the stink bugs - seven dust?
I have put coffee grounds around the plantings, read that tomatoes and squash likes this.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/18 11:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Dalee7892
Bill, what do you use for the stink bugs - seven dust?
I have put coffee grounds around the plantings, read that tomatoes and squash likes this.


I've never had much success fighting stink bugs.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/18 11:53 PM

Dug the potatoes up tonight. The kids really enjoy finding these.. really some of the better ones weve grown.. and so easy too.




Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/18 12:01 AM

Looks great...how many plants did you put out?
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/18 12:37 AM

Originally Posted By: Wilhunt
Looks great...how many plants did you put out?

I did 15 plants this year using whole potatoes.. came up with 112 keepers.. highest yield per plant Ive ever had..
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/18 12:44 AM

Those potatoes look great. The children from across the road loved to help me last year. I didn't plant them this year.

You can cook the new potatoes without pealing them. Pan fried potatoes are great.

Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/18 12:52 AM

Those look fantastic, potatoes.
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/18 12:17 PM

Those red potatoes look really good. I will have to remember to try that next year. How long did they take you?
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/18 12:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Cherokee Mingan
Those red potatoes look really good. I will have to remember to try that next year. How long did they take you?


I try to plant mid to end of February.. I think the recommended cut off is st Patricks Day up here.. so youre looking about 90-120 days to harvest..
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/18 01:25 PM

I made my daughter work and weed the garden with me on Saturday. We didn't quit until it was finished and she complained several times that she was tired and wanted to quit but I wouldn't let her. Do you think I was being to tough on her? She is only in kindergarten.

If I didn't get her out there then she would have been watching ipad or cartoons. I figured this is her garden too and she needs to help keep it up, learn a few things and hopefully create some positive memories.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/18 04:07 PM

good for you Cherokee Mingan, I have some very fond memories working in my parents and both of my grandmother's gardens as far back as I can remember. They were slave drivers (or so it seemed at the time) on weeding, watering, harvesting but I truly enjoyed the bountiful goods that came from some hard work.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/18 12:44 AM

A personal best sunflower in the making. Real pretty in person.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/18 01:00 AM

mammoth?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/18 01:07 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
mammoth?


No sir. Mammoths have been extinct for thousands of years.

This is just a large sunflower.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/18 01:11 AM

disappointment for lack of a better word
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/18 01:38 AM

I dont know what kind it is. I know they come up on their own and it towers over anything seen in the dove fields.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/18 02:35 PM

If my vegetables sold by the pound. This is 4 onions.



Let's add a couple of tomatoes. I'm not good at math. I may need a little help here.


Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/18 04:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Chickenman
I dont know what kind it is. I know they come up on their own and it towers over anything seen in the dove fields.



It's an exhibition not a competition Senor Pollo




Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/18 05:50 PM

Those are some fine looking cukes you got there. Wish I had some of your seeds to grow me some.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/18 06:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Cherokee Mingan
Those are some fine looking cukes you got there. Wish I had some of your seeds to grow me some.


I concur.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/18 06:10 PM

I sent them twice, you're under some government watch list. Jmo
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/18 06:46 PM

Nice work. Scarecrow is a little shaky though.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/18 07:46 PM

If it bothers you that much you should send me a couple of full size mannequins
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/18 09:43 PM

Some flowers



Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/18 12:27 AM

Zucchini and squash are turning on..

Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/18 12:41 AM

Still waiting for my tomatars to rippen. Wife tells me to be patient. Got some cuccs about 1" long, squash is slow.
Water every day.
Anything to help the tomatars?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/18 12:45 AM

Originally Posted By: Dalee7892
Still waiting for my tomatars to rippen. Wife tells me to be patient. Got some cuccs about 1" long, squash is slow.
Water every day.
Anything to help the tomatars?


Pick the tomatoes at first blush. Set them if full light but not in the sun.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/18 12:50 AM

Originally Posted By: Dalee7892
Still waiting for my tomatars to rippen. Wife tells me to be patient. Got some cuccs about 1" long, squash is slow.
Water every day.
Anything to help the tomatars?


Ive always fed mine the fertilizer below, but Ill add that I did a soil sample
This year before planting and added some other things based on those results to my soil.. best garden Ive had so far and I credit it mostly to getting the levels right in my soil..


Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/18 03:52 AM

No blush still all green. I have put Miracle Grow in the soil.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/18 12:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Dalee7892
No blush still all green. I have put Miracle Grow in the soil.


Time stands still at that stage.
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/18 12:52 PM

Daughter got to pick her first veggie ever from her first garden yesterday.

Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/18 01:04 PM

Very nice.. fruits of their labor help keep them involved..
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/18 02:40 PM

tomatoes are starting to ripen

Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/18 03:12 PM

Nice looking veggies
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/18 05:36 PM

You guys need to write this down for when your tomatoes come in.


Originally Posted By: bill oxner
With a slice of home grown tomato that covers the entire sandwich.

I use lightly toasted white bread because I don't want anything to interfere with the taste of my bacon.

What bacon, you may ask. It's done in seconds and great on sandwiches. Don't take my word for it. Take a peek.


Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/18 11:44 PM

Or cure and smoke your own bacon. Incredible.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/18 11:58 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner




Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/18 03:35 PM

Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/18 03:41 PM

Looking good. I have eaten 4-5 tomatoes and a few cayenne peppers and one bell. maters are fixin to bust loose. My japs are going slow and cukes too but they are coming along.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/18 03:49 PM

I hear ya, have a few hundred celebritys just waiting to ripen then it's salsa time. banana2
Posted By: janie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/18 05:08 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
maters are fixin to bust loose.



Ours have literally exploded. We've never had this many tomato's, and we only put 2 plants in our garden. Our squash is coming along. Cabbage.....I dunno

Caterpillars did a number on it. Spread DE which helped. Fingers crossed.

Our onions are doing exceptionally well.

Some great looking gardens y'all. up
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/18 06:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne


Nice! The purple bells hollands, sweets, or purples?

Where is the picnic tablecloth?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/18 06:59 PM

Purple Belle

picnic pics when I fill up three or more baskets

Thanks for asking taking a peek..
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/18 07:45 PM

Looking real good. We harvested some more squash this weekend and cooked em. Sliced em, put in egg then bread crumbs and baked em. Topped with parm. It was delish.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/18 12:40 AM

PSA on salsa. This is new to me. I have found that you will get a much better texture if you chop your peppers and put them in there just before you process them The acid in the tomatoes will pickle them.

Also a jar of minced onions at the end will add to your texture and flavor.

Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/18 01:10 AM

2 squash and 2 tomatoes is all its produced so far.

Cantaloupe (in the back not shown) is taking off. I was worried because I transplanted it on the top of a slope that really has be watered/watched.

Watermelons and squash have been sown again.

1 of 12 h19 cucmbers is doing well. The rest died or are real small.

Able to grow champion weeds and grass again which was expected.



Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/18 05:02 AM

This heat is hurting mine, water real well before Sun goes down. Tomatars are slow turning, squash some, peas are done, beans okay.
Heat still coming.
I do mist the plants real good.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/01/18 03:41 PM

Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/01/18 04:36 PM

up
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/01/18 05:52 PM

Looking good Payne. Youre ahead of me on tomatoes but shouldnt be long. Those bells look great.
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/01/18 07:15 PM

Nice harvest and you are looking a little pale sitting there
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/01/18 08:06 PM

Looks like ya about to eat. Nice spread..
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/01/18 10:45 PM

Tomato's going great, will start canning some tomorrow. Patio and celebrity have done well. Potato's and onions all in. Been a good year so far. Sweet banana and jalapeno peppers coming along.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/02/18 10:05 PM

I have had hell with mice and rats since November. I'll trapped/killed about 45. Its slowed down a lot for sure but one remains...

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/02/18 10:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Chickenman
I have had hell with mice and rats since November. I'll trapped/killed about 45. Its slowed down a lot for sure but one remains...




Dang. I haven't lost a half dozen of anything this year. Maybe you need to pick them at first blush.
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/18 01:18 AM

Need some help with my squash. They're putting on fruit and all looks normal, then the fruit just shrivels up and falls off. I'm watering in the mornings.

Am I watering wrong? Missing a nutrient?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/18 01:28 AM

do you see female flowers and pollinators?
Posted By: Judd

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/18 03:22 PM

What can I spray my tomato plants and pepper plants with that won't have a negative effect on the bees like Seven does? Someone mentioned pyrethrin...anyone used it? There is a little red mite looking bug on them that is turning the leaves yellowish and putting holes in the leaves and I had some ants on one of the tomato plants last nite and looked like they were getting a free meal off my first tomato of the year.

Yes, I got a late start...we didn't get this house until the 18th of May.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/18 03:31 PM

Spinosad, BT for hornworms.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/18 03:33 PM





Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/18 03:36 PM

Payne, that is a beautiful harvest.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/18 03:38 PM

Thanks
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/18 04:00 PM

Very nice Payne. I've pulled about 15 big maters so far only one bell, several Cayenne's and a few japs.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/18 08:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Thanks


You can cook a couple of yellow squash, some chopped eggplant with some spaghetti sauce and your links. It's great over pasta. I call it marinara premavera. That's what I'm having for dinner tonight with a fresh garden salad, and garlic toast.



That's a picture from my file. It does not include the salad.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/18 02:20 AM

Posted By: Always ready 2 hunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/18 08:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Cow_doc.308
Need some help with my squash. They're putting on fruit and all looks normal, then the fruit just shrivels up and falls off. I'm watering in the mornings.

Am I watering wrong? Missing a nutrient?


I have same issue with squash. put on fruit and grows 2-3 inches and then shrivels up and falls off. Plants are doing better

with more small fruits appearing daily. I was watering am and pm. maybe overwatered?
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/18 08:07 PM

I had A Lot of new growth (female) got a few nice ones. Now it seems all male flowers. Got me guessing.
Posted By: Always ready 2 hunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/18 08:28 PM

1st harvest (cottontails been getting my low hangin maters and bells)so will be adding some fencing this evening.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/18 09:35 PM

Nice harvest, I wouldn't water at night it promotes diseases.
Posted By: Always ready 2 hunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/18 11:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Nice harvest, I wouldn't water at night it promotes diseases.


Thanks,
Remind me how to tell difference in male v female yellow squash flowers.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/18 12:49 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Check where the flower meets the stem, the female will have a little bulb


Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/18 03:03 PM

What ratio are you wanting on your squash?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/18 03:39 PM




Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/18 08:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Originally Posted By: Payne
Check where the flower meets the stem, the female will have a little bulb




I got the same pictures on google. They look the same to me. I get my squash from the open blooms. Like this. Look at the difference.


Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/18 10:54 PM

At least gettin some tomatars

Getting some good rain.
Posted By: Jon

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/18 07:48 AM

Originally Posted By: Stevarino
Originally Posted By: Dalee7892
Still waiting for my tomatars to rippen. Wife tells me to be patient. Got some cuccs about 1" long, squash is slow.
Water every day.
Anything to help the tomatars?


Ive always fed mine the fertilizer below, but Ill add that I did a soil sample
This year before planting and added some other things based on those results to my soil.. best garden Ive had so far and I credit it mostly to getting the levels right in my soil..




What did you use to get your soil sample tested?
My first time to do a garden in over 30 years and not going very well.
Id like to do a soil test and see what might be needing adjustment if any.
Thanks.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/18 12:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Jon
Originally Posted By: Stevarino
Originally Posted By: Dalee7892
Still waiting for my tomatars to rippen. Wife tells me to be patient. Got some cuccs about 1" long, squash is slow.
Water every day.
Anything to help the tomatars?


Ive always fed mine the fertilizer below, but Ill add that I did a soil sample
This year before planting and added some other things based on those results to my soil.. best garden Ive had so far and I credit it mostly to getting the levels right in my soil..




What did you use to get your soil sample tested?
My first time to do a garden in over 30 years and not going very well.
Id like to do a soil test and see what might be needing adjustment if any.
Thanks.


I bought a kit based on another recommendation here from Harris Seed company.
https://www.harrisseeds.com/products/40478-professional-soil-test-kit-medium

Easy to use. I found my pH was too high, low in potassium and nitrogen. This was after several loads of what was considered garden soil.. contents werent as good as they appeared..
Posted By: Jon

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/18 05:15 PM

Thanks Stevarino.
Im gonna get one of those and test mine.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/18 11:45 PM

Mine is about done. I cut way back this year. It was a good year. I'll stick with Celbrety tomatoes from now on. I like big tomatoes. My onions were the best I've ever had. I took the dripper off of them. They are still in the ground. Bell peppers did fine. My cucumbers were slow, but then again. Tired of making pickles. Think I will skip my fall garden and just tend my volunteer cilantro.
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/18 12:40 PM

My cukes still haven't taken off yet. The plants are big and look healthy but no fruit.
Posted By: Always ready 2 hunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/18 03:23 PM

I started late. Tomato still going, squash slow and just now coming on, water melon spreading, japs and bells doing fine. Rabbits got to my okra but starting to leaf out again
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/18 07:11 PM

Still going strong down here. Squash & cucumbers are starting to slow down, tomatoes, peppers & eggplant are steady.




Some love it when I have not up to spec veggies






I chunked 20-30 tomatoes over the fence and they were gone before I finished picking.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/18 07:32 PM

clap
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/18 07:35 PM

My offer still stands, say the word and Ill ship tomorrow
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/18 07:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
My offer still stands, say the word and Ill ship tomorrow


Thank you Sir, but I won't be home for a while yet. cheers
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/18 07:42 PM

Let me know, next day shipping guarantee
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/18 07:54 PM

Thank you.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/18 01:24 PM


Looking great Payne..

Tomatoes are just beginning to pop up here. Started picking about a week ago.. had to thin my squash and zucchini plants out this weekend as we cant keep up and havent located enough recipients. Cucumber is steady along with peppers. Started picking okra on Sunday..
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/18 01:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Stevarino

Looking great Payne..

Tomatoes are just beginning to pop up here. Started picking about a week ago.. had to thin my squash and zucchini plants out this weekend as we cant keep up and havent located enough recipients. Cucumber is steady along with peppers. Started picking okra on Sunday..


Oh, and the rats took out 90% of my corn in the last two night but fortunately havent touched anything else
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/18 01:29 PM

Look at those planks CC posted a few pages back, they work really well.
Posted By: sig226fan (Rguns.com)

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/18 01:34 PM

We're getting a half bushel of tomatoes every other day, yellow squash out the wazoo, pintos running good, blue lakes are about ready, corn needs a couple of weeks but is looking as good as we have ever had; cucumbers are not making yet, okra just starting to put pods on, cantaloupe
are softball sized and green, needs a couple of weeks.

Stinking crabgrass and bermuda in the garden are killing me and my back. About to try some very selective Round-up application...

I used to have a PVC pipe with a sponge on one end, may have to look for that, a poor mans rope wick
Posted By: cabosandinh

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/18 10:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne








that's a bountiful harvest you have there

I am working on mine, but it'll be in a 40 ft container green house
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/18 11:05 PM

Hydroponics?
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/18 01:00 AM

Made a pretty good haul tonight.
Posted By: cabosandinh

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/18 01:08 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Hydroponics?


yes, with aquaculture mixed in

tilapia in water tanks, water pumped to plants, water drain back to tilapia tank

That's the plan
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/18 01:11 AM

Nice Dalee

Post pics or do your own thread for the container setup cabosandinh. That's going to be interesting.
Posted By: cabosandinh

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/18 02:12 AM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Nice Dalee

Post pics or do your own thread for the container setup cabosandinh. That's going to be interesting.


I will, as soon as everything's in place
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/18 12:06 PM

Thanks
Posted By: mreed

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/18 09:10 PM

Does anyone know what kind of weed this is?


Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/18 09:20 PM

looks like horseweed
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/17/18 02:13 PM

I've been just pulling my onions as needed and giving some away. I divided to pull a few up and put them in my vegetable crisper with the impending rains.

Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/18 01:20 AM

Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/18 02:56 AM

This may have been already covered in the 179 pages, but does anyone grow asparagus? How did you set up your bed? My wife is really wanting to grow some.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/18 05:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Cow_doc.308
This may have been already covered in the 179 pages, but does anyone grow asparagus? How did you set up your bed? My wife is really wanting to grow some.

I used an old oblong water trough (2' wide x 6' long x 2' deep), drilled holes in the bottom for drainage, filled to about 6" from full with good composted garden soil and bought mature asparagus crowns from a local nursery. They had two different varieties, one thicker and one really thin ... I would not plant the thin variety again. During harvesting season, we get 6-12 spears every other day.

I used the below link when we were planting ours.

TAMU growing asparagus
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/18 06:23 PM

I have some in a bed and they are evevrywhere. Last year I planted some Jersey Knights in a couple of those half molasses tubs. They are doing well and should be more manageable then the bed.



Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/18 07:01 PM


Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/18 07:20 PM

very nice CC
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/18 08:52 PM

Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN





You have excellent taste in canisters and your microwave.



Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/18 12:05 PM

Done with squash and zucchini up here but the tomatoes and okra are pouring in. Heres last nights pick. Dont ask me the type, I just know I have three types of tomato plants....small, medium, and large.... grin

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/18 12:06 PM

roflmao cmon man, I want know what the left ones are..
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/18 12:21 PM

Honestly, I dont know.. theyre big though...
Some type of heirloom??

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/18 12:31 PM

or a hybrid.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/18 01:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Stevarino
Honestly, I dont know.. theyre big though...
Some type of heirloom??



That's what I would like to have. I don't mind if they are cat faced.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/18 04:54 PM

The end is near, got way too hot way too early down here. Usually make it to the Fourth of July.


for me




for the chickens





peppers & eggplant should be good for a few more weeks plus the occasional tomato. I pulled all the squash and a third of the tomato plants up today.
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/18 05:50 PM

Looks great Payne. Wish I had some homegrown eggplant for a rigatoni recipe I am doing tonight. My squash and cukes are done I think, well never really started. Peppers are another story, they are going strong. Sorry for poor quality I got the pics on the fly this morning.





Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/18 05:52 PM

Did you by any chance notice my improvised engineered watering station in first picture?

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/18 08:29 PM

it's ingenious but you'd be better off watering the base. Garden looks great.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/18 08:58 PM

I like the drip. It only puts water at the root of the plant. The middles stay dry.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/18 06:01 PM























Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/18 06:08 PM

Daaannnnnnnggggggg.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/18 06:09 PM

what can I say, I like bread & butter pickles grin
Posted By: Ders26

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/18 06:14 PM

Those pickles look real nice. I have never made bread and butter pickles. I stick with the dill. I make whole hamburger, sliced, and spears using my great grandmothers recipe.
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/18 07:02 PM

That looks great.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/18 08:25 PM

Greatness. Did you put them in ahoy bath or simply pour hot brine over them?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/18 08:32 PM

Just the brine, all the tops popped within an hour
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/18 08:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Just the brine, all the tops popped within an hour


I love to hear them pop.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/01/18 02:43 PM

I tilled mine up this morning.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/02/18 07:46 PM





Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/04/18 11:01 PM

My neighbor's watermelon.


Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/04/18 11:40 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
My neighbor's watermelon.






kinda turns me on wtf
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/05/18 11:19 PM

I have another neighbor who has a least a half dozen growing in his burn pile.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/18 07:53 PM

Round 1

Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/18 08:09 PM

Our Figs are still green, haven't started to turn yet.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/10/18 04:24 PM




Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/10/18 06:21 PM

http://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/forums/20/1/Recipes_&_Cooking_-_Cleani
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/17/18 02:02 PM

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I tilled mine up this morning.


I lied a little. I left two cucumber hills. They are doing great with the best salad cucumbers I've ever had.

Posted By: B-radder

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/21/18 02:44 AM

Payne, iv been watching your garden for awhile, you grow some nice looking stuff . Are you under shade cloth right now?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/21/18 03:08 AM

I'm not, the peppers & eggplant are thriving. I meant to cut the tomato stock for a winter harvest but may have timed it wrong.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/21/18 12:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
I'm not, the peppers & eggplant are thriving. I meant to cut the tomato stock for a winter harvest but may have timed it wrong.


I've seen eggplant make great comebacks and really start producing in the fall.
Posted By: Cherokee Mingan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/18 01:40 PM

My reapers just flowered. I think I might feed them now. What do you think?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/18 02:13 PM

Solid plan
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/19/18 03:46 PM

Originally Posted By: takewhatyoucan64
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
My neighbor's watermelon.






kinda turns me on wtf


He just called with one from another crop.


Posted By: huck18

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/27/18 06:34 PM

What are yall planting for the fall and when are you planting it?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/27/18 11:47 PM

I'm skipping this fall. I'll have volunteer cilantro.

Payne is sleeping on the job. He has a little chart.
Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/30/18 08:56 PM

Got 4 Jubilee tomatoes started from seed transplanted last month but don't know if they'll make fruit in time and trying 1 Phoenix bush tomato. Still got Jalapenos, Anaheims and Pequines putting out.
Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/04/18 02:01 PM

And the hornworms came back like a champ this weekend. Thought they were done for the year.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/06/18 08:10 PM

Tilled a third sport today. I think I am going to go with Yellowdoll next year here. I will have to thin out the trees/shrubs some. I was amazed at how good the soil is here.

Posted By: SapperTitan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/08/18 04:08 AM

My fall garden is growing great, should get a very high yield
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/08/18 04:43 PM

cool2
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/11/18 10:59 PM

Someone asked back in April about keeping my onions. I put the last one on my cheeseburger tonight.
Posted By: Judd

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/15/18 03:04 PM

Originally Posted By: SapperTitan
My fall garden is growing great, should get a very high yield


I'll trade ya some peppers? grin

Looks like this weather might do my jalapenos and sweet banana peppers in...the habaneros just started really making something in the last month and still tons of them to get ripe.
Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/12/18 10:31 PM

Last of the peppers.



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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/12/18 11:10 PM

nice haul
Posted By: Herbie Hancock

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/12/18 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by Payne



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This is the first year we have had those Egyptian Geese show up in my area, they appear to be really dumb with how close I can get to them.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/13/18 01:03 AM

Those showed up 4-5 years ago and haven't left since they found the peafowl & cat food. They had a bunch of kids then killed them 8 months later. They're very territorial about the tank. They chase off herons three times their size. I found an article in the chronicle about how they are developing a large flock in the Houston area, it had a lot of information about them.
Posted By: janie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/13/18 03:01 PM

Our garden is done. Tomato's had made a huge comeback. Got home from work yesterday, and the tarp used to cover them was flapping like parachute, due to the high winds. Called it quits. Freezing temp's. Picked over 75 green one's. Finger's crossed some will ripen.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/13/18 04:52 PM

Make some chow-chow aka green tomato relish with about a half dozen of your greenest tomatoes. It's easy and does not require a hot bath. Chop tomatoes, onions, bell peppers, and jalapeos in your food processor. Add salt and sugar. Pour in a pan and cover with vinegar. Bring it to a boil, dip out with a slotted spoon, and into pint jars. They all will click. You should end with about half your volume.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/14/18 02:18 PM

Wife and I pulled all our cherry tomatoes (about a gallon bucket) and jalapenos (about a quart bucket) last night before the freeze settled in. I hadn't checked the jalapeno plant in over a month since it had the fungus looking stuff about half way up the main stem, I was shocked at how many peppers were on it.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/15/18 10:40 PM

Watermelon area is getting fenced in. Need to remove the garlic and some limbs in spring.


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Posted By: AdanV

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/03/19 03:47 PM

I should've posted here instead in the main DIY thread.


How many here make their own compost?

I'm going to start making some this year.
The only "know-how" I have are some youtube videos, however none of them are done in SE Texas.
As yall know, SE Texas is humid and we can go several weeks with rain, and several weeks dry.

The only thing I've done so far is drill 1" holes all over an old plastic 45 gallon trash bin.
Then loaded it with mulched leaves, grass clippings, and about 1 gallon of left over gardening soil.
To mix it around, I've been using a small shovel.
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/03/19 08:51 PM

I've been doing for years. Mulch leaves from riding lawnmower dump in numerous sites let set for a year or more. Dig up beautiful soil.
Posted By: AdanV

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/03/19 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by Dalee7892
I've been doing for years. Mulch leaves from riding lawnmower dump in numerous sites let set for a year or more. Dig up beautiful soil.



So I should be good?
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/05/19 05:33 PM

Got some cherry and almond trees planted, new lower/mid chill varieties, not known to grow well in Texas but if I get a little flowering my bees will enjoy them.

The heavy late summer rains sure put growth on my other fruit trees, will be a lot of pruning going on next month here.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/07/19 05:41 PM

I pruned my peach and plum trees Dec. 31 and this crazy little peach tree is already putting on leafs and threatening buds. This is the same one I've posted about the last several years that is normally in full bloom by mid/late January. Sam Houston and has some of the best tasting peaches I've ever eaten. I also trimmed back my asparagus beds and hope they do better this year than last (although we neglected them last year).
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/19 12:59 AM

Time to put in your onion sets.
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/19 03:59 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Time to put in your onion sets.

Not worried about the freeze?
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/19 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by mrmo
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Time to put in your onion sets.

Not worried about the freeze?



Onions can handle some cold and light freezes, but a few weeks early yet for up here (NCTEX)
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/19 05:28 PM

Payne. I have a friend starting a larger garden. It's overrun by grass. Last year I saw you post a picture of some type of garden tarp you used to block out the grass. Which one did you use and did you like the results?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/19 05:39 PM

I used the preen landscape fabric for years. https://www.samsclub.com/sams/preen-contractor-s-grade-landscape-fabric-4ft-x-225ft/193953.ip

I couldn't find it last year so I picked up some from Home Depot that was more expensive. It works for me, my garden is surrounded by pastures and I get all kinds of weed seed blown in to the garden. If I didn't have the fabric I would be hoeing everyday.

I'd tell your buddy to look for the Preen if he can find it up there or online, it was a better product then the fabric I found at Home Depot although it did work well enough.


I'll probably go with this if I can't find the Preen

https://www.amazon.com/SCOTTS-Fabri...&hvtargid=pla-318198564946&psc=1
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/19 05:50 PM

Excellent. His garden will be surrounded by pasture too. That's why I thought of you. Thanks for the info!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/19 05:56 PM

Youre welcome

I found some porters in a six pack at a feed store last year. I bought them since I read your posts over there, they didnt produce as well as my standards but were tasty. Id plant them again.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/19 06:07 PM

I've done Porters the last 2-3 years with really good success. This year I'm not growing them. This year I'm only doing determinates. I want to try some smaller bushes. The seeds I've got so far are Chico III, Baxter's and Viva Italia. We'll see how they do.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/19 06:13 PM

Burpees has a bush I tried a few years back that worked well for me. I cant remember the name right now but it was an exclusive for them.

I just got their catalog and burgess yesterday. Ill take a look and see if they still have them.
Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/21/19 07:54 PM

Overhauled the garden this round. Got tired of fighting nut grass. Laid down some typar fabric. Ran a test on it for a couple of months last year and nut grass didn't grow through it. We'll see. Still have a couple of raised beds to add.

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/21/19 08:06 PM

Looks great
Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/21/19 08:51 PM

Looks good. I've got a small yard and 1 3x8 raised bed. Got more lumber today to build another so I can have a little more room. Weed fabric worked good for me too.
Posted By: Ders26

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/21/19 09:53 PM

up
Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/26/19 10:45 PM

Put #2 bed in today. Better if I didn't tie it to the fence so I could walk around it but it'll do.
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/29/19 01:20 AM

I grew up on a cotton farm in Arkansas. There was always a big celebration with the first bale of cotton.

I still celebrate my first ripe tomatoes. I've cut way back. I'm only putting in a half dozen celebrities this year. I plan to give them a try after this coming cold front. I can cover them or even dig them up with another freeze warning..

Want to have a contest on first ripe tomatoes?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/29/19 07:05 PM

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I had a dorm fridge in the greenhouse, the freezer leaked all over my seed stash

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/29/19 07:07 PM

That's why I buy my plants. They become part of my babies once I see them sprout from the soil.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/30/19 12:01 AM

That's looking good Payne! I'm starting tomatoes this weekend. I started peppers a couple weeks ago since they are typically a PITA to germinate. So far my pepper germ rates have been great.

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/30/19 12:30 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
That's looking good Payne! I'm starting tomatoes this weekend. I started peppers a couple weeks ago since they are typically a PITA to germinate. So far my pepper germ rates have been great.

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Your little babies.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/30/19 12:55 AM

Thanks Derek. Like your setup. My germ rate on peppers went up after I bought that heat pad in the second pic. I ordered a couple of grow light bulbs to replace the regular led's, the tubes are full spectrum. This is what's coming https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...sin_title_o00__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


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Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/30/19 01:32 AM

Looking good! Hope to get round one started in the next few days.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/30/19 02:20 AM

Excellent work Payne. Heat pads are perfect. About 85deg is key for peppers. Hot ones anyways. My pepper germ went way up once I went to the paper towel method. Lot's of youtubes on it. I went to the condiment cup method. I like it better since it's easier to check for roots. Here is a simple instructional pic for those not in the know. Tap the top lid every couple days to drop the moisture back down on the seeds. You might need to remist as the cups lose more moisture compared to the paper towel method.

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/30/19 02:25 AM

roflmao I'm going to try that with some japs. They're my problem child.


Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/19 05:56 PM

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Posted By: Ders26

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/19 07:11 PM

I plan on growing tomatoes and peppers from seed for the first time this year. I hoping to start them this weekend.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/19 07:17 PM

I'm buying and putting some tomato plants in the ground next week unless I see frost in the 10 forecast. I need to get a new sack of fertilizer. I forgot the numbers I used last year. What fertilizer do you use?
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/19 11:53 PM

13-13-13 Seems this was used a lot last year.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/19 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by Ders26
I plan on growing tomatoes and peppers from seed for the first time this year. I hoping to start them this weekend.


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It's not hard just need heat & light. If you have any questions just ask. Good Luck.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/19 01:47 PM

Just did my soil test last weekend and will be adding nitrogen (bloodmeal) reducing pH (ferrous sulfate) and adding potas sium (potassium sulfate).. I use to just add a bag of fertilizer here and there but now Im able to target the specific needs with a soil test kit. I highly recommend getting one as the one I found was around $30 but will last many years for me. The results from last year exceeded my expectations.

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/19 02:40 PM

Is that a beefsteak tomato?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/19 04:04 PM

I've never gotten a soil test. I put more fertilizer than is needed, and wood ash from my burn pile under each plant. Works for me. Love that large tomato. Don't understand growing Roma's.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/19 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Is that a beefsteak tomato?

Think we had this conversation last year. I dont really know.. maybe a heirloom hybrid of some sort. Wished I had payed more attention because they turned out pretty good.

Bill, youre obviously doing something right. Your garden is always above par.
Our soil is so bad up here and I could always grow stuff, but nothing to brag about other than maybe a good okra crop. What surprised me the most with that first soil sample was how high the pH was. That little adjustment turned things around.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/19 04:37 PM

roflmaosorry must have forgotten again. nice work.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/19 06:56 PM

Can't wait until I get big slicer tomatoes. Invented a new sandwich this week. I has coleslaw on the bottom slice of toast.

https://texasfishingforum.com/forum...mber/13049121/gonew/1/lunch-today#UNREAD


Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/02/19 04:21 PM

and so it begins


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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/02/19 05:37 PM

Got my taxes done today and stopped by the nursery. I'm putting these celebtries in the ground as soon as my soil dries enough to till.

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Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/03/19 07:24 AM

Dug up some compost to add to garden. I think it looks great. [Linked Image]
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/03/19 03:10 PM

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/03/19 03:23 PM

Very nice
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/19 04:33 PM

Cilantro. The crop that keeps on giving. You only have to plant in once in your liftime? I use it in most of my soups and stews as well as in most Mexican dishes. It puts on fragrant white blooms (upper right corner) that attracts bees. You can roast the seeds and grind them for coriander. It's scattered over most of my garden.

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/06/19 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Got my taxes done today and stopped by the nursery. I'm putting these celebtries in the ground as soon as my soil dries enough to till.

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I plan to mud them in today if the soil is too wet to till. The forecast is for a record high of 80 degrees. Some volunteers are coming up in my garden
Posted By: Ders26

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/06/19 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Got my taxes done today and stopped by the nursery. I'm putting these celebtries in the ground as soon as my soil dries enough to till.

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I plan to mud them in today if the soil is too wet to till. The forecast is for a record high of 80 degrees. Some volunteers are coming up in my garden


I know you are further south than me, but there is supposed to be another front that comes through later this week getting into the mid 20s. Be careful with them.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/19 01:28 AM

Tomatoes are sprouting.....

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/19 01:36 AM

five day germ on beefsteaks?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/19 01:38 AM

Yep. Is that an issue? They did about the same the last two years.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/19 01:42 AM

not at all, it's an exhibition not a competition, just checking your coding.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/19 04:23 PM

Need some help with a plumb tree.
So last year was the first year my plumb tree actually produced after planting 3-4 years ago. There were probably 70+ plums but all had some type of worm eating on them.. what can I do to prevent that this year? I just trimmed a couple weeks ago and noticed new growth this week.. is sure like to make some preserves this year.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/19 05:11 PM

what did the worms look like? you can use neem oil, garret juice, malathion or an insecticide.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/19 05:25 PM

Tiny little brown worms.. they bored holes to the core..
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/19 05:40 PM

were there any holes in the tree itself?
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/19 06:43 PM

Havent noticed any holes in the tree, but Ill look. Dont remember seeing any worms on the tree or leaves for that matter, just inside every plumb
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/19 07:02 PM

I use neem on my trees, you would have to wait until the temps are higher though. Dig down 6" in the soil around the trunk and look.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/19 07:03 PM

Soil is perfect this year.


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Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/19 07:59 PM

Looks like youre in business!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/19 08:13 PM

started raining as soon as I got done, good clean living rolleyes
Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/19 09:39 PM

Started these last Saturday. Tomatoes on the left and back two rows of the right. Japs just now sprouting [Linked Image]
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/19 09:48 PM

looks good
Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/19 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
Soil is perfect this year.


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That's some good lookin dirt.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/19 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by greenen
Originally Posted by Payne
Soil is perfect this year.


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That's some good lookin dirt.


Yep. He caught a good window. My garden is still too wet to till.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/19 04:31 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
Soil is perfect this year.


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Looks damn good. What's your mix?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/19 04:39 AM

Originally Posted by Hancock
Started these last Saturday. Tomatoes on the left and back two rows of the right. Japs just now sprouting [Linked Image]


Those are leggy AF.(starving for light) You need to upgrade your light game bro.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/19 04:40 AM

Great germ rate though!
Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/19 06:22 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Hancock
Started these last Saturday. Tomatoes on the left and back two rows of the right. Japs just now sprouting [Linked Image]


Those are leggy AF.(starving for light) You need to upgrade your light game bro.


Just sun so far, picked up a light today
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/19 01:50 PM

Atta boy. Window sill sun typically isn't enough for seedlings.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/19 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Looks damn good. What's your mix?



A&M micro-nutrient soil test every other year. I have been adding three-four yards of mushroom compost from a mushroom farm in Gonzales for years. Last year I dumped seven yards of compost and seven yards of top soil in the garden.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/19 03:28 PM

Deep roots Payne. Love deep roots.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/19 06:16 PM

Got mine tilled this morning.. feed store is out of red potatoes until Monday, so hopefully will get in the ground next weekend.

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/19 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by Stevarino
Got mine tilled this morning.. feed store is out of red potatoes until Monday, so hopefully will get in the ground next weekend.

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Well done. What is the green in the lower left corner?
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/19 07:16 PM

Rosemary. Planted last spring and its done well. Lots of trimming though.
Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/19 10:38 PM

Got one of the Taotronics 12 watt grow bulbs last year. I only start a few plants from seed every year. These are Porters. Is 12 watts enough? I don't have a warming mat under them either. Thanks. [Linked Image]
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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/19 11:39 PM

That light is fine, I would try to put more of your seedlings in the middle of the lights throw or rotate them. Looks like they are inside and in a controlled temperature, they'll be fine without a heat pad.


Good soil Stevarino
Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/19 03:50 PM

Thanks. I'm rotating them.
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/19 07:21 PM

Do y'all soak your seeds before planting in garden? Peas and beans
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/19 08:58 PM

I don't soak but water them in really well after I sow. I know they recommend 6-8 hours if you soak them.


greenen I saw a 10"x20" heat pad at lowes today, they were $26. It was the ferry-morse brand by the seed packets.
Posted By: ChrisG

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/19 09:41 PM

Grow Mat
This is the one I have been using, I also got a temp controller. So far I have had the best pepper germination this year.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/19 10:01 PM

That's a good deal, just ordered the 48x20 with the controller Thanks for the link.
Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/19 11:25 PM

Thanks Payne. I actually ordered one from Amazon yesterday. Premature shopping on my part as usual.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/12/19 03:16 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisG
Grow Mat
This is the one I have been using, I also got a temp controller. So far I have had the best pepper germination this year.


Good deal on the mat. I ordered one. Thanks! What type of peppers are you growing and what was your germination method and temp?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/12/19 03:33 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
I don't soak but water them in really well after I sow. I know they recommend 6-8 hours if you soak them.


I've soaked in the past. Didn't soak this year at all. This includes my paper towel or cond cup method. My direct sow tomato seeds are almost 100% germ. Pepper germ is better than I ever thought it would be. And I'm growing hot ones, which can be tough to germ.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/12/19 03:39 AM

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Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/12/19 03:49 AM

Looks good! Why do you only plant in half of those?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/12/19 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Hancock
Looks good! Why do you only plant in half of those?


I was just planting 6 of each variety and keeping them separate. Looking back at it now it was a complete waste of space on my part. Next time I'll use the whole tray and write on each 1/2 tray what variety it is.
Posted By: ChrisG

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/12/19 02:13 PM

I am using the 36 pod Jiffy Kit from HomeD, I currently have Chocolate Beauty, Emerald Giant, Shishito from the Dirt Dr, Jalapeno Tam, Mennonite Stuffing, and Quadrato D'Asti Rosso. I have them under some cheap LEDs I won off ebay set to 5am-9:15pm and have the heat mat set to 85. I tried the Chocolate Beauty, Emerald Giant, Shishito, and the Jalapeno last year with no success. This year I have had 95% success with the Quadrato and the Menonnite, and 40% or better with the others which is a big improvement. I keep my seeds stored in a zip lock bag in the garage freezer year around. I also have San Marzano and Stupice Tomatoes started but will be significantly adding to that later.

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/12/19 02:31 PM

Nice setup
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/13/19 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisG
I tried the Chocolate Beauty, Emerald Giant, Shishito, and the Jalapeno last year with no success. [/img]


I watched a show last year where they were growing and cooking Shishitos. I'd never had one, so I ordered some seeds. That is a mighty fine eating pepper. Hope yours do good and you get to eat some.
Posted By: ChrisG

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/19 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Nice setup


Thank You Sir

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by ChrisG
I tried the Chocolate Beauty, Emerald Giant, Shishito, and the Jalapeno last year with no success. [/img]


I watched a show last year where they were growing and cooking Shishitos. I'd never had one, so I ordered some seeds. That is a mighty fine eating pepper. Hope yours do good and you get to eat some.


I used to listen to The Dirt Doctor radio show every week, but have stopped because it was just too repetitive. I bought a couple of his books during a promotion he was having and got the shishito, jicama, inland sea oats, and Mexican buckeye seeds. So far they have had the worst germ rate, but I have two strong seedlings that I have good feelings about.

Here is an update:
The last pic was last thursday, since then I have transplanted 12 of the Italian Red Bells, 6 of the Mennonites, 6 of the Chocolate Beauties, and 2 Jalapenos.
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This weekend I plan on starting Porter, Orange Bannana, Yellow Pear, Black Cherry, and Red Cherry Tomatoes.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/19 06:52 PM

What light/s are you using?
Posted By: ChrisG

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/19 07:11 PM

I just watch auctions on eBay. I do not think there is a brand name and I am not sure of the wattage but I got them cheap.

Here is a similar auction.

LED Auction
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/19 07:14 PM

Thanks, I just want to make the greenhouse glow purple at night. Maybe have purple rain on a loop....
Posted By: ChrisG

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/19 07:57 PM

My station is in a south facing window and my wife says it makes the backyard look like aliens have landed.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/19 08:35 PM

roflmao
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/19 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisG
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I used to listen to The Dirt Doctor radio show every week, but have stopped because it was just too repetitive. I bought a couple of his books during a promotion he was having and got the shishito, jicama, inland sea oats, and Mexican buckeye seeds. So far they have had the worst germ rate, but I have two strong seedlings that I have good feelings about.


I agree it is repetitive. Check out the Bob Webster show out of San Antonio. It's pretty good.
https://www.ktsa.com/shows/bob-webster/

Lighting setup looks great!
Posted By: Ders26

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/19 10:39 PM

I started some tomatoes and peppers from seedlings this year for the first time. I bought a grow light off amazon. It was not a prime item so I elected for the free shipping (5-8 days per site). It took 10 days. Well my tomato seedlings sprouted and jumped around 4 inched before my light came in. They are pretty lanky. Will they fill out any? Will they be okay? Is there anything I can do to help them reach their full potential?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/19 11:28 PM

You can start over or rotate the seedlings to see if the light helps straighten them out. Also make sure you are watering them enough. If they are tall when you go to transplant them bury most of the stem in the ground, they will root off the stem and be fine. If you have some extra seeds, soil, pots and room I would start some more just to be safe.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/14/19 11:43 PM

You can also put a fan on them to strengthen the stem. You just want it to move them around gently
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/15/19 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
You can start over or rotate the seedlings to see if the light helps straighten them out. Also make sure you are watering them enough. If they are tall when you go to transplant them bury most of the stem in the ground, they will root off the stem and be fine. If you have some extra seeds, soil, pots and room I would start some more just to be safe.


^this. Ders you didn't mention what you're starting them in. If you have enough room in your peat pot, dixie cup, whatever to add soil up to the bottom 2 leaves they will be fine. If you don't have enough room I'd transplant them to something bigger where you can add soil up on them and they will do fine.

I knocked 2 of mine off my growing table a week ago. All soil knocked out of the cups and tomato seedlings fully exposed. I (carefully) replanted them and put soil up to the bottom 2 leaves and they are doing great today.

I also recommend a fan.
Posted By: ChrisG

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/15/19 02:20 PM




I start three or more seeds in a jiffy pellet, once they pop up to about 2" tall I transplant using the method in the video except I use a bamboo skewer.
Posted By: ChrisG

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/15/19 02:30 PM

Since it was so nice yesterday after work I brought everything outside for a little. So here is the lineup so far:
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At the top in the first tray are the stupice and san marzano tomatoes. Everything else is some sort of pepper.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/15/19 02:36 PM

Looks great
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/19 05:21 PM

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/19 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
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I put in six tomato plants and the cut worms got three of them. Can that little bitty ladybug eat a cutworm?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/19 07:53 PM

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/19 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
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Looks great. Mine has been too wet to take a peek. I want to put some seeds in the ground but am waiting on some 80 degree days.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/19 02:21 PM

Weve got 20s in the forecast during the first part of March. I sure hope my potatoes dont pop up before then.
Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/19 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by Stevarino
Weve got 20s in the forecast during the first part of March. I sure hope my potatoes dont pop up before then.


Just keep covering them, they need hilling anyway
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/19 07:23 PM

Here I was going to plant some tomatoes and squash guess I'll wait. My onions just poke up about 1/2"
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/19 12:54 AM

Freeze warning for next week.. I'll probably go all in after then
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/19 12:55 AM

Wave 1 progress.

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/19 05:44 PM

looks good cman



I was clearing out my uncles home last week and stumbled upon this clock


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Made in 1979 and still works, I had to adjust the moon/frost settings after I let it sit for a week.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/19 07:08 PM

That's freaking awesome
Posted By: Ders26

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/19 08:27 PM

Very Cool up
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/19 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
looks good cman



I was clearing out my uncles home last week and stumbled upon this clock


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Made in 1979 and still works, I had to adjust the moon/frost settings after I let it sit for a week.


That's awesome.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/19 02:06 AM

I'm itching to plant. Still a few weeks out. My seedlings are looking good.

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Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/19 02:12 AM

Cool clock for sure.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/19 02:22 AM

Thanks, what lights are you using?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/19 02:31 AM

Hell I don't know. Came off the tower garden. Down to two working bulbs frown
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/19 12:54 PM

your lack of professionalism is troubling



looks good Derek, average last frost dates are March 1-10 here. I'll plant somewhere between the 14th & 17th weather permitting.
Posted By: ChrisG

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/19 04:00 PM

Looks like everyone has a good start. I am also getting the itch to plant. Mostly because I am running out of room inside. I have my second bed put together, I just need a dry few days to make the trip to silvercreek and fill it up.
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Plants look good though.
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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/19 08:08 PM

looks good Chris



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Going to try artichokes in containers



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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/19 03:17 PM


Three of these celebtries made it. They should start blooming by next weekend. I plan to cover them Monday and Tuesday nights, and leave the drip on them.

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Posted By: Ders26

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/19 03:26 PM

I still have my peppers and tomatoes in the house under lamps. My tomatoes have taken a turn for the worse. I do not know if they are not warm enough or if I over watered them. Their soil doesn't seem damp but they started down hill the morning after I watered them. I hope I can bring them back around.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/19 04:21 PM

what are they doing?
Posted By: Ders26

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/19 02:11 PM

All but 3 of them wilted bad over night. After the wilt, I didn't water for 4 days fearing I over watered. Well that didn't help any and I started to see a downturn in my 3 good ones. I only planned on keeping 6 of my 15 plants mainly to make salsa. I hope I can revive a few of them. Probably 6 of my 15 are already a lost cause but I cant let them go without knowing I did what I could to save them.
Posted By: Ders26

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/19 02:11 PM

Peppers are starting to look good though.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/19 08:29 PM

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New moon tomorrow, average last frost for 9a on the tenth. I'm going to wrap the rows & sow some seeds this weekend. Not sure if I'll transplant but I'll get that done before the full moon.
Posted By: Always ready 2 hunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/19 10:31 PM

Ok, I'm thinking here near DFW planting in very near future. Thursday and Friday suppose to be up in the 70s, hopefully freeze and frosts are behind us now but at least I can cover my small raised bed and tire gardens
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/19 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Always ready 2 hunt
Ok, I'm thinking here near DFW planting in very near future. Thursday and Friday suppose to be up in the 70s, hopefully freeze and frosts are behind us now but at least I can cover my small raised bed and tire gardens


I'm probably going to wait another 2 weeks. 10 day shows mid 30's for the lows next weekend.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/19 02:53 PM

What zone are you in?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/19 02:59 PM

8 - I'm 30 miles south of Dallas
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/19 03:11 PM

I'm still on the fence on transplanting, The 10 day is showing 40's & 50's..
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/19 03:18 PM

I plan to go all in tomorrow. May plant some watermelons later. Had a neighbor who had some great watermelons that came up in his burn pile. Thinking of planting some in my burn pile.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/19 04:18 PM

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Think I'll give the heat mats some insulation for next year.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/19 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
8 - I'm 30 miles south of Dallas


Im thinking 3-4 weeks. Teens just a few days ago here in mckinney. The 10 day outlook prior to was a good 10 degrees higher than actual. 40s and even 50s in the 10 day scare me a bit. Id like to see 50s-60s.

My potatoes havent come up yet but should soon.. summer crops will go in after the first of April at the earliest.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/19 06:37 PM

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15 mph wind on Saturday, no wind at the moment. I need to fix those creases...
Posted By: ChrisG

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/19 11:35 PM

Payne that's quite the collection of tomato cages you got there.

I finally got the chance to move some of my bigger plants to my portable greenhouse. I've had it set up for about two weeks but didn't want to chance it this past cold front.
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Tomatoes on the top right, Jalapenos below, Sweet peppers top left and Violets below.

Got everything inside moved up a level.
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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/19 11:42 PM

There's another fifty in the shed, those green triangle kind. Stopped using them because the snails infested them.


Are you using the greenhouse as a cold frame? Looks great.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/19 03:36 AM

I'm guessing I'm 15 days out from planting.

Got in two passes in spot 2 tonight. Clover looked good. Took it forever. A third of this spot is dedicated to blackberries.

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/19 01:12 PM

looks good
Posted By: ChrisG

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/19 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Are you using the greenhouse as a cold frame? Looks great.


For that and because I was running out of room under the lights. This keeps the plants growing and hopefully acclimates them to being outside.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/19 03:34 AM

A third of this area will be dedicated to blackberries. Leaves me with 2 rows this year. We'll see....

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/19 05:13 PM

Had a visitor in the garden today

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planted cukes, squash, marigolds, nasturtiums, petunias and zinnias


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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/19 01:20 AM

Thanks for the heads up Payne. I have plenty of leftover space for flower seeds.
Posted By: ChrisG

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/19 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by Chickenman
A third of this area will be dedicated to blackberries. Leaves me with 2 rows this year. We'll see....



Are you going thorn less?
Posted By: B-radder

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/19 05:42 PM

Payne, what landscape material is that?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/19 05:57 PM

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KX88664/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Posted By: Judd

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/19 03:35 PM

I couldn't resist the rain we got Sat morning...I tilled up my little area and I planted 5 tomato plants and 3 pepper plants. Not sure if I'll add anything else this year or not. I tried to talk the wife into a row of greenbeans but she didn't want them hammer

I'll cover them if we get another cold snap...I just couldn't wait and was anxious to get them going.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/19 04:19 PM

If you plant basil around the plants it will enhance the flavor of the tomatoes & peppers. /unsolicited advice
Posted By: B-radder

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/19 04:48 PM

By sowing in the seeds at the same time you put tomato transplants in?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/19 05:33 PM

Yes, I sow a seed at the base when I transplant the plants
Posted By: glens

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/19 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
If you plant basil around the plants it will enhance the flavor of the tomatoes & peppers. /unsolicited advice

Holler when those mato's get ready. texas
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/19 06:56 PM

up
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/19 09:22 PM

here's a couple of good companion planting guides


https://www.almanac.com/content/companion-planting-guide

https://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/companion-planting-guide-zmaz81mjzraw
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/19 09:32 PM

Basil came back volunteer for several years for me. Then it didn't.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/19 05:43 PM

Only got down to 50 here last night. My squash and zucchini plants are up and I got a good stand. I moved the location to the other end of the garden to get away from the squash borers.

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Some of my cilantro has gone to bloom. Can't wait for the honey bees to move in. I often wonder how the honey would taste.

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/19 12:07 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
My squash and zucchini plants are up and I got a good stand. I moved the location to the other end of the garden to get away from the squash borers.




Plant icicle radishes and nasturtiums around your squash. You need to sow the radishes every month since they're ready to harvest in 28 days. You need to use a file on the nasturtiums seeds for them to germinate or buy the Sow Easy seeds from Lowes. If that's too much of a hassle spread DE around the base and reapply after each rain.

/unsolicited advice
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/19 12:56 AM

Roma, cherry, and beefsteaks got planted. Then the weatherman said potential frost tonight. We'll see.

Got the two 50 foot rows covered.

Sheryl Crow got a makeover. Rodeo Clown is the theme the kids decided on.

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/19 01:06 AM

That's awesome, what paint did you use?



Your rows look great.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/19 02:09 AM

Just use a bunch of spray and exterior paint I have. Coated it with polyurethane when she was done. I might polyurethane the other scarecrow just to protect it.
Posted By: ChrisG

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/19 01:06 PM

Looks like everyone got to take advantage to the great weather this past weekend.

I topped my existing bed off with compost and got my new bed filled with a lava sand compost mix.

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I did not plant anything but my little greenhouse is doing good.

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I most likely wont get a chance to plant anything in the ground until Friday.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/19 04:34 PM

Man, I wanted to plant some seeds yesterday but fought the temptation. Still looking like the first of April before soil temps stay around 60 or better. Ive got a few tomato plants, eggplant, and basil going in pots.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/19 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Only got down to 50 here last night. My squash and zucchini plants are up and I got a good stand. I moved the location to the other end of the garden to get away from the squash borers.


Some of my cilantro has gone to bloom. Can't wait for the honey bees to move in. I often wonder how the honey would taste.

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You will just have to trust me on this. There is no way I'm going to try to take a picture of a honeybee, but they are working the cilantro this afternoon. There were also yellow and red wasp on there.

Also, I was about to give up on my burpless cucumbers and they are breaking the ground.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/19 12:43 PM

Looking good all! I haven't done chit. Might plant a few tomatoes but that will be it this year.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/19 06:39 PM

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Pecan trees are starting to bloom, time to plant


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cukes are sprouting, around 90% germ.

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Still need to transfer some flowers and sow some seeds in between the plants, move in the soaker hoses, owls & scarecrows. Then I'll sow some beans and leftover plants around the orchard.
Posted By: AledoGYoung

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/19 09:14 PM

I have had a garden for the past three years and am always late getting everything planted. I usually try to plant around Good Friday, but I'm ready to get the seeds in the ground! Should I be alright to get the seeds in the ground or should I wait a couple of more weeks? I am located in Aledo.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/19 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by AledoGYoung
I have had a garden for the past three years and am always late getting everything planted. I usually try to plant around Good Friday, but I'm ready to get the seeds in the ground! Should I be alright to get the seeds in the ground or should I wait a couple of more weeks? I am located in Aledo.



Seeds are cheap. Go for it. No way would put plants in the ground that I grew in the house if I lived where you live.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/19 09:34 PM

go ahead and sow the seeds. if you catch a freeze, no big deal, sow again.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/19 02:24 PM

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Posted By: B-radder

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/19 03:13 PM

Payne would you use your black material over your radish rows or leave it bare due to the small spacing for radishes?

I watered my tomatoes mostly over head last year and I think that's what lead to the early blight. I have a hose I can run to the garden should I get the stuff to make a drip system?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/19 04:09 PM

I like the drip system.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/19 05:09 PM

You can cut a strip twice the size of the radishes or leave it bare. I plant mine around the cucumbers.

Use a drip or a soaker hose, you don't want to water the foliage. Put a tablespoon of epsom salt around the base of your tomatoes to reduce the possibility of blight.
Posted By: B-radder

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/19 05:48 PM

When you say by the cucumbers are you saying in the same row? How wide are your rows?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/19 06:00 PM

Three feet wide three feet apart
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/19 03:10 PM

Pruning or no pruning? I'm always torn. I caged my tomatoes this morning. I had to prune off some of those suckers, root sprouts or whatever you all them. What do you call them? Do you continue to prune them back try to cage them?
Posted By: ChrisG

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/19 05:49 PM

Once mine get to be about 18" tall I will cut off everything close to the ground, and try to train the plant to grow the direction I want it too. If new growth get close to the ground I will trim it back, I might even thin the plants out late July to help with air circulation. I also put a 40% shade over my garden when the temps average about 95.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/19 02:53 PM

My squash came right up and I got a good stand. I'm still having trouble getting my cucumbers up.
Posted By: Ders26

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/19 03:13 PM

Got my seeds planted this weekend. Will probably put some plants in the ground next weekend if the weather still looks good.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/19 08:54 PM

I'll have tomatoes setting here next week.

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Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/19 09:32 PM

All mine have flowers I hope it's better than past years.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/19 11:19 PM

Great thread Payne. Thanks again.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/19 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
My squash came right up and I got a good stand. I'm still having trouble getting my cucumbers up.


Miracles still happen. Everything is up, its growing, and I got a good stand.


Posted By: ChrisG

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/19 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Miracles still happen. Everything is up, its growing, and I got a good stand.


That's great Bill

I got all of my sweet peppers and tomatoes transplanted last weekend and there is a san marzano with tomatoes already. Hopefully Saturday nights 38 low with 20 mph north winds don't wipe them out. I still have hot peppers, squash, eggplant, and melons waiting to be planted.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/19 04:11 PM

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looks like my best Santa Rosa died, planted in 1998.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/19 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisG
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Miracles still happen. Everything is up, its growing, and I got a good stand.


That's great Bill

I got all of my sweet peppers and tomatoes transplanted last weekend and there is a san marzano with tomatoes already. Hopefully Saturday nights 38 low with 20 mph north winds don't wipe them out. I still have hot peppers, squash, eggplant, and melons waiting to be planted.






Put a dripper at the base of your tomato plants if you are afraid of frost. I'm doing it even though a frost is not forecast south if I-10.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/19 01:05 PM

No frost on the rooftops here. Weather man said we tied a record low.
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/19 01:46 PM

It got down to 32* and frost on the rooftops and the ground. I covered the tomatoes and peppers with buckets and flowerpots. Getting ready to go pull them off and see if anything got burnt.
Supposed to be the same or colder tonight so I will add a tarp over the covers as I have several tomatoes that are already blooming.
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Posted By: ChrisG

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/19 02:35 PM

These are from Friday pre cold front.

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I saw some damaged tips yesterday but we will see after work.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/19 09:24 PM

Another record low is forecast for tonight. Fingers crossed. The weather man reported that the high today was a record low for April first.
Posted By: B-radder

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/02/19 01:56 PM

Going to make a drip system today in hopes I reduse disease in my tomatoes. I know I need a 25psi pressure reducer and back flow preventer, for my main line I'm thinking half inch, do you guys continue with half inch for what is lying on your beds or reduce down to 1/4? Also are yall using the stakes to keep the coil out of the pipe?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/03/19 01:08 AM

Jubilee, Heart of Gold, and H 19 cucumbers (from Derek 2018) are sprouting. Gardens are looking good. Started the first wave of herbs and flowers.

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/03/19 01:14 AM

rows look fantastic
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/19 01:40 AM

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Posted By: B-radder

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/19 05:04 PM

Payne , do water all your veggies with over head irrigation?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/19 05:17 PM

No, I run soaker hoses. That was in there when I sowed seeds.
Posted By: B-radder

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/19 07:31 PM

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/19 07:47 PM

looks good
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/19 08:35 PM

Good weather to grow
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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/19 08:39 PM

impressive dalee
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/19 12:54 PM

I got more cucumbers up on my one hill than I need. I hate to thin them. Anyone ever transplant them in the garden?
Posted By: Ders26

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/19 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
I got more cucumbers up on my one hill than I need. I hate to thin them. Anyone ever transplant them in the garden?

I have before. Transplanted around 10 plants a week after they sprouted. I probably had a 50% success rate but I was able to dig a decent size area around the plant.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/19 03:05 PM

Very happy with the jump my garden has on the season! banana
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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/19 03:38 PM

very nice, those containers are neat.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/19 04:09 PM

If you are talking about the concrete ones Thanks I made those.

If you are talking about the grow bags this is my first time to use them and really curious how they will turn out
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/19 04:26 PM

Beautiful rain going to make everything jump up
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/19 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by Dalee7892
Beautiful rain going to make everything jump up



Got mine today. Tomatoes are setting.
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/19 12:49 AM

I hVe two tomato plants with flowers, only about foot high. Should i cut the flower off to let plant mature more?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/19 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by Dalee7892
I hVe two tomato plants with flowers, only about foot high. Should i cut the flower off to let plant mature more?


I never have. They will continue to grow. Seems as if I always have a bottom crop, a middle crop,and a top crop.
Posted By: Judd

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/19 02:27 PM

I've got blooms on all 5 of mine and have for the last week...be interesting to see if any of them make any tomatoes banana
Posted By: ChrisG

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/19 02:54 PM

I got everything in the ground this weekend except for okra.

The right bed has squash, sweet peppers, eggplant, and tomatoes. The left bed has melons, eggplant, hot peppers, tomatoes, and corn. It will also have the okra.
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These are the only three cucumbers I had sprout, and some of the self seeding onions from my grandma
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These are left over orange banana tomatoes, one red bell pepper, and potatoes to the left. We also stuck some royal purple been seeds in there.
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It has been a lot of work. I think I have planted around 115 seedlings. My next step is to get my irrigation set up.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/19 08:25 PM

The garden class I go to built these keyhole gardens a couple of years ago.


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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/19 11:03 PM

Greatness Payne. Lowe's has landscape timbers on sale for $2.50 each.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/19 01:14 PM

I really like those Payne. May add some of those next year. The compost in the center is intriguing
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/19 03:50 PM

I have the build list somewhere around here, I'll look to see if I can find it.



Thanks Derek, should have it tomorrow.

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Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/19 05:37 PM

I was wondering why the odd shape until I got down to the description. My initial thought was geez, that looks like a lot of work to cut and attach all those various angles ...
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/19 06:00 PM

Theyre pretty popular in Africa, doesnt take as much water to keep the plants growing.

The border can be made from a lot of different materials . Ive seen wood, rock/stone, tin, plastic sheets, pallets cinder blocks etc
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/19 06:08 PM

All the landscape timbers were cut in half, holes drilled for rebar. The corner was one timber cut in forths.
Not complicated if you cut them at 45 degrees.
Posted By: CGWBERETTA

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/19 06:20 PM

I have 2 beds, same but my variation. I have 3 layers of cardboard and the top layer from my compost pile. One of my beds, this is the 4th year and the other one, this is 3rd year. They produce a lot of tomatoes and peppers.
Mine are made from cement landscape block.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/19 06:28 PM

worthless
Posted By: CGWBERETTA

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/19 07:41 PM

I don't want to pxxs off anybody, but I can not post pictures. If you will pm your cell # i will get my wife to text to you. I will some from last year and what my beds look like today. Will that work?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/19 12:39 AM

CGWBERETTA's pics


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Posted By: CGWBERETTA

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/19 12:44 AM

Thanks Payne
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/19 12:44 AM

you're welcome
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/19 12:52 AM

Wow. Looks like a lot of work.
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/19 02:58 AM

I really like the natural look very nice looking CG.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/19 11:53 AM

Looks great
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/19 11:58 PM

CG - nice mater TREES !!
Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/19 02:09 AM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
CG - nice mater TREES !!


No joke, those are like the tomatoes in Godfather
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/19 08:52 PM

Have some marble size tomatoes and inch long jalapeos setting. Not yet picture worthy. Maybe next week.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/19 04:05 PM

My potatoes are trekking along about a week ahead from last year. I planted 14 reds last year and KEPT 120 potatoes. We have 17 plants this year. My neighbors will be happy.

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Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/19 10:53 PM

Just planted today, I know Im late but rain is coming in the morning! 6 japs and tomatoes went in today along with crooked neck squash and zucchini. Im not doing anything else this year, to busy.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/19 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by Stevarino
My potatoes are trekking along about a week ahead from last year. I planted 14 reds last year and KEPT 120 potatoes. We have 17 plants this year. My neighbors will be happy.

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Those potatoes are beautiful. You can soon start grubbing a few. They make a great pan fried potatoes dish.



You don't need to use cast iron.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/19 01:42 AM

Send me the recipe.. Ive never grubbed a few at a time..we have always waited for the plant to die and dig them all at once.. I may try to grab some of those early ground breakers..

This was last year.
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/19 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Stevarino
Send me the recipe.. Ive never grubbed a few at a time..we have always waited for the plant to die and dig them all at once.. I may try to grab some of those early ground breakers..



I'll put the recipe on the Recipe forum
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/19 08:09 PM

Peahens tore up my artichokes, so I put them in jail.


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Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/19 03:52 PM

Like a Boy Scout, always prepared.. my parents live about 2 miles north and lost their potatoes to hail last year.. we managed to survive but Im not taking a chance this round..

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Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/19 08:50 PM

Yep went out and protect what I have, probably get nothing but prepared.
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/19 09:22 PM

I only planted one row this year. Zucchini and yellow squash on the end away from my location last year. Zucchini is starting to set.

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This is a clump of 8 tomatoes. A limb got in my way.

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Jalapeo ready to pick when I need it.

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Cucumbers are blooming.

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Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/19 01:58 PM

looking good everyone
Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/19 04:14 PM

Coming along, tomatoes are doing great after these rains

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/19 08:16 PM

You wore your dog out. I really like your setup, very efficient.



Added epsom salt to the tomatoes and pruned them up about a foot from the soil.Need to pull the weeds~hoe on the border.

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Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/19 08:26 PM

What does epsom salt do for tomatoes?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/19 09:18 PM

Makes them taste better and may or may not prevent blossom end rot. Basil is still better for the taste improvement.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/19 10:04 PM

dang, we are really late in getting out tomatoes. When I had time it was way too wet and when it wasn't I didn't have time. Do ya'll think it's too late to plant before the summer heat sets in?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/19 10:08 PM

worth a try imo
Posted By: ChrisG

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/19 12:33 PM

Update:
This one has squash and tomatoes in the front. Bell peppers, jalapenos and eggplants in the middle and tomatoes at the end
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Dill and cilantro on the top and three different types of basil on the bottom
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/19 08:34 PM

Ta da. My first zucchini. I plan to stir fry it with the jalapeo, an onion, salsa, and a couple of yellow squash that I will pick tomorrow. I have baby pickles on the vines and my first tomato is showing a little blush.

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Posted By: TooLow

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/19 08:39 PM

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/19 09:43 PM

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Posted By: jetdad

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/19 11:49 PM

How do you apply the Epsom salt and how much?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/19 10:45 PM

Any of you would like to get away for a week?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/05/19 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by jetdad
How do you apply the Epsom salt and how much?



You can add a tablespoon to a gallon of water and pour it around the root system. I take a tablespoon and spread it around the base then water the plant.
Posted By: jetdad

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/05/19 06:36 PM

Thank you sir. Mine have gotten too much rain the past two weeks. Even though I have them raised they're not looking too good. They were doing great until the heavy downpours.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/05/19 06:40 PM

probably over saturated, just let them dry out and hope they come back soon. I thought I lost my artichokes, three weeks later they look better then ever.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/19 06:33 PM

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Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/19 06:42 PM

That means there is 50 more
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/19 06:47 PM

Checked everyone top to bottom them dumped BT on them. That one sleeps inside the fishes
Posted By: ChrisG

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/19 06:49 PM

I got hit prety hard with the horn worms last year. Looks like I will have to give the garden a good once over this evening.
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/19 09:05 PM

Payne you scared me a little till I remembered you live south of I-10. I will still keep a look out now though. Kill them all!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/19 09:27 PM

I saw the scat and was eeks333 bang, checked every branch on every plant right then & there.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/19 01:19 AM

Long garden is doing well. Dog got into it and screwed up all the fabric. Fuzzy picture. Fail.

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3 of 6 heart of gold cantaloupes

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Dereks H19 Little Leak cucumbers. I think 7 made it. 5 or 6 failed to grow.

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/19 04:18 PM

looks good, who left the gate open?
Posted By: B-radder

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/19 05:34 PM

Gardens are looking good!

Question , I put some marigolds out and now I have huge wholes in the leaves, same with some couple inch tall sunflowers, and my cucumbers . My tomatoes dont show any chewing , nor my pepper plants, or sqiash. I go out there everyday and dont see anything on my plants . Iv been spraying bt , what else can I try?
Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/19 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by Old Rabbit
Payne you scared me a little till I remembered you live south of I-10. I will still keep a look out now though. Kill them all!

I got em early last year here. BT: Directions say mix and use within 24 hours. Anyone who uses it know if that's all the effective life it has?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/19 06:38 PM

It can last up to a week depending on conditions. If it's real sunny it usually only lasts one day. Spray at dusk to get the most out of it.
Posted By: B-radder

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/19 08:40 PM

Iv read that if you leave your container in a dark place you can make a batch in a sprayer that will last longer , so the sun dosent break it down . However, you can read alot of thingsthat aren't true
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/19 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
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I dont have a garden, but get these nasty worms on some vines that grow on dog pen chain link in the summer. Had 6 last summer. They can eat a lot of vegetation in a short amount of time. I read that they can be found easily with a black light at night.
Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/19 12:32 AM

Thanks Payne and Brad. I've been going about a week with it.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/19 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Originally Posted by Payne
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I dont have a garden, but get these nasty worms on some vines that grow on dog pen chain link in the summer. Had 6 last summer. They can eat a lot of vegetation in a short amount of time. I read that they can be found easily with a black light at night.

if that's true, I need to get a black light to find them while tomatoes are in
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/19 08:05 PM

If you spray the plant with water they will start shaking and you can spot them pretty easy
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/19 02:56 AM

This cool weather seems to be slowing down growth.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/19 02:40 PM

https://plantinstructions.com/vegetables/how-to-grow-tomatoes-from-slices/


Pretty cool with heirlooms but more trouble than I would go to.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/19 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Dalee7892
This cool weather seems to be slowing down growth.



My tomatoes are a full two weeks behind last years crop.
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/19 04:10 PM

Same here my tomatoes are slow I was eating BLT's this time last year..
Posted By: Judd

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/19 06:57 PM

I've gotten two jalapenos but so far that's it. Last year we moved and I planted real late...didn't get but a couple of tomatos...I've got more tomatos on the vine today than I saw all of last season. To be fair, last year I was planting right now and my current plants have been in the ground for 2 months.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/19 07:57 PM

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/19 08:48 PM

I'm pretty well loaded on green tomatoes. Here are two of my six. I'll still be giving them away. I gave up making salsa and marinara.

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Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/19 09:09 PM

From what I see this will be my last attempt at growing anything I'm done with it and all over with the excitement from it...
Posted By: Judd

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/19 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by NORML as can be
From what I see this will be my last attempt at growing anything I'm done with it and all over with the excitement from it...


Anything? or just fruits and veggies? rofl



BO - good looking tomatoes!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/19 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by NORML as can be
From what I see this will be my last attempt at growing anything I'm done with it and all over with the excitement from it...


You might want to re-think that. The business section of the morning paper reported that tomato prices are getting ready to double.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/19 03:34 PM

first pick of the year


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Posted By: Ders26

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/19 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
first pick of the year


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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/19 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by takewhatyoucan64
https://plantinstructions.com/vegetables/how-to-grow-tomatoes-from-slices/


Pretty cool with heirlooms but more trouble than I would go to.



I need to give this method a try. Looks like the time frame between the killing heat to replant for fall is about perfect.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/19 11:05 PM

Fingers crossed. My neighbor had a couple of ripe tomatoes today.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/19 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by Ders26
Originally Posted by Payne
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Yep. Something is getting my cucumbers just before they are ready to pick. Picked four tomatoes today. I pick them at first blush.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/19 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by NORML as can be
Same here my tomatoes are slow I was eating BLT's this time last year..



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Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/19 12:41 PM

Does anyone have a good picture of a humming bird feeder set up for bees? And could you tell us what youre filling it with...
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/19 01:30 PM

Get a Shepherds hook, hang feeder in the middle of your garden, put a cup of sugar in the feeder, fill with water, theyll find it
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/19 01:56 PM

Something like this, I'd recommend the one with the foot. A single pole will fall over. You can make them out of rebar or buy one at lowes, home depot or walmart.



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Posted By: Judd

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/19 01:59 PM

Blossom rot on first three tomatoes that started to turn bang Went last nite and got some calcium fertilizer...be interesting to see how it goes. I just might not be cut out for tomatoes roflmao
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/19 02:04 PM

didn't you yankees get a bunch of rain lately?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/19 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by Judd
Blossom rot on first three tomatoes that started to turn bang Went last nite and got some calcium fertilizer...be interesting to see how it goes. I just might not be cut out for tomatoes roflmao



Put wood ash in there next year. You could still get some good tomatoes.
Posted By: Judd

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/19 03:02 PM

Seems like for the last month it's been 3"+ every weekend with showers in between.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/19 03:16 PM

That will do it, you should be all right after it dries out. The calc fert should help
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/19 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Something like this, I'd recommend the one with the foot. A single pole will fall over. You can make them out of rebar or buy one at lowes, home depot or walmart.



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Thanks. This is what I did but so far, its only attracting hummingbirds.. havent seen a bee..
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/19 04:00 PM

They are usually active 9-10 am till 3-4pm.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/19 04:11 PM

Ah, during the working mans hours.. guess thats the issue..
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/19 04:32 PM

Do you use sevin?
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/19 04:48 PM

Like the poison? If so, no, not this year..
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/19 04:59 PM

Yeah, it will kill bees
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/19 02:53 PM

Dug up 212 keepers out of 17 plants.. thats a good year with an average over 12 per plant.. I had plenty of help too!

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/19 02:55 PM

very nice
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/19 03:47 PM

That's one thing I miss about growing potatoes. The neighborhood kids loved to help.
Posted By: Judd

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/19 08:35 PM

Nice haul, he looks like he could be a Dennis the Menace grin
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/19 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by Judd
Nice haul, he looks like he could be a Dennis the Menace grin


Thanks, hes a mess thats for sure
Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/19 11:25 PM

That's a good looking young man and a nice haul of taters!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/19 02:16 PM

This is what I shoot for. BLTs anyone?

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Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/19 12:22 PM

Looks good Bill. Yall are definitely a couple weeks ahead of us up here..
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/19 04:25 PM

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Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/19 06:34 PM

HELP
Squash started good with fruit they just never grew. Now it seems just male flowers no fruit. What should I do?
Have 5 green pepper plants grew 2 foot tall no flowers what should I do?
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/19 08:32 PM

Your squash and peppers are most likely having a calcium issue..

Lots of ways to fix that. If you want to buy in a powder form and not effect your ph, go with bone meal. If you want to raise ph, roll with lime. If you use compost, be sure to add egg shells to it.. Ive heard some folks using actual milk. Just YouTube your issue. Lots of ideas out there.

Oh, and be sure to remove the rotten pieces.. should take 5-7 days
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/19 05:05 PM

First year in a long time that I didn't plant anything. Wishing I had at least planted a couple of tomato plants.

I've got to get out of this slump I'm in, since my Dad died I have stopped doing alot of the things I used to enjoy. Never thought depression could ever affect me but I think I may be wrong. Y'alls gardens are looking great.
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/19 08:52 PM

That's how I feel, hows the fishing on Cedar Creek I was looking at a house with a dock to sit on?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/19 08:57 PM


I'm loaded with tomatoes.

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I brought home a buttermilk chicken sandwich from McDonalds today. It had two little bitty slices of Roma tomatoes. I threw them in the garbage and added a slice that covered the entire sandwich. It's turkey, bacon clubs for the remainder of the week.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/19 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by NORML as can be
That's how I feel, hows the fishing on Cedar Creek I was looking at a house with a dock to sit on?


Fishing has been real good.
Posted By: Judd

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/19 03:34 PM

Starting to get a few tomatoes, jalapenos and serrano peppers.

But my wife spotted this evil bassturd:

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I am a big fan of bees and try to keep the Sevin to a bare minimum...before I drown these plants in Sevin....what else should I try?
Posted By: Cast

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/19 03:55 PM

BT and hand pick them off as you find them.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/19 04:28 PM

You need to kill that hornworm now. If she doesnt want to touch it, flip it off the plant with a stick knife etc & step on it. Make sure you get bt-k. I use dipel dust, you just shake it on.
Posted By: Judd

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/19 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
You need to kill that hornworm now. If she doesn&#146;t want to touch it, flip it off the plant with a stick knife etc & step on it. Make sure you get bt-k. I use dipel dust, you just shake it on.


No worries....it didn't survive much after the picture was taken. Fortunately, I was home and was able to dispatch it.

Thanks for the dipel dust suggestion, will get some and get on the plants this weekend. I haven't seen them on my pepper plants, should I dust them also or a hornworm won't mess with them?

Sorry for the rookie questions but I am a rookie wink
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/19 05:18 PM

You can it wont hurt anything. They usually just hit my tomatoes but I usually have 25-30 plants and thats what they prefer. Spread it out at dusk, sunlight decreases bts potency.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/01/19 02:22 AM

Berries are ripening! Yum!
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Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/01/19 06:59 PM

Berries look good. Mine seem to have stalled about here:
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Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/19 11:18 PM

Noticed weird looking bugs on veggie plants. Looks like a STINK BUG. Are they harmful? How to get rid of?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/19 11:41 PM

can you get a pic?


I like to use lady bugs & praying mantis' for stink bugs, there's also sprays you can use.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/19 11:53 PM

Everything is coming alone nicely.

Tomatoes here

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Mixed veggies and stuff

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Little leaf cucumbers

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Jubilee watermelon. Pretty excited about these.

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1st squash of the year

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Bird or rat/mouse got to my first red tomato despite the rodeo clown scarecrow.

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Beefsteaks

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Figs are coming in strong

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Pears may never do right. They tend to turn brown before they're ready to pick.

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/19 11:54 PM

looks good cman
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/19 12:06 AM

I pick my tomatoes at first blush.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/19 12:16 AM

Do you buy green bananas?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/19 01:32 PM

I plan on wrapping a few of these in newspaper, put them in a brown paper bag, and place it inside of my dark pantry. I've done it in the past and they kept for over a month. They were not as good as vine ripened but better than store bough.

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/19 04:16 PM

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half of those pickles/cucumbers are way too big.
Posted By: Judd

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/19 06:09 PM

Looking good Payne!
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/19 02:26 PM

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Potatoes, tomatoes and eggplant seems to be the only thing we can get going this year. Wind, and hail have been tough on us.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/19 04:10 PM

looks great
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/19 08:32 PM

Payne do you make any wine with those grapes?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/19 08:40 PM

No sir, just eat them. Tito's is my poison.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/19 08:49 PM

clap Tito's is good stuff!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/19 09:04 PM

cheers
Posted By: snake oil

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/19 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
cheers



Are those Mustang grapes?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/19 08:58 PM

flames
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/02/19 01:33 PM

First cantaloupe sighting.

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Posted By: fmrmbmlm

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/02/19 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Chickenman
First cantaloupe sighting.

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Don't count on it yet, had several, now have one.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/05/19 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
I plan on wrapping a few of these in newspaper, put them in a brown paper bag, and place it inside of my dark pantry. I've done it in the past and they kept for over a month. They were not as good as vine ripened but better than store bough.

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Here you go. These have been in the pantry for little over a month. I plan to leave the remaining ones wraped and put them in the refrigerator.

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I left the dripper on a couple of my tomatoes and they took a second growth. Looks as if I will now have tomatoes through July.

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Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/05/19 06:38 PM

bang I'm so over this gardening crap Never again will I mess with it.. Farmer Market or HEB from now on.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/07/19 09:50 PM

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/09/19 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by Chickenman
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Looks great C-Man. Looks like its only you and me. I gave half my garden to my neighbor. He gave it up.

I found a few slicers on his side. Few more days of BLTs for me.

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Posted By: Judd

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/09/19 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by NORML as can be
bang I'm so over this gardening crap Never again will I mess with it.. Farmer Market or HEB from now on.


Me too....my tomatos looked awesome and I couldn't keep the worms and bugs off of them. This was year 2 and I'm done trying to make them work

Peppers are doing awesome....I'll have peppers running out of my ears by next week.

Next year I am going to do peppers but in planters on the back porch and do away with tilling and all the weeding work. Simple and effective, plus I still get my peppers.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/09/19 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by Judd
Originally Posted by NORML as can be
bang I'm so over this gardening crap Never again will I mess with it.. Farmer Market or HEB from now on.


Me too....my tomatos looked awesome and I couldn't keep the worms and bugs off of them. This was year 2 and I'm done trying to make them work

Peppers are doing awesome....I'll have peppers running out of my ears by next week.

Next year I am going to do peppers but in planters on the back porch and do away with tilling and all the weeding work. Simple and effective, plus I still get my peppers.


I could never give it up. It's a way of life for me. My grandpa Evanoff had a vegetable cart. I grew a half acre of tomatoes to help me through my freshman year of college. Got written up in the paper for grafting a tomato onto a potato. My momma sold watermelons. I always imagined myself leaning over a garden hoe when I got old. Maybe even dying there even before reading a book called The Godfather. This is my favorite sub-forum.
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/09/19 11:51 PM

Gardening is good for the soul. Those fresh tomato's are so much better than what you get at the store.

When do we plant the Fall tomato's?
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/10/19 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Judd
Originally Posted by NORML as can be
bang I'm so over this gardening crap Never again will I mess with it.. Farmer Market or HEB from now on.


Me too....my tomatos looked awesome and I couldn't keep the worms and bugs off of them. This was year 2 and I'm done trying to make them work

Peppers are doing awesome....I'll have peppers running out of my ears by next week.

Next year I am going to do peppers but in planters on the back porch and do away with tilling and all the weeding work. Simple and effective, plus I still get my peppers.


I could never give it up. It's a way of life for me. My grandpa Evanoff had a vegetable cart. I grew a half acre of tomatoes to help me through my freshman year of college. Got written up in the paper for grafting a tomato onto a potato. My momma sold watermelons. I always imagined myself leaning over a garden hoe when I got old. Maybe even dying there even before reading a book called The Godfather. This is my favorite sub-forum.

It seems I couldn't grow a mesquite tree.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/10/19 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by Wilhunt
Gardening is good for the soul. Those fresh tomato's are so much better than what you get at the store.

When do we plant the Fall tomato's?

Now for North Texas
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/10/19 03:36 PM

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Posted By: fmrmbmlm

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/10/19 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by Judd
Originally Posted by NORML as can be
bang I'm so over this gardening crap Never again will I mess with it.. Farmer Market or HEB from now on.


Me too....my tomatos looked awesome and I couldn't keep the worms and bugs off of them. This was year 2 and I'm done trying to make them work

Peppers are doing awesome....I'll have peppers running out of my ears by next week.

Next year I am going to do peppers but in planters on the back porch and do away with tilling and all the weeding work. Simple and effective, plus I still get my peppers.

I quit growing in the ground, can't stay bent over anymore. I use several of those 200-250 lb feed tubs, an old rear tractor tire, couple wooden containers built out of left over lumber, all raised off the ground 4-8 in. to keep tree roots out.. I also have a double cast iron kitchen sink on a stand and an old charcoal grill that I put the lid up side down in the bottom. You will be surprised how much easier that is compared to planting and harvesting in the ground. If you have a fence or a trellis you can grow cucumbers.
Posted By: snake oil

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/10/19 08:05 PM

All I can grow anymore are onions. confused2
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/01/19 02:09 PM

I'm not a chart keeper, but this was the best tomato year I remember. Had plenty to share with only six plants. No rot and only one horn worm. No stink bugs.

On the other hand , I just picked my first cucumber.

Giving up on my squash and zucchini next year.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/01/19 03:37 PM

we missed planting in the spring ... when is the right time to plant for a fall garden??? ... mainly tomatoes
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/01/19 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by PMK
we missed planting in the spring ... when is the right time to plant for a fall garden??? ... mainly tomatoes


The local nursery had a billboard touting the time is now. Of course they are in the business of selling tomato plants.

I throw my tomato scraps in a bed on the south side of my house. A couple of volunteers are coming up there.
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/01/19 04:56 PM

Put mine in the ground July 16.
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/12/19 11:37 PM

My fall tomato plants are looking very good but today I noticed a problem. Many of the leaves on the bottom of the plants are starting to wrinkle. What say you master gardeners as to what the problem may be? Thanks!
Posted By: Stub

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/06/19 01:03 PM

Neighbor wanted me to pick his Okra and water them, leaves a little Yellow am I over watering them?
Putting out a lot of Okra.

Two days picking.

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Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/10/19 03:00 PM

Stub that is not much okra for as large as those plants are confused2

I would water less cause okra really likes the heat
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/11/19 01:03 PM

IF I ever get situated somewhere I'm going to buy these for raised beds. I like the looks and different configurations.

https://www.metalgardenbeds.com/
Posted By: B Razorback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/16/19 04:19 AM

Alright I've been wanting to start gardening ever since I was a little kid and did it with my grandma. So now that I'm older and live on my own, I would like to start next spring. I planned on building a couple raised garden beds, but I'm wondering what to plant first. What would y'all recommend? I don't want to do anything too difficult, but I would like to try to do green beans, potatoes, and jalepeno peppers. I would appreciate y'alls input on this!
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/16/19 05:17 AM

Originally Posted by B Razorback
Alright I've been wanting to start gardening ever since I was a little kid and did it with my grandma. So now that I'm older and live on my own, I would like to start next spring. I planned on building a couple raised garden beds, but I'm wondering what to plant first. What would y'all recommend? I don't want to do anything too difficult, but I would like to try to do green beans, potatoes, and jalepeno peppers. I would appreciate y'alls input on this!


All of those are easy to grow. Jalapeno peppers will grow well. I found not to plant Jalapeno plants too early in the spring while it is still cool or it can stunt the plants. Then be sure and water them often. If not watered often enough the peppers can get really hot. I don't grow potatoes because they are so cheap to buy at the store. Same with Onions. It's just not cost effective and the store bought taste just as good on those as the home grown ones IMHO. I like to plant vegetables and varieties of vegetables that are either expensive at the store or just don't taste as well from the store. Cucumbers grow like weeds, cost way too much for what they are, and taste so much better home grown than store bought. Tomatoes fall into this as well. No garden should be without tomatoes. Cherry and yellow pear tomatoes are a family favorite snack at my house when I grow them.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/16/19 12:38 PM

If I grew just one crop it would be slicer tomatoes.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/16/19 10:23 PM

we started off with a small raised bed, 4' x '8 using Home Depot landscape timber (~$3 each) by 4 high, gave us about 12" depth. I was lazy and just had HD cut in half while there and bought a box of 4" deck screws. Overlap corners and this goes together in no time. Lay down a layer or two of garden cloth, fill with garden soil and you are ready. We usually plant 4-5 slicer size and 2-4 cherry/grape tomato plants. We dug around each plant there to water, then made trenches between all the plants so laying a water hose in one trench would water all the plants. Pretty easy to keep as long as you water and keep an eye out for cut worms. We have tried straight neck & crooked neck yellow squash & zucchini but usually don't make or we overlook and they rot on the bottom. We have also put in jalapeno & hot banana peppers (but I'm the only one that eats them). Pretty simple set up and easy to maintain for the most part. Each spring I clean out the old plants, and use a spade to break up the soil, usually add a little more fresh garden soil to blend in.

another idea we have had success with is to find a supply of the empty cattle molasses tubs (~2' diameter x 18"-24" tall)..., put empty aluminum cans, water bottles with lids on, larger rocks (for better drainage) and drill about 4-6 1/4 inch holes on the sides close to the bottom, fill with garden soil and plant away. you can actually move there to different locations depending on sun/shade once you get stuff planted. We used to have 6-8 of these lined up with tomatoes in most, peppers in another 1-2. just lined up along the sidewalk. Once they started to bear, we would cover in netting to keep the birds and squirrels from taking their portion but you have to keep removing the netting to find cut worms usually.

this is the first year in about 8 years we didn't plant tomatoes mainly due to lack of time and way too wet in the spring to get the beds prepared and planted when the timing was right. It's fun to watch how well they produce and they are much better than store bought.
Posted By: B Razorback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/17/19 03:42 AM

How hard/what type of green beans should I grow and when should I plant? It's a little cooler here in Arkansas than in the Great State.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/17/19 08:18 PM

I just tilled up my garden. I don't plan to plant a fall garden but I'll have volunteer cilantro coming up all fall and winter.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/18/19 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by B Razorback
How hard/what type of green beans should I grow and when should I plant? It's a little cooler here in Arkansas than in the Great State.

spring snap beans plant 1-1.5 inch deep after the beginning of the frost free period, fall crop planted early enough in the summer for harvest prior to first freeze. no clue of type ... both of my grand mothers had large gardens with several rows of green beans & black eyed peas both spring and fall ... just takes a bunch of space to create enough to make it worth while in my opinion
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/25/19 05:49 PM

Just saw some of my volunteer cilantro breaking the crust.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/10/19 10:14 PM

Have got an infestation of white flies on my fall tomatoes. Never had these before. Any control ideas? shocked
Posted By: huck18

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/11/19 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
Have got an infestation of white flies on my fall tomatoes. Never had these before. Any control ideas? shocked



Same, just saw them yesterday.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/12/19 01:53 PM

There is a three-in-one organic garden spray available for white flies and another insects.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/25/19 02:10 PM

Time for picking these in N.Texas!
Got some dandies:
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/25/19 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Time for picking these in N.Texas!
Got some dandies:
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Best year I remember. Prefer the grafted ones if I had to shell them myself. Natives shelled.
Posted By: MikeC

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/27/19 10:03 PM

We have a lot hitting the ground but I haven't started picking any up yet. Our Rottweiler eats a lot of them.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/27/19 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by MikeC
We have a lot hitting the ground but I haven't started picking any up yet. Our Rottweiler eats a lot of them.


Had a few pointers over the years that did that. Never saw any of the hulls in the stool.

Quail hunting up near the red river several years ago found quail near some native trees. Later found that deer were cracking them. We call it a mast year. Do they still call a good acorn year a mast year?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/18/19 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Peahens tore up my artichokes, so I put them in jail.


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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/28/19 04:14 PM

Duh. Cathy brought me some cilantro seeds for Christmas.

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I had not planned to put in any tubers this year but a neighbor gave me a dozen onion sets that he had leftover. I punched them in the ground with my index finger. They are now taking root.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/20 01:20 AM

Considering doing green beans this year. Already have a pound of seeds/beans. Anything to consider before pulling the trigger?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/20 01:31 AM

Originally Posted by Chickenman
Considering doing green beans this year. Already have a pound of seeds/beans. Anything to consider before pulling the trigger?



I no longer grow them but they were bullet proof when I did.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/20 04:21 PM

First 100 or so have been sown. Some are for friends/family. 50 or so more to go.

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/20 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by Chickenman
First 100 or so have been sown. Some are for friends/family. 50 or so more to go.

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I just friended you. Time and place to pick them up? confused2
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/20 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Time for picking these in N.Texas!
Got some dandies:
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Dayum. Impressive
Posted By: Cast

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/20 08:31 PM

You got any unshelled pecans to sell?
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/20 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Time for picking these in N.Texas!
Got some dandies:
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Dayum. Impressive

Small hands. bolt
Posted By: B-radder

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/03/20 01:12 AM

Cast , I live by you and we have a ton that the harvesters missed. PM me if you want some (not unshelled)
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/03/20 12:41 PM

I actually bought some tomato seeds and potting soil and Styrofoam cups.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/03/20 01:28 PM

giddyup
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/03/20 07:16 PM

just started cold , moist stratifying seeds. I forgot about these seeds . running out time
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/20 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
just started cold , moist stratifying seeds. I forgot about these seeds . running out time



Never too late. I've had a few volunteers come up after my firs plants were producing.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/20 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Tin Head
just started cold , moist stratifying seeds. I forgot about these seeds . running out time



Never too late. I've had a few volunteers come up after my firs plants were producing.


Just took a peek at the 10 day weather forecast. Plan to put in a half dozen tomato plants next weekend if I see another 10 forecast with lows above 40°.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/15/20 11:52 PM

PSA

Clean out your fireplace or your burn pile and spread the wood ash on your tomato row to prevent blossom end rot. Works for me.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/17/20 12:30 AM

Made up my tomato hills today. Plan to put in six tomorrow. Like to have the first ripe tomatoes.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/19/20 02:17 AM

I got one of the gardens turned, rowed, and covered before the next wave of weather. Feels good.

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Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/19/20 02:23 AM

clap banana2
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/19/20 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
PSA

Clean out your fireplace or your burn pile and spread the wood ash on your tomato row to prevent blossom end rot. Works for me.

Blossom end rot is caused by a calcium deficiency. The ash your adding sounds like its moving the PH scale of the soil and that makes the calcium available for the maters. To much ash and you will lock it out again.
Posted By: soooo

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/19/20 12:31 PM

Crush egg shells and put them in a jar. Cover with vinegar for a few hours to make the calcium available to plants.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/19/20 01:02 PM

Got milk.............50 50 mix with water. Ends that calcium problem.

https://balconygardenweb.com/milk-uses-in-the-garden/
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/19/20 02:02 PM

The feed store once sold lime in small bags. I used that to prevent blossom end rot for several years. It worked. The store closed. The following year the rot returned. A neighbor told me to try wood ash from my fire place or burn pile. It worked. Been using it ever since.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/19/20 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
Blossom end rot is caused by a calcium deficiency...


I'm using Alfalfa meal or pellets around tomato stems. Cheap and easy.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/19/20 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
The feed store once sold lime in small bags. I used that to prevent blossom end rot for several years. It worked. The store closed. The following year the rot returned. A neighbor told me to try wood ash from my fire place or burn pile. It worked. Been using it ever since.

Sounds like you guys have the soil worked out in your area. Ash, Calcitic and dolomite lime all raise the soils PH, ash probably the weaker of them. Dolomite lime is mainly magnesium so you need to know what lime your working with. IMO it sounds like soil ph is the issue there and not necessarily calcium. I would not just go throwing ph modifiers in the soil , Ive done that in the past . If you want you can fallow this link to get your soil analyzed, very cheap, and they will tell you where your soil is at and what you need to add. http://soiltesting.tamu.edu/

To make things more complicated I have ran in to major calcium deficiencies with large amounts of rain , even though the soil has the calcium. With the soil in the correct PH range I use gypsum.
Folks also use some match ends for sulphur and epsom salt for magnesium. Ill use magnesium every couple weeks. Works well for peppers and tomatoes. I wont be doing much this year since I have a new 100lb puppy. Hes killed a couple hundred dollars worth of plants this winter, haha. Going to work on fencing in the areas.
trout
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/19/20 07:45 PM

any one have a connection for cow crap? I would prefer cows not used for milk or dairy farms , the less steroids and herbicides in the field the better. Have shovel will travel.About 2 hrs around dfw. Not looking for store bought stuff.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/20/20 06:09 PM

No way I'm putting these six babies out in my cold wet garden with another cold front coming next week

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Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/20/20 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
any one have a connection for cow crap? I would prefer cows not used for milk or dairy farms , the less steroids and herbicides in the field the better. Have shovel will travel.About 2 hrs around dfw. Not looking for store bought stuff.

appears to be a lot of it in the off topic section lately, just not sure how you shovel it for your garden loser8
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/20/20 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
any one have a connection for cow crap? I would prefer cows not used for milk or dairy farms , the less steroids and herbicides in the field the better. Have shovel will travel.About 2 hrs around dfw. Not looking for store bought stuff.



I live in horse country. That mighty be better for you. Theirs is mixed with wood shavings. They stack it up and let it compost. One near me loaded my pickup bed with a front in loader.
Posted By: B-radder

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/24/20 05:11 PM

Looking good everyone . I spent the last two days taking down a 30x100 high tunnel I got for a steal off market place . 
Now I'm researching which direction I want it facing, site prep etc. I will take any advice you guys have. I will also follow up with you guys on this project.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/20 04:54 PM

Soil has been turned, ph levels adjusted, and potatoes planted. Everything else will have to wait another 30 days or so before we can plant. Mid 30s here this morning
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/20 06:31 PM

I plan to put my tomatoes in Saturday.
Posted By: huck18

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/20 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
any one have a connection for cow crap? I would prefer cows not used for milk or dairy farms , the less steroids and herbicides in the field the better. Have shovel will travel.About 2 hrs around dfw. Not looking for store bought stuff.



I'll let you come shovel cow crap off my farm for a couple cases of beer.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/20 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by huck18
Originally Posted by Tin Head
any one have a connection for cow crap? I would prefer cows not used for milk or dairy farms , the less steroids and herbicides in the field the better. Have shovel will travel.About 2 hrs around dfw. Not looking for store bought stuff.



I'll let you come shovel cow crap off my farm for a couple cases of beer.

Thanks but I dont drink. grin
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/20 02:35 AM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
any one have a connection for cow crap? I would prefer cows not used for milk or dairy farms , the less steroids and herbicides in the field the better. Have shovel will travel.About 2 hrs around dfw. Not looking for store bought stuff.

If we weren't so far apart we could get ya some, with 33 cows there's a plenty.
Posted By: B-radder

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/20 02:45 AM

I have as much cow stuff as you want . Bring a 18 wheeler
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/20 12:22 AM

The forecast low tonight is 38° and 42° for Friday night. Long warming period after that. Plan to get ER done Saturday. Its been too long. Got a hankering for home grown tomatoes.
Posted By: huck18

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/20 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
Originally Posted by huck18
Originally Posted by Tin Head
any one have a connection for cow crap? I would prefer cows not used for milk or dairy farms , the less steroids and herbicides in the field the better. Have shovel will travel.About 2 hrs around dfw. Not looking for store bought stuff.



I'll let you come shovel cow crap off my farm for a couple cases of beer.

Thanks but I dont drink. grin



I wasn't going to offer you one anyway. cheers
Posted By: huck18

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/20 02:46 PM

Have any of yall ever grown chestnut trees?
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/20 08:27 PM

I’m a big fan of chest nuts!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/29/20 04:29 PM

BLTs on the way. Put all six in the ground a few minutes ago. Felt great to get a little dirt under my fingernails and to work up a little sweat. My neighbor is on a walker. I went ahead and transplanted six tomatoes and three bell peppers for him. I plan to wait a couple more weeks before I put in my peppers.

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This is old news but I went ahead and took the picture while I was out there. Onions are starting to bulb and cilantro is abundant.

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Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/29/20 11:32 PM

2nd spot is done.

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Asparagus it's actually growing! We'll see if I can keep it alive.

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/29/20 11:56 PM

I want to get some of those covers for my flower beads. What are they called and where do I get them.

Also, good luck on the asparagus. It won't produce in my area.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/20 12:51 AM

Its hard for me to justify high dollar garden fabric so I go with cheaper WalMart 3x50' @ $4 a roll. So far, is working pretty good. Store sell the stuff upwards of $20 a roll for the "quality" fabric.
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/20 01:27 AM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
any one have a connection for cow crap? I would prefer cows not used for milk or dairy farms , the less steroids and herbicides in the field the better. Have shovel will travel.About 2 hrs around dfw. Not looking for store bought stuff.



Steroids and herbicides? Please tell me more.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/20 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by Cow_doc.308
Originally Posted by Tin Head
any one have a connection for cow crap? I would prefer cows not used for milk or dairy farms , the less steroids and herbicides in the field the better. Have shovel will travel.About 2 hrs around dfw. Not looking for store bought stuff.



Steroids and herbicides? Please tell me more.


Just put a fish under each plant.
cheers
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/20 03:35 AM

Originally Posted by Cow_doc.308
Originally Posted by Tin Head
any one have a connection for cow crap? I would prefer cows not used for milk or dairy farms , the less steroids and herbicides in the field the better. Have shovel will travel.About 2 hrs around dfw. Not looking for store bought stuff.



Steroids and herbicides? Please tell me more.

no diary farms or production, hell your the doc. hammer
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/20 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
Originally Posted by Cow_doc.308
Originally Posted by Tin Head
any one have a connection for cow crap? I would prefer cows not used for milk or dairy farms , the less steroids and herbicides in the field the better. Have shovel will travel.About 2 hrs around dfw. Not looking for store bought stuff.



Steroids and herbicides? Please tell me more.

no diary farms or production, hell your the doc. hammer



You’re right. I am. And I think your concerns about dairy manure and steroids are misplaced. I spent most of the night awake with babies and I’m too tired to get into the whys.

Herbicides are also less of a concern than you think, but that is not my area of expertise.
Posted By: Ders26

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/20 03:48 PM

I tilled up my garden this week. I doubt I plant for another few weeks.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/20 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by Ders26
I tilled up my garden this week. I doubt I plant for another few weeks.


Location?
Posted By: Ders26

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/20 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Ders26
I tilled up my garden this week. I doubt I plant for another few weeks.


Location?

Corsicana
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/20 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by Ders26
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Ders26
I tilled up my garden this week. I doubt I plant for another few weeks.


Location?

Corsicana


Payne has a little chart. Don't know why he won't post it up.
Posted By: topwater13

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/20 02:34 PM

Best advice in North Texas is plant early and PLAN to cover. If tomatoes are your thing, it gets too hot too fast for much of a growing season. They all come in at once so prepare to can.
If anyone knows of a good tomato that sets in hot weather let me know.
I use these below and have tomatoes earlier than anyone around here.

https://www.gardeners.com/buy/pop-u...Luwc0QC1St_1YGT3WnU9Q2naZyRoCCcgQAvD_BwE
Posted By: Ders26

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/20 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Ders26
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Ders26
I tilled up my garden this week. I doubt I plant for another few weeks.


Location?

Corsicana


Payne has a little chart. Don't know why he won't post it up.

I have always (in my 4 years of gardening) planted most my crops the weekend after March 15th. I plan to plant this year the weekend of the 21st. That is how my grandfather said he always did it and it seemed to work out well for him for many years.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/20 03:30 PM

Different strokes for different folks. I grew up on a cotton farm in Arkansas. There was always a celebration when the first bale of cotton came to the gin. I like to be the first to have ripe tomatoes.

I understand those gardeners who grow their own seedlings. They become part of the family.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/20 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by topwater13
Best advice in North Texas is plant early and PLAN to cover. If tomatoes are your thing, it gets too hot too fast for much of a growing season. They all come in at once so prepare to can.
If anyone knows of a good tomato that sets in hot weather let me know.
I use these below and have tomatoes earlier than anyone around here.

https://www.gardeners.com/buy/pop-u...Luwc0QC1St_1YGT3WnU9Q2naZyRoCCcgQAvD_BwE

try these , I bought the seeds from a seller in Texas but you would have to search since I forget the sellers name.
https://www.victoryseeds.com/tomato_porter.html
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/20 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Ders26

I have always (in my 4 years of gardening) planted most my crops the weekend after March 15th. I plan to plant this year the weekend of the 21st. That is how my grandfather said he always did it and it seemed to work out well for him for many years.

like ox and the other guy said . Plant now and prepare to cover, plant at the time you gave and you SHOULD be safe. Ive done both and I like to keep it simple. Some times you can get lucky and plant early with out having to cover at all but that is a gamble you will have to make. For all the extra effort in planting early I did not see much advantage. Dont forget you can get some maters after the Texas summer also . IMO for Texas and tomatoes, is to can.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/20 11:59 PM

My AC has been cycling all day. Rain and a little cool-dawn in the forecast but nothing below 45°.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/20 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
My AC has been cycling all day. Rain and a little cool-dawn in the forecast but nothing below 45°.

your south of me and I assume you are in the clear.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/20 02:57 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Ders26
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Ders26
I tilled up my garden this week. I doubt I plant for another few weeks.


Location?

Corsicana


Payne has a little chart. Don't know why he won't post it up.

Do you mean something like this? This is for North Texas but
https://www.nhg.com/guides/north-texas-vegetable-planting-dates/

https://www.farmersalmanac.com/calendar/gardening/

I like this one also , jsut punch in your zip
https://www.almanac.com/gardening/planting-calendar/zipcode/75180
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/20 04:21 AM

There's a small (probably 15x15ft) where when we had pigs they would come up and eat and root around and poop.
That's been about 3 years ago. I might try doing some tomatoes...I like them best out of most things you can plant....
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/20 05:09 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
There's a small (probably 15x15ft) where when we had pigs they would come up and eat and root around and poop.
That's been about 3 years ago. I might try doing some tomatoes...I like them best out of most things you can plant....

That space could be iffy due to the pigs and bacteria, I dont know just saying. I know your not supposed to use pig crap in the garden . Three years could be long enough but if you think not you could cover with black plastic to let the summer heat "bake" the soil and kill most pathogens. If you dont think the area is suitable yet you can always do some determinate tomatoes in a containers or in a smaller area. Ive even seen some labeled patio tomato.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/20 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
Originally Posted by TCM3
There's a small (probably 15x15ft) where when we had pigs they would come up and eat and root around and poop.
That's been about 3 years ago. I might try doing some tomatoes...I like them best out of most things you can plant....

That space could be iffy due to the pigs and bacteria, I dont know just saying. I know your not supposed to use pig crap in the garden . Three years could be long enough but if you think not you could cover with black plastic to let the summer heat "bake" the soil and kill most pathogens. If you dont think the area is suitable yet you can always do some determinate tomatoes in a containers or in a smaller area. Ive even seen some labeled patio tomato.

Ohhh, I didn't know you aren't supposed to use pig poo in a garden.... Never done it, but good to know.
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Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/20 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Originally Posted by Tin Head
Originally Posted by TCM3
There's a small (probably 15x15ft) where when we had pigs they would come up and eat and root around and poop.
That's been about 3 years ago. I might try doing some tomatoes...I like them best out of most things you can plant....

That space could be iffy due to the pigs and bacteria, I dont know just saying. I know your not supposed to use pig crap in the garden . Three years could be long enough but if you think not you could cover with black plastic to let the summer heat "bake" the soil and kill most pathogens. If you dont think the area is suitable yet you can always do some determinate tomatoes in a containers or in a smaller area. Ive even seen some labeled patio tomato.

Ohhh, I didn't know you aren't supposed to use pig poo in a garden.... Never done it, but good to know.
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dont know if you looking to go organic but if so this stuff isnt bad.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000VZRV4C/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/20 06:34 PM

Got the garden almost finished. Still waiting on eggplant to be ready for transplant and mint for my tea. So far I got 4 types of tomatoes, lots of herbs, jalapenos, bell peppers, cucumber, squash, zucchini, ghost pepper.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/20 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
Got the garden almost finished. Still waiting on eggplant to be ready for transplant and mint for my tea. So far I got 4 types of tomatoes, lots of herbs, jalapenos, bell peppers, cucumber, squash, zucchini, ghost pepper.


You are ahead of me. I only have tomatoes, onions, and of coarse my volunteer cilantro.

Maybe next week.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/20 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
Got the garden almost finished. Still waiting on eggplant to be ready for transplant and mint for my tea. So far I got 4 types of tomatoes, lots of herbs, jalapenos, bell peppers, cucumber, squash, zucchini, ghost pepper.

eggplants or some that like the heat. Watch your mint since its one of the most invasive plants there is, it will take over EVERYTHING. I had a nice sized container of mint last year and it just never produced enough so this year I triple the growing size. Its very easy to grown. Plus the dangd ol dog will leave it alone. clap
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/20 07:50 PM

Here a vid on canning tomatoes . This guys from italy and lives some where up north.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/20 09:41 PM

I no longer process or can tomatoess.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/20 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
I no longer process or can tomatoess.

why , if you dont mind. To time consuming? Got sick? I like turtles?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/20 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
Originally Posted by bill oxner
I no longer process or can tomatoess.

why , if you dont mind. To time consuming? Got sick? I like turtles?



Live alone. I can buy a can of stewed tomatoes for under a dollar. Found HEB salsa. Better than I can make. Same with marinara.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/20 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Tin Head
Originally Posted by bill oxner
I no longer process or can tomatoess.

why , if you dont mind. To time consuming? Got sick? I like turtles?



Live alone. I can buy a can of stewed tomatoes for under a dollar. Found HEB salsa. Better than I can make. Same with marinara.

Ok , thanks for the input. I want to can some myself.
Posted By: Ders26

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/20 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Tin Head
Originally Posted by bill oxner
I no longer process or can tomatoess.

why , if you dont mind. To time consuming? Got sick? I like turtles?



Live alone. I can buy a can of stewed tomatoes for under a dollar. Found HEB salsa. Better than I can make. Same with marinara.

Ok , thanks for the input. I want to can some myself.

Most of my tomatoes go to salsa. Some go to spaghetti sauce and I eat the rest. This year I decided to plant tomatillos and hoping to make a good verde. I pickle all of my cucumbers and most of my jalapenos. The peppers that get big enough, I use for poppers.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/20 12:21 AM

The forecast is for highs of 80° several days next week. I'm going all in tomorrow.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/20 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
The forecast is for highs of 80° several days next week. I'm going all in tomorrow.

woot
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/20 03:40 PM

I picked up a yard of garden soil and a half yard of garden quality compose over the weekend. I have the garden all prepped for planting soon, just ran out of time over the weekend.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/20 04:57 PM

I just put my bell pepper and cucumber plants in. I'm done.
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/20 05:34 PM

Good luck it's going to be the Farmers Market for me, I'm done too..
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/20 11:05 PM

Are the eggplants ready to be planted in Texas?
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/20 01:43 AM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
Are the eggplants ready to be planted in Texas?

I believe so but you should check some of the links I posted above. Texas is a big state and what works in Dallas is not the same in San Antonio .
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/20 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
Are the eggplants ready to be planted in Texas?

I believe so but you should check some of the links I posted above. Texas is a big state and what works in Dallas is not the same in San Antonio .



Go for it. They produce till thanksgiving. Love eggplant Parmesan.

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Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/20 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by topwater13
Best advice in North Texas is plant early and PLAN to cover. If tomatoes are your thing, it gets too hot too fast for much of a growing season. They all come in at once so prepare to can.
If anyone knows of a good tomato that sets in hot weather let me know.
I use these below and have tomatoes earlier than anyone around here.

https://www.gardeners.com/buy/pop-u...Luwc0QC1St_1YGT3WnU9Q2naZyRoCCcgQAvD_BwE


Had not seen those. I like it! Thanks for sharing
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/20 11:38 PM

The high today was 84°. I have little bitty tomatoes.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/20 12:21 AM

Had a little bit of the magic water to place on my garden. Like magic my plants are coming back to life. The magic water is the spring rain water, haha. I had a pepper plant that should not have lasted the winter outside showing signs of life. Same with two other different plants that were gone. They were , what I thought was dead at the end of the year. Now they are showing signs of leaves coming out. This spurt of rain has kicked these plants back off. Amazing.....
Posted By: timbertoes

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/20 08:45 AM

The rain is discouraging. I had hoped to till some of the backyard and mix in the compost etc. On the order of 12 to 16' wide by 20' or so long

I just cannot imagine a tiller doing any good in the mud...
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/20 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by timbertoes
The rain is discouraging. I had hoped to till some of the backyard and mix in the compost etc. On the order of 12 to 16' wide by 20' or so long

I just cannot imagine a tiller doing any good in the mud...



Takes mine two days to dry out.
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/20 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
Had a little bit of the magic water to place on my garden. Like magic my plants are coming back to life. The magic water is the spring rain water, haha. I had a pepper plant that should not have lasted the winter outside showing signs of life. Same with two other different plants that were gone. They were , what I thought was dead at the end of the year. Now they are showing signs of leaves coming out. This spurt of rain has kicked these plants back off. Amazing.....


They have these new inventions now called a water hose,faucets,city water supply.You should look into it.Your plants will thank you.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/20 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by timbertoes
The rain is discouraging. I had hoped to till some of the backyard and mix in the compost etc. On the order of 12 to 16' wide by 20' or so long

I just cannot imagine a tiller doing any good in the mud...

never till wet soil
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/20 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by swampthang
Originally Posted by Tin Head
Had a little bit of the magic water to place on my garden. Like magic my plants are coming back to life. The magic water is the spring rain water, haha. I had a pepper plant that should not have lasted the winter outside showing signs of life. Same with two other different plants that were gone. They were , what I thought was dead at the end of the year. Now they are showing signs of leaves coming out. This spurt of rain has kicked these plants back off. Amazing.....


They have these new inventions now called a water hose,faucets,city water supply.You should look into it.Your plants will thank you.

you missed it
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/20 09:32 PM

Droppers or soaker hose does best for me.
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/20 09:57 PM

I put my eggplant in the ground today and spearmint in a pot. I'm done for the season. Now for the fun. Tomato plants already getting huge and starting to flower.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/20 10:10 PM

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Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/20 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
Originally Posted by swampthang
Originally Posted by Tin Head
Had a little bit of the magic water to place on my garden. Like magic my plants are coming back to life. The magic water is the spring rain water, haha. I had a pepper plant that should not have lasted the winter outside showing signs of life. Same with two other different plants that were gone. They were , what I thought was dead at the end of the year. Now they are showing signs of leaves coming out. This spurt of rain has kicked these plants back off. Amazing.....


They have these new inventions now called a water hose,faucets,city water supply.You should look into it.Your plants will thank you.

you missed it


Missed what? You said you were waiting for and expecting mother nature to do your watering. That's stupid. No wonder your plants were almost dead.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/20 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by swampthang
Originally Posted by Tin Head
Originally Posted by swampthang
Originally Posted by Tin Head
Had a little bit of the magic water to place on my garden. Like magic my plants are coming back to life. The magic water is the spring rain water, haha. I had a pepper plant that should not have lasted the winter outside showing signs of life. Same with two other different plants that were gone. They were , what I thought was dead at the end of the year. Now they are showing signs of leaves coming out. This spurt of rain has kicked these plants back off. Amazing.....


They have these new inventions now called a water hose,faucets,city water supply.You should look into it.Your plants will thank you.

you missed it


Missed what? You said you were waiting for and expecting mother nature to do your watering. That's stupid. No wonder your plants were almost dead.

Son, your reading comprehension sucks . Also sounds like your needing attention when you have to troll in a gardening thread. roflmao trout
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/20 01:31 AM

Ok my reading comprehension sucks,now tell me what I "missed"?
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/20 03:49 PM

So if I want to grow a couple tomato plants in containers, can I use bagged soil? If so, what type?
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/20 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
So if I want to grow a couple tomato plants in containers, can I use bagged soil? If so, what type?

make sure you get a potting soil. You will also need some extra perlite to add to it. The potting soil is formulated against compaction but is still to heavy, lighten it up with the perlite and you will be good to go. For a new person Id go with miracle grow. I like organics myself but theres no instant gratification with organics and can be difficult to get the results you want.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/20 05:37 PM

Do the tomatoes need all day full sun, or should they be in shade for afternoon heat? Also, how many per container, what size container? I’m thinking one plant per 5 gal container.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/20 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Do the tomatoes need all day full sun, or should they be in shade for afternoon heat? Also, how many per container, what size container? I’m thinking one plant per 5 gal container.

Depending on determinate or indeterminate will dictate the size. Determinate means the it will get to a smaller size , indeterminate means it will vine as long as you let it. Interditermanate will need a 5g bucket minimum , remember a black bucket will collect heat in the summer. Spring and early summer they will need full sun, more so morning sun. In summer heat they would need some shade but will also stop producing because of temps. They will start putting out again at the end of summer, but not much, when the heat tapers off.
dont forget about eggplants also . I believe the are the same family but they love the summer heat. They do great as a filler for a meal, they will extend the meal.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/20 07:03 PM

What about the 5 gallon pickle buckets from firehouse subs? Will the pickle juice residue harm the tomato plant?
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/20 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
What about the 5 gallon pickle buckets from firehouse subs? Will the pickle juice residue harm the tomato plant?
It shouldnt , jsut wash out as best you can. If they are clear you will need to paint them to block the sun out . YOU will need to drill enough holes for proper drainage.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/20 07:47 PM

Thanks Tin Head. The buckets are red.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/20 07:04 PM

Bought 2 of these this morning. Got them out soaking up some rain water in what I hope is a deer proof fenced in area
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Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/20 02:32 AM

I'm going nuts. I look at my plants 10 times a day and they are all healthy and doing great but I want some production. It's like watching a pot of water and waiting for it to boil.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/20 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
I'm going nuts. I look at my plants 10 times a day and they are all healthy and doing great but I want some production. It's like watching a pot of water and waiting for it to boil.
and before you know it BOOM.....
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/20 02:48 AM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
I'm going nuts. I look at my plants 10 times a day and they are all healthy and doing great but I want some production. It's like watching a pot of water and waiting for it to boil.

Like watching grass grow. You blink and it's time to mow.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/20 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Dalee7892
Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
I'm going nuts. I look at my plants 10 times a day and they are all healthy and doing great but I want some production. It's like watching a pot of water and waiting for it to boil.

Like watching grass grow. You blink and it's time to mow.


Words from my mouth.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/20 07:02 PM

Everything is in the ground

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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/20 07:56 PM

Did a little trimming on the bottoms of these today. I’ve got a couple maters already!
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/20 09:06 PM

Dang you. I like to be first.
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/20 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Dang you. I like to be first.

Thought you had babies coming along.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/20 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by Chickenman
Everything is in the ground

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Who's that handsome feller in the first pic roflmao
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/20 12:28 AM

My t'maters still have a ways to go. They're about 5" tall , ,,,,,,, I'll be planting the summer squash any day now.
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Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/20 02:39 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
My t'maters still have a ways to go. They're about 5" tall , ,,,,,,, I'll be planting the summer squash any day now.
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Cut off any plant leaves that are touching the ground. As it grows , try and cut off any leaves within a foot from the ground. This will greatly cut down on any leaf or fungal diseases coming up from the ground. Also water at the base and not the plant. If you spray the entire plant with water ,its said its best to do it in the morning . This quickly dries off the plant with the daytime sun . I use soaker hoses but will hit the plants with a strong stream of water once a week to knock the pest off.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/20 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Dang you. I like to be first.


Beginners luck Bill.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/20 09:08 PM

for those that are interested. There are simpler/cheaper ways to do this but you get the idea. Looks to be very water efficient.

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/20 04:18 PM

Finally. I'm no longer embarrassed . There are 3 more tomatoes behind this one making it a clump of 4. I have a total of 6 plants.

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Look. A little bitty bell pepper. There are several.

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My cucumbers are starting to run.

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Onions are cracking the ground.

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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/20 04:30 PM

My ‘maters are still in the little plastic containers roflmao
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/20 10:39 PM

youre way ahead of me looks good!
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/20 10:40 PM

By the photos it looks like we are off to the races. Im like bullfrog , still some in containers. scared
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/20 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
By the photos it looks like we are off to the races. Im like bullfrog , still some in containers. scared



I cheat. I buy the started plants. Its not about the money. Its because I get an attachment to the ones I start myself. They become my babies.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/20 03:05 AM

I’ve got 2 container tomato plants. One looks nice and healthy, the other has leave that are droopy. Is this normal? They are both producing tomatoes. I gave them both a big drink of miracle grow this morning, they had just dried out from the rain last weekend.
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Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/20 03:17 AM

id give it a couple days and see if it corrects itself. What fert are you using. link? Are the plants the same type? Could be as simple as a little weather stress.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/20 09:28 PM

The tags said they were the same type plant. Wait and see.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/20 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
Originally Posted by TCM3
My t'maters still have a ways to go. They're about 5" tall , ,,,,,,, I'll be planting the summer squash any day now.
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Cut off any plant leaves that are touching the ground. As it grows , try and cut off any leaves within a foot from the ground. This will greatly cut down on any leaf or fungal diseases coming up from the ground. Also water at the base and not the plant. If you spray the entire plant with water ,its said its best to do it in the morning . This quickly dries off the plant with the daytime sun . I use soaker hoses but will hit the plants with a strong stream of water once a week to knock the pest off.

Thanks for the tips! Will do.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/20 03:46 PM

My yellow crook neck squash is starting up. I've got 3 plants sprouting in the garden, these 2 I put the seeds in old tomato pots for the heck of it...
Love me some squash food
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Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/20 04:09 PM

watch those catepillars . That looks similar to a cutworm. They call them cut worms because they will cut your plant down and kill it.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/20 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
watch those catepillars . That looks similar to a cutworm. They call them cut worms because they will cut your plant down and kill it.

bang I didn't even see that caterpillar sitting there
Thanks for the info
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/20 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Originally Posted by Tin Head
watch those catepillars . That looks similar to a cutworm. They call them cut worms because they will cut your plant down and kill it.

bang I didn't even see that caterpillar sitting there
Thanks for the info

yeup , built it and they will come. If your concerned you could put a small cup around the base or even wrap with tin foil.
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/20 08:57 PM

cut worm will wrap around the stalk just below the soil level and squeeze it to death then eat it. put a 16 penny nail in the ground next to the stalk, cant squeeze the nail to death. that's what an old timer told me about mater plants years ago
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/02/20 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
watch those catepillars . That looks similar to a cutworm. They call them cut worms because they will cut your plant down and kill it.


Good eye Tin Head
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/02/20 01:33 AM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
Originally Posted by Tin Head
watch those catepillars . That looks similar to a cutworm. They call them cut worms because they will cut your plant down and kill it.


Good eye Tin Head

Not to good , one just took down one of my plants. bang grin
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/02/20 11:52 AM

Most of my tomato and squash plants died between the transition from inside to ground. Had to start over. Green beans and peppers are looking good though.
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/02/20 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by Chickenman
Most of my tomato and squash plants died between the transition from inside to ground.

That's weird. What caused it?
New exposure to hot sun?
Too wet,damping off virus?
Slugs and snails got them?
Transplant shock?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/02/20 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by Chickenman
Most of my tomato and squash plants died between the transition from inside to ground. Had to start over. Green beans and peppers are looking good though.



I replaced one of my tomato plants this morning because it was doing poorly. I only started. With a half dozen. I no longer process tomatoes. I mostly give them away and make fresh garden salads similar to this.

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Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/02/20 04:30 PM

No Lettuces? confused2
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/02/20 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by swampthang
What caused it?
New exposure to hot sun?

Transplant shock?


One of the two or both I think. Not impressed. Plenty of grow time left. I just hope hail doesn't take anything out seeing how I'm behind.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/02/20 05:28 PM

One of many things that will do that is going from indoors to full sun instantly. Most call for a hardening off period of at least 3 days up to a week. Take them out and place in the shade for a few hrs . Then take them back in and increase the that time daily. I will do this for maybe 3 days then try and time the planting to a cloudy couple of days. Just a thought , dont know if its the case here
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/02/20 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Chickenman
Originally Posted by swampthang
What caused it?
New exposure to hot sun?

Transplant shock?


One of the two or both I think. Not impressed. Plenty of grow time left. I just hope hail doesn't take anything out seeing how I'm behind.



On grow time left, I've learned that tomatoes will hurry up to catch up. I've planted them as much as a month apart but they will ripen something like only two weeks apart.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/20 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Chickenman
Most of my tomato and squash plants died between the transition from inside to ground. Had to start over. Green beans and peppers are looking good though.



I replaced one of my tomato plants this morning because it was doing poorly. I only started. With a half dozen. I no longer process tomatoes. I mostly give them away and make fresh garden salads similar to this.

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only thing missing for me is dill food
Posted By: Ders26

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/20 02:02 PM

3 of my 8 tomato plants have been cut down about 3 inches above the ground. What is yalls solution to this problem? Lucky, I always plant way more than I need and the loss will affect me. I would prefer not to lose any more though.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/20 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by Ders26
3 of my 8 tomato plants have been cut down about 3 inches above the ground. What is yalls solution to this problem? Lucky, I always plant way more than I need and the loss will affect me. I would prefer not to lose any more though.

cutworms. some tin foil or like some one else posted, a nail ,at the base will keep them from wrapping around the stem. You can also use something like a cup with the bottom cut off and placed around the stem. The cutworm usually barrows close to the stem during the day and a little digging will find him.
Or you can nuke the area with something like seven if it kills caterpillars.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/20 05:42 PM

don't use sevin
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/20 01:28 AM

40 for the low here tonight lol35
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/20 03:31 PM

Monday update.

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Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/20 05:16 PM

clap woot flehan
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/20 04:16 AM

38 degree low on Tuesday bang
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/20 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
38 degree low on Tuesday bang

41 On Tuesday here... smirk
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/20 01:58 PM

Calling for 37* here Tuesday morning, hopefully it won't get that cold. I have way to much up to cover up.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/20 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by Old Rabbit
Calling for 37* here Tuesday morning, hopefully it won't get that cold. I have way to much up to cover up.


Could use more rain.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/20 01:10 AM

I put my 3 container tomato plants in the cargo trailer this evening. A hail storm just missed us. More heavy storms possible this evening. I’ll put them back out in the morning.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/20 01:40 PM

I'm back in with y'all this year. Haven't planted in 2 years. Just did 6 Celebrity maters, 4 jalapeno & 4 bell peppers. fingers crossed.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/20 03:14 PM

Put my container maters back outside. Counted 10 on the small hybrids, got a bunch of flowers on the Beefsteak I picked up last week. This is like waiting for water to boil.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/20 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Put my container maters back outside. Counted 10 on the small hybrids, got a bunch of flowers on the Beefsteak I picked up last week. This is like waiting for water to boil.



I feel your pain. Happens to me every year about this time of the year.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/20 05:26 PM

Theres a tool i have always seen but just getting around to getting one 16 dollars for a pretty fine and good working hoe at home depot. For weeding and loosening soil in your home garden. Really easy to use after a rain. The blade is sharpened on both sides .

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ames-54-in-Wood-Handle-Action-Hoe-2825800/204476206 [Linked Image]


Posted By: Always ready 2 hunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/20 05:39 PM

^^^ an action ho that goes back and forth...

Well I'm late getting backyard garden in. Do I wait for Saturday/Sunday thunderstorms to pass DFW or do it on this absolute gorgeous Good Friday?
already have seeds in ground, but picked up some small pots of maters, peppers, squash, etc to put in another bed
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/20 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by Always ready 2 hunt
^^^ an action ho that goes back and forth...

Well I'm late getting backyard garden in. Do I wait for Saturday/Sunday thunderstorms to pass DFW or do it on this absolute gorgeous Good Friday?
already have seeds in ground, but picked up some small pots of maters, peppers, squash, etc to put in another bed

DO IT TODAY, and take advantage of the free water. grin If you wait till after rain, you will also have to wait till after the soil dries a little. If you see frost in your area go ahead and wait
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/20 06:10 PM

I like my old fashion garden hoe. I like to hip up my rows.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/20 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
I like my old fashion garden hoe. I like to hip up my rows.

I think they do two different jobs.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/20 03:31 PM

My best tomato is now setting tomatoes all the way to the top. Take a peek

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This is the bottom of the same plant. I have over two dozen on just that one of six plants.

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More little bitty pickles.

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Posted By: Walkabout

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/20 03:50 PM

Bill you have a helluva green thumb. I hope all the critters leave your maters alone.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/20 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
My best tomato is now setting tomatoes all the way to the top. Take a peek

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This is the bottom of the same plant. I have over two dozen on just that one of six plants.

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More little bitty pickles.

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clap
Posted By: jetdad

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/20 04:54 PM

Looks like you have a bumper crop going Bill.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/20 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
My best tomato is now setting tomatoes all the way to the top. Take a peek

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This is the bottom of the same plant. I have over two dozen on just that one of six plants.

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More little bitty pickles.

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Posted By: cleatas

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/20 05:51 PM

Calling for a low of 38° here the next 3 nights but each day a high of 60°....would y’all cover your plants or you think I’m good?

I have about 20 jalapeño plants and 6 tomato and 4 squash.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/20 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by cleatas
Calling for a low of 38° here the next 3 nights but each day a high of 60°....would y’all cover your plants or you think I’m good?

I have about 20 jalapeño plants and 6 tomato and 4 squash.

What are the chances or frost? 38 degree for three nights I would try to cover but the frost is what gets them first it seems. If you need , home depot sells the thin type plastic pretty cheap. Maybe even use the thin painters stuff if not to windy.
Posted By: cleatas

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/20 06:30 PM

I love over an hour from a store like that. I think one year I used plastic cups and then took them off in the morning before I left for work. I need to stop planting so early because every year this happens around Easter
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/20 09:35 PM

Try a sheet
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/20 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by cleatas
I love over an hour from a store like that. I think one year I used plastic cups and then took them off in the morning before I left for work. I need to stop planting so early because every year this happens around Easter

No, its really a gamble for all of us. Even the best , can fall short but I think you will be ok as long is there is no frost. You can gamble and wait and have shorter time for fruit before it heats up. You can put them in early and gamble a frost. I have even had plants get frost bit and they turned out fine. Looked burnt but quickly got into gear when the heat kicked up.
Posted By: cleatas

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/20 12:42 AM

Ok thank you sir. I’m gonna gamble and see what happens. A sheet would be too hard for the space i have to cover.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/20 07:02 PM

How long til my maters turn red? I’ve got a couple that aren’t getting any bigger. Waiting on water to boil.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/20 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
How long til my maters turn red? I’ve got a couple that aren’t getting any bigger. Waiting on water to boil.



Always seems forever for me.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/20 08:45 PM

and about the time they do start to turn just a faint shade of red, the birds & squirrels notice them as well...
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/20 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by PMK
and about the time they do start to turn just a faint shade of red, the birds & squirrels notice them as well...



I pick mine at first blush.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/20 12:01 AM

My 'maters are blooming!
Posted By: Always ready 2 hunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/20 02:42 AM

I got a late start, covered mine tonight with chance of frost....geez April 15 frost in North DFW. at least did not have the snow
Posted By: GLC

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/20 05:29 PM

Everything of mine was up 3 to 6 inches. Got up at 3 am and turned the sprinkler on. Hope that took care of it.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/20 05:48 PM

any ideas on inexpensive garden fencing material? Some thing that would would with t post.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/20 07:03 PM

Getting some brown on the edges of leave on my beefsteak mater plant. Any ideas on a solution?
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Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/20 08:16 PM

only thing I got is nute burn . To strong nutrient solution , doesnt happen with organics ( well does uncomposted chicken manure). . Or maybe you watered during the day and the water beading on the tips combined with the sun burnt the tips. With synthetic nutrients I like to stay on the light side, because it will quickly burn.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/20 08:52 PM

I did fertilize with some miracle grow a few days ago. I’ll go lighter next time. The other 2 hybrids didn’t mind it.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/20 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
I did fertilize with some miracle grow a few days ago. I’ll go lighter next time. The other 2 hybrids didn’t mind it.

if its the nutrient issue it could be anything. Maybe the root system is less established but really could be any of the things I listed.I forget if they are all the same variety.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/20 09:04 PM

I hope it pulls through. It’s got a lot of blooms! I’m looking forward to the big maters!
Posted By: jetdad

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/20 09:15 PM

Try some nutri-pak. It helps with absorption. Great stuff.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/20 11:10 PM

I only fertilize mine when I plant them.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/20 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
I only fertilize mine when I plant them.

different fertilizers act different, are used differently.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/20 11:40 PM


Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
I hope it pulls through. It’s got a lot of blooms! I’m looking forward to the big maters!
you should be fine but leaves will stay like that doesnt affect anything but looks. Dont forget to spank your plants to get those blooms going.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/20 02:50 AM

Spank my plants? Sounds like a topic for the bunker!
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/20 03:12 AM

wtf
Please elaborate Tin.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/20 03:15 AM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
any ideas on inexpensive garden fencing material? Some thing that would would with t post.

We had some of that green plastic mesh fencing....sort of like you see at construction sites, around ours one time, it kept the cat and rabbit's out.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/20 03:41 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
wtf
Please elaborate Tin.

grin

Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/20 04:08 AM

Interesting.
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Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/20 05:33 AM

I've also heard of beating a young fruit tree that's not producing with a baseball bat to get it set fruit. The theory is the tree thinks its under attack and about to die so it produces a seed to continue its species. Makes sense because I've noticed sick plants/trees do seem to put out a lot of fruit as they are dying.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/20 02:23 PM

I spanked mine this morning.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/20 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
I spanked mine this morning.

eeks333 ... LOL ... that might become someone's signature line roflmao
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/20 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by PMK
Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
I spanked mine this morning.

eeks333 ... LOL ... that might become someone's signature line roflmao

rofl
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/20 10:55 AM

Had a pretty good set back with most of my transplants dying. A majority of the new seeds never did sprout I think due to heavy rain. I started a third round a few days ago. Even though I'm behind schedule, I think I'll be fine as long as there's no downpours. The frost from the other day did not seem to impact the established plants.

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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/20 03:48 PM

Dogs alerted me to a squirrel sitting on fence eyeing my mater plants this morning. I’m out of pellets. Will suit up with gloves and mask for trip to Walmart for more ammo.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/20 09:18 PM

I have my neighbor part of my garden. He just picked his first tomato.

I have cucumber that will be ready to pick in a couple of days.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/20 09:41 PM

I have a tomato that has quit growing, but hasn’t turned red.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/20 08:43 PM

Just getting ready to water my garden and got a pop up shower. cheers
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/20 04:04 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Just getting ready to water my garden and got a pop up shower. cheers

We got a slow 1/2" rain this evening ... Squash is growing like crazy.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/20 01:25 PM

Steady rain all morning.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/20 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Steady rain all morning.

Same
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/20 08:52 PM

We had fog this morning, now it’s hot and humid. Tomato growing weather!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/20 08:50 PM

My cucumbers are loaded. Planning to make some hamburger dills soon.
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/20 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
My cucumbers are loaded. Planning to make some hamburger dills soon.

mine aint 5"s tall yet, but have started lookin better. amazing what a couple hundred miles north will do/not do to yur garden
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/20 12:14 AM

test
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/20 12:40 AM

cant get pics to post. is it cuz I don't have enough clout?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/20 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by Poppa
cant get pics to post. is it cuz I don't have enough clout?



I'm in the same shape with my camera on my Ipad. It quit working. Something about. Not enough storage space.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/20 10:45 PM

You’ll need to delete some pics to make more storage room Bill.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/20 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
You’ll need to delete some pics to make more storage room Bill.



Didn't work. Looking to buy a new one.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/20 02:23 PM

even when you delete the pictures, you need to go to the deleted pictures folder and empty that as well ...
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/20 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Poppa
cant get pics to post. is it cuz I don't have enough clout?



I'm in the same shape with my camera on my Ipad. It quit working. Something about. Not enough storage space.


Miracles still happen. It came back on its on. May be able to pick a few tomatoes over the weekend.

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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/20 06:02 PM

My beefsteak container plant blew over again. Glad we caught it early and got it righted. It’s got 8 baby maters.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/20 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner


Miracles still happen. It came back on its on. May be able to pick a few tomatoes over the weekend.

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Man that's great , wish my garden would use a bar code also. flehan
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/20 03:48 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Poppa
cant get pics to post. is it cuz I don't have enough clout?



I'm in the same shape with my camera on my Ipad. It quit working. Something about. Not enough storage space.


Miracles still happen. It came back on its on. May be able to pick a few tomatoes over the weekend.

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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/20 02:52 PM

Should I wait til maters turn red before picking?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/20 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Should I wait til maters turn red before picking?


Glad you asked. These are turning a little. I'll probably pick a couple on them tomorrow.

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There are a dozen showing here. They are producing all the way to the top. Should be enough to share with my neighbors.

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Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/20 04:59 PM

^ this is why I turned mine under last year..
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/20 05:04 PM

Would it hurt to transplant into bigger container after tomato plant has fruit already?
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/20 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Should I wait til maters turn red before picking?


Glad you asked. These are turning a little. I'll probably pick a couple on them tomorrow.

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There are a dozen showing here. They are producing all the way to the top. Should be enough to share with my neighbors.

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Those look good Bill!
cheers
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/20 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Should I wait til maters turn red before picking?


Glad you asked. These are turning a little. I'll probably pick a couple on them tomorrow.

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There are a dozen showing here. They are producing all the way to the top. Should be enough to share with my neighbors.

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What variety?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/20 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Should I wait til maters turn red before picking?


Glad you asked. These are turning a little. I'll probably pick a couple on them tomorrow.

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There are a dozen showing here. They are producing all the way to the top. Should be enough to share with my neighbors.

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What variety?


Better boy. Looks as if they are getting ready to get watered again. Big rain on the way. cheers
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/20 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Would it hurt to transplant into bigger container after tomato plant has fruit already?

The only way that would work is if you can somehow remove the plant from its current pot WITHOUT LOSING ANY SOIL FROM AROUND THE ROOTS. That will be hard to do. Lose too much soil from around the roots during the transfer and the shock will be too much and it will probably die.You might get away with it while the days are still cool but once hot weather sets in forget it.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/20 06:30 PM

Next year try 3 landscape timbers and some potting soil for a 4 by 8.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/20 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by swampthang
Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Would it hurt to transplant into bigger container after tomato plant has fruit already?

The only way that would work is if you can somehow remove the plant from its current pot WITHOUT LOSING ANY SOIL FROM AROUND THE ROOTS. That will be hard to do. Lose too much soil from around the roots during the transfer and the shock will be too much and it will probably die.You might get away with it while the days are still cool but once hot weather sets in forget it.

Im with swampy here. I dont think they will die but going to a larger container will likely make it concentrate on expanding root growth and your season will be gone. Leave it where its at and just keep doing what your are doing. Keep pushing the ferts hard , but as you know to much ferts and you will burn the plant.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/20 08:12 PM

I’m backing off the miracle grow on the beefsteak for a couple more weeks. It got burned the first feeding. My 2 Better Bush hybrids didn’t mind it at all.
Next year I should have the whole back yard fenced in, so will do a raised bed.
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/20 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Should I wait til maters turn red before picking?


Glad you asked. These are turning a little. I'll probably pick a couple on them tomorrow.

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There are a dozen showing here. They are producing all the way to the top. Should be enough to share with my neighbors.

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What type or name do these tomato's have? Look great.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/20 12:04 AM

Better boy.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/20 12:12 AM

My container garden is perking right along. The hybrid Bush on the left just has been scrawny since I got it, but it’s producing.
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/20 12:21 AM

I'm not recommending it but you could put them in the ground by simply cutting the bottom out of the pots.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/20 12:48 AM

That part of the yard is my parking lot, covered by decomposed granite. I’ve seen deer in the neighborhood jump 5’ chain link fencing. I hope they don’t get hungry enough to get my maters.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/20 07:52 PM

Picked my first tomato from the Better Bush Hybrid plant! Put it in the kitchen window to ripen.
Posted By: BayouGuy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/20 07:59 PM

I love home grown tomatoes. But I don't see the point of growing them yourself if you're not going to let them ripen on the vine. It makes such a difference.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/20 08:02 PM

I got impatient. There’s plenty more out there still.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/20 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by BayouGuy
I love home grown tomatoes. But I don't see the point of growing them yourself if you're not going to let them ripen on the vine. It makes such a difference.



Disagree. Can't tell the difference, but you could after a squirrel ate part of one on the plant. I let them ripen on the vine after I have enough to share.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/20 08:35 PM

Yep,
I’ve got plenty of critters around here, squirrels being the most.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/20 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Yep,
I’ve got plenty of critters around here, squirrels being the most.


I once saw one climbing a pecan tree with a red tomato in its mouth. Looked like a circus seal balancing a ball on its nose.
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/20 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Yep,
I’ve got plenty of critters around here, squirrels being the most.


I once saw one climbing a pecan tree with a red tomato in its mouth. Looked like a circus seal balancing a ball on its nose.

I cant count the number of times I watched a squirrel running down the trunk of my peach tree with a full size peach in its mouth. mad I waged a Jihad against the squirrels and Blue Jays last year.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/20 09:40 PM

I’ve got a new pkg of pellets, and the Gamo is sighted in.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/20 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by swampthang
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Yep,
I’ve got plenty of critters around here, squirrels being the most.


I once saw one climbing a pecan tree with a red tomato in its mouth. Looked like a circus seal balancing a ball on its nose.

I cant count the number of times I watched a squirrel running down the trunk of my peach tree with a full size peach in its mouth. mad I waged a Jihad against the squirrels and Blue Jays last year.



Most fruits and vegetables that are picked on the day they ripen are sold as over ripe. They can't even be sold at farmers markets. Strawberries are an exception. They will not continue to ripen after they re picked. Look it up.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/20 11:25 PM

Speaking of strawberries, we got some really good ones from HEB last week. Had strawberry shortcake for a couple nights.
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/20 11:35 PM

I grow two varieties of strawberries,Chandler and Quinalt. I have chicken wire stretched and suspended about 8 inches above the patch to keep the birds off them. By far the biggest pest to my s-berries are snails,vile little things eat the berries themselves!
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/20 06:08 PM

My tomatoes and peppers got beat down pretty bad by hail yesterday morning. Y’all think it’s too late to replant them? Or just wait and try to maybe get a fall crop?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/20 07:57 PM

Never had any luck with fall tomatoes.
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/20 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by Cow_doc.308
My tomatoes and peppers got beat down pretty bad by hail yesterday morning. Y’all think it’s too late to replant them? Or just wait and try to maybe get a fall crop?

I'd just trim away any branches that were broken.If the main "trunk" of the plant is still there it will re-foliate itself somewhat and you might still get a few fruits off the plant.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/20 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by swampthang
Originally Posted by Cow_doc.308
My tomatoes and peppers got beat down pretty bad by hail yesterday morning. Y’all think it’s too late to replant them? Or just wait and try to maybe get a fall crop?

I'd just trim away any branches that were broken.If the main "trunk" of the plant is still there it will re-foliate itself somewhat and you might still get a few fruits off the plant.

this, you will likely have better luck with the existing plants even through beaten down by the hail, over planting new. At least the existing plants have roots established and hopefully continue to grow and produce.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/20 10:56 PM

Got something chewing on my tomato leaves. I looked for the tomato worms, but didn’t see any. It just happened since yesterday evening. Any ideas?
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/20 11:00 PM

That's a tough one. Didn't look like tomato horn worm damage to me.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/20 11:29 PM

dont take any chances , the hornworm , if thats what it is, would eat one of those potted plants in one night. Pick it up and look from the bottom. Look good and hard . The hornworm is a master at blending in . The only way you will notice it is because its moving while eating .
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/20 11:45 PM

I usually kill a few that eat on vines that grow on chain link fence about 20’ away every summer. I’ll look again this evening.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/20 12:51 AM

Found 1
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Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/20 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Found 1
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I was thinking it was a immature one, but them things seem to grow full size over night. I full size on will seem to eat 1/3 of a plant in the ground in a day. . up
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/20 02:16 AM

I’ve seen the full grown worms. They are as big and long as my finger.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/20 03:30 AM

Found 2 more tonite after dark with flashlight. Need to find a blacklight flashlight. They supposedly glow in the blacklight.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/20 05:24 AM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Found 1
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Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/20 11:50 AM

Progress

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/20 02:12 PM

Picked these Wednesday. Plan on using one for a lunch for a turkey,bacon, club, and on my cheeseburger for dinner.

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More are on the way. Plan on picking the bottom one later.

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Done buying onions for awhile, neighbor gave me the pepper plants. They are supposed to turn color. May stuff a few.

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I've used up all my pickle jars the pickles came out fine. I will have plenty left for salads and a few to give away.
Posted By: Walkabout

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/20 02:33 PM

Good looking maters Bill. Make good steaks with S & P all by themselves.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/20 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by Walkabout
Good looking maters Bill. Make good steaks with S & P all by themselves.


Much obliged for your kind words.
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/20 09:46 PM

Anybody ever grown these?



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Will be our first year.
Posted By: jetdad

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/20 10:37 PM

That tomato plant is loaded Bill. Great job sir.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/20 12:30 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Walkabout
Good looking maters Bill. Make good steaks with S & P all by themselves.


Much obliged for your kind words.



Bill,
Is there a reason those tomatoes ripening in the widow sill are upside down?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/20 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Walkabout
Good looking maters Bill. Make good steaks with S & P all by themselves.


Much obliged for your kind words.



Bill,
Is there a reason those tomatoes ripening in the widow sill are upside down?


Look at the slicers in the markets. Its always stem side down. That's the end I cut first and sometimes discard. Thanks a bunch for asking.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/20 12:59 AM

I core out the stem, and slice from the top. Won’t be wasting any of my maters.
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/20 01:19 AM

My maters are being troubled by fruit worms this year. They're boring holes in the maters. I've started spraying them with pyrethrin,hope that works.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/20 01:10 PM

Found 2 more small horn worms last night on mater plants. They met an ugly death.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/20 02:24 PM

Finished making my last jar of pickles. Only need cucumbers for salads and to give away. Getting ready to pull up another onion and pick a couple more tomatoes. Salad will be complete with store bought iceberg.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/20 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Found 2 more small horn worms last night on mater plants. They met an ugly death.


It never eases to amaze me how they can find a single tomato planting a 40 acre field.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/20 06:13 PM

I’m headed to Harbor Freight tomorrow to get a blacklight flashlight. Dang worms will glow in the dark and I’ll be able to find them easier. Or so I read somewhere.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/20 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Never had any luck with fall tomatoes.


Last year was the best I ever had. My Celebrity were loaded down with big green tomatoes then we had the early freeze, I picked about 40 lbs of green tomatoes and found a article about spreading them out in cardboard boxes with a banana in each box, We ended up with beautiful tasty red tomatoes until 3 days before Christmas. I was amazed!! shocked
Posted By: jetdad

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/20 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
I’m headed to Harbor Freight tomorrow to get a blacklight flashlight. Dang worms will glow in the dark and I’ll be able to find them easier. Or so I read somewhere.


I've got one and use it to locate scorpions. They glow pretty good. Don't know about the caterpillars.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/20 11:38 PM

First tomato sliced from the container garden.
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Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/20 12:08 AM

clap clap clap
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/20 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
First tomato sliced from the container garden.
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That's what I'm talking about. cheers
Posted By: HarwoodHunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/20 12:11 AM

Excellent
Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/20 02:36 PM

Nice! I'm a couple weeks out on my first ones if the 2000 things that kill them don't kill them.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/20 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Found 1
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Too late to start seeds for them but marigolds repel the horn worms.

I always plant them on the border of my garden. I also plant zinnias and nasturtiums for similar reasons.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/20 04:28 PM

Look for something similar to this . They come in on wings. Look for eggs underneath leaves.
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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/20 09:22 PM

Saw some about a month ago.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/20 09:28 PM

If I get them , its usually once per season
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/20 09:39 PM

we have gotten about a half dozen cherry tomatoes off one of our plants, should have more on another plant or two by the end of the week. The slicers are still very green but producing better than I expected.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/05/20 12:54 PM

Found another immature tomato worm last night. The blacklight flashlight worked!
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/05/20 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Found another immature tomato worm last night. The blacklight flashlight worked!

thats great news that it works.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/05/20 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
First tomato sliced from the container garden.
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clap up
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/05/20 05:04 PM

Bet it was good!
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/05/20 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by NORML as can be
Bet it was good!


Better than the cardboard flavored ones at the store. Had another last night, got a small one for tonight. Gonna let a few vine ripen now.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/05/20 05:54 PM

clap
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/05/20 06:55 PM

where'd you find the blacklight flashlight? A friend of mine has one and says it is a miracle light at night for scorpions
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/05/20 08:04 PM

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/05/20 08:06 PM

I've been watering my tomatoes with a mixture of cow water (cow pies and water mixed) they have really gotten a darker green the last few days... Just started giving the squash a little bit.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/05/20 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by PMK
where'd you find the blacklight flashlight? A friend of mine has one and says it is a miracle light at night for scorpions


Harbor freight. $9
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/05/20 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Originally Posted by PMK
where'd you find the blacklight flashlight? A friend of mine has one and says it is a miracle light at night for scorpions


Harbor freight. $9

be careful you might find more than you bargained for. roflmao Reminds me of the times I went fishing at night have a blast, until I turned on the lights. Once I was surrounds by scorpions. The other time I turned the light on to leave and the field I had to cross lit up with sparkles. Looking at the sparkles it wasnt sparkles , it was the reflection of the eye from all the spiders I had to cross..... bolt
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/05/20 09:07 PM

Haven't grown any tubers in several years except a few onions, but my neighbor gave me these. Plan to make some pan fried potatoes and onions,

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/05/20 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Haven't grown any tubers in several years except a few onions, but my neighbor gave me these. Plan to make some pan fried potatoes and onions,

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Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/05/20 11:31 PM

I am definitely running later than a lot of you guys. My onions are doing great and I have already grubbed some red potatoes. Cabbage is heading pretty well. My first planting of purple hull peas drowned along with the watermelons and cantaloupe. Have them replanted and waiting to see how they do. Picture is a panorama taken on my phone, garden it 100' x 100'.
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/05/20 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by Old Rabbit
I am definitely running later than a lot of you guys. My onions are doing great and I have already grubbed some red potatoes. Cabbage is heading pretty well. My first planting of purple hull peas drowned along with the watermelons and cantaloupe. Have them replanted and waiting to see how they do. Picture is a panorama taken on my phone, garden it 100' x 100'.
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Beautiful. I've planted melons later.
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/20 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Old Rabbit
I am definitely running later than a lot of you guys. My onions are doing great and I have already grubbed some red potatoes. Cabbage is heading pretty well. My first planting of purple hull peas drowned along with the watermelons and cantaloupe. Have them replanted and waiting to see how they do. Picture is a panorama taken on my phone, garden it 100' x 100'.
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Beautiful. I've planted melons later.

Thanks Bill. My onions have done well this year, even with getting 2" to 3" rains every couple of weeks. Weeded and loosened the ground and put one more round of fertilizer on them. They still have a few weeks or better to continue growing.
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/20 12:38 AM

You can start using some of those onions now. Try pan fried potatoes and add the tops at the end. Better yet put some links in there a and make a complete meal out of it.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/20 01:08 AM

Great looking garden, Old Rabbit!
I'm pleased at how mine is doing in this new spot... I'm totally doing it bigger next year.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/20 02:37 AM

Originally Posted by Old Rabbit
I am definitely running later than a lot of you guys. My onions are doing great and I have already grubbed some red potatoes. Cabbage is heading pretty well. My first planting of purple hull peas drowned along with the watermelons and cantaloupe. Have them replanted and waiting to see how they do. Picture is a panorama taken on my phone, garden it 100' x 100'.
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Wow! 100x100 is a really nice sized garden.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/20 02:43 AM

Successful worm hunt again tonight. Found one in a cocoon, 2 others wrapped in dried leaf. The blacklight flashlight did it’s job again.
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Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/20 02:46 AM

rifle

I see one of those lights in my future.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/20 02:14 AM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
rifle

I see one of those lights in my future.


Yep me 2
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/20 04:08 PM

This is part of this weeks pickings. I have more pickles and cumbersome than I can use. Here's one that was hidden on the trellis. I'll have to throw it out.

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Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/20 04:20 PM

clap
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/20 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
This is part of this weeks pickings. I have more pickles and cumbersome than I can use. Here's one that was hidden on the trellis. I'll have to throw it out.

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/20 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Haven't grown any tubers in several years except a few onions, but my neighbor gave me these. Plan to make some pan fried potatoes and onions,

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Here you go. Decided to use the small one and the carrots to make what I call smashed potatoes. You don't have to peel the new potatoes. Two minutes in the microwave and this will knock your socks off.

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/20 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Haven't grown any tubers in several years except a few onions, but my neighbor gave me these. Plan to make some pan fried potatoes and onions,

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Here you go. Decided to use the small one and the carrots to make what I call smashed potatoes. You don't have to peel the new potatoes. Two minutes in the microwave and this will knock your socks off.

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Save me a plate Mr.Bill! food
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/20 05:13 PM

Turkey bacon club. I've been waiting almost a year for this.

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Looks as if I will be eating them on up in June. Look at the top crop on this plant I counted a couple dozen tomatoes. Some are hidden from the profuse vegetation.

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/20 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Turkey bacon club. I've been waiting almost a year for this.

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Looks as if I will be eating them on up in June. Look at the top crop on this plant I counted a couple dozen tomatoes. Some are hidden from the profuse vegetation.

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clap clap
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/20 11:19 PM

Cucumbers out my ears. Done making pickles. Anymore ideas besides marinaded salad.

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Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/20 12:25 AM

drink7
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/20 12:56 AM


You can put yellow squash or zucchini in there but you need to blanch it first.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/20 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Cucumbers out my ears. Done making pickles. Anymore ideas besides marinaded salad.

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your pickles don't taste like Aunt Bee's pickles do they?
wink
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/20 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Cucumbers out my ears. Done making pickles. Anymore ideas besides marinaded salad.

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dill or sweet or both? what is your recipe?
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/20 06:45 PM

you recipe for pickles, not the salad.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/20 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by Poppa
you recipe for pickles, not the salad.


Here you go. I skip the soaking and pour the brine directly over the cucumbers in the jars. I do the a pint or quart at a time, leave them on the counter until they turn color then refrigerate. My brine includes 1/3 vinegar and 2/3 water. Never. Measure the salt. I skip most of the spices. Its difficult to mess them up.

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The recipe is on the back of the Morton pickling salt box.
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/20 01:02 AM

kinda what I use. thought ya mite have a secret sauce. lol thanks. it aint rocket surgery, right?
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/20 02:51 AM

is it too late to plant cucumbers?
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/20 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
is it too late to plant cucumbers?


NOPE
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/20 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
Originally Posted by TCM3
is it too late to plant cucumbers?


NOPE



I'm thinking of planting some watermelons.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/20 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
is it too late to plant cucumbers?


Check here for a wealth of information on growing dates, can even plant by moon phase. Most forget about the website and some hoard the info.

https://www.almanac.com/gardening/planting-calendar/zipcode/77301
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/20 05:13 PM

Thanks Tin!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/20 02:34 PM

Finally getting more size out of my tomatoes. The one on top is going on my BLT / turkey club for lunch today, salad tonight, and into my marinated salad. The cucumber is a burpless verity. It alone will make the marinated salad. My bell peppers didn't do well last year but are doing great this year.

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/20 03:15 PM

up looking good,Bill!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/20 03:16 PM

A couple more pictures but first. I didn't lose a single tomato this year. I'm not against insecticides but I didn't lose a single tomato this year. I guess its just the luck of the draw.

Here is a photo of my burn pile where I get my ashes for my tomato hills.

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Also the peppers on the plants my neighbor are finally turning color. Plan to make stuffed peppers later with them.

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/20 03:20 PM

up up
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/20 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
up up
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/20 11:04 PM

I'm old but not old fashion. Can't remember all the times I sweated out ripe tomatoes for Memorial Day get togethers.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/20 04:46 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
I'm old but not old fashion. Can't remember all the times I sweated out ripe tomatoes for Memorial Day get togethers.

up
Posted By: S.A. hunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/20 08:43 PM

Wish I could grow a garden....... too much shade. I'll have to live vicariously though this tread.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/20 02:33 AM

Originally Posted by S.A. hunter
Wish I could grow a garden....... too much shade. I'll have to live vicariously though this tread.

no excuse... You can grow microgreens and sprouts indoors . check out this guys channel , many others as well. He does a lot of indoor stuff. Sprouts are pretty easy





Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/20 02:36 AM

So far 5 green tamaters on 2 plants, one is still blooming.
I thump it often. cool2
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/20 02:39 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
So far 5 green tamaters on 2 plants, one is still blooming.
I thump it often. cool2

Pics please grin
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/20 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
Originally Posted by TCM3
So far 5 green tamaters on 2 plants, one is still blooming.
I thump it often. cool2

Pics please grin

Please don’t!
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/20 01:01 AM

My large tomato plant didn’t like the heat today. Went to check them this evening, found the big plant wilted under the weight of all the tomatoes and looking really bad. Put a couple wooden dowels in for support, and gave it a big drink. Then got to looking at the fruit. Found some ugly damage, I’ve attached a pic. Everything looked good yesterday evening.
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Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/20 01:40 AM

blossom end rot, its a calcium deficiency. Usually fixed with gypsum or calcium. Its late in the season though
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/20 11:42 AM

I prevent mine with wood ash. You might get a second crop. Fingers crossed.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/20 02:16 PM

So some ashes from my smoker mixed in the soil? Pretty crazy it happened in one day, it was really hot yesterday. May move to place where there’s afternoon shade.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/20 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
A couple more pictures but first. I didn't lose a single tomato this year. I'm not against insecticides but I didn't lose a single tomato this year. I guess its just the luck of the draw.

Here is a photo of my burn pile where I get my ashes for my tomato hills.

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Also the peppers on the plants my neighbor are finally turning color. Plan to make stuffed peppers later with them.

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You can take it to the bank when I quote myself. Also check on the recipe forum tonight for a peek at my stuffed peppers.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/20 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
So some ashes from my smoker mixed in the soil? Pretty crazy it happened in one day, it was really hot yesterday. May move to place where there’s afternoon shade.

Quote
Benefits for Soil pH

Most wood ash contains a good percentage, about 25 percent, of calcium carbonate, an ingredient in garden lime. If your soil is very acidic (5.5 or lower), amending with wood ash can raise your soil pH.

On the other hand, if your soil is neutral or alkaline, to begin with, adding wood ash could raise the pH high enough to interfere with the plant's ability to take in nutrients. Wood ash should also be avoided around acid-loving plants like rhododendrons and blueberries.
Negative Effects in the Garden

Unfortunately, wood ash can also be a source of heavy metals such as cadmium, chromium, or lead, which you don't necessarily want in your garden. However, most studies have not shown that if the soil pH is above 6.0, the heavy metals are not taken in by the plants in measurable amounts. And since wood ash raises the soil pH, the presence of heavy metals should not be a problem. If you have a regular source of wood ash and are worried about the extended use of it in your garden, you should consider having it tested in a lab.

The bottom line is that a small amount of wood ash will add some nutrients and be beneficial to most soils. Large amounts should be avoided.
https://www.thespruce.com/is-wood-ash-good-for-garden-soil-1403126

https://www.gardenersmag.com/blossom-end-rot/
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/20 04:14 PM

Put two tablespoons of epsom salt in a gallon of water and spray it on the plants or take a teaspoon of epsom salt and put it around the base of the plants.

If you put too much wood ash in your soil you’ll risk raising the ph levels.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/20 04:54 PM

If your leaves look like this then you have a magnesium deficiency add Epsom salt . If your leaves do not look like this than its likely will not solve your issue with blossom end rot. Epsom salt is magnesium sulfate, Mag and sulfur (no calcium). ONe side of the aisle says mag will help cal uptake , the other side says it will hinder cal uptake. A little Epsom salt is not a bad thing , I use it once every couple of weeks on tomatoes and peppers but again if your leaves dont look like this then it probably wont help.

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Found this that says epsom salt for blossom end rot is a myth and may lead to more blossom end rot.
https://www.ag.ndsu.edu/yardandgardenreport/documents/the-epsom-salt-myth
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/20 05:29 PM

I have not lost a single tomato, had one bitter cucumber, and bell peppers are great this year. I call it the luck of the draw, moderation, and green thumb. I never had the same luck with yellow squash and zucchini. I gave them up this year.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/20 05:45 PM

I think 68's is in containers and it could be irregular watering or the ferts.
Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/20 06:58 PM

I got no pollinators. Tomatoes and peppers doing well but cucumbers and blackberries blooming but not producing fruit. Same thing happened last year.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/20 07:14 PM

Did you use sevin? It kills everything including the pollinators.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/20 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by greenen
I got no pollinators. Tomatoes and peppers doing well but cucumbers and blackberries blooming but not producing fruit. Same thing happened last year.

for the cukes you can hand pollinate until the pollinators show up. Heres some info on that.

Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/20 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
I think 68's is in containers and it could be irregular watering or the ferts.


Yes they are in containers. I only water when they get dry, I check them in the evening. Have cut way back on fertilizer. 2 of the plants are ok, no producing much fruit, the big plant I guess got too dry yesterday, and couldn’t support the load of a dozen tomatoes. Even though it has a plastic basket for support. The basket even folded over. The big plant looks much better today. I’m just concerned about the rot now.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/20 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Originally Posted by Tin Head
I think 68's is in containers and it could be irregular watering or the ferts.


Yes they are in containers. I only water when they get dry, I check them in the evening. Have cut way back on fertilizer. 2 of the plants are ok, no producing much fruit, the big plant I guess got too dry yesterday, and couldn’t support the load of a dozen tomatoes. Even though it has a plastic basket for support. The basket even folded over. The big plant looks much better today. I’m just concerned about the rot now.

letting them dry out , then flooding the container is considered irregular watering. I have a bottle of cal mag Ill use when I get into trouble .
Something like this is quick acting
https://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-...for+plants&qid=1590005655&sr=8-9

This is what I have
https://www.amazon.com/Botanicare-C...1-1-70f7c15d-07d8-466a-b325-4be35d7258cc

What fertilizer are you using? It might have calcium already in it and it could be the watering. A big rain also cause issues
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/20 08:28 PM

Heres another good tomato specific fert.
https://theurbanfarm.com/tomatomagic.html
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/20 02:00 AM

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Posted By: Creekrunner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/20 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by Chickenman
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You have Garden Angels! 'Very blessed man. up
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/20 02:57 AM

That pic reminds me of an aunt I had back in Georgia that had a big garden and grew a lot of green beans. She used to make us kids snap an ungodly amount of beans.Ugh,I hated it.If I never snap another bean as long as I live it will be too soon! grin
Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/20 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
Did you use sevin? It kills everything including the pollinators.

Nope. Spinosad once a week at dusk. Neem oil infrequently.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/20 02:13 PM

It's all about tomatoes with me. This batch is ready to go see my neighbors.

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This one is growing out of its cage. I had to stick a rod in there.

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/20 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
It's all about tomatoes with me. This batch is ready to go see my neighbors.

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This one is growing out of its cage. I had to stick a rod in there.

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clap up
They look mighty juicy!!
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/20 02:26 AM

Got more critters on my tomatoes. Went to brush off some white dusty material, and a white insect jumped out. It was like a white Mexican jumping bean. There were several of these on my biggest container plant.
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Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/20 04:20 PM

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and so it begins ... our little peach tree (Sam Houston) is starting to get ripe, my wife & I got two boxes like the one pictured off the tree yesterday and that was probably less than a quarter of the peaches. This seems a bit earlier than previous years as it is normally mid June when they start to ripen.
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/20 05:03 PM

I only got 3 peaches on my tree this year,still small and green. It had about 200 on it last year. I don't think it liked that warm winter we had. I think its a high-chill hours variety.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/20 05:44 PM

yep, mine is a Sam Houston and evidently it has a very low chill hour as it was in full bloom by mid January. I built protective panels out of garden Planket (fabric) that I would put up around the tree anytime it was forecast to freeze once the blooms were on, and the tiny little peaches, along with a dual quartz shop light to create some heat inside the enclosure. Last year the freeze got all my peaches with that late Feb. freeze where we only had 1 peach make it thru.

We thinned about 1/3+ of the peaches a month or so back to allow for larger fruit and preventing breaking the limbs and probably should have taken a few more. Here is a picture from a couple days ago before we started harvesting the ones that were ripe yesterday.

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/20 05:48 PM

Love peaches. I worked in my uncle's peach orchards in the summer after the crops were laid by.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/20 05:52 PM

Saw a bunch of the roadside hippies selling peaches along 281 north and south of Blanco and RR 12 West of San Marcos yesterday.
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/20 06:09 PM

I think my variety is Ranger.The tree is about 15 ft tall and the peaches are big as a cat's head. And tasty. Squirrels and Blue Jays destroyed over 100 peaches last year(not an exaggeration).
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/20 07:55 PM

these are about the size of a tennis ball, some slightly smaller. Very sweet, pop off the seeds easily. I have a frame built around the tree that is about 6' square by 9-10' tall that we normally wrap with bird netting once the peaches start getting a little pink on them. The net drapes down to the ground and we put rocks or boards on it to keep the squirrels at bay. We were late this year and never got it up ... but so far, we haven't had an issue.

a couple years back ... my wife said oh look, a squirrel is in the back yard, isn't he cute? ... a day or so later she saw it again but it was scampering across the back yard with a peach (or tomato) in it's mouth ... she then said get your gun and get rid of that thing. (yes, squirrels like both peaches and tomatoes, and I have killed several once they start taking "her" fruit).
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/20 09:02 PM

them peaches look good!
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/20 12:15 AM

Finally got to get a decent garden prepared this year (having an extra 3-hours a day from working @home/covid):
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First-time ever nice bedding rows thanks to my 'new homemade' bedding plow (some scrap 2x12 & baling wire on my box-blade):
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Tomatoes went from this:
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to this, in just a little over last 2 weeks, and I haven't even used irrigation yet (that's a yard-stick in the middle both pictures):
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They are loaded with small fruit, and more blossoms (they're really liking the composted chicken & cow poo tilled in earlier this year).

Got corn & okra(left) coming up nicely on an un-irrigated section, that catches all the rain/runoff:
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And a row of watermelons starting up nicely (that's the corn in the upper right off in the background):
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And finally, dessert , a whole 'hedgerow' 6' tall (I'm standing w/hand out) nd 100+ ft long, alongside the garden:
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Got peppers, cucumbers, cantaloupe, cherry-tomatoes, and some other stuff going too. Gonna be a good eating year!
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/20 03:06 AM

2 of my squash plants are a bit yellow, they've been blooming like crazy, they are kind of a pale green... I started watering them with a mix of cow manure, I know it made maters look a lot better...anything else I could do?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/20 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Finally got to get a decent garden prepared this year (having an extra 3-hours a day from working @home/covid):
[Linked Image]

First-time ever nice bedding rows thanks to my 'new homemade' bedding plow (some scrap 2x12 & baling wire on my box-blade):
[Linked Image]


Tomatoes went from this:
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to this, in just a little over last 2 weeks, and I haven't even used irrigation yet (that's a yard-stick in the middle both pictures):
[Linked Image]

They are loaded with small fruit, and more blossoms (they're really liking the composted chicken & cow poo tilled in earlier this year).

Got corn & okra(left) coming up nicely on an un-irrigated section, that catches all the rain/runoff:
[Linked Image]


And a row of watermelons starting up nicely (that's the corn in the upper right off in the background):
[Linked Image]

And finally, dessert , a whole 'hedgerow' 6' tall (I'm standing w/hand out) nd 100+ ft long, alongside the garden:
[Linked Image]

Got peppers, cucumbers, cantaloupe, cherry-tomatoes, and some other stuff going too. Gonna be a good eating year!



This in a gardening thread and you post up your truck farm. cheers
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/20 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
2 of my squash plants are a bit yellow, they've been blooming like crazy, they are kind of a pale green... I started watering them with a mix of cow manure, I know it made maters look a lot better...anything else I could do?



Sounds like squash bores to me. There was an article in the morning paper about how gardening was good for your mental health. They drove me crazy. I gave up on squash and zucchini for that reason.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/20 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by TCM3
2 of my squash plants are a bit yellow, they've been blooming like crazy, they are kind of a pale green... I started watering them with a mix of cow manure, I know it made maters look a lot better...anything else I could do?



Sounds like squash bores to me. There was an article in the morning paper about how gardening was good for your mental health. They drove me crazy. I gave up on squash and zucchini for that reason.

Thanks Bill! I'll do some reading up on them.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/20 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by PMK
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and so it begins ... our little peach tree (Sam Houston) is starting to get ripe, my wife & I got two boxes like the one pictured off the tree yesterday and that was probably less than a quarter of the peaches. This seems a bit earlier than previous years as it is normally mid June when they start to ripen.


Nice!up
dang frost nipped most of mine this year, and squirrels got all the ones that survived, even before they were ripe mad
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/20 03:23 PM

So one asked earlier, "how late is too late?" A new neighbor moved in over the weekend and started a spring garden. Looks as if we will find out.
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/20 07:56 PM

made 12 qts pickled beets today

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Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/20 08:01 PM

maters lookin good, not as good as oxners, but good

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/20 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by Poppa
maters lookin good, not as good as oxners, but good



I'm going to have to find a few new customers for my free tomatoes. Only one email thank you.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/20 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by Poppa
made 12 qts pickled beets today

yum food
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/20 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by Poppa
made 12 qts pickled beets today

yum food


Never bought one at the store. Always put them on my plate at salad bars. Supposed to have a lot of health benefits. Look it up..
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/20 12:19 AM

where ya at oldoak I will give ya some? im the only one that eats em here
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/20 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by Poppa
where ya at oldoak I will give ya some? im the only one that eats em here

I’m near Valley View- drive to Denton& Gainesville weekly.
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/20 06:21 PM

Don’t get that way often but if I do I’ll bring ya some
Posted By: snake oil

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/20 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Poppa
maters lookin good, not as good as oxners, but good



I'm going to have to find a few new customers for my free tomatoes. Only one email thank you.


I'll take some, will pm my e-mail soon. grin
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/20 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Poppa
Don’t get that way often but if I do I’ll bring ya some



Kind of you.
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/20 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Poppa
maters lookin good, not as good as oxners, but good



I'm going to have to find a few new customers for my free tomatoes. Only one email thank you.

How much to mail them?
Posted By: fmrmbmlm

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/20 03:47 AM

Like them with a little clove in them
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/20 10:29 PM

Me too. Water,vinegar, sugar and clove is my recipe, sometimes throw some sliced onion in
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/20 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by PMK
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and so it begins ... our little peach tree (Sam Houston) is starting to get ripe, my wife & I got two boxes like the one pictured off the tree yesterday and that was probably less than a quarter of the peaches. This seems a bit earlier than previous years as it is normally mid June when they start to ripen.


Nice!up
dang frost nipped most of mine this year, and squirrels got all the ones that survived, even before they were ripe mad

yep, frost or a freeze got us last year, only got 1 peach ... so this year, we were a lot more proactive and I built up 8'x8' frame using warped 1x4 and 2x2 (purple ends painted scrap at Home Depot 70% off) and garden plankette (garden cloth) cut to fit, stapled in place. any time was likely to get close to freezing, we would set these up to enclose the tree and put a dual headed quartz shop light inside as a heat source. Worked like a charm. Just had to remember when the chance of a freeze/frost went away to remove the plankettes until next time. This year was a bumper crop and I think we are up to 9 boxes like the picture along with a few friends have stopped by to get some in a shoe box size box.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/20 09:29 PM

Pan fried potatoes with onions, peppers, and venison links. Everything in there slept in my garden last night except the venison links.

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Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/20 09:27 PM

why aint my cukes makin fruit? they are blooming good, plant looks good, just no cukes? I have been thumping and rubbin the blooms?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/20 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by Poppa
why aint my cukes makin fruit? they are blooming good, plant looks good, just no cukes? I have been thumping and rubbin the blooms?



Only the shadow knows. I got two cucumbers last year and I'm getting plenty this year. Only two hills.

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I've been adding to this marinated salad for a month.
Posted By: S.A. hunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/20 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Poppa
why aint my cukes makin fruit? they are blooming good, plant looks good, just no cukes? I have been thumping and rubbin the blooms?



Only the shadow knows. I got two cucumbers last year and I'm getting plenty this year. Only two hills.

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I've been adding to this marinated salad for a month.

Nothing like a fresh cucumber. Salad looks good up
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/20 11:16 PM

that's what I was expecting by now. looks good!
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/20 11:18 PM

and the shadow aint telling!
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/20 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Pan fried potatoes with onions, peppers, and venison links. Everything in there slept in my garden last night except the venison links.

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Was it good?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/20 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by NORML as can be
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Pan fried potatoes with onions, peppers, and venison links. Everything in there slept in my garden last night except the venison links.

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Was it good?


It was great. Having leftovers tomorrow night. Its an old recipe that my momma made when I was growing up. I added the sausage.
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/20 04:38 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by NORML as can be
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Pan fried potatoes with onions, peppers, and venison links. Everything in there slept in my garden last night except the venison links.

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Was it good?


It was great. Having leftovers tomorrow night. Its an old recipe that my momma made when I was growing up. I added the sausage.

Still looks good, Don't take any crap from anybody about your camera. grin
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/20 01:06 PM

A random zucinni died. Not sure what happened. The rest look great.

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Posted By: S.A. hunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/20 01:09 PM

Cut open the stems, you might find a surprise.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/20 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by S.A. hunter
Cut open the stems, you might find a surprise.


Yep. Squash borers. I quit planting them for that reason
Posted By: Ders26

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/02/20 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by Poppa
why aint my cukes makin fruit? they are blooming good, plant looks good, just no cukes? I have been thumping and rubbin the blooms?

I am not sure of the timeline of your blooms. The male blooms show up first. My female blooms usually show up about 10 days after my first bloom. The female blooms are the blooms that produce the cucumbers.
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/20 11:26 AM

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/20 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by rickym
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Greatness. Ive used them in my marinated salads as well as my pan fried potatoes.

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Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/20 07:03 PM

Looks great Bill!
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/20 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by Ders26
Originally Posted by Poppa
why aint my cukes makin fruit? they are blooming good, plant looks good, just no cukes? I have been thumping and rubbin the blooms?

I am not sure of the timeline of your blooms. The male blooms show up first. My female blooms usually show up about 10 days after my first bloom. The female blooms are the blooms that produce the cucumbers.

yeah, I read that but ive had blooms for a month and they look good. we will see! thanks!
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/20 03:44 AM

Originally Posted by rickym
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Bugs got my squash.... They were blooming and growing good, turned yellow, blooms dropped off, and now they look like small squash plants instead of squash that's been growing for 3 months.... I started On proportional amounts of miracle gro to see if it will help em along.
Any other advice appreciated.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/20 11:24 AM

You might cover some of the bottom stalk with dirt and get new roots above the worm holes.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/20 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
You might cover some of the bottom stalk with dirt and get new roots above the worm holes.

up
Thanks bill, I'll give that a whirl.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/20 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Originally Posted by bill oxner
You might cover some of the bottom stalk with dirt and get new roots above the worm holes.

up
Thanks bill, I'll give that a whirl.



But a brick over the dirt.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/20 05:05 PM

My top crop of tomatoes are now coming in. Looks as if they will last a couple more weeks. There are still a few more slicers in there for my BLTs ,except today it was chicken salad.

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/20 09:51 PM

One of the squash plants is coming back, has buds coming out to bloom. 10 green tomatoes on 3 plants, 1 turning ripe, and 1 fell off in the wind last night, it's turning red, so I brought it in and put it in a window for sunlight to keep ripening
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/20 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
One of the squash plants is coming back, has buds coming out to bloom. 10 green tomatoes on 3 plants, 1 turning ripe, and 1 fell off in the wind last night, it's turning red, so I brought it in and put it in a window for sunlight to keep ripening


Bring them both in. They are previous.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/20 02:19 PM

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Here's the second one....
What causes the splits in it by the stem? The under side of the tomato is spotless. nidea
Got 11 more green tomatoes coming on.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/20 02:21 PM

uneven watering, water at the same time with the same amount
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/20 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
uneven watering, water at the same time with the same amount

up thanks Payne!
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/20 05:13 PM

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/20 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
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Greatness. Worth repeating.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/20 05:31 PM

One of the juiciest tomaters I ever ate.
Gave a slice to my Nephew, he devoured it.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/20 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
One of the juiciest tomaters I ever ate.
Gave a slice to my Nephew, he devoured it.



How many plants do you have.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/20 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by TCM3
One of the juiciest tomaters I ever ate.
Gave a slice to my Nephew, he devoured it.



How many plants do you have.

I planted 3, and have a total of 11 green tomatoes coming on..and more blooming...in hindsight I should have planted more.
They're doing great in the new spot.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/20 08:31 PM

up
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/20 07:02 PM

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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/20 07:49 PM

Looking good! I had to toss 3 in the trash yesterday, they had large wormholes bang
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/20 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Looking good! I had to toss 3 in the trash yesterday, they had large wormholes bang

sucks bang
I keep sevin dust on them, according to instructions on the container, never seen any bugs on them, or leaves.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/20 08:31 PM

No worms for me this year. I use Thuricide when I see worms.

DIRECTIONS FOR USE
Apply Thuricide BT Caterpillar Control when worms or caterpillars are first noticed, then repeat at five (5) to seven (7) day intervals while they are active. Apply more frequently to control heavy infestations. Apply thoroughly to top and bottom of foliage. Reapply after heavy rains.

That is what the Pecan Doctor used for webworms.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/20 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Looking good! I had to toss 3 in the trash yesterday, they had large wormholes bang

sucks bang
I keep sevin dust on them, according to instructions on the container, never seen any bugs on them, or leaves.


don't use sevin, besides causing cancer, it kills the pollinators.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/20 10:52 PM

Anything else that works as good?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/20 11:01 PM

chickens
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/20 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Looking good! I had to toss 3 in the trash yesterday, they had large wormholes bang


Mine are about done. Planning on leaving a couple for the green tomatoes for chow-chow.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/20 01:49 AM

I got one today just turning red. Have about a dozen total still on the three container plants. 2 of the plants are flourishing, one is just barely surviving. It was the healthiest early on, but it just didn’t like fertilizer. Tried a couple different types.
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/20 02:17 PM

My tomatoes are getting after it, they are loving these cooler mornings and setting lots of new fruit. Picked these yesterday and will have this many or more today.
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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/20 02:38 PM

Nice! A bumper crop.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/20 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Nice! A bumper crop.


Nailed it.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/20 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by Old Rabbit
My tomatoes are getting after it, they are loving these cooler mornings and setting lots of new fruit. Picked these yesterday and will have this many or more today.
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clap
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/20 12:04 AM

Saw a rabbit hopping away from my tomater plants this evening, not sure if he made it in, I added an extra wire on the electric fence
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/20 01:29 AM

got me some nice mators and the cukes finally started putting out
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/20 02:31 PM

out tomato plants are going crazy this year. We have 3 plants of slicers and 3 plants of cherry tomatoes, all are different varieties. a couple of the plants are about 6 feet tall and I need to add some additional support for them to continue growing. We are getting about a dozen + cherry and 4-6 slicers every other day. This is the best we have ever had on the production and haven't had any cut worms as of yet.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/17/20 11:51 AM

It's been my experience that you will not have cut worms after the plants ave matured.
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/17/20 01:37 PM

I have my dad's 1986 Troy-Bilt Pony tiller and the motor dropped the rod cap a few weeks ago. I finally rounded up all the parts needed and have it rebuilt and running almost like new. Got my rows tilled and my soaker hoses in place. This picture is of our green beans and a short row of okra that is just starting to bloom. Tomatoes are at the far end of the rows in an area covered on all sides with bird netting and chicken wire.
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/17/20 01:47 PM

Loved my Troy-Bilt.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/17/20 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by Old Rabbit
I have my dad's 1986 Troy-Bilt Pony tiller and the motor dropped the rod cap a few weeks ago. I finally rounded up all the parts needed and have it rebuilt and running almost like new. Got my rows tilled and my soaker hoses in place. This picture is of our green beans and a short row of okra that is just starting to bloom. Tomatoes are at the far end of the rows in an area covered on all sides with bird netting and chicken wire.
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Good ol troy bilts, my grandad has a Bronco tiller, bought in 01, motor was smoking and using oil like crazy.
he decided to put a Predator 212 on it, I installed it for him, bolted right up. 1 year later still tilling.
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/17/20 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by Old Rabbit
I have my dad's 1986 Troy-Bilt Pony tiller and the motor dropped the rod cap a few weeks ago. I finally rounded up all the parts needed and have it rebuilt and running almost like new. Got my rows tilled and my soaker hoses in place. This picture is of our green beans and a short row of okra that is just starting to bloom. Tomatoes are at the far end of the rows in an area covered on all sides with bird netting and chicken wire.
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what bird netting do you use? I gotta build a cover in the garden to keep the birds off the maters. nice looking garden btw. yall got some good dirt. you have a well or tap water?
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/20 03:03 AM

Bird's havent bothered or looked twice at my maters, they fly passed them all the time, cardinals do. But there is a big sunflower seeds feeder out near By so the Pickens are fat.
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/20 11:32 PM

I picked my largest ever tomato on Tuesday, it weighted 1 pound 5.5 ounces. [Linked Image]
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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/20 12:48 AM

eek2

That’s one huge mater!
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/20 01:20 AM

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Posted By: timbertoes

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/20 04:18 AM

Old Rabbit that’s a big garden plot! What do you do with all that food ?
Posted By: timbertoes

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/20 04:19 AM

Canned pickles today first time!
Lids popped so I’m feeling lucky!
Posted By: aerangis

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/20 04:21 AM

Originally Posted by Old Rabbit
I picked my largest ever tomato on Tuesday, it weighted 1 pound 5.5 ounces. [Linked Image]
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When I see tomatoes like that, I automatically think BLT. With pepper sprinkled liberally in the mayo.

A BLT is my fave sandwich. Well, that and a Jasons Deli Muffaleta smile
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/20 11:36 AM

Bacon turkey club for me. up
Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/20 12:00 PM

Big un!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/20 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by timbertoes
Canned pickles today first time!
Lids popped so I’m feeling lucky!



Love to hear those lids click. Especially without a hot bath. cheers
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/20 02:04 AM

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Posted By: aerangis

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/20 03:53 AM

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Posted By: aerangis

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/20 03:59 AM

Rabbit, the soil in your garden looks identical to that in my old mans garden. And he grows a big garden as well. Growing up during the depression he din't have much to eat if he didnt grow it, catch it, or kill it, so he continues to grow enough vegetables every summer to feed an army.

Walking out in the garden with a pocket knife and a salt & pepper shaker was a regular occurence in my youth. I was free labor, and he took advantage of it. My reward was eating damn good smile
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/20 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
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Looking good! I’ve had to cull half a dozen in the last 10 days due to worm holes. bang
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/23/20 01:07 PM

I had given up on my cucumbers, then came the rains and cool down. They put on a second growth. There are two verities of cucumbers on this trellis. This one in a burpless cucumber. I will be ready tomorrow.

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Same thing with my bell peppers and tomatoes. Here's a clump of a half dozen tomatoes.

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/23/20 01:35 PM

I definitely want to do More tomatoes next year...
Add Cucumbers too...
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/23/20 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
I definitely want to do More tomatoes next year...
Add Cucumbers too...



Great choice. Gardening is in my blood. My grandpas Evanoff emigrated from Bulgeria . He started with a truck garden and a fruit stand.

I grew a half acre of tomatoes of tomatoes to help pay for my first year in college. You can go to the store and buy most things that are as good as you can grow except home grown tomatoes. I thank Payne every day for this thread.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/20 02:53 AM

My tomato's seem to be alot more juicier.... just overall better tasting i think, than store bought....
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/20 03:02 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
My tomato's seem to be alot more juicier.... just overall better tasting i think, than store bought....


Homegrown Maters are always better than the store bought.
Posted By: maximum

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/20 03:25 AM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Originally Posted by TCM3
My tomato's seem to be alot more juicier.... just overall better tasting i think, than store bought....


Homegrown Maters are always better than the store bought.


That's ^ ^ ^ ^ an absolute truth ! !
Posted By: maximum

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/20 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
I had given up on my cucumbers, then came the rains and cool down. They put on a second growth. There are two verities of cucumbers on this trellis. This one in a burpless cucumber. I will be ready tomorrow.

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Same thing with my bell peppers and tomatoes. Here's a clump of a half dozen tomatoes.

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For whatever reason, I can't get bell peppers to grow
anymore. They'll either not germinate, or they'll grow
and the fruits will get about nickel sized and wither.
I gave up and went all banana and jalapenos this year.

I must say I'm jealous of those nice bell peppers
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/20 04:38 AM

Originally Posted by maximum


For whatever reason, I can't get bell peppers to grow
anymore. They'll either not germinate, or they'll grow
and the fruits will get about nickel sized and wither.
I gave up and went all banana and jalapenos this year.

I must say I'm jealous of those nice bell peppers


If you were planting bell peppers in the same place every year, it could be why. Peppers are one of those vegetables that require crop rotation. I had the same problem with Jalapenos and tomatoes until I figured out it was because I was planting them in the same place every year.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/20 12:27 PM

You might also try a different variety. I mix varieties.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/20 06:45 PM

Now getting covered up w/ maters & cucumbers! even sweet corn is just about ready...
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some whoppers!
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cherry maters exploding:
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squash coming along:
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and cantaloupes:
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and Watermelons ...
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even a row of 'dove bait' coming on nicely:
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and their this tall!
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'Covid' has been a good year for the garden, at least!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/20 08:51 PM

Wow. Watermelons are early.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/20 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Now getting covered up w/ maters & cucumbers! even sweet corn is just about ready...
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some whoppers!
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cherry maters exploding:
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squash coming along:
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and cantaloupes:
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and Watermelons ...
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even a row of 'dove bait' coming on nicely:
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and their this tall!
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'Covid' has been a good year for the garden, at least!



clap clap up
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/20 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by timbertoes
Old Rabbit that’s a big garden plot! What do you do with all that food ?

We can a lot of tomatoes, freeze and can green beans (over 250 1# packages last year + quarts), freeze okra, blanch and freeze purple hull peas and my wife is making pickles this year. We have 3 kids with their families that get as much of it as they want. We give a lot of it away once we are getting close to full in the pantry and freezer. Watermelons and cantaloupes are putting on now, should have melons for the 4th.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/20 11:53 PM

Found an easy way to make pickles if you have just a few cucumbers. Simply pack slices or spheres in your jar with dill or spices. Pour brine over the cucumbers leaving a half inch space. Stick the jar in the microwave for three minutes and leave out a couple of days before refrigerating..this was a burpless cucumber which is not known as a pickling cucumber in an old store bought jar. I will leave it out a couple of days before refrigerating. It will have the texture and taste of a deli pickle.

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Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/20 04:50 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Found an easy way to make pickles if you have just a few cucumbers. Simply pack slices or spheres in your jar with dill or spices. Pour brine over the cucumbers leaving a half inch space. Stick the jar in the microwave for three minutes and leave out a couple of days before refrigerating..this was a burpless cucumber which is not known as a pickling cucumber in an old store bought jar. I will leave it out a couple of days before refrigerating. It will have the texture and taste of a deli pickle.

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interesting, let us know if they are good or hold up
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/20 11:44 AM

I keep them refrigerated. Never make more than a few pints.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/20 04:27 PM

I think I got duped when I bought my maters.
I thought I bought 3 beefsteak tomatoes... The big ones...well, 2 plants produce smaller ones that ripen quickly.
I have one plant that is far bigger than the other 2 and its producing BIG green ones.... Not ripe yet though. juggle
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/20 06:10 PM

My beefsteak plant was a bust also. I don’t think it cared for living in a container. It didn’t like fertilizer either. I’ve got one tomato on it, then it’ll probably be done. My 2 hybrid bushes still have quite a few maters, it just take along time for them to ripen. I’ve been picking when I get any sign of redness. Any longer and the worms get to them. They also been splitting on the tops.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/20 07:10 PM

My beefsteak has 2 big ones, and a few smaller ones coming on... Same here picking them as soon they turn a bit red... i made the mistake of letting one go too long, grabbed it and *smush*.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/20 07:17 PM

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the beefsteak's are the first two, they both fill up the palm of my hand, and are getting bigger...
the 3rd pic are average size of what i've been getting, maybe a little smaller.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/20 08:44 PM

Seems as if they slow down at that stage.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/20 12:09 AM

My Lime tree is doing good this year. At least a dozen on it.
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Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/20 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
My Lime tree is doing good this year. At least a dozen on it.


Nice!
Just in time for some 'organic' margaritas!!! roflmao
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/20 01:04 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
I think I got duped when I bought my maters.
I thought I bought 3 beefsteak tomatoes... The big ones...well, 2 plants produce smaller ones that ripen quickly.
I have one plant that is far bigger than the other 2 and its producing BIG green ones.... Not ripe yet though. juggle


yeah, our Atwoods had a wider variety this year, so besides my 'regulars' a got a couple of 'Sweet 100' - to try them - new to me , and my wife also bought 2.
uh, nobody told me that these were '6' tall prolific cherry tomato factories'!!
I do love cherry tomatoes, and had already had half-dozen of my regular size plants (started from seed)
but now we are just buried in them - picking like 50 per day or so!! I'm popping them like m&m's all day!
This pic is After picking the 20 or so ripe ones...
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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/20 02:13 AM

W O W!!!!
Posted By: S.A. hunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/20 02:16 AM

I know this isn't considered gardening, but does anyone here know anything about Orchids? I cant get mine to bloom.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/20 02:35 AM

Originally Posted by S.A. hunter
I know this isn't considered gardening, but does anyone here know anything about Orchids? I cant get mine to bloom.

gotta baby it (let it rest,fertilize,trim), and then it needs 60degree temp for a month to bloom.
Posted By: jetdad

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/20 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
My beefsteak plant was a bust also. I don’t think it cared for living in a container. It didn’t like fertilizer either. I’ve got one tomato on it, then it’ll probably be done. My 2 hybrid bushes still have quite a few maters, it just take along time for them to ripen. I’ve been picking when I get any sign of redness. Any longer and the worms get to them. They also been splitting on the tops.


Mine are splitting as well. What causes this and what can I do about it?
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/20 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
uneven watering, water at the same time with the same amount


Jetdad, I had the same problem.. I actually stopped watering. Got enough rain showers and so far no more splits.
Posted By: S.A. hunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/20 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by S.A. hunter
I know this isn't considered gardening, but does anyone here know anything about Orchids? I cant get mine to bloom.

gotta baby it (let it rest,fertilize,trim), and then it needs 60degree temp for a month to bloom.

Okay cool I've had three for years. Cats and dogs have set them back but I manage to keep them alive and healthy, but they've only bloomed twice. Damn how to keep temps at 60 for a month is gonna be a problem.
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/20 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
My Lime tree is doing good this year. At least a dozen on it.
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nice! cant leave them out around here, too cold/freeze in the winter
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/20 08:30 PM

Neighbors grow seedless satsumas.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/20 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Neighbors grow seedless satsumas.

Aren't they like Oranges?
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/20 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by Poppa
Originally Posted by TCM3
My Lime tree is doing good this year. At least a dozen on it.
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nice! cant leave them out around here, too cold/freeze in the winter

Freeze cloth will work wonders... Kept this one under one when hit 17 degrees one night. and didn't get above freezing the next day.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/20 02:44 AM

My best single tomato plant I think I have ever grown!
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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/20 02:54 AM

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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/20 01:06 PM

up
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/20 01:30 PM



A couple of sleepers.

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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/20 03:06 PM

eek2
Posted By: BigPig

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/20 04:08 AM

We started with 2 celebrity tomato plants in 15 gallon pots. They produced some small yet delicious tomatoes. They haven’t produced anything in several weeks, but have put on substantial growth. What gives?

Also, we put out poblano, jalapeños, and nacho peppers in 15 gallon pots. The poblano is about 10 inches tall with 1 pepper that’s 4 inches long and turning colors. 1 small jalapeño on a 10 inch tall plant. They have brushed out nicely, but won’t put on height. What gives?
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/20 04:43 AM

What did you use for soil in your pots cause that makes no sense!!
Posted By: BigPig

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/20 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
What did you use for soil in your pots cause that makes no sense!!



Whatever the nursery recommended. It was their proprietary blend
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/20 01:16 PM

Try some fertilizer
Posted By: topwater13

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/20 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by BigPig
We started with 2 celebrity tomato plants in 15 gallon pots. They produced some small yet delicious tomatoes. They haven’t produced anything in several weeks, but have put on substantial growth. What gives?

Also, we put out poblano, jalapeños, and nacho peppers in 15 gallon pots. The poblano is about 10 inches tall with 1 pepper that’s 4 inches long and turning colors. 1 small jalapeño on a 10 inch tall plant. They have brushed out nicely, but won’t put on height. What gives?


More than likely, it has been too hot for the tomatoes to set. Some tomatoes can take heat more than others and still set, while others cannot. Potted plants are more susceptible to this because the roots/soil are always above ground and warmer than normal. Dark pots are even worse. The one potted tomato I have has quit setting as well.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/20 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by topwater13
Originally Posted by BigPig
We started with 2 celebrity tomato plants in 15 gallon pots. They produced some small yet delicious tomatoes. They haven’t produced anything in several weeks, but have put on substantial growth. What gives?

Also, we put out poblano, jalapeños, and nacho peppers in 15 gallon pots. The poblano is about 10 inches tall with 1 pepper that’s 4 inches long and turning colors. 1 small jalapeño on a 10 inch tall plant. They have brushed out nicely, but won’t put on height. What gives?


More than likely, it has been too hot for the tomatoes to set. Some tomatoes can take heat more than others and still set, while others cannot. Potted plants are more susceptible to this because the roots/soil are always above ground and warmer than normal. Dark pots are even worse. The one potted tomato I have has quit setting as well.


I had new neighbors who planted their garden on Labor Day. The tomatoes bloomed but did not set. The plants are still lush. Maybe this fall.
Posted By: Sneaky

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/02/20 02:06 AM

Anyone know what pepper this is? I have two plants, and they were both labeled as Anaheim green chiles. They don’t look like any green chile I’ve ever seen. I think they were labeled wrong. The plants look like the rest of my green chile varieties, and they will turn bright red when they’re fully ripe. They have some heat, too. Nothing overwhelming, but noticeable. I’ve looked, and I can’t figure it out.

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Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/02/20 02:28 AM

looks like a tomatillo (sp) never heard them called a pepper or chile
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/02/20 02:48 AM

Sneaky, do they have a husk around them when small?
Posted By: Sneaky

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/02/20 03:39 AM

No. No husk. It does look a lot like a tomatillo, just without the husk. It’s definitely a pepper.
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/02/20 05:38 AM

Cherry pepper.
Posted By: Sneaky

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/02/20 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by rickym
Cherry pepper.


That sure looks and sounds like it, after looking it up. Thanks Ricky.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/03/20 08:38 PM

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picked the first limes off my tree!
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/03/20 08:39 PM

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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/03/20 08:40 PM

I’d like to squeeze half of one of those into a glass of crown and water!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/03/20 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
I’d like to squeeze half of one of those into a glass of crown and water!



Two more hours for me.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/04/20 02:08 PM

Watermelon. Watermelon, big and fine. Eat the meat, pickle the rind, save the seed until planting time.

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I gave my neighbor half my garden and cut back on my side. I'm still growing more than I need. Had a big open space in the middle. i worked up 3 hills and bought a package of watermelon seed. I should have enough melons to share with my whole neighborhood. My cucumbers started growing again. I'm calling it a third growth. Here you go.

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/04/20 02:33 PM

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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/04/20 03:00 PM

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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/04/20 03:02 PM

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/04/20 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Watermelon. Watermelon, big and fine. Eat the meat, pickle the rind, save the seed until planting time.

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I gave my neighbor half my garden and cut back on my side. I'm still growing more than I need. Had a big open space in the middle. i worked up 3 hills and bought a package of watermelon seed. I should have enough melons to share with my whole neighborhood. My cucumbers started growing again. I'm calling it a third growth. Here you go.

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The cucumbers are burpless. You don't have to peel them.. I keep adding them to my brine from my original marinade salad.

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Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/05/20 12:01 AM

gonna make some pickles tommorow

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Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/05/20 12:04 AM

here is my bird video

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/05/20 03:33 AM

Originally Posted by Poppa
gonna make some pickles tommorow

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/05/20 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Originally Posted by Poppa
gonna make some pickles tommorow

clap


Sweet, sour. or bread and butter?
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/05/20 01:41 PM

Sure does take a long time for my maters to turn red these days.
Posted By: jetdad

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/05/20 04:24 PM

Is it the heat?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/05/20 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Sure does take a long time for my maters to turn red these days.


Time stands still for me.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/05/20 07:04 PM

My wife, 2 boys and me stayed the night at her aunt’s house last night. She sent all this home from her garden. Zucchini, maters, Basil, jalapeño, Tabasco’s, some dill, lettuce. The rains fired her garden up good this year

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/05/20 09:02 PM

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/05/20 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
My wife, 2 boys and me stayed the night at her aunt’s house last night. She sent all this home from her garden. Zucchini, maters, Basil, jalapeño, Tabasco’s, some dill, lettuce. The rains fired her garden up good this year

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You have the makings of a great marinated salad. Blanch the zucchini first.

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The dill weed adds a little panache
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/05/20 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by TCM3
Originally Posted by Poppa
gonna make some pickles tommorow

clap


Sweet, sour. or bread and butter?

dill and bread & butter. but didn't happen today. prolly Tuesday, gotta haul some furniture for the daughter tomorrow.
Posted By: Ders26

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/06/20 01:32 PM

Does anyone have suggestions on how to tell when to pick watermelons? This is my first year growing them. I will do some online looking but wanted to ask the group there opinion.
Posted By: jetdad

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/06/20 01:50 PM

The first tendril above the fruit will begin to wither. Also if the melon has been sitting on one side it will be yellow instead of white where it has been in contact with the ground.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/06/20 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by jetdad
The first tendril above the fruit will begin to wither. Also if the melon has been sitting on one side it will be yellow instead of white where it has been in contact with the ground.



We called it the curl when I was growing u..

I picked my last tomatoes Friday. I'm now down to. Hand watering. Only have one hill of cucumbers and three hills of melons.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/06/20 02:16 PM

Got 5 maters on kitchen counter just about ready to eat, will pick 2 more this afternoon to bring in. Got a few growing still.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/06/20 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Got 5 maters on kitchen counter just about ready to eat, will pick 2 more this afternoon to bring in. Got a few growing still.


cheers
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/06/20 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by timbertoes
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Nice! - we got 4 on the vines getting close.
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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/06/20 06:13 PM

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Oops - I went a few days without picking
- filled the 7x7x7 box and there were still some on the bushes... eeks333
Only 3 bushes of these planted! I'm guessing about 320 in the box - I gave up counting around 150 (half-full) while picking!

Peppers are starting to come on nicely:
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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/06/20 06:23 PM

Anybody growing any peas? Wife and I made a quick trip to Luling on Friday. I went to the produce market, she hit the quilt store. I picked up a bag of Lima’s and three of black eyes.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/07/20 04:29 PM

Finally picked one of my big ones.....got 4 1/2 big slices off this one. Bigger than the palm of my hand m
Other one should be ready in another day.
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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/07/20 06:08 PM

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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/07/20 11:53 PM

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/20 12:14 AM

Turkey figs?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/20 12:48 AM

Not sure. Everbearings (Turkey) ripen around May. Celeste (Malta) ripen around late June to July. I'm going with Celeste.

Interesting fig fact: The fig fruit is an inverted flower with both the male and female flower parts enclosed in stem tissue.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/20 01:09 AM

Did the tree come with the house?
Posted By: MRR

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/20 02:34 AM

Garden is doing good this year but it has been a constant battle against aphids

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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/20 02:52 AM

Looks great!
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/20 04:22 AM

Originally Posted by Chickenman
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Ahhh, I miss figs. Had 2 great trees place we sold- had to start from scratch this new place.......some day....
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/20 03:32 PM

Icebox dills. My cucumbers are still making. Decided I'd make more pickles. I ran out of old pickle jars and found a plastic container in my pantry. I covered them with the lid. I'll let them set out until they turn color then refrigerate. I use the recipe that is on the box of Mortans Pickling and Canning salt except I don't blanch.

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Posted By: topwater13

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/20 04:49 PM

I don't know if its been said here before, but planting marigolds around your garden will keep all insects away. Especially aphids and tomato worms.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/20 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by topwater13
I don't know if its been said here before, but planting marigolds around your garden will keep all insects away. Especially aphids and tomato worms.



Worth repeating..
Posted By: topwater13

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/20 09:00 PM

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A few pics from this year. Not all, but some.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/20 09:23 PM

Pure greatness. cheers
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/20 09:25 PM

I only do a single row garden every year and rotate through different vegetables. Other than that I will grow some stuff around the yard. Here is what I grew this summer. Okra for my main row crop. Ornamental too as I varied the colors. Silver Queen, Alabama Red, Cajun Delight, and Red Burgundy is in the mix. The turtle pen fence is covered in Chinese Yardlong Bean and some Chinese Python Snake Bean mixed in. Last the wife wanted a "bee garden" so I plated a small plot of Autumn Beauty Sunflowers in the back yard.

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/20 11:02 PM

Bees are the GOATS.. There is a bee keeper across the road from me.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/09/20 12:58 AM

I'm definitely doing not tomatoes next year.I'm impressed.
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Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/09/20 02:24 AM

Originally Posted by topwater13
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A few pics from this year. Not all, but some.

Nice haul there - those peppers look great!
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/09/20 02:27 AM

Originally Posted by Sniper John
I only do a single row garden every year and rotate through different vegetables. Other than that I will grow some stuff around the yard. Here is what I grew this summer. Okra for my main row crop. Ornamental too as I varied the colors. Silver Queen, Alabama Red, Cajun Delight, and Red Burgundy is in the mix. The turtle pen fence is covered in Chinese Yardlong Bean and some Chinese Python Snake Bean mixed in. Last the wife wanted a "bee garden" so I plated a small plot of Autumn Beauty Sunflowers in the back yard.
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Your okra looks great! Nice yard!
I finally got some okra in this year, and it’s doing really well - already had first pot of jambalaya with it!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/09/20 03:29 PM

They are up, they are growing, and I got a good stand. Guess time will now stand still.

Photos are from three different hills.

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/10/20 03:40 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
They are up, they are growing, and I got a good stand. Guess time will now stand still.

Photos are from three different hills.

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Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/11/20 06:28 AM

Wish I lived next door to you.
Posted By: krmitchell

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/11/20 05:32 PM

Question for the green thumbs out there. Anyone had a tomato plant that didn’t stop growing? It’s about 6 feet tall by 6 feet wide and almost the same deep. It isn’t really producing a lot of tomatoes yet and the damn thing keeps getting bigger. I’m running out of tposts to hold it up. Any thoughts?

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Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/11/20 05:42 PM

^^^^^^ You probably gave it too much nitrogen,all leaves,few fruit. Temps are so high now it probably wont set fruit anyway until late september. Keep trimming it back and nurse it through the summer and maybe you'll get a late crop before the first freeze.
Posted By: krmitchell

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/11/20 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by swampthang
^^^^^^ You probably gave it too much nitrogen,all leaves,few fruit. Temps are so high now it probably wont set fruit anyway until late september. Keep trimming it back and nurse it through the summer and maybe you'll get a late crop before the first freeze.


Interesting on the nitrogen. I just planted this thing, watered it and It never stopped growing. Didn’t think about the soil. Thanks.
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/11/20 06:07 PM

I only planted 2 Early Girls this year and they also got huge and unruly. They did produce tons of big tasty tomatoes though. Done dug them up and trashed them,they were just too out of control.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/11/20 10:38 PM

My 3 container mater plants are still producing a few maters. And I’ve got a few blooms also. I’ve had to cull a few more, worms, or large cracks, on 1”-2” fruit.
On another note, this morning I moved them from the bed of the mule to the ground for a couple hours. I needed to use the mule. This afternoon while watering, I noticed one plant was missing top 1/4 of leaves. Took about a minute, but I found the matured hornworm that did the damage. It was as big as my index finger. It got smashed.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/11/20 10:48 PM

You can use BT for the horn worms, it's organic and won't harm the pollinators.


this is what I use, I buy the four pound bags. I like marigolds better.

https://www.amazon.com/VOLUNTARY-PU...nsecticide&qid=1594507556&sr=8-5
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/11/20 11:12 PM

Dispel is what my pecan Tree Doctor uses.
Posted By: fmrmbmlm

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/12/20 03:03 AM

Early Girls are indeterminate and will keep growing as long as they have adequate moisture. You can pinch the growing tips off when they get the height you want. They can easily reach 8 ft. or more if left to grow. Always been very good and consistent producer.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/13/20 09:27 PM

all of our plants (variety, 3 slicers & 3 cherry) are still producing like crazy. a couple of the slicers are well past 6 feet tall where we put a vine trestles up and tied up in a big oak tree to support the tops. This is by far the best producing year we have ever had in our little 4x8 elevated garden ... I guess the extra 8-10 inches of garden soil I added really boosted things along.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/13/20 10:49 PM

Greatness. Mine is done except for my watermelons.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/14/20 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by PMK
all of our plants (variety, 3 slicers & 3 cherry) are still producing like crazy. a couple of the slicers are well past 6 feet tall where we put a vine trestles up and tied up in a big oak tree to support the tops. This is by far the best producing year we have ever had in our little 4x8 elevated garden ... I guess the extra 8-10 inches of garden soil I added really boosted things along.


Got any pictures pf your set up? Would really like to see it grin
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/14/20 03:48 PM

here are a few from this morning
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Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/14/20 03:50 PM

and looks like the asparagus is about ready to trim the ferns and let 'er rip. we trimmed one mineral bucket last weekend and already getting some good stems

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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/15/20 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by PMK
and looks like the asparagus is about ready to trim the ferns and let 'er rip. we trimmed one mineral bucket last weekend and already getting some good stems

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How do you like that galvanized tub? Does it have any drain holes?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/15/20 12:47 AM

Never was able to grow asparagus this far south. My sister up in Arkansas planted. It only once ant it kept returning each year like weeds.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/15/20 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by PMK
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Very impressive that your plants have the green leaves for this time of year. Especially how close together they are!
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/15/20 02:04 PM

Looking good.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/15/20 03:27 PM

yep, we have had tomatoes for years but they are usually burned up by this time of year and quite producing. Those pictures were from yesterday by the way. The soil had compacted, so I added in probably 8+ inches of garden soil that I picked up 2 cubic yards in my dump trailer from Gardenville, which is blended with high compost for gardens. I lightly sprinkled 13-13-13 over the top and took a spading fork to break up the old soil and blend in the new soil & fertilizer. We planted a bit late due to having numerous rains back in early spring, but this has been by far the most productive year so far.

as for as asparagus, we started off with the oblong galvanized water trough about 4 years ago. I drilled a dozen or so 1/4 drain holes then placed some 1-2" diameter round river rocks for drainage, then filled up with garden soil. The trough works very well except during very cold winters. About 3 years ago, we had a number of days where the temp dipped into the teens and the following season there was minimal ferns that popped up down the middle, I suspect those closer to the outside edges froze. We ordered 2 different varieties 2 years ago, broke up the soil in the trough and planted most of the clusters. We had several more clusters, so we used the plastic tubs to finish out. The trough was left over from when I used to have horses and it wasn't being used any longer, so repurposed it to one asparagus bed.
Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/17/20 09:24 PM

Those are looking good PMK. Mine are playing out but still have some new growth but they're looking pretty tired.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/17/20 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by greenen
Those are looking good PMK. Mine are playing out but still have some new growth but they're looking pretty tired.


I took mine down this week.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/17/20 11:50 PM

I’ve still got a few tomatoes on my 3 container plants, but very slow to turn red. I water in the morning and the evening. Thinking if we could get a shower, that would give them a little boost.
Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/18/20 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
I’ve still got a few tomatoes on my 3 container plants, but very slow to turn red. I water in the morning and the evening. Thinking if we could get a shower, that would give them a little boost.

Definitely needed here.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/20/20 02:15 PM

one of my slicer tomato plants I am getting some nasty looking spots (see pictures). Both of these tomatoes are about 5-6 feet off the ground, on one of the climbing stalks.
Any ideas what might be causing this???
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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/20/20 02:17 PM

My tomater plants are blooming again, and I have 3 small ones starting.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/20/20 03:52 PM

PMK blossom end rot
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/20/20 05:35 PM

Payne, what causes that? only on one plant and it just started about a week ago and only up on the upper portion of the plant
Posted By: jetdad

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/20/20 05:44 PM

Usually a calcium deficiency.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/20/20 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by jetdad
Usually a calcium deficiency.



I've been using wood ash under mine for several years and had no problems. Its been my experience that you will get a few good tomatoes later from the plants that produced the blossom end rot.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/20/20 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by jetdad
Usually a calcium deficiency.


That and over watering the plants and/or too much fertilizer. I would get on a watering schedule and stop using a bunch of fertilizer if that's what you have been doing. it happens to everyone, I wouldn't worry about it too much, it's an easy fix. Good Luck..
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/20/20 06:33 PM

Sprinkle a little epsom salt around the base of the plant might help as well.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/20/20 06:45 PM

definitely not over-watering I wouldn't think, usually every other day to every third day (when my wife remembers) and never every day. Even then, sometimes in the morning, sometimes in the evening when really hot.

I haven't added any fertilizer since preparing the bed back in March. I added 6-8 inches of garden soil and a light sprinkling of 13-13-13, then tilled it all together. That was 3-4 months ago, the plants have been producing well for the past month to 6 weeks, this just showed up last week. And it has only shown up on one plant with the tomatoes way up high (5+ feet).
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/20/20 07:32 PM

I wouldn't worry about it much, sounds like they're not getting the nutrients that high.
Posted By: jetdad

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/20/20 07:48 PM

They can get it easier when the plant is stressed. Maybe the heat? It's been hot and dry up by me. I put a bone meal based fertilizer on mine but there are a number of things you can do to combat it.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/21/20 02:58 PM

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we are getting about this many every 3-4 days. All the cherry tomato plants are still blooming and have multiple clumps. The slicers seem to be slowing a bit finally.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/21/20 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by PMK

we are getting about this many every 3-4 days. All the cherry tomato plants are still blooming and have multiple clumps. The slicers seem to be slowing a bit finally.


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Those slicers look like mini-pumpkins!
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/21/20 04:26 PM

Okra is coming on nice now - about a pound every couple days:
Most is going into freezer now - 1# baggies; but I do foresee pickled okra in my future!
I like'em raw too!
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/21/20 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by PMK

we are getting about this many every 3-4 days. All the cherry tomato plants are still blooming and have multiple clumps. The slicers seem to be slowing a bit finally.


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Those slicers look like mini-pumpkins!



I call them cat faced. Fine eating.
Posted By: aerangis

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/21/20 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Okra is coming on nice now - about a pound every couple days:
Most is going into freezer now - 1# baggies; but I do foresee pickled okra in my future!
I like'em raw too!
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Perfect pickling okra up
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/21/20 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Okra is coming on nice now - about a pound every couple days:
Most is going into freezer now - 1# baggies; but I do foresee pickled okra in my future!
I like'em raw too!
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Have to change your name to oldoakra.. bolt
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/21/20 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3

Have to change your name to oldoakra.. bolt

rofl
nuts
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Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/21/20 10:22 PM

PMK when you say slicer tomatos do you remember the name like Big Boy or Patio?
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/21/20 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by Wilhunt
PMK when you say slicer tomatos do you remember the name like Big Boy or Patio?

I'll take a look, we put the little plastic labels next to the plant so we know what they are ... stay tuned (I think we have 3 different varieties on the slicers). I recall one being Celebrity (cause my wife always remembers that one)
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/21/20 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by PMK
Originally Posted by Wilhunt
PMK when you say slicer tomatos do you remember the name like Big Boy or Patio?

I'll take a look, we put the little plastic labels next to the plant so we know what they are ... stay tuned (I think we have 3 different varieties on the slicers). I recall one being Celebrity (cause my wife always remembers that one)


Celebrity and better boy for me. I only grow slicers.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/22/20 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by PMK
Originally Posted by Wilhunt
PMK when you say slicer tomatos do you remember the name like Big Boy or Patio?

I'll take a look, we put the little plastic labels next to the plant so we know what they are ... stay tuned (I think we have 3 different varieties on the slicers). I recall one being Celebrity (cause my wife always remembers that one)

I finally remembered to look while out at the garden. One plant is Celebrity, one is Genuwine Beefsteak (the one that looks like miniature pumpkin) and the third I have no idea (grandkids or dog stole the little plastic stake with type on it).
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/22/20 05:26 PM

Anybody have any peas growing!
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/22/20 08:17 PM

Thanks PMK I have had good luck with celebrity but don't think I have ever planted beefsteak.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/22/20 11:06 PM

Oldoak packed a pint of pickled okra!
say that 10x fast!
(actually a half/pint):)
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I helped out mom for years, but this is my first time canning anything, solo.
Figured I'd try one tiny jar first, before I create a bunker of inedible stuff.
Gonna try to make some zesty 'refrigerator pickles' next ala Oxner style... up
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/20 12:18 AM

clap
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/20 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Oldoak packed a pint of pickled okra!
say that 10x fast!
(actually a half/pint):)
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I helped out mom for years, but this is my first time canning anything, solo.
Figured I'd try one tiny jar first, before I create a bunker of inedible stuff.
Gonna try to make some zesty 'refrigerator pickles' next ala Oxner style... up


Yep. Had icebox dill chips today with my ham and Swiss sandwiches.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/20 02:59 PM

Never had much luck with cantaloupe , till this year:
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This one I picked today is a whopper!
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/20 03:48 PM

May try them next year. Thanks a bunch for posting.
Posted By: jetdad

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/20 04:04 PM

What variety? Looks like you waited until full slip to pick them. I'll bet they are sweet. The ones you get in the store have usually been picked too early and don't have a very high sugar content.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/20 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by jetdad
What variety? Looks like you waited until full slip to pick them. I'll bet they are sweet. The ones you get in the store have usually been picked too early and don't have a very high sugar content.

Wife bought seeds this year - HeirLoom - 'Hale's Best Jumbo' - every seed came up & thrived!

With working from home/Covid, it's easy for me to check couple times a day - 100 steps away from keyboard/screen,
so yes, we maximized time on the vine - they are amazingly sweet and flavorful,
just like fresh ripe peaches straight from the tree (which I didn't get any of this year due to late frost frown )

I'm saving a bunch of the seeds from the big ones - gotta have a half-pound of dried seed by now! smile
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/20 08:54 PM

Ever had Pecos cantelopes?


https://www.texascooppower.com/texas-stories/nature-outdoors/the-truth-about-pecos-cantaloupes
Posted By: jetdad

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/24/20 02:28 AM

One of the folks mentioned and quoted in the article is a good friend of mine. They used to grow a lot of melons.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/26/20 01:11 AM

My watermelons are doing fine.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/26/20 04:43 AM

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Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/01/20 03:44 PM

My okra is only waist high, but have already put about 10lbs into freezer sliced,
and finally some pints of Pickled Okra for storage shelf!
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food
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/01/20 03:59 PM

Also made some 'refrigerator pickles' ala Oxner - (jelly jar in foreground).
They were so tasty {Thanks Bill!!}, I went ahead and canned a few quarts (background) for long-term storage!
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/01/20 04:16 PM

My pleasure. That's what this thread is all about.

Edit. That's what THF is all about.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/01/20 05:42 PM

clap up
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/01/20 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
My pleasure. That's what this thread is all about.

Edit. That's what THF is all about.

Where do you come up with the nice things you say?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/01/20 10:57 PM

Finally. Taste better than it looks. The jagged edges edges were caused by the watermelon popping wide open when I stuck the point of the knife in. You know the feeling when you cut a vine ripened watermelon. Going to make some my neighborhood children happy.

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/02/20 12:35 AM

WooooooWeeeeee looks good Mr. Bill!!!!! clap
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/02/20 01:17 AM

Yum!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/03/20 01:48 PM

Muffin and I are delivering a few today on my Gator.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/03/20 03:58 PM

nice gesture Mr. Bill!!! I've never been able to grow any type of melon
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/03/20 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by PMK
nice gesture Mr. Bill!!! I've never been able to grow any type of melon


Have a neighbor who grows them every year. I tried a few years ago and got one lopsided melon. Tried again this year and got over a half dozen.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/03/20 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Muffin and I are delivering a few today on my Gator.



This was try first reply from a neighbor.


"Looks good, tastes great! Nearly popped open when I cut it. Thanks again!
Houston"


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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/05/20 09:28 PM

I will plant a different verity if I plant watermelons again. Theses were sweet enough but as much rind as meat.
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/07/20 08:35 PM

I need to put a garden plan together because I can't grow chit. All I get are peppers and $100 squash and tomatoes.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/07/20 09:01 PM

I can go to the store and buy any produce except home grown tomatoes. I still plant cucumbers and peppers just to fill out my row. I no longer grow a fall garden. I just finished taking down my cages. Its at least 95° out there.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/07/20 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
I need to put a garden plan together because I can't grow chit. All I get are peppers and $100 squash and tomatoes.


Where are you located?
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/08/20 03:44 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Muffin and I are delivering a few today on my Gator.



This was try first reply from a neighbor.


"Looks good, tastes great! Nearly popped open when I cut it. Thanks again!
Houston"


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Looks great Bill!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/08/20 08:37 PM

Rain. Just in time to soften up my garden and till it. Should be great foe an early of volunteer cilantro.

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/21/20 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Rain. Just in time to soften up my garden and till it. Should be great for an early of volunteer cilantro.

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The sower came today. I will till this weekend. There are five gardeners in my subdivision. I took each one on them a spade full of my tilled soil. They also have fresh cilantro.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/22/20 01:17 AM

Send some of that moisture west.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/22/20 01:33 PM

The tiller started on the first pull. The soil was a little too gummy but I went ahead and tilled anyway. Pass the Benadryl cream please.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/25/20 05:58 PM

my tomatoes are still producing. The cherry tomatoes are really slowing down but the slicers are still producing but I can tell they are slowing down too. Harvest from last night.
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my asparagus just keeps putting on ferns, no actual sprouts/heads. not sure what is going on with them.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/25/20 11:02 PM

Those big tomatoes are what I call cat face tomatoes. They are great on sandwiches. They cover the whole slice of bread.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/26/20 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Rain. Just in time to soften up my garden and till it. Should be great foe an early of volunteer cilantro.

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I was looking for cilantro bur. took a peek and found little biddy cucumber plants. I had grown two differently verities. Won't know which one this one is until when or if it produces. I'm not too concerned. I can make more icebox pickles with either, or slice them, with some store bought vegetables for my marinated salad.

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Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/31/20 03:07 PM

Speaking of melons, the ones we have bought this year have been very good. same for cantaloupes.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/31/20 10:40 PM

This is my favorite thread. I putt the dripper back on my volunteer cucumbers as you can see, they are doing fine. Plan to transplant to a couple of hills when and if we get a cool down.

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Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/02/20 05:37 PM

the wife decided to drastically cut back on the tomato plants in hopes of them restarting producing for the fall. We are still getting a few of the slicers and a small hand full of cherry about once a week now. This has been by far our best year with the numbers they produced.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/18/20 01:58 PM

Little bitty baby volunteer cilantro plants. I only planted them once years ago. They are the perfect size to share with my neighbor gardeners. More seeds will germinate if the transplants are struggling. They are a gardeners best friend. They give off an aroma when they bloom that attracts bees. You can buy a package of seeds and plant them only once. They will be the gift to your neighbor that keeps on giving. The songbirds will drop the seeds in their gardens.

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Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/19/20 03:02 PM

yesterdays pepper harvest:
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All these jalapenos from a single knee-high plant! most 3-4" (I think I need to start a jalapeno farm!):)
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Got some dandies!
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Posted By: pertnear

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/19/20 03:05 PM

This one will be too hot to eat!!
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Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/19/20 03:05 PM

and the zucchini (these were just the big ones, that get shredded/freeze):
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and this monster (sitting in front of a watermelon, and almost as big)!!
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Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/19/20 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by pertnear
This one will be too hot to eat!!
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I think I'll put that one in with my pickled okra! nuts
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Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/20/20 06:37 PM

Usually have a big surge of jalapenos this time of year but I have a lot of blooms and not as many peppers as usual. Maybe too much nitrogen. Don't know.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/22/20 07:47 PM

I read somewhere that Indians used to plant squash together with corn (and a legume/beans) all in the same patch, to help cut down on the weeding. Thought I'd give it a try.
(And I guess the beans helped add nitrogen to the soil - but I didn't plant any beans this time, just compost & fertilizer.)
Working pretty good - I've never had squash plants 4' high before, and the corn I'm picking is coming out nice, and great squash (prev. pics).
This was a 2nd planting around july, irrigated.
I prolly packed plants in a little tight in the rows, but there's room to walk between the rows about 2' apart, and this spot gets sun from sunrise till sunset.
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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/22/20 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
and the zucchini (these were just the big ones, that get shredded/freeze):
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and this monster (sitting in front of a watermelon, and almost as big)!!
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WOW
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Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/22/20 08:18 PM

Gonna have to build a shade cloth set up for my strawberry patch next year. This past summer really did a number on them.Lost about half my plants to the heat.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/22/20 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
I read somewhere that Indians used to plant squash together with corn (and a legume/beans) all in the same patch, to help cut down on the weeding. Thought I'd give it a try.
(And I guess the beans helped add nitrogen to the soil - but I didn't plant any beans this time, just compost & fertilizer.)
Working pretty good - I've never had squash plants 4' high before, and the corn I'm picking is coming out nice, and great squash (prev. pics).
This was a 2nd planting around july, irrigated.
I prolly packed plants in a little tight in the rows, but there's room to walk between the rows about 2' apart, and this spot gets sun from sunrise till sunset.
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My daddy planted soya beans together with field corn. Worked fine.

Posted By: AMF

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/22/20 08:48 PM

That's called 'The three sisters'. You plant the corn and squash at the same time. As the squash vine grows, you train it around the base of the corn. When the corn gets about 3 feet high, you plant the beans. As the beans grow, you train it to climb the corn.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/22/20 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by Duke107
That's called 'The three sisters'. You plant the corn and squash at the same time. As the squash vine grows, you train it around the base of the corn. When the corn gets about 3 feet high, you plant the beans. As the beans grow, you train it to climb the corn.

That's cool - I'll have to try that next!
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/22/20 09:57 PM

interesting concept to plant multiple things together.

after hacking back our tomato plants mid Aug., they are covered in blooms again. should be a good fall crop in a few weeks.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/22/20 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by PMK
interesting concept to plant multiple things together.

after hacking back our tomato plants mid Aug., they are covered in blooms again. should be a good fall crop in a few weeks.


Its called second growth. Fingers crossed. You could get a crop depending on the fall weather.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/23/20 12:26 AM

Not a bad first day of Fall pepper harvest.
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Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/23/20 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by PMK
...
after hacking back our tomato plants mid Aug., they are covered in blooms again. should be a good fall crop in a few weeks.

up - same here. also, right before the first fall freeze/frost - we pick all the big green ones and individually wrap in newspaper
- they keep/ripen gradually,
whenever we want a ripe tomato, we go thru them and re-wrap the ones still green - with some lasting all the way till thanksgiving!
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/23/20 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Not a bad first day of Fall pepper harvest.

Whoa! Beautiful variety!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/23/20 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by Derek
Not a bad first day of Fall pepper harvest.

Whoa! Beautiful variety!



Would look great on a Christmas tree.



cheers
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/23/20 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by pertnear
This one will be too hot to eat!!
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It's now in the jar to the far right, in my latest batch of pickled okra!! stir flame grin
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Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/24/20 11:41 AM

That's good looking pickled okra. Mind sharing what your canning brine is?
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/24/20 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by greenen
That's good looking pickled okra. Mind sharing what your canning brine is?

There are 2:

first I made is really really good - mixing up homemade 'mixed pickling spice' recipe here - https://keviniscooking.com/wprm_print/50313/
plus adding 1/4 tsp fresh chopped garlic and 1/8 tsp red pepper flakes plus 1or2 fresh whole jalapeno sliced in half (WITH seeds for Real Hot!) to each pint jar,
and then using the 'quick dill pickles' instructions on box of Morton Canning/pickling salt:
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the second, which I've tried recently is much easier if you don't have all those spices,
and is 'ok' for HOT okra but definitely not as good as above, but tasted way better than 'storebought' pickled okra:
(also adding 1/4 tsp fresh chopped garlic and 1/8 tsp red pepper flakes plus 1or2 fresh whole jalapeno sliced in half (WITH seeds for Real Hot!) to each pint jar,)
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/24/20 03:12 PM

That's what I use when making icebox pickles. Love them.
Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/27/20 12:50 PM

Thanks for the recipe. I'm going to put some up.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/28/20 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Little bitty baby volunteer cilantro plants. I only planted them once years ago. They are the perfect size to share with my neighbor gardeners. More seeds will germinate if the transplants are struggling. They are a gardeners best friend. They give off an aroma when they bloom that attracts bees. You can buy a package of seeds and plant them only once. They will be the gift to your neighbor that keeps on giving. The songbirds will drop the seeds in their gardens.

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I thinned it yesterday by picking my first bunch. It simply taste better to me when it comes from my garden.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/28/20 04:05 PM

went out to the garden last Friday to find 5 huge cut worms chopping on our tomato plants, back to check again on Sat. to find 2 more ... grrrr
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/28/20 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by PMK
went out to the garden last Friday to find 5 huge cut worms chopping on our tomato plants, back to check again on Sat. to find 2 more ... grrrr


Probably Horn Worms. Use a product that the active ingredient is Spinosad. Spray your plants down with it. Works great and has a longer leaf residual than Bt.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/28/20 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by PMK
went out to the garden last Friday to find 5 huge cut worms chopping on our tomato plants, back to check again on Sat. to find 2 more ... grrrr


Probably Horn Worms. Use a product that the active ingredient is Spinosad. Spray your plants down with it. Works great and has a longer leaf residual than Bt.



I use Dipel. That's withe Tree Doctor used on my pecan trees. Lowe's carries it in much smaller bottles.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/28/20 07:37 PM

My Lime tree ( more of a bush than a tree, it's only about 4 feet tall) is going crazy this year, it's blooming again, and has about 10 small limes coming on, picked 2 today, totals about 30 for the year. Lime juice tastes good in Tea.
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/28/20 08:03 PM

Some of my neighbors have some great satsumas.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/29/20 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by PMK
went out to the garden last Friday to find 5 huge cut worms chopping on our tomato plants, back to check again on Sat. to find 2 more ... grrrr


Probably Horn Worms. Use a product that the active ingredient is Spinosad. Spray your plants down with it. Works great and has a longer leaf residual than Bt.



I use Dipel. That's withe Tree Doctor used on my pecan trees. Lowe's carries it in much smaller bottles.


Nothing wrong with using Dipel. Its Bt. Downside of Bt is you're only going to get about one weeks worth of effectiveness. It breaks down very quick under sunlight. As Spinosad breaks down much slower. Spinosad will give you 3+ weeks of effectiveness. You can't go wrong using either product. But I would apply Dipel or any other private label of Bt more often.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/01/20 02:02 PM

They spray Dipel on my pecan trees and ther are webworms free for a couple of months? My theory is that the worms do not produce moths to lay new eggs.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/10/20 03:31 PM

Made my day. Little baby pickles from volunteers in my garden. I plan to heat the Brian from a previous batch, slice the cucumber into the pickle jar and have another batch of icebox pickles.

This should give hope to the ones who are now showing concern about their fall gardens.

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Posted By: GNTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/14/20 04:16 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by PMK
went out to the garden last Friday to find 5 huge cut worms chopping on our tomato plants, back to check again on Sat. to find 2 more ... grrrr


Probably Horn Worms. Use a product that the active ingredient is Spinosad. Spray your plants down with it. Works great and has a longer leaf residual than Bt.


Captain Jack’s Dead Bug Juice is Spinosad based.

Or, a UV flashlight at night and they stick out like a sore thumb so you can pick them off.[Linked Image]
Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/14/20 11:50 AM

Peppers, okra and tomatoes putting out the last fall surge. [Linked Image]
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/14/20 01:26 PM

Now I know where you. Got your user name. cheers
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/16/20 08:04 PM

I cheated. I simply sliced my cucumbers, packed them into my old brine, and stuck them in the microwave.

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More on the way and even more blooms.

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Cilantro anyone?

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/17/20 08:34 PM

Found this.

"A study published in Medicine & Science in Sports & Exercise found that pickle juice works better than water at reducing muscle cramps. Another study showed that pickle juice could lower blood sugar spikes in healthy adults. In addition, pickle juice has a variety of antioxidants, including vitamin C and E.Sep 21, 2018
Forbes › lanabandoim › 2018/09/21"
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/24/20 09:03 PM

Had enough sliced cucumbers left to make a marinated salad.

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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/14/20 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by GNTX
Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by PMK
went out to the garden last Friday to find 5 huge cut worms chopping on our tomato plants, back to check again on Sat. to find 2 more ... grrrr


Probably Horn Worms. Use a product that the active ingredient is Spinosad. Spray your plants down with it. Works great and has a longer leaf residual than Bt.


Captain Jack’s Dead Bug Juice is Spinosad based.

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Very interesting
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/14/20 09:51 PM

Yep it works
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/04/20 01:52 AM

Payne. What's up bro? These are the jalapenos I've decided on to grow next year. My Goliath's kicked A this year. I should probably stick with them but always love trying new stuff. These are F1 so I'm expecting good results.

https://www.johnnyseeds.com/vegetables/peppers/jedi-f1-jalapeno-pepper-seed-3528.html?cgid=peppers
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/04/20 03:05 AM

I was plotting my revenge against Chickenman but I'm getting too old to fight the child army hell bent on avenging his death.

If you feel like bartering, I'm interested in the Jedi & Goliath seeds
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/05/20 01:21 AM

Unfortunately I don't have enough of either to barter with. I didn't load up on either since I'm trying them out. But they're cheap so you can always order some. I ordered the Goliath from Reimer. If you're into Serrano's I grew Hot Rod this year. I am very impressed with them. It might be the highest producing pepper I've ever grown.

http://www.reimerseeds.com/jalapeno-goliath-hot-peppers.aspx

https://www.johnnyseeds.com/vegetables/peppers/hot-peppers/hot-rod-f1-serrano-pepper-seed-3086.html
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/05/20 01:52 AM

How productive are they? Do you or yours like pecans?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/05/20 02:42 AM

Goliath was very productive. Mine out produced the Mammoths I've grown in the past by yield and size. Hoping the Jedi tops them as that's all I'm planting next year. This year was my first year growing the Hot Rod Serrano. It was insane. It produced hundreds of peppers minimum. I got tired of picking them and decided to chop it to the ground around July I think it was and see what happens. I'll see if I took pics. Well that was like feeding a Gremlin after midnight. Shoots everywhere off the main stem/branches. Fall crop was crazy. Peppers everywhere. The freezes the week killed the garden but the peepers are still. Good. I'll get some pics tomorrow prior to picking.

And we love Pecans.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/05/20 03:06 AM

My seed bank is 100% heirloom, zombie apocalypse and all that....

How about I send you a box and if your jap production is fruitful you send whatever excess you can spare next year?
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/11/20 03:28 PM

Tree identification.?
Alright, I know this is the gardening thread but hoping someone can chime in and I Didn’t want to start a new post for it.
This tree is in the front yard. Awesome shade tree. It turns yellow over about a 2 week time period, then all the leaves fall off over a day or two.. no joke. These pics were from yesterday and half the leaves are gone this morning so thinking I’ll be raking on Saturday.
The best guess I can come up with is a Kentucky Coffee Tree. However, mine appears to have been “shaped” at one time. It does produce a bean in the spring.. any thoughts? My parents are a couple others have shown interest in planting, so I’d really like to find out.
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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/11/20 04:31 PM

Looks like a thornless honey locust.
Posted By: TXHOGSLAYER

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/11/20 07:03 PM

Can someone please tell me what this is?


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Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/11/20 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Looks like a thornless honey locust.

By gawly, I think you’re right... many thanks!
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/12/20 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by TXHOGSLAYER
Can someone please tell me what this is?


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Tough one. Kinda looks like Purslane. But it typically has a more red stem, but not always. What color do the flowers bloom if they do? I'm also thinking Spurge. If you have more can you get an overall pic of it in the lawn or landscape.
Posted By: TXHOGSLAYER

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/12/20 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by TXHOGSLAYER
Can someone please tell me what this is?


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Tough one. Kinda looks like Purslane. But it typically has a more red stem, but not always. What color do the flowers bloom if they do? I'm also thinking Spurge. If you have more can you get an overall pic of it in the lawn or landscape.



Thanks Derek. I will take another picture tomorrow. Has a red tint to it when you see it in the lawn.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/12/20 02:24 AM

I'm assuming you being in Katy you have a St. Augustine lawn? If so get some Atrazine and make a small pump 1 gallon sprayer mix and spot spray. If you don't have a lot to treat make a 1/2 gallon mix and knock it out. If you have a lot add a spraying dye and do it over a couple days if no rain is expected. Follow the label on rates per 1000. You can use the max per year rate to spot spray, but not to blanket spray/treat if that makes sense. I'd get your pre-emergent game in order too.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/12/20 02:59 AM

my lime tree is still producing, if i can keep it from freezing, there are at least 30 limes growing on it currently.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/12/20 01:02 PM

My great neighbors are always ringing my doorbell bearing gifts. Plan to make lemonade today.

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Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/28/20 02:11 AM

Shes looking gooooood!

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/30/20 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by Chickenman
Shes looking gooooood!

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I plan to till after the next warm up.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/31/20 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Chickenman
Shes looking gooooood!


Yeah- that looks ready.
Any earthworms in there?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/31/20 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by Chickenman
Shes looking gooooood!


Yeah- that looks ready.
Any earthworms in there?


Plenty. Wish my spot for peas/beans looked that good.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/03/21 12:49 AM

In October, I put out seeds for couple rows of purple-top Turnips !

They came in good, and doing well even after a few freezes:
Half-row:
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Full/long row:
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So we been pick'n softball size ones like this - very tasty raw, microwaved like baked-potato, and even diced into soups (w/ greens too)
Wife & kiddos clip greens to add into salads, stir-fry, etc, etc.


I put in another two rows just before the rains this week -
So I guess if things go real bad, we'll have something besides jerkey to chew on!
Posted By: jetdad

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/03/21 02:55 PM

Oldoak2000, what are you shaping your rows with?
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/03/21 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by jetdad
Oldoak2000, what are you shaping your rows with?


a box-blade I temporarily 'modified'; grin
I took a couple pieces of wood 2x12, about 20" long, drilled 8 holes in ea, and 'wired' them to the front of the outer 'rippers' on the box-blade, lined up so the boards are behind the back tires of tractor.
I then tilt the box-blade with rippers down low and back of blade up as high as I can get it.
2 or 3 passes (to start) and it nicely mounds the raised bed in the middle and high on the edges so I can even water the raised bed with just a water hose on one end.

We've been throwing old straw, and leaves, in the 'troughs' between rows; keeps weeds down and gives nice 'path' to walk on - fertilizing as it decomposes.

The plants are loving it; raised beds without using any boards, so very easy to 'refreshen' for next season (1 pass thru) if needed.

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/03/21 11:15 PM

Do you hire out.? I have to use a garden hoe.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/06/21 03:06 AM

And so the addiction begins! I blame Derek! Jk. I thank Derek for adding much needed info to my newfound sickness.
Tonight, they soak in the accelerator he suggested. Tomorrow they go into ziplocks with coffee filters.
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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/06/21 05:49 AM

Fancy hand writin.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/06/21 01:45 PM

Best handwriting award ‘87 roflmao
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/06/21 04:06 PM

That's why I buy my plants already started. To me starting your own makes them almost like family. Makes me sad to lose them.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/06/21 04:54 PM

I bought plants last year. So far, they’ll be with me this year.
Posted By: throckmorton_hunter

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/06/21 06:09 PM

What are your thoughts on putting 6 inches of cow manure on my raised garden , then tilling it in in March prior to planting ?

Thanks
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/06/21 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by throckmorton_hunter
What are your thoughts on putting 6 inches of cow manure on my raised garden , then tilling it in in March prior to planting ?

Thanks


As long as you know where the manure came from and what the cows eat you'll be fine. If you're spraying you pasture down with something like Grazon and your cow are going behind that and eating what has been sprayed I wouldn't use it. There are a list of pasture herbicides that are not harmful to cattle but when they eat it, it does not no breakdown in their digestive tracts and it's in their manure. It's even been found in manure that has been composted. It's a slim chance but there is a chance. Now if it's a plain ole pasture with no blanket spraying you're fine. Till it all in. When it starts to warm up 70's+ I would mix a few table spoons of blackstrap molasses per gallon of water and water everything down with it. It will feed the microbes in the soil and help the process of breaking the manure down.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/06/21 08:08 PM

Derek, did cman give you the Christmas present i sent?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/06/21 08:09 PM

He didn't frown
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/06/21 08:13 PM

What a db move.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/06/21 08:20 PM

I sent it three weeks ago today

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/06/21 08:26 PM

I am so mad at him right now.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/06/21 08:59 PM


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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/06/21 10:14 PM

He should give you 5# of shelled pecans to make this right, it has basically ruined Christmas forever for me
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/07/21 05:45 AM

Lol. Was it the pick of the litter?
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 01:49 AM

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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 01:50 AM

Freakin Derek bang
Posted By: Bee'z

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 01:52 AM

Originally Posted by Derek

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rofl
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
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clap
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 02:22 AM

Had to bust out the Glencairn, provided by TexasLefty. Now it’s a pepper party
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Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 02:36 AM

Alright that's it, I'm getting back into it. Getting on line now and ordering seeds.
Posted By: drag13honda

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 02:45 AM

What do y'all use for your soils? I was gardening using 5 gallon buckets for a few years but didn't set anything up this past year. In the 5 gallon buckets, I was just using your typical store bought gardening soil (miracle gro or something similar). I was thinking about getting back to it this year but was thinking about setting up a galvanized trough/stock tank. Obviously that is going to take more soil than the 5 gallon buckets, so I was curious to see what y'all used.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 02:50 AM

if you save or gather some plastic bottles or milk jugs you can cut the amount of soil needed by half or better, 2-3 liter bottles work best

place the bottles in the bottom of the trough then fill with soil

I get soil and compost in bulk from a supplier then adjust accordingly. Much cheaper than bags.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 03:00 AM

Skinnerback, if I know I’ll see ya come February, you have gifts waiting buddy
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 03:01 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
if you save or gather some plastic bottles or milk jugs you can cut the amount of soil needed by half or better, 2-3 liter bottles work best

place the bottles in the bottom of the trough then fill with soil

I get soil and compost in bulk from a supplier then adjust accordingly. Much cheaper than bags.


Dam good tip sir. The root systems of the plants aren’t that big so a milk jug is perfect.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 03:08 AM

the liter bottles are better with the screw on caps, sometimes when filling with soil you'll knock the cap off a jug and it will deflate under the pressure but they work in a pinch if you're careful
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 03:37 AM

I got a little one. A gallon jug every week I think. I’ll start saving just in case. Otherwise, I was gonna do 1 single bed. I talked myself into individual pots lined up on a pad. Based on where they’re located, I can turn them towards the sun if needed. My plants last year only got afternoon sun and they’re almost 1 sided because of it. They were begging for more sun, where they were.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 03:59 PM

If you place the jugs with the cap facing up or down you'll have a better chance of not knocking the cap off if it was on it's side.

Don't know how many plants you're planting but if it's a few you can put them in a cart or wheelbarrow and move them around to the sun.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 04:25 PM

I’m starting 16 different species and based on the amount of seeds I have per species, some I only have 2-3 seeds. Others, like my pequins and the tepins, much more. I’ll probably start 50-75 plants total, keep as many as I can get away with and give the others to a few that I know want them.

I have roughly a 9’X9’ slab underneath the hot tub that’s going away. I figure I can load that sucker up with 2gal pots for all the superiors and the fence line bed is getting all the pequin and tepin bushes I can stuff in there.

This stuff revs me up like there’s no tomorrow! Poor Derek’s phone probably smokes at times when I have questions. roflmao
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 04:25 PM

Currently, we are germinating as planned.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
I’m starting 16 different species and based on the amount of seeds I have per species, some I only have 2-3 seeds. Others, like my pequins and the tepins, much more. I’ll probably start 50-75 plants total, keep as many as I can get away with and give the others to a few that I know want them.

I have roughly a 9’X9’ slab underneath the hot tub that’s going away. I figure I can load that sucker up with 2gal pots for all the superiors and the fence line bed is getting all the pequin and tepin bushes I can stuff in there.

This stuff revs me up like there’s no tomorrow! Poor Derek’s phone probably smokes at times when I have questions. roflmao


Don't text me until noon. You used up all my data and I have to go to Walmart and buy more. laugh
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 04:28 PM

Convert the hot tub to a raised bed garden

<<<<< problem solver
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 04:44 PM

I threw that idea out there to the wife. She gave me one heck of a dirty look. I’m still not against drilling holes and filling it in roflmao
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 04:48 PM

It’s perfect for a raised bed, tell her she’ll have the best conversation piece in the neighborhood

If you want to kill some time research keyhole gardening
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 04:58 PM

You’re starting 50-75 plants? Is this your first time?

Derek you might want to change your data plan to unlimited...
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 05:09 PM

roflmao
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 05:50 PM

That made me laugh. Lol. Mind you, I’m only attempting to start that many. Who knows how many I actually end up with. I do know this, I can’t eat all of what I hope to produce. I’ll be giving presents and preserving as many as I can.



Now, onto another subject. TOMATOES!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
That made me laugh. Lol. Mind you, I’m only attempting to start that many. Who knows how many I actually end up with. I do know this, I can’t eat all of what I hope to produce. I’ll be giving presents and preserving as many as I can.



Now, onto another subject. TOMATOES!


My neighbors started locking their doors, especially when I brought zucchini. I welcomed the squash bore.
Posted By: hook_n_line

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 06:06 PM

Got my pepper seeds today.

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 06:06 PM

That’s what I grow.

Is this your first time?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 06:14 PM

Hook and line eeks333 flame
Posted By: hook_n_line

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 07:16 PM

For few it's my first time for some the plants are still growing. I put them in syrup tubs.

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 08:35 PM

Looks good hnf

That question was for bullfrog

I taught East and remember the onslaught of questions from a beginner

I was going to teach KY a few years back but he thought having a kid was more important, I was yeah right pffft whatever
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
That’s what I grow.

Is this your first time?


To germinate from seed and do the grow light set up. . . Yes sir. I just walked by and snapped a pic of the ones I bought already started and nursed all summer. I really thought they’d drop all the leaves before now. 1Jap, 1Thai and 2 Pequins [Linked Image]
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 09:34 PM

Germinating them is half the fun I have a couple of grow stations that I tinker with all the time. I had to put in a new circuit breaker in since I kept losing power to the greenhouse.One of the better hobby's to have imo.


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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 10:21 PM

I found those chrome kitchen wire shelving units today on sale for $50 each at Northern Tool. I’ll prolly get a couple this weekend. I like that light set up you’re working with. Easily moved around I see. Hopefully I can adapt some casters to the racks I’m after
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 10:31 PM

Very nice.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 10:36 PM

Do you have a heat pad and fan? I use a timer some don't and just run them 24 hours straight.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
I found those chrome kitchen wire shelving units today on sale for $50 each at Northern Tool. I’ll prolly get a couple this weekend. I like that light set up you’re working with. Easily moved around I see. Hopefully I can adapt some casters to the racks I’m after



Don't forget Walmart...............they weren't silver but they were brown or black and they were 19.99. Everyday price.

Like 5 feet tall or so.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 10:50 PM

twyc if I remember correctly, you have a degree in horticulture. My question is, if I bring four boxes of wine can I hang out in Nic until the kaboom?
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 10:54 PM

You find your way down to san juan del sur on the beach with 4 boxes of chillable red.........I will find you.

PS...........as soon as we get back down there, which is reallllllllllllllllllly soon.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 11:02 PM

I'll be the guy with five RIR & and a sack of tomatoes seeds.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 11:09 PM

wear a patch over your left eye
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 11:18 PM

Are there a lot of white guys walking around with five chickens and a sack of seeds on San Juan del Sur Beach?
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 11:22 PM

Smartarse..............you can stay at the guardhouse now.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 11:25 PM

roflmao
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/21 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by takewhatyoucan64
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
I found those chrome kitchen wire shelving units today on sale for $50 each at Northern Tool. I’ll prolly get a couple this weekend. I like that light set up you’re working with. Easily moved around I see. Hopefully I can adapt some casters to the racks I’m after



Don't forget Walmart...............they weren't silver but they were brown or black and they were 19.99. Everyday price.

Like 5 feet tall or so.


Interesting. Thanks!

And Payne, I’m piecing this all together as I go. I have the lights, small seeding trays, a TON of the large grow trays I have to get from my Mom soon. I think I’m going to hollow out a corner of the garage and build a box from foam board and PVC pipe that I can easily move around. The heat source is still undetermined. I may just use a couple drop lights and 75W bulbs like it’s a pump house.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/09/21 12:17 AM

Alright boys, getting back in the game. I just ordered a grow light rack set-up, trays, and seeds. Keeping it small and cheap due to tight budget but Ima doer.

Starting 13 different types from seeds this time.

Costa Rican Chilis
White Devil's Tongue
Satan's Kiss
Big Black Mama
White Habanero
Red Savina Habanero
Tabasco
Black Jalapeno
Apocalypse Scorpion
Chocolate Habanero
Jalapenos
Carolina Reapers
and germinating some more native Chili Tepins.

Tomatoes next.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/09/21 12:19 AM

Reigning champ of the hero’s! I’m tellin ya!!!

Ok 1/2. Rams is your other half.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/09/21 12:31 AM

bullfrog the fun has just begun

skinner you had a garden before harvey right? not containers
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/09/21 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
bullfrog the fun has just begun

skinner you had a garden before harvey right? not containers



Yes Sir, had a couple of gardens before the storm. Had a vegetable garden, a tomato garden, flower garden, and pepper garden.

I used to grow a lot of peppers in containers though back in the day. That's what I'll be doing this year again.

I'm itching for another vegetable garden, especially since I finally got into canning.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/09/21 12:44 AM

When's the last time you checked the ph? I know you got major flooding.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/09/21 12:45 AM

How do I start a tomato section? I’m sure there’s a TON of info if I search but I’d sure like to start another thread strictly on them. I could eat tomatos morning noon and night. Then more for a snack. But finding the right ones, all I k kw is I like grape, cherry, Roma, and any other sweet tomato. There are SO dam many! I get lost in searching
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/09/21 12:50 AM

Just put it in here. Grow what you like to eat. Grow some slicers, some sauce ones and whatever else you might want. Garden space is limited don't waste it on stuff you won't use.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/09/21 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
When's the last time you checked the ph? I know you got major flooding.



I have never checked the PH, but I need to. Good reminder.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/09/21 12:52 AM

If it’s tomato, I assure you it’ll get used. If I had my choice, if till the whole dang back yard too. I HATE living in the burbs sometimes. So what’s the best big tomato variety that ain’t grainy, is sweet?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/09/21 01:04 AM

I grow celebrity tomatoes every year to make salsa, beefsteaks and brandywines for slicers, cherry and grapes for salads and snacks.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/09/21 01:09 AM

Why did you choose what you chose? What is it about celebrity that makes them good salsa maters? And the slicers, what about those made you land on them? I can’t say I e ever had a brandywine tomato.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/09/21 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Why did you choose what you chose? What is it about celebrity that makes them good salsa maters? And the slicers, what about those made you land on them? I can’t say I e ever had a brandywine tomato.


I've planted celebtries and better boys as a test. They produce about the same. I've used both in salsa by scalding them, skinning them, then cutting a third of the stem end off. I then squeeze them and scrape the seeds and pulp off. I put onions, jalapeños, and tomato paste in there, after adding vinegar.

I put the pint jars in a hot bath for about 15 minutes. They all seal. You can hear a little click.

Also, I get around chose-choose by writing, which one did you pick


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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/09/21 01:26 AM

uniformity and production from year to year on the celebrity's

the beefsteaks and brandywines grow the best in my area and i like their tastes

experiment with what you like to eat, then grow them. never stop experimenting though thats the fun part
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/09/21 02:15 AM

For tomatoes this year, I'm growing:

Great White
Chocolate Cherry
Large Red Cherry
Red Brandywine
Beefsteak

Maybe Celebrities too.
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/09/21 02:28 AM

Early Girl is a great producer for me of medium size maters. The plants get very large and unruly though so you better have plenty of space. Supposedly they have a "bush" variety of Early Girl but I haven't tried those yet. As far as cherry type maters Sweet 100 is hard to beat.It's also a heavy producer.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/09/21 02:46 AM

I only use mine in sandwiches, to give away, and salads anymore. I put dill and cucumbers from my garden in there.

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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/09/21 03:51 AM

Bill I don’t k ow why I always thought that was watermelon in that pic. Lol whoops. It seemed weird but I was never mad at it.

Everyone else, thank you! I’ll see what I can get my hands on this weekend. I know mine will grow like gangbusters, it’s the damn rotten azz tree rats I have to keep away from them. My 8yo is now invested in helping with all of this now, making a real labor of love. He’s been excited to start ever since Thanksgiving when I told him.

Give that boy a plant, he’ll check it 20 times a day just to see how it’s doing. I’m equally excited because we don’t have much to bond over yet. I’m just not a huge gamer or computer guy. If we start gardening together, it makes it ALL that much sweeter for me because it’ll be the first outdoor activity he’ll truly enjoy. Well, that makes this old man happy!

So from the bottom of my heart fellas, thank you all for the help. It’s meant and means more to me than y’all know. I hope to repay ya some day.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/09/21 04:47 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
I know mine will grow like gangbusters



That's the pecan talking, never go full pecan..
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/09/21 04:53 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
I know mine will grow like gangbusters



That's the pecan talking, never go full pecan..


Ohhhh NOW ya tell me! Too late now! We bustin gangs all over
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/09/21 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Why did you choose what you chose? What is it about celebrity that makes them good salsa maters? And the slicers, what about those made you land on them? I can’t say I e ever had a brandywine tomato.


I've planted celebtries and better boys as a test. They produce about the same. I've used both in salsa by scalding them, skinning them, then cutting a third of the stem end off. I then squeeze them and scrape the seeds and pulp off. I put onions, jalapeños, and tomato paste in there, after adding vinegar.

I put the pint jars in a hot bath for about 15 minutes. They all seal. You can hear a little click.

Also, I get around chose-choose by writing, which one did you pick


Edit: Found this. [Linked Image]




Papa used to talk about better boys. I don’t know 100% if that’s what he grew though.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/09/21 05:20 AM

Mykos, azos and tomato seeds on order
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/21 12:40 AM

Seeds delivered blush I'm pretty excited.

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/21 12:41 AM

Nice, I see you're companion planting
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/21 12:41 AM

You guys are making me hungry.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/21 12:45 AM

Does your feed store have the six packs out yet?
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/21 12:46 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
Nice, I see you're companion planting



up
Posted By: CharlieCTx

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/21 05:51 AM

I made a half-hearted attempt to grow some vege's this past year, waited too late I'm sure, but I'd like to give it another go in 2021 by starting earlier. The only thing that really produced was my Jalapeno plant. I tried to grow everything in 5 gallon buckets/planter with plants I bought at the local Calloways. The morning sun starting in June/July seemed to be really tough and they didn't get direct sun until 9'ish or so given the sun has to get over a 2-story garage and then blocked by trees after say 2pm. Did I have poor quality plants or is that common when the heat starts? I got no cucumbers as it seemed it took forever for them to fertilize and actually create a growable cuc. Vines were 8ft long at least. They would get to 2" or so and die off. Tomato's would flower but barely ever make a tomato. I did manage to see (2) tomato's and hoped to pick them, but the the day before I was going to, yard guys came and they mysteriously vanished.

This year, I am going to make a bed of some kind vs buckets.

- I was going to ask about starting with plants vs seeds but given some recent comments, looks like you guys are good on seed starting. When do you start them and what do you use for a potting soil? I assume you use those compostable pots to keep them mobile until last frost? I'd like to do some tomato (beefsteak, roma and a recommendation), Cucumbers (recommendation please), Jalapeno and a Bell Pepper at least.

- Do I need to have pairs for fertilization? My Jalapeno was a single, but did fine. Cuc was as mentioned and I had (2) tomato plants with very limited results..

Thanks
Charlie
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/21 12:02 PM

It has been my experience that tomatoes are the easiest to grow and cucumbers are the toughest. Stick around on this forum for advise from experts. I know you can do it.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/21 03:33 PM

Start the seeds 6-8 weeks before you want to plant them, check your average last frost date for your area.

Use a soilless seed starter for germination. You can find it anywhere they sell seeds usually or order it online.

Summer heat kills off a lot of plants, you can use shade or cover to prolong your growing.

I reused what pots I have, you can also use solo cups

You need bees and butterflies to pollinate your plants, Never use sevin on your plants

Cucumbers are easy they just need a lot of water
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/21 07:32 PM

What Payne said. Also, Charlie what fertilizer are you using? The one thing about potted veg plants that I grow is they need more fertilizer more often and more water than my raised bed plants. The reason is every time you water nutrients are leaking out of the bucket and they roots have nowhere to go out and search for what they need. And the buckets dry out faster needing more water. I fertilize my raised bed plants every two weeks or so. I fertilize my potted plants every week. Lets just say the fertilizer label says to add 1 tablespoon of fert to a gallon of water and water thoroughly every 2 weeks. Divide that by 4. So you would apply 1/4 table spoon every week. Over all both plants are getting the same monthly required nutrition but you are "spoon feeding" the potted plants as their nutrition is getting washed out with additional waterings.

And the reason I ask what fertilizer do you use is I wanted to see what the N/P/K value is. I've seen people using a singular fertilizer like Alaska fish and they get very nice beautiful growth but they have don't get a lot of fruit set yield. We'll Alaska is a 5-1-1 fert. Meaning it's 5 parts nitrogen to one part each of Phosphorus and Potassium. Great starter fert as you want to push growth, but once it starts putting on flowers you would want to make some adjustments so it will use it's energy to set fruit.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/21 07:35 PM

Great info Derek.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/21 08:11 PM

Derek likes to squirt the fert
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/21 08:23 PM

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Posted By: CharlieCTx

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/21 09:34 PM

Anyone that can make a snow angel like that in shorts, in TX, must know what they're doing. :-)

I really don't remember what fertilizer I used, it was something I picked up at Callaway when I bought the plants on a whim. I am going to make a raised bed this time instead of the buckets using some of Burpee's 12" brackets. Thanks for the fert. advice, I'll use that 5-1-1 to get things started. I'll be back when I transfer everything to the bed for advice.

I'm planning to start with these:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SNLPJHM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 for my seed germination.

The frost chart for Denton county calls for last frost mid-March, so I'm going to go ahead and start rounding things up now to get started.

What are my chances of actually growing a stalk or two of corn in a 5 gallon bucket?

So no Sevin dust... I thought that was the answer for any/all bugs? I did notice last year I never saw a single bee around the plants. Given my dad was a hobbyist beekeeper and I was the forced labor, I actually thought about buying one of those hobby hives to put out, but here in the city I figure it would cause me grief somewhere.

Thank you gents!
Charlie
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/21 09:47 PM

You can get the same brackets at HD or Lowes for cheaper.

That seed starter will work okay, you can diy for cheaper and better

You'll need at least two stalks for them to produce, they bring in a lot of bugs

Sevin is great at killing all bugs, the problem with that is they kill the pollinators
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/21 10:47 PM

I didn't mean for you to runout and buy the 5-1-1 fish. I was giving a ratio example. Nothing wrong with that fert at all. Grab it and go with it you want. Personally and to keep it as simple as possible I would rather start out with a little more balanced fert like Jobes All Purpose 5-2-3. Then move to a more balanced fert like their Bursting Blooms 3-3-3. There are a millions different fertilizers. Millions of ratios to you can go with. Just keep a simple rule of thumb to start out with the first number being higher then move to where all 3 numbers are equal or the middle and last number are higher than the first once you get to a good bloom stage. But we can get into that deeper as you go along.

https://jobescompany.com/product/jobes-organics-water-soluble-purpose-fertilizer/
https://jobescompany.com/product/jobes-organics-water-soluble-bursting-blooms/

100% agree with Payne on Sevin. I really like Mason Bee houses. I've put up 3 cheap ones the last 2 years and native solitary bees have almost completely filled them up. They are awesome pollinators.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/21 10:58 PM

That’s an idea! I have a big tall bird house that needs replacing. How can I make sure the bees use it and not those dang gangster wasps?
Posted By: CharlieCTx

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/21 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
I didn't mean for you to runout and buy the 5-1-1 fish.


I'm only running all the way to Amazon. smile What about this?

https://www.amazon.com/Burpee-99974...1610406560&s=lawn-garden&sr=1-11

For Bees,
What about something like this at the head of the bed, mounted to a T-Post?

https://www.amazon.com/Mason-Bee-Ho...1610406637&s=lawn-garden&sr=1-17

Charlie
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/21 11:17 PM

GD..................yalls tomatoes cost 18 dollars a pound after figuring everything............maybe more

rofl

I got 6 nice romas today for 98 cent and 6 avocadoes for 2 bucks.


raising chickens is kinda the same thing. Ive been down yalls road. ITs fun but leave for a week and youre crop will die ................and probably your chickens too........ROFLMAO


I like protein so fishing is good and free...........and Jack in the Box 2 for a dollar.


That fertilizer is garbage.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/21 11:18 PM

Yes I know about the box wine Piggie Smalls.................so save it. smile
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/21 11:28 PM

I do mine right. They save me money. They never hurt my pocketbook.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/21 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by stealtherest64
GD..................yalls tomatoes cost 18 dollars a pound after figuring everything............maybe more

rofl

I got 6 nice romas today for 98 cent and 6 avocadoes for 2 bucks.


raising chickens is kinda the same thing. Ive been down yalls road. ITs fun but leave for a week and youre crop will die ................and probably your chickens too........ROFLMAO


I like protein so fishing is good and free...........and Jack in the Box 2 for a dollar.


That fertilizer is garbage.


Look here . . . . everything costs $ when you don’t have anything. Since being down this road, you see the difference in your own produce vs the absolute garbage you get on a $2 burger.

Respectfully, not really. Maybe a little
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/21 12:14 AM

Can’t believe I’m bowing up in a gardening thread. Dam dems got me on edge! roflmao
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/21 12:15 AM

don't bring politics in here
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/21 01:51 AM

Found my stash of fertilizer from last year. I’ll keep the bone/blood meal but this I’ll cut someone a smokin’ deal on the best smell in the world

[Linked Image]
roflmao
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/21 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
I do mine right. They save me money. They never hurt my pocketbook.


I left something un-said. Gardening is also great for my health. Not because of the vegetables but because it gets me from behind to keyboard and onto the handle of a garden hoe.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/21 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by CharlieCTx
Originally Posted by Derek
I didn't mean for you to runout and buy the 5-1-1 fish.


I'm only running all the way to Amazon. smile What about this?

https://www.amazon.com/Burpee-99974...1610406560&s=lawn-garden&sr=1-11

For Bees,
What about something like this at the head of the bed, mounted to a T-Post?

https://www.amazon.com/Mason-Bee-Ho...1610406637&s=lawn-garden&sr=1-17

Charlie


That will work as a good starter fert. I like the ingredient list.
http://nv.certifyag.com/FertPublic/Products.aspx?CompNum=F1332

That is the bee house I'm talking about. There are bigger ones on amazon for cheaper than you linked.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/21 02:51 PM

I googled mason bees. I had no idea that’s what they were called. I always just called them honey bees. And did you know you can buy them? I guess they’re in larvae state and they just end up hatching and flying out. Not a bad idea to get 50 and set them up in or next to a little bee house.

https://masonbeesforsale.com/collections/bees
Posted By: CharlieCTx

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/21 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by Derek

That is the bee house I'm talking about. There are bigger ones on amazon for cheaper than you linked.


I'm definitely a bigger hammer guy, but I'm hoping to only attract a few. I really would like to do a small hive, but a hive + a queen + bees to start is pretty spendy. In the early '90's I remember a queen was about $15, now they're almost $50 it looks like.

I hope the one I posted doesn't become a wasp house instead. frown

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
I googled mason bees. I had no idea that’s what they were called. I always just called them honey bees. And did you know you can buy them? I guess they’re in larvae state and they just end up hatching and flying out. Not a bad idea to get 50 and set them up in or next to a little bee house. Mason Bees


Your link no worky. You don't get larvae, you get a box of buzzing bees. To keep the bees where you put them, you have to add a queen as well or they get bored, directionless and go look for another hive. Kind of like men with no wife/girlfriend to tell them what to do. Mason's are just a variety of honeybee, there are quite a few.

Charlie
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/21 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by bill oxner
I do mine right. They save me money. They never hurt my pocketbook.


I left something un-said. Gardening is also great for my health. Not because of the vegetables but because it gets me from behind to keyboard and onto the handle of a garden hoe.


Agreed. It’ll be bonding time for me and the boys too. Gonna put their lil hineys to work!
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/21 03:05 PM

Fixed it
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/21 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
I googled mason bees. I had no idea that’s what they were called. I always just called them honey bees. And did you know you can buy them? I guess they’re in larvae state and they just end up hatching and flying out. Not a bad idea to get 50 and set them up in or next to a little bee house.

https://masonbeesforsale.com/collections/bees


I've ordered them before from them. It's cool to watch them hatch out. It was a waste of $20 but the kids liked it. There are gillions of different types of solitary bees. They will naturally find the houses and setup shop. It's cool to see all the different kinds that take up residency in them.

If you really want something cool for your kids. Order some Praying Mantis eggs come spring.
https://www.amazon.com/Praying-Mant...antis+eggs&qid=1610465117&sr=8-2
Posted By: CharlieCTx

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/21 04:11 PM

I've never seen bees as your showing as larvae, this is all I've ever known.

[Linked Image]

Without a queen, I wonder what keeps them from leaving?

Charlie
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/21 04:47 PM

There is a queen in a small box in the middle of that package. To the bees in that package that is a new queen to them. By the time that package gets to the end user the bees will accept her as the new queen and will not leave her.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/21 05:12 PM

How are queens ever born? What makes them different?
Posted By: CharlieCTx

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/21 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
There is a queen in a small box in the middle of that package. To the bees in that package that is a new queen to them. By the time that package gets to the end user the bees will accept her as the new queen and will not leave her.


Sorry, I meant with the Mason Bee larvae, is there a queen in there?

Bullfrog

https://www.wired.com/2015/09/royal-jelly-isnt-makes-queen-bee-queen-bee/

Charlie
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/21 05:56 PM

There is not. They do not live in a colony like honey bees. Each bamboo tube that they use will be their own house that they will lay some eggs in to over winter. Once the eggs hatch in spring they are on their own. Pound for pound mason and other solitary bees are better pollinators than honey bees. And mason bees don't travel very far. Only a few hundred feet to forage. So if you can get them to move into your houses they will hammer down on your garden and flower bed flowers. They are very docile too, they won't bother you one bit.
Posted By: unclebubba

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/21 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
How are queens ever born? What makes them different?

The LGBTQ community will tell you that they are just different at birth. I believe that it usually is from some sort of traumatic event or issue with early childhood.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/21 06:44 PM

Very interesting Charlie! Thanks
Posted By: CharlieCTx

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/21 07:36 PM

Thanks Derek, I just assumed the Mason bees were another breed of honeybee and clearly they aren't.

Bullfrog,

It has been 30 years since I've fooled with them, but honeybee behavior is actually quite interesting to lightly read about. Workers, Drones, Nurses, Queens, etc. They toss the old/slow workers out of the hive, so no f'in around. smile We had hives in some locations you could work on without your hood/gloves. Other locations were meaner than a wet cat.

Charlie
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/21 09:47 PM

Yeah I’ll just have to make sure I have plenty of flowers up and running. I ain’t doing a hive, having a 2yo and being supposedly allergic to them. It’s been 25+ years since I had an allergic reaction to a sting, and I’ve been stung a bunch of times, but I always go in and take some Benedryl.
Posted By: CharlieCTx

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/21 10:31 PM

I had been stung 100's times with no reaction whatsoever. Late Spring-time we roll up to some hives to do some work and I watched this bee come right at me and sting me by the temple. No big deal... 10 min later I'm not in anaphylactic shock, but I'm having a significant reaction. That summer I had to take bee venom shots to rebuild my tolerance. Fall harvest time came, I carried an epipen, got stung again, but back to no big deal.

Do some reading on these Mason Bees. They are VERY different than honeybees. Keep 'em in the fridge until your ready to deploy, etc.

"There are about 140 species of mason bees in North America. All are solitary bees. The males do not have a stinger, and the females will only sting if trapped or squeezed. This makes them an ideal neighbor for the home garden, since they pose little to no threat of stinging."

Mason Bee link

Charlie
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/21 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Yeah I’ll just have to make sure I have plenty of flowers up and running. I ain’t doing a hive, having a 2yo and being supposedly allergic to them. It’s been 25+ years since I had an allergic reaction to a sting, and I’ve been stung a bunch of times, but I always go in and take some Benedryl.



There is no magic bullet. You just have to find what works for you.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/13/21 03:29 AM

A hundred and FORTY! Wow who would have thunk it!
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/13/21 04:33 PM

We have signs of life!
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/13/21 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
We have signs of life!
[Linked Image]



Miracles still happen. cheers
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/13/21 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
We have signs of life!
[Linked Image]


[Linked Image]
Posted By: jetdad

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/13/21 06:51 PM

When is the gender reveal party?
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/13/21 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by jetdad
When is the gender reveal party?

I think he should wait for them to grow some and let them decide.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/13/21 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Originally Posted by jetdad
When is the gender reveal party?

I think he should wait for them to grow some and let them decide.



Good one
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/13/21 11:31 PM

Go time
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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/14/21 01:22 AM

Now we’re just showin’ off! roflmao

Jk man! That’s freakin awesome. FEEEEEED little ones!!!!
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/14/21 01:26 AM

I'm about to undertake a 25x20 in ground pumpkin, watermelon and cantaloupe garden and a 50x30 space with raised beds.

All of it will be in drip irrigation.

First garden

I'll try and post pictures as I go.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/14/21 01:41 AM

Originally Posted by BradyBuck
I'm about to undertake a 25x20 in ground pumpkin, watermelon and cantaloupe garden and a 50x30 space with raised beds.

All of it will be in drip irrigation.

First garden

I'll try and post pictures as I go.


You can plant all of those seeds a little later in the spring.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/14/21 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by BradyBuck
I'm about to undertake a 25x20 in ground pumpkin, watermelon and cantaloupe garden and a 50x30 space with raised beds.

All of it will be in drip irrigation.

First garden

I'll try and post pictures as I go.


This is a situation where I would locate a beekeeper or beekeeper club. Unlike tomatoes, peppers and a few others we have been talking about lately which are wind pollinated. Your crops have to be bee or self pollinated male to female. 20x25 and 30x50 isn't that large but large enough self pollinating would be a PITA. I don't remember the exact numbers, but pumpkins need like 13 bee visits per flower for a full pollination load. That's why bees are brought in. Pure numbers to get per flower visit. Find a beekeeper that will put a hive out 100-200 yards out and you'll bee good. You'll do great this year. Looking forward to pics as you go along.
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/14/21 03:47 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by BradyBuck
I'm about to undertake a 25x20 in ground pumpkin, watermelon and cantaloupe garden and a 50x30 space with raised beds.

All of it will be in drip irrigation.

First garden

I'll try and post pictures as I go.


This is a situation where I would locate a beekeeper or beekeeper club. Unlike tomatoes, peppers and a few others we have been talking about lately which are wind pollinated. Your crops have to be bee or self pollinated male to female. 20x25 and 30x50 isn't that large but large enough self pollinating would be a PITA. I don't remember the exact numbers, but pumpkins need like 13 bee visits per flower for a full pollination load. That's why bees are brought in. Pure numbers to get per flower visit. Find a beekeeper that will put a hive out 100-200 yards out and you'll bee good. You'll do great this year. Looking forward to pics as you go along.


Thanks, I didn't know that but I just told my wife and she knew. This is kind of her project I'm just the labor..


Luckily there are 4 hives kept on the property behind me and I am planning to get a hive myself in 2022.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/14/21 01:10 PM

How close is the grow light suppose to be from the seeds/plants? I’m about to set mine up.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/14/21 03:10 PM

Going to depend on your type of light. If it's a traditional grow light the mfg typically will include recommendations. But like my lights they are not marketed as grow lights. My bulbs are only 20w each. I keep mine 4-6" above the plants. Check your wattage. More wattage the higher above the plant you would place them. If you're running something like a full spectrum 600w grow light system you would want to be 20" or so from the plants.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/14/21 08:31 PM

Thanks. Mine are 20 w and marketed as grow lights.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/14/21 09:02 PM

For seedlings you could go to 8". Once they get 3-4 sets of leaves you can go down to 4-6". The past 2 years I pretty much stayed at the 4-5" range and had good results.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/14/21 09:34 PM

Thanks again!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/14/21 11:46 PM

What lights do you have? If you go full spectrum now they'll last you the rest of your life more than likely.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/14/21 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
What lights do you have? If you go full spectrum now they'll last you the rest of your life more than likely.



This is what I have, bought two of them.

Grow Lights

They are 24w, not 20. My seeds just got here from Pepper Joe! Picking up my trays tomorrow.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/14/21 11:57 PM

wow that's a nice station
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 12:02 AM

2' long, it otta work. I wanted a bigger/fancier one, but trying to keep it cheap right now.

I've got it all planned out, how many of each in the trays. Starting 13 kinds of peppers, and 6 kinds of tomato's. 144 plants LOL.

I wish I wouldn't have given all of my containers away. bang
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 12:07 AM

solo cups work good for starters, I use the clear ones. I have a wood tool where you can make cups with newspaper for starting seed that you can plant directly in the garden. If your looking for containers hit up the nurserys in your area they usually have surplus.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 12:08 AM

Cool!

I'll do that. up
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 12:11 AM

What exactly are you looking for? I have a ton gardening stuff I've accumulated/inherited over the years.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 12:12 AM

and hit the feed stores for tubs
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
What exactly are you looking for? I have a ton gardening stuff I've accumulated/inherited over the years.



I'll be growing the peppers in med/large containers and 5 gallon buckets. I grew some big productive pepper plants before in containers, just had to fertilize them regularly (I used Miracle Grow in the soil and Epson's Salt in water to spray the foliage, alternating).

I never had any luck growing tomatoes in buckets, so this year if I don't put them in the ground they're gonna be in tubs or I'll build a few raised beds. Just can't spend a lot of money on all that right now.

I've also been watching videos on growing onions & garlic in large containers. May give that a shot too.

Raised beds would be the best here, screened in too. I had a vegetable garden & tomato garden in the ground, and the critters around here freakin' killed me. What the deer didn't eat, the birds, squirrels & coons did, and then the pocket gophers found my tomato plants and ate all of the roots off. Oh yeh, and then there were the tomato worms. mad
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 12:30 AM

When I grew gardens here before, it was really tuff finding spots where there was enough sun for a garden. My whole property was solid Live Oaks with Lodge Pole Pines mixed in, too much shade. I hated to do it but I finally had to cut down some trees for more sunlight. Well, after the hurricane sunlight's not a problem anymore! LOL. Have plenty now and chingos of fire wood.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 12:34 AM

You can grow anywhere if you put your mind to it, I grew a cherry tomato plant in one of those large miracle grow potting soil bags one year just to experiment.

zombie apocalypse test run
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 12:37 AM

put a bunch of marigolds in your beds/garden they'll help with the pests
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 12:38 AM

up
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 12:40 AM

do you like asparagus?
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 12:46 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
do you like asparagus?



Yes Sir, love it!

I've been told that it's too hot down here to grow it though. Heard the roots need to freeze/go dormant during the Winter. Don't know if there's any truth to that or not...
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 12:51 AM

they take 3-4 years to get established and they improve tomatoes ( I always put a basil seed next to the root for taste) so if you make a bed of them near where you grow tomatoes you have a companion set for year to come. Asparagus is really productive if you maintain them.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 01:00 AM

Interesting, I'll have to read up on that. Never heard of asparagus or basil improving tomatoes. I do love me some fresh basil.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 01:07 AM

I could go on and on about companion planting. Using flowers for pest control and enrichment but battle bots is on....

When researching just type whatever your looking up and look for their companions and nemesis.

It requires very little effort to improve your garden and is better for your plants.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
I could go on and on about companion planting. Using flowers for pest control and enrichment but battle bots is on....

When researching just type whatever your looking up and look for their companions and nemesis.

It requires very little effort to improve your garden and is better for your plants.



Gotcha. I went to a companion planting class one weekend years back, and that's what I did in my vegetable & tomato gardens. Companion or (3 Sisters) gardening, the way the Indians used to do it and all by hand. up Corn with snap beans growing up the stalk & squash for cover. All of the Marigolds and others for natural bug defense. Beneficial bugs etc....I need to freshen up on it. The deer is what killed my vegetable garden. I used a ton of coyote piss granules and all sorts of things but did no good. Deer found my garden right when everything was producing and looking real good. In one night, they ate everything. Leaves and all. All that work for nothing LOL.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 01:26 AM

Need to hot wire your garden, they killed me last year. I'm thinking hot wire on 6' t post this year.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 01:27 AM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by Payne
What lights do you have? If you go full spectrum now they'll last you the rest of your life more than likely.



This is what I have, bought two of them.

Grow Lights

They are 24w, not 20. My seeds just got here from Pepper Joe! Picking up my trays tomorrow.


That's a nice light stand! That a T5 6400k fluorescent blub. You're golden at the 4" range. The ends will put off a little heat but no biggie. If you'll run a fan on them to disperse the end heat and help harden off the stems you're good to go. My fan is like 6" diameter and a few feet away on low just blowing a little wind on them. Helps stiffen their stems to get ready for the strong southern spring winds.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 01:34 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
Need to hot wire your garden, they killed me last year. I'm thinking hot wire on 6' t post this year.



10-4, may have to do just that! I have a pile of brand new hot wire stuff in my garage that I was about to use when I had my pig dogs. NIB charger, wire, isolators, ground rods etc....Need to break it out. Just need T-posts.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by Payne
What lights do you have? If you go full spectrum now they'll last you the rest of your life more than likely.



This is what I have, bought two of them.

Grow Lights

They are 24w, not 20. My seeds just got here from Pepper Joe! Picking up my trays tomorrow.


That's a nice light stand! That a T5 6400k fluorescent blub. You're golden at the 4" range. The ends will put off a little heat but no biggie. If you'll run a fan on them to disperse the end heat and help harden off the stems you're good to go. My fan is like 6" diameter and a few feet away on low just blowing a little wind on them. Helps stiffen their stems to get ready for the strong southern spring winds.



Thanks for that advice! Will do that.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 01:44 AM

I wonder if the deer will jump the hot wire fence, or if they'll get popped and stay away from it.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
I never had any luck growing tomatoes in buckets, so this year if I don't put them in the ground they're gonna be in tubs or I'll build a few raised beds. Just can't spend a lot of money on all that right now.


Check your local HEB when they start stocking plants. Tycoon Tomatoes were brought back last year. They had been MIA for the last few years. A lot of people were raising hell @ A&M for them discontinuing them. I didn't know they were coming back and had everything planted when I saw them at HEB. I had a pot available and planted one. It did really well and I'm not a tomato pot guy either, so it's worth a try again. I'll be saving a spot or two in my raised beds for them this year if they are back again. It's my personnel favorite.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 01:49 AM

They need a clear spot to land so if you have plants there they wont jump, in theory

I never had a problem before last year but I didn't put up all my scarecrows and owls either.

I looked out there one night and there was 20+ just shredding away

Derek is proof not all super heros wear capes
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 01:51 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by skinnerback
I never had any luck growing tomatoes in buckets, so this year if I don't put them in the ground they're gonna be in tubs or I'll build a few raised beds. Just can't spend a lot of money on all that right now.


Check your local HEB when they start stocking plants. Tycoon Tomatoes were brought back last year. They had been MIA for the last few years. A lot of people were raising hell @ A&M for them discontinuing them. I didn't know they were coming back and had everything planted when I saw them at HEB. I had a pot available and planted one. It did really well and I'm not a tomato pot guy either, so it's worth a try again. I'll be saving a spot or two in my raised beds for them this year if they are back again. It's my personnel favorite.



I'll keep an eye out for them, thanks again.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
They need a clear spot to land so if you have plants there they wont jump, in theory

I never had a problem before last year but I didn't put up all my scarecrows and owls either.

I looked out there one night and there was 20+ just shredding away

Derek is proof not all super heros wear capes


Wish I had a Chickenman custom made scarecrow/lady/man/thing. So legit. Now I have to get a squirt the fert cape made.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 01:59 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
They need a clear spot to land so if you have plants there they wont jump, in theory

I never had a problem before last year but I didn't put up all my scarecrows and owls either.

I looked out there one night and there was 20+ just shredding away

Derek is proof not all super heros wear capes



LOL. Man I had a scarecrow, two owls, strung up a bunch of those milar streamers and spinning reflective chingaderas, put out I don't know how many of those $25 per bottle of coyote piss granules around the perimeter. Didn't stop the deer. Had corn, beans, 3 different squashes, okra, watermelons, and cantaloupe. All were growing good and putting out and gone in one night SMH.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 01:59 AM

He sent me three heads, they work well

post a link of your raised beds, I was talking about them today and a buddy is interested in buying some.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 02:01 AM

I had a radio out there on talk radio it worked for awhile then they just walked on in

I let my dogs run out there they just change their raid times
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 02:02 AM

propane cannon is next....


Y'all should ask cman to post a pic of his hens grow pod thingamajig, it's pretty cool. would work well in tight spaces
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 02:05 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
propane cannon is next....


Y'all should ask cman to post a pic of his hens grow pod thingamajig, it's pretty cool. would work well in tight spaces



LOL. Or a suppressed 300 blk with night vision, I've got one. peep
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 02:06 AM

Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 02:08 AM

aaaannnd building a chicken coop is on my list as well. My 6 yr old baby girl is in love with chickens and she WILL NOT stop asking me to please build her a chicken coup and buy her a chicken. We go to my Cousin's place, and her favorite thing to do is to just hold chickens LOL.

I haven't raised chickens in a LONG time, sure do love them fresh eggs though....need to start looking at cheap coop designs that work, until I can build something better & more fancy.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 02:11 AM

roflmao
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 02:18 AM

Saw a vid, I think it was Texas country reporter, the guy had built his coop with runs all around his garden and the chickens would roam around eating bugs & trash and fertilizing the garden during the day then act as an alarm through the night. It was quite cool, huge garden too.
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 02:18 AM

Good luck skinner! But shouldn’t be hard to build a small elevated coup and add a laying box for one or two hens.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 02:26 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
He sent me three heads, they work well

post a link of your raised beds, I was talking about them today and a buddy is interested in buying some.


I paid $140 on Amazon. But they are up to $170 on there now. Here are the same ones at HD for what I paid for a 3 pack. I've been really pleased with them. They are stackable with connectors included. Wish they sold panels to expand length wise but don't think they do.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Lifetim...awsIEAQYAiABEgL4FvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 02:28 AM

thanks

you get 3 4x4 beds for that price?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 02:38 AM

Yes sir. I bought 3. I have 7 garden boxes and 1 double stack to put a couple of tortoises I bought to put in come warmer temps for a total of 8 uniform spots/boxes.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 02:38 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
Saw a vid, I think it was Texas country reporter, the guy had built his coop with runs all around his garden and the chickens would roam around eating bugs & trash and fertilizing the garden during the day then act as an alarm through the night. It was quite cool, huge garden too.



That's pretty cool.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 02:40 AM

wait what?!?!? tortoises??
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 02:41 AM

Originally Posted by rickym
Good luck skinner! But shouldn’t be hard to build a small elevated coup and add a laying box for one or two hens.



Yes Sir, I'll slap something together. Probly start with 6 or 8 hens, maybe more. We have a lot of predators here (hawks/owls/coons/dogs) so figure it'll be a regular occurrence to lose one to predation.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 02:46 AM

TSC will be selling chicks in a couple of months
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 02:46 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Payne
He sent me three heads, they work well

post a link of your raised beds, I was talking about them today and a buddy is interested in buying some.


I paid $140 on Amazon. But they are up to $170 on there now. Here are the same ones at HD for what I paid for a 3 pack. I've been really pleased with them. They are stackable with connectors included. Wish they sold panels to expand length wise but don't think they do.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Lifetim...awsIEAQYAiABEgL4FvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds



9" deep, you think tomato plants will do well in them?

I know that 9" is more than enough for a lot of things but.....
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
TSC will be selling chicks in a couple of months



up
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 02:48 AM

He said you can stack them, 18" would be good
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 02:51 AM

I would think you would be able to get a couple of 7 yard trucks of top soil dumped in your garden for three of three packs of those beds
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 02:55 AM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Payne
He sent me three heads, they work well

post a link of your raised beds, I was talking about them today and a buddy is interested in buying some.


I paid $140 on Amazon. But they are up to $170 on there now. Here are the same ones at HD for what I paid for a 3 pack. I've been really pleased with them. They are stackable with connectors included. Wish they sold panels to expand length wise but don't think they do.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Lifetim...awsIEAQYAiABEgL4FvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds



9" deep, you think tomato plants will do well in them?

I know that 9" is more than enough for a lot of things but.....


I had doubts too. But I tilled up the ground beneath them, added the boxes, compost, soil, etc.. And haven been impressed. The roots can travel deeper than the 9" if they want since their is no barrier between the box and native soil depth.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 02:55 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
He said you can stack them, 18" would be good



Yeh roger I read that, just curious how many inches deep tomato roots need.....
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Payne
He sent me three heads, they work well

post a link of your raised beds, I was talking about them today and a buddy is interested in buying some.


I paid $140 on Amazon. But they are up to $170 on there now. Here are the same ones at HD for what I paid for a 3 pack. I've been really pleased with them. They are stackable with connectors included. Wish they sold panels to expand length wise but don't think they do.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Lifetim...awsIEAQYAiABEgL4FvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds



9" deep, you think tomato plants will do well in them?

I know that 9" is more than enough for a lot of things but.....


I had doubts too. But I tilled up the ground beneath them, added the boxes, compost, soil, etc.. And haven been impressed. The roots can travel deeper than the 9" if they want since their is no barrier between the box and native soil depth.



Ah, I didn't realize the bottoms were open. That wouldn't work here because of the pocket gophers. They killed all of my tomato plants last time. Have both moles and pocket gophers all over here. Needs to be a solid bottom, or a hardware cloth etc bottom.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 03:03 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
wait what?!?!? tortoises??


Yeah. As my wife tells me daily I'm out of control. One of my girls wanted a tortoise and I'm just a automatic yes guy. SO I bought a couple Red Footed's a few months ago. A male and female. They turned 6 months old last week and now can have protein. Today was their first boiled egg. The female came running out of their hide as soon as I put it down. They hammered down on it today. They loved the egg whites but only ate 1/2 the yokes. They are really cool.

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 03:05 AM

roflmao oh hell I'm dying over here

you the man Derek
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 03:07 AM

Don't they live like 200 years?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 03:12 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
Don't they live like 200 years?


Forgot about that part. Great. Probably cost me more to adjust my Will to Will them to someone after I'm turning into fertilizer then I paid for them.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 03:13 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Payne
wait what?!?!? tortoises??


Yeah. As my wife tells me daily I'm out of control. One of my girls wanted a tortoise and I'm just a automatic yes guy. SO I bought a couple Red Footed's a few months ago. A male and female. They turned 6 months old last week and now can have protein. Today was their first boiled egg. The female came running out of their hide as soon as I put it down. They hammered down on it today. They loved the egg whites but only ate 1/2 the yokes. They are really cool.

[Linked Image]




That's pretty cool. Had a lady drive into my place one evening a couple of weeks ago looking for their pet tortoise. Don't remember exactly, but some kind of rare tortoise from Africa that gets really big. They raised it from a hatchling and had it for 16 years already. It escaped and is out there in the brush somewhere.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 03:20 AM

You should make a tortoise thread, I'd follow it until I died and they still had 180-185 years to go...
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 03:22 AM

roflmao
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 03:25 AM

oh it's not that long they only live 30-50 years
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 03:35 AM

Ok, all caught up. So which one came first, the tortoise or the chicken? confused2
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 04:08 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
oh it's not that long they only live 30-50 years


That and many of the other reasons I went Red. Pretty easy care, great eaters and great personality. Where I will put them holds decent moisture and Nutgrass <-- my mortal enemy. I didn't treat the area for them. I think they will like it.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 04:14 AM

I still think you should make a tortoise thread
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 04:31 AM

lol. I don't know enough about them to start a thread and talk intelligently. I have buds that have Sulcata's (probably what Skinnerback;s neighbor lost) and Boxes. I wanted Box turtles, and still do, but they are hard to find and pricey if you can. Thanks for the Fert Squirter roflmao
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 04:37 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
lol. I don't know enough about them to start a thread and talk intelligently. I have buds that have Sulcata's (probably what Skinnerback;s neighbor lost) and Boxes. I wanted Box turtles, and still do, but they are hard to find and pricey if you can. Thanks for the Fert Squirter roflmao



Been seeing some Texas Tortoises around before it got cold....free too. Was picking Chili Tepins with my kids and a nice one walked right in front of my boots.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by Derek
lol. I don't know enough about them to start a thread and talk intelligently. I have buds that have Sulcata's (probably what Skinnerback;s neighbor lost) and Boxes. I wanted Box turtles, and still do, but they are hard to find and pricey if you can. Thanks for the Fert Squirter roflmao



Been seeing some Texas Tortoises around before it got cold....free too. Was picking Chili Tepins with my kids and a nice one walked right in front of my boots.


That's Awesome! Back in the day we used to see lots of Orate Box Turtles. Not so much anymore.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 12:28 PM

Have them in my backyard pond.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 01:38 PM

Highly disappointed in your lack of enthusiasm for the tortoise thread. What are their names?
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 01:53 PM

I wanna get a couple for backyard security. roflmao
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 03:06 PM

They have names but I don't know what they are. I just call them big turtle and smaller turtle. I'll ask my kids tonight. We got halfway to school this morning when my youngest mentioned she forgot to feed them so I had to go back home and give them some salad. They were already out waiting on it.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 03:58 PM

name them neck and dove
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 06:55 PM

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 07:19 PM

Nice setup BB

You had me at keyhole garden
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 07:32 PM

Keyhole garden is new to me. I like that.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 09:18 PM

[Linked Image]

Had some friends follow me home..

I grew those picklebushes a few years back and liked them. Couldn't find them the next year then forgot about them. Barely caught my eye when I was picking up the companions.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 09:59 PM

Nice. I was just looking at all of Burpee seeds at china mart.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 10:00 PM

Think I’m gonna grow some sweet corn again.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 10:00 PM

Beats the snot out of beekeeping.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Beats the snot out of beekeeping.



I’m looking into that too.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Nice. I was just looking at all of Burpee seeds at china mart.


Go look at the same at TSC, I just can't buy seed from wm
Posted By: jetdad

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 10:18 PM

Willhite Seed in Poolville, TX is a good online source for quality seeds.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 10:23 PM

I buy my flower seeds from TSC, save seeds to stash in the seed bank if I can. lost everything a couple of years ago when the fridge I use to store them in flooded.
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
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Had some friends follow me home..

I grew those picklebushes a few years back and liked them. Couldn't find them the next year then forgot about them. Barely caught my eye when I was picking up the companions.

Tell me more about these Picklebush Cucumbrers. I have some National Pickling Cucumber seeds on the way. My wife is wanting to make some pickles this year. Actually she wanted to last year and asked me to plant cucumbers, but she didn't tell me what she wanted to do with them and I planted Burpless slicers instead of a pickle type.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 11:16 PM

I planted pickling as well as burpless cucumbers last year. I made icebox pickles with both. Found this.

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Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 11:29 PM

It begins.

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/21 11:34 PM

You will more than get your seeds back with those.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 12:14 AM

Old Rabbit, just a bush type that is easy to grow in a garden or container. It has a shallow root system and no need for a trellis. They taste good to me and you can put them up also. Standard 4" fruit, if you want to try some I'll send you some seeds I'm not going to plant all of them maybe 5 or so. PM an addy if interested.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 12:46 AM

Chocolate cherry tomatoes sound freakin amazing
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 12:47 AM

Now y’all got me wanting to plant pickles! My Mom already said she wants to do the German chunk pickles my grandfather used to do. Hmmmmm
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
It begins.

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Very nice selection. I like the white devils tongue pods. I grew white lighting bolt last year. Their pods were awesome looking but not very hot. Good luck this year!
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 01:10 AM

“Not very hot” says the man growing dam near the hottest peppers known to man
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 01:29 AM

lol. They were maybe Jalapeno hot. They produced a ton but I wasn't real impressed with them besides the way they looked. I won't grow them again. Satan's Tongue looks like a much better option from the quick reading up on them I did.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 01:30 AM

blah blah blah go ask the kids what the names are
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 01:41 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
blah blah blah go ask the kids what the names are


roflmao Forgot. Female is Maggy and the male is Tank.

So I asked how they came up with the names.

Daughter 1. Well she looks like a Maggy so that's what I named her. confused2
Daughter 2. He looks like a Tank dad. Duh. Now get out of my room.

Sweet little angels.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 01:48 AM

Father of the year conversation, have you contacted hallmark for a Christmas special?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 01:51 AM

I tried. impossible to get a Hallmark role right now. Lacey Chabert takes every role they have available. bang
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 01:58 AM

SO impatient Payne! roflmao
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 02:02 AM

Her career took off when Aunt Becky went to the pen.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 02:25 AM

Can’t keep up with you dern readin’ types
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 03:44 AM

Anybody grow a variety of fruit/nut trees?

We already have a peach and pecan on our property

Was thinking about adding a couple apple varieties, figs, cherries, almonds and pears
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 04:06 AM

Seeds planted and under the grow lights, in my bedroom.

They say if you talk to your plants, they listen and do better.

I’ll remind them everyday how hot they are, we’ll see.

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Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 04:22 AM

Should I raise the lights up a little so that the light is more evenly distributed? Set at 6" now.

I've never used grow lights before so learning, always just planted in the Spring outside.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 01:28 PM

I would raise them to get full coverage or you can rotate them every couple of days. The seedlings will tell you if they are getting enough light after they germinate. What will happen is if the ones on the outside are getting insufficient light they will start to grow towards the light then became leggy. You want them to grow straight up towards the light. I have my lights on a timer, they're on for 16 during the day and into the night then off for 8 to let them rest in the dark. I keep them on a heat mat with a thermostat so they are constantly 75°.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by BradyBuck
Anybody grow a variety of fruit/nut trees?

We already have a peach and pecan on our property

Was thinking about adding a couple apple varieties, figs, cherries, almonds and pears



I've tried apples a few times and couldn't get them to grow. Same with cherry. Figs are easy plant and step back they'll do well, I have turkey figs. Never tried almonds, have several pecan trees. I have lemon, lime, pears, plums, olive. apricot and grape vines.

Ask your extension agent or nursery what grows well in your area and go from there.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 03:05 PM

Skinnerback, I like to leave the tv on during the day. Plus, I read children’s books to them at night. They seem to like it.

Maybe leave a little Sinatra on for them later. My Way, over and over. roflmao
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 07:04 PM

Lol. Alright thanks guys.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 09:41 PM

I raised the lights up to 12” above the trays for better light dispursement. Question - while the seeds are germinating, should I leave the lights on all the time?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 09:56 PM

You don't even need light until they germinate, what they need is a constant temperature and moisture. I'd get a spray bottle so you don't drown them.

I set up my lights and forget about it, so when they do germinate they have the light as soon as they sprout.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 10:01 PM

Thanks. I’m using a spray bottle. I’ll put the lights on a timer now.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 10:02 PM

How much light did the seed packages say they needed full sun, partial sun etc?
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 10:21 PM

Nothing on the packages. I’ll have to look on line.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 10:25 PM

those lights look like they have reflectors on them, can you take a pic when the room is completely dark

I'm sitting here wondering if the trays are too big or the lights are too small. It looks like the last row on each side isn't getting light but maybe the pic is messing with my eyes
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 10:47 PM

They do have reflectors on them, and I’m using the 72 cell trays. What it looks like now @ 12” with the lights off.

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 10:52 PM

that looks good, you could even lower them some
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 10:53 PM

you hippy, going to sooth them with some soft solo drum beats?
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
you hippy, going to sooth them with some soft solo drum beats?



roflmao That's my little boy's drum set. Maybe some slow soft solo drum beats until they start to sprout, then a drum roll, then I'll play them Wipe Out followed by some old school Metallica, maybe a little Pantera. grin
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 11:41 PM

just get a fan, no need for head banging peppers..


I'd adjust the height of your lights in a dark room, ideally you want your lights as low as you can get them while covering the trays. Watch them and see if they slowly grow straight up towards the light. If they start to lean into the light they'll get leggy which isn't good. The stems will be thinner and weaker. They'll be top heavy and tend to break after awhile. You can bury them when transplanting but it's bad practice to let it happen.
Posted By: fmrmbmlm

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 11:42 PM

I'm no expert, but have read and heard on radio grow lights don't help to germinate. You need heat. and darkness, I can't confirm that.
Posted By: fmrmbmlm

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/21 11:43 PM

I'm no expert, but have read and heard on radio grow lights don't help to germinate. You need heat. moisture and darkness, I can't confirm that.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/17/21 03:04 AM

Throw in a little Rammstein while we’re revvin’ things up!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/17/21 12:23 PM

A warmup is in the forecast. May till up my garden this week.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/17/21 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
A warmup is in the forecast. May till up my garden this week.


Is that a call to the man or do you still got this?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/17/21 08:41 PM

Got the new grow lights put up and the peppers are in!

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Posted By: CharlieCTx

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/17/21 09:04 PM

Is there something unique about grow lights wavelength/lumens/temp/etc ? I have a workbench LED light I can put to work.

Charlie
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/17/21 10:54 PM

Short answer is yes. What bulb/s is in your work light?
Posted By: CharlieCTx

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/17/21 11:36 PM

I have no idea, it’s your average hanging, integrated-LED (not a separate bulb) 40 in. long, work light.

I think it’s this one...

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Metalux...4000K-CCT-Cool-White-4SHP4540R/305016240

Charlie

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/17/21 11:53 PM

It's not ideal but will work for seedlings. The cool white over time will stunt the growth of your plants. You want a kelvin rating of 5000 to 6500. You want at least 3000 lumens per square foot of space.


If you subscribe to buy once cry once philosophy


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HEYCRI...6&ascsubtag=amzn1.ideas.SBP1TAHSS6Y3
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/21 12:40 AM

Wife and uncle bought me the full spectrum lights. Good GAWD they make me feel dizzy when I plug them in!
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/21 12:44 AM

Germination rates so far. I had a couple 0’s so I transferred them to new coffee filters. Fingers are crossed. Otherwise, pretty good #’s on how many seeds are sprouting.

Dragon’s breath-12/15
Pequin-6/25
P Dreadie RedX- 5/5
Choc Hand Grenade-0/3
Beth Boyd Scotch Bonnet-1/3
Choc Hab-1/4
Scotch Bonnet Gigantic Red-4/4
Lemon Starburst-0/2 😔
MOA Scotch Bonnet-2/3
Joes Long Cayenne-1/4
HotRod Serrano-6/6. These are going flippin crazy!
MuMex Big Jim-3/5
Jedi Japs-3/4
Pasilla Bajio-0/17 😔
Mystery-8/20
Tepin1-19/25
Tepin2-0/30😔 I have 0 clue why so I transferred them
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/21 09:14 PM

It's time

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light timer and heat pad thermostat

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24 beef steaks, 6 california wonder bells, 6 black beauty egg plants, 6 celebritys

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Need to figure out if I'm going to germ some japs or buy some mucho nacho plants. I'll sow the squash, sunflowers, green beans and pickles when I transplant.

I looked at my lights, I've had them since 91, feeling shame from cman's & skinners setups I'm going to buy that T5 Ho Grow Light.

skinner I have an extra heat pad if you want to borrow it, I'll need it back for next year though.



3,660,000 views at the time of this post chicken
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/21 10:12 PM

Pure greatness.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/21 10:15 PM

oh yeah forgot about the pot maker I talked about earlier


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I still get a 500 page white pages phone book every other year, so I've been saving them for the ZA

The pots suck when they get wet but when transplanting to larger containers they come in handy.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/21 10:25 PM

Very nice Payne. Thanks for the offer, but I don't think I need the heat pad. They're in my bedroom and I keep the heater on when it gets chilly.


and there ain't nothing wrong with them lights LOL.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/21 10:32 PM

I can't let cman win, personal vendetta and all that
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/21 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Very nice Payne. Thanks for the offer, but I don't think I need the heat pad. They're in my bedroom and I keep the heater on when it gets chilly.


and there ain't nothing wrong with them lights LOL.


Wish my wife would let me keep my plants in the bedroom. It's probably best I keep them in the garage so she doesn't hear me talking to them. I bet she would think that was weird.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/21 10:35 PM

Put a disco ball and a pony keg in their and its a GD party
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/21 10:37 PM

Are you lost? The Bunker misses you...
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/21 10:39 PM

Ordered 1 Granny Smith, 1 honey Crisp, 1 Ayers Pear, 1 methley Plumb, 1 Celeste fig and 5 black berry bushes today.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/21 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by skinnerback
Very nice Payne. Thanks for the offer, but I don't think I need the heat pad. They're in my bedroom and I keep the heater on when it gets chilly.


and there ain't nothing wrong with them lights LOL.


Wish my wife would let me keep my plants in the bedroom. It's probably best I keep them in the garage so she doesn't hear me talking to them. I bet she would think that was weird.



Man I've got 99 problems, but a wife is no longer one of them. roflmao Now I get to put what I want, wherever I want and no arguing. grin
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/21 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Are you lost? The Bunker misses you...



roflmao
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/21 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by skinnerback
Very nice Payne. Thanks for the offer, but I don't think I need the heat pad. They're in my bedroom and I keep the heater on when it gets chilly.


and there ain't nothing wrong with them lights LOL.


Wish my wife would let me keep my plants in the bedroom. It's probably best I keep them in the garage so she doesn't hear me talking to them. I bet she would think that was weird.



Man I've got 99 problems, but a wife is no longer one of them. roflmao Now I get to put what I want, wherever I want and no arguing. grin


Now I'm double jealous. grin
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/21 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by BradyBuck
Ordered 1 Granny Smith, 1 honey Crisp, 1 Ayers Pear, 1 methley Plumb, 1 Celeste fig and 5 black berry bushes today.


From Womack?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/21 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by BradyBuck
Ordered 1 Granny Smith, 1 honey Crisp, 1 Ayers Pear, 1 methley Plumb, 1 Celeste fig and 5 black berry bushes today.



Nice, good job on the pollination needs. I would've gone with Santa Rosa but Methley is hardier.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/21 10:50 PM

Derek how's Maddy & Tank?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/21 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Derek how's Maddy & Tank?


Great! They got shredded carrots yesterday along with their salad and they were very happy. Did a tank change and they got to soak in a water tub while we cleaned everything. They love their water soak times.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/21 10:56 PM

roflmao we need a live stream web site for them
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/21 10:57 PM

Not a bad idea for when I move them outside for the spring/summer.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/21 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Are you lost? The Bunker misses you...



I feel like that blue slide or maybe even that old wood fence behind your signature..........I'm a rock. I'm an island.

I will always go where I'm not wanted to do things everyone hates...............Good day Piggie Smalls.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/21 11:11 PM

Did you and ky split a black box chardonnay for MLK?
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/21 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
roflmao we need a live stream web site for them


Can’t deny that I’d drop in for that every now and then roflmao
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/21 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Did you and ky split a black box chardonnay for MLK?



I think KY is too gangsta to want to hang with me.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/19/21 12:09 AM

That's just the flat bill
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/19/21 12:54 AM

Payne, you’re growin’ on me man. up
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/19/21 01:03 AM

Like a fungus? WTH does that mean?
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/19/21 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
Like a fungus? WTH does that mean?


Lol. I meant it as a positive.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/19/21 01:38 PM

I call it . . . . Frugal Jer-May.
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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/19/21 02:19 PM

Nice!
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/19/21 03:07 PM

Thank you for the proper motivation sir up
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/20/21 01:48 AM

Derek sent me some seeds. Added more peppers tonight. More excited!

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/20/21 03:12 AM

Derek is the man. cheers
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/20/21 04:38 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Derek is the man. cheers


You're the man. Love you Bill.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/20/21 04:54 AM

I got half my seeds planted last night, the rest tonight. 96 seed pods ready to sprout up. I’d say over half were already starting inside the coffee filter so it was more of a transplant procedure. Delicate lil boogers.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/20/21 04:57 AM

And yes, thanks again Derek . . . 1)for sharing your seeds and 2)being patient with my million questions. You’re alright man! I don’t care what Payne always says about ya

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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/20/21 01:48 PM

HOLY Shnikeys!!! Derek this stuff is awesome!!!!
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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/20/21 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
HOLY Shnikeys!!! Derek this stuff is awesome!!!!
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I told you no more than 1/2oz of Ammonium Sulfate.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/20/21 02:04 PM

Payne. Today is Maggie and Tank's first day to try softened cat food. They didn't seem impressed. I'll have to see if they ate it when I get home.

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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/20/21 02:20 PM

Well, to be honest it looks like chit! Weren’t they eating nice salads before? Now they got a big azz shiny bowl in their street roflmao
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/20/21 02:37 PM

They still get salad every day. They just turned 6 months old so I can start adding protein to their diet. They loved eggs. They really like when they get a treat every couple weeks. Tomato, strawberry, blueberry, grapes, etc.. They love cactus too. I pick it up fresh at La Michoacana.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/20/21 02:51 PM

La Michoacana . . . . . , MY MAN!!! up
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/20/21 02:51 PM

Got any bait shops around your place? I bet they’d eat the snot out of those
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/20/21 03:05 PM

You should try chewing the cat food then spitting it in their mouths
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/20/21 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
You should try chewing the cat food then spitting it in their mouths


Haha. Baby bird’n em!
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/21/21 12:56 AM

Large Red Cherry, Chocolate Cherry, and Brandywine tomatoes sprouting already. banana No peppers yet.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/21/21 02:24 AM

Man I found some choc cherry seeds at Calloways yesterday. I dang near bought a pack. Just the name alone sounds fantastic!
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/21/21 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Large Red Cherry, Chocolate Cherry, and Brandywine tomatoes sprouting already. banana No peppers yet.


Sweet! Nailing it.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/21/21 02:37 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
You should try chewing the cat food then spitting it in their mouths


Update. Tried to baby bird them. I feed the cat and dog Taste of the wild and that's what I gave them. They hated it! And Red's are not picky eaters. Guess I need to try a cheap meow mix next week. Boiled a egg tonight to give them tomorrow.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/21/21 02:52 AM

You a good Daddy up
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/21/21 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Payne
You should try chewing the cat food then spitting it in their mouths


Update. Tried to baby bird them. I feed the cat and dog Taste of the wild and that's what I gave them. They hated it! And Red's are not picky eaters. Guess I need to try a cheap meow mix next week. Boiled a egg tonight to give them tomorrow.



I have eaten my share of Meow Mix, it's pretty good. Started when I was just a baby crawling around getting into the cat's food. I ate Meow Mix, Sweet Feed, range cubes, & deer corn until I was 25. Ain't ashamed of it. Maybe that's why they used to call me corner post, I dunno.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/21/21 03:41 AM

roflmao damn that’s funny man!
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/21/21 06:55 PM

Thoughts on pressure treated wood for raised beds?

With sky rocketing lumber prices I have been contemplating using 1x6x6 inch pressure treated fence pickets for beds at $1.98 a piece it will literally save me hundreds of dollars.

The plan is to build them 3 pickets high and 6ft by 3ft.

However my wife is adamant that we use cedar and afraid of possible chemicals leaching into the soil.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/21/21 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by BradyBuck
Thoughts on pressure treated wood for raised beds?
With sky rocketing lumber prices I have been contemplating using 1x6x6 inch pressure treated fence pickets for beds at $1.98 a piece it will literally save me hundreds of dollars.
The plan is to build them 3 pickets high and 6ft by 3ft.
However my wife is adamant that we use cedar and afraid of possible chemicals leaching into the soil.


Cedar picket is only $1 more - https://www.lowes.com/pd/Severe-Wea...-Cedar-Dog-Ear-Wood-Fence-Picket/4323595
Personally I'd keep treated away from a food garden - railroad ties too.

'nother option; calculate how much you'll spend on boards, etc, and spend that same $ buying truckloads of composted material to 'build the level up' at least for 'raised rows, without sides. I did and it's works great!
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/21/21 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by BradyBuck
Thoughts on pressure treated wood for raised beds?
With sky rocketing lumber prices I have been contemplating using 1x6x6 inch pressure treated fence pickets for beds at $1.98 a piece it will literally save me hundreds of dollars.
The plan is to build them 3 pickets high and 6ft by 3ft.
However my wife is adamant that we use cedar and afraid of possible chemicals leaching into the soil.


Cedar picket is only $1 more - https://www.lowes.com/pd/Severe-Wea...-Cedar-Dog-Ear-Wood-Fence-Picket/4323595
Personally I'd keep treated away from a food garden - railroad ties too.

'nother option; calculate how much you'll spend on boards, etc, and spend that same $ buying truckloads of composted material to 'build the level up' at least for 'raised rows, without sides. I did and it's works great!


Thanks.

Yes, it's right at $2 more a picket. 1.98 vs 3.88.

At 8 pickets a bed it goes from about $15 to $30 a bed and I am building 14 beds.

With that said an extra $200 isn't that big of a deal in the long run I guess.
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/21/21 07:15 PM

Here is a rough draft of the layout

Not drawn to scale.

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Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/21/21 08:34 PM

Very cool, I like that.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/22/21 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by BradyBuck

// Yes, it's right at $2 more a picket. 1.98 vs 3.88. //


ahh - location! Denton/Lewisville Lowes they're $3.08


cool layout!
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/22/21 03:11 AM

How tall are your sides? Maybe look at building some forms and pour some 1 1/2 inch concrete planks
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/22/21 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
How tall are your sides? Maybe look at building some forms and pour some 1 1/2 inch concrete planks


They are going to be about 18 inches tall.

I think the cedar pickets is going to be fine. It'll come out to about $30 a bed which isn't terrible.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/24/21 06:56 AM

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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/24/21 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by BradyBuck
Thoughts on pressure treated wood for raised beds?

With sky rocketing lumber prices I have been contemplating using 1x6x6 inch pressure treated fence pickets for beds at $1.98 a piece it will literally save me hundreds of dollars.

The plan is to build them 3 pickets high and 6ft by 3ft.

However my wife is adamant that we use cedar and afraid of possible chemicals leaching into the soil.



I just built using 1x6x16. She ain’t square but will hold dirt. I did an “E” so that I have isles to work both side of the beds.. boxes were intended to be 4 ft wide, total space 16x16.
I tilled the old garden, shoveled the perimeters, then built the sides up. Filled with 16 bags of leaves, personal compost, 4 yards of potting soil compost from the recycling plant at $38 each, and topped with about 1k lbs of manure yesterday. I still have some rock work, netting to prepare before potatoes go in, but at least the hard work is over.

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/24/21 10:27 PM

Get er done. cheers
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/24/21 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by Stevarino
Originally Posted by BradyBuck
Thoughts on pressure treated wood for raised beds?

With sky rocketing lumber prices I have been contemplating using 1x6x6 inch pressure treated fence pickets for beds at $1.98 a piece it will literally save me hundreds of dollars.

The plan is to build them 3 pickets high and 6ft by 3ft.

However my wife is adamant that we use cedar and afraid of possible chemicals leaching into the soil.



I just built using 1x6x16. She ain’t square but will hold dirt. I did an “E” so that I have isles to work both side of the beds.. boxes were intended to be 4 ft wide, total space 16x16.
I tilled the old garden, shoveled the perimeters, then built the sides up. Filled with 16 bags of leaves, personal compost, 4 yards of potting soil compost from the recycling plant at $38 each, and topped with about 1k lbs of manure yesterday. I still have some rock work, netting to prepare before potatoes go in, but at least the hard work is over.

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Nice!

Hope to start on mine this next week.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/24/21 11:52 PM

Looks good Stevarino!

Got 2/3 of my onions in. That's garlic in the back.

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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/26/21 03:40 PM

Very nice Stevarino! Making me rethink my bucket idea, not that I can get anything to sprout anyway. taz

Just trying to make the professor proud, no big deal!! Dam it!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/26/21 04:55 PM

I plan to put a few tomato plants in the ground early with the warming trend. It won't hurt anything except my pocketbook if I get a frost
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/26/21 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Very nice Stevarino! Making me rethink my bucket idea, not that I can get anything to sprout anyway. taz

Just trying to make the professor proud, no big deal!! Dam it!


Thank you sir, and thank you to who ever invented Ibuprofen.
My garden has sucked the last two years. Only been producing good numbers of red potatoes, and lots of tomatoes. Other summer stuff has struggled so I just said screw it and started over.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/26/21 10:17 PM

Came home and uncovered the containers, just to see. After the past few days watching Derek killin’ it, I’ve been anxious and trying to figure out what’s taking so long. Well FINALLY have twins come in today. Both chocolate habs. One of the top ones I really wanted to try. Poor Derek, been gettin’ blown up lately. Thanks buddy! cheers
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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/26/21 10:24 PM

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Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/26/21 10:32 PM

Nice! Almost all of my tomatoes have sprouted, and now my peppers are starting to sprout. up
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/27/21 12:13 AM

Ok I had a little hiccup! I’ll get there. Skinnerback, send me some pics brother!
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/27/21 12:19 AM

Will do. Making a big pot of smothered sausage right now. clap
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/27/21 12:42 AM

Nice. Just confirmed hot sauce making with my Mom this afternoon. February trip’s gonn’ be guuuuuud!!!
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/27/21 04:09 PM

Payne. They loved the Alpo High Protein canned beef and lamb mix this morning.
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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/27/21 05:12 PM

Nice, where are you finding Alpo? They recalled it last May and i haven't seen it since.


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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/27/21 05:36 PM

Correction. I believe it was Pedigree. Yellow can.

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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/27/21 07:33 PM

Smh, kicks the dog.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/27/21 08:05 PM

I'm at 100% except for the eggplants, they take 10 days minimum usually.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/21 12:01 AM

I'm at 100% on variety and 98%ish per seed on my pepper plants. Space X and Sugar Rush Cream have only sprouted one each. Don't really care about the Sugar Rush but need a couple more Space X to pop. Haven't started my other plants yet.
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/21 02:26 AM

School me on compost..

Going to start a pile here pretty quick.

I'll have to bring in good soil I assume to get my beds going to start..

I also have llamas and have some pretty good piles of llama pellets. Supposedly they are excellent fertilizer.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/21 02:49 AM

It's good that you have your own fertilizer. Back in the day I was growing over a thousand pepper plants a year out of an apartment. I needed fertilizer and there was a cow pasture across the street from me. I figured nobody would care, so one day I grabbed a couple 5 gallon buckets and jumped the fence picking up as many cow patties as I could. As my luck would have it, the owner/rancher just happened to swing by and saw me out there. He stopped and watched me for a while, and when I was leaving he stopped me and asked WTH I was doing on his property. I apologized and explained that I was picking up manure for my pepper plants. I'll never forget the WTF look on his face. He said "So you're stealing cow sh**? I guess there's a first time for everything." roflmao
He was actually cool about it and told me I could pick up all the cow sh** that I wanted. LOL. I offered to pay him, but he wouldn't take it.
Posted By: SnakeWrangler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/21 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
It's good that you have your own fertilizer. Back in the day I was growing over a thousand pepper plants a year out of an apartment. I needed fertilizer and there was a cow pasture across the street from me. I figured nobody would care, so one day I grabbed a couple 5 gallon buckets and jumped the fence picking up as many cow patties as I could. As my luck would have it, the owner/rancher just happened to swing by and saw me out there. He stopped and watched me for a while, and when I was leaving he stopped me and asked WTH I was doing on his property. I apologized and explained that I was picking up manure for my pepper plants. I'll never forget the WTF look on his face. He said "So you're stealing cow sh**? I guess there's a first time for everything." roflmao
He was actually cool about it and told me I could pick up all the cow sh** that I wanted. LOL. I offered to pay him, but he wouldn't take it.


Sooooo.....does that make you a "chitpicker"? roflmao
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/21 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
It's good that you have your own fertilizer. Back in the day I was growing over a thousand pepper plants a year out of an apartment. I needed fertilizer and there was a cow pasture across the street from me. I figured nobody would care, so one day I grabbed a couple 5 gallon buckets and jumped the fence picking up as many cow patties as I could. As my luck would have it, the owner/rancher just happened to swing by and saw me out there. He stopped and watched me for a while, and when I was leaving he stopped me and asked WTH I was doing on his property. I apologized and explained that I was picking up manure for my pepper plants. I'll never forget the WTF look on his face. He said "So you're stealing cow sh**? I guess there's a first time for everything." roflmao
He was actually cool about it and told me I could pick up all the cow sh** that I wanted. LOL. I offered to pay him, but he wouldn't take it.

Glad it was cow poop and not chicken. That would have made you nothing but a Chicken Sh+t Thief. LOL, I can just see the look on that ranchers face. chicken
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/21 01:06 PM

roflmao
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/21 01:16 PM

Skinner, when I was a kid, "pick'n and grin'n" meant something totally different, but I support your right to do so grin
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/21 02:57 PM

I used to compost cow pies, leaves and throw some grass in when ever.
Pretty simple to do not sure about the llama seems like that would take awhile to stack up.
I’d take a tractor out and fill the fel 4-5 times in a couple of hours.
I found a mushroom farm outside of Gonzales that sells their compost for 15 a yard. Never seen anything better. Comes with worms and casings.

I’d check could with your local nursery for your beds soil. I put top soil in my garden not sure about beds.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/21 06:11 PM

For the smaller garden, I use these bins to compost. All of our fruit, veggie scraps, egg shells, coffee grounds, a little dirt, leaves and limbs. Makes black gold pretty quick..
https://www.amazon.com/Algreen-Prod...11857323&sprefix=compost&sr=8-15
Posted By: jetdad

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/21 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by BradyBuck
School me on compost..

Going to start a pile here pretty quick.

I'll have to bring in good soil I assume to get my beds going to start..

I also have llamas and have some pretty good piles of llama pellets. Supposedly they are excellent fertilizer.


Any of your manure needs to be seasoned or composted. If you add it when it's fresh it will be too hot. Your plants will not like it.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/21 08:08 PM

What jetdad said, you can make rich soil in one week of August. stir baby stir
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/21 08:11 PM

Yep. I’ve had good luck using seasoned cow patties. Just crumble it up by hand and mix in the soil.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/21 09:48 PM

Seasoned poop. I learn something new every day!
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/21 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Seasoned poop. I learn something new every day!



It doesn’t smell as good as fresh, but it works. grin

As far as my plants sprouting, everything just stopped. The last few that started to sprout just layed over. The first ones that sprouted seems to have just stopped growing. I’m thinking that maybe I do need heat pads. Bout to run and get some.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/21 09:55 PM

I put a new heat pad in last night. Dang thing went to 100 degrees so I killed it and ordered a t-stat, it’ll be here tomorrow.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/21 10:53 PM

what kind of heat pads are y'all getting?
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/21 11:11 PM

None, they’re all gone now. I’m gonna try with the clear green house lids on, have been leaving them off.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/21 11:22 PM

you can put a portable heater up close also
Posted By: soooo

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/21 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Seasoned poop. I learn something new every day!



It doesn’t smell as good as fresh, but it works. grin

As far as my plants sprouting, everything just stopped. The last few that started to sprout just layed over. The first ones that sprouted seems to have just stopped growing. I’m thinking that maybe I do need heat pads. Bout to run and get some.


That sounds like damping off , a fungal issue .
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/29/21 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by soooo
Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Seasoned poop. I learn something new every day!



It doesn’t smell as good as fresh, but it works. grin

As far as my plants sprouting, everything just stopped. The last few that started to sprout just layed over. The first ones that sprouted seems to have just stopped growing. I’m thinking that maybe I do need heat pads. Bout to run and get some.


That sounds like damping off , a fungal issue .



Great.
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/29/21 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by jetdad
Originally Posted by BradyBuck
School me on compost..

Going to start a pile here pretty quick.

I'll have to bring in good soil I assume to get my beds going to start..

I also have llamas and have some pretty good piles of llama pellets. Supposedly they are excellent fertilizer.


Any of your manure needs to be seasoned or composted. If you add it when it's fresh it will be too hot. Your plants will not like it.



Cool thing about Llama manure is it is ready to go, it doesn't need to be composted.

I've got mounds and mounds of the stuff!
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/29/21 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Seasoned poop. I learn something new every day!



It doesn’t smell as good as fresh, but it works. grin

As far as my plants sprouting, everything just stopped. The last few that started to sprout just layed over. The first ones that sprouted seems to have just stopped growing. I’m thinking that maybe I do need heat pads. Bout to run and get some.


A lot of my peppers laid over a few days after sprouting and taking the domes off. I keep my germination soil pretty loose and damp, but not wet. Turns out they just needed a good watering. They perked up in about 30 minutes or so. I think the new roots might have been in a dry air pocket or something. Watering them packed in the soil tighter and fixed them. I let my soil dry a bit prior to watering. They haven't laid down since. I didn't breakout my mats this year. Garage has been getting down to as low as 48 at night and up to 80 during the day. Avg has been mid 60's the past week or so. I don't have any issues. Growth is always a little slow right now height wise. But most if not all have put on their first set of true leaves.
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/29/21 12:17 AM

https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/composting/manures/alpaca-manure-fertilizer.htm
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/29/21 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Seasoned poop. I learn something new every day!



It doesn’t smell as good as fresh, but it works. grin

As far as my plants sprouting, everything just stopped. The last few that started to sprout just layed over. The first ones that sprouted seems to have just stopped growing. I’m thinking that maybe I do need heat pads. Bout to run and get some.


A lot of my peppers laid over a few days after sprouting and taking the domes off. I keep my germination soil pretty loose and damp, but not wet. Turns out they just needed a good watering. They perked up in about 30 minutes or so. I think the new roots might have been in a dry air pocket or something. Watering them packed in the soil tighter and fixed them. I let my soil dry a bit prior to watering. They haven't laid down since. I didn't breakout my mats this year. Garage has been getting down to as low as 48 at night and up to 80 during the day. Avg has been mid 60's the past week or so. I don't have any issues. Growth is always a little slow right now height wise. But most if not all have put on their first set of true leaves.



Alright. I'm just gonna roll with the domes for a little bit and see what happens.
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/30/21 12:47 AM

My fruit trees and blackberry bushes came in today.

Going to get them in the ground tomorrow.

Tips on planting?

2 apple
1 plum
1 pear
1 fig
5 blackberry
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/30/21 01:00 AM

Peach trees are blooming in my area.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/30/21 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by BradyBuck
My fruit trees and blackberry bushes came in today.

Going to get them in the ground tomorrow.

Tips on planting?

2 apple
1 plum
1 pear
1 fig
5 blackberry



I have a very simple tree planting tip. DO NOT PLANT YOUR TREES TO FREAKING DEEP! Sorry for the anger but it drives me crazy to see all these new trees homeowners and mostly landscape companies planting trees 3-6" too deep. You want the foot flare exposed. Lots of youtubes on it. Don't be afraid to trim some roots prior to planting. You want roots that are sticking straight out and not making 90deg turns as they will continue to circle. I would make a rough side hole and not a smooth edge hole. Main thing is don't plant them deep.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/30/21 05:19 AM

Alright, I've got mold/fungus growing on the soil of some of my little cell pods now. Again, I've always started everything outside a little later in the year and have never seen this.....is it a problem? If so, what to do about this? I don't want what few plants I have sprouting now getting killed by a fungus. Will post pic, please advise......

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Posted By: soooo

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/30/21 02:12 PM


Direct sunlight will do it. The soil may have been a little too damp or the spores may have just been there all along.
dirtdoctor.com may have some helpful info.
Posted By: soooo

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/30/21 02:31 PM


Also can put say half a cup in a quart of warm or even hot water for a couple of hours and use that water to water the plants.
Mixing a little corn meal or even corn gluten meal with the soil works as a preventive. You may be able to find some horticultural corn meal at a garden supply.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/30/21 04:30 PM

Which brand seeding mix did you use btw?

Edit: Jiffy brand.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/21 01:45 AM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Alright, I've got mold/fungus growing on the soil of some of my little cell pods now. Again, I've always started everything outside a little later in the year and have never seen this.....is it a problem? If so, what to do about this? I don't want what few plants I have sprouting now getting killed by a fungus. Will post pic, please advise......

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What's up with the barbie.... wtf
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/21 03:07 AM

She’s the boss, TVM3.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/21 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Originally Posted by skinnerback
Alright, I've got mold/fungus growing on the soil of some of my little cell pods now. Again, I've always started everything outside a little later in the year and have never seen this.....is it a problem? If so, what to do about this? I don't want what few plants I have sprouting now getting killed by a fungus. Will post pic, please advise......

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What's up with the barbie.... wtf




roflmao Just a little humor....she reminds me of someone I used to know.



Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/21 07:45 AM

Badazz song. The first real red dirt song that hooked me
Posted By: soooo

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/21 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by soooo

Also can put say half a cup in a quart of warm or even hot water for a couple of hours and use that water to water the plants.
Mixing a little corn meal or even corn gluten meal with the soil works as a preventive. You may be able to find some horticultural corn meal at a garden supply.


That would be corn meal in the water
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/21 02:43 PM

That corn meal gluten will keep his seeds from germinating................after they germinate you can use CMG.......it will act as a fertilizer then.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/21 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Alright, I've got mold/fungus growing on the soil of some of my little cell pods now. Again, I've always started everything outside a little later in the year and have never seen this.....is it a problem? If so, what to do about this? I don't want what few plants I have sprouting now getting killed by a fungus. Will post pic, please advise......

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Not something I would worry too much about. Typically your fungus that will popup in your seedling mix is not a harmful one. Increasing air flow is your best option. And very light air. You don't even need to see the plants you have up swaying from the wind. Just a light breeze circulating in the room. Once your seedlings are up decrease your watering where the top layer dries some. If you want to add something get a fresh cinnamon stick and grade some fresh cinnamon and sprinkle it on top of them. (I would use a fresh stick and not the already ground your buy on the spice isle)

You might even get some algae form on top of the soil in the next week two. Again no big deal. Air flow and letting the top layer dry a bit and you'll be fine.
Posted By: SnakeWrangler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/21 06:23 PM

How are the chocolate twins 🐸
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/21 08:20 PM

Thanks guys.
Posted By: CharlieCTx

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/21 08:23 PM

My seeds have started sprouting, have a light on the way. I don't have a Barbie, might need to look into that... Next step I guess is building my bed. What are some proportions of things like, topsoil, potting soil, manure, etc? I'm planning on something 3x6 or 4x8 and probably 12" tall. For me, easiest I thing would be bags of material from HD/Lowes. Also, I've seen some references to adding leaves, are they a good additive for vege's? I've got maybe a loose lawn bag full I could rake up.

Thanks
Charlie
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/21 09:26 PM

Better off to let the leafs sit in a bag somewhere this soon to planting time. The leaves breaking down in the soil takes away something but I don't remember what it is LOL
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/21 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by SnakeWrangler
How are the chocolate twins 🐸


They’re GREAT! And they had a brother! A lemon starburst hab!
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/21 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Thanks guys.


See! The dude is freakin’ awesome ain’t he? Who woulda thunk cinnamon? I mean wth!
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/21 09:59 PM

I need to get me a mascot too. I do t have a Barbie doll but I DO have an elf that always sits on a shelf here. I think I’ll put his azz to work now.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/31/21 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
I need to get me a mascot too. I do t have a Barbie doll but I DO have an elf that always sits on a shelf here. I think I’ll put his azz to work now.



Gotta have a helper bro. She's my little scarecrow. Should be interesting tomorrow to see what my baby girl has to say about it LOL.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/01/21 02:17 AM

She’s awesome man! up whatever she wants, she gets!
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/02/21 03:55 PM

Got 92 pepper plants transferred to their new home. Still trying to get some more Space X and Sugar Rush Cream to germ. I'll start Tomatoes, squash and whatever else in a couple weeks.

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Posted By: yotehater

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/02/21 06:55 PM

That's a good start there Derek.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/02/21 07:53 PM

Guaranteed 100/100 germination and 41.6% more production during the season if you have one of these unmolested Derek original tff stickers.



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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/02/21 08:06 PM

roflmao roflmao
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/02/21 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Guaranteed 100/100 germination and 41.6% more production during the season if you have one of these unmolested Derek original tff stickers.



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I’ll keep ya posted. I have one. I don’t know if he molested it though, but no signature roflmao
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/02/21 09:13 PM

no sig = generic = non-guaranteed = worthless
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/03/21 05:30 AM

It you JUST said . . . .
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/03/21 05:32 AM

We got maters a comin’. Those are mostly Roma’s, 1 jubilee, gardener’s delight, delicious, and I’ll be danced if I forgot to write the 11 and 12 pods. Dern drinkin got me
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Posted By: yotehater

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/03/21 05:06 PM

It looks like you planted them all in the same cup. farmer
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/03/21 10:20 PM

I over seeded, just in case and good Lord they’re ALL sprouting now. Lol
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/21 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
We got maters a comin’. Those are mostly Roma’s, 1 jubilee, gardener’s delight, delicious, and I’ll be danced if I forgot to write the 11 and 12 pods. Dern drinkin got me
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clap
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/21 02:37 AM

So I planted my fruit trees a couple days ago. We are supposed to have a heavy freeze next week. I assume they'll be ok?
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/21 03:33 AM

Originally Posted by BradyBuck
So I planted my fruit trees a couple days ago. We are supposed to have a heavy freeze next week. I assume they'll be ok?

They should be fine.Especially apple trees,they love cold weather. Dont forget young trees need more water than older ones,their root system isn't as developed as older trees.
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/21 04:06 AM

Originally Posted by swampthang
Originally Posted by BradyBuck
So I planted my fruit trees a couple days ago. We are supposed to have a heavy freeze next week. I assume they'll be ok?

They should be fine.Especially apple trees,they love cold weather. Dont forget young trees need more water than older ones,their root system isn't as developed as older trees.


Been keeping them pretty moist...
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/21 04:17 AM

BTW yall might want to check the PH of your tap water(if thats what you use to water with). I checked mine the other day and its 9 on the PH scale. Very alkaline. No wonder my citrus trees were slowly dieing,I checked the soil PH and it's off the chart at 14! I dont see how any plant could survive PH that high. Gonna hit them with gypsum,sulphur and white vinegar,see if I can bring that PH down.
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/21 04:29 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
I over seeded, just in case and good Lord they’re ALL sprouting now. Lol

I did that once, It didn't work out so well.
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/21 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by swampthang
BTW yall might want to check the PH of your tap water(if thats what you use to water with). I checked mine the other day and its 9 on the PH scale. Very alkaline. No wonder my citrus trees were slowly dieing,I checked the soil PH and it's off the chart at 14! I dont see how any plant could survive PH that high. Gonna hit them with gypsum,sulphur and white vinegar,see if I can bring that PH down.


What did you use? Litmus paper?
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/21 06:02 AM

I have a probe meter bought off ebay($8) and the little paper strips as well. Most plants are fine with a PH between 5.5 and 7. Some plants might prefer a PH lower than that though,Blueberries,Azaleas,etc.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/21 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by NORML as can be
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
I over seeded, just in case and good Lord they’re ALL sprouting now. Lol

I did that once, It didn't work out so well.


I’ll probably lose a lot on that tray if I can’t transplant cleanly but I at least know they’re all good seeds. My son is jacked up over it! [Linked Image]
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/21 02:01 PM

Are those cheesy soil testers at Lowe’s any good? The 4 colored tube ones? I think I’d rather get a probe style
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/21 02:16 PM

You can transplant them twice.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/21 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by swampthang
BTW yall might want to check the PH of your tap water(if thats what you use to water with). I checked mine the other day and its 9 on the PH scale. Very alkaline. No wonder my citrus trees were slowly dieing,I checked the soil PH and it's off the chart at 14! I dont see how any plant could survive PH that high. Gonna hit them with gypsum,sulphur and white vinegar,see if I can bring that PH down.


14 seems extremely high. Was this tested by a lab? 2 apps a year of elemental Sulphur at 5lbs per 1000sq feet April and September. I wouldn't do white vinegar. Go with citric acid. Literally a pinch or 2 per gallon will take your tap water from 9 to a 5 or 6. If you want to do it on a larger scale. With a backpack sprayer dissolve 1lb of citric acid in a gallon of water and apply over 1000sq feet. Water it in immediately. This will be something you will have to do every month. If your trees are showing an iron deficiency (chlorosis) because your high Ph, you can do foliar apps of iron.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/21 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Are those cheesy soil testers at Lowe’s any good? The 4 colored tube ones? I think I’d rather get a probe style


Those are junk. $20-25 for an actual lab to do a good test. Well worth it.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/21 03:53 PM

sent mine to aggie on Monday, if you do it get the micro nutrient
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/21 04:17 PM

I simply put more than I need in there. I try for a low number on the nitrogen..
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/21 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by swampthang
BTW yall might want to check the PH of your tap water(if thats what you use to water with). I checked mine the other day and its 9 on the PH scale. Very alkaline. No wonder my citrus trees were slowly dieing,I checked the soil PH and it's off the chart at 14! I dont see how any plant could survive PH that high. Gonna hit them with gypsum,sulphur and white vinegar,see if I can bring that PH down.


14 seems extremely high. Was this tested by a lab? 2 apps a year of elemental Sulphur at 5lbs per 1000sq feet April and September. I wouldn't do white vinegar. Go with citric acid. Literally a pinch or 2 per gallon will take your tap water from 9 to a 5 or 6. If you want to do it on a larger scale. With a backpack sprayer dissolve 1lb of citric acid in a gallon of water and apply over 1000sq feet. Water it in immediately. This will be something you will have to do every month. If your trees are showing an iron deficiency (chlorosis) because your high Ph, you can do foliar apps of iron.

To be honest the meter only goes to 11 but the needle slammed the 11 so hard and solid I assume it would go to 14 if the meter allowed it. They are planted in hard packed black tight clay and I'm sure the roots are very unhappy about that. I got tons of mandarins off them when they were in big tubs but I planted them in the ground because I got tired of dragging them inside when the temps are below 28 degrees. They've been struggling since then. I'm headed out to find some iron sulfate or aluminum sulfate,supposedly those can quickly lower the PH of soil. I got nothing to lose at this point.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/21 05:45 PM

I would be very careful using aluminum sulfate. It can be very toxic and kill your plants if used incorrectly. Ferrous sulfate is fine. Truthfully there is no real way to lower your Ph quickly. It's a slow process. Personally I would take the safe approach and use elemental Sulphur, citric acid. If you do regular fertilizer apps to your lawn. Use a fertilizer that the nitrogen is ammonium sulfate based. Or you can buy straight ammonium sulfate and spread it at 1.5lbs per 1000sq feet monthly April-Oct depending on your location. I would make those and apps and I would completely bypass the soil and do foliar applications of fert to the trees.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/21 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by BradyBuck
Originally Posted by swampthang
Originally Posted by BradyBuck
So I planted my fruit trees a couple days ago. We are supposed to have a heavy freeze next week. I assume they'll be ok?

They should be fine.Especially apple trees,they love cold weather. Dont forget young trees need more water than older ones,their root system isn't as developed as older trees.


Been keeping them pretty moist...


have your new tree(s) started budding putting or leaves???

My peach tree is in full bloom and already putting on buds and little peaches (Sam Houston variety). By next Tuesday night, we are expecting a freeze and a hard freeze Wed. thru Friday nights. I built 4x 2x2 frames covered in garden cloth that I will put up around the tree and put a quartz halogen shop light inside (turned on) during the time the temps are freezing.

I learned my lesson the hard way 2 or 3 years ago about this time of year with a hard freeze and only got 1 peach survive.

our Home Depot has a cart in the back with purple paint sprayed on defective materials (most are just really warped) and you can make up a frame for cheap. The garden cloth we got a bit one and cut into approximately 10' x 10' pieces, then stapled to the frame, then use 3-4" long deck screws (3-4 per leg) to hold the legs together making a 10' x 10' x 10' cube with the quartz light, creates a nice warm chimney to protect the tree/blooms/fruit
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/21 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
I would be very careful using aluminum sulfate. It can be very toxic and kill your plants if used incorrectly. Ferrous sulfate is fine. Truthfully there is no real way to lower your Ph quickly. It's a slow process. Personally I would take the safe approach and use elemental Sulphur, citric acid. If you do regular fertilizer apps to your lawn. Use a fertilizer that the nitrogen is ammonium sulfate based. Or you can buy straight ammonium sulfate and spread it at 1.5lbs per 1000sq feet monthly April-Oct depending on your location. I would make those and apps and I would completely bypass the soil and do foliar applications of fert to the trees.

Like I say I dont have much to lose at this point.They're gonna be dead soon if I cant get that PH down. Its my understanding when the PH is too high nutrients are "locked up" and the plant cant access them,nitrogen,iron,etc. I been foliar feeding them the last 3 weeks but it dont seem to be doing a whole lot of good. Maybe when warm weather gets here the root area will dry out and the trees will perk up some. I'm sure citrus trees hate cold,wet feet.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/21 06:45 PM

You are correct about nutrients being locked up but they are absorbed foliar very easily. What are you foliar feeding and at what rate.
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/21 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
You are correct about nutrients being locked up but they are absorbed foliar very easily. What are you foliar feeding and at what rate.

Its just a weak solution of liquid fertilizer,sprayed 2 or 3 times per week. I know its the middle of winter and I'm not expecting to see any growth but that high PH is very troubling. I'm almost certain thats why they been slowly dieing.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/21 07:35 PM

I don't have a doubt your high Ph is your main issue. Probably not going to see a lot of pop using fertilizer now. When it warms up you should. Use a good foliar that has a good list of micronutrients in it. Typically a foliar fert will last about 2 weeks before you need to reapply.
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/05/21 04:47 AM

Originally Posted by PMK
Originally Posted by BradyBuck
Originally Posted by swampthang
Originally Posted by BradyBuck
So I planted my fruit trees a couple days ago. We are supposed to have a heavy freeze next week. I assume they'll be ok?

They should be fine.Especially apple trees,they love cold weather. Dont forget young trees need more water than older ones,their root system isn't as developed as older trees.


Been keeping them pretty moist...


have your new tree(s) started budding putting or leaves???

My peach tree is in full bloom and already putting on buds and little peaches (Sam Houston variety). By next Tuesday night, we are expecting a freeze and a hard freeze Wed. thru Friday nights. I built 4x 2x2 frames covered in garden cloth that I will put up around the tree and put a quartz halogen shop light inside (turned on) during the time the temps are freezing.

I learned my lesson the hard way 2 or 3 years ago about this time of year with a hard freeze and only got 1 peach survive.

our Home Depot has a cart in the back with purple paint sprayed on defective materials (most are just really warped) and you can make up a frame for cheap. The garden cloth we got a bit one and cut into approximately 10' x 10' pieces, then stapled to the frame, then use 3-4" long deck screws (3-4 per leg) to hold the legs together making a 10' x 10' x 10' cube with the quartz light, creates a nice warm chimney to protect the tree/blooms/fruit


No, the new trees are all dormant, some very small budding

My older peach tree has not quite started to leaf but getting close..
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/05/21 04:53 PM

Put in 5 blackberry bushes yesterday. They are dormant as well.

Really hope they'll be ok with this freeze.

Going to mulch everything in really well.
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/21 11:14 PM

Onions looking good

5 days in

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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/21 01:08 AM

Why does there have to be SO many varieties of everything!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/21 01:56 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Why does there have to be SO many varieties of everything!


Good question. One or two will do me fine. I scald them, skin them, cut a third of the the stem end of, a squeeze the seeds/pulp off. Works better as a paste tomato than Romos for me. I don't have the patience for the cherry tomatoes.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/21 01:58 PM

my wife and i got out our protective frame work for our peach tree yesterday and will get it set up with lights on Wed. to protect our peach tree. Most of the blooms are starting to drop with little tiny peaches showing. This upcoming cold snap is projecting temperatures down into the teens with Sunday/Monday possibly not getting above freezing for the high temp.
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/21 05:08 PM

The wife bought these tomato seeds, thought they were pretty neat. We will see how they turn out.

Atomic Grape Tomatoes

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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/21 06:56 PM

WHAT tha HECK! Those look trippy
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/21 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
WHAT tha HECK! Those look trippy


https://www.rareseeds.com/store/vegetables/tomato/wild-boar-farms/atomic-grape
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/21 09:49 PM

I just tilled up my garden. The moister level was perfect. I plan to put in my tomato plants after this weekends freeze but only if no more frost is in the forecast. I like to get my tomatoes in early buts that's just me. You plant two weeks later and the tomatoes will ripen within a week. Its my theory that a plants mission is to reproduce and the later ones will hurry up to catch up.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/21 12:15 AM

over the weekend, the wife and I did a little masonry work around the base of the peach tree since the landscape timbers were getting pretty rotten, will help with adding more soil around the base as well
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with the upcoming cold snap, we got phase 1 of the protection set up this afternoon using the framed panels covered in garden cloth I mentioned a few days ago. Sure makes it easy to set up, 3 screws per corner... We will put a top over it before the freezing temps get here. There is a dual quartz halogen shop light and 2 drop cord lights inside spaced to help heat up the inside but far enough away from the blooms/peaches to prevent burning (hopefully)
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/21 12:17 AM

That should protect those blooms.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/21 03:07 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
That should protect those blooms.


O lay if he stands out there all day singing sweet lullabies to it.
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/21 05:10 AM

If this cold snap lasts as long as they are predicting I might get peaches off my tree this year. Its a high-chill variety ( Ranger) and it didn't produce a single peach last year because of the mild winter we had. Had about 250 the year before that. The buds haven't even started to swell as of today.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/21 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by PMK
over the weekend, the wife and I did a little masonry work around the base of the peach tree since the landscape timbers were getting pretty rotten, will help with adding more soil around the base as well
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with the upcoming cold snap, we got phase 1 of the protection set up this afternoon using the framed panels covered in garden cloth I mentioned a few days ago. Sure makes it easy to set up, 3 screws per corner... We will put a top over it before the freezing temps get here. There is a dual quartz halogen shop light and 2 drop cord lights inside spaced to help heat up the inside but far enough away from the blooms/peaches to prevent burning (hopefully)
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Is that gravel that you planted your fruit trees in? If so, is it for weed control, or why? Thank you Sir.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/21 04:06 PM

LOL ... yes, that 1/2-3/4" river gravel (pea gravel) but it's just to cover up the big rock that goes under our property (we call it the China rock, jokingly it goes all the way to China). Where the tree is, there was a low spot that had about 8-9" of natural soil on top of the rock, so we built up a 4' x 4' by ~18" tall elevated bed using landscape timber to plant the tree in. If you look to the left side of the picture, we have an elevated 4' x 8' by ~14" tall garden bed area, where there is also 8-9" of natural soil under. The "China" rock is a ledge of limestone that goes under several acres of our property that is one big solid hunk like a slab of concrete that was 5" thick in front of our house (know that from the crew putting in the septic tank system) ... so we have to go up to plant anything. The masonry work we did last weekend was to the outside of the 4x4 landscape timber frame that was pretty rotten to where we had a hard time watering the peach tree (water just ran out).

so ... since the rest of the China rock is uneven and fairly exposed over a large portion of the eastern portion of the yard area, I merely brought in several loads of pea gravel to somewhat level out the area.

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/21 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by PMK
over the weekend, the wife and I did a little masonry work around the base of the peach tree since the landscape timbers were getting pretty rotten, will help with adding more soil around the base as well
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with the upcoming cold snap, we got phase 1 of the protection set up this afternoon using the framed panels covered in garden cloth I mentioned a few days ago. Sure makes it easy to set up, 3 screws per corner... We will put a top over it before the freezing temps get here. There is a dual quartz halogen shop light and 2 drop cord lights inside spaced to help heat up the inside but far enough away from the blooms/peaches to prevent burning (hopefully)
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It's tough to tell from the pic, but it looks like you have way too much soil around the base. You want the root flare exposed.
https://www.clemson.edu/cafls/vincent/articles/show_me_your_root_flare.pdf

Here is my lemon tree I planted this past weekend. I removed all the soil around the base when I transplanted it from the pot it was in and exposed all the flare.
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Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/21 05:18 PM

yep, root flare is above ground level, what you see is mulch that we put in to help retain water.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/21 05:22 PM

up
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/21 09:12 PM

Interesting
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/21 09:29 PM

peach tree is middle right with the square around it, garden directly above (can't see) and the large white looking area is the China rock that goes all the way back to the house (all the way under the house for that matter). Towards the bottom, I hauled in a bunch of top soil (14-16") so we would have a little bit of a yard in that direction. The trees in the upper center portion are 2 large live oak trees that must have started in a small crack in the China rock several hundred years ago and just kept pushing the roots deeper into the crack. Both are single base with 2 and 3 main tree trunks starting at ground level. Pretty interesting. We have a Spanish red oak that started from an acorn since we moved in 21+ ears ago that started in a honeycomb hole in a surface rock about the size of a truck hood by 3 foot thick that is now about 20+ feet tall and about 8" diameter at the base, cracked the rock and we have toted most of it off in several large pieces.

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Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/21 09:34 PM

Dont forget to water outside that raised box. I'm sure the roots will start circling then send roots out underneath that box's walls. Some peach tree varieties are very aggressive growers and get very large. Mine puts on about 20" of new growth per year. Yours might not be quite that aggressive.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/21 03:07 PM

Decided to move the grow indoors for the next few days.
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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/21 08:10 PM

Daggum 92!!! Nooooyce!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/16/21 09:35 PM

I plan to put my tomato plants in the ground if I can find them and if there are no more freeze warning,
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/17/21 05:19 PM

just waiting to see how my peach tree faired during this historical cold spell. Everything looked great going into Sunday night even with temps down in the low teens and snowing like crazy ... then the power started going out, which left all the lights without power inside the enclosure. The power has been very spotty since mid day on Monday with several long periods (6 hours and 10 hours) without power ... It will be a miracle if we get any peaches this year.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/17/21 11:09 PM

Got the rest of the garden seeds started while sitting around doing nothing. Tomatoes, squash, zucchini, cucumbers.
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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/21 12:03 AM

I hope I don’t lose everything I’ve been working so damn hard on. I’m beyond pissed about this
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/21 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Decided to move the grow indoors for the next few days.
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Derek do you transplant these to the larger pots or did you start them in the larger pots?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/21 04:28 PM

I started the peppers in starter treys with a dome. I thin transferred them to the 4" pots you see. That's what they will stay in until I plant them outdoors. I start Tomatoes, squash, zucchini, cucumbers directly in the 4" pots since they are very easy to get the seeds to germinate.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/21 05:39 PM

I have started mine in the small tra ys and now have tomatoes I need to transplant I think

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/21 06:00 PM

The tomatoes look ready to transplant. I would transplant and bury them deep. When mine are ready to go outside from the 4" pot they will be 6-8" tall. I will cut the first set of leaves off and bury them to the next set where only about 3" is out of the ground.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/21 06:08 PM

That is the way i transplanted mine.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/21 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
I started the peppers in starter treys with a dome. I thin transferred them to the 4" pots you see. That's what they will stay in until I plant them outdoors. I start Tomatoes, squash, zucchini, cucumbers directly in the 4" pots since they are very easy to get the seeds to germinate.


when do you plant the squash,zucchini, cucumbers?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/21 06:25 PM

A couple weeks later for me. Bring it.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/21 06:29 PM

I started those seeds yesterday.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/21 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
I started those seeds yesterday.


1 seed per pot or 3 and lose 2
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/21 06:52 PM

I did 2 per pot. 3 and lose 2 would be fine.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/21 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
I did 2 per pot. 3 and lose 2 would be fine.


Do you plant in the ground or in containers? All of mine go in containers

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/21 07:11 PM

That looks good! I do both. I have 7ea 4'x4' raised beds and like 10 pots.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/19/21 03:29 AM

Tell me about those big bags vs syrup/molasses tubs. They work OK, how long do they last etc? Worth the price?
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/19/21 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Tell me about those big bags vs syrup/molasses tubs. They work OK, how long do they last etc? Worth the price?


+1 interested
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/19/21 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Tell me about those big bags vs syrup/molasses tubs. They work OK, how long do they last etc? Worth the price?


They were not very expensive and I have used them for 2 full years now. No complaints yet
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/20/21 02:30 AM

They look great.

My garden nursery is getting new tomato plants Tuesday. Won't hurt anything but my pocketbook if I lose them.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/20/21 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
Originally Posted by skinnerback
Tell me about those big bags vs syrup/molasses tubs. They work OK, how long do they last etc? Worth the price?


They were not very expensive and I have used them for 2 full years now. No complaints yet


Where’d you get them?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/21/21 12:36 AM

I ride. Oops plant Wednesday.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/21/21 12:40 AM

All my plants stopped growing in the little seed starter cells, roots ran out of room I reckon. Lost a few, I waited too long. Just went and got some SOLO cups & more soil, transplanting momentarily.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/21 06:03 PM

I ride tomorrow morning. I just called and tomato plants are in stock. cheers
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/21 06:52 PM

Bill does your HEB have plants yet? Figure ours will in the next couple weeks. Wanted to see if the southern stores had Tycoon Tomatoes this year.
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/21 08:18 PM

That cold spell took a toll on my orange and mandarin trees. All the leaves are brown and dead. But I scratched the main trunk bark with my thumbnail and its green underneath so maybe they're not dead after all. I guess I'll just have to wait and see.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/21 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Bill does your HEB have plants yet? Figure ours will in the next couple weeks. Wanted to see if the southern stores had Tycoon Tomatoes this year.


I am not sure. Thanks for asking.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/21 11:17 PM

after all the work we put in to protect our peach tree from the hard freeze, losing power for 6-10 hours several time took its toll I'm afraid. I seriously doubt any fruit will survive. We took down the framework this morning to find all the leaves are pretty much toast.
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Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/21 11:37 PM

^^^^^^ Wow,that's brutal. Will be curious to see if the tree itself lives.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/21 12:39 AM

I'm out, everything died.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/21 01:24 AM

More sowed....

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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/21 03:19 AM

You need the hairy dirt. Ask me how I know
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/21 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
I'm out, everything died.




see if the nitro will bring them back eek2 rofl
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/21 11:48 AM

200 +/- so far

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Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/21 12:14 PM

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Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/21 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
I'm out, everything died.


Yeah, talking to a couple here yesterday that run a nursery they didn't lose much but some nurseries farther south lost everything.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/21 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Chickenman
200 +/- so far

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Ok that’s awesome sir!
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/21 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by BradyBuck
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What does all the fresh grated parmesan do?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/21 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Paluxy
Originally Posted by Payne
I'm out, everything died.


Yeah, talking to a couple here yesterday that run a nursery they didn't lose much but some nurseries farther south lost everything.



Lost power wit subzero temps also lost a cow and a couple of calves.

Going live vicariously through cman & Derek
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/21 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Originally Posted by Paluxy
Originally Posted by Payne
I'm out, everything died.


Yeah, talking to a couple here yesterday that run a nursery they didn't lose much but some nurseries farther south lost everything.



Lost power wit subzero temps also lost a cow and a couple of calves.

Going live vicariously through cman & Derek



Damn.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/21 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Originally Posted by Paluxy
Originally Posted by Payne
I'm out, everything died.


Yeah, talking to a couple here yesterday that run a nursery they didn't lose much but some nurseries farther south lost everything.



Lost power wit subzero temps also lost a cow and a couple of calves.

Going live vicariously through cman & Derek


Payne you gotta get back on that pony and replant. You have a very long growing season down there. LFG! This is the year of Payne!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/21 03:55 PM

Payne thinks that only sissies buy started plants.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/21 04:23 PM

So in all your infantile wisdom you know how I think now?
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/21 05:03 PM

rofl
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/21 08:01 PM

KABOOOOOOOOM goes that nitro........ rofl
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/24/21 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by BradyBuck
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What does all the fresh grated parmesan do?


Heck, I dunno

Wife did it. Said something about helping retain moisture.

Can't remember what she called it. Starts with a V maybe?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/24/21 03:28 PM


Miracles still happen. Enchanted Gardens nursery protected all their plants through the big chill. I planted them flat and watered them in. I'll come back later and hip up the rows. BLTs are on the way.

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Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/24/21 03:51 PM

right on Bill. Whats your average last frost down there?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/24/21 03:58 PM

It seems to be getting later. I can cover the plants or put an overnight drip on them if necessary. It will not hurt anything but my pocketbook if I have to re-plant. The nursery is only 5 miles from me.
Posted By: Always ready 2 hunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/24/21 08:53 PM

I'm gonna be a sissy planter this year if nurseries have plants that survived. I'm late getting my raised boxes prepped. Better late than never, I guess.
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/21 04:29 AM

Originally Posted by BradyBuck
Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by BradyBuck
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What does all the fresh grated parmesan do?


Heck, I dunno

Wife did it. Said something about helping retain moisture.

Can't remember what she called it. Starts with a V maybe?


Perlite is what it's called
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/21 12:44 PM

My weather man reported that we will love the weather for the remainder of the month and beyond if we liked today,
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/21 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by BradyBuck
Perlite is what it's called


I knew it was perlite. I was just messing with ya. It doesn't have any benefit sitting on top of the soil like that though. It does retain a little bit of moisture and nutes but not a lot. It's better mixed into the soil for aeration and draining. The one that starts with a V is vermiculite. That one will retain quite a bit of moisture and nutrients. Again mixed into the soil. I use both in my soil blends and add it to my raised beds prior to tilling them in spring.
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/21 04:13 PM

looks good bill. my onions dont look so good. last time they got snowed on a few years ago they came out great but it wasnt as cold as this go round
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/21 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by Poppa
looks good bill. my onions dont look so good. last time they got snowed on a few years ago they came out great but it wasnt as cold as this go round


I'm so happy I'm talking to myself. I may as well share.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/21 09:43 PM

Anyone ever grow Grappoli D’Inverno tomatoes? Some seeds showed up yesterday so I looked them up. They sound amazing
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/21 11:17 PM

Can't wait to see them.
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/21 01:56 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by BradyBuck
Perlite is what it's called


I knew it was perlite. I was just messing with ya. It doesn't have any benefit sitting on top of the soil like that though. It does retain a little bit of moisture and nutes but not a lot. It's better mixed into the soil for aeration and draining. The one that starts with a V is vermiculite. That one will retain quite a bit of moisture and nutrients. Again mixed into the soil. I use both in my soil blends and add it to my raised beds prior to tilling them in spring.


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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/21 02:04 AM

Squash is up!
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/21 02:05 AM

I hate squash bores.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/21 02:11 AM

Man I've transplanted a lot of small plants with no issues in the past, but that's not the case this time. First time using those little 72 cell trays & grow lights, and when transplanting them I disturbed a lot of roots. It was a messy ordeal all the way around. Now, I am losing way more than the normal number of little plants. Next time, I will just start them all in Solo cups and do less. I used to always start my seeds in small styrophome cups and then transplant, never lost any. Lost a bunch this way and will probly lose more. Bunch are stunted too.....I'm going to salvage what I can from these & plant more soon. All of my Carolina Reapers & Tabasco's germinated & were doing great. Lost almost all of them now. crying
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/21 01:33 PM

Pepper belly?
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/21 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Pepper belly?

No he's a white guy.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/21 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by swampthang
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Pepper belly?

No he's a white guy.


roflmao it was quiet in this house till I read that
Posted By: erathar

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/21 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by swampthang
That cold spell took a toll on my orange and mandarin trees. All the leaves are brown and dead. But I scratched the main trunk bark with my thumbnail and its green underneath so maybe they're not dead after all. I guess I'll just have to wait and see.



The core is still alive? roflmao
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/21 07:51 PM

Finally got little man after some tomato seeds. He doesn’t care for dirt on his hands so I have a feeling he’s gonna make a great supervisor while I do the grunt work. I’m cool with that. It’s only the first father/son project we’ve really ever had so I’m ecstatic! Whatever gets him out of those dammed electronics!!!
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Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/21 08:16 PM

Good stuff right there! cheers
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/21 05:03 PM

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/21 05:17 PM

Coon kid Bullfrog. Planting time is almost here. I slept with my AC on last night.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/21 02:21 AM

Huge thanks to Bullfrog. He sent me some Dragon and Pequin seeds and they are doing great. Thank you good sir for your seed.
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Posted By: drag13honda

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/21 04:42 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Finally got little man after some tomato seeds.


Good to see kiddos getting involved. My cousin is planning on getting a garden going again this year as his first little one is getting old enough for her to get to enjoy seeing the process and help him out.
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/21 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Good stuff right there! cheers

Yes sir!
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/21 06:53 AM

Derek, those sure are a thing of beauty!!! Dang! I ain’t far behind ya. Ok a little but we’ll get there. up You keep teachin’ and I’ll keep Lear in’

PS- better lights . . . . . . engage!!! Be here in a couple days.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/21 11:45 AM

Most are up. Some never sprouted like bells and the scorch bonnets. When our power went out, my shop got down to at least 33. Only lost one sprout but it probably delayed the growth of everything.

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/21 12:45 PM

When do you plan on putting them in the ground?
Posted By: ducknbass

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/21 02:34 PM

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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/21 02:36 PM

Lol. I like that
Posted By: drag13honda

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/21 01:41 AM

Y'all have any favorites on tomatoes around here? I am getting a small garden going again this year after taking a couple of years off for various reasons. I'll probably plant 2 or 3 tomato plants, one of which I already have. For the other(s) I was curious if anybody had any favorites. I will say I typically prefer a medium sized tomato as opposed to some of the huge tomatoes but am open to any suggestions y'all want to throw my way.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/21 01:50 AM

Three good plants will feed a dozen

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Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/21 03:01 AM

Before the freeze I planted 2 tomato plants and 2 pepper plants. I moved them inside and they seem to have faired well. I have my beds covered for the future tomatoes to warm the soil and think it is time to plant. What you say?

I'm sticking to tomatoes, peppers, herbs and eggplant because I will use them and they seem to grow the best for me.
Posted By: fmrmbmlm

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/21 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by drag13honda
Y'all have any favorites on tomatoes around here? I am getting a small garden going again this year after taking a couple of years off for various reasons. I'll probably plant 2 or 3 tomato plants, one of which I already have. For the other(s) I was curious if anybody had any favorites. I will say I typically prefer a medium sized tomato as opposed to some of the huge tomatoes but am open to any suggestions y'all want to throw my way.

Early Girl
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/21 04:35 PM

I am planting my cucumbers and peppers this afternoon. Looks as if my tomatoes will bloom nest week, I saw a little bite in one so I put some Thruicide on all of them. Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. I get my pecan trees sprayed each spring. It takes a really big blast for the trees but The Tree Doctor turns the magic nozzle to sprinkle. Easy least.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/21 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by drag13honda
Y'all have any favorites on tomatoes around here? I am getting a small garden going again this year after taking a couple of years off for various reasons. I'll probably plant 2 or 3 tomato plants, one of which I already have. For the other(s) I was curious if anybody had any favorites. I will say I typically prefer a medium sized tomato as opposed to some of the huge tomatoes but am open to any suggestions y'all want to throw my way.


If you have a HEB close see if they have Tycoon. That's my personal favorite. I've been on the Roma train the past couple years growing a few different varieties of those.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/21 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner

Miracles still happen. Enchanted Gardens nursery protected all their plants through the big chill. I planted them flat and watered them in. I'll come back later and hip up the rows. BLTs are on the way.

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Posted By: pkhunter624

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/21 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
[quote=drag13honda]Y'all have any favorites on tomatoes around here? I am getting a small garden going again this year after taking a couple of years off for various reasons. I'll probably plant 2 or 3 tomato plants, one of which I already have. For the other(s) I was curious if anybody had any favorites. I will say I typically prefer a medium sized tomato as opposed to some of the huge tomatoes but am open to any suggestions y'all want to throw my way.


I have good luck with Celebrity (medium size) tomato. Also grow Roma's and Sweet 100's. Good luck
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/21 11:58 PM

I planted celebrities and better boys my first planting. I picked up a Big Brother today to fill out my row. It is a new one for me,
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/21 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
I planted celebrities and better boys my first planting. I picked up a Big Brother today to fill out my row. It is a new one for me,


They are already getting an extra hour of sunlight.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/21 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by drag13honda
Y'all have any favorites on tomatoes around here? I am getting a small garden going again this year after taking a couple of years off for various reasons. I'll probably plant 2 or 3 tomato plants, one of which I already have. For the other(s) I was curious if anybody had any favorites. I will say I typically prefer a medium sized tomato as opposed to some of the huge tomatoes but am open to any suggestions y'all want to throw my way.


Celebrity and Early Girl are my two favs. cheers
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/21 06:28 PM

Garden is in. Tomatoes, eggplant, peppers, herbs. Planted some marigolds to attract bees. Need some thai basil bc bees were all over that stuff last year.
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/21 06:43 PM

Btw, if a woman approaches you, known as wife, and says "I want to start composting" then that translates to "I want you to start composting for me".
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/21 07:03 PM

You simply can not take that to the bank.
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/21 07:18 PM

Wanna bet
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/21 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
You simply can not take that to the bank.


Well, you could but they won’t appreciate it much
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/21 05:18 PM

we usually plant Celebrity and a couple of other medium to large tomato plants and 3-4 cherry tomato varieties. I will have to check on the names of the others because we have rotated thru several with some success and some failure. Early girl, big boy, beef steak and some hybrids...
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/21 11:19 PM

I still can’t believe how dang easy the tomatoes are to get started vs the peppers! Good Lord those are serious work. I hope it pays off and can’t give enough away this year.

If I could somehow create a field of pequins that looks like the Wizard of Oz poppy fields, I’d be in Heaven!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/21 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
I still can’t believe how dang easy the tomatoes are to get started vs the peppers! Good Lord those are serious work. I hope it pays off and can’t give enough away this year.

If I could somehow create a field of pequins that looks like the Wizard of Oz poppy fields, I’d be in Heaven!


Just wait until you try cucumbers.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/21 01:46 AM

Where is the best place to buy flower seeds on-line?

Started transplanting today, don't really want to just run to Lowe's or the feed store like I used to.

Looking specifically for companion plants for tomatoes & peppers. Mexican Marigolds and Chrysanthemums. Bug-repellent.
Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/21 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Where is the best place to buy flower seeds on-line?

Started transplanting today, don't really want to just run to Lowe's or the feed store like I used to.

Looking specifically for companion plants for tomatoes & peppers. Mexican Marigolds and Chrysanthemums. Bug-repellent.


Might try https://www.willhiteseed.com/ They are up in my neck of the woods
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/21 02:02 AM

They all work just fine.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/21 12:18 PM

https://www.almanac.com/companion-planting-chart-vegetables

https://www.countryliving.com/gardening/news/g4188/companion-planting/
Posted By: yotehater

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/21 01:33 PM

Transplanted some of the larger zucchini into solo cups but the others need more root mass. The tomatoes are starting to look like tomatoes. Okra and broccoli coming along. The peppers are slower.
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Got carrots and a couple of different lettuce ready to plant outside in containers. I'm afraid that 12 year old Rosemary didn't survive the freeze. Maybe some spring growth will come up. I'm already seeing new growth on the rose bushes. Glad I didn't rip them up.
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Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/21 06:40 PM

Thanks guys.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/21 08:01 PM




welcome
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/21 08:08 PM

Did cman tell you about me?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/21 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Did cman tell you about me?


This is what he texted me last night. A tree is known by its fruit; Payne by his deeds. His good deeds are never lost; he who sows courtesy reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/21 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Payne
Did cman tell you about me?


This is what he texted me last night. A tree is known by its fruit; Payne by his deeds. His good deeds are never lost; he who sows courtesy reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.


up Right on.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/21 09:51 PM

I really like the way you think.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/21 10:08 PM

I don't think you know what that saying means
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/21 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
I don't think you know what that saying means


Well it sounds warm and fuzzy! roflmao
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/21 11:51 PM

looks like he edited it
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/21 02:34 AM

Onions survived the -1 temps and snow. Pretty weird.

Starters look good. Need to move squash to the garden or to bigger cups by Saturday. I'm keeping a small fan on them in their incubator.

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Tilled the prime spot. Too wet. Made a solid pass and unclogged the tiller several times. Hope to finish Friday before the next rain and then cover.

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Got the last 3 blackberries in. That makes 8 plus 3 dewberries. Moved 4 heart of golds in. Planning on 2 not making it so I have more ready. We'll see.

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Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/21 05:04 AM

Just finished with almost half of my new container garden. Trying to keep it low budget.

This year I chose the cheap 18 gallon plastic totes from Chit-Mart, $5/each. If I can get a few seasons out of them before the Sun kills them, then good.

I put 2 tomato or two pepper plants per each 18 gallon container full of Miracle Grow potting soil, because that brand has worked well for me in the past.

Also planted lots of companion seeds especially with the maters. Will see what happens. Basil, Chives, Dill, Marigolds gonna be part of the family.


Also just had a few drinks and ordered some more seeds from Pepper Joe since I killed a lot of mine. crying

I learned. up


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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/21 03:34 PM

That's going to turn out nice Skinner. Check out TX Hot and White Hot for your pepper seed needs. Two of the best guys in the industry to deal with. TX Hot also has a huge selection of tomato seeds.

https://texashotpeppers.net/
https://www.whitehotpeppers.com/
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/21 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
That's going to turn out nice Skinner. Check out TX Hot and White Hot for your pepper seed needs. Two of the best guys in the industry to deal with. TX Hot also has a huge selection of tomato seeds.

https://texashotpeppers.net/
https://www.whitehotpeppers.com/



Thanks! I'll do that.
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/21 08:46 PM

Skinner, all the deer are going to eat yer plants with those feeders bringing them in.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/21 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
Skinner, all the deer are going to eat yer plants with those feeders bringing them in.



Lol. Those are all empy.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/21 09:06 PM

They'll show up for the buffet then wander over when you don't provide them the yellow nuggets
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/21 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
They'll show up for the buffet then wander over when you don't provide them the yellow nuggets



Man don’t say that! Lol. The last time I planted a big vegetable garden here the deer wiped it out in one night, totally. Big companion garden all done by hand, all that work, gone in one night. bang
Posted By: Gary Olson

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/21 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Just finished with almost half of my new container garden. Trying to keep it low budget.

This year I chose the cheap 18 gallon plastic totes from Chit-Mart, $5/each.

When living in Plano, I had a container garden on the back porch.
Now retired, we have upgraded to 100 gal stock tanks from MFA. The ground is too far down there for tall people; bad for our knees.
The first tank has been placed, filled with rock base, and 75 gal of soil made from composted leaves, grass clippings, kitchen compost, and good dirt. Waiting for tomorrows rain and next weeks freeze to pass before planting. This could be an interesting experiment. Still need to put up fence.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/21 02:20 PM

The struggle is real for the tall ones. This world wasn’t built for us.

I don’t have deer but I plan on throwing some tomato plants out by the fence in the back. Keep them dern tree rats away from the good stuff closer to the house.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/21 02:24 PM

Got about 60 transferred to the 4” pots last night. I must say, I now have a super efficient system.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/21 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Got about 60 transferred to the 4” pots last night. I must say, I now have a super efficient system.


worthless
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/21 02:52 PM

Some of em
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Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/21 03:24 PM

Are those peppers?
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/21 03:57 PM

Very very very young ones. There are some 2-3 varieties of tomatoes in the back.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/21 04:03 PM

Not much longer and we will be ready to go outside.
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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/21 04:08 PM

Lol. Before and after at its finest.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/21 01:17 AM

Got my dirt ready! smile
Got a bunch of the seed put in too.
Will put seedlings in over next few days.
Only got 7 rows.

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But my rows are 150ft long! grin

That 'green stuff' in the middle rows is fall-Turnips that survived the -3 temps here!
They put out new leaves we're using for greens, but the bulbs now have a 'mealy' texture I won't eat, but good enough for the cows!
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/21 02:10 AM

That is a hell of a garden Sir! My Grandparent's garden in Arkansas was maybe half that size and put out a HUGE amount of vegetables.

I like that dirt.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/21 02:31 AM

Looking good oldoak !

i'm going to plant summer squash, and 2 kinds of garden beans, Italian and Bush Blue Lake 274, Burpee seeds. and go buy some 'mater plants as well.
might try watermelon too, my dad tried watermelon in another spot one year, but they i don't think they got enough sun.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/21 05:04 AM

I’m about to have more tomato plants than I can even give away.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/21 09:59 AM

https://balconygardenweb.com/milk-uses-in-the-garden/


Milk..........it does a garden good.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/21 02:30 PM

Interesting. I prolly won’t ever use it but interesting. Lol.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/21 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Interesting. I prolly won’t ever use it but interesting. Lol.


Never pour out old milk. Always use it in the garden. Diluted down to 20-30% has good benefits.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/21 06:16 PM

We never have old milk around here. Lol
Posted By: drag13honda

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/21 01:49 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by drag13honda
Y'all have any favorites on tomatoes around here? I am getting a small garden going again this year after taking a couple of years off for various reasons. I'll probably plant 2 or 3 tomato plants, one of which I already have. For the other(s) I was curious if anybody had any favorites. I will say I typically prefer a medium sized tomato as opposed to some of the huge tomatoes but am open to any suggestions y'all want to throw my way.


If you have a HEB close see if they have Tycoon. That's my personal favorite. I've been on the Roma train the past couple years growing a few different varieties of those.


What kind of roma varieties have you been growing? I think I have nailed down my selections for medium sized tomatoes but would like a couple of smaller varieties as well. Open for suggestions.

Where do y'all buy your soil from? Since I will be using more soil this year than I have in the past I am wanting to find a good source. Does a 50/50 mix of soil and compost sound about right?
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/21 05:30 AM

I thought Roma . . . . WAS a variety!

I’ll say this much, if you’re germinating from seed, this combo right here is awesome. Calloways for the Black Gold and any pet store for the coconut coir(fibers). It’ll hold water like a sponge and they’ll pop right up. What you add for the root development is on you.
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Posted By: drag13honda

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/21 06:37 AM

I normally started from seeds previous years but I was thinking about just getting some started plants this year since I'm a little late to the game, but I guess we'll see what ai decide on. That's a good tip though, if I don't use it this year I definitely will next year.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/21 07:32 PM

Shes ready...

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/21 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by Chickenman
Shes ready...

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/21 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by drag13honda
Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by drag13honda
Y'all have any favorites on tomatoes around here? I am getting a small garden going again this year after taking a couple of years off for various reasons. I'll probably plant 2 or 3 tomato plants, one of which I already have. For the other(s) I was curious if anybody had any favorites. I will say I typically prefer a medium sized tomato as opposed to some of the huge tomatoes but am open to any suggestions y'all want to throw my way.


If you have a HEB close see if they have Tycoon. That's my personal favorite. I've been on the Roma train the past couple years growing a few different varieties of those.


What kind of roma varieties have you been growing? I think I have nailed down my selections for medium sized tomatoes but would like a couple of smaller varieties as well. Open for suggestions.

Where do y'all buy your soil from? Since I will be using more soil this year than I have in the past I am wanting to find a good source. Does a 50/50 mix of soil and compost sound about right?


Viva Italia, Nano, San Marzano. Trying a Martino's this year.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/21 02:13 AM

ok, so got about half my garden planted yesterday and today.
In so far:
yesterday-
red potatoes
White potatoes
Idaho potatoes
Sweet Corn
Zucchini squash
Acorn squash
Spaghetti squash
Lima beans
Red beans
Okra
Onions
Turnips

in today:
Peas
Red leaf Lettuce
Green leaf lettuce
Kale
Spinach
Cilantro
Carrots
Mustard greens
Tomatoes - reg size

Everything was seed, except tomatoes - store-bought tray of 6 (with 1 bonus!)

so c'mon rain - we're ready!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Near future:
Bell peppers
Jalapenos
Cucumbers
small Tomatoes (Roma & cherry)
Cantaloupes
Watermelons
these 6 I'm starting from seed inside - may buy seedlings if I fail.
strawberries - storebought seedlings
and more corn in 2 weeks(staggering it this year)

Did I miss anything?? grin

Oh, I'm tired!
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/21 02:23 AM

PM me if you want any of these tomato seeds, also any Grappoli D’Inverno seeds. I have waaaay more than plenty of all of them.
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/21 02:23 AM

Sounds more like a truck garden to me. Don't think I could handle it any longer.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/21 03:03 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
PM me if you want any of these tomato seeds, also any Grappoli D’Inverno seeds. I have waaaay more than plenty of all of them.

Dang, that's quite a collection - those look great! You planting all those?

I actually have a ton of seed - been buying some every time in store, but this is the first year I actually got things ready in time (kinda).
That's why I'm planting so many different things this year - trying to use up seeds I bought - plus working from home due to Covid, I actually have a couple extra hours per day not having to commute.
Everything we planted (late) last year did great, so wanting to add variety this year, and getting stuff in on time!
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/21 05:19 AM

TCM3 and Oldoak, y’all make me jealous. Very nice.

Oldaok, yes. My son showed interest so instead of just a few, I got way too many. He’ll love it when they start flowering and producing, and check them 10 times a day. He decided he wants to make ketchup, by golly we’re gonna make ketchup! roflmao
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/21 02:21 PM

I have tomatoes growing in the bottom land. They're up, they are growing, and I got a good stand.

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Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/21 08:31 PM

Oldoak don't you think it is a little early for okra? I always heard that was one that wanted it really warm before planting
cheers
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/21 03:27 AM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
Oldoak don't you think it is a little early for okra? I always heard that was one that wanted it really warm before planting
cheers

Yeah, it could be. I planted it in April last year and they did great - maybe I’m just a bit anxious to have fresh raw okra again.
I also ended up pickleing about 24 quarts last year - came out great, throwing garlic & a couple of split fresh jalapeños in there.
I’ll re-seed if it don’t come up. On these I planted coated seeds directly in the ground - about 80-90% success last year.
Also put up about 10 quart bags of it sliced into the freezer.
Posted By: drag13honda

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/21 03:54 AM

We went to HEB today to do our grocery shopping and I took a look at their plants. I bought a celebrity, sweet 100s, and tycoon tomato plants while we were there. I know most of those had been mentioned here, so I figured I would give those a go. They also had a pickling cucumber so I picked up one of those. I've really wanted to try making my own pickles.

Now I just need to get my soil situation figured out.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/21 04:58 AM

Y’all, DON’T make me till up my whole dang back yard! My wife will kill me! roflmao
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/21 04:59 AM

I still don’t have any PM’s for ready plants, or seeds for that matter. I’m gonna stash em back for next year.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/21 03:50 PM

I started caging my tomatoes this morning. No hurry. Haste makes waste.

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/21 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Y’all, DON’T make me till up my whole dang back yard! My wife will kill me! roflmao

go till up your backyard. It'll be worth it. stir
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/21 12:46 AM

got my stuff planted today, Summer squash pic-n-pic hybrid, Italian garden beans, and regular green beans. Need to get to TSC and get my mater plants.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/21 01:09 AM

Good day in Austin today. Can’t wait to get home and plant.
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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/21 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Good day in Austin today. Can’t wait to get home and plant.
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up
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/21 01:34 AM

Those look ready to plant.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/21 02:32 AM

Doing medium rare this year. 16-18oz fruit eek2

Will have to buy cherry's. I forgot to buy any seeds.
Posted By: reeltexan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/21 02:37 AM


Planted Celebrities for slicing and Romas for hot sauce.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/21 02:45 AM

I slice Roma’s. bolt
Posted By: topwater13

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/21 12:47 PM

Plant early and Plan to cover. The North Texas way.

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Early girl, better boy, roma and a few others. Still haven’t found one the handles the heat.....most of these will be gone by July.
I also have straightneck squash, anaheim, jalapeños, and hot Hungarian wax peppers going.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/21 01:49 PM

A cold front is in my forecast but the forecast is to stay above 40°.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/21 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by topwater13
Plant early and Plan to cover. The North Texas way.

Early girl, better boy, roma and a few others. Still haven’t found one the handles the heat.....most of these will be gone by July.
I also have straightneck squash, anaheim, jalapeños, and hot Hungarian wax peppers going.


They will all stop setting fruit once extreme temps hit.
I keep mine alive (drip irrigation + screen shades) - and once it cools down, I get an immediate fall crop, on the same plants.
They'll look 'skraggly' in August, but pop back quick.
We've even picked large green ones in November (1st frost), wrapped, and unwrapped 'vine-ripe' all the way thru past New-Years!
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/21 08:17 PM

Trying to decide on a location for my containers. Do tomatoes need shade from the afternoon sun?
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/21 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by topwater13
Plant early and Plan to cover. The North Texas way.

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Early girl, better boy, roma and a few others. Still haven’t found one the handles the heat.....most of these will be gone by July.
I also have straightneck squash, anaheim, jalapeños, and hot Hungarian wax peppers going.

Nice cages!
Posted By: topwater13

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/21 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by topwater13
Plant early and Plan to cover. The North Texas way.

Early girl, better boy, roma and a few others. Still haven’t found one the handles the heat.....most of these will be gone by July.
I also have straightneck squash, anaheim, jalapeños, and hot Hungarian wax peppers going.


They will all stop setting fruit once extreme temps hit.
I keep mine alive (drip irrigation + screen shades) - and once it cools down, I get an immediate fall crop, on the same plants.
They'll look 'skraggly' in August, but pop back quick.
We've even picked large green ones in November (1st frost), wrapped, and unwrapped 'vine-ripe' all the way thru past New-Years!

Yes. I don’t have any shades up. I may move the containers to the east side of the building if I can ever get it built. Once they start to brown I can’t stand to look at them and usually pull them.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/21 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Trying to decide on a location for my containers. Do tomatoes need shade from the afternoon sun?


Not really - they need as many hours of sunlight you can give them for good fruit production.

Only when temps go over 100 (and nights stay above 80) will shade 'maybe' help, but they still won't fruit then.

Only thing that will 'hurt' them is frost.

Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/21 03:11 AM

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Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/21 03:32 AM

That boy of yours makes me smile.

Good times ahead.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/21 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
That boy of yours makes me smile.

Good times ahead.


Thank ya kindly sir! We sure do love him!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/21 09:00 PM

Some of those are ready to go into the ground. Pull a Chickenman and get er done.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/21 02:23 AM

I gotta get the ground ready first!!
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/21 02:35 AM

Went to TSC and got some tomator plants, They didn't have any beefsteak, mostly Better boy and a one i haven't heard of, 'Early Girl'.
and some watermelon seeds food
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/21 09:13 PM

Early Girl is a good one! cheers
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/21 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
Early Girl is a good one! cheers


Better get them in the ground. Mild weather all next week.
Posted By: spacejunkie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/21 09:56 PM

Put one Early Girl in today and now glad I got it. Also have a couple of Celebrity and wondering how they rate with you guys.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/21 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by spacejunkie
Put one Early Girl in today and now glad I got it. Also have a couple of Celebrity and wondering how they rate with you guys.



Celebrity's do great around here, I've got some growing now. One of the best maters IMO.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/21 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by spacejunkie
Put one Early Girl in today and now glad I got it. Also have a couple of Celebrity and wondering how they rate with you guys.



Celebrity's do great around here, I've got some growing now. One of the best maters IMO.


Nailed it. I've been planting them for years.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/21 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by spacejunkie
Put one Early Girl in today and now glad I got it. Also have a couple of Celebrity and wondering how they rate with you guys.



Celebrity's do great around here, I've got some growing now. One of the best maters IMO.


Nailed it. I've been planting them for years.



So far I've also been impressed with the growth rate of these Brandi Wine Tomatoes as well. We'll see.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/21 10:52 PM

Are tomatoes in line with peppers when it comes to nitrogen for canopy growth? Then a fert with lower N, and raise the P/K when it starts to flower?
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/21 01:29 PM

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i want it to warm up and stay warmed up....
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/21 01:48 PM

Yep, a wee bit chilly this morning
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/21 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
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i want it to warm up and stay warmed up....

It was 35° at our place this morning, my 4Runner that is parked outside was completely covered with ice. Had a heavy dew on the grass so I guess the ride was covered with it and it was cold enough to freeze. My thermometer is on top of my shop, so I guess the ground temp is several degrees colder.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/21 02:23 PM

Time stood still. I'm still waiting.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/21 02:41 PM

38° here this morning. My new plants spent the night on the back porch last night. Hope to have them in containers this weekend.
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/21 02:48 PM

There is a big difference between a light frost and a killing frost.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/21 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by spacejunkie
Put one Early Girl in today and now glad I got it. Also have a couple of Celebrity and wondering how they rate with you guys.



Celebrity's do great around here, I've got some growing now. One of the best maters IMO.

x2!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/21 05:07 PM

I've planter Celebtries and Better Boys for years. They produced the same. Don't be too disappointed if you can't find the Celebtries.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/21 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
I've planter Celebtries and Better Boys for years. They produced the same. Don't be too disappointed if you can't find the Celebtries.


I just saw some at Home Depot.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/21 08:30 PM

Got the containers filled and planted. They are too crowded, but I think I’ll transplant if they all make it for a couple weeks. Did plant one jalapeño by itself. Put them closer to the house this year, maybe won’t get the dang tomatoe worms. No room for cages, will get some stakes.
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/21 08:53 PM

Looks just fine.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/21 09:09 PM

I like the Turkey fryer base!
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/20/21 10:20 PM

The Radio Flyer wagon is about 30 years old. Finally found a good use for it, mobile garden. As the sun position moves, I can adjust for sunlight.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/21 02:17 AM

Cumari do Para’s waking up to this ugly world. I’m dammed interested in what these are like. They’re somewhat rare Brazilian pepper. A dude I worked with a few weeks now is Brazilian. He swears by them so I had to order some seeds based on the online description. They go from 50K-300K on the scovilles.
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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/21 02:20 AM

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TASTE: In the same family as Scotch Bonnets, and Habaneros, the Cumari has a really nice, sweet flavor but packs a lot of heat.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/21 01:51 PM

Most everything is planted in this one. Doing peas and beans in another spot later I hope.

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/21 02:00 PM

Why is there a pulpit in that garden?
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/21 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Why is there a pulpit in that garden?

Never know when you'll need a come to Jesus meeting.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/21 03:38 PM

What’s her name?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/21 09:18 PM

Peas and beans are in. Trial runs. Not looking for a good crop.

Also wondering how Cantaloupes will do in this spot. Its more sandy.

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/21 09:20 PM

Looks great.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/21 01:03 AM

I concur. And don’t melons like sandy?
Posted By: Biscuit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/21 01:06 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Originally Posted by Payne
Why is there a pulpit in that garden?

Never know when you'll need a come to Jesus meeting.


Nice
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/21 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
I concur. And don’t melons like sandy?



Yes, and I like sandy melons. Especially at the beach.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/21 04:07 AM

Don’t know any Sandy’s man or I’d hook you up! roflmao
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/21 09:24 PM

Got at least a good inch of rain already - pretty excited because it's great timing for me.
Got row crops planted in garden already and potatoes & onions were already coming up, and big tomatoes planted & caged.
Plus peaches in full bloom, and blackberries are 25% leaved out, and fertilized both just in time.
Even got a 'spring plot' out back already came up and got a couple bags of fertilizer on it in time for rain. smile
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/21 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Got at least a good inch of rain already - pretty excited because it's great timing for me.
Got row crops planted in garden already and potatoes & onions were already coming up, and big tomatoes planted & caged.
Plus peaches in full bloom, and blackberries are 25% leaved out, and fertilized both just in time.
Even got a 'spring plot' out back already came up and got a couple bags of fertilizer on it in time for rain. smile


Spring really has sprung.
cheers
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/21 11:55 PM

Hey GUYS!!! I’m squirtin’ the FERT!!! roflmao
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/21 12:11 AM

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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/21 12:28 AM

Am I lookin’ for a doctor? If so, which area of study am I searching?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/21 12:29 AM

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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/21 01:16 AM

Squirt the fert! De fert! De fert! De fert!
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Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/21 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Squirt the fert! De fert! De fert! De fert!
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roflmao
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/21 01:56 AM

Thank you Kyle! roflmao
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/21 02:00 AM

Btw. . . . . I’m gonna definitely have just a few giveaways soon.
Pepper count
Choc hab-3
Lemon hab-5
P Dreddie-6
Chilitepin-40
Red hab-5
Dragon’s Breath-5
Ghost-12
Aji Charapita-3
Jamaican yellow-3
Orange hab-9
Jamaican Red-10
Pequin-41
Cumari do Para-at least 21 so far
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/21 02:12 PM

Pea sized hail storm and 1.1” of rain around 1:30 am. Baby tomato plants took a beating, but should be ok.
Posted By: Panhandler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/21 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Chickenman
Peas and beans are in. Trial runs. Not looking for a good crop.

Also wondering how Cantaloupes will do in this spot. Its more sandy.

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I'm looking to do something similar in my garden this year to help control weeds. Is that just regular weed paper over the soil? And straw from the feed store?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/21 07:30 PM

I use just regular weed paper on top too. This year I'm using the Scotts commercial grade. I have raised beds and use mulch on top to hold it down. Does a really good job. I get bermuda that will pop out around the edges. I use Sethoxydim - Trade name Over the top II. It's a grassy weed killer for garden use. I don't blanket spray. I just spot spray the bermuda when it comes up.
https://www.domyown.com/msds/Over-the-Top-II-Label.pdf

You can see the weed barrier that I haven't trimmed up to look a little nice yet.
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Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/24/21 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by Panhandler
Originally Posted by Chickenman
Peas and beans are in. Trial runs. Not looking for a good crop.

Also wondering how Cantaloupes will do in this spot. Its more sandy.

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I'm looking to do something similar in my garden this year to help control weeds. Is that just regular weed paper over the soil? And straw from the feed store?


I use 3' wide rolls of garden fabric for the rows but that large piece is thick. My neighbor brought over. Looked expensive.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/24/21 06:17 PM

Looks. Great to me.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/21 03:13 PM

Not today. Maybe tomorrow.

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Lookie, lookie, little bitty baby pickles.

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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/21 03:15 PM

Very cool Bill! I will say tho, you’re a fresh cucumber eater from way back.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/21 06:45 PM

How long have the mater plants been in the ground Bill?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/21 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
How long have the mater plants been in the ground Bill?


Not sure of the date. It was February a week after the freeze. I was surprised that the nursery had protected all their plants through the freeze.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/21 06:51 PM

The feed store had some bigger plants today, than what they had 10 days ago. I did get a bigger one at Lowe’s this week, but double the price. bang
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/21 06:56 PM

I couldn't find any started Sweet 100 plants at the garden centers so I grabbed a pack of the seeds,now I'm behind and scrambling to catch up. Seedlings are about 4" tall now.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/21 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by swampthang
I couldn't find any started Sweet 100 plants at the garden centers so I grabbed a pack of the seeds,now I'm behind and scrambling to catch up. Seedlings are about 4" tall now.



It has been my experience that they will hurry up to catch up.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/21 07:24 PM

Rain - looks like I got about 3" here last night! Pretty major, because ground was mostly already saturated.
Some of the 'trenches' in my garden have water standing even now at noon - as do low spots all over my property.
Seedlings look good though - they are about 6" higher in their raised beds, and not standing in water.
Got corn and beans sprouting thru the surface now too!

My two 'seasonal' tanks are now full (were only half-full yesterday).
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/21 08:07 PM

My yard is spongy as a mofo. I need a few weeks of dry to determine if it’s the dirt or if I have THAT bad of a layer of thatch. I’m kinda thinking it’s a combo of both.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/21 08:08 PM

Found a fix for my expensive planter bucket problem. “Come after 4, boss goes home. I’ll give you all you can take”

That man is getting a few plants from me, that’s for sure.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/21 12:51 PM

Well, at least got 52 3gal pots. I’m going back to meet with my buddy soon. Gonna need big dogs soon.
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/21 01:48 PM

Planting date for my tomatoes was February 24, cost $15. 92, including a five pound bag of 13-13-13.

My debit card is my calendar.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/21 03:07 PM

Finally. It is a start.

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/21 09:37 PM

Another neighbor just tilled up a row in my garden. Made my day.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/21 12:03 PM

Perfect timing. Rain on the way.
Posted By: soooo

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/21 01:12 PM

https://youtu.be/pWib32GHmWs
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/21 06:01 PM

I'm tickled to death my young apple tree has blossoms on it for the first time.It's about 5 years old and 8 feet tall. Time to resume my jihad on the local squirrel population. grin If not I'm sure they'll beat me to those tasty orbs.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/21 11:54 AM

I had a little cool down last night. Fingers crossed for the gardeners up around .Amarillo. Any reports?
Posted By: Jamoke

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/21 02:16 PM

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Garden is completely in. Asparagus giving 1/2 lb per Day for the past 4 days. Seed rows are in and everything seems to be growing nicely. Got a few pepper and tomato flowers.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/21 02:24 PM

Can't grow asparagus in my area.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/21 10:59 PM

Honestly never thought about growing asparagus. That’s awesome! Love the stuff!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/21 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Honestly never thought about growing asparagus. That’s awesome! Love the stuff!


You will never know until you try it. You are located about half way between my sister and me. She has great success. It is somewhat like sourdough. Its the gift that keeps on giving.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/21 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Can't grow asparagus in my area.



I am told that there are some types of asparagus that will grow in our warm climates, have no personal experience though. Yet.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/21 11:17 PM

My green beans are off to the races, italian green beans are sprouting as well as the squash.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/21 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
My green beans are off to the races, italian green beans are sprouting as well as the squash.


Don't cook those fresh green beans to make them taste like they came out of a can. Fast oil or steam for only a few. Minutest. Drain and sautéed in butter, season with salt and lemon.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/21 02:15 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by TCM3
My green beans are off to the races, italian green beans are sprouting as well as the squash.


Don't cook those fresh green beans to make them taste like they came out of a can. Fast oil or steam for only a few. Minutest. Drain and sautéed in butter, season with salt and lemon.


Dang that sounds like a lot of work for green beans!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/21 02:24 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by TCM3
My green beans are off to the races, italian green beans are sprouting as well as the squash.


Don't cook those fresh green beans to make them taste like they came out of a can. Fast oil or steam for only a few. Minutest. Drain and sautéed in butter, season with salt and lemon.


Dang that sounds like a lot of work for green beans!


You have to pay the fiddler if you want to dance.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/21 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by Jamoke
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Garden is completely in. Asparagus giving 1/2 lb per Day for the past 4 days. Seed rows are in and everything seems to be growing nicely. Got a few pepper and tomato flowers.

Are those tomato plants at the bottom of the welded wire panels? Are they a climbing variety?
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/21 05:08 AM

Speaking of climbing variety, who wants a bunch of Grappoli D’Inverno tomato plants? I never should have planted so many.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/21 05:12 AM

It’s past time to plant all the ones I plan to keep. Wish me luck
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Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/21 06:40 AM

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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/21 07:44 AM

This one lone feller gets the special treatment. His name is Karl and he’s destined for great things, like melting insides of unsuspecting patrons of his fruit. He is of the Dragon’s Breath variety and he has a daddy who can’t wait to be united with him. I want NOOOOOO part of eating these but it’s been a real pleasure germinating, nurturing and feeding this lil badazz to be somebody in this crazy, stupid world we’re in. Bless you Karl. Go burn some boody holes with your 2.48 MILLION scovilles at your disposal. I love you. Don’t call me. I’ll call you.

Signed: Dad

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Posted By: Jamoke

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/21 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Originally Posted by Jamoke
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Garden is completely in. Asparagus giving 1/2 lb per Day for the past 4 days. Seed rows are in and everything seems to be growing nicely. Got a few pepper and tomato flowers.

Are those tomato plants at the bottom of the welded wire panels? Are they a climbing variety?


Yes those are tomatoes, I plant every other plant cherry tomato, then bigger varieties. So they will all grow together, by the end of the season, those panels will be covered in vines, various varieties, some produce all season others only at the end. My pepper plants typically grow 3-4 Ft High and also will be covered with fruits. Asparagus has been in for 8 years, lost some to the freeze, I had a mix of asparagus varieties, only the cold tolerant came back.
Posted By: Jamoke

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/21 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Speaking of climbing variety, who wants a bunch of Grappoli D’Inverno tomato plants? I never should have planted so many.


Where are you at? I live in Belton, but still work on Ft Hood after I retired as a Soldier. I would never turn down trying a new variety especially Italian!.. I am Italian and Wife is Greek. My Daughter lives 1/2 mile from DFW airport. She works for heritage Auctions and is almost finished with her Masters at Texas Woman's University. Let Me Know if we can arrange a meeting. Thanks Chris
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/21 02:09 PM

My tomatoes have stating to put on clumps.

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My first cucumbers have started to vine up and run.

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Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/21 10:37 PM

jamoke. how do you keep the grass/weeds down in the asparagus patch?
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/21 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by Jamoke
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Speaking of climbing variety, who wants a bunch of Grappoli D’Inverno tomato plants? I never should have planted so many.


Where are you at? I live in Belton, but still work on Ft Hood after I retired as a Soldier. I would never turn down trying a new variety especially Italian!.. I am Italian and Wife is Greek. My Daughter lives 1/2 mile from DFW airport. She works for heritage Auctions and is almost finished with her Masters at Texas Woman's University. Let Me Know if we can arrange a meeting. Thanks Chris


I’m about 1.5-2 miles west of DFW airport.
Posted By: Jamoke

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/21 11:32 AM

Weeds grow every year, once I am done picking the asparagus grows into a thick willowy brush about 4 feet high. End of season after it dies I mow it down. In Spring I till lightly over the top soil remove weeds by hand/rake. Then I place 3-5 inches of turkey mulch on top, never had any other issues.
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/02/21 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Jamoke
Weeds grow every year, once I am done picking the asparagus grows into a thick willowy brush about 4 feet high. End of season after it dies I mow it down. In Spring I till lightly over the top soil remove weeds by hand/rake. Then I place 3-5 inches of turkey mulch on top, never had any other issues.

Thanks
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/21 03:56 AM

Bad Start w/ Tomatoes:

So with the 6-pak of 'Jet-Star' tomatoes I bought 4 weeks ago - 3 have already 'wilted out' and the other 3 are not really thriving.
I only bought them cause store was already out of Better-boy & Celebrity that I normally get - and they were the only 6-pack variety left.
Never tried 'Jet-Star' before; don't think I ever will again... mad




So I hit the store again - and bingo, hit the jackpot!
They had my Better-boy & Celebrity, a foot tall, in 4" pots only 89c ea! laugh
And a ton of other stuff they just got in.
This cheap, I decided to go hog-wild, and also grabbed some 'extras' to add some variety in my garden - 4 kinds of cherry/small tomatoes, and 6 kinds of peppers, and some other stuff. nuts
Walked out with 19 pots for only $15.12 (they were also doing additional 10% off total purchase Saturday only)!
Now I got some more planting to do:
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/21 12:13 PM

I would rather be lucky than good. BLT sandwiches on the way. up
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/21 01:54 PM

Had a little rain yesterday morning and this morning. Right before it heats up this week. Got a few blooms on 1 mater plant it’s a container variety. The others are still thinking about blooming.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/21 02:07 PM

I can now see them from my kitchen window. This particular one happens to be a Better Boy.

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Posted By: TexasKC

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/21 06:10 PM

Bill....when did you plant your tomatoes?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/21 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by TexasKC
Bill....when did you plant your tomatoes?

Glad you asked! I have a family size vegetable garden. I now plant only one row and share two more with my neighbors.

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Posted By: Blank

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/21 09:44 PM

My Easter weekend project for the wife. Took down a 50' pine tree, moved half a county worth of dirt, built her a planter and pavers to keep her little feet dry. A bench to sit down, and enjoy her work!! We don't have mosquitos, so some solar lights on the corners to see by when she want "ambience"!!

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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/21 10:41 PM

Very nicely done sir!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/21 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Very nicely done sir!


Yep. When is planting time in Idaho?
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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/21 11:40 PM

Nice Blank! Is it all made of cedar?
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/21 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Very nicely done sir!


Yep. When is planting time in Idaho?
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Will not be this week! Lows in the 30's every night bolt
Posted By: Blank

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/21 01:07 AM

You can start stuff in the house or garage now. Most planting we wait until June 1st for our last killing frost. We will be turkey hunting and bass fishing in Arizona all May, so when we get back we will put everything in the ground. We get about 100 days total, so by Sept 15th you have to cover the gardens or lose them.

I made this all out of pressure-treated 4x4' posts, 2x6' planks, and then lined the inside with double black plastic to keep the soil off the wood. Checked on cedar or redwood, and it was outrageous!! Would have been almost $1000. $300 for this way.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/21 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by TexasKC
Bill....when did you plant your tomatoes?

Glad you asked! I have a family size vegetable garden. I now plant only one row and share two more with my neighbors.
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Looks like beautiful river-sands loam soil!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/21 01:58 PM

Stuffed bell peppers are on the way and my cucumber vines are starting to run.

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Posted By: Blank

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/21 02:49 PM

Zucchini is the fool-proof, go to for many people here. They are so hearty you almost can't kill them!! Not much better than fresh hot Zucchini bread, with butter. Yum!!

Funny story, when we were first married, I helped my wife in the garden, and I planted the zucchini. I mis-read the package instructions, and put 4-6 seeds every 6 INCHES, instead of FEET apart. Rambo could have hid out in there, and I don't think we ever did find all of them before Fall. roflmao
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/21 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Stuffed bell peppers are on the way and my cucumber vines are starting to run.

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Ever plant the red and yellow peppers?
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/21 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
This one lone feller gets the special treatment. His name is Karl and he’s destined for great things, like melting insides of unsuspecting patrons of his fruit. He is of the Dragon’s Breath variety and he has a daddy who can’t wait to be united with him. I want NOOOOOO part of eating these but it’s been a real pleasure germinating, nurturing and feeding this lil badazz to be somebody in this crazy, stupid world we’re in. Bless you Karl. Go burn some boody holes with your 2.48 MILLION scovilles at your disposal. I love you. Don’t call me. I’ll call you.

Signed: Dad

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Made me tear up, man.
crying
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/21 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Stuffed bell peppers are on the way and my cucumber vines are starting to run.

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Ever plant the red and yellow peppers?

Its the same plant,just left on the vine longer it will turn yellow and red.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/21 04:08 PM

Cucumbers will turn yellow. I had a couple that seeded and gave me late cucumbers last year in August. I am saving some of my store bought seeds for a later planting.

Most bell peppers will turn red. Several varieties will turn other colors. I have had yellow papers that started out that color.

My garden soil is not all native. I haven't added anything except 13-13-13 and ashes for several years. I live in horse country and have added composted chips and manure back in the day, as well as bank sand, plus mushroom soil..
Posted By: Blank

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/21 02:01 PM

And this is why we only GET things ready to plant in Spring time in Idaho!! Hahaha roflmao

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/21 12:15 AM

@ Payne. Maggie and Tank are doing well. They moved outside a couple days ago and are loving it. Still have work to do to their enclosure.
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Tycoon tomato will be blooming tomorrow.
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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/21 12:44 AM

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Is Tank on the bottom of the pic?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/21 01:12 AM

Lol. Yes, Tank is the bottom one. They are besties. Neither are what I would call shy. As soon as you put food out he typically comes running best he can. She's more chill and shows up when she wants and hammers down on anything you throw out. The nutgrass in there drives me insane as I can't squirt it and kill it. Supposedly they'll eat it, but have yet to see them do it.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/21 01:15 AM

Sounds like a short drive..
Posted By: Blank

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/21 01:29 AM

Really cool, looks like Maggie and Tank enjoy themselves. Every year when I hunt western Kansas in September, it is hot and the Ornate box turtles are migrating across the dirt roads where I hunt. I stop, pick each one up, and move them off the road into the grass and borrow pit along side it. They are so cool to look at, and play with. smile

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/21 01:41 AM

Great photo.
Posted By: Blank

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/21 01:51 AM

Such cool little guys. Every one is unique and different!!

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Posted By: GNTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/21 01:51 AM

Originally Posted by Blank
Zucchini is the fool-proof, go to for many people here. They are so hearty you almost can't kill them!!!


You must not have squash vine borers where you are. They are a major issue here in north Texas and many other areas.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/21 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by GNTX
Originally Posted by Blank
Zucchini is the fool-proof, go to for many people here. They are so hearty you almost can't kill them!!!


You must not have squash vine borers where you are. They are a major issue here in north Texas and many other areas.


I gave up.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/21 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
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roflmao Just released a turtle.....

Though I don't believe I'd release a Softshell.

I like turtle soup.
Posted By: Blank

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/21 02:51 AM

We really have very few pests to worry about. Squirrels and birds love the strawberries. You might have to put a net around plum trees for the birds. I’ve never seen anything bother a zuc, squash, or pumpkin. Our spaghetti squash are amazing, and we eat them all year. I’m hoping for a successful jalepeno plant this year!
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/21 03:56 AM

Well i have some more planting to do.
My brother co-leases some property from an elderly woman and runs cows on it. She sent home Tomato plants, pepper plants and a few squash plants for me for my birthday up

The green beans i planted are growing great. The Italian green beans and squash aren't as enthusiastic.
Perhaps its still a bit cool for the squash....?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/21 12:05 PM

Your lucky day. The weather is perfect. cheers
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/21 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Your lucky day. The weather is perfect. cheers

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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/21 11:31 PM

It took me a minute to figure things out, along with Derek telling me I suck at getmination but by golly, I’m transplanting peppers now and they got legs for days! In a tiny lil 4” pot, I have one that has a root a foot long. I had to wrap it around the 3gal pot before adding soil. Thanks Derek for kickin’ me in the keester and showing me the way buddy!
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/21 11:57 PM

You did fine. cheers
Posted By: Blank

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/21 12:53 AM

Too funny not to share!!!

The guy I was meeting for an ammo trade was a little bit late for our meeting. When he got there he had to share his story from the morning. They live out in the country, and are backed up to an ag field. Seems the new neighbors (from California) called 911 to get the police out to tell the farmer he had to shut down his center pivot irrigation. Seems it is a little too loud for them, and they don't get up that early in the morning!!!

We have lost the common sense war, and the retarded are winning!!!!!!!!!! roflmao
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/21 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by Blank
Too funny not to share!!!

The guy I was meeting for an ammo trade was a little bit late for our meeting. When he got there he had to share his story from the morning. They live out in the country, and are backed up to an ag field. Seems the new neighbors (from California) called 911 to get the police out to tell the farmer he had to shut down his center pivot irrigation. Seems it is a little too loud for them, and they don't get up that early in the morning!!!

We have lost the common sense war, and the retarded are winning!!!!!!!!!! roflmao


banana
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/21 01:54 AM

They called the freakin police for that. Wow
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/21 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by Blank
Too funny not to share!!!

The guy I was meeting for an ammo trade was a little bit late for our meeting. When he got there he had to share his story from the morning. They live out in the country, and are backed up to an ag field. Seems the new neighbors (from California) called 911 to get the police out to tell the farmer he had to shut down his center pivot irrigation. Seems it is a little too loud for them, and they don't get up that early in the morning!!!

We have lost the common sense war, and the retarded are winning!!!!!!!!!! roflmao



Wow.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/21 02:04 AM

My garden's coming along, tomatoes/peppers/herbs doing well. Have a dozen cow horn okra plants and more peppers starting to sprout. I also purchased and released 3,000 lady bugs into the garden this evening, hope they do well.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/21 02:05 AM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by Blank
Too funny not to share!!!

The guy I was meeting for an ammo trade was a little bit late for our meeting. When he got there he had to share his story from the morning. They live out in the country, and are backed up to an ag field. Seems the new neighbors (from California) called 911 to get the police out to tell the farmer he had to shut down his center pivot irrigation. Seems it is a little too loud for them, and they don't get up that early in the morning!!!

We have lost the common sense war, and the retarded are winning!!!!!!!!!! roflmao



Wow.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/21 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
My garden's coming along, tomatoes/peppers/herbs doing well. Have a dozen cow horn okra plants and more peppers starting to sprout. I also purchased and released 3,000 lady bugs into the garden this evening, hope they do well.


Nice. Most of mine coming along nicely as well.
We have tons of ladybugs - though I am in rural area.
We used to have many thousands of them 'overwinter' in gap behind brick facia before I sealed up gaps on top better.
Still have tons - prolly because I let front 20 acres hay field flower up in spring - I only bother to get 1 hay cutting per year.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/21 12:08 AM

Update on the main garden. One squash is flowering. Lost two squash randomly. Too tired to walk to the other two gardens. sleep

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/21 12:33 AM

Your garden looks great
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/21 01:09 AM

Any tips on growing peppers.. the ones i got are serrano peppers.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/21 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Any tips on growing peppers.. the ones i got are serrano peppers.


I plant mine the same way I plant my bell peppers, which is similar to the way I plant my tomatoes, except closer and not as deep. They are easy to grow.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/21 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Any tips on growing peppers.. the ones i got are serrano peppers.


Nothing special to them. Besides tabasco, serrano is probably the highest yielding pepper I grow.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/21 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Any tips on growing peppers.. the ones i got are serrano peppers.

They like lotsa sun, and make sure soil drains well.
Get you at least 1 jalapeno and 1 or 2 bell pepper too - they are easy to grow and put out tons of fruit till it freezes if all is well.
They can get heavy with fruit so be prepared to stake them as they get larger.

Excess fruit stores easy in freezer/freezer bags chopped up, for stews, gumbo, chili, etc.
Use gloves when slicing up a large batch of hot peppers - ask me how know!
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/21 05:56 PM

How do you know? roflmao
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/21 06:46 PM

Ate my first ripe tomato yesterday. Garden is looking better than any previous year before.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/21 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
Ate my first ripe tomato yesterday. Garden is looking better than any previous year before.



I hate you.
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/21 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
Ate my first ripe tomato yesterday. Garden is looking better than any previous year before.



I hate you.


Don't hate the player, hate the game.

I had 3 tomato plants going in grow bags before it was safe to plant outside. Then the great freeze of '21 came and I didn't know how they would do with it being that cold inside the house but they survived. After it passed and seemed safe, I put them in the garden. I figured I would try and get an early start this way and it has worked out so far. Got a batch about to turn red, YUM.

Actually, I will be doing this for now on. Get em big early and transplant them.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/21 08:02 PM

Well I released 3,000 lady bugs into my container garden, and it looks like maybe 6 or 8 stayed around. bang
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/21 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Well I released 3,000 lady bugs into my container garden, and it looks like maybe 6 or 8 stayed around. bang


What is that suppose to do?
Posted By: Walkabout

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/21 08:06 PM

Feed the birds.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/21 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
Originally Posted by skinnerback
Well I released 3,000 lady bugs into my container garden, and it looks like maybe 6 or 8 stayed around. bang


What is that suppose to do?



They are beneficial predators. I've had hell with aphids in the past, and they eat aphids and other bad bugs. Trying to stay away from pesticides.
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/21 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
Originally Posted by skinnerback
Well I released 3,000 lady bugs into my container garden, and it looks like maybe 6 or 8 stayed around. bang


What is that suppose to do?



They are beneficial predators. I've had hell with aphids in the past, and they eat aphids and other bad bugs. Trying to stay away from pesticides.


Good to know. I just checked on my plants and noticed a lady bug crawling around on a pepper plant.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/21 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
Originally Posted by skinnerback
Well I released 3,000 lady bugs into my container garden, and it looks like maybe 6 or 8 stayed around. bang


What is that suppose to do?



They are beneficial predators. I've had hell with aphids in the past, and they eat aphids and other bad bugs. Trying to stay away from pesticides.


Good to know. I just checked on my plants and noticed a lady bug crawling around on a pepper plant.



That's good. I know that if they don't have food they will move on, but dang that was fast lol. Hope some of them come back.

Tomato plants are like shrimp here, everything likes to eat them. Have had hell with bugs (really hate aphids/stink bugs/ & tomato worms), deer, pocket gophers & moles (eat the roots off), squirrels, coons, and birds. Trying things a little different this year.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/21 09:53 PM

Sounds like you should chain a dog to each one! Dang!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/21 10:09 PM

How big are your plants Skinner? You would have better luck when some aphids are around. They'llprobably be back when the aphids come. If you want to have some fun get a couple of preying mantis eggs. They'll eat alot of aphids plus you'll get to watch them fight.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/21 10:23 PM

Last week, apparently we had a whole mess of baby praying mantises on the ceiling in my youngest son’s room. The wife made me dispose of them and it broke my heart. Musta been 12 of them
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/21 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
How do you know? roflmao

yeah, my fingers burned like hell for like 2 hours, from slicing& de-seeding like 5# of jalapenos flame
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/21 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Last week, apparently we had a whole mess of baby praying mantises on the ceiling in my youngest son’s room. The wife made me dispose of them and it broke my heart. Musta been 12 of them


Should of waited, would have ended up with the strongest one to put in your garden....
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/21 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Last week, apparently we had a whole mess of baby praying mantises on the ceiling in my youngest son’s room. The wife made me dispose of them and it broke my heart. Musta been 12 of them


Should of waited, would have ended up with the strongest one to put in your garden....


By then the wife was mortified for her baby’s safety. Believe me, I’m with ya.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/21 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Originally Posted by Payne
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Last week, apparently we had a whole mess of baby praying mantises on the ceiling in my youngest son’s room. The wife made me dispose of them and it broke my heart. Musta been 12 of them


Should of waited, would have ended up with the strongest one to put in your garden....


By then the wife was mortified for her baby’s safety. Believe me, I’m with ya.

i bet they were praying hard.... roflmao
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/21 12:27 AM

Did you kill them?
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/21 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
How big are your plants Skinner? You would have better luck when some aphids are around. They'llprobably be back when the aphids come. If you want to have some fun get a couple of preying mantis eggs. They'll eat alot of aphids plus you'll get to watch them fight.



Here are a few pics, almost time to spread them out & give them a little more space. My tomatoes are coming along well and starting to bud now. I almost decided to start pulling all of the blooms off and fertilize to encourage more plant growth before they start producing, but decided to leave them be. They are growing pretty well. I'll probably go ahead and fertilize them anyway this weekend.

We have lady bugs & mantis' here that come and go, but I was hoping to establish good numbers of them in the garden. I hope they do come back when the aphids come. Man I looked at mantis eggs on-line, and those suckers ain't cheap LOL. They are voracious eaters and cool to watch though! I also have a VERY high population of lizards here (Green & Brown Anoles, Geckos, Texas Spiny Lizards, some other kind of lizard I need to identify), and lots of tree frogs & toads. Was thinking the lizards & frogs would put a hurtin' on my good bugs, but that's all part of it I guess. I also have Marigolds, dill, chives, and basil planted with the maters.

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Have 4 more tomato plants to transplant and that will give me 20. Need to transplant some of these peppers too. Man, first year growing Black Jalapenos. These things are getting after it. The plants are already twice the size of my Regular Jalapenos.
Have another batch of peppers sprouting right now that will join the party soon, along with some okra.
I am tempted daily to chop up a couple of rows in the ground for some sweet corn......

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The tomatoes have been getting beat up pretty bad by the wind, that's why there's some leaf damage.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/21 12:32 AM

tomatoes and mature dill don't like each other, stunts the tomatoes growth. The dill is great for the preying mantis though.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/21 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
tomatoes and mature dill don't like each other, stunts the tomatoes growth. The dill is great for the preying mantis though.



Aw hell, didn't know that. I'll pull it all out then and plant more in their own containers around the perimeter.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/21 12:36 AM

Alright whoever’s close to Bedford, I have numerous tomatoes started and doing well. It’ll break my heart to toss em so let me know if you want any. 1)-beefsteak, 2)Jubilee, 3)-Sweet Chelsea, 4)-VR Moscow(these are gonna be monsters), 5)-Gardener’s Delight, 6)-Ace55(these are 2X the size of the other plants already, 7)-1 or 2 cherry, 8)-1or 2 Roma, 9)-Delicious and 10)-Calypso.

PM me. Otherwise I need to start diverting my focus elsewhere very soon.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/21 12:38 AM

they do well together when the dill is young it's the old stuff that jacks with it

if you have plenty of seeds I'd yank it and replant if not yank it before it matures
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/21 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by Payne
tomatoes and mature dill don't like each other, stunts the tomatoes growth. The dill is great for the preying mantis though.



Aw hell, didn't know that. I'll pull it all out then and plant more in their own containers around the perimeter.


Well crud. I have dill growing in my herb planter too
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/21 12:43 AM

BF, unless you're trying to hold on to the pots. You'd have them gone in a hurry at a tsc/wm parking lot.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/21 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
they do well together when the dill is young it's the old stuff that jacks with it

if you have plenty of seeds I'd yank it and replant if not yank it before it matures




Roger that. I'm not growing cukes or making pickles this year. The only reason I planted it was because I read that it helps to attract beneficial predator bugs. I'll pull it out.

Man I just watered my little garden and just since last night, some kind of bug has wiped out most of my basil and chives. Here we go..........
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/21 01:06 AM

take up gardening it will relax you they said...........................................................................
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/21 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
take up gardening it will relax you they said...........................................................................



roflmao clap
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/21 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by Payne
they do well together when the dill is young it's the old stuff that jacks with it

if you have plenty of seeds I'd yank it and replant if not yank it before it matures





Man I just watered my little garden and just since last night, some kind of bug has wiped out most of my basil and chives. Here we go..........



Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/21 01:13 AM

I plant so much basil they can't eat it all, does wonders for the taste of tomatoes

marigolds are my number one companion plant though
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/21 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by Payne
they do well together when the dill is young it's the old stuff that jacks with it

if you have plenty of seeds I'd yank it and replant if not yank it before it matures





Man I just watered my little garden and just since last night, some kind of bug has wiped out most of my basil and chives. Here we go..........






clap
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/21 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
I plant so much basil they can't eat it all, does wonders for the taste of tomatoes

marigolds are my number one companion plant though



Yes Sir, I'm jerking the dill and planting more marigolds and basil tomorrow after I get some deer heads boiling.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/21 01:16 AM

That didn't sound right.....
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/21 01:21 AM

I'm not judging, Oxner might...
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/21 01:41 AM

Boil away boss man. Do yo thang
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/10/21 01:42 AM

roflmao
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/21 03:03 AM

Looky what I found today! Me and ol Chelsea are gonna get along juuuust fine
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Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/21 03:20 AM

Looking good Froggy.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/21 12:03 PM

I would take off the bottom two branches before putting them in the ground.
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/21 01:35 PM

^^^^Plant looks a little small to be setting fruit. I'd pinch those blossoms off,there'll be plenty more coming later.But hey,that's just me.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/21 02:33 PM

Agree with both of ya. I’ve still got a bunch in the 4” y fer the lights. Trying to transplant what I want and give away the rest. Actually found a guy up there street who said he wanted a few. He’s gonna get a lot. lol
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/21 02:56 PM

You real what you sow. I gave up on squash several years ago when I gave part of it to my neighbor. I hope he has better luck than I did.

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Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/21 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by swampthang
^^^^Plant looks a little small to be setting fruit. I'd pinch those blossoms off,there'll be plenty more coming later.But hey,that's just me.

x2 - those roots will be bunched up in bottom of that tiny pot - not spread out enough yet to support growth/fruit.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/21 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by swampthang
^^^^Plant looks a little small to be setting fruit. I'd pinch those blossoms off,there'll be plenty more coming later.But hey,that's just me.

x2 - those roots will be bunched up in bottom of that tiny pot - not spread out enough yet to support growth/fruit.




Originally Posted by bill oxner
You real what you sow. I gave up on squash several years ago when I gave part of it to my neighbor. I hope he has better luck than I did.
Nice - my family loves fresh grilled squash / zucchini - running late here, early planting hasn't/didn't come up (yet)too early or bad seed?. gonna have to try again
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/21 05:04 PM

Jerry is on a walker. We share a tiler. He leans against it to till. Take a look at the Bermuda grass around the plant. Its not much but its the best he can do. He is retired military.
Posted By: BigPig

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/21 11:10 PM

Anybody growing squash or zucchini on a trellis instead of letting it run on the ground?
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/21 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by BigPig
Anybody growing squash or zucchini on a trellis instead of letting it run on the ground?

I've never grown either that vined.
Posted By: BigPig

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/21 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by BigPig
Anybody growing squash or zucchini on a trellis instead of letting it run on the ground?

I've never grown either that vined.


Maybe I’m mistaken, but I seem to remember my Grandad’s squash plants running along the ground and covering half the garden.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/21 03:44 PM

I put cucumbers vines on trellises.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/21 04:54 PM

Burn baby burn. That should give me enough wood
ash for all the vegetable gardens in Fort Bend county.


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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/21 05:03 PM

So the 2 5gal buckets of ashes I pulled from the fireplace after the big freeze . . . . I should use that with the plants?
Well kiss my grits!!! I poured them behind the barn and have plenty still
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/21 05:23 PM

I use a big hand full along with a hand full of 13-13-13 in each hill. I havent had a single blossom end rot since I started.

You might have some luck with Epson Salts.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/21 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
So the 2 5gal buckets of ashes I pulled from the fireplace after the big freeze . . . . I should use that with the plants?
Well kiss my grits!!! I poured them behind the barn and have plenty still


Tread lightly with ash. It's known as a liming agent. Meaning it raises your soil Ph. DFW areas to the south soils are typically at a soil Ph of 7+. already. You don't want to increase that. Granted we're all using potting mixes, compost, peat moss(which is acidic) etc. So you could be at a very well balanced Ph of 6-6.5 - Why would you want to raise that? Now if you're using a handful per mound like Bill is talking about he does, no biggie at all. It can be a good thing. That's not enough to move the Ph meter. It's got highly available potassium and other mircos. I'm talking about saving them all winter and just dumping pounds and pounds of it in your garden. That can do more harm than good. Everything can be good in moderation. up
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/21 11:32 PM

Derek, let’s be real here sir. You know I ain’t droppin’ anything without your say so!
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/21 05:11 PM

Gonna make this right. I’ve felt bad ever since last week
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Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/21 05:22 PM

Nice. What'd that cost you?
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/21 05:50 PM

$11 from Russel Feed
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/21 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
$11 from Russel Feed



Wow, that's a lot cheaper than what I found on-line.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/21 05:53 PM

Obviously already have a mature one around there somewhere but I like seeing them, lizards, frogs etc. got numerous types of lizards and geckos, had some frogs but it’s been a while. Ladybugs come and go.

What specifically targets skeeter hawks? I’ll load up
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/21 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
What specifically targets skeeter hawks? I’ll load up



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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/21 07:01 PM

That a zapper?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/21 07:04 PM

yep, I wouldn't use it since it's indiscriminate but I don't know of any crane fly predators.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/21 07:12 PM

That’s what I was thinking too. It would zap everything.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/21 07:16 PM

They’re harmless, other than a slight irritating while I’m in the garage
Posted By: John2

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/21 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by BigPig
Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by BigPig
Anybody growing squash or zucchini on a trellis instead of letting it run on the ground?

I've never grown either that vined.


Maybe I’m mistaken, but I seem to remember my Grandad’s squash plants running along the ground and covering half the garden.


Where I worked we had hog wire strung with T posts on each end and grew zucchuni and yellow squash on it.Anything that vined we had it up off the ground.One year at home I put cantaloupes on hog wire off the ground and when they got ripe they fell off the vine.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/21 12:07 AM

My grandpa’s squash was a one central, sprawling plant. The zukes and cucumbers would vine out
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/21 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
My grandpa’s squash was a one central, sprawling plant. The zukes and cucumbers would vine out



Same here!!!! I am now getting a little rain. It not much but it is enough to get the moister to meet.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/21 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
My grandpa’s squash was a one central, sprawling plant. The zukes and cucumbers would vine out



Same here!!!! I am now getting a little rain. It not much but it is enough to get the moister to meet.

Sprinkling too here, Bill.
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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/21 01:16 AM

We got popped at 4AM here today. Gonna be a few spotty storms for the next few days around here
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/21 01:18 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
We got popped at 4AM here today. Gonna be a few spotty storms for the next few days around here

My garden ought to be happy
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/21 01:32 AM

60 to 70% for the remainder of the week. cheers
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/21 02:41 PM

Happy National Gardening day

Go plant something
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/14/21 08:06 PM

Noticed some tunnels inched closer today..... i wonder what it could be.......

Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/21 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
We got popped at 4AM here today. Gonna be a few spotty storms for the next few days around here

My garden ought to be happy

Yeah, we got a nice rain last nite here up north. Twas starting to get a bit dry. I don't mind watering garden(I drip irrigate all summer), but this natural rainwater really kicks things off nicely.
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/21 04:52 PM

I decided to stake my tomato plants rather than using cages. Any of you do this?
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/21 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
I decided to stake my tomato plants rather than using cages. Any of you do this?

I've always done that. 3/4" alum conduit cut into 6 ft pieces works fine.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/21 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by TCM3
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
We got popped at 4AM here today. Gonna be a few spotty storms for the next few days around here

My garden ought to be happy

Yeah, we got a nice rain last nite here up north. Twas starting to get a bit dry. I don't mind watering garden(I drip irrigate all summer), but this natural rainwater really kicks things off nicely.

Yessir it does
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/21 09:11 PM

I not sure it is better for the garden but it sure put a smile on my face. cheers
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/21 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
I decided to stake my tomato plants rather than using cages. Any of you do this?

I think I will have to this year - I don't have enough cages for the plants that I have put in the ground this year.
I've mostly been using some 30 year old cages my father made/used - 2' dia x 4' tall with 6" x 6" weave - they are on their last legs after all these years, but work great.

Gonna need 'em - looks like half-inch of rain last night, and about another inch in last couple of hours.

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/21 09:58 PM

My cages are old and ugly but it is the best I can do.

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/21 01:52 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Payne you gotta get back on that pony and replant. You have a very long growing season down there. LFG! This is the year of Payne!


Best I can do this year

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Two beefsteaks I germinated, two green bells a neighbor gave me, and a half tub of asparagus I started. Marigolds on the borders of the tubs, nasturtiums & zinnias in the pots. A pecan tree and some aloe vera also.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/21 03:29 AM

Payne, are you in need of some peppers/maters? Don’t make me drive down there!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/21 03:39 AM

roflmaoI appreciate the offer but I'm going with a minimalist setup this year.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/21 05:29 AM

Me too, so I need y’all to take up all this slack roflmao
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/21 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
Originally Posted by Derek
Payne you gotta get back on that pony and replant. You have a very long growing season down there. LFG! This is the year of Payne!


Best I can do this year

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Two beefsteaks I germinated, two green bells a neighbor gave me, and a half tub of asparagus I started. Marigolds on the borders of the tubs, nasturtiums & zinnias in the pots. A pecan tree and some aloe vera also.


Beats the snot out of going hungry.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/21 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Originally Posted by Derek
Payne you gotta get back on that pony and replant. You have a very long growing season down there. LFG! This is the year of Payne!


Best I can do this year

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Two beefsteaks I germinated, two green bells a neighbor gave me, and a half tub of asparagus I started. Marigolds on the borders of the tubs, nasturtiums & zinnias in the pots. A pecan tree and some aloe vera also.


up
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/21 01:25 PM

Don't sass me Derek
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/21 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Don't sass me Derek


Lol. I would never do such a thing! I dumped last years tomato plant on the side of the house and had some wild tomatoes popped up so I caged them. They only get like 3-4 hours at best of morning sun so we'll see how they do. I know you're not into hot peppers. But this Big Black Mama pepper plant is going to be legit.
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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/21 03:18 PM

Where's the turtle cam? If you need technical support pm KY.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/21 03:35 PM

That thing has awesome color to it Derek!
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/21 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Where's the turtle cam? If you need technical support pm KY.


Wonder if there is a decent "cheap" live feed setup. Pretty sure my internet reaches out there.
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/21 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Payne
Where's the turtle cam? If you need technical support pm KY.


Wonder if there is a decent "cheap" live feed setup. Pretty sure my internet reaches out there.


Try this setup on both of them

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/21 09:49 PM

a few small sprinkles '[Linked Image]
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/21 11:14 PM

I had a little warm-up.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/21 11:50 PM

We’ve had drizzle since last night. Temps down to upper 40’s Sunday morning.
My container maters are gonna be pretty crowed. Should I transplant to relieve crowding? What happens if they are too close to each other?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/21 11:56 PM

Funny you ask. I broke a sucker off one of my Better Boys and stuck it in the ground a few. Inches away. It took root. Looks as if we will both find out if you do joy move yours.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/21 01:42 AM

My plants are coming along. The kids & I just transplanted some more peppers (out of pic). Plenty more to come.

We have fun in the Garden together, container garden or not.

Thank you Lord for the gift of life.


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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/21 01:55 AM

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/21 01:56 AM

Damn, that looks really good. nice setup skinner.
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/21 01:56 AM

BTW Lowes has a bunch of citrus trees,oranges,lemons,etc. $35 each. Sure they do,after I paid $60 for my mandarin tree from Callaways. rolleyes
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/21 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
Damn, that looks really good. nice setup skinner.


Beautiful children..
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/21 02:05 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
Damn, that looks really good. nice setup skinner.



Thank you Sir. We have more to do.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/21 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Payne
Damn, that looks really good. nice setup skinner.


Beautiful children..



Thank you Sir. When they're not fighting they are best friends.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/21 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
My plants are coming along. The kids & I just transplanted some more peppers (out of pic). Plenty more to come.

We have fun in the Garden together, container garden or not.

Thank you Lord for the gift of life.


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Beautiful kids and a great setup! You're doing awesome Skinner. Keep up the great work.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/21 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by skinnerback
My plants are coming along. The kids & I just transplanted some more peppers (out of pic). Plenty more to come.

We have fun in the Garden together, container garden or not.

Thank you Lord for the gift of life.


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Beautiful kids and a great setup! You're doing awesome Skinner. Keep up the great work.



Thank you Sir.

My baby girl hates to eat tomatoes, but loves to help me grow them.

I'll take what I can get. grin
Posted By: SouthWestIron

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/21 03:13 AM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by skinnerback
My plants are coming along. The kids & I just transplanted some more peppers (out of pic). Plenty more to come.

We have fun in the Garden together, container garden or not.

Thank you Lord for the gift of life.


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Beautiful kids and a great setup! You're doing awesome Skinner. Keep up the great work.



Thank you Sir.

My baby girl hates to eat tomatoes, but loves to help me grow them.

I'll take what I can get. grin



Awesome to get the kiddos trained to grow some food! Those are nice containers. Never seen any like them before.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/21 12:51 AM

Freakin’ precious memories Skinnerback!! Your plants are doing great!
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/21 03:26 PM

Greatest container garden I've ever seen, and doesn't get any more precious than having little ones, involved!! Congrats Skinnerback! up
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/21 11:05 PM

Thanks guys. My plan was to have everything transplanted into big containers by now, but ran out of funds so is what it is now.

That wind yesterday morning beat the heck out of my garden, broke a couple of my pepper plants. I've got some black jalapenos that are almost ready, looking forward to trying them out. The Satan's Kiss peppers are right behind them, can't wait to try them too. clap
Posted By: jetdad

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/21 12:11 AM

They are calling for 33 Tuesday night. I should probably cover my tomato plant, right?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/21 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by jetdad
They are calling for 33 Tuesday night. I should probably cover my tomato plant, right?


Yep.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/21 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by jetdad
They are calling for 33 Tuesday night. I should probably cover my tomato plant, right?

Wow - thx for mentioning; I almost thought we were done with frost.

At my place we get frost even if it doesn't quite make it to freezing.
Gonna be covering up my tom, peppers, & cucumbers.
Unfortunately my sweet-corn may take a hit - oh well, not too hard to replant.
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/21 01:43 PM

Well it got down to 33° this morning and everything I covered up still looks good. Turns out we had enough of a frost last week when it got down to 36° that I lost about 7 tomato plants. I will be replanting those spots this week. I will get the rest of my stuff planted next week.
When I checked my outside ride this morning the south facing parts were solid frost covered. Hope this is the last one this spring.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/21 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by jetdad
They are calling for 33 Tuesday night. I should probably cover my tomato plant, right?


Yep.

Sure glad I took the time to cover everything last night. They missed the forecast low of 36. Hit 31 at 6:15
Everything looks good!
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/21 03:08 PM

x3

- It was a pain, but I got everything that needed it covered up:

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Dang good thing I did too - this pic at 8:15am today:
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So far my corn looks good too; only 6" high, too much to cover it up, but I hit it with fertilized water yesterday - IMO the boost always helps. we'll see.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/21 03:11 PM

Covered mine pretty well. Hoping to make it home at lunch and uncover everything to see how they did.


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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/21 03:58 PM

What about Maggie and Tank? Did they sleep in your room/bed last night?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/21 04:10 PM

They are living the high life in the garage holding box until tomorrow. They don't seem to happy about it.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/21 06:56 PM

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How big is the root system on these?
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/21 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by Payne

How big is the root system on these?

I would say if they've been in those pots at least 2 weeks with sun, tips of roots would be touching edges of pot by now.
Still small enough if you need to 'replant' them - they'd do fine.

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/21 07:09 PM

I just put them in those pots, I have some bigger ones and wondered if I should have gone with a bigger pot after I planted them.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/21 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
I just put them in those pots, I have some bigger ones and wondered if I should have gone with a bigger pot after I planted them.

Oh - ok. They'd prolly be fine in that size at a minimum (looks like you have great soil mix with moisture-holding capacity ).
A bigger pot would make them a little more hardy/ drought tolerant especially if they will get all-day direct sun (12hrs+ = max production) or if you have to 'ignore' them several days in a row.
Could always put 'maters in the bigger pots! wink
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/21 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
x3

- It was a pain, but I got everything that needed it covered up:

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Dang good thing I did too - this pic at 8:15am today:
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So far my corn looks good too; only 6" high, too much to cover it up, but I hit it with fertilized water yesterday - IMO the boost always helps. we'll see.

BRRRRRR
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/21 12:06 AM

Payne, I thought you weren’t crazy bout them peppers?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/21 12:11 AM

I'm not and I won't eat any most likely. I was at the feed store and saw those two. I've never grown them so I thought I'd give it a shot.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/21 12:15 AM

Where the hell is Professor Pepper, I need to know how big the root system is...

Probably giving Maggie & Tank a bath...
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/21 12:19 AM

I’d say a full grown hab plant root system is 2-3 gallon pot size? Let’s see if I’m right
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/21 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
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How big is the root system on these?


It's extensive. They will easily send roots through the drain holes into the native soil. My pots are 14x14. Not sure the math on that but it's like a 4 gallon pot. Don't waste space. Fill the potting mix all the way to the top. Roots will be fine if you want to dig them up and transplant. I'm a hard core root pruner trans planter. I start in 4" round pots and have tons of circling roots. I aggressively break those up, a lot get broken off. No biggie they'll be fine. I actually do that with all transplants, vegetables, flowers and or shrubs, whatever. Most plants are not root prune sensitive, they will absorb NPK pretty quickly and form new ones. If you transplant and chop some root you can give them a foliar boost of 4oz of DEF (diesel exhaust fluid) teaspoon of blackstrap molasses mixed in a gallon of water and spray them down every other week and rock on. Plants and grass uptake foliar apps very quickly. Within a few hours. You can bypass crap soil that way. Your planting mix it on point, so the occasional foliar feeding will be fine, if any. Peppers are forgiving. You'll be fine. [Linked Image]
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/21 02:24 AM

That's an eight and a half inch one-gallon pot, looks like I'm transplanting tomorrow..

Read they like the sulfur

Thanks
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/21 02:41 AM

Was looking for root size of habs and then read they like sandy conditions. I’m like . . . bang
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/21 02:42 AM

Oh well, I ain’t changing again
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/21 03:09 AM

Sulfur is a Ph adjuster. High Ph you go Ammonium Sulfate(nitrogen and sulfur) based Nitrogen. Sulfur is pretty slow to work and the buffer amount needed is typically crazy. You're better off using citric acid to move the needle. The potted plant route it's not really not that big of a deal. Potting soil with peat mix in and your're typically under a 7 soil Ph. Easy nutrient uptake by the roots. Over 7 and stuff starts to get bound up and not available, so you need to go more foliar apps. Depending on what your tap water Ph is, which should be close to 7 you can add a pinch of CA per gal when hand watering, And I mean a pinch! Will drop your water Ph from a 7 to a 5. This is why Azaleas look awesome at The Masters and look horrible in NTX. Soil Ph. But yet every Nursery in NTX has S tons of Azaleas. They do great for a couple years then decline. By the time they fail the homeowner forgot why they bought them. Sorry. I got sidetracked on a rant. Ph baby!
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/21 03:14 AM

Is it too late to be planting bulbs?
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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/21 03:16 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Was looking for root size of habs and then read they like sandy conditions. I’m like . . . bang


Habs DGAF. If you or anyone #Payne screw up growing a Hab. I won't be happy.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/21 03:44 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Sulfur is a Ph adjuster. High Ph you go Ammonium Sulfate(nitrogen and sulfur) based Nitrogen. Sulfur is pretty slow to work and the buffer amount needed is typically crazy. You're better off using citric acid to move the needle. The potted plant route it's not really not that big of a deal. Potting soil with peat mix in and your're typically under a 7 soil Ph. Easy nutrient uptake by the roots. Over 7 and stuff starts to get bound up and not available, so you need to go more foliar apps. Depending on what your tap water Ph is, which should be close to 7 you can add a pinch of CA per gal when hand watering, And I mean a pinch! Will drop your water Ph from a 7 to a 5. This is why Azaleas look awesome at The Masters and look horrible in NTX. Soil Ph. But yet every Nursery in NTX has S tons of Azaleas. They do great for a couple years then decline. By the time they fail the homeowner forgot why they bought them. Sorry. I got sidetracked on a rant. Ph baby!



I'm not reading that until you start spacing correctly

I read i should throw some matches around the hab's hole
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/21 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Payne
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How big is the root system on these?


It's extensive. They will easily send roots through the drain holes into the native soil. My pots are 14x14. Not sure the math on that but it's like a 4 gallon pot. Don't waste space. Fill the potting mix all the way to the top. Roots will be fine if you want to dig them up and transplant. I'm a hard core root pruner trans planter. I start in 4" round pots and have tons of circling roots. I aggressively break those up, a lot get broken off. No biggie they'll be fine. I actually do that with all transplants, vegetables, flowers and or shrubs, whatever. Most plants are not root prune sensitive, they will absorb NPK pretty quickly and form new ones. If you transplant and chop some root you can give them a foliar boost of 4oz of DEF (diesel exhaust fluid) teaspoon of blackstrap molasses mixed in a gallon of water and spray them down every other week and rock on. Plants and grass uptake foliar apps very quickly. Within a few hours. You can bypass crap soil that way. Your planting mix it on point, so the occasional foliar feeding will be fine, if any. Peppers are forgiving. You'll be fine. [Linked Image]



Wait, what? You spray DEF on plants to fertilize?? Educate me.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/21 11:59 AM

Skinnerback is south of me. It is great that we have no frost.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/21 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Originally Posted by Derek
Sulfur is a Ph adjuster. High Ph you go Ammonium Sulfate(nitrogen and sulfur) based Nitrogen. Sulfur is pretty slow to work and the buffer amount needed is typically crazy. You're better off using citric acid to move the needle. The potted plant route it's not really not that big of a deal. Potting soil with peat mix in and your're typically under a 7 soil Ph. Easy nutrient uptake by the roots. Over 7 and stuff starts to get bound up and not available, so you need to go more foliar apps. Depending on what your tap water Ph is, which should be close to 7 you can add a pinch of CA per gal when hand watering, And I mean a pinch! Will drop your water Ph from a 7 to a 5. This is why Azaleas look awesome at The Masters and look horrible in NTX. Soil Ph. But yet every Nursery in NTX has S tons of Azaleas. They do great for a couple years then decline. By the time they fail the homeowner forgot why they bought them. Sorry. I got sidetracked on a rant. Ph baby!



I'm not reading that until you start spacing correctly

I read i should throw some matches around the hab's hole


Matches work great. Key is to strike them just prior to putting them next to your plants.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/21 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Wait, what? You spray DEF on plants to fertilize?? Educate me.


DEF is pretty much the purest form of Urea(Nitrogen) you can buy. DEF is nothing but Urea and water. In a fertilizer ratio it's 15-0-0. 10oz of DEF mixed in a gallon of water equals 0.1#'s of nitrogen. Lat year I sprayed DEF at the equivalent of 1/4# of nitrogen on my grass every two weeks and the results were great.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/21 01:38 PM

Well . . . . . THAT ain’t weird or nuthin.

If I ever need to disappear anyone, I know who to call roflmao
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/21 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by skinnerback
Wait, what? You spray DEF on plants to fertilize?? Educate me.


DEF is pretty much the purest form of Urea(Nitrogen) you can buy. DEF is nothing but Urea and water. In a fertilizer ratio it's 15-0-0. 10oz of DEF mixed in a gallon of water equals 0.1#'s of nitrogen. Lat year I sprayed DEF at the equivalent of 1/4# of nitrogen on my grass every two weeks and the results were great.



Interesting. Wondering if I should spray my tomato and pepper plants now, they are starting to produce.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/21 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by skinnerback
Wait, what? You spray DEF on plants to fertilize?? Educate me.


DEF is pretty much the purest form of Urea(Nitrogen) you can buy. DEF is nothing but Urea and water. In a fertilizer ratio it's 15-0-0. 10oz of DEF mixed in a gallon of water equals 0.1#'s of nitrogen. Lat year I sprayed DEF at the equivalent of 1/4# of nitrogen on my grass every two weeks and the results were great.



Interesting. Wondering if I should spray my tomato and pepper plants now, they are starting to produce.


Now’s when you back off the nitro. Up the others
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/21 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by skinnerback
Wait, what? You spray DEF on plants to fertilize?? Educate me.


DEF is pretty much the purest form of Urea(Nitrogen) you can buy. DEF is nothing but Urea and water. In a fertilizer ratio it's 15-0-0. 10oz of DEF mixed in a gallon of water equals 0.1#'s of nitrogen. Lat year I sprayed DEF at the equivalent of 1/4# of nitrogen on my grass every two weeks and the results were great.



Interesting. Wondering if I should spray my tomato and pepper plants now, they are starting to produce.


Now’s when you back off the nitro. Up the others


My little baby is growing up so fast! I'm trying out a 2-20-20 product this year come bloom time. A buddy of mine is trying out a 10-50-10. We will compare notes at the end of the season.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/21 02:54 PM

10-50-10. That’s the stuff I was telling you I saw? Ferti-Lome?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/21 03:27 PM

The one he is using is a product from Kelp 4 Less.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/21 03:50 PM

Oh . . . . . well then. Mr fancy pants
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/21 11:07 PM

Heavy frost the other day. Looks like everything in this garden made it.

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/21 04:10 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Oh . . . . . well then. Mr fancy pants

"Hey, Fancy Vest!"
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/21 01:02 PM

Light rain here this morning.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/21 01:13 PM

We got a little drizzle overnight. Hoping for any amount of rain today. My container tomato and jalapeño plants don’t care for the city water.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/21 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
We got a little drizzle overnight. Hoping for any amount of rain today. My container tomato and jalapeño plants don’t care for the city water.


You could have pretty alkaline city water. Simple litmus test will tell you. Get a bottle of citric acid at the grocery store. When you mix water in your watering container add just a pinch of citric per gallon. It will drop your water Ph significantly and should get a better response. And I mean just a pinch. Salt bae it.
Posted By: presley

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/21 02:47 PM

Does anyone know where I can get some 5 gal, minimum, Texas Silver Sage around the Grapevine area?
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/21 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Light rain here this morning.

Got a quick drizzle here. About 15 seconds.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/21 03:02 PM

Salt bae?!? Wrong side Derek
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/21 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Salt bae?!? Wrong side Derek


Oops. TFF'ers are the salt bae'rs.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/21 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by presley
Does anyone know where I can get some 5 gal, minimum, Texas Silver Sage around the Grapevine area?


Texas Sage is pretty popular and should be easy to find. Maybe not 5 gal, but 3 gallon should be easy.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/21 03:36 PM

Marinated salad anyone?

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Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/21 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
We got a little drizzle overnight. Hoping for any amount of rain today. My container tomato and jalapeño plants don’t care for the city water.

true dat.
Like Derek said could be ph (tap water alkaline) and often rain is slightly acidic - his citric acid tip is a good one.
Here are two more:
rainwater doesn't have any chlorine in it - let tap-water set in container a couple days before using for watering;
rainwater has a little bit of nitrogen in it and is foliar feeding - likely to boost over just root-only feeding - save some clean rainwater for future foliar misting.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/21 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
We got a little drizzle overnight. Hoping for any amount of rain today. My container tomato and jalapeño plants don’t care for the city water.

true dat.
Like Derek said could be ph (tap water alkaline) and often rain is slightly acidic - his citric acid tip is a good one.
Here are two more:
rainwater doesn't have any chlorine in it - let tap-water set in container a couple days before using for watering;
rainwater has a little bit of nitrogen in it and is foliar feeding - likely to boost over just root-only feeding - save some clean rainwater for future foliar misting.

I’d love to save some rain water, but it has to rain first.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/21 04:27 PM

Still getting the drizzle. I'm in and out.
Posted By: cullbuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/21 05:20 PM

What are the best chemicals to get rid of cucumber beetles?
The dang things have attacked my sweet corn.
Malathion didn't do much to them and the new watered down version of liquid 7 doesn't seem to last long or have the same control as the old stuff used to.
I have a fairly large garden (approx. 1 ac.) so I need something that's not cost prohibitive to apply in volume.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/21 05:37 PM

It raining!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/21 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by cullbuck
What are the best chemicals to get rid of cucumber beetles?
The dang things have attacked my sweet corn.
Malathion didn't do much to them and the new watered down version of liquid 7 doesn't seem to last long or have the same control as the old stuff used to.
I have a fairly large garden (approx. 1 ac.) so I need something that's not cost prohibitive to apply in volume.


I use Thuricide. Some recommend Sevin dust.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/21 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
It raining!

Thunderstorms now!
Posted By: presley

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/21 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by presley
Does anyone know where I can get some 5 gal, minimum, Texas Silver Sage around the Grapevine area?


Texas Sage is pretty popular and should be easy to find. Maybe not 5 gal, but 3 gallon should be easy.

Yeah, you would think but the local HD, Lowes, Walmarts etc., no go so was looking for any other garden centers. I wanted larger since they are replacing ones that died in an 8 foot hedgerow.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/21 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by presley
Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by presley
Does anyone know where I can get some 5 gal, minimum, Texas Silver Sage around the Grapevine area?


Texas Sage is pretty popular and should be easy to find. Maybe not 5 gal, but 3 gallon should be easy.

Yeah, you would think but the local HD, Lowes, Walmarts etc., no go so was looking for any other garden centers. I wanted larger since they are replacing ones that died in an 8 foot hedgerow.


Call mikes on 114 toward south lake
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/21 06:28 PM

Couple times I was looking for something specific Calloway's corporate office was helpful telling me which store had exactly what I wanted.
(817) 222-1122
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/21 09:09 PM

getting some good rainwater here now. up
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/21 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
getting some good rainwater here now. up

just started here too,
perfect timing, just put in another small block of sweet-corn seed - (staggering it this year, so we don't 'get it all at once')
also just put in 2 small 'experimental' patches of pepper seed - (from some seeds saved from last years ripe bell & jalapeno peppers)

Also found 2 volunteer tomato plants - 3" high already, and coming up in great spots where I can leave them - just need cages.


Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/21 09:55 PM

My volunteer cucumbers last year did great.. I'm saving a few seeds to plant in June.
Posted By: Greg

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/21 10:11 PM

How are y’alls tomatoes doing? I got 4 I’m giving a go via hydro P just to see if I can do it. 2 Cherokee Purples, a beefsteak, and a big beef. (The purples we grew from seed, the other 2 I bought starts) So far so good. Probably have 15 or 20 little tomatoes with lots of blooms. Dad’s growing his in soil and we are gonna have a blind taste test to see if there is a difference if I can keep mine going food

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/21 10:25 PM

Love the tomatoes on the patio.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/21 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by Greg
How are y’alls tomatoes doing? I got 4 I’m giving a go via hydro P just to see if I can do it. 2 Cherokee Purples, a beefsteak, and a big beef. (The purples we grew from seed, the other 2 I bought starts) So far so good. Probably have 15 or 20 little tomatoes with lots of blooms. Dad’s growing his in soil and we are gonna have a blind taste test to see if there is a difference if I can keep mine going food

That's a cool setup - those plants look happy - you using some kinda special mix in the liquid?
Posted By: Greg

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/21 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by Greg
How are y’alls tomatoes doing? I got 4 I’m giving a go via hydro P just to see if I can do it. 2 Cherokee Purples, a beefsteak, and a big beef. (The purples we grew from seed, the other 2 I bought starts) So far so good. Probably have 15 or 20 little tomatoes with lots of blooms. Dad’s growing his in soil and we are gonna have a blind taste test to see if there is a difference if I can keep mine going food

That's a cool setup - those plants look happy - you using some kinda special mix in the liquid?


Thanks oldoak and Bill... they seem to be liking it. The tub holds 15 gal of water and I mix in 18 grams of Magnesium Sulfate (Epsom Salt), 36 grams of Calcium Nitrate, and 36 grams of Master Blend tomato & vegetable formula. I change the water about every 10 days. The plants are sitting in 100% perlite, so no soil at all. (All the nutrients they get come from the water) Got me a little pump in the tub that feeds each bucket from a line and then returns out the bottom of the buckets to the tub once it reaches a couple inches in the buckets. Been running the pump about an hour a day for the last 5 weeks.

Wish I had some more room to get a real garden going but I'm kinda tapped out on space with my little yard. Looking at the past few pages on this thread and the ones pictured are amazing!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/21 12:58 PM

I once made a really small vegetable garden with three landscape timbers. I cut one in half and ended with a 4 by 8 bed.
Posted By: yotehater

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/21 01:51 PM

We had first batch of fried squash last night. Love them with a little sea salt and a drizzle of ranch.
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and seconds... they were going as fast as they were cooking.
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Time to do some more weeding.
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The lettuce and carrots are taking off.
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The onion, garlic, and broccoli are doing great too.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/21 03:50 PM

Wrong forum. You have a truck garden, not a simple vegetable garden.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/21 03:54 PM

My watermelons are sprouting banana
Edit
I planted some seeds in some small pots to get them started, i had also planted some in mounds in my garden, but Pumpkin quickly took them over... i was looking closer at some of the pumpkin plant this morning, and noticed a plant about 5" tall right in the middle of all the pumpkin was 1 watermelon plant growing i had not seen. so i cleared some of the pumpkins out from around it.... so looks like i'll have 4 Watermelon plants coming up.
Posted By: yotehater

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/21 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Wrong forum. You have a truck garden, not a simple vegetable garden.


cheers
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/21 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
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https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/57326/bobs-habanero-hot-sauce-liquid-fire/
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/21 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by yotehater
We had first batch of fried squash last night. Love them with a little sea salt and a drizzle of ranch.
and seconds... they were going as fast as they were cooking.
Time to do some more weeding.
The lettuce and carrots are taking off.
The onion, garlic, and broccoli are doing great too.

cheers up

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Wrong forum. You have a truck garden, not a simple vegetable garden.

Ha - said the same to me.
Bill, we're just trying to catch up to you, man!
my grandpa and papa kept nice garden just like you - guess it took! cheers texas

we're harvesting spinach, kale, lettuce, & turnup greens right now; late on everything else though, as usual...
Posted By: Greg

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/21 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
My watermelons are sprouting banana
Edit
I planted some seeds in some small pots to get them started, i had also planted some in mounds in my garden, but Pumpkin quickly took them over... i was looking closer at some of the pumpkin plant this morning, and noticed a plant about 5" tall right in the middle of all the pumpkin was 1 watermelon plant growing i had not seen. so i cleared some of the pumpkins out from around it.... so looks like i'll have 4 Watermelon plants coming up.


That’s great. Hopefully they will be real sweet ones food
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/21 10:48 PM

hope so too!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/21 11:15 AM

All of the later gardens will start catching up this week. Perfect weather for gardening.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/21 02:02 AM

Kids and gardens.

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Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/21 01:00 PM

Nice work! Our kids love digging those potatoes. Couple weeks left before we can dig
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/21 01:58 PM

I’ve got about a dozen tomatoes sprouted on my container plants. The wait is killing me.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/21 02:26 PM

Fingers crossed.

It is only 9:30 and my to do list has already been done. Just setting back and enjoying the fruits of my labor. cheers
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/21 07:18 PM

up
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/21 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Kids and gardens.

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She's beautiful.

I went back and bought one more tomato. Plant trying to get a few jumbos. They are now making. Most are cat faced.
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/21 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Kids and gardens.

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got ya some good lookin helpers there. just need to get the one some front teeth. lol
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/21 12:07 AM

Found this.

"Everybody stops and stares at me
These two teeth are gone as you can see
I don't know just who to blame for this catastrophe
But my one wish on Christmas Eve is as plain as can be…"
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/21 12:09 AM

Thanks yall. LOL yep I've got a snaggletooth baby girl. She loves helping in the garden, and the kitchen. She's also pretty excited about killing her first deer & pig. I can't wait!
Posted By: Paluxy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/21 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Kids and gardens.

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Awesome Skinner!
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/21 01:51 AM

Got two green 'maters on one of my plants banana
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/21 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Got two green 'maters on one of my plants banana

cheers
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/21 02:49 PM

Ok, got 4 watermelon starters, and 1 eggplant starter put in, and then a few other veggies (unplanned) put in from seed this morning.
Going all out this year, boss said we're gonna continue working remotely at least till fall - that give me 2-3 free hours extra per day at home!
The Mrs. even put in some marigold starters on the inner row endcaps - gonna be a pretty one too!

Rain just started (for next 2 days) - so time to take a breather!
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/21 03:11 PM

Awesome Oak!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/21 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Ok, got 4 watermelon starters, and 1 eggplant starter put in, and then a few other veggies (unplanned) put in from seed this morning.
Going all out this year, boss said we're gonna continue working remotely at least till fall - that give me 2-3 free hours extra per day at home!
The Mrs. even put in some marigold starters on the inner row endcaps - gonna be a pretty one too!

Rain just started (for next 2 days) - so time to take a breather!



Watermelon, watermelon, big and fine. Eat the meat, pickle the rind, save the seeds until planting time.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/21 04:38 PM

Where there’s a will, there’s a way. These are old pumpkin seeds taken out of a pool pump skimmer basket and they sprouted in these clippings [Linked Image]
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/21 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Where there’s a will, there’s a way. These are old pumpkin seeds taken out of a pool pump skimmer basket and they sprouted in these clippings [Linked Image]

My punkin is bigger than your punkin. [Linked Image]
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/21 05:24 PM

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/21 05:26 PM

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My biggest watermelon plant that didn't get taken over by the pumpkin.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/21 05:27 PM

Looking good.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/21 11:13 PM

My cheesy lil herb garden starting to take off
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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/21 11:13 PM

Rosemary never took. Weird
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/21 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Rosemary never took. Weird



Its not too late to start over.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 12:00 AM

TCM3 - nice progress!
Bullfrog - rosemary propagates really easily from cuttings - wife has it all over our flower beds & landscaping - just from trimmings off the first plant.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
TCM3 - nice progress!
Bullfrog - rosemary propagates really easily from cuttings - wife has it all over our flower beds & landscaping - just from trimmings off the first plant.


I don’t need anything but a cutting? Just stab it in the ground?
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Originally Posted by oldoak2000
TCM3 - nice progress!
Bullfrog - rosemary propagates really easily from cuttings - wife has it all over our flower beds & landscaping - just from trimmings off the first plant.


I don’t need anything but a cutting? Just stab it in the ground?

Yeah, that's what she does.
She first realized it when she shoveled some compost over clippings laying on the ground from our first plant she trimmed, and they continued growing up thru the compost.
She transplanted those, and 2 years later we got 24" plants. Started dozen others by just pushing cutting into ground where she wanted them.

A few inches of young woody stem with soft new growth on top - pushed into fertile soil and keep moist a few weeks.
You can drop the same into a water-bottle with just water in it, and watch the roots sprout from the woody stem, then transplant.

She also does the same with Red Texas Sage (Furman's Red Texas Salvia ) - not an herb, but drought & cold proof & hummingbirds love it.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 01:21 AM

Just a few inches you say?

Jk, I will try this with my peppers this year. They sell root stimulant. I wonder how much faster that would make it
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 01:49 AM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Originally Posted by oldoak2000
TCM3 - nice progress!
Bullfrog - rosemary propagates really easily from cuttings - wife has it all over our flower beds & landscaping - just from trimmings off the first plant.


I don’t need anything but a cutting? Just stab it in the ground?

Yeah, that's what she does.
She first realized it when she shoveled some compost over clippings laying on the ground from our first plant she trimmed, and they continued growing up thru the compost.
She transplanted those, and 2 years later we got 24" plants. Started dozen others by just pushing cutting into ground where she wanted them.

A few inches of young woody stem with soft new growth on top - pushed into fertile soil and keep moist a few weeks.
You can drop the same into a water-bottle with just water in it, and watch the roots sprout from the woody stem, then transplant.

She also does the same with Red Texas Sage (Furman's Red Texas Salvia ) - not an herb, but drought & cold proof & hummingbirds love it.


Yeah it's easy to do. It's called Cloning. Over winter I messed around Cloning Tomatoes in a water bottle, but added root promoting peptides. Results were incredible vs just straight water.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 01:50 AM

Anyone know what type food or what not you can use them in... spice up the chili? confused2 i'm very much a novice with peppers....
but not with watermelons food
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 01:56 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Just a few inches you say?
Jk, I will try this with my peppers this year. They sell root stimulant. I wonder how much faster that would make it

Ha!
Yeah, that will help, so will putting just a speck of miracle-grow in the water too, and if using tap water- let it set for few days to let chlorine out.

I have a ton of wild mustang grape vines growing on this property - gonna try starting some cuttings from it, for rootstock, and then next year graft some fine wine-grape stems onto the rootstock. grin
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Originally Posted by oldoak2000
TCM3 - nice progress!
Bullfrog - rosemary propagates really easily from cuttings - wife has it all over our flower beds & landscaping - just from trimmings off the first plant.


I don’t need anything but a cutting? Just stab it in the ground?


Found this.

Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 03:00 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Anyone know what type food or what not you can use them in... spice up the chili? confused2 i'm very much a novice with peppers....
but not with watermelons food


We should meet up when you have melons ready to pick. I’ll trade ya for some peppers brother
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 03:19 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Where there’s a will, there’s a way. These are old pumpkin seeds taken out of a pool pump skimmer basket and they sprouted in these clippings [Linked Image]

[Linked Image]
These clippings are what the pumpkin seeds are growing out of.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 03:22 AM

Soooooo who’s the cantaloupe master here? That’s REALLY what I’d give body parts for.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 03:35 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Soooooo who’s the cantaloupe master here? That’s REALLY what I’d give body parts for.

Which parts you got.... I've never grown cantaloupe before... But i could try roflmao
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 03:42 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Originally Posted by TCM3
Anyone know what type food or what not you can use them in... spice up the chili? confused2 i'm very much a novice with peppers....
but not with watermelons food


We should meet up when you have melons ready to pick. I’ll trade ya for some peppers brother

Got any peppers the size of Watermelons? It's got to be a fair trade now..... rofl
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 03:55 AM

Ping pong ball sized hail did a number on my container garden. Pics in the morning. There may be more in a little while.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 03:56 AM

Uh oh
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 04:08 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Originally Posted by TCM3
Anyone know what type food or what not you can use them in... spice up the chili? confused2 i'm very much a novice with peppers....
but not with watermelons food


We should meet up when you have melons ready to pick. I’ll trade ya for some peppers brother

Got any peppers the size of Watermelons? It's got to be a fair trade now..... rofl


I don’t wanna sound like I’m bragging but I’m confidant I could make that trade happen. Better be some dern good melons tho! roflmao
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 04:08 AM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Ping pong ball sized hail did a number on my container garden. Pics in the morning. There may be more in a little while.


Yeah that ain’t good.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 04:09 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Originally Posted by TCM3
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Originally Posted by TCM3
Anyone know what type food or what not you can use them in... spice up the chili? confused2 i'm very much a novice with peppers....
but not with watermelons food


We should meet up when you have melons ready to pick. I’ll trade ya for some peppers brother

Got any peppers the size of Watermelons? It's got to be a fair trade now..... rofl


I don’t wanna sound like I’m bragging but I’m confidant I could make that trade happen. Better be some dern good melons tho! roflmao

rofl
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 04:21 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Soooooo who’s the cantaloupe master here? That’s REALLY what I’d give body parts for.

Which parts you got.... I've never grown cantaloupe before... But i could try roflmao


I hear melons do really well in sandy loam. If your watermelons do well, cantaloupe will too.
I’d bury bodies for a top notch cantaloupe. Just sayin.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Soooooo who’s the cantaloupe master here? That’s REALLY what I’d give body parts for.

We had real good luck last year with Hales Best Jumbo - put in straight from seeds. Kept producing till fall - they were amazing. Heirloom too, so never have to buy seeds again. I think I have a half pound of seeds somewhere, if I can find them.

Here ya go: https://texashuntingforum.com/forum...0305/re-thf-gardening-thread#Post7910305
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 01:59 PM

Good GAWD man! A 5 pounder! Very nice.

Just so we’re clear, I’m not even gonna attempt to grow any. I grew up with my Mom getting some of the best ones from a produce stand in Aurora, between Rhome and Boyd. They came from somewhere that was in the river bottoms of the Trinity and dadgum they were amazing. She knew how to pick good ones by smell, regardless of ripeness. If it was early, she’d just wait to get into it. They gotta smell sweet. If not, pass on it.

Like most men, I’ll drive a ways for some dern good melons. clap
Posted By: yotehater

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 05:05 PM

These Tangerine Dream peppers I started are about ready to go out into the garden.
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 05:14 PM

They look as healthy as any seedling I've seen.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 05:24 PM

Tomato plants only sustained minor damage from last nights hail storm. A large handful of broken branches. Couple leaves knocked off of jalapeño plant.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Good GAWD man! A 5 pounder! Very nice.
Just so we’re clear, I’m not even gonna attempt to grow any. I grew up with my Mom getting some of the best ones from a produce stand in Aurora, between Rhome and Boyd. They came from somewhere that was in the river bottoms of the Trinity and dadgum they were amazing. She knew how to pick good ones by smell, regardless of ripeness. If it was early, she’d just wait to get into it. They gotta smell sweet. If not, pass on it.
Like most men, I’ll drive a ways for some dern good melons. clap


Yup - I'm on the Elm Fork floodplain of the Trinity - sandy loam a foot and a half thick, and gravel under that. - I hit water 20 feet down.
Crazy too cause my wife planted the seeds in an area of the garden I was prepping for the next year, and hadn't ever added any compost/amendments yet there.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by yotehater
These Tangerine Dream peppers I started are about ready to go out into the garden.
[Linked Image]


Those are beautiful
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Originally Posted by yotehater
These Tangerine Dream peppers I started are about ready to go out into the garden.
[Linked Image]


Those are beautiful


You're ordering Tangerine Dream seeds right now aren't you.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/21 11:10 PM

roflmao
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/21 02:37 AM

Good GAWD even I have limits and I surpassed mine LONG ago roflmao
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/21 02:45 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Originally Posted by yotehater
These Tangerine Dream peppers I started are about ready to go out into the garden.
[Linked Image]


Those are beautiful


You're ordering Tangerine Dream seeds right now aren't you.


Y’all remember Wizard of Oz? The poppy field scene? Replace those with these plants covered in peppers and I’d lay down and die a happy man in that field. Just sayin
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/21 02:56 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Originally Posted by yotehater
These Tangerine Dream peppers I started are about ready to go out into the garden.
[Linked Image]


Those are beautiful


You're ordering Tangerine Dream seeds right now aren't you.


Y’all remember Wizard of Oz? The poppy field scene? Replace those with these plants covered in peppers and I’d lay down and die a happy man in that field. Just sayin

lol35
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/21 02:56 AM

It's Raining!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/21 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
It's Raining!


Just now passing through here. up
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/21 12:44 PM

Been raining for an hour, inch and a half so far. pic of some knockouts I propagated last week.

[Linked Image]
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/21 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by TCM3
It's Raining!


Just now passing through here. up

still raining!
Posted By: BayouGuy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/21 03:43 PM

Do you prune your pepper plants? I never have, but did so this morning after watching this side-by-side video.

Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/21 03:59 PM

Bullfrog is frantically searching for his scissors now..... peep
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/21 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by BayouGuy
Do you prune your pepper plants? I never have, but did so this morning after watching this side-by-side video.



Yes I do. This is my serrano. The day I topped it then two weeks later.

[Linked Image]
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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/21 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Been raining for an hour, inch and a half so far. pic of some knockouts I propagated last week.

[Linked Image]


Nice! Those are looking good.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/21 04:22 PM

Thanks, I did six red roses my grandmother planted at her house in Bellaire in the fifties also.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/21 05:59 PM

Ice box pickles tomorrow.. Stuffed bell peppers Sunday.

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Posted By: jetdad

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/21 06:20 PM

Dang Bill, you got it going. Those look great!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/21 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by TCM3
It's Raining!


Just now passing through here. up

still raining!


It is 80% chance of more rain here tomorrow.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/21 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by jetdad
Dang Bill, you got it going. Those look great!



I came close to going meatless at dinner tonight.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 12:08 AM

We have a senior property in Frisco with a ton of raised beds that none of the residents have started using yet. I went out yesterday and prepped the beds with chicken poop, alfalfa pellets and bone meal in the planting locations.
Today I went and planted some of my tomatoes, threw some seeds down for basil, cilantro and some dill. Also mixed in a bunch of baby onion bulbs that were given to me all over as unmarked suprises. If it weren’t for that DadGUM lawn crew, today would have been the most peaceful day ever. They took my dirty looks and got the hint.
This is the before, mind you theres 16-7X10 beds and 4 7X16 beds. I just did 1.5 of them. [Linked Image]
I repurposed a bunch of bamboo tiki torches for bracing of the ‘maters. [Linked Image]
It may be done all wrong, I dunno and I don’t care. I’ve got a guy that’s gonna help me monitor everything and send me pics since I won’t be able to return for a bit
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[Linked Image]
All in all, I sure have enjoyed the HECK out of the last two days since I got paid to do it, as well as create a little buzz on the property for the residents to start their own little areas. Pretty neat. Next week, back to being a grunt laborer
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 12:09 AM

And those are all my very own babies, started from seed. Only about 35 to go lol
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 12:12 AM

That's a pretty nice set of raised beds.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 12:27 AM

We are getting more rain now. My jalapeño plant is loving it, and my container variety tomato plant has 7 green ones growing.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 01:30 AM

Lil man puttin’ in work this evening.
[Linked Image]
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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 01:50 AM

up
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 02:56 AM

Wish i had a. good helper like that. I try to get my little nephew out there with me, but he won't do it.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 03:50 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
We have a senior property in Frisco with a ton of raised beds that none of the residents have started using yet. I went out yesterday and prepped the beds with chicken poop, alfalfa pellets and bone meal in the planting locations.
Today I went and planted some of my tomatoes, threw some seeds down for basil, cilantro and some dill. Also mixed in a bunch of baby onion bulbs that were given to me all over as unmarked suprises. If it weren’t for that DadGUM lawn crew, today would have been the most peaceful day ever. They took my dirty looks and got the hint.
This is the before, mind you theres 16-7X10 beds and 4 7X16 beds. I just did 1.5 of them.
All in all, I sure have enjoyed the HECK out of the last two days since I got paid to do it, as well as create a little buzz on the property for the residents to start their own little areas. Pretty neat. Next week, back to being a grunt laborer

Nice! They’ll enjoy those
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 03:59 AM

One more pic for the night just because of the level of pride I have . . . just looking at them. I’ve said numerous times that I want NO part of dealing with these Dragon’s Breath peppers but . . . . Dad-GUM if they’re not freakin’ beautiful little plants right now, and by gosh they make me swell up with pride when I look at them. I mean surely these gotta win some sorta prize, right?
[Linked Image]
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 04:00 AM

up
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 04:05 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
up


Thanks brother. Derek sure does have me runnin’ on all cylinders now. Dam this whole process has been fun, learning everything I have.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 04:59 AM

Maybe the THF needs to host a "pertiest" Pepper Plant contest....
duel
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 11:03 AM

Bullfrog is the big man. cheers
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 11:34 AM

I have never had such good luck with radishes. These are only a hint of spicy, not woody in any way, and are as crisp and juicy as an apple. They are "Chef's Kiss" and I highly recommend them. In the background you will see my hand plowed garden I composted and mixed the soil for. Retiring from little league baseball (mostly) and getting rid of my chickens gave me time and room to take care of a garden again and take better care of my St. Augustine. We are growing onions from slips plus radishes, lettuce, kale, carrots, and some others from seeds, as well as tomatoes and peppers from starter plants. My biggest tomato plants are volunteers from my compost. I have a small house on a 1/4 acre lot in town just doing my best.

[Linked Image]
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 01:13 PM

Love me some radishes
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
One more pic for the night just because of the level of pride I have . . . just looking at them. I’ve said numerous times that I want NO part of dealing with these Dragon’s Breath peppers but . . . . Dad-GUM if they’re not freakin’ beautiful little plants right now, and by gosh they make me swell up with pride when I look at them. I mean surely these gotta win some sorta prize, right?

Pretty little devil there! Aren’t those deadly?
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by GasGuzzler
I have never had such good luck with radishes. These are only a hint of spicy, not woody in any way, and are as crisp and juicy as an apple. They are "Chef's Kiss" and I highly recommend them. In the background you will see my hand plowed garden I composted and mixed the soil for. Retiring from little league baseball (mostly) and getting rid of my chickens gave me time and room to take care of a garden again and take better care of my St. Augustine. We are growing onions from slips plus radishes, lettuce, kale, carrots, and some others from seeds, as well as tomatoes and peppers from starter plants. My biggest tomato plants are volunteers from my compost. I have a small house on a 1/4 acre lot in town just doing my best.]

Nice! Will have to try them.
Turnips grow real good up here too - I have some that are great eating, and a ton of seed- may have to track you down and get you some before fall ( best time for them).
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 02:39 PM

Fall and winter here.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 03:18 PM

North TX update. The rain has been good. Potatoes are probably a week or 2 from digging. Okra and squash starting to look strong.
[Linked Image]
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[Linked Image]
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
One more pic for the night just because of the level of pride I have . . . just looking at them. I’ve said numerous times that I want NO part of dealing with these Dragon’s Breath peppers but . . . . Dad-GUM if they’re not freakin’ beautiful little plants right now, and by gosh they make me swell up with pride when I look at them. I mean surely these gotta win some sorta prize, right?

Pretty little devil there! Aren’t those deadly?

Habanero=100K-350K scoville units
Dragon’s Breath= 2.4 million.

bolt
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 03:21 PM

Stevarino, that set up makes me jealous
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
One more pic for the night just because of the level of pride I have . . . just looking at them. I’ve said numerous times that I want NO part of dealing with these Dragon’s Breath peppers but . . . . Dad-GUM if they’re not freakin’ beautiful little plants right now, and by gosh they make me swell up with pride when I look at them. I mean surely these gotta win some sorta prize, right?

Pretty little devil there! Aren’t those deadly?

Habanero=100K-350K scoville units
Dragon’s Breath= 2.4 million.

bolt

[Linked Image]
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Stevarino, that set up makes me jealous


Thanks. It aint square, but it works. My original garden was 16x16. Then had the idea to build a raised bed in the shape of an E with 4’ wide beds, 2’ wide walkways. Easy to work all sides.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by Stevarino
North TX update. The rain has been good. Potatoes are probably a week or 2 from digging. Okra and squash starting to look strong.



You can start grubbing to those potatoes and eat them now. Look for cracks in mounds.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Stevarino
North TX update. The rain has been good. Potatoes are probably a week or 2 from digging. Okra and squash starting to look strong.



You can start grubbing to those potatoes and eat them now. Look for cracks in mounds.

Yes sir.. I’ve seen a couple small ones on top, but just cover them back up for now. I’ve got 4 goldens in the back which we’ve never grown before but they look healthy..

Here’s a pic of the new build. Not sure I’ve posted or not, but the design works well for my yard.
[Linked Image]
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by Stevarino
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Stevarino
North TX update. The rain has been good. Potatoes are probably a week or 2 from digging. Okra and squash starting to look strong.



You can start grubbing to those potatoes and eat them now. Look for cracks in mounds.

Yes sir.. I’ve seen a couple small ones on top, but just cover them back up for now. I’ve got 4 goldens in the back which we’ve never grown before but they look healthy..

Here’s a pic of the new build. Not sure I’ve posted or not, but the design works well for my yard.
[Linked Image]

That looks GREAT! Just curious how long do you think the wood will last?
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 04:54 PM

Who knows.. maybe 6-8 years? I’ll probably stain and seal the outside late summer. Just didn’t want to do it right before planting.. I hope it lasts long enough for lumber prices to come back down.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by Stevarino
Who knows.. maybe 6-8 years? I’ll probably stain and seal the outside late summer. Just didn’t want to do it right before planting.. I hope it lasts long enough for lumber prices to come back down.


I did mine with 20 inch by 20 inch concrete blocks. They each bolt together. I have the molds to do 5 at a time if the lumber prices stay high cheers
[Linked Image]
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 06:01 PM

I really think I’m gonna do something similar to this. These blocks been around a minute but I just noticed them this week. I need to find me an area where they’re building a bunch out houses and scalp some boards for free. I won’t need anything past 4 foot long 2X6
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 06:06 PM



Stevarino is cutting up like a new pair of scissors.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by Stevarino
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Stevarino, that set up makes me jealous


Thanks. It aint square, but it works. My original garden was 16x16. Then had the idea to build a raised bed in the shape of an E with 4’ wide beds, 2’ wide walkways. Easy to work all sides.


THAT struggle is real for me. Yesterday, working in the raised beds killed my back. Extended periods of bending, reaching suuuuuucks for me. In my world, everything would be 5’ high and beds no wider than 18” up
If I ever build or re-do my bathroom, my sing is getting lifted a foot or more.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
Originally Posted by Stevarino
Who knows.. maybe 6-8 years? I’ll probably stain and seal the outside late summer. Just didn’t want to do it right before planting.. I hope it lasts long enough for lumber prices to come back down.


I did mine with 20 inch by 20 inch concrete blocks. They each bolt together. I have the molds to do 5 at a time if the lumber prices stay high cheers
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What kind of steel and/or hardware is involved with that? And is said hardware incorporated as you pour? This idea is awesome
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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
Originally Posted by Stevarino
Who knows.. maybe 6-8 years? I’ll probably stain and seal the outside late summer. Just didn’t want to do it right before planting.. I hope it lasts long enough for lumber prices to come back down.


I did mine with 20 inch by 20 inch concrete blocks. They each bolt together. I have the molds to do 5 at a time if the lumber prices stay high cheers
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Dang, those are fancy. High class gardening lol.. nice work!
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
I really think I’m gonna do something similar to this. These blocks been around a minute but I just noticed them this week. I need to find me an area where they’re building a bunch out houses and scalp some boards for free. I won’t need anything past 4 foot long 2X6
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You could drain a retirement account building a few of those right now.
If you have one of those habit for humanity resale stores, you might be able to pick up scraps that length cheaper than a big box.. wonder if you could salvage old fencing too
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Stevarino
North TX update. The rain has been good. Potatoes are probably a week or 2 from digging. Okra and squash starting to look strong.



You can start grubbing to those potatoes and eat them now. Look for cracks in mounds.

If you leave the eyes in your taters they'll see you through the week.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/21 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Originally Posted by fredeboy
Originally Posted by Stevarino
Who knows.. maybe 6-8 years? I’ll probably stain and seal the outside late summer. Just didn’t want to do it right before planting.. I hope it lasts long enough for lumber prices to come back down.


I did mine with 20 inch by 20 inch concrete blocks. They each bolt together. I have the molds to do 5 at a time if the lumber prices stay high cheers
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What kind of steel and/or hardware is involved with that? And is said hardware incorporated as you pour? This idea is awesome


I had these brackets made by a sheet metal company, I used fiber reinforcing in all the concrete I poured for the last 40 years. I agree the idea is awesome and thought so when I saw the brochure 15 years ago from the Italian company that developed it.
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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/21 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Originally Posted by fredeboy
Originally Posted by Stevarino
Who knows.. maybe 6-8 years? I’ll probably stain and seal the outside late summer. Just didn’t want to do it right before planting.. I hope it lasts long enough for lumber prices to come back down.


I did mine with 20 inch by 20 inch concrete blocks. They each bolt together. I have the molds to do 5 at a time if the lumber prices stay high cheers
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What kind of steel and/or hardware is involved with that? And is said hardware incorporated as you pour? This idea is awesome


I had these brackets made by a sheet metal company, I used fiber reinforcing in all the concrete I poured for the last 40 years. I agree the idea is awesome and thought so when I saw the brochure 15 years ago from the Italian company that developed it.
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Ok that’s freakin awesome
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/21 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by GasGuzzler
I have never had such good luck with radishes. These are only a hint of spicy, not woody in any way, and are as crisp and juicy as an apple. They are "Chef's Kiss" and I highly recommend them. In the background you will see my hand plowed garden I composted and mixed the soil for. Retiring from little league baseball (mostly) and getting rid of my chickens gave me time and room to take care of a garden again and take better care of my St. Augustine. We are growing onions from slips plus radishes, lettuce, kale, carrots, and some others from seeds, as well as tomatoes and peppers from starter plants. My biggest tomato plants are volunteers from my compost. I have a small house on a 1/4 acre lot in town just doing my best.]

Nice! Will have to try them.
Turnips grow real good up here too - I have some that are great eating, and a ton of seed- may have to track you down and get you some before fall ( best time for them).

My dad used to grow a lot of turnips over in Grayson County (he's had foot trouble the last two years) and my wife loves them. I am not a fan myself.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/21 11:34 AM

One of my first threads on THF.
Posted By: GNTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/21 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by Stevarino
North TX update. The rain has been good. Potatoes are probably a week or 2 from digging. Okra and squash starting to look strong.
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When did you plant your potatoes? This is my first attempt ever and I got mine in on March 1st. Says 120 days but I am starting to see some yellowing leaves on my red norland plants. What should I be looking for before I dig them out? Thanks.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/21 05:34 PM

You will see a small raised cracked areas. Gently brush some of the garden soil aside. Pick a few if they are golf ball size.
Posted By: GNTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/21 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
You will see a small raised cracked areas. Gently brush some of the garden soil aside. Pick a few if they are golf ball size.


Thanks. I will watch for that. Reason I asked Stevarino is because I’m just down the road so I have had pretty much the same weather and rainfall.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/21 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by GNTX
Originally Posted by bill oxner
You will see a small raised cracked areas. Gently brush some of the garden soil aside. Pick a few if they are golf ball size.


Thanks. I will watch for that. Reason I asked Stevarino is because I’m just down the road so I have had pretty much the same weather and rainfall.


We plant late January, early February. Basically, we wait for the plant to die before digging but you can start to grub the ones breaking ground beforehand. We’ll plant around 8” deep and continue pushing dirt up on them as they break ground. Usually ready by mid May for us. Once they start blooming, they’re pretty close to dying off. These reds will average 8-12 potatoes per plant, but I’ve had years averaging in the 5-6 range when I didn’t test the soil. Before planting, I’ll test the ph, phosphorus, potassium, and nitrogen levels and add accordingly.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/21 06:02 PM

Experience is your best teacher. Thanks a bunch for posting.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/21 03:31 AM

So my big brother came over dangling tacos in my face and he made off like a banding today. Make me proud kiddos! Such a bittersweet moment. As he left, it hit me just how much dam work I’ve put into those little monsters. A true labor of love though, I have to admit. Plus-if y’all think I’m nuts about peppers or spicy, y’all ain’t seen nuthin. He’s nuts! Nuts I tell ya! Anyway, Godspeed Karl and friends. Until we meet again.
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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/21 03:32 AM

PS, you can CLEARLY see which one Karl is. He’s the baddest dude there.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/03/21 04:03 PM

Love peppers.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/04/21 01:28 AM

I have a little Squash starting banana
Out of the packet of seeds i planted, only 2 plants came up.and they're blooming. I went an bought more today to plant.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/21 01:42 PM

Things are coming along nicely. Love the color of the Purplegum Tiger Pepper and the Tycoon has set some tomatoes.

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/21 01:45 PM

You awe well on your way. cheers
Posted By: bobcat1

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/06/21 07:04 PM

Tomatoes, squash and onions( in a different spot). Watermelons, cantaloupes and peppers never came up.

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/21 04:38 PM

What's up with these?
One fell off the plant.. The other is hanging on. Does it have something to do with all of the rain?
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Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/21 04:52 PM

^^^^^^ Yeah could be botrytis. My strawberries have suffered from it with all the wet weather. I think its a fungal disease.
Posted By: Ziggybock

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/21 05:10 PM

Looks like you have a severe issue with White Fly's. Might need to implement some sprays of Safe Soap, best done in the morning. Planting some French Marigolds around the garden will also help repel White Fly's and other insects.

-Z
Posted By: swampthang

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/07/21 05:15 PM

Uneven watering and lack of calcium in the soil can also cause symptoms that look like that.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/21 01:33 AM

EVERY SINGLE ONE of my tomato's that are ripe or turning ripe look like this. crying Rotten. Is this what they call blossom end rot?? Never happened to me before.

What can I do about this?

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Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/21 02:01 AM

Looks like blossom end rot to me. I'm sure it has something to do with all of the rain and flooding we had last week. I read I need to add some calcium....
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/21 02:06 AM

Maybe Epson salts at this stage. I have seen successful second crops when nothing was done. I put a hand full of wood ash under each hill before I plant. Prevented it from the get go.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/21 02:07 AM

Yeah, that's blossom end rot. You can add some eggshells to get the plants some calcium. Don't fertilize them too much.

Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/21 02:50 AM

I've got lots of wood ash. Can also grab some bone meal or powdered milk for faster results from what I've read.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/21 11:59 AM

Do not overdo the wood ash. A single hand full does it for me.
Posted By: yotehater

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/21 06:08 PM

The pollinators are few and far between this year. Not many bees or butterflies around here.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/21 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by yotehater
The pollinators are few and far between this year. Not many bees or butterflies around here.


Some pollinate them with Q-tips. Mission is to reproduce. I think they will set vegetables if you simply leave them alone.
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/21 09:24 PM

Give up you'll never recover it'll get to hot, Go to the Farmers Market and cut your losses.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/21 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by NORML as can be
Give up you'll never recover it'll get to hot, Go to the Farmers Market and cut your losses.


Pessimist.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/08/21 11:14 PM

I'm stuffed. Nothing but a fresh garden salad to go with my pork for dinner tonight.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/21 10:43 PM

Green beans are Coming along nicely...
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Red serrano pepper according to the tag, plant is not looking good at all.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/21 05:13 PM

I pick them at first blush.

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Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/21 06:41 PM

My luck at gardening is about as good as my fishing, Thank goodness for the farmers market.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/21 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
I've got lots of wood ash. Can also grab some bone meal or powdered milk for faster results from what I've read.


Alfalfa pellets have calcium in them. Cheap and pretty organic too. A sack will last several years.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/21 07:10 PM

It's not luck.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/21 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Looks like blossom end rot to me. I'm sure it has something to do with all of the rain and flooding we had last week. I read I need to add some calcium....


I went back and found your garden pics. I see you're going in raised beds. I highly doubt your soil has a calcium decency. It the ability of your roots to update that calcium. Most of the time it's from erratic watering, Too little/Too much. I see you said you had flooding rains. That doesn't help. I see in your pics that your raised bed soil is very low. So your roots are probably using a lot pf your native soil as well unless you tilled all that up and amended it well. I don't know how well your draining is or soil type, but they could be sitting in waterlogged soil. If not, I would apply a decent layer of mulch and try and keep the best soil moisture consistency as possible. Your grow looks fantastic in the pics. I would pull off and trash any tomato that shows signs of BER. No use in letting the plant put energy into something that it does need to. If you are using a high nitrogen fert cut that back or out. I would do an application of Calcium Nitrate. Granted I just said to cut out your Nitrogen. This is one application when you will need it. Plus the amount you're adding isn't much and it's in the nitrate form. Calcium Nitrate is a highly soluble and readily available form of calcium for you plants.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/21 07:22 PM

I caught a break on the weather. There is a difference in a light frost and a hard killing frost.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/21 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by skinnerback
Looks like blossom end rot to me. I'm sure it has something to do with all of the rain and flooding we had last week. I read I need to add some calcium....


I went back and found your garden pics. I see you're going in raised beds. I highly doubt your soil has a calcium decency. It the ability of your roots to update that calcium. Most of the time it's from erratic watering, Too little/Too much. I see you said you had flooding rains. That doesn't help. I see in your pics that your raised bed soil is very low. So your roots are probably using a lot pf your native soil as well unless you tilled all that up and amended it well. I don't know how well your draining is or soil type, but they could be sitting in waterlogged soil. If not, I would apply a decent layer of mulch and try and keep the best soil moisture consistency as possible. Your grow looks fantastic in the pics. I would pull off and trash any tomato that shows signs of BER. No use in letting the plant put energy into something that it does need to. If you are using a high nitrogen fert cut that back or out. I would do an application of Calcium Nitrate. Granted I just said to cut out your Nitrogen. This is one application when you will need it. Plus the amount you're adding isn't much and it's in the nitrate form. Calcium Nitrate is a highly soluble and readily available form of calcium for you plants.


If I remember correctly, he used miracle grow potting soil. I wonder what fert is in there.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/21 12:09 AM

I used the same miracle grow soil this year. Had the blossom rot on the first few maters. I pulled them off and put a handful of wood ash at the base of the plants. It seems to be helping, have a few more growing, no rot so far.
I have one plant that was listed as a container type tomato plant, it has not had any rot issues. I have 7 tomatoes growing on that plant currently.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/21 01:26 AM

I was wrong on my last post. It was brought to my attention that Skinner is growing in totes or pots and I thought he was but the raised garden pic threw me off. But its still the same issue. Same goes for you at 68rust as it sounds like you're growing in pots too. I see BER in container growing more than any other. Inconsistent watering/moisture stress is y'alls issue. In a nut shell. When a tomato plant soil gets dried out and you soak it down it pulls up all that moisture and bypasses the tomato on the vine and puts it those nutes into the leaves to rehydrate and grow. Consistent moisture level is your best cure. It's either the University of Iowa or Nebraska that has a good/simple write up on it. I'll find it an post it
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/21 01:30 AM

We got hammered with rain down here, blossom end rot was sure to happen. Pick and chunk, there'll be better days it's early.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/21 01:34 AM

I try to keep mine on a regular watering schedule. Especially since there was no rain in April. And yes mine are in containers also. Interesting that the one “container “ variety plant hasn’t had any BER issues. I’ll get the name of it tomorrow.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/21 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
We got hammered with rain down here, blossom end rot was sure to happen. Pick and chunk, there'll be better days it's early.


^This. Chunk and go. More to come.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/21 03:49 AM

Chunk and go. . . . try to hit a squirrel
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/21 04:09 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Chunk and go. . . . try to hit a squirrel

Just don't make one mad...aim to kill
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/21 04:21 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Chunk and go. . . . try to hit a squirrel

Just don't make one mad...aim to kill


Amen to that brother! I saw one creep in’ towards my tomato area the other day. A dart gun is on order
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/21 11:51 AM

Started on my ice-box pickles yesterday. They have to change a little more color before they go in the refrigerator.

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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/21 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
I try to keep mine on a regular watering schedule. Especially since there was no rain in April. And yes mine are in containers also. Interesting that the one “container “ variety plant hasn’t had any BER issues. I’ll get the name of it tomorrow.

I’ve had no BER issues with the Bush Early Girl variety. Have 7 🍅 golf ball and a little larger. Just waiting to turn color. The BiG Beef variety is what gives me trouble with BER. I have 2 nice sized 🍅 that are clean, with a few more newly sprouted. A couple already showing BER. bang lots of blooms, just not producing as well as last season.
Also have a few Park’s Whopper plants, they have been a disappointment. Tall and spindly, only 1 small 🍅 so far. Not many blooms.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/21 07:37 PM

Only One pepper from the Ancho San Martin pepper plant, and a few blooms on it.says ready to pick in 75-85 days.
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Water melons are a bit slow. One is starting to run, the others are sprouting good.
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3 small tomatoes. I put a little bit of woodash around each plant.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/21 08:11 PM

I like that sandy soil. Got any peas growing?
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/21 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
I like that sandy soil. Got any peas growing?

No peas. I thought about it...but went for green beans and Italian thick green beans
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/21 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Only One pepper from the Ancho San Martin pepper plant, and a few blooms on it.says ready to pick in 75-85 days.
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Water melons are a bit slow. One is starting to run, the others are sprouting good.
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Coming along just fine.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/21 03:54 AM

MUCH faster than my stuff Bill. There’s something to be said about actual sunlight vs grow lights. Of course, I did have that one minor hiccup of killing everything on the first try. bolt
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/21 03:56 AM

Next round of pot transfers happening soon. These babies are ready to rock.
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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/21 04:00 AM

up
Posted By: GNTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/21 04:02 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Originally Posted by TCM3
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Chunk and go. . . . try to hit a squirrel

Just don't make one mad...aim to kill


Amen to that brother! I saw one creep in’ towards my tomato area the other day. A dart gun is on order


I don’t have a problem with squirrels bothering my tomatoes. It’s the darn mockingbirds that love to peck at them when they ripen. I have to pick at first blush. I did use the holographic tape on year on the supports and that did a lot. Plus, I put an inflatable snake in the garden and moved it around frequently. Some have suggested hanging red holiday ornaments on your plants. When they peck those, they figure nothing there is real and move on.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/21 05:19 PM

Squash bloom
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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/21 03:50 AM

THAT . , . . Is one sexy bloom!
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/21 03:01 PM

Need som advise.
How far up the stalk on a tomato plant do you trim off the branches?
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/21 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Dalee7892
Need som advise.
How far up the stalk on a tomato plant do you trim off the branches?

I am doing mine about 12 to 18 inches and they seem to be doing well banana
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/21 05:54 PM

Looks great.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/14/21 06:32 PM

HD on Skillman for $10.98
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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/21 01:39 AM

Figs are Healthy and Delicious..... in case you didn't know..
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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/21 03:14 AM

Gone be a while before I confirm that
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/21 03:39 AM

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/21 03:40 AM

I just noticed the fig tree was in the car seat.... got to keep them safe!
rofl
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/21 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
I just noticed the fig tree was in the car seat.... got to keep them safe!
rofl


Don`t study bout it too much. He got it at a bargain.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/21 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
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It’s about time for the May flood.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/21 03:30 PM

Bring it. I put in one tomato plant late. It is called Big Bertha. Most of the tomatoes are cat faced.

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/21 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Bring it. I put in one tomato plant late. It is called Big Bertha. Most of the tomatoes are cat faced.

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WOW!!!!
That will make a good BLT....
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/21 06:09 PM

Pulled another one with BER. Got 2 big ones and 7 smaller maters just sitting there waiting to turn red. A few more smaller ones growing. I’m happy with my jalapeño bush, it’s coming along nicely. The rain should really give everything a kick start.
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/21 06:10 PM


cheers
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/21 06:33 PM

Nice tomato's... and toes... bolt
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/21 06:55 PM

68Rustbucket, have you fertilized them babies?
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/21 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
68Rustbucket, have you fertilized them babies?

I’ve fertilized twice in the last 6 weeks. The leaves just started turning yellow yesterday. I’ve also added a handful of wood ash at the base of the plants about 10 days ago. Pic of the fertilizer I got last year from the feed store.
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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/21 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Nice tomato's... and toes... bolt

Sorry about the toe thing. Dang small phone screen. bang
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/21 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
68Rustbucket, have you fertilized them babies?

He probably has... Not sure about the tomato plants though peep
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/21 08:53 PM

Now getting ready to make a tomato run in my neighborhood.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/21 01:01 AM

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/21 01:06 AM

Looking gooood!
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/21 01:12 AM

Nice! Looks like a jungle.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/21 01:18 AM

Look great. In spite of the shade.

I had a salad tonight with nothing but tomato. Have you ever?
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/21 01:33 AM

Yep. A little ranch and ground pepper on tomato slices.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/21 01:35 PM

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/21 01:38 PM

Pumpkin bloom.. Im interested to see if it will produce since the seeds came from a store bought pumpkin from last Halloween.
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/21 02:36 PM

The first yellow squash will be ready for harvest tomorrow.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/21 06:32 PM

nice slow drizzle here.... looks heavier down towards you, Bill
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/21 01:10 PM

How’s everyone’s succulent wolfpeaches doing?
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/21 01:31 PM

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/21 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Pulled another one with BER. Got 2 big ones and 7 smaller maters just sitting there waiting to turn red. A few more smaller ones growing. I’m happy with my jalapeño bush, it’s coming along nicely. The rain should really give everything a kick start.
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I would trim up all those tomatoes to increase air flow and keep those branches from being to close to the ground. During rain or watering it can splash off the soil onto the leaves and attach soil born disease to the plant. I would get them trimmed up and spray them down with Daconil or Serenade and making sure to spray underneath the leaves too.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/21 03:58 PM

I am now giving more tomatoes to neighbors than I am using for myself.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/21 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/21 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Pulled another one with BER. Got 2 big ones and 7 smaller maters just sitting there waiting to turn red. A few more smaller ones growing. I’m happy with my jalapeño bush, it’s coming along nicely. The rain should really give everything a kick start.
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I would trim up all those tomatoes to increase air flow and keep those branches from being to close to the ground. During rain or watering it can splash off the soil onto the leaves and attach soil born disease to the plant. I would get them trimmed up and spray them down with Daconil or Serenade and making sure to spray underneath the leaves too.

I didn’t trim, wanted to leave for shade on roots. Since they are yellowing, will go ahead and trim.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/21 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
I am now giving more tomatoes to neighbors than I am using for myself.

I’ve some that are just not turning, but are in good shape. 2 large variety and 7 smaller bush variety. My jalapeño bush has about a dozen peppers growing so far!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/21 05:40 PM

Pick those tomatoes today. You will not be able to tell the difference after they ripen in your kitchen.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/21 07:36 PM

Raining cats and dogs here.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/21 01:37 AM

Supposed to be here tomorrow too. Everything getting rained on got more fertilizer this evening.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/21 02:16 PM

Bacon/turkey club for lunch today.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/21 02:47 PM

Got a few green beans ready to pick. Just a large handful...
What's your preferred method of storage, until i get enough for a meal.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/21 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Got a few green beans ready to pick. Just a large handful...
What's your preferred method of storage, until i get enough for a meal.


First what not to do. Do not, not, boil them untie they taste like they came out of a can.

My preferred method it to blanch them a few minutes, pour them in a colander to dry them, then sautéed in butter with a little squeeze of limoncello.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/21 03:28 PM

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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/21 03:39 PM

Picked my first mater this morning. Just started turning yesterday, it came off the Bush Early Girl container plant. Have 6 more about the same size still. Not one of these on this plant has had BER. I Think it’s got something to do with the variety of plant. They are all in the same Miracle Gro soil and get watered the amount.
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/21 03:43 PM

That's what I'm talking about. cheers
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/21 03:58 PM

Picked our first cucumber yesterday - nice 8" long salad cuke - crazy too cause I planted starter just a few weeks ago, and plant only has like 7 leaves!
Marble size fruits now on most of my tomato plants (I pinch the first blooms off) - they are nicely established - 3' high and thumb-thick trunks.
Peppers having first blossoms - but lost a 'pimento' plant due to high-winds. Got 6" dia broccoli on 2 plants - ready soon.
Everything growing nicely with all the rain we've been having - just been too cloudy - need some sunshine!

I planted 2 lbs of small red beans 'manually' Sunday between rains, out in the back foodplot for deer/wildlife.
Figured with a week of rain might as well throw them out there.
$.89 for a 1lb bag at Walmart - already tested a row in garden, they germinated +90%, and I have 8" tall plants on test row now.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/21 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Picked our first cucumber yesterday - nice 8" long salad cuke - crazy too cause I planted starter just a few weeks ago, and plant only has like 7 leaves!
Marble size fruits now on most of my tomato plants (I pinch the first blooms off) - they are nicely established - 3' high and thumb-thick trunks.
Peppers having first blossoms - but lost a 'pimento' plant due to high-winds. Got 6" dia broccoli on 2 plants - ready soon.
Everything growing nicely with all the rain we've been having - just been too cloudy - need some sunshine!


You be the man Sunshine.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/21 11:20 PM

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/21 11:21 PM

You are almost there. I didn't make it out to my garden today. In the words of Margret Mitchell, "I'll study about that tomorrow and tomorrow is another. I swear that I will go hungry again.",
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/21 11:39 PM

Nahhhh. Just kiddin. That meme made me laugh tho. I’ve got pots. They drain well. I kept 5 and they’re kickin’ right along.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/21 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/21 12:31 AM

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/21 12:42 AM

Looking good
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/21 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Looking good
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/21 12:50 AM

Looks good BF, having any pest problems?
Posted By: CharlieCTx

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/21 01:43 AM

Ok boys, what am I doing wrong here…

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This is all new, put out right after the last freeze. I have tomatoes with really no blooms, Cucumbers that are SLOWLY growing, blooms, but nothing growing yet. Cantaloupe looks like it’s on life support. Corn is a mixed bag. But each container has one good stalk going, one not so good and one poor. I do have a couple of bell pepper growing and an almost mature banana pepper. Jalapeños feel like they’re growing slow in the container.

I mixed in some work casings a couple weeks ago. I think I’ve done two applications of a some kind of fish fertilizer in water.

I get about a half day of sun, garage to the East and trees to the west.

Thanks for the input.
Charlie
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/21 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
Looks good BF, having any pest problems?


Nothing to speak of yet. I’m hoping these praying mantis will hatch one of these days tho! Maybe I got a dud
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/21 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by CharlieCTx
Ok boys, what am I doing wrong here…

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This is all new, put out right after the last freeze. I have tomatoes with really no blooms, Cucumbers that are SLOWLY growing, blooms, but nothing growing yet. Cantaloupe looks like it’s on life support. Corn is a mixed bag. But each container has one good stalk going, one not so good and one poor. I do have a couple of bell pepper growing and an almost mature banana pepper. Jalapeños feel like they’re growing slow in the container.

I mixed in some work casings a couple weeks ago. I think I’ve done two applications of a some kind of fish fertilizer in water.

I get about a half day of sun, garage to the East and trees to the west.

Thanks for the input.
Charlie


I am not sure the sweet corn will pollinate.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/21 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by CharlieCTx
Ok boys, what am I doing wrong here…

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This is all new, put out right after the last freeze. I have tomatoes with really no blooms, Cucumbers that are SLOWLY growing, blooms, but nothing growing yet. Cantaloupe looks like it’s on life support. Corn is a mixed bag. But each container has one good stalk going, one not so good and one poor. I do have a couple of bell pepper growing and an almost mature banana pepper. Jalapeños feel like they’re growing slow in the container.

I mixed in some work casings a couple weeks ago. I think I’ve done two applications of a some kind of fish fertilizer in water.

I get about a half day of sun, garage to the East and trees to the west.

Thanks for the input.
Charlie

One of the varieties of tomato plants looks just like yours, tall and spindly. Out of the 4 of them I have one tomato that has been growing for about 5 days, and no BER on it. The other 3 now have blooms after the rain.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/21 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by CharlieCTx
Ok boys, what am I doing wrong here…

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This is all new, put out right after the last freeze. I have tomatoes with really no blooms, Cucumbers that are SLOWLY growing, blooms, but nothing growing yet. Cantaloupe looks like it’s on life support. Corn is a mixed bag. But each container has one good stalk going, one not so good and one poor. I do have a couple of bell pepper growing and an almost mature banana pepper. Jalapeños feel like they’re growing slow in the container.

I mixed in some work casings a couple weeks ago. I think I’ve done two applications of a some kind of fish fertilizer in water.

I get about a half day of sun, garage to the East and trees to the west.

Thanks for the input.
Charlie


Looks like you are lacking nutrients. 2 apps of fish fert isn't going to do much. Get a more balanced water soluble fert and apply it every two weeks.
Posted By: CharlieCTx

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/21 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by CharlieCTx
Ok boys, what am I doing wrong here…

This is all new, put out right after the last freeze. I have tomatoes with really no blooms, Cucumbers that are SLOWLY growing, blooms, but nothing growing yet. Cantaloupe looks like it’s on life support. Corn is a mixed bag. But each container has one good stalk going, one not so good and one poor. I do have a couple of bell pepper growing and an almost mature banana pepper. Jalapeños feel like they’re growing slow in the container.

I mixed in some work casings a couple weeks ago. I think I’ve done two applications of a some kind of fish fertilizer in water.

I get about a half day of sun, garage to the East and trees to the west.

Thanks for the input.
Charlie


Looks like you are lacking nutrients. 2 apps of fish fert isn't going to do much. Get a more balanced water soluble fert and apply it every two weeks.


Can you give me a recommendation on something?

Thanks
Charlie
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/21 06:22 PM

I'm not telling you what to do, I'm only telling you what I do. A single fist full of 13-13-13 almond with the same of wood ash. I work it into a hill of tilled garden soil and plant the tomatoes up to the first leaves.

Opinion again. Tomatoes are the easiest and tastiest vegetable in my garden.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/21 06:25 PM

Jacks would be a good one for you. Sold at Calloways. You could go with their Tomato feed or the all purpose.

https://www.jrpeters.com/fertilizer-for-fruits-vegetables
Posted By: CharlieCTx

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/21 09:20 PM

Thank you, will go pick that up now...

Bill, my dad always had huge gardens having been a farm boy. I had a couple small gardens in a rent house a long time ago that did pretty well. I didn't get squat out of my couple of plants last year (sans some Jalapeno's). All I really want from life right now, are tomatoes and cuc's from my garden! smile

Charlie
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/21 09:36 PM

Bullfrog is using Jacks with very good results. If anyone was going to screw up a garden it would be him and he hasn't so it must work great.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/21 09:48 PM

banana
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/21 11:00 PM

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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/21 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Bullfrog is using Jacks with very good results. If anyone was going to screw up a garden it would be him and he hasn't so it must work great.


Technically I did, but recovered nicely. Only 2 people know about that bolt
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/21 11:08 PM

It ain’t organic, but it seems to be the best of the non-organic you can get. Dissolves instantly too.
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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/21 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by CharlieCTx
Ok boys, what am I doing wrong here…
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This is all new, put out right after the last freeze. I have tomatoes with really no blooms, Cucumbers that are SLOWLY growing, blooms, but nothing growing yet. Cantaloupe looks like it’s on life support. Corn is a mixed bag. But each container has one good stalk going, one not so good and one poor. I do have a couple of bell pepper growing and an almost mature banana pepper. Jalapeños feel like they’re growing slow in the container.
I mixed in some work casings a couple weeks ago. I think I’ve done two applications of a some kind of fish fertilizer in water.
I get about a half day of sun, garage to the East and trees to the west.
Thanks for the input.
Charlie


Charlie - I'm about 45min north of you, and with all the clouds and rain we've had last two weeks, mine don't look much better than yours.
Mine gets full unobstructed sun from sunrise to sunset - haven't been getting enough direct sunshine, so I can't imagine yours doing much better than just struggling to survive.
Yours prolly has all the nutrition they need - just can't make fruit without lotsa direct sunshine.
It's also been fairly cool north DFW last couple weeks - that too slows the corn/tomatoes/peppers.
Hang tight - the Texas sun will eventually stop hiding!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/21 11:54 PM

TLC can make a difference. I give mine a big hug and kiss.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/21 12:32 AM

so last week I was crying because I lost my pimento pepper, snapped over in high winds...

well, - now for the 'rest of the story'...


I stared at it a second, the stem was even hollow, but I stood it back up straight,
the stem was still like 'hinged',
so I propped it back up with planter - just wishing it hadn't snapped.




fast forward a couple days and I pass by it, leaves all wilting away, sighing 'yep, it's gone....' frown





So I go out today, and I'm like 'what the heck"? shocked





Thar she is, standing tall as ever, several pretty green leaves on top,
and even some 'berries' starting to dangle . . .


The stem is mostly fused back together (tested it)



Bam - Oldoak, the pimiento pepper resurrecter! grin


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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/21 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
TLC can make a difference. I give mine a big hug and kiss.


Mine like a little dirty talk. They told me
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/21 12:57 AM

That’s awesome Oadoak! I had a couple small ones that got completely hammered with the runoff over the garage during a rain. I nursed it from seed, transplanted it, gave it a name and put it outside where I thought I was protecting it. Little did I know I was putting it on the front line.

Since then, he still looks a little rough, but is getting stronger every day. Long live . . . . The Donkey!
Then vs now
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Posted By: CharlieCTx

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/21 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000

Charlie - I'm about 45min north of you, and with all the clouds and rain we've had last two weeks, mine don't look much better than yours.
Mine gets full unobstructed sun from sunrise to sunset - haven't been getting enough direct sunshine, so I can't imagine yours doing much better than just struggling to survive.
Yours prolly has all the nutrition they need - just can't make fruit without lotsa direct sunshine.
It's also been fairly cool north DFW last couple weeks - that too slows the corn/tomatoes/peppers.
Hang tight - the Texas sun will eventually stop hiding!


I’m thinking/hoping the lack of real sun is slowing things down. I did apply my Jack’s this PM, so I’m sure they’ll be perky and full of life in the AM! wink

Charlie
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/21 01:16 AM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
[quote=CharlieCTx]Ok boys, what am I doing wrong here…
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This is all new, put out right after the last freeze. I have tomatoes with really no blooms, Cucumbers that are SLOWLY growing, blooms, but nothing growing yet. Cantaloupe looks like it’s on life support. Corn is a mixed bag. But each container has one good stalk going, one not so good and one poor. I do have a couple of bell pepper growing and an almost mature banana pepper. Jalapeños feel like they’re growing slow in the container.
I mixed in some work casings a couple weeks ago. I think I’ve done two applications of a some kind of fish fertilizer in water.
I get about a half day of sun, garage to the East and trees to the west.
Thanks for the input.
Charlie


I'm growing volunteer tomatoes in a low light situation and they are doing a ton better than his. He mentioned he planted right after the last freeze which was 4/20. Just a tad over 4 weeks ago. His plants should be rocking 4 weeks later. I don't know what soil he used, but I'm willing to bet his issue is NPK and likely a high Ph soil with the little growth and so pale. Every other week feedings of Jacks will get him where he needs to be, wetting the leaves with it too. That said that bed will be a hot mess when they do take off. Way to many plants too close together. Squash alone will cover that bed.

Here is a 4 week difference. Cucumbers 4/20 prior to when I covered them from the freeze and today.

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Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/21 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
That’s awesome Oadoak! I had a couple small ones that got completely hammered with the runoff over the garage during a rain. I nursed it from seed, transplanted it, gave it a name and put it outside where I thought I was protecting it. Little did I know I was putting it on the front line.
Since then, he still looks a little rough, but is getting stronger every day. Long live . . . . The Donkey!
Then vs now

Oh yeah - that one will come back strong with all those roots!

I guess mine 'grafted' itself back together.
I haven't ever grafted anything yet before but will have to start trying to soon - I have lotsa native sand-plums growning on this property that my 100-yr old aunt said 'those make great rootstock for grafting peaches onto'.
I also have lotsa small 1" caliper native pecan trees popping up everywhere - will have to soon try grafting some 'paper-shell jumbo' trimmings onto them and give it a go.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/21 01:28 AM

These are my low light tomatoes. I dumped my plants on the side of the house last year for a bit before I hauled them off. The left over tomato are poppin. They get like 4 hours of morning sun. And they get Oxner Triple 13 every 2 weeks when I fertilize the lawn. Will be fun to see how they turn out.
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Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/21 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
I'm growing volunteer tomatoes in a low light situation and they are doing a ton better than his. He mentioned he planted right after the last freeze which was 4/20. Just a tad over 4 weeks ago. His plants should be rocking 4 weeks later. I don't know what soil he used, but I'm willing to bet his issue is NPK and likely a high Ph soil with the little growth and so pale. Every other week feedings of Jacks will get him where he needs to be, wetting the leaves with it too. That said that bed will be a hot mess when they do take off. Way to many plants too close together. Squash alone will cover that bed.

Here is 4 week difference. Cucumbers 4/20 prior to when I covered them from the freeze and today.

Originally Posted by Derek
These are my low light tomatoes. I dumped my plants on the side of the house last year for a bit before I hauled them off. The left over tomato are poppin. They get like 4 hours of morning sun. And they get Oxner Triple 13 every 2 weeks when I fertilize the lawn. Will be fun to see how they turn out.


oh yeah, those took off!
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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/21 05:02 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Originally Posted by bill oxner
TLC can make a difference. I give mine a big hug and kiss.


Mine like a little dirty talk. They told me


"Honey, that guy across the street is talking to his peppers again...."
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/21 03:18 PM

Every time I walk by my jalapeño bush there seems to be more spouts, and the ones growing seem to be bigger. I can’t wait to pick one! I’ll be grilling it inside a bacon wrapped quail.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/21 09:20 PM

That Big Birtha tomato plant didn't produce all cat-faced tomatoes and is now giving me the best tomatoes of the year.

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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/21 09:26 PM

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Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/21 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
That Big Birtha tomato plant didn't produce all cat-faced tomatoes and is now giving me the best tomatoes of the year.

Nice!
I've only got golf-ball size right now, but there is a lot of them!
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/21 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
That Big Birtha tomato plant didn't produce all cat-faced tomatoes and is now giving me the best tomatoes of the year.

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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/21 11:12 PM

My little goofy garden has started to make babies. 2 tomato plants and 1 of 2 Serranos. Derek convinced me of topping after that plant.
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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/21 11:14 PM

I’ll admit, I let 2/6 tomato plants go too long before caging them up. I thought they were done when they broke in the wind. They just shot roots and took off. I swear they both have a 6’ radius to all the limbs now. Lol. They’re experimental anyway so it’s cool to see what they’ll do.

My others that are caged and supported do look beautiful tho.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/21 11:37 PM

Nephew is over helping me pull onions.
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Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/21 11:41 PM

Derek, what type onion plant did you use? Those look great.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/21 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Nephew is over helping me pull onions.
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MY man!!!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/21 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by Dalee7892
Derek, what type onion plant did you use? Those look great.


Wow. Just wow.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/21 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Dalee7892
Derek, what type onion plant did you use? Those look great.


Wow. Just wow.


There are 100’s of onion varieties, aren’t there?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/21 11:56 PM

There are not many varieties that produced one pound onions.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/21 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by Dalee7892
Derek, what type onion plant did you use? Those look great.


These are Dixondale Texas Legends. I planted them last Thanksgiving Day. The key to onions is ammonium sulfate fertilizer every couple weeks. 21-0-0 and nothing else. 5 of us spilt a order last year and I'm the only one that stayed on a religious fert schedule. The other 4 peoples onions are 1/2 the size planted at the same time. The Dixondale guide even says to use AMS only.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/21 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Dalee7892
Derek, what type onion plant did you use? Those look great.


Wow. Just wow.


There are 100’s of onion varieties, aren’t there?


In TX you need to go short day onions. 1015Y is probably the most popular. Dixondale has those too and is what most feed stores stock. Same AMS program.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/21 01:09 AM

I no longer grow tubers for just one person, but 1015 was my go to when I did.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/21 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
I no longer grow tubers for just one person, but 1015 was my go to when I did.


Nothing wrong with 1015. I have some. I lost about 15 to the freeze week and replaced them them with DD1015, since that what the feed store had. They have exploded in growth and only in the ground for like 80 days or so. They're close to baseball size, maybe a tad smaller.

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/21 02:10 PM

I am not sure about the verity but I have had some very successful purple or red onions.
Posted By: GNTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/21 02:50 PM

Harvested my first potatoes the other day. Having never grown them before, it was great to finally get some.

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/21 03:51 PM

You don't have to peel them. Chop up some of the smaller one and pan fry them. Add an onion toward the end.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/21 04:11 AM

Ok Payne, ya jenxed me. Educate me on NEEM oil
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/21 12:34 PM

Bacillus thuringiensis
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/21 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Bacillus thuringiensis


Yep. That is what The Tree Doctor uses to spray my pecan trees. It is a powerful strong jet, but he turns a little magic button to get a mist. Hs has used the mist a couple of times on my garden cheers
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/21 01:42 PM

Interesting. Always seen the stuff. Never paid any attention. Well, now I am. Gracias seen yor!
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/21 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
My little goofy garden has started to make babies. 2 tomato plants and 1 of 2 Serranos. Derek convinced me of topping after that plant.
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Went on vacation last week and my little maters have exploded!! Fingers crossed
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/21 01:03 AM

Looks great.

Threads such as this one have done wonders for home gardeners with exchange of information. We had bitter cucumbers years ago. Haven't heard a word lately. There are many other examples.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/21 01:09 AM

Dang Fredeboy! Very nice!
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/21 01:10 AM

I really saying this but . . . .
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Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/21 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
I really saying this but . . . .
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YES PLEASE!! LOL
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/21 01:34 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
I really saying this but . . . .
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What he said. My tomatoes were looking really good and now they are wilted due to too much water. We have had 12.36" of rain this month and they don't like it much. I just looked and they are calling for around 1/2" of rain on Tuesday.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/21 02:21 AM

never bad mouth rain in Texas
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/21 02:21 AM

Anybody use banana peelings or coffee grounds for your plants in the garden
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/21 03:47 AM

What a Month!!
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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/21 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
never bad mouth rain in Texas

It can be 2011 all over again, in a heartbeat.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/21 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
My little goofy garden has started to make babies. 2 tomato plants and 1 of 2 Serranos. Derek convinced me of topping after that plant.
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might want to keep a closer eye on what your plants are doing then....... peep
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/21 06:46 PM

Looks great. Keep on keeping on.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/21 08:05 PM

My tomatoes and jalapeños are loving the rain! Looks like it’s over here for a few days. Maybe the larger tomatoes will start turning.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/21 11:33 PM

80 keepers out of 8 plants so far. I’ll take a 10 per plant average any year. Still have a couple not quite ready plus the goldens. We’ll dig the rest in another 2 weeks or so.

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/21 11:36 PM

Your lucky day. cheers
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/21 12:26 AM

Congrats on the bumper crop!
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/21 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by Stevarino
80 keepers out of 8 plants so far. I’ll take a 10 per plant average any year. Still have a couple not quite ready plus the goldens. We’ll dig the rest in another 2 weeks or so.

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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/21 02:13 AM

Very nice Stevarino!!!

TCM3, I know right??? Lol

Thanks Bill! up
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/21 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by Stevarino
80 keepers out of 8 plants so far. I’ll take a 10 per plant average any year. Still have a couple not quite ready plus the goldens. We’ll dig the rest in another 2 weeks or so.

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That's a great pic!
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/21 02:16 AM

This whole experience does this big goober so much good! It gets the kids outside with me every now and then and I love it, when I’m not yelling at them to get out of something or away from something else. Lol.
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I tried to get him to smell the flowers. Didn’t work.
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Both acting goofy as always.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/21 02:18 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Stevarino
80 keepers out of 8 plants so far. I’ll take a 10 per plant average any year. Still have a couple not quite ready plus the goldens. We’ll dig the rest in another 2 weeks or so.

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That's a great pic!


Really is! I agree. Love me some new taters! Red taters. Whatever y’all call them. Those are dang good diced small for breakfast.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/21 11:43 AM

Thank you..
To be honest, we end up sacking up most and giving away. We’ll eat a few from the skillet and throw some in with a pot roast but we try to stick to low carb for the most part. The kids really enjoy digging them up every year and the neighbors like them too.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/21 01:04 PM

Woke up and there was this bright yellow ball in the sky and no water falling. Do I need to run the sprinklers yet? Asking for a friend
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/21 01:43 PM

Winner, winner, Bullfrog dinner. cheers
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/21 02:48 AM

Lost my 4th tomato of the year today..... blossom end rot bang crying 'twas a beefsteak too......
queue taps....


good article
https://www.canr.msu.edu/resources/blossom_end_rot_tip_sheet

i have tried wood ash around each plant, i put it out about 2 weeks ago. the plants look a bit greener but thats about it...
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/21 03:03 AM

Welcome to my world. I do have about 2 dozen on the plants now, but have lost at least 6 to BER. The rain has really helped, and I did use some wood ash. Also started using miracle gro fertilizer.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/21 03:15 AM

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Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/21 11:37 AM

That’s something you don’t see everyday
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/21 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
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Does the Peacock have a name? We need a live cam setup on it so we can get updates.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/21 02:15 PM

We had a local Rosenberg paper that published an article on a peacock hens. bolt
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/21 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Lost my 4th tomato of the year today..... blossom end rot bang crying 'twas a beefsteak too......
queue taps....
good article
https://www.canr.msu.edu/resources/blossom_end_rot_tip_sheet
i have tried wood ash around each plant, i put it out about 2 weeks ago. the plants look a bit greener but thats about it...


I did something new for me this year when I planted my tomato starters;
I put an egg/eggshells into the bottom of the hole before putting plant in.
We normally crumble eggshells around plant on top of soil, but I ran across the 'bottom hole' tip early spring just in time.
It helps that we have layers, and always tons of eggs, so just threw some old ones in.

It might actually be helping - all my plants only had green ones so far, but they all look in great condition.
We've been inundated with so much rain this last month I would normally be expecting problems.
Maybe those shells down by the roots dissolve slowly enough so that all the calcium doesn't get washed-away by all this rain?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/21 02:56 PM

No names, have 12 of them, they eat the ticks and grasshoppers. No webcam site, there's your update....
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/21 03:19 PM

Are they friendly? Will they let you pet them?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/21 03:26 PM

Friendlyish, they run as soon as you’re within ten feet. when I put out their food they’ll get about five feet away. Had a couple of white ones, one got snatched out of a tree by a bobcat the other died at five years old. Sticking with blues from now on, they live about 15 years, had one make 19.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/21 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by TCM3
Lost my 4th tomato of the year today..... blossom end rot bang crying 'twas a beefsteak too......
queue taps....
good article
https://www.canr.msu.edu/resources/blossom_end_rot_tip_sheet
i have tried wood ash around each plant, i put it out about 2 weeks ago. the plants look a bit greener but thats about it...


I did something new for me this year when I planted my tomato starters;
I put an egg/eggshells into the bottom of the hole before putting plant in.
We normally crumble eggshells around plant on top of soil, but I ran across the 'bottom hole' tip early spring just in time.
It helps that we have layers, and always tons of eggs, so just threw some old ones in.

It might actually be helping - all my plants only had green ones so far, but they all look in great condition.
We've been inundated with so much rain this last month I would normally be expecting problems.
Maybe those shells down by the roots dissolve slowly enough so that all the calcium doesn't get washed-away by all this rain?

Hmmm, i'll have to remember that
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/21 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Friendlyish, they run as soon as you’re within ten feet. when I put out their food they’ll get about five feet away. Had a couple of white ones, one got snatched out of a tree by a bobcat the other died at five years old. Sticking with blues from now on, they live about 15 years, had one make 19.

We used to see a few peacocks around here, once or twice a year.. no one knew where they belonged.... Even saw an Emu once that came from somewhere confused2
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/21 10:24 PM

My jalapeño bush is looking good! I’ve never grown any before, don’t know when I should pick them. Any signs I should look for? Will they only get so big? I’ve got a couple that are about 4” now.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/21 10:37 PM

The steam should break rather that pull of. Eyeball it also works.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/21 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
My jalapeño bush is looking good! I’ve never grown any before, don’t know when I should pick them. Any signs I should look for? Will they only get so big? I’ve got a couple that are about 4” now.


There is not a bad time to pick them. When they are fully ripe they will be cherry red and will have a richer flavor. pick them green and they will have a sharper flavor. They will usually get hotter when our weather gets hot.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/21 12:43 AM

Gracias!
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/21 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
My jalapeño bush is looking good! I’ve never grown any before, don’t know when I should pick them. Any signs I should look for? Will they only get so big? I’ve got a couple that are about 4” now.


yeah, pick those 4" er's now, and enjoy them. The more you pick the more they will produce.
I had just 1 plant last year, and it covered us up in pounds and pounds of jalapenos, all the way up till 1st freeze in November!
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/21 12:14 AM

Thanks!
I’ll pick a couple mañana.
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/21 12:34 AM

I have not kept up with this topic. All my lettuce is out. I have volunteer tomato plants EVERYWHERE! Radishes still doing well, onions are too wet, carrots not so great, peppers are too shaded by turnip and carrot tops.
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/21 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
My jalapeño bush is looking good! I’ve never grown any before, don’t know when I should pick them. Any signs I should look for? Will they only get so big? I’ve got a couple that are about 4” now.

Give a slight tug. If it comes off, eat it. Sure that can be misconstrued. Bear with my naivete.
Posted By: yotehater

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/21 01:03 PM

Been getting about 3 gal of these Sweet Mammoth Sugar peas every couple of days. Man they're like eating green candy.

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Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/21 01:07 PM

Great looking sugar peas!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/21 01:13 PM


Orange tomatoes. What in my whole wide world. I'm sharing my garden with two neighbors. This row is shared by the younger couple.

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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/21 07:21 PM

Got my first 2 jalapeños!
Will put them on the grill with cream cheese and bacon tomorrow.
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/21 08:44 PM

Those peppers look hotter than a two dollar pistol cheers
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/21 09:18 PM

I remove the seeds and veins before loading with cream cheese and wrapping with bacon. I’m not that brave.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/21 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Those peppers look hotter than a two dollar pistol cheers


I think those will be just average on heat. My experience says the HOT ones will be a blackish tone with a scaling appearance on the outside skin. bolt
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/21 10:23 PM

I need to do something different for my squash plants.... they don't grow good, they stay fairly small, bloom, and produce fruit, but this is the second time a squash snapped off the stem when it gets about 3 inches long... and i think it's because the plant the and stems aren't growing big enough..... confused2
I;m sure it's a mineral deficiency of some kind...
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/21 10:28 PM

Check for squash borers. They are difficult to kill. They bore in close to the ground. I have had some success with covering the stalk withe garden soil, thus growing new roots.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/21 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
I need to do something different for my squash plants.... they don't grow good, they stay fairly small, bloom, and produce fruit, but this is the second time a squash snapped off the stem when it gets about 3 inches long... and i think it's because the plant the and stems aren't growing big enough..... confused2
I;m sure it's a mineral deficiency of some kind...


It may just be all this rain and cloudy weather.
My plants are hanging on - the only thing loving all this swampy rain is the weeds! mad

I went ahead and re-seeded okra yesterday - I guess I planted it too early for sure.
It didn't like this cool swampy weather for last 2 months - most plants stunted and died.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/02/21 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by TCM3
I need to do something different for my squash plants.... they don't grow good, they stay fairly small, bloom, and produce fruit, but this is the second time a squash snapped off the stem when it gets about 3 inches long... and i think it's because the plant the and stems aren't growing big enough..... confused2
I;m sure it's a mineral deficiency of some kind...


It may just be all this rain and cloudy weather.
My plants are hanging on - the only thing loving all this swampy rain is the weeds! mad

I went ahead and re-seeded okra yesterday - I guess I planted it too early for sure.
It didn't like this cool swampy weather for last 2 months - most plants stunted and died.


I have already replanted my okra twice and they all stunted and died also. All my squash look like hell also
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/02/21 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
I need to do something different for my squash plants.... they don't grow good, they stay fairly small, bloom, and produce fruit, but this is the second time a squash snapped off the stem when it gets about 3 inches long... and i think it's because the plant the and stems aren't growing big enough..... confused2
I;m sure it's a mineral deficiency of some kind...


Could be lack of pollination. Squash will automatically produce fruit and grow to about your length. If it doesn't get properly pollinated it will pop off or shrivel up and die. About the first 3 weeks or so when my squash start blooming I have to hand pollinate them every morning from lack of bee activity. After that my cucumbers and flowerbeds are blooming and attracting the bees. Bees are now on my squash every morning by 7am and I'm good. Squash are heavy feeders too. They use up a lot of Nitrogen and Potassium.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/21 01:52 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by TCM3
I need to do something different for my squash plants.... they don't grow good, they stay fairly small, bloom, and produce fruit, but this is the second time a squash snapped off the stem when it gets about 3 inches long... and i think it's because the plant the and stems aren't growing big enough..... confused2
I;m sure it's a mineral deficiency of some kind...


Could be lack of pollination. Squash will automatically produce fruit and grow to about your length. If it doesn't get properly pollinated it will pop off or shrivel up and die. About the first 3 weeks or so when my squash start blooming I have to hand pollinate them every morning from lack of bee activity. After that my cucumbers and flowerbeds are blooming and attracting the bees. Bees are now on my squash every morning by 7am and I'm good. Squash are heavy feeders too. They use up a lot of Nitrogen and Potassium.

up didn't think of that... i've got a couple more plants that are about to bloom... i will try to hand pollinate them and we'll see what happens.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/21 01:52 AM

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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/21 02:39 AM

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Anybody grow fall maters? I got inspired I guess from a woman on Instagram. I’ve currently got 53 plants of 5 varieties started. eek2

Not sure if this will work but what the heck. Planning to transplant about 7/4. Now the question is where the heck I’m going to put them. roflmao
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/21 11:55 AM

I have planted them and got mixed results. I generally have volunteers on the south side of my house which do much do much better. Good luck.
Posted By: yotehater

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/21 02:08 PM

My okra is coming along slowly. Just a couple of pickings of it so far but lots of new blossoms. The squash, zucchini, and snow peas are being enjoyed by friends and neighbors along with putting some up in the freezer. The bell peppers and tangerine dreams are making and the container corn is looking remarkably like it is gonna make ears. At least the pollen and silk are trying. Onions are doing well too.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/21 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Cow_doc.308
Anybody grow fall maters? I got inspired I guess from a woman on Instagram. I’ve currently got 53 plants of 5 varieties started. eek2
Not sure if this will work but what the heck. Planning to transplant about 7/4. Now the question is where the heck I’m going to put them. roflmao

I usually keep my 'spring' tomato plants alive (drip irrigation) thru the hot summer - they start producing abundantly once it cools off a bit.
We often pull & 'wrap' the bigger green tomato's before the 1st freeze - and un-wrap red/ripe all the way till December!
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/21 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by Cow_doc.308
Anybody grow fall maters? I got inspired I guess from a woman on Instagram. I’ve currently got 53 plants of 5 varieties started. eek2
Not sure if this will work but what the heck. Planning to transplant about 7/4. Now the question is where the heck I’m going to put them. roflmao

I usually keep my 'spring' tomato plants alive (drip irrigation) thru the hot summer - they start producing abundantly once it cools off a bit.
We often pull & 'wrap' the bigger green tomato's before the 1st freeze - and un-wrap red/ripe all the way till December!

Explain the “wrapping” process
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/21 03:44 PM

wrap them in a newspaper then store them in a dark spot, box in a closet works for me, then check on them until they're ripe.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/21 03:44 PM

I plant my seeds directly in the ground and am good to go. I back that up by throwing whole damaged tomatoes in my compost pile.

I also do what Payne suggested. I put the wrapped tomatoes in a paper sack and put the sack in a dark cool pantry.
Posted By: GNTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/21 07:58 PM

My spinach is struggling. I think it’s due to all the rain and they were waterlogged for several days. Hopefully they will come out of it. I gave them a dose of Chilean Nitrate fertilizer last evening.

A few weeks ago, I harvested some of my Red Norland potatoes. First time I have ever grown potatoes. Most of these were right below the soil line so I grabbed them and left the plants in place to hopefully produce more. Starting to get some tomatoes now too. Corn is about to tassel. Celery plant has flower heads all over. I’m about to have all the celery seed I could ever need.

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Posted By: yotehater

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/21 10:28 PM

Good looking new potatoes. I might have to have some green tomatoes to eat any of them. Even my cherry tomato's are still green. The lettuce ran it's course and got tilled under. Broccoli has been holding it's own for a second harvest, but it doesn't like these warm days. It's starting to bolt. The TAMU sweet onions are getting close.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/21 11:28 PM

Patents does not seem to be one of your strong points. bolt
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/21 12:04 AM

My cute little Red Robin tomato plant. It probably won't hit 8" tall.
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Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/21 01:56 AM

i pulled my last onions 2 days ago, they did great. maters are so so, beets were good, radishs good, spinach good but done, squash and zuke not so good, too wet i think same with cukes. sweet peas did good. gonna plant okra soon if it drys a bit. peppers ok but look stunted. nothing really drowned out this year but i think i had too much rain at the wrong times. not bitcin though!
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/21 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
My cute little Red Robin tomato plant. It probably won't hit 8" tall.
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8" is plenty. Enjoy.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/21 02:15 AM

So anybody having to water their garden yet? popcorn
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/21 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Explain the “wrapping” process

Originally Posted by Payne
wrap them in a newspaper then store them in a dark spot, box in a closet works for me, then check on them until they're ripe.

^this.
we wrap each one separately, and place single-layer in a cardboard flat.
I usually put the several flats in my garage, where it is quite cool that time of year - just keep them from getting warm or freezing, and they'll last maybe 2 months or more.
Whenever you want a ripe tomato, just unwrap/rewrap them one at a time till you find a ripe-red one; I usually 'sort' them as I go, putting 'blush' ones in a 'ready soon' marked flat.



Originally Posted by TCM3
So anybody having to water their garden yet? popcorn

For the first time ever, I'm having to think about improving 'drain channels' , or setting up a drain pump!
Either that, or bringing in some carp, to help with the weeds! roflmao
Plants are doing fine in raised rows, but got water setting in channels in-between.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/21 02:35 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
So anybody having to water their garden yet? popcorn


roflmao

Edit: just to fertilize.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/21 03:10 PM

It’s so wet here there are mushrooms growing in my containers. Got another 1.25” yesterday.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/21 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
It’s so wet here there are mushrooms growing in my containers. Got another 1.25” yesterday.


Get a blow dryer.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/21 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
It’s so wet here there are mushrooms growing in my containers. Got another 1.25” yesterday.


That's a good sign. Means your soil is healthy and active. Love seeing mushrooms growing in the garden.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/04/21 09:13 PM

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/05/21 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
It’s so wet here there are mushrooms growing in my containers. Got another 1.25” yesterday.


That's a good sign. Means your soil is healthy and active. Love seeing mushrooms growing in the garden.



Nailed it.

Also, beautiful day. I just made up another bath of ice-pbox pickles.
Posted By: yotehater

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/21 02:16 PM

Well, the sugar peas are about to run their course. The aphids are loving this rain. I'll let the next batch go to seed for next year. Love these heirloom varieties.
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The container corn is looking ok. just wet wet wet
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Another days pickins. Starting to get some baby carrots, tomatoes, and peppers now. Onions are so sweet. Those carrots are amazing kind of skillet grilled. yummo!
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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/21 02:18 PM

WOW! Looking great there, yotehater!
Posted By: GNTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/21 02:31 PM

Never thought of growing corn in containers. I have some Silver King out in the garden but I was a few weeks late planting and it’s just now starting to tassel.
Posted By: GNTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/21 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
wrap them in a newspaper then store them in a dark spot, box in a closet works for me, then check on them until they're ripe.


I have done this to ripen green tomatoes in the fall that I have to harvest before the first freeze. It you want to help them ripen faster, go to the store and get some fairly green bananas. Put one in the box with the tomatoes. Green bananas put off lots of ethylene gas which is what ripens the tomatoes. Tomato plants won’t put out ethylene gas at temps below about 55 degrees. The ripening occurs during the night time hours. Payne is spot on about keeping them in a dark spot for the reason I just mentioned. I like to use a plastic tub with a lid and I line the bottom with newspaper. Open it every few days to let excess moisture out or mold will form. I also turn the tomatoes at that time to keep them from resting on the same spot for a long time.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/21 03:22 PM

Winner, winner, green tomato dinner. cheers
Posted By: yotehater

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/21 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by GNTX
Never thought of growing corn in containers. I have some Silver King out in the garden but I was a few weeks late planting and it’s just now starting to tassel.


Nor I, this is the burpee's container corn so I thought it would be interesting if nothing else. It's looking interesting alright. Wouldn't it be neat to have sweet corn right off the porch?
Posted By: yotehater

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/21 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
WOW! Looking great there, yotehater!


thanks banana2
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/21 03:39 PM

Two things. Pollination and squirrels.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/21 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Two things. Pollination and squirrels.

Hey Bill, did you get some rough storms last night? saw a tornado warning down your way last night.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/21 04:02 PM

Good morning sunshine. Just got through mowing my yard.
Posted By: GNTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/21 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by yotehater
Originally Posted by GNTX
Never thought of growing corn in containers. I have some Silver King out in the garden but I was a few weeks late planting and it’s just now starting to tassel.


Nor I, this is the burpee's container corn so I thought it would be interesting if nothing else. It's looking interesting alright. Wouldn't it be neat to have sweet corn right off the porch?


Sure would, and I have access to pretty much all the containers I could ever use. So this is a special type for container growing. I will look into getting some.

As for pollination and squirrels that Bill mentioned, I know how to hand pollinate the silks and I know how to eradicate the other problem. Actually had rats chew on a few of my ears last year.
Posted By: yotehater

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/21 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by GNTX
Originally Posted by yotehater
Originally Posted by GNTX
Never thought of growing corn in containers. I have some Silver King out in the garden but I was a few weeks late planting and it’s just now starting to tassel.


Nor I, this is the burpee's container corn so I thought it would be interesting if nothing else. It's looking interesting alright. Wouldn't it be neat to have sweet corn right off the porch?


Sure would, and I have access to pretty much all the containers I could ever use. So this is a special type for container growing. I will look into getting some.

As for pollination and squirrels that Bill mentioned, I know how to hand pollinate the silks and I know how to eradicate the other problem. Actually had rats chew on a few of my ears last year.


Here's a link to it.

burpee on deck sweet corn
https://www.burpee.com/corn-on-deck-hybrid-prod003168.html
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/06/21 11:51 PM

You convinced me.
Posted By: GNTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/21 03:43 AM



Thanks!
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/21 06:26 PM

Happy to finally see a couple of weeks of sunshine in the forecast!
Got lotsa big green tomatos on the plants & been able to stave off blossom end rot thus far (thanks chickens for all the shells!)
Pepper plants all have small fruits - just need more sun!
Harvesting sweet--peas, dew-berries, and sandplums in earnest now, and a trickle of cucumbers & radishes just beginning.
Sweet-corn, squash, zucchini, and okra are all just barely hanging on, waiting for some sun and warm/dry weather.
Been able to keep squirrels off the ping-pong sized peaches so far - just need sun to grow them out and ripen.
Pecan trees are looking great - no disasters with them so far early this season - gott'em nicely fertilized and loving the rain.
Now the bad part- swamp rain has weeds so bad that roundup on a sponge-mop is my only hope!
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/21 06:42 PM

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/21 06:44 PM

Seems as if things are going your way. cheers
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/21 08:21 PM

Garden it coming along nicely. Tomato plants are loaded Serrano's and other peppers are poppin. Grass looks dead because I'm in the process of scalping it to get my cut height lower.

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/21 08:49 PM

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/21 09:25 PM

Beautiful Derek. cheers
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/21 09:39 PM

Bill that bigger tomato is Tycoon. By far my favorite tomato. Not easy to find. Sold through most HEB's and only seen them at one nursery. Try one if you see them. Thankfully I saw them at HEB in Austin this year and grabbed some. My HEB didn't stock any veg plants this year. frown
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/21 09:45 PM

Derek, where did you get those nice container borders at?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/21 09:57 PM

I've been very pleased with them. This is my third year with them. But they have been out of stock for a while everywhere. I'm assuming a covid backorder/shortage deal. They are stackable too if you want deeper beds.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Lifetime-4-ft-x-4-ft-Raised-Garden-Bed-3-Pack-60069/204703933
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/09/21 02:21 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Bill that bigger tomato is Tycoon. By far my favorite tomato. Not easy to find. Sold through most HEB's and only seen them at one nursery. Try one if you see them. Thankfully I saw them at HEB in Austin this year and grabbed some. My HEB didn't stock any veg plants this year. frown



Is this them? Might could order some seed. I might try some next year. I'm in Ennis too. We could split a pack of seed if you wanted.

https://paramountseeds.com/product/tomato-tycoon/
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/09/21 03:07 AM

Nice Derek! those peppers looking great too!





picked over a pound of dewberries this evening:
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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/09/21 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Nice Derek! those peppers looking great too!





picked over a pound of dewberries this evening:
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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/09/21 04:50 AM

Next year Derek . . . . . . Next year!!!!!!!!
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/09/21 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Cow_doc.308
Originally Posted by Derek
Bill that bigger tomato is Tycoon. By far my favorite tomato. Not easy to find. Sold through most HEB's and only seen them at one nursery. Try one if you see them. Thankfully I saw them at HEB in Austin this year and grabbed some. My HEB didn't stock any veg plants this year. frown



Is this them? Might could order some seed. I might try some next year. I'm in Ennis too. We could split a pack of seed if you wanted.

https://paramountseeds.com/product/tomato-tycoon/


That's them. I'll order them. I have a indoor grow system where I start them in winter. I'll start you some. I would have gotten lucky this year. The Greenery in Hachie had Tycoons this year.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/09/21 04:14 PM

Kind of you to offer.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/21 02:27 AM

Got another 1.5 lbs of the black beauties picked today:

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I should get at least a pound per day for next several days!
Blackberry cobbler tomorrow, and will probably be putting up some blackberry jam this weekend.

i've got about 75 feet of 'hedge' loaded up like this, both sides:
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Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/21 01:19 PM

Wow, that looks great old oak. I’ve got dewberries I’ve been fighting for years. I should probably just quit and enjoy the fruit. I saw a ton last weekend at Ray Roberts state park just as thick as those pics, but left them alone..

With all this rain, we’re steady picking. Squash plant has lost its dang mind. First time growing onions, but they did ok..bell peppers are doing pretty well too. They usually come out thin skinned for me, but these are close to store bought finally!
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/21 02:00 PM

Keep on keeping on. cheers
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/21 09:28 PM

I have had a wonderful yield of tomatoes. I actually made some tomato sauce today for spaghetti tonight. The problem is that the squirrels have also figured out what I have. There hasn't been a good tomato on the vine in 3 days. Just yesterday I saw a squirrel run across my back yard, up a tree and he stopped halfway to look at me. He had a tomato in his mouth like he was taunting me.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/21 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
I have had a wonderful yield of tomatoes. I actually made some tomato sauce today for spaghetti tonight. The problem is that the squirrels have also figured out what I have. There hasn't been a good tomato on the vine in 3 days. Just yesterday I saw a squirrel run across my back yard, up a tree and he stopped halfway to look at me. He had a tomato in his mouth like he was taunting me.


Pick them at first blues and let them ripen inside. You will not be able to tell the difference.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/21 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
I have had a wonderful yield of tomatoes. I actually made some tomato sauce today for spaghetti tonight. The problem is that the squirrels have also figured out what I have. There hasn't been a good tomato on the vine in 3 days. Just yesterday I saw a squirrel run across my back yard, up a tree and he stopped halfway to look at me. He had a tomato in his mouth like he was taunting me.

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Posted By: GNTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/21 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
I have had a wonderful yield of tomatoes. I actually made some tomato sauce today for spaghetti tonight. The problem is that the squirrels have also figured out what I have. There hasn't been a good tomato on the vine in 3 days. Just yesterday I saw a squirrel run across my back yard, up a tree and he stopped halfway to look at me. He had a tomato in his mouth like he was taunting me.


Pick them at first blues and let them ripen inside. You will not be able to tell the difference.


I have to do that. But in my case, it’s the mockingbirds that peck at them. Have used some various methods to scare them away, but a few always get pecked at.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/21 11:29 AM

Call up The Wizard Of Oz and his scarecrow.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/21 11:35 AM

Netting helps a little against those mockingbirds.
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/21 03:24 PM

I have an owl that I am going to prop up on the fence. See if that buys me some time.

BTW, shouldn't it almost be time for the tomatoes to stop producing from the heat?
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/21 08:03 PM

My tomato plants are just now hitting their prime. I had to use some twine to hold up a couple limbs, they got heavy on the end and twisted over.
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/21 01:31 PM

Bell peppers anyone?

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Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/21 06:34 PM

I see a BLT&BP in the not to distant future.
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/21 11:51 PM

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Picked some sweet corn and some sunflowers this afternoon.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/21 11:58 PM

The garden came in second place against those two beautiful children. cheers
Posted By: Biscuit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/21 12:15 AM

Beautiful
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/21 01:01 AM

Caught these sorry suckers munching on my tomatoes... What are they?
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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/21 01:14 AM

Asp?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/21 01:14 AM

Stink bugs, plant marigolds everywhere you have space in your garden next time. You can handpick them and drown them now. Looks like you have an aphid problem too, you can release some ladybugs to fix that.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/21 01:37 AM

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/21 01:38 AM

Please don't ever use sevin, it's killing the pollinators.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/21 02:12 AM

Thuricide for me.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/21 02:21 AM

Thuricide for stink bugs Bill?
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/21 02:57 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Caught these sorry suckers munching on my tomatoes... What are they?
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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/21 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by NORML as can be
Originally Posted by TCM3
Caught these sorry suckers munching on my tomatoes... What are they?
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Thank you... it's a tough time right now crying
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Posted By: GNTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/21 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Stevarino
Netting helps a little against those mockingbirds.


That was the first thing I tried several years ago and it didn’t deter them much. I have been using a large, inflatable fake snake for the last 2 years (move it around the garden frequently so they don’t catch on). Also got some of that holographic tape and tied on the plant stakes. They don’t like that noise and light reflections flickering on them.

I have heard of, but haven’t tried, tying red Christmas tree bulbs on the plants. Supposedly, they peck at those and when they aren’t real, they move on.

If they would just peck at one tomato and keep working on it, I wouldn’t care. But they peck at several of them. It’s my understanding that it’s not a food source, but a water source to them.
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/21 05:28 AM

Originally Posted by GNTX


I have heard of, but haven’t tried, tying red Christmas tree bulbs on the plants. Supposedly, they peck at those and when they aren’t real, they move on.




My grandfather tried that one year. I don’t remember the results though.
Posted By: ChrisG

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/21 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Cow_doc.308
Originally Posted by GNTX


I have heard of, but haven’t tried, tying red Christmas tree bulbs on the plants. Supposedly, they peck at those and when they aren’t real, they move on.




My grandfather tried that one year. I don’t remember the results though.


In my experience all the red ornaments in your garden only prompt people to ask why they are there.
The mockingbirds might peck at them but they still find tomatoes and strawberries.
I even started planting orange and yellow tomatoes but eventually they will find them.
I believe now there are three generations of mockingbirds that have been raised off my garden.
So until I can fully net my garden I plant for all of us.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/21 02:04 PM

Picked my first early girl tomato yesterday banana
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/21 02:12 PM

It wasn’t very early.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/21 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
It wasn’t very early.


Yep.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/21 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Picked my first early girl tomato yesterday banana

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We finally have a trickle of them coming in:
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/16/21 11:41 PM

Cobbler on the way. food
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/17/21 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Cobbler on the way. food

yup - first few pounds already been 'cobblerized'!
my kiddos been 'experimenting' with every recipe they can find.
I'm enjoying doing the taste-testing....: smile
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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/21 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
It wasn’t very early.

I know right.... False advertising on the name.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/21 08:24 PM

Anyone know where to get live ladybugs?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/21 08:27 PM

Lot of Nursery's carry them. They keep them in a fridge so you don't see them on display. You might call a few. I see there is some in stock on Amazon too.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/18/21 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Lot of Nursery's carry them. They keep them in a fridge so you don't see them on display. You might call a few. I see there is some in stock on Amazon too.

Thanks👍
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/21 11:29 PM

It's been a good season. The rain has stopped so I'm running the sprinkler.

Not going in the BlackBerry business yet but maybe one day.

Medium Rare tomatoes are turning out. They're good but the Beefsteaks are better in my opinion.

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/19/21 11:50 PM

Love pickles and stuff like that.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/21 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by Chickenman
It's been a good season. The rain has stopped so I'm running the sprinkler.

Not going in the BlackBerry business yet but maybe one day.

Medium Rare tomatoes are turning out. They're good but the Beefsteaks are better in my opinion.

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What’s with packing a firearm while in the garden, snakes?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/21 12:41 AM

Kill stink bugs.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/21 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
What’s with packing a firearm while in the garden, snakes?


Not worried about snakes. Besides, that a .308. I'm usually pictured holding or having a rifle nearby just to keep my left leaning inlaws guessing.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/21 01:13 AM

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Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/21 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by Chickenman
It's been a good season. The rain has stopped so I'm running the sprinkler.
Not going in the BlackBerry business yet but maybe one day.
Medium Rare tomatoes are turning out. They're good but the Beefsteaks are better in my opinion.

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Looking good! cheers

yessir, gotta watchout for those killer tomatoes! You may need backup! roflmao
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/21 02:42 AM

Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/21 03:28 AM

cman do you ever get twitchy and shoot one of the mannequins?
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/21 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
cman do you ever get twitchy and shoot one of the mannequins?


They identify as scarecrows.

I've had our electrical provider and a deputy in my yard at night. Both about lost their load when their light hit them up.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/21 02:04 PM

roflmao
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/21 07:00 PM

How much would it cost to add a “ff” to the “o” ? Or an “on” instead of the “-“? In my mind - is off. Not at stihl.

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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/21 07:07 PM

Think of it as IN or OUT.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/21 08:17 PM

they're international symbols for power, O is off around the world.
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/21 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
they're international symbols for power, O is off around the world.

thanks payne. sucks for the not so world traveled folks. ive never been out of the states.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/21 02:28 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Picked my first early girl tomato yesterday banana


Was a ruff week. I had it with all but 1 tomato plant and tossed them all across the yard in a tantrum.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/21 02:29 AM

gardening is supposed to be a relaxing hobby
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/21 02:32 AM

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/21 02:40 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Originally Posted by TCM3
Picked my first early girl tomato yesterday banana


Was a ruff week. I had it with all but 1 tomato plant and tossed them all across the yard in a tantrum.

#TLM
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/21 02:41 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
gardening is supposed to be a relaxing hobby


Pepper plants relax me. I’ll stick with those.

The tomato plants were a struggle in the pots. I should have listened to ya. I have one cherry tomato plant left. It’s supported beyond recognition and I won’t have to pick it up from the wind. Or worry about it attracting more dern bugs.

From now on, capsaicin is what I’m after
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/21 02:46 AM

You live and learn, don't give up. Even the smallest differences in location can make or break your garden. It's not a one size fits all hobby, take notes on what works for you
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/21 02:50 AM

If I do them again, they’ll be in the ground, in a garden, on acreage dang it. Lol
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/21 02:50 AM

Prolly have 35+ pepper pots so I’m still content.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/21 04:33 AM

All of my tomatoes are history. Between the wind and the rain it was too much. I know what to do differently next time though. Peppers are doing great.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/21 04:52 PM

My tomato plants look the worst I've ever had them (too much rain & clouds), but surprisingly they are throwing a ton of tomatoes, and some whoppers too:
(I do think the eggshells in the bottom of the hole really helped out - no BER and only a few bad tomatoes so far)
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My peppers were drowning too - they aren't much bigger than when I transplanted them couple months ago, but are still alive - and just a trickle of peppers.
Getting irrigation hooked up, as they'll make all summer and fall if I keep them watered.
Got lotsa watermelon & cantaloupe plants still alive- thought also still small from clouds/rain.

just a trickle of cucumbers so far - but enough to enjoy this:
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Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/21 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
(I do think the eggshells in the bottom of the hole really helped out - no BER and only a few bad tomatoes so far)

What works for me is alfalfa feed. It has calcium in it.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/21 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
My tomato plants look the worst I've ever had them (too much rain & clouds), but surprisingly they are throwing a ton of tomatoes, and some whoppers too:
(I do think the eggshells in the bottom of the hole really helped out - no BER and only a few bad tomatoes so far)
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My peppers were drowning too - they aren't much bigger than when I transplanted them couple months ago, but are still alive - and just a trickle of peppers.
Getting irrigation hooked up, as they'll make all summer and fall if I keep them watered.
Got lotsa watermelon & cantaloupe plants still alive- thought also still small from clouds/rain.

just a trickle of cucumbers so far - but enough to enjoy this:
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Another great marinated salad.

food
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/21 07:03 PM

I’ll be trying the eggshell trick next year. My jalapeño bush is the easiest thing I’ve tried to grow, i pick 3 and 3 or more show up after that.
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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/21 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
I’ll be trying the eggshell trick next year. My jalapeño bush is the easiest thing I’ve tried to grow, i pick 3 and 3 or more show up after that.
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Looks great. What variety of Jalapeno?
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/21 07:52 PM

The tag just says Jalapeño.
Was watering the tomato plants and noticed some foliage was missing. Immediately went into Tomato horn worm attack mode. Found 1 on my Early girl bush, 3 more on a a couple Big Beef plants. Then a small worm on a newly sprouted tomato. There was no damagage yesterday evening. I’ll get out the UV flashlight tonight and look for any I missed.
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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/21 08:54 PM

horn worm will make short work of your tomato plants, bt works wonders on them.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/21 09:40 PM

I’d just as soon pick them off, since I don’t have that large of a container garden. So far haven’t had to use any pesticides.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/21 09:49 PM

Keep an eye on your pepper plants too. Hornworms will hammer down on those as well.
Posted By: GNTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/21 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Keep an eye on your pepper plants too. Hornworms will hammer down on those as well.


Sure will. I’ve got pics to prove it.m haven’t had it happen in awhile though.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/21 10:32 PM

I’m sure those hornworms like anything green this time of year. I used to get them on some vines growing on chain link fence around the dog yard. They would clean those vines, then the dogs would eat them.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/21 10:33 PM

Fishing worms.
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/23/21 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Keep an eye on your pepper plants too. Hornworms will hammer down on those as well.

My wife was picking our Contender Bush Green Beans and found some on them. This is the first time I have ever seen them on beans, but like said above, anything green.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/23/21 01:15 PM

I’m convinced hornworms are sent directly from the devil
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/23/21 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
I’m convinced hornworms are sent directly from the devil

Evaluation. The catalpa worm.
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/21 04:38 PM

Can you touch one of those huge worm looking critters and not get hurt hurt?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/21 05:48 PM

They just look scary but they are harmless.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/21 06:24 PM

tell that to the millions of plants they destroyed this year

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/21 06:27 PM

lol. It is amazing how fast they can devour a plant. I plant extra dill and fennel for Black Swallowtail caterpillars you can barely see any damage from them being there. .
Posted By: yotehater

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/21 07:48 PM

Man, the On-Deck container sweet corn is amazingly sweet. So far every ear has been perfect and delicious. Broke in half to fit on plate.
The squash just keep satisfying too.
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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/21 08:12 PM

Corn looks perfect. Well done!
Posted By: yotehater

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/21 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Corn looks perfect. Well done!


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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/21 09:23 PM

Wish I could grow it. Dang tree rats.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/21 11:29 PM

Coming in about like this every 2 days. Bells and poblanos are still making.

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Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/21 11:30 PM

And first round of pickles are done

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/24/21 11:40 PM

I am a lover of pickles myself.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/21 04:23 AM

Well done Chickenman. Well done
Posted By: yotehater

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/21 01:09 PM

Nice pickles indeed. The only use for a cucumber.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/21 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Chickenman
Coming in about like this every 2 days. Bells and poblanos are still making.

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/21 01:33 PM

Peppers are rocking.
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Posted By: yotehater

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/21 02:06 PM

Looking good Derek.

The cherry tomatoes are popping, the vine ripe ones are the sweetest. Every time I walk by them I find more. A few baby beefsteak, odd shapes.
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/21 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Peppers are rocking.
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Cool. Oops hot.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/21 05:07 PM

Those peppers look scary!
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/21 06:49 PM

Are the top peppers a type of scorpion? They look like bonnets but they have the tail.

Second pic looks like either a reaper or a ghost.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/21 07:04 PM

The first one is a KS Lemmon Starburst. It's a cross between a MOA Scotch Bonnet and Bahamian Goat. Forgot to look at the name on the pot of the second pic, but pretty sure that's Dragon's Breath. I am growing a scorpion too.
Posted By: thomas_z71

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/21 08:07 PM

Question for the pros...how do you get your cucumbers to grow up and not grow 10' out along the ground lol. I was supposed to have a barn by now where these are so these were a quick let's get another garden going real quick before it's too late.
I've got what I thought was a decent setup and only when I physically entangle them will the stay up in the wire. I've gotten okra for the first time which my wife and I are thrilled about!!!

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/21 08:22 PM

make a trellis, I use t posts and a 4x4 panel
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/21 08:30 PM

Trellis is the way to go. Mine are like 2' x 6' that I stake next to each other. When they first start taking off with growth I'll weave them into some of the squares and then they will climb up on their own.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/25/21 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by yotehater
Looking good Derek.

The cherry tomatoes are popping, the vine ripe ones are the sweetest. Every time I walk by them I find more. A few baby beefsteak, odd shapes.
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That’s a nice haul! I’ve been picking tomatoes the past week or so. Trying to stay ahead of the mockingbirds. Serrano, jalapeno and bells are producing good. Growing Jedi jalapeno this year for the first time. Been impressed so far with it with the size flavor and more heat than most large jalapeños.
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Posted By: thomas_z71

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/21 03:47 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Trellis is the way to go. Mine are like 2' x 6' that I stake next to each other. When they first start taking off with growth I'll weave them into some of the squares and then they will climb up on their own.


Gotcha, i did that with one recently, these others are already so long I’m scared I’ll damage them. There’s nothing big on them yet, would that be worth a try? I have 4x4 cages around them, just for some reason 80% of it stays low to the ground.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/21 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Prolly have 35+ pepper pots so I’m still content.


Make that 41 in 3gal pots with 11 still in 4” starter pots, ready to be transplanted. Daddy needs dirt
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/26/21 11:41 AM

Is it dirt cheap? confused2
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/21 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Keep an eye on your pepper plants too. Hornworms will hammer down on those as well.

Just found one of those bastages on my pepper bush. Did a quick extermination.
Posted By: thomas_z71

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/21 05:35 PM

I have lots of ants on my okra, mainly the flowers, not so much the actual fruit. Is that normal? I've never had okra until this year.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/21 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by thomas_z71
I have lots of ants on my okra, mainly the flowers, not so much the actual fruit. Is that normal? I've never had okra until this year.

I had that same problem last year- ended up wrapping a strip of cloth around the trunk of each plant a few inches above the ground, then spraying the rag with Permethrin.
Worked perfect - doesn't hurt other insects, and only have to respray the permethrin after a hard rain, etc.
Also, make sure none of the old leaves are touching the ground, otherwise they'll take that shortcut.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/21 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by Derek

That’s a nice haul! I’ve been picking tomatoes the past week or so. Trying to stay ahead of the mockingbirds. Serrano, jalapeno and bells are producing good. Growing Jedi jalapeno this year for the first time. Been impressed so far with it with the size flavor and more heat than most large jalapeños.
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Wow- nice load there Derek!! That is a whopper of a Jalepeno!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/27/21 07:33 PM

Hand size. Big enough to stuff. cheers
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/21 04:14 PM

What causes tomatoe plant look wilted ?
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/21 05:02 PM

Heat. I’m watering mine and wetting tops 2-3 times a day.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/21 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Heat. I’m watering mine and wetting tops 2-3 times a day.


Yes sir. Everybody's big word of the day is, transpiration.
Posted By: bobcat1

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/21 06:55 PM

Mice or rats are eating my tomatoes even the green ones. I saw them running away one night when I hit the back porch light. What can I do?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/21 06:55 PM

Drip irrigation for me.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/21 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by bobcat1
Mice or rats are eating my tomatoes even the green ones. I saw them running away one night when I hit the back porch light. What can I do?


The peanut butter bucket traps work well. Supposedly they do not like peppermint. You might soak some cotton balls in peppermint oil and place them around your plant and see if the deters them.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/21 09:06 PM

Get a herd of cats and don’t feed them.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/30/21 03:48 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by bobcat1
Mice or rats are eating my tomatoes even the green ones. I saw them running away one night when I hit the back porch light. What can I do?


The peanut butter bucket traps work well. Supposedly they do not like peppermint. You might soak some cotton balls in peppermint oil and place them around your plant and see if the deters them.


Late night, NV or thermals on a suppressed rifle of your choosing sounds like the most entertaining method
Posted By: thomas_z71

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/30/21 07:45 PM

Not sure if you guys care but I found two mounds of ants near my okra bed that I handled with granules. There were many ants going up/down stalks and covering my pods. I sprayed an incecticide soap from HD on there and the ants died almost instantly. Flowers were bloomed this morning so I'm hoping as advertised the soap has minimal to no effect on the okra plants.
Posted By: GNTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/30/21 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by yotehater
Nice pickles indeed. The only use for a cucumber.


Some might disagree… lol

Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/30/21 09:12 PM

My garden is done for the year. Perfect timing. A dry spell is on the way and the thunder rolled.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/30/21 11:52 PM

Bet it ain’t Bill. Don’t let it go! Keep it going
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/30/21 11:53 PM

Rain here next week.
Posted By: TXHOGSLAYER

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/01/21 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Get a herd of cats and don’t feed them.


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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/01/21 02:14 AM

Originally Posted by TXHOGSLAYER
Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Get a herd of cats and don’t feed them.


up


And teach em to potty in the neighbor’s yards, I condone this message
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/01/21 03:05 AM

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Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/01/21 11:57 AM

My tomatoes are finished. I'm prepping the garden today to plant okra, peppers, eggplant. What else will do well in the heat of the summer in Texas?

For prepping the soil I was going to add compost where I had the tomatoes, any other advice?
Posted By: yotehater

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/01/21 01:34 PM

Melons love the heat.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/01/21 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
For prepping the soil I was going to add compost where I had the tomatoes, any other advice?


I like a blend of compost, garden soil, vermiculite, perlite, alpha pellets. I always have some 13-13-13 fert on had and will mix a little bit if that in,.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/01/21 01:39 PM

Peas like it hot and dry, this usually when they start maturing. Anybody growing any black eyed, or purple hulls?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/01/21 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Peas like it hot and dry, this usually when they start maturing. Anybody growing any black eyed, or purple hulls?


These have produced really well for me. About to yank the squash and plant some. I like them because they grow like a small shrub and not a vine type.

https://www.victoryseeds.com/cowpea_quickpick-pinkeye.html
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/01/21 02:25 PM

I like driving down to Luling and buying fresh frozen shelled purple hull and black eyed varieties.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/01/21 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by Dalee7892
What causes tomatoe plant look wilted ?

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Heat. I’m watering mine and wetting tops 2-3 times a day.

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Drip irrigation for me.

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
My tomatoes are finished. I'm prepping the garden today to plant okra, peppers, eggplant. What else will do well in the heat of the summer in Texas?
For prepping the soil I was going to add compost where I had the tomatoes, any other advice?

Originally Posted by yotehater
Melons love the heat.


Yup, on all the above; cantaloupes, okra, watermelons, and peppers love the heat.
I've gotten great cantaloupes last year with 'Hales Best Jumbo'.
They all keep producing like mad till fall frost, if you can keep them evenly watered.

Got 'drip' irrigation all setup again for this year- and a 'late start' having to replant melons & okra after an awful 2 cloudy/rainy months, but they are catching up fast:
For cantaloupes, watermelons, and cucumbers I put 2-3 plants per 'weephole' irrigated, and give'em space to run.
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- 3/4" on supply trunks, and 1/2" on row runs with 1/64 holes drilled per spacing intervals.
Been 'building' this collection over 10 years.
I love the pvc cause it's cheap & lasts forever, and with threaded ends you can configure and re-configure at will.

This year I 'upgraded' by adding in 1/2" valves and a short piece of hose for flex-connect, for each row, making balancing rows a cinch.
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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/01/21 04:26 PM

Nothing tastes better than home grilled hamburgers, with HOMEMADE pickles from a neighbor, and home grown tomato slices from your own garden on them...... drink7
My watermelon plants have been growing... one plant has 2 runners about 12 feet long circled up... small buds coming on....
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/01/21 04:34 PM

oldoak, I wish I had the room to make a garden like yours.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/01/21 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
oldoak, I wish I had the room to make a garden like yours.

Yeah - I started out at previous place 21yrs ago with 10' x 10' garden,
grew to about 15' x 40'
and we too spent 9 years wishing & looking -
but by then the kiddos were graduating and going off to college,
so that opened us up to finding a smaller/older home but with more acreage for the same budget in the area we wanted.
Bought this place in 2015 - no way we could afford just the land we're on with today's prices. Land rich, but house/cash poor. sick
Posted By: thomas_z71

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/01/21 07:56 PM

OLDOAK, when you say 1/64 holes in the pipe, does that mean you just drilled those holes in the pipe next to your plants where it will drip out?
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/02/21 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by thomas_z71
OLDOAK, when you say 1/64 holes in the pipe, does that mean you just drilled those holes in the pipe next to your plants where it will drip out?


Yep 1/64 - it more than drips - just limit pressure with valve or put a rag around it or it will spray 10' at full pressure!

I also use the gray 'electrical' PVC threaded ends (male/female) because they are much cheaper than the white -
especially a 10-pack (or 20pk) of the 1/2" - since this is a low-pressure project - they are just as HD as the white ones.
Also buying 10-packs of the 1/2" pvc sch 40 10' sticks is much cheaper than buying singles (at Home Depot, anyway...I think $22 for 10 sticks -vs- $2.91ea, if they're still doing that.)

I also put threaded ends on the 3/4" supply trunks - makes it easy to disassemble/move/reconfigure, etc.
Posted By: thomas_z71

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/03/21 04:14 PM

Thanks! When i finally build my permanent garden this sounds like the way to go!
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/06/21 12:16 AM

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/06/21 12:21 AM

Looks like a rainbow. cheers
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/06/21 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
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Looking good. up
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/06/21 07:40 PM

Also the grey pvc is uv tolerant
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/07/21 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
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What kind are those?
Posted By: Biscuit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/21 01:35 AM

My wife is trying her hand at peppers for the first time. What’s going on here ?

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/21 01:20 PM

Looks like Anthracnose. Treat with Daconil. 2 tsp in a gallon pump up sprayer. Apply it 7 days apart. A couple applications and you should be good.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/21 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Looks like Anthracnose. Treat with Daconil. 2 tsp in a gallon pump up sprayer. Apply it 7 days apart. A couple applications and you should be good.

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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/21 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
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What kind are those?


I think Jamaican Reds. So far, the first 3 have had 0 heat. I’m gonna start stressing it now, as if I haven’t enough yet. See how it’s laying over? I gave up staking that one. It kept growing so I left it alone. We’ll see. All the other peppers’ heat is on point. I can’t believe how stout the serranos, japs and pequins are.
Posted By: Biscuit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/08/21 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Looks like Anthracnose. Treat with Daconil. 2 tsp in a gallon pump up sprayer. Apply it 7 days apart. A couple applications and you should be good.


Thank you sir
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/10/21 08:15 PM

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/10/21 09:18 PM

Pickles and BLT on the way.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/11/21 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by Chickenman


flehan up

loving 'mater season!
Enjoying a bowl right now:
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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/13/21 03:35 PM

Peppers are rocking. I've got a lot of these in pots. I'm not a big potted plant guy, but figured out that if you give them more afternoon shade the better they will do. Most of my pots are loaded down with peppers except the Naga Beast Carmel and Dragon Breath. They have a ton of blooms right now but slow to produce. I've switched to a different fertilizer mix I'm going to test out for the rest of the season for the potted plants. I've kept the pots behind the taller plants in the raised beds where they get morning through early afternoon sun then shaded by the taller plants in the beds. And as a guy they keeps a pretty well maintained lawn just sitting these buy the fence and not keeping the area up was driving me crazy. So I moved them out to let the area dry up a little so I can mow and weedeat it then I'll move them back. And the tomatoes are still rocking.

Going top left to right.

Purple Gum
Black Mama
Chocolate Hand Gernade
KS Lemon Starburst
Chocolate Scotch Bonnet
Naga Beast Carmel
7 Pot Grave Digger
Yellow Fever
Hurt Berry
Stuffing Scotch Bonnet
Dragon Breath

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/13/21 03:51 PM

Regular .smorgasbord. .
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/13/21 07:15 PM

Chocolate Scotch Bonnet has been quoted as the best pepper to cook with. If you have some seeds to share then I'd sure appreciate some. Those KS Lemon Starburst look cool too. Nice collection.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/13/21 07:42 PM

I'll look tonight and see if I have any. Trying the KS tonight. I'm excited about that one.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/13/21 10:22 PM

well i forgot to take a picture, but my Lime tree that froze in the cold blast, is now sending up 2 or 3 little shoots from the stob sticking out of the ground about 2".. i thought it was a goner! banana2 banana
i also have one growing in a pot from one of the seeds.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/13/21 10:23 PM

I could stare at those all day man.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/14/21 02:24 AM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
Chocolate Scotch Bonnet has been quoted as the best pepper to cook with. If you have some seeds to share then I'd sure appreciate some. Those KS Lemon Starburst look cool too. Nice collection.


Tried the KS tonight. It was fantastic. Scotch Bonnet heat, but more of citrus flavor, vs the SB floral. Heat was intense, but only lasted a few minutes. It's a good.
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/18/21 01:30 AM

Derek, you are making me want to go all out again on peppers. This year I toned it down to bells, jalapenos, chilis pequin, habaneros and just planted a ghost pepper. The habs have been doing great and I can eat those raw now so we will see what the ghost can do.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/18/21 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Peppers are rocking. I've got a lot of these in pots. I'm not a big potted plant guy, but figured out that if you give them more afternoon shade the better they will do. Most of my pots are loaded down with peppers except the Naga Beast Carmel and Dragon Breath. They have a ton of blooms right now but slow to produce. I've switched to a different fertilizer mix I'm going to test out for the rest of the season for the potted plants. I've kept the pots behind the taller plants in the raised beds where they get morning through early afternoon sun then shaded by the taller plants in the beds. And as a guy they keeps a pretty well maintained lawn just sitting these buy the fence and not keeping the area up was driving me crazy. So I moved them out to let the area dry up a little so I can mow and weedeat it then I'll move them back. And the tomatoes are still rocking.

Going top left to right.

Purple Gum
Black Mama
Chocolate Hand Gernade
KS Lemon Starburst
Chocolate Scotch Bonnet
Naga Beast Carmel
7 Pot Grave Digger
Yellow Fever
Hurt Berry
Stuffing Scotch Bonnet
Dragon Breath

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Those peppers look fantastic!
Pots were the way to go this year- rain really ruined my spring garden this year, and my peppers drowned, even on raised rows.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/18/21 02:33 AM

Having a little better luck with summer garden.
Peaches coming in nicely now - the ones on the right are huge, a different kind!:
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Cantaloupes & Melons are loving the heat, and are finally coming along:
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Cukes & summer squash coming in nicely now too: (the short/fat ones became refrigerator pickles - thx Bill!! )
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/18/21 11:35 AM

Wow. Just wow. Pure greatness. cheers
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/19/21 03:12 PM

Not a baby anymore. It’s a man. . . . man!
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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/19/21 03:15 PM

Can’t even begin to describe how happy this makes me! About this many every other day so far
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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/19/21 03:16 PM

NOwhere near y’all’s bounties but they’re starting to do work
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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/19/21 03:20 PM

clap
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/19/21 05:22 PM

Those little chilis will light you up!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/19/21 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
Those little chilis will light you up!



Hotter than a two pistol.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/19/21 10:41 PM

up flame
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/24/21 05:29 AM

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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/24/21 05:31 AM

Heck I forget. Pequins, cappuccino pequins, somethin’ else, chocolate Hab, a few tomatoes finally and some Jamaican yellows
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/26/21 03:28 AM

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Channeled my grandmother today and made 2.5 quarts of salsa.

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My mom was out from Alabama and brought a big bag of apples from trees i planted when I was probably 10 (25 years ago). They were wormy but I peeled and trimmed and made a couple quarts of applesauce for the kids.

Good day. Gotta be honest and say I got a little emotional thinking about my grandparents during the process.
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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/26/21 04:43 AM

Originally Posted by Cow_doc.308
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Good day. Gotta be honest and say I got a little emotional thinking about my grandparents during the process.


That looks so good. My cousin's grandma (on the other side of his family) always made all of their mexican food from scratch, I always looked forward to eating over there. She always made lots of salsa, and would always make a special batch for my cousin and I, because she knew we liked a spicier salsa than the rest. I probably miss the salsa, tamales, and tortillas the most. Can't beat any of those hand made from scratch. I need to see if him and his wife got any of her recipes before she passed away.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/26/21 11:22 AM

That takes a lot of TLC. cheers
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/26/21 11:43 AM

I planted three tomato plants. I ended up with 13 due to composting and volunteer plants. My tomatoes are doing well still and I have only starting watering this week. These melon and cucumber plants are ALL volunteers. Yes, I know they cross-breed.

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/27/21 01:22 AM

Picked some tomatoes and peppers today.
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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/27/21 01:44 AM

damn


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Posted By: SRPI89

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/29/21 02:03 AM

Help!!!!! chili pepper plant, jalapeño plant with no leaves, sparse tomato plants with brown leaves and small fruit, and a jabenero plant that’s got small leaves. I need the brain trust of the THF gardening gurus. All are in clay pots. [Linked Image]
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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/29/21 03:07 AM

Originally Posted by SRPI89
Help!!!!! chili pepper plant, jalapeño plant with no leaves, sparse tomato plants with brown leaves and small fruit, and a jabenero plant that’s got small leaves. I need the brain trust of the THF gardening gurus. All are in clay pots. [Linked Image]
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Pretty simple solution. You're growing in pots. They will need pretty much daily watering or every other day at least. You don't need to drown them, just a good kiss. A spray of daconil fungicide would be good. Follow label rates. Spray under the leaves too. Try and give them afternoon shade too. Then roll with some fertilizer. I'll link it. Go with fertilome bloom and Peter's Triple 20. They look the same. Mix them in a container. Add 3 tablespoons to a 5 gallon bucket of water. Mix well. Use a coffee can or whatever to distribute evenly to the pots. You're good. Easy peasy.

https://www.fertilome.com/product/blooming-rooting-soluble-plant-food-9-58-8-15

https://www.amazon.com/Peters-20-20-20-Pounds-Fertilizer-Nutrients/dp/B00K3YGUK2/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=peters+20%2F20%2F20&qid=1627531505&sr=8-3
Posted By: SRPI89

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/29/21 03:55 AM

Derek- you’re the man! Thank you!!!
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/29/21 04:20 AM

Originally Posted by SRPI89
Derek- you’re the man! Thank you!!!


Far from it. I left off the part to do that 5gal mix once or twice a week. Do that twice a week between waterings and you should get a nice fall crop. If they are getting plenty of morning sun, say 8-3, give them some afternoon shade, 3-dark. Adjust as needed.

Sorry, not to ramble on. But growing in pots every time you water and it runs out the bottom nutrients are leaching out with it. That's why you add nutes every couple days or so at light amounts. Thank me later.
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/29/21 08:04 PM

Derek, you are the man and thanks for sharing the seeds. I look forward to using them!
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/29/21 08:34 PM

You're welcome. Enjoy!

Besides the Choc SB's, I've already forgot what others I sent lol.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/30/21 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Picked some tomatoes
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Whoa- nice looks like on India chilie market!
Posted By: SRPI89

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/03/21 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by SRPI89
Derek- you’re the man! Thank you!!!


Far from it. I left off the part to do that 5gal mix once or twice a week. Do that twice a week between waterings and you should get a nice fall crop. If they are getting plenty of morning sun, say 8-3, give them some afternoon shade, 3-dark. Adjust as needed.

Sorry, not to ramble on. But growing in pots every time you water and it runs out the bottom nutrients are leaching out with it. That's why you add nutes every couple days or so at light amounts. Thank me later.



Started your exact regiment today. Will report back!!
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/04/21 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by SRPI89
Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by SRPI89
Derek- you’re the man! Thank you!!!


Far from it. I left off the part to do that 5gal mix once or twice a week. Do that twice a week between waterings and you should get a nice fall crop. If they are getting plenty of morning sun, say 8-3, give them some afternoon shade, 3-dark. Adjust as needed.

Sorry, not to ramble on. But growing in pots every time you water and it runs out the bottom nutrients are leaching out with it. That's why you add nutes every couple days or so at light amounts. Thank me later.



Started your exact regiment today. Will report back!!


Love that. Give it time. Remember moisture is key. Keep those pots moist and don't let them dry out. I think you'll have a nice fall harvest.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/04/21 01:38 AM

Tried container gardening this year, never again. Already prepping for a fall garden.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/06/21 04:48 PM

Sorry but I love my container gardening!! cheers

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/06/21 05:00 PM

looks great and I'm sure it produces well. I miss being in the garden walking around looking at the plants. Hell, I missed the tiller.
Due to some unforeseen issues I tried to make do with a container garden, it's just not the same for me.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/11/21 01:24 PM

Watered the peppers and okra last night. I was given some Burgundy okra seeds this year. It's insane. The stalks are so thick I'll have to use a chainsaw to cut them down in winter. Huge producer too.
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Posted By: bobcat1

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/11/21 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by SRPI89
Help!!!!! chili pepper plant, jalapeño plant with no leaves, sparse tomato plants with brown leaves and small fruit, and a jabenero plant that’s got small leaves. I need the brain trust of the THF gardening gurus. All are in clay pots. [Linked Image]
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Pretty simple solution. You're growing in pots. They will need pretty much daily watering or every other day at least. You don't need to drown them, just a good kiss. A spray of daconil fungicide would be good. Follow label rates. Spray under the leaves too. Try and give them afternoon shade too. Then roll with some fertilizer. I'll link it. Go with fertilome bloom and Peter's Triple 20. They look the same. Mix them in a container. Add 3 tablespoons to a 5 gallon bucket of water. Mix well. Use a coffee can or whatever to distribute evenly to the pots. You're good. Easy peasy.

https://www.fertilome.com/product/blooming-rooting-soluble-plant-food-9-58-8-15

https://www.amazon.com/Peters-20-20-20-Pounds-Fertilizer-Nutrients/dp/B00K3YGUK2/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=peters+20%2F20%2F20&qid=1627531505&sr=8-3
Ordered it all. Thanks.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/11/21 04:07 PM

My potted plant production has been great running that combo. I need to improve my watering on the pots. I'm like Payne and not a fan of container gardening and get laxed on it. I'm using the same formula on my wifes potted flowers and they look great.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/11/21 06:08 PM

Yeah, I'm chomping at the bit to get back in the dirt this fall. Started some beefsteaks and transplanted them this morning.

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Been incubating guineas as well, had one die today.

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Been stealing the peahen's eggs also
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/11/21 09:04 PM

Nice! What does your growing season go to. Dec 15th-ish?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/11/21 09:12 PM

roughly yeah. I'm going for broccoli, cauliflower & brussel sprouts mainly. I plant the tomatoes and other stuff just for kicks.
Posted By: SRPI89

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/12/21 08:43 PM

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Derek- it’s already much better!!!
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/12/21 08:53 PM

Excellent! up cheers
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/13/21 04:32 AM

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Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/13/21 08:47 AM

clap
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/14/21 12:57 PM

Payne. They love their morning choice cuts in gravy with a strawberry dessert.
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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/14/21 01:04 PM

They look bigger. How do they like the heat?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/14/21 01:26 PM

They’re growing fast. They don’t seem to mind the heat too much. They like to soak in their water tub in the afternoon
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/14/21 02:30 PM

I think you should jazz up their spa..

https://www.amazon.com/Miniature-Artificial-Palm-Trees/s?k=Miniature+Artificial+Palm+Trees
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/14/21 03:49 PM

I think we need to send Payne some turtles
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/14/21 04:01 PM

Basil getting a little unruly.
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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/14/21 05:33 PM

I have plenty of turtles, they're just not high fenced...
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/17/21 02:25 AM

I got called a “pepperphile” today and I couldn’t argue with em.
Posted By: GNTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/17/21 03:10 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Basil getting a little unruly.
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Yeah, it will do that. Once those heads turn brown, you can collect them for seeds to grow more basil. Or you can leave them be and you will automatically get more basil in the same container over time. I always tell people that if they can’t grow basil, they need to hang it up.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/17/21 03:13 AM

I can’t eat it fast enough! Not exactly a bad thing
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/18/21 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by GNTX
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Basil getting a little unruly.
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Yeah, it will do that. Once those heads turn brown, you can collect them for seeds to grow more basil. Or you can leave them be and you will automatically get more basil in the same container over time. I always tell people that if they can’t grow basil, they need to hang it up.


I went out to do what you said. Oh man! It’s like a self contained system of seed gathering, pretty awesome!
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Went ahead and snipped these too. Thanks for that heads up!
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Posted By: SRPI89

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/21/21 06:37 PM

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Today’s haul. Thanks Derek.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/30/21 02:33 AM

got a good harvest of pears! Not bad for a 4" caliper tree:
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Also picked the last 'GranySmith' apples off a little 2" caliper tree- it made 10 good size apples this year:
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Still got tomato's trickling in too.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/13/21 02:00 AM

Finally got my little square foot gardens setup and all planted.

Hope got get a small harvest before the first freeze but pushing it kinda close.

Had to build a fence to keep my GSD out of there he dug up the first bed within an hour lol.

Got little man to help me, figured it’d be good family fun.

Will be building my rain catchment system this weekend or next.

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/13/21 02:14 AM

very nice setup

how much sun do you get in that area?
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/13/21 02:38 AM

Thank you sir. It’ll definitely provide plenty for small family.

Not as much as I’d like but my back yard is pretty shaded and this is the only spot that I had possible unless I get some mature trees cut down.

I get complete sun from 11-4pm and partial until about 6:30-7
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/13/21 02:42 AM

So far this is what I’ve got planted. With layout and which plant in each square foot. Most squares like peppers, corn, tomatoes you can only do one per, but others like the lettuce, carrots, and spice you can do 6-12 per square foot.

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/13/21 03:05 AM

looks good

I see some chainsaw in your future

morning sun is better than afternoon sun
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/13/21 03:25 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
looks good

I see some chainsaw in your future

morning sun is better than afternoon sun

Lol unless I cut my house down, it’s not getting any morning sun.

Might trim some trees back a bit to get full sun for the entire second half of the day. We’ll see how it goes.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/13/21 03:31 AM

I'm just happy you finally started, a cheap hobby that benefits
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/13/21 03:44 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
I'm just happy you finally started, a cheap hobby that benefits

I’m happy I finally got it done too. It’s definitely time and have been meaning to get it done for a while.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/13/21 12:02 PM

Welcome to the club. cheers
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/13/21 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
Finally got my little square foot gardens setup and all planted.

Hope got get a small harvest before the first freeze but pushing it kinda close.

Had to build a fence to keep my GSD out of there he dug up the first bed within an hour lol.

Got little man to help me, figured it’d be good family fun.

Will be building my rain catchment system this weekend or next.

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Awesome!
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/15/21 01:44 AM

Need pics of the GSD!!
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/17/21 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
Need pics of the GSD!!

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/17/21 12:48 AM

cheers
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/18/21 10:41 PM

Corn, squash, zucchini, caribe tomatoes, roma tomatoes and some of the carrots already spouting. Way fast than I thought it would be. Just got them in the ground last Sunday. They’re still tiny but figured it would take a while to even sprout.

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Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/18/21 10:46 PM

Royal................you a little too late in my opinion for this season.......but that's good practice.

Proud of ya.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/18/21 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by fadetoblack64
Royal................you a little too late in my opinion for this season.......but that's good practice.

Proud of ya.

Yea figured I was, but seeds are cheap and will definitely be good practice for next season.
Posted By: GNTX

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/19/21 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
Originally Posted by fadetoblack64
Royal................you a little too late in my opinion for this season.......but that's good practice.

Proud of ya.

Yea figured I was, but seeds are cheap and will definitely be good practice for next season.


Our average first frost for this area is around mid November. You might have time to get some decent squash. And if you have the ability to cover them against a temporary frost or freeze, you can extend the growing season a bit longer. I have done that several times. Good luck!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/19/21 05:49 PM

There is a difference in a scattered frost and a hard freezing frost. Fingers crossed.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/24/21 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
Originally Posted by fredeboy
Need pics of the GSD!!

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Beautiful pup. Had to put mine down 3 weeks ago. Hardest thing I have ever done. Miss him ever day!
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/24/21 07:13 PM

Thanks,
Yea we had another GSD, a female, that was a bit older than Hans and we had to put here down in 2017. Cried like a baby. It is definitely hard.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/25/21 02:59 AM

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Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/25/21 03:32 AM

Those look HOT lol.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/25/21 02:24 PM

My habs got whacked by deer a month ago. Lost one completely and this one had half its leaves eaten. Making a comeback but I doubt it will produce before winter, I might bring it inside to see how it does.


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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/26/21 07:02 PM

Took the tarp off to till, need rake some of the trash up then make the rows


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Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/26/21 09:27 PM

That’s not a garden Payne that’s a farm lol.

Finally got around to my water catchment system today. One of the barrels I bought smelled like ammonia so not using that one. Just doing 3 55 gallon drums. Can add on later if I need more. Lowe’s was also sold out of cinder blocks so couldn’t finish today. But got all the holes cut and all the pipe dry fitted.

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/05/21 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by Derek

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Was that a hab? I yanked this one today.

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/05/21 01:35 PM

That's a Big Black Mama. I'm growing a chocolate habanero. I'll get a pic of it. It's covered in peppers.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/06/21 10:35 PM

This is my chocolate habanero
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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/07/21 09:17 PM

very nice
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/08/21 07:56 PM

I like the choc habs production. Like a machine
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/09/21 12:03 AM

These, I swear to y’all, are the hottest little bastages of jalapeños I’ve ever had! They ain’t even 2” long either! I dub them the Txhunter of jalapeños. Short, stout and demand respect roflmao
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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/09/21 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Welcome to the club. cheers


Makes me happy seeing you in here Kyle. Great job!
Posted By: Sneaky

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/10/21 04:31 AM

He’s really growing up. Makes me all teary eyed.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/11/21 02:42 AM

roflmao
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/11/21 04:33 PM

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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/11/21 06:06 PM

Freakin’ good tunes man
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/11/21 06:06 PM

You sure have purty dirt.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/12/21 04:02 PM

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9 months after the freeze, its almost 4ft tall.. I didn't think it would come back.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/12/21 04:08 PM

Survivor. cheers
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/12/21 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
These, I swear to y’all, are the hottest little bastages of jalapeños I’ve ever had! They ain’t even 2” long either! I dub them the Txhunter of jalapeños. Short, stout and demand respect roflmao
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We went on vacation end of August for 16 days. My container jalapeño plant was left to fend for itself. When we returned, I had 4 that size. I gave them away, haven’t heard how hot they were yet.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/13/21 12:57 PM

Payne. Fresh hibiscus blooms is one of their favorites.
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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/13/21 01:23 PM

Are they still in jail or do they get to freerange?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/13/21 02:23 PM

Still in jail. They are about to come in for the winter. I'm working on designing a larger enclosure for them next year. Maybe another 2 years and they can free range.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/13/21 02:32 PM

gotcha
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/13/21 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Payne. Fresh hibiscus blooms is one of their favorites.
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Tortoises?
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/13/21 03:40 PM

Those are the very rare, almost endangered “Tasmanian Meowing Tortoises” roflmao
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/13/21 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Those are the very rare, almost endangered “Tasmanian Meowing Tortoises” roflmao


lol. Freaking daddy cat.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/13/21 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Originally Posted by Derek
Payne. Fresh hibiscus blooms is one of their favorites.
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Tortoises?


Yes. It's a male and female red footed. Female is on the right. I wanted box turtles but they were really tough to find and really expensive if you were able to find them. I went with red footed since they are known to be very personable, not picky eaters and overall easy to care for and they are. Got them from a breeder in Frisco.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/13/21 07:36 PM

[video:youtube]https://youtube.com/shorts/4VtLMyRfPYw?feature=share[/video]
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/13/21 07:51 PM

roflmao
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/13/21 09:17 PM

I put it on loop
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/20/21 04:42 PM

Been on umm… “vacation” for a bit but got my water catchment system done and with the previous rains we had all 3 barrels are 3/4 full already. Need to install a run off pipe now.

“Privacy fence” going up around it as we speak so the wife doesn’t have to see the barrels rofl

Actually works really well, a lot better than I thought it would. I don’t normally get things right on my first try lol.

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/20/21 04:52 PM

That looks good
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/21/21 02:55 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog

I have no idea what I just watched
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/21/21 02:56 AM

Got my Dixondale mailer in. Got me fired up. About time to plant onions. I plant on good Friday. Easy to grow. I'll blend in some 13-13-13 when I till up the beds. Just some Ammonia Sulfate after that.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/22/21 12:20 AM

Got the fence done this evening. Turned out much better than my last one hahah. Going to redo the other one to match up.

Still don’t know if I’m going cut the post off and put a top cap and trim on to match the privacy fence or cut them off a little tall to put an LED post light on it. So they’re still a bit tall

Will look much better once it’s stained but got to let it bake in the sun for a while before spraying it.

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Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/22/21 12:25 AM

Now just chilling and having a drink.

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/22/21 03:56 PM

Wow. Just wow. You outdid yourself. Looks like a winner.
Posted By: bobcat1

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/24/21 01:29 PM

What these peppers lack in size they make up for in heat. Those red or slightly purplish ones will open your sinuses and bowels. Lol

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Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/01/21 05:35 PM

our cherry tomatoes have kicked back into high gear ...
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/01/21 05:49 PM

They look great. I can't grow those in the fall.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/01/21 08:04 PM

I’ve still got 2 small peppers on my jalapeño container bush.
Posted By: maximum

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/01/21 08:39 PM

I had thought everything was done and ready to wither away,
but I guess the plants decided to spew out a few more pieces

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Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/03/21 10:08 PM

yep, we leave our tomato plants intact throughout the summer so they are fully mature when the temperatures start dropping and the ground cools off a bit, and the tomatoes kick back into high gear. during the heat of the summer, we trim them back quite a bit (cut worms usually help until we can find them).
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/11/21 04:15 PM

Got some chocolate habanero picking to do.
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/11/21 04:28 PM

Pure greatness. I only have volunteer cilantro.
Posted By: Cow_doc.308

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/12/21 03:53 AM

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These are a few weeks old now. I starter the maters and eggplant from seed and planted last week of June. Second picture is 20 pounds of maters. Still a ton of green ones on the vine but not ripening with the cooler temps.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/12/21 04:12 AM

Very cool pics
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/12/21 03:06 PM

Agree Kyle. Well done too. I’ll keep moving 5gal buckets over to catch the rain until I get gutters in the back
Derek, you’re a freak of nature and my hero. Fo cereal
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/12/21 06:48 PM

Great Fall garden cheers
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/16/21 07:18 PM

We haven't even hit winter and I'm already bored. So I started to layout my garden for next year.

Tomatos:

Martinos
San Marzano
Tycoon

Cucumbers:

H19
Jackson little leaf

Onions and Garlic:

Dixondale Texas Legends and Red Creole

Garlic – Don’t know the specific variety. It was given to me

Peppers:

Goliath Jalapeno
Tabasco
Chile De Arbol
Freeport Scotch Bonnet
P. Dreadie Scotch Bonnet
Peppadew (wife wants these)

I have spots for 2 more peppers haven’t decided which. Probably KS Lemmon Starburst and not sure on the other.

Once I pull the onions and garlic I’ll plant blackeye peas. Specific variety will be Pinkeye Quick Pick Southern. And maybe squash.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/24/21 04:08 PM

Go time
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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/24/21 04:50 PM

Looks as if you pay the fiddler. cheers
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/26/21 11:36 PM

Got onions and garlic planted. The neighborhood cat "Daddy Cat" is alive, he's just taking a nap.

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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/27/21 08:25 PM

Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/27/21 08:26 PM

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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/27/21 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
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Call the fire department! flame
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/27/21 10:59 PM

Pfshhhh. They won’t eat em! roflmao
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/27/21 11:01 PM

Derek, whatever KSLS you don’t want, I’ll trade you some of your favorite beverages for em! People just don’t know what they’re missing!
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/28/21 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Pfshhhh. They won’t eat em! roflmao


What? No pepper bellies?
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/28/21 01:48 AM

I pulled my jalapeno and remaining tomato plants today. Mowed over my plot. Brought home a new to me 60 year old tiller yesterday so I'll till up and turn in my compost in the next few weeks. Hadn't planned on planting anything until February. I like the sound of onions and garlic though...maybe I'll do that.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/01/21 12:24 PM

https://vegogarden.com/
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/01/21 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by fadetoblack64


Those are pricey.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/09/21 04:23 AM

Final pepper harvest of the year. RIP 2021 garden. See you next year. I have another 10-15lbs of peppers on the vine that I don't even care about picking.
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Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/10/21 02:51 AM

picked my last of the year tue. got home from work and plants were frost bit. didnt pull em yet but prolly will this weekend. gotta pickle the banannas and gave away prolly 12-15lbs of habenaro and jalapeno. mustard is growin good!
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/12/21 04:44 PM

10-15 lbs huh? Well, just don’t shoot if you see a 240lb rat in the garden
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/18/21 04:14 PM

Got this in the mail this week. I named the hot sauce “Better’n Sex”
Yes, it’s THAT good
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Posted By: Walkabout

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/18/21 04:45 PM

LoL you must be doing something wrong.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/01/22 08:25 PM

2022 Pepper season has begun. 24 hour soak in potassium nitrate to help germination.
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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/06/22 12:34 AM

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Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/06/22 06:26 AM

Your serious about them peppers. I'm impressed. I know it's boring, but the only pepper I am planting this year are a couple sweet banana peppers.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/06/22 06:53 AM

This is my seed starting setup I threw together. A broken 10 gal aquarium on it's side, a small seedling heat mat, a halogen grow light bulb in a dome lamp, and a $5 set of peat pellet trays from Amazon. I also have a second tray I can use that fits just right and holds 3 inch peat pots.

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For an area that get's enough sun I only have room for one full row on a garden fence. I usually plant something different every year and I try to keep it to something easy to grow without much care. Last year it was for show being mostly a hedge of Mexican Sunflowers. The year before it was 5 varieties of Okra. This year it will be Pear Tomatoes in Red, Yellow, Orange, and Ivory. And another snacking tomato for the fun of it, a Spoon Tomato.

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/06/22 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Sniper John
Your serious about them peppers. I'm impressed. I know it's boring, but the only pepper I am planting this year are a couple sweet banana peppers.


Nothing wrong with banana peppers. I love those. You have a nice grow setup and those mexican sunflowers look awesome. Good luck on the tomatoes this year and keep us updated on them. up
Posted By: SRPI89

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/07/22 02:50 PM

Educate me on adding manure. Our soil out here is incredibly sandy. I am considering adding manure to my soon-to-be constructed beds. I’ve been reading I’ll need anywhere from 20-30% of the volume of the beds. Any advice?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/07/22 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by SRPI89
Educate me on adding manure. Our soil out here is incredibly sandy. I am considering adding manure to my soon-to-be constructed beds. I’ve been reading I’ll need anywhere from 20-30% of the volume of the beds. Any advice?


I wouldn't concentrate much on going straight manure. I would try to locate mushroom compost if possible. If not whatever compost the nursery or local distributor has is fine. To that I would add some vermiculite, perlite. Black Kow is the manure I would add in. You can get 10lb bricks of coco coir on Amazon for like $20.Hydrate that in water then mix into the soil. It retains a ton of water. In fall you can collect tree leaves to mix in. Lots of ways to go. But you want a good mix and not just one particular item. A good mix will give you a good biodiverse and very active soil with high microbe activity.
Posted By: SRPI89

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/07/22 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by SRPI89
Educate me on adding manure. Our soil out here is incredibly sandy. I am considering adding manure to my soon-to-be constructed beds. I’ve been reading I’ll need anywhere from 20-30% of the volume of the beds. Any advice?


I wouldn't concentrate much on going straight manure. I would try to locate mushroom compost if possible. If not whatever compost the nursery or local distributor has is fine. To that I would add some vermiculite, perlite. Black Kow is the manure I would add in. You can get 10lb bricks of coco coir on Amazon for like $20.Hydrate that in water then mix into the soil. It retains a ton of water. In fall you can collect tree leaves to mix in. Lots of ways to go. But you want a good mix and not just one particular item. A good mix will give you a good biodiverse and very active soil with high microbe activity.


Awesome! Thank you!
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/08/22 02:52 AM

Let’s get the 2022 gardening season going girls. Peppers are rocking.

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Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/10/22 06:43 PM

if your into chemical grows


Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/22 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
if your into chemical grows




That's pretty cool. I've been wanting to get into hydo. Just haven't taken the time to do it yet.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/22 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Tin Head
if your into chemical grows




That's pretty cool. I've been wanting to get into hydo. Just haven't taken the time to do it yet.

the kratky method is as simple as it will ever get.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/22 01:16 AM

Thanks Tin. I'll do some research on that method. up
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/13/22 12:13 AM

Got some trays under the lights. Progress
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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/19/22 03:17 PM

Day 18. Day one 12 hour soak in Potassium Nitrate, 7 days in coffee, then into soil. Coming along nicely. Most are setting their first set of true leaves.

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Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/24/22 05:53 PM

My mix of seedling are doing well. I did add three more pepper varieties, so I'll have to figure out a place to plant them. I did have a bought of damping off wipe out one of my trays. I started adding a little hydrogen peroxide to the water I was using and have not had a problem with it since.

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/24/22 07:05 PM

Looking good Sniper. What's in the water bottle?
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/24/22 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Looking good Sniper. What's in the water bottle?


Fig. Brown Turkey or Texas I think. I need to dig up and remove my my fig tree, but wanted to get a new one from it started someplace else first. I have a starter planted already, but wanted to have a backup in case it does not survive the winter.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/25/22 03:55 AM

Originally Posted by Sniper John
Originally Posted by Derek
Looking good Sniper. What's in the water bottle?


Fig. Brown Turkey or Texas I think. I need to dig up and remove my my fig tree, but wanted to get a new one from it started someplace else first. I have a starter planted already, but wanted to have a backup in case it does not survive the winter.

Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/25/22 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
Originally Posted by Sniper John
Originally Posted by Derek
Looking good Sniper. What's in the water bottle?


Fig. Brown Turkey or Texas I think. I need to dig up and remove my my fig tree, but wanted to get a new one from it started someplace else first. I have a starter planted already, but wanted to have a backup in case it does not survive the winter.



That's pretty cool. I bought some of the air layering cups a few weeks ago. I plan on trying it out on my lemon tree soon.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/26/22 04:33 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Day 18. Day one 12 hour soak in Potassium Nitrate, 7 days in coffee, then into soil. Coming along nicely. Most are setting their first set of true leaves.

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Alright now, I’ve given all the head starts I can allow. It’s time.
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/28/22 03:04 AM

when yall puttin out onion sets?
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/29/22 02:54 AM


Originally Posted by Derek

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Looks like a ant in the photo. There are plenty of ways to get rid of them but I like just plain old borax these days . I will sprinkle some around the base of the shelf system and put out bottle caps with borax and sugar. Problem solved , them little boogers can get annoying. Nice starts. I started mine 2 weeks later this year to see how it goes
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/29/22 04:01 AM

Lol. I think that’s a fly. I have zero ant. Started transferring them to 4” pots tonight.
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Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/29/22 04:09 AM

Nice , they are off and running........
Posted By: yotehater

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/29/22 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by Poppa
when yall puttin out onion sets?


I've been looking for some. Should be about time.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/22 06:49 PM

brought baby lime tree in last night.
The big one is growing like a weed. hopefully I'll get limes from it this year.
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Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/22 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
brought baby lime tree in last night.
The big one is growing like a weed. hopefully I'll get limes from it this year.
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I like it .................Dont forget to fertilize
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/04/22 07:16 PM

Ohhhhh Christmas Tree Oh bolt
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/05/22 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by NORML as can be
Ohhhhh Christmas Tree Oh bolt

rofl Looks like Charlie Brown's doesn't it?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/05/22 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
brought baby lime tree in last night.
The big one is growing like a weed. hopefully I'll get limes from it this year.
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Nice! I bought a lemon tree last year. I really like it. Got 7 lemons off of it last year. Going to buy a lime this year. Did you start that from a cutting?
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/05/22 01:04 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by TCM3
brought baby lime tree in last night.
The big one is growing like a weed. hopefully I'll get limes from it this year.
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Nice! I bought a lemon tree last year. I really like it. Got 7 lemons off of it last year. Going to buy a lime this year. Did you start that from a cutting?

No sir, I started this one from a seed.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/05/22 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by TCM3
brought baby lime tree in last night.
The big one is growing like a weed. hopefully I'll get limes from it this year.
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Nice! I bought a lemon tree last year. I really like it. Got 7 lemons off of it last year. Going to buy a lime this year. Did you start that from a cutting?

No sir, I started this one from a seed.

It is very doable , BUT, I remember reading something about limes not growing into the lime you ate. Meaning the lime plant you got from seed will give you limes but it will be a little different than the lime you took it from . Maybe more seeds , maybe not full color. I believe thats why most plants that are sold at the store are grafted. Just found this.

https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/edible/fruits/lime/growing-lime-trees-from-seed.htm
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/05/22 05:09 AM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
Originally Posted by TCM3
Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by TCM3
brought baby lime tree in last night.
The big one is growing like a weed. hopefully I'll get limes from it this year.
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Nice! I bought a lemon tree last year. I really like it. Got 7 lemons off of it last year. Going to buy a lime this year. Did you start that from a cutting?

No sir, I started this one from a seed.

It is very doable , BUT, I remember reading something about limes not growing into the lime you ate. Meaning the lime plant you got from seed will give you limes but it will be a little different than the lime you took it from . Maybe more seeds , maybe not full color. I believe thats why most plants that are sold at the store are grafted. Just found this.

https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/edible/fruits/lime/growing-lime-trees-from-seed.htm

interesting. Good to know, Thanks!
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/05/22 05:55 AM

Plants for my little garden are doing really well. Almost too well for this early.


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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/05/22 06:11 AM

Just for fun I plant a couple of these every year to climb on my workshop. Extra points to anyone who guesses what they are. Hint. Part of the name is a namesake for an animal hunted in Florida.

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Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/06/22 02:19 PM

Loofah?
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/06/22 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by rickym
Loofah?

supposed to be as easy as growing cucumber
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/06/22 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by Sniper John
Plants for my little garden are doing really well. Almost too well for this early.


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When do you plant out Sniper? Your seedlings look nice and look like they have a couple weeks on mine. This year I am trying to start a little later indoors. They will go out at the same time they always do. Last year I ended fighting for space and they were getting huge before outdoors was ready. Just seeing what others are doing since I am switching things up. I started my peppers mid to late jan.

Edit : your lighting system is definitely working for you. I have recently found a shop light (LED) from walmart that is worth its price , I believe it was 20 dollars and is a four foot fixture. It burns with less electricity , less heat and looks to do better than some of my more expensive florescent with specific grow bulbs. For the price and for what we are doing (seedlings) it fits the bill for me. If your growing more than seedlings/starters is when you need more of a light spectrum. I have one fixture and its about 3 feet away from my aloe and its pushing the edge of light burn. Anyways just a idea, I think its a bargain and just passing along.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/06/22 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
Originally Posted by rickym
Loofah?

supposed to be as easy as growing cucumber


Nope. Python Snake Bean
Real poor germination rate. I crack the seeds with pliers and soak them 24 hours. Then it takes about 3 weeks to germinate. I was able to get a one to three ratio to germinate this year. Best I have ever got out of them. I think the flowers smell like peanut butter and the fruit really does look like big snakes. They are edible, but I have never tried it.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/06/22 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
Originally Posted by Sniper John
Plants for my little garden are doing really well. Almost too well for this early.


When do you plant out Sniper? Your seedlings look nice and look like they have a couple weeks on mine. This year I am trying to start a little later indoors. They will go out at the same time they always do. Last year I ended fighting for space and they were getting huge before outdoors was ready. Just seeing what others are doing since I am switching things up. I started my peppers mid to late jan.

Edit : your lighting system is definitely working for you. I have recently found a shop light (LED) from walmart that is worth its price , I believe it was 20 dollars and is a four foot fixture. It burns with less electricity , less heat and looks to do better than some of my more expensive florescent with specific grow bulbs. For the price and for what we are doing (seedlings) it fits the bill for me. If your growing more than seedlings/starters is when you need more of a light spectrum. I have one fixture and its about 3 feet away from my aloe and its pushing the edge of light burn. Anyways just a idea, I think its a bargain and just passing along.


I have a 35wattt fluorescent grow bulb in the main one with a timer keeping it on 15 hours a day. The he other has an LED grow bulb and I move it back and forth half the time on some alpine strawberry seedlings not pictured. Both bulbs are amazon specials. As for when I plant. No idea. I have not looked at the last freeze date, but this year I was hoping to cheat it some with the tomatoes if the weather is nice. I have double the plants I need so I can replace any that get hit by a late freeze or that squirrels dig up. Dang critters like to dig up everything right after I plant.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/07/22 06:58 PM

Any does or don’ts on planting black berrys and raspberries?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/22 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
Any does or don’ts on planting black berrys and raspberries?


Shouldn't have any issues with Blackberries. Most varieties can hand soil Ph's in the low 7's. I grew Apache a couple years ago in a pot. It did really well and even though they are cold hardy the 2021 freeze took it out. I'll probably get another one or two this year. If you're going to plant them in ground I would probably dig the soil out a couple feet in each direction and amend the soil pretty well and get rid of some of the clay in the soil.

Raspberries will be difficult. They are acid soil loving plants. Like mid/upper 5 to low 6 ph max. You could try growing them in a large pot. There are special acidic soil mixes you can buy. But your tap water is going to be around a 7ph, so when you water it will start to counter act the acidic soil mix and raise the Ph. So when you water you need to add a little citric acid powder to your container to make an acidic water solution. I have a Ph meter and can run some test on a 5gal water solution. It won't be much. Probably a tablespoon of citric to 5gal of water would probably drop the solution to under 5 easily.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/22 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
Any does or don’ts on planting black berrys and raspberries?


Shouldn't have any issues with Blackberries. Most varieties can hand soil Ph's in the low 7's. I grew Apache a couple years ago in a pot. It did really well and even though they are cold hardy the 2021 freeze took it out. I'll probably get another one or two this year. If you're going to plant them in ground I would probably dig the soil out a couple feet in each direction and amend the soil pretty well and get rid of some of the clay in the soil.

Raspberries will be difficult. They are acid soil loving plants. Like mid/upper 5 to low 6 ph max. You could try growing them in a large pot. There are special acidic soil mixes you can buy. But your tap water is going to be around a 7ph, so when you water it will start to counter act the acidic soil mix and raise the Ph. So when you water you need to add a little citric acid powder to your container to make an acidic water solution. I have a Ph meter and can run some test on a 5gal water solution. It won't be much. Probably a tablespoon of citric to 5gal of water would probably drop the solution to under 5 easily.


Thank you I bought kiowa and apache
Posted By: thomas_z71

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/22 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown


Thank you I bought kiowa and apache


Where did you buy them from? My boys love them, I'd like to see if I can grow a few.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/22 02:34 AM

156 started the other day. Will do 50 or so more. These cells are pretty dang small so I'm hoping for an early spring.

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Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/15/22 10:25 PM

I started sorting out my best ones for my little tomato/pepper garden and moving them up another pot size. I would not be surprised if my tomatoes have the the first blooms already by the time I plant them. I noticed at least one of my spare peppers is starting to flower.


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Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/15/22 11:17 PM

up. Looking great.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/16/22 03:25 AM

Originally Posted by Sniper John
I started sorting out my best ones for my little tomato/pepper garden and moving them up another pot size. I would not be surprised if my tomatoes have the the first blooms already by the time I plant them. I noticed at least one of my spare peppers is starting to flower.


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Looks awesome! This is straight my opinion. Though there is science to back it up. I would cut those blossoms off, if not now then prior to planting. What's happening is the plant is saying we've run out of root space so lets move onto the blooming/fruit stage so we can produce fruit to make sure the next generation of seeds go on. So it's forcing all it's energy to the bloom/fruit production, instead of root and growth production. Blooms are not what you want right now. We're not talking end of the world stuff here, but if you want to increase yield I would plan ahead now. Cut/pinch the blooms off. I'm a big fan of topping peppers. Topping is It's debatable. Yours are the right at the perfect size for it or close to it. Try and plan your grows from seed to in ground for the perfect size and stage. I start pepper seeds Jan 1 and others like tomatoes/cukes/Squash mid/late February. And jack up the roots when go in ground. Don't go straight from container to in ground. Rake/break up those roots.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/16/22 04:54 AM

Thanks. That is a good video. I just do one or two short rows on a garden fence every year. Only the ones I just transplanted to the 5-6 inch pots are going in the garden. The ones in in the 3 inch peat pots still are just spares including the one with blooms so they are not getting much attention and already being hardened a little so I can set them outside out of the way. They will be given away if they live, but I will pinch off any blooms on the ones I am keeping for the garden. I have already culled into the compost pile a dozen or so plants. I had set some of those I kept outside to water them and forgot to bring them in. They got sun scalded. So I already cut off those sunburned leaves after the plants grew more and then cut some bottom leaves too when I transplanting them to the bigger pots, so I'll wait a bit to top them. I have already had to cut suckers off those tomato plants too. They are 8 inches tall even after transplanting a little deeper and growing like weeds in my home compost and potting soil mix. These will be the earliest tomato and pepper plants I have ever started and and biggest I will have ever planted. Still got what, like a month until the last freeze date?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/16/22 01:47 PM

Avg last freeze is March 12th so we are 4 weeks out. The long term forecast is trending warmer. I'll look at the 10 day on the 18th. If it looks good I'll plan on planting Saturday the 19th. I keep 44oz Styrofoam cups on hand just incase I need to cover them for a night here and there.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/16/22 11:30 PM

my last frost date is at the end of March being a few miles north of you . the frost likely wont kill them but it will burn the leaves and set you back a couple weeks,
heres a good link for frost dates if anyone else is interested
https://www.almanac.com/gardening/frostdates/TX/Ennis
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/17/22 01:02 AM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
my last frost date is at the end of March being a few miles north of you . the frost likely wont kill them but it will burn the leaves and set you back a couple weeks,
heres a good link for frost dates
https://www.almanac.com/gardening/frostdates/TX/Ennis


Mine got sun burned last year bad a day or two after planting. It was just as bad as frost damage. Most years I can open my garage and my plants will get a couple hours of afternoon sun and harden them off. But as cold as it was I kept my garage closed more than usual. They looked horrible, but rebounded pretty quickly.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/17/22 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Tin Head
my last frost date is at the end of March being a few miles north of you . the frost likely wont kill them but it will burn the leaves and set you back a couple weeks,
heres a good link for frost dates
https://www.almanac.com/gardening/frostdates/TX/Ennis


Mine got sun burned last year bad a day or two after planting. It was just as bad as frost damage. Most years I can open my garage and my plants will get a couple hours of afternoon sun and harden them off. But as cold as it was I kept my garage closed more than usual. They looked horrible, but rebounded pretty quickly.

definitely , its a gamble . You can plan and plan but its mother natures call. I have found myself more than once running around in a haste trying to cover things up . Some years you win and some years you just play the game....Happy growing and good luck
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/22 01:36 AM

Thank goodness for this thread or I would have completely forgotten to start my stuff.

This is about a week in. Tomatoes, squash, zucchini, peppers, and some Romain lettuce.

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Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/22 02:54 AM

Its a little difficult to tell with the lighting but It looks like they might be getting a little leggy. If so move your lighting a little closer. As close as you can with out damaging or burning the seedlings. I could be wrong a little difficult to see.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/22 03:34 AM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
Its a little difficult to tell with the lighting but It looks like they might be getting a little leggy. If so move your lighting a little closer. As close as you can with out damaging or burning the seedlings. I could be wrong a little difficult to see.


Agree. Very leggy. Put them LED's much, much closer. For all of us starting inside with intentions of transplanting outside. Barrina T5 6500k 2200lm is all you need for like $50 on Amazon for a 4ea x 4' set. Don't worry about the reds and blues, not needed.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/22 03:56 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Tin Head
Its a little difficult to tell with the lighting but It looks like they might be getting a little leggy. If so move your lighting a little closer. As close as you can with out damaging or burning the seedlings. I could be wrong a little difficult to see.


Agree. Very leggy. Put them LED's much, much closer. For all of us starting inside with intentions of transplanting outside. Barrina T5 6500k 2200lm is all you need for like $50 on Amazon for a 4ea x 4' set. Don't worry about the reds and blues, not needed.

Thanks fellas I’ll do that. Also how long do you leave it in for? I’ve been running the grow light 24/7 for the week.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/22 04:21 AM

I do 15 hours. 6am-9pm
Posted By: Bee'z

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/22 04:26 AM

Kyle will burn his [censored] up lol D I got the right Pre and it went down yesterday evening cheers
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/22 04:28 AM

Originally Posted by 2Beez
Kyle will burn his [censored] up lol D I got the right Pre and it went down yesterday evening cheers


That makes my heart very happy
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/22 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Tin Head
Its a little difficult to tell with the lighting but It looks like they might be getting a little leggy. If so move your lighting a little closer. As close as you can with out damaging or burning the seedlings. I could be wrong a little difficult to see.


Agree. Very leggy. Put them LED's much, much closer. For all of us starting inside with intentions of transplanting outside. Barrina T5 6500k 2200lm is all you need for like $50 on Amazon for a 4ea x 4' set. Don't worry about the reds and blues, not needed.

if anyone else is interested, the wally world lights are brighter and cheaper. As Derek said , there is no need for the full color spectrum since we are just STARTING the seeds and not going further than that, since they will go outside finish . I dont believe the full spectrum of light will hurt anything at this stage but its just not needed, use it if you have it. The lights in the video start out at 14$ and two will be 28$.

Posted By: mikei

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/22 07:27 PM

The guy at the gardening center at Home Depot gave me this hand written set of instructions on how to make my own MiracleGro. I'll be trying it since I've used everything but the ammonia in my garden; thought I'd share it. He swears it works great, and has been using it for several years.

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/19/22 03:19 AM

Originally Posted by mikei
The guy at the gardening center at Home Depot gave me this hand written set of instructions on how to make my own MiracleGro. I'll be trying it since I've used everything but the ammonia in my garden; thought I'd share it. He swears it works great, and has been using it for several years.

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This formula has actually been out a long time now. I'm still trying to figure out which Miracle Gro product they are trying to copy. It's basically a nitrogen only formula with some magnesium and sulfur mixed in from the Epsom. Not sure what the baking soda adds beside a high salt content. No Phosphorus or Potassium in the mix. I ran this by a turf biochemist and can't post what he said. All the words would be censored lol. I'm not going to use it but have seen it posted around for years. I would like someone to use it and post feedback.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/19/22 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Tin Head
Its a little difficult to tell with the lighting but It looks like they might be getting a little leggy. If so move your lighting a little closer. As close as you can with out damaging or burning the seedlings. I could be wrong a little difficult to see.


Agree. Very leggy. Put them LED's much, much closer. For all of us starting inside with intentions of transplanting outside. Barrina T5 6500k 2200lm is all you need for like $50 on Amazon for a 4ea x 4' set. Don't worry about the reds and blues, not needed.

if anyone else is interested, the wally world lights are brighter and cheaper. As Derek said , there is no need for the full color spectrum since we are just STARTING the seeds and not going further than that, since they will go outside finish . I dont believe the full spectrum of light will hurt anything at this stage but its just not needed, use it if you have it. The lights in the video start out at 14$ and two will be 28$.



That's a great deal. You're typically going to trade off on one of the other. Higher K and lower L or vise versa. I prefer the higher K. Either way it's a great cheap grow set up. Anytime you buy something specifically labeled/packaged for grow you're going to get screwed. For the most part.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/22 09:47 PM

Ok Derek, what do I have going here? It is only under some leaves of my banana peppers, not all of the leaves, and not on my other three variety of pepper. The plants and leaves are not showing any other signs of stress. In fact they look very healthy other than the white stuff under some leaves.

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Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/22 10:10 PM

After researching google, I'm going to answer my own question and see if you concur. It looks like Edema. Too much water and crowded with other plants, thus too much humidity. I have been watering small amounts often and should be letting them dry out between watering. And spread them out or add a fan. This banana pepper variety must be more susceptible to edema than the others as both the banana peppers in peat pots and the banana peppers in 6 inch pots are doing it, yet not on any other of my plants.
This was a new one on me, but I have never had my starts inside this long before.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/22 10:39 PM

That very well could be Edema. What concerns me a little bit is typically when you see edema it covers most of the leaf surface and not just along the veins. And the way you're watering is good. Mostly if you let them dry out too much and when you water they get s huge rush of uptake causing it. So that brings into question could it be scale or white aphids? Even though they are inside it's not uncommon. And they tend to stay along the veins. If you can get a magnifying glass and zoom in real good. If they look like water crystals that is edema. More insect type it will be one of the soft bodies ones like your aphids.I just want to rule everything out. And adding a fan is really good to do. It will also help harden their stems so when you move them outdoors they will be stronger and handle our spring south winds much better. I have my fan connected to my lights timer so it runs when the lights are on.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/22 12:00 AM

It's not scale or aphids. It does not rub off. At least not easily. And again not on any other type of pepper ot tomato they were crowded with. Bumps on top correlated to the white stuff underneath does show on a couple leaves.

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/22 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by Sniper John
It's not scale or aphids. It does not rub off. At least not easily. And again not on any other type of pepper ot tomato they were crowded with. Bumps on top correlated to the white stuff underneath does show on a couple leaves.

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Perfect. For sure looks like edema. Long term it should be fine. I've only grown banana peppers a couple times. They were really good producers. I think you will enjoy that plant.
Posted By: drag13honda

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/24/22 04:24 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Tin Head
Its a little difficult to tell with the lighting but It looks like they might be getting a little leggy. If so move your lighting a little closer. As close as you can with out damaging or burning the seedlings. I could be wrong a little difficult to see.


Agree. Very leggy. Put them LED's much, much closer. For all of us starting inside with intentions of transplanting outside. Barrina T5 6500k 2200lm is all you need for like $50 on Amazon for a 4ea x 4' set. Don't worry about the reds and blues, not needed.


Derek, can you give me anymore info on how you have these lights set up? How many per shelf, how high above plants, etc.?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/24/22 05:26 AM

Originally Posted by drag13honda
Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Tin Head
Its a little difficult to tell with the lighting but It looks like they might be getting a little leggy. If so move your lighting a little closer. As close as you can with out damaging or burning the seedlings. I could be wrong a little difficult to see.


Agree. Very leggy. Put them LED's much, much closer. For all of us starting inside with intentions of transplanting outside. Barrina T5 6500k 2200lm is all you need for like $50 on Amazon for a 4ea x 4' set. Don't worry about the reds and blues, not needed.


Derek, can you give me anymore info on how you have these lights set up? How many per shelf, how high above plants, etc.?


Absolutely. I use 4 lights per shelf spaced evenly over 24". I keep them just above the plants 1-2" max if possible and adjust as they grow. Some grow faster than others and no issues if they grow up into the lights before I can adjust them. I use wood, zip ties, chain and hooks. Cheap as you can go. It's really simple. I'll get picks tomorrow of how I have them setup. I do 15 hours on and 9 hours off on the lights.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/24/22 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by drag13honda
Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Tin Head
Its a little difficult to tell with the lighting but It looks like they might be getting a little leggy. If so move your lighting a little closer. As close as you can with out damaging or burning the seedlings. I could be wrong a little difficult to see.


Agree. Very leggy. Put them LED's much, much closer. For all of us starting inside with intentions of transplanting outside. Barrina T5 6500k 2200lm is all you need for like $50 on Amazon for a 4ea x 4' set. Don't worry about the reds and blues, not needed.


Derek, can you give me anymore info on how you have these lights set up? How many per shelf, how high above plants, etc.?


Absolutely. I use 4 lights per shelf spaced evenly over 24". I keep them just above the plants 1-2" max if possible and adjust as they grow. Some grow faster than others and no issues if they grow up into the lights before I can adjust them. I use wood, zip ties, chain and hooks. Cheap as you can go. It's really simple. I'll get picks tomorrow of how I have them setup. I do 15 hours on and 9 hours off on the lights.
new users be careful with the 1 "-2" lighting distance , lighting is different , so if you go 1"-2" keep a very close eye on them for a few hours. My florescence I can easily do 1"-2", my leds I can not. Small seedlings will be more tender and my damage much easier . You can easily burn you plants and kill them with lighting. It could work at 1"-2" distance but keep a close eye on them for a couple hours and adjust. if you see stress . You will quickly find you placement. On the other hand you dont want to start 2 feet away either because your plants will stretch towards the light. A lot depends on lights used and stage of plant growth is also a factor.

Drag , how many plants are you looking at starting?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/24/22 05:17 PM

LED burn is a possibility. Though I'm running the lower 20 watt bulbs. If I was using the 45w or 72w I would back them off more. Over the years testing distances on my specific lights the closer gives me the best results. Lots of other factors can come into light burn such as variety of plant, ambient temp, humidity to name a few. Besides obvious burn spots if you start to see your plants canoe it typically a sign the lights are too close. I have no issues.

Got the tomatoes and cucumbers transferred to 4" pots a couple days ago. Started fertilizing about a week ago and the pepper growth has exploded. It's chilly in the garage this morning.
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Posted By: drag13honda

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/22 06:05 AM

Originally Posted by Tin Head
Originally Posted by Derek
Absolutely. I use 4 lights per shelf spaced evenly over 24". I keep them just above the plants 1-2" max if possible and adjust as they grow. Some grow faster than others and no issues if they grow up into the lights before I can adjust them. I use wood, zip ties, chain and hooks. Cheap as you can go. It's really simple. I'll get picks tomorrow of how I have them setup. I do 15 hours on and 9 hours off on the lights.
new users be careful with the 1 "-2" lighting distance , lighting is different , so if you go 1"-2" keep a very close eye on them for a few hours. My florescence I can easily do 1"-2", my leds I can not. Small seedlings will be more tender and my damage much easier . You can easily burn you plants and kill them with lighting. It could work at 1"-2" distance but keep a close eye on them for a couple hours and adjust. if you see stress . You will quickly find you placement. On the other hand you dont want to start 2 feet away either because your plants will stretch towards the light. A lot depends on lights used and stage of plant growth is also a factor.

Drag , how many plants are you looking at starting?


Thank y'all for the answers. That's kind of why I was thinking about buying what somebody was already using and mimic what was working for them, in order to take some of the guesswork out. Lol. But I can definitely start with the lights higher and move them closer as necessary. Tin Head, I'm not actually sure how many plants I would be starting, at this point. I'm kind of still in the dreaming/planning stage. The first few years after I had started my garden, I was starting from seeds, but just starting outdoors. Then I took a couple years off, dealing with some life changes. Then the last couple of years, I have been doing a scaled back version of the garden, but starting with the started plants purchased from the store. I've been putting some serious thought into revamping the garden and starting and indoor growing area to start the seeds before moving them outdoors. I was thinking it might be late to start indoors for this year, and might just plan ahead for next year's season?
Posted By: Ol Thumper

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/22 06:10 AM

Is it to late to plant seeds now or should I just wait and buy the plants? I got busy and forgot all about it until today so I’m behind hammer
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/22 02:35 PM

Derek, my pepper plants are about 2 inches tall. What are you using for fertilizer?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/22 03:15 PM

I'm using Jacks 20-20-20 water soluble. If you're in DFW, Calloways stocks it. Also on Amazon. The leaves of plants are easily able to uptake these nutrients. So when I get done watering the soil I will mist all the leaves down with it too.

https://www.jrpeters.com/online-store/All-Purpose-20-20-20-p184948020
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/22 02:54 AM

Originally Posted by Ol Thumper
Is it to late to plant seeds now or should I just wait and buy the plants? I got busy and forgot all about it until today so I’m behind hammer

Its never to late but I would buy them at this point nuts It really depends on what you are looking to grow. This site has a wealth of information. https://www.farmersalmanac.com/calendar/gardening
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/22 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by drag13honda
Originally Posted by Tin Head
Originally Posted by Derek
Absolutely. I use 4 lights per shelf spaced evenly over 24". I keep them just above the plants 1-2" max if possible and adjust as they grow. Some grow faster than others and no issues if they grow up into the lights before I can adjust them. I use wood, zip ties, chain and hooks. Cheap as you can go. It's really simple. I'll get picks tomorrow of how I have them setup. I do 15 hours on and 9 hours off on the lights.
new users be careful with the 1 "-2" lighting distance , lighting is different , so if you go 1"-2" keep a very close eye on them for a few hours. My florescence I can easily do 1"-2", my leds I can not. Small seedlings will be more tender and my damage much easier . You can easily burn you plants and kill them with lighting. It could work at 1"-2" distance but keep a close eye on them for a couple hours and adjust. if you see stress . You will quickly find you placement. On the other hand you dont want to start 2 feet away either because your plants will stretch towards the light. A lot depends on lights used and stage of plant growth is also a factor.

Drag , how many plants are you looking at starting?


Thank y'all for the answers. That's kind of why I was thinking about buying what somebody was already using and mimic what was working for them, in order to take some of the guesswork out. Lol. But I can definitely start with the lights higher and move them closer as necessary. Tin Head, I'm not actually sure how many plants I would be starting, at this point. I'm kind of still in the dreaming/planning stage. The first few years after I had started my garden, I was starting from seeds, but just starting outdoors. Then I took a couple years off, dealing with some life changes. Then the last couple of years, I have been doing a scaled back version of the garden, but starting with the started plants purchased from the store. I've been putting some serious thought into revamping the garden and starting and indoor growing area to start the seeds before moving them outdoors. I was thinking it might be late to start indoors for this year, and might just plan ahead for next year's season?

Everyone set up will be tailored to what works for them , growing spaces will be different. These guys here are definitely doing something right so the advice is solid. Usually we work with flats , or trays, 10x20 https://www.amazon.com/Plant-Growin...10x20+flat&qid=1645844305&sr=8-2

I can fit about 4 flats , around 50 plants under two 4 foot led shop lights, I only do about 150 starts total. I would think thats a safe number for starts. If you planning less you can do less lighting , if more then more lighting. Being LED the power usage is like half a amp for each light , minimal. You will need a small fan. and probably the most important after lighting is warm temps. some where around the mid 70s is fine for growing and starting seeds needs a little more , around 85 degrees. You can start seeds on a heating mat or as I have doing the paper towel method , a top the fridge or cable box. Even if your not ready to go full bore hit up home depot or lowes and get you a couple starts. You have to get a couple in the ground and find out what works for you.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/22 03:29 AM

another thing to invest in is a hygrometer. About 11 $ and it tracks your highs and lows with temps and humidity .

https://www.amazon.com/ThermoPro-TP50-Digital-Thermometer-Temperature/dp/B01H1R0K68/ref=sxts_rp_s_a1_0?crid=1KV82ZLYRNZKC&cv_ct_cx=hygrometer&keywords=hygrometer&pd_rd_i=B01H1R0K68&pd_rd_r=d2bf4c2a-6bae-4e4d-bfd3-3608423f7a12&pd_rd_w=WBiu2&pd_rd_wg=P3AIW&pf_rd_p=ef09fc8b-f6fe-450c-ac89-05f354bc6e1d&pf_rd_r=XHQT2SJ0EDGPK32FAVK0&psc=1&qid=1645846112&sprefix=hygrometer%2Caps%2C544&sr=1-1-5985efba-8948-4f09-9122-d605505c9d1e
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/22 03:17 AM

Just got done watering. Peppers are rocking. Tomatoes and cukes coming along nicely. Looking at the calendar I’m right at 25 days to go outside. Repointing the 10 day on the 22nd-26th.
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Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/22 11:02 AM

Mine have taken over the workbench in my office. A couple of the tomatoe plants are trying to make blooms now.

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/22 01:05 PM

I just put some that size in the ground. I plan to cover them or put a drip near them with the next freeze warning. Location makes a big difference.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/22 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Sniper John
Mine have taken over the workbench in my office. A couple of the tomatoe plants are trying to make blooms now.

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Indoor tomatoes can get crazy quick, that's why I always start them later. Come plant time I would cut the yellow line sucker off and everything below the blue line. I would also plant them about at the blue line. Still a few weeks out so adjustments to those line will probably need to be made. Looking awesome. Great job.

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Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/22 10:23 PM

My tomatoes will probably be in the garden in less than two weeks. I already started hardening them. They were outside for an hour yesterday and are outside in the shade right now. Eventually will stay out there all day during the day unless I am away trapping at the lease or fishing. I don't have many plants so it's no big deal to move them around. I won't plant my peppers till much later. Seems like in past years when I tried to plant peppers early, they got stunted. Pear tomatoes though are almost bulletproof. Plus I have extras so they are going out early. Just depends on what the the weather forecast looks like in a few days. One of the unusual varieties I am growing this time is kind of wispy looking and super sensitive to being handled. I had a real hard time getting the seeds of that one to germinate too. It's an orange pear tomato, Mila tomato from Ukraine/Russia. I'll call them my "war tomatoes". I may hold off longer on planting that one.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/22 10:36 PM

Post some pics when you plant. I would like to checkout your setup.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/22 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Post some pics when you plant. I would like to checkout your setup.


It is usually a single row, but I widened it this year because you inspired me to add a row of pepper plants on the outside edge. My entire compost pile is turned in there. There is a guide wire out of the picture above the fence for tying up the tomatoes as they outgrow the fence. They will be above my head by summer.

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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/22 11:29 PM

Nice!
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/22 11:31 PM

I rotate different things on it every year or between spring and summer. Last year it was Mexican Sunflowers, before that it was Okra, Year before that it was Tomatoes. It has been cucumbers in some years, and one year it was small watermelons.

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/22 11:55 PM

That's awesome Sniper! I really like those Mexican Sunflowers. Everything looks fantastic. Keep up the great work. cheers
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/22 01:52 PM

Should be a widespread freeze next Saturday morning for the DFW area. Hopefully that will be the last one.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/22 02:47 PM

Die winter, die!
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/22 02:51 PM

My Capsaicin Sommelier, my Sensai
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Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/22 07:40 PM

I'm so proud of him!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/22 12:16 PM

They grow up so fast


Congrats Derek
Posted By: Wytex

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/05/22 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Die winter, die!


Man , if only.
We get spring and planting outside in June.
Our March pattern is like this all month, wondering how far south it will go. Better watch out for your outside plants if it sinks your way.

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Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/22 10:00 PM

I'm about to go all putin on these squirrels.
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Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/22 10:17 PM

bought 5 types of funny named heirloom tomatos so will see how they go................and a guy told me how to grow yellow squash and forget about the borer that has plagued us,
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/22 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by fadetoblack64
.and a guy told me how to grow yellow squash and forget about the borer that has plagued us,

popcorn
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/22 10:41 PM

plant the 2nd week of July.........squash borers life cycle is over.


I gave you this tip for free
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/22 11:10 PM

up
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/22 03:07 AM

I'm planning on doing Tomato, Okra and Cucumbers this year... at least.
(we have a neighbor who makes killer homemade pickles)
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/22 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by Wytex
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Die winter, die!

Man , if only.
We get spring and planting outside in June.
Our March pattern is like this all month, wondering how far south it will go. Better watch out for your outside plants if it sinks your way.




Thanks for reminding me.

Had a really nice garden (& orchard) going last year, when this happened (check the date!) :

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Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/22 04:55 AM

man i hope it dont get me this week, i always get in to big of a hurry to plant my garden. kinda like crappie fishin the spawn.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/22 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by Poppa
man i hope it dont get me this week, i always get in to big of a hurry to plant my garden. kinda like crappie fishin the spawn.


Woke up to frost outside this morning - fortunately I don't have anything sensitive out yet.

But they are calling for mid-20's Friday night - that might just burn my sprouting turnips. frown
Posted By: SRPI89

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/22 09:57 PM

I’ve got my beds tilled and nearly ready. Our well water isn’t good. It’s approx 7-9,000 ppm total dissolved solids. It’s bad enough that if the sprinklers hit the live oak branches, it makes the leaves fall off. That being said, I’m going to put hoses for watering. Any special additives I should apply periodically?
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/22 10:02 PM

got mine all tilled up, bought some Okra,Cucumbers,Squash,Green beans and a few beefsteak mater's.
TSC's tomato's were $5... just down the road at nursery they were 2.98, AND Locally Grown!
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/22 04:09 AM

Originally Posted by SRPI89
I’ve got my beds tilled and nearly ready. Our well water isn’t good. It’s approx 7-9,000 ppm total dissolved solids. It’s bad enough that if the sprinklers hit the live oak branches, it makes the leaves fall off. That being said, I’m going to put hoses for watering. Any special additives I should apply periodically?

Originally Posted by TCM3
got mine all tilled up, bought some Okra,Cucumbers,Squash,Green beans and a few beefsteak mater's.
TSC's tomato's were $5... just down the road at nursery they were 2.98, AND Locally Grown!

no till is best but I will be tilling up mine this week as well eek2

All my starts are at the door ready to come out and play. I think I will play it safe and wait till the end of the month to let them come out and play. BUT feeling pretty confident they are ready to come out next week.......

Any one got any more photos of what they have ready as far as starts or plots?

ITS GO TIME!!!!!!!!
Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/22 04:55 PM

I plowed up a small area to plant some butternut squash, spaghetti squash, beets, peppers, tomatoes and cabbage. I have them started from seed and most are emerging and should be ready to plant at the end of the month.

I planted spaghetti squash there last year and had a bumper crop.


I'll post a picture of the starts later.

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Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/22 07:53 PM

Here’s my starts

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Posted By: drag13honda

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/22 12:13 PM

If I were to build a series of small raised beds, what width would you recommend building them? Likely would be 7 - 8 ft long. Thinking two rows of vegetables per bed, with access from either side, to be able to reach plants on both sides.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/22 01:04 PM

I used landscape timbers. I cut some in half making a 4-8 beds.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/22 01:45 PM

went andbought potting soil and black cow manure this morning.......putting mine in 5 gallon buckets so i can move them around,
Posted By: Ol Thumper

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/22 01:55 PM

The boss wanted somewhere to grow a few veggies this year living in our temporary home so I built her something to play with this year. She’s going to give vertical gardening a shot so I guess time will tell him this goes. Having it filled up today with some custom mixed soil from the nursery so she will be ready to go. [Linked Image]
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/22 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Ol Thumper
The boss wanted somewhere to grow a few veggies this year living in our temporary home so I built her something to play with this year. She’s going to give vertical gardening a shot so I guess time will tell him this goes. Having it filled up today with some custom mixed soil from the nursery so she will be ready to go. [Linked Image]


Nice work. That looks really good.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/22 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by drag13honda
If I were to build a series of small raised beds, what width would you recommend building them? Likely would be 7 - 8 ft long. Thinking two rows of vegetables per bed, with access from either side, to be able to reach plants on both sides.

look into the square foot method of growing . I think in the end it really depends on who the garden is for . Raised beds are good for a few reasons and one of them being you can bring the plants a little higher for older folks or some one with a bad back. Then if you keep you rows to what ever length you wish by 4 feet then you can easily access from both sides as you already know. Literally thousands of video on square foot gardening this is just the first one to pop up.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/22 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by Ol Thumper
The boss wanted somewhere to grow a few veggies this year living in our temporary home so I built her something to play with this year. She’s going to give vertical gardening a shot so I guess time will tell him this goes. Having it filled up today with some custom mixed soil from the nursery so she will be ready to go. [Linked Image]

cant go wrong there. Looks professional.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/22 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
I plowed up a small area to plant some butternut squash, spaghetti squash, beets, peppers, tomatoes and cabbage. I have them started from seed and most are emerging and should be ready to plant at the end of the month.

I planted spaghetti squash there last year and had a bumper crop.


I'll post a picture of the starts later.

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that spot looks perfect ..... Im sure you know but morning sun and shaded late evenings work pretty good.
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/22 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by fadetoblack64
went andbought potting soil and black cow manure this morning.......putting mine in 5 gallon buckets so i can move them around,

grab a bag of perlite, it was 15 dollars last year hopefully around the same price this year. ALL the potting soil they sale compacts like crazy. I guess for cost ,the claim it has perlite in it but seems like they put a tablespoon of it in the potting soil. I have always had trouble with store bought potting soil.

I know you are set and ready to go and probably have buckets but another option is the mesh bags. You can get in the same size but if you use that route then get some vermiculite. They come in all size up to a small pool size, you can easily make a raised bed. just unpack and fill.


the come in larger sizes and last a few years.





Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/22 11:43 PM

Im planted and done
Posted By: Tin Head

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/22 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by fadetoblack64
Im planted and done

saweet. Happy growing .
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/22 12:05 AM

Main garden is about done. Need more straw.

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Posted By: LeonCarr

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/22 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by Chickenman
Main garden is about done. Need more straw.

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Posted By: drag13honda

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/22 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by LeonCarr


You look like the WWE Wrestler The Undertaker operating a tiller grin That is a compliment I promise grin


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Posted By: drag13honda

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/22 04:21 AM

Originally Posted by Ol Thumper
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Very nice. What type of wood did you use? And did you seal it with anything? Is that 4x4 inside and 1x on the outsides?
Posted By: Ol Thumper

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/22 06:15 AM

Originally Posted by drag13honda
Originally Posted by Ol Thumper
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Very nice. What type of wood did you use? And did you seal it with anything? Is that 4x4 inside and 1x on the outsides?


I used treated lumber after researching it to be all copper based pressure treatment wood and safe for this use. The older stuff had arsenic in it and was bad mojo stuff but this newer per the Docs info is good to go. We may die next year from it but I trust him completely and ran with it. As far as the frame goes its all 4X4 posts bolted together and the outer 1” boards are just for aesthetics. The metal part is a full cattle panel welded to a 1” frame.
I’ve never built anything like this before so I just winged it until she gave her approval on it and I evacuated as quick as I could rofl
Posted By: drag13honda

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/22 12:41 AM

Lol, nice. I'm sure she will enjoy it. What measurements did you end up using? Is the bottom open?
Posted By: Ol Thumper

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/16/22 03:37 AM

Originally Posted by drag13honda
Lol, nice. I'm sure she will enjoy it. What measurements did you end up using? Is the bottom open?


It’s 4x12 inside and yes the bottoms open,
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/22 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by Sniper John
Mine have taken over the workbench in my office. A couple of the tomatoe plants are trying to make blooms now.

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I got my tomato plants in early, the day after the last freeze and were doing great. But dang, I have had not one, but two hail storms now. Many of the suckers have been broken off and my plants now look like sticks. They are not topped at least. They do have large root systems from those big pots, so am sure they will survive. But dang bang
Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/22 10:03 PM

I planted maters and peppers today. Tired of them on the heat mat and lights. Godspeed little dudes.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/22 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by Chickenman
Main garden is about done. Need more straw.



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Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/22 01:14 AM

Have onions, turnips, spinach, kale, carrots, beets, and cilantro - coming up nicely (from seeds) in rows already in the garden.
Got to do a little weeding & cleanup before taking any pics on those.

Over weekend I picked up this beautiful plat of tomatoes & peppers ready to go in, but I'm gonna wait till Friday,
as there is a pretty good chance for frost in N.TX. wed & thur nite.
Seems I learn a little something each year, and finally doing a lot of things right this year (+ luck) - so should be a pretty good year.
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Posted By: drag13honda

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/22 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by Ol Thumper
Originally Posted by drag13honda
Originally Posted by Ol Thumper
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Very nice. What type of wood did you use? And did you seal it with anything? Is that 4x4 inside and 1x on the outsides?


I used treated lumber after researching it to be all copper based pressure treatment wood and safe for this use. The older stuff had arsenic in it and was bad mojo stuff but this newer per the Docs info is good to go. We may die next year from it but I trust him completely and ran with it. As far as the frame goes its all 4X4 posts bolted together and the outer 1” boards are just for aesthetics. The metal part is a full cattle panel welded to a 1” frame.
I’ve never built anything like this before so I just winged it until she gave her approval on it and I evacuated as quick as I could rofl



Sorry, one more question for you after looking around at materials for a similar build. Where did you get the galvanized from? Did you use the thinner ones from lowes/home depot or did you find thicker ones elsewhere?
Posted By: Ol Thumper

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/22 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by drag13honda
Originally Posted by Ol Thumper
Originally Posted by drag13honda
Originally Posted by Ol Thumper
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Very nice. What type of wood did you use? And did you seal it with anything? Is that 4x4 inside and 1x on the outsides?


I used treated lumber after researching it to be all copper based pressure treatment wood and safe for this use. The older stuff had arsenic in it and was bad mojo stuff but this newer per the Docs info is good to go. We may die next year from it but I trust him completely and ran with it. As far as the frame goes its all 4X4 posts bolted together and the outer 1” boards are just for aesthetics. The metal part is a full cattle panel welded to a 1” frame.
I’ve never built anything like this before so I just winged it until she gave her approval on it and I evacuated as quick as I could rofl



Sorry, one more question for you after looking around at materials for a similar build. Where did you get the galvanized from? Did you use the thinner ones from lowes/home depot or did you find thicker ones elsewhere?


Home Depot, my parents have 6 raised beds made out of it with no center supports at all that have lasted 6 years so I didn’t think it needed anything thicker.
I also used SS screws on the entire build if that makes any difference to you, I figured they would look better and not rust out after a few years.
Posted By: drag13honda

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/22 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by Ol Thumper
Originally Posted by Ol Thumper
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Home Depot, my parents have 6 raised beds made out of it with no center supports at all that have lasted 6 years so I didn’t think it needed anything thicker.
I also used SS screws on the entire build if that makes any difference to you, I figured they would look better and not rust out after a few years.


Perfect. I assumed it would hold up to the task, but figured I'd ask if that's what you bought or if you went with something else.

Do y'all have any suggestions on good soil and where to buy it, for a raised bed?
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/22 03:12 PM

Mushroom dirt works as well as composted barnyard. I always mix is with regular garden soil. Sand helps for watermelons.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/22 05:43 PM

got 8 beefsteak tomato's in the ground. Squash,Okra, and beans are planted.
what do y'all use for your cucumbers to climb on? I'm thinking of using bull panel between two t-posts.
Got a pollinator flower seed mix out to. I'll probably go buy some already growing flowers to attract more pollinators.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/22 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
got 8 beefsteak tomato's in the ground. Squash,Okra, and beans are planted.
what do y'all use for your cucumbers to climb on? I'm thinking of using bull panel between two t-posts.
Got a pollinator flower seed mix out to. I'll probably go buy some already growing flowers to attract more pollinators.

up
My dozen various tomatoes plant and dozen various pepper plants went into the ground a few days ago,
and thankfully yesterdays storm-winds didn't snap any of them over! About 3/4 in rain last night and all is looking good.

Last year we put in about a dozen marigold plants in the garden, half of which I started from seed in seedling containers.
Really attracted the bees and butterflies.
Saved all the seed from those plants so this year I have literally about a pound of marigold seed!
Gonna really spice-up some of the landscaped spots here on the property with'em.
And put some in-between each tomato plant - supposed to really help with undesireable insects.
Did the same with zinnias on one border - got about 1/4 # of seed now for those.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/22 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
got 8 beefsteak tomato's in the ground. Squash,Okra, and beans are planted.
what do y'all use for your cucumbers to climb on? I'm thinking of using bull panel between two t-posts.
Got a pollinator flower seed mix out to. I'll probably go buy some already growing flowers to attract more pollinators.


Bull panel will work fine. I use 2' x 5' metal trellis I got at Walmart and make them into a U shape. Cukes cover the entire thing.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/22 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by TCM3
got 8 beefsteak tomato's in the ground. Squash,Okra, and beans are planted.
what do y'all use for your cucumbers to climb on? I'm thinking of using bull panel between two t-posts.
Got a pollinator flower seed mix out to. I'll probably go buy some already growing flowers to attract more pollinators.


Bull panel will work fine. I use 2' x 5' metal trellis I got at Walmart and make them into a U shape. Cukes cover the entire thing.

up
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/22 02:40 PM

Some Okra and Green beans are pushing up out of the dirt banana
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/22 10:42 PM

Main garden is planted. Starting tobacco and hope to transplant in 6 weeks. Looking to harvest and cure in October.

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Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/22 02:16 AM

Let me know how that tobaccy works out. I'm interested.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/22 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
Let me know how that tobaccy works out. I'm interested.


Me too. The entire process is lengthy but doable. Not very expensive. My family that harvested for personal use were never unsuccessful. I was a kid and they're long gone so I cant learn from them.

The steps are:
germinate indoors for 10 days +/-
maintain seedlings indoors - 6 weeks
grow for 90 days +/-
harvest entire stalks or leaves that turn
hang / pile / cure (tons of different methods)
I will press into bricks, vacuum seal, and store IF it smokes ok.
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/22 06:05 PM

Those tobacco seeds are smaller than a flea testicle.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/22 07:52 PM

Dang, some of these beds are really nice. I have a rabbit problem and just finished my rabbit fences. Got them on hinges so I can fold them off to work in the beds and fold them back on when done. Just a bunch of crooked [censored] scrap wood I had behind my shed. Didn’t feel like spending $100+ on wood for rabbits.

But after seeing some these I don’t even want to post my pics rofl

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Posted By: Greg

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/22 08:14 PM

Looks great to me Kyle
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/22 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by Greg
Looks great to me Kyle


I second that. Creative and looks good.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/22 08:27 PM

Thanks fellas.

We went to Galveston in spring break and my plants I started inside all died bang so about to just plant them directly in the ground and hope for the best.
Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/22 08:47 PM

I needed a good garden hoe but couldn’t find a quality one I liked. So I made a few out of a plow disk

Came out better than I could ever find in a store

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/22 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
Thanks fellas.

We went to Galveston in spring break and my plants I started inside all died bang so about to just plant them directly in the ground and hope for the best.


That sucks! I had a similar deal. We went to Galveston a couple weeks ago and when we got back the plants looked horrible. Peppers recovered quickly with some water but the tomatoes where all shriveled up. I planted them anyway. Been about a week in the ground now and they are recovering nicely and putting off a lot of new growth. Your raised beds look awesome.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/22 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
I needed a good garden hoe but couldn’t find a quality one I liked. So I made a few out of a plow disk

Came out better than I could ever find in a store

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That is great work! Well done sir.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/22 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by KRoyal
Thanks fellas.

We went to Galveston in spring break and my plants I started inside all died bang so about to just plant them directly in the ground and hope for the best.


That sucks! I had a similar deal. We went to Galveston a couple weeks ago and when we got back the plants looked horrible. Peppers recovered quickly with some water but the tomatoes where all shriveled up. I planted them anyway. Been about a week in the ground now and they are recovering nicely and putting off a lot of new growth. Your raised beds look awesome.


Yea mine weren’t as far along as yours they were dead dead when I got back lol. Glad yours came back.

Looking good Steve.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/22 11:17 PM

my tomatoes are setting fruit and loving life
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/04/22 11:41 PM

Stray Cats turned my garden into a giant cat-box I turn it all under, I'm done and Not going to deal with it.
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/22 01:39 AM

Theres a natural oil you can use that cats despise. Research what it is and apply around your plants and they will stop unloading in your garden, supposedly.
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/22 01:41 AM

I think its citrus
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/22 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
Theres a natural oil you can use that cats despise. Research what it is and apply around your plants and they will stop unloading in your garden, supposedly.

I've had so much bad luck gardening every time I try something always happens from bugs to storms it's not worth the headache to me I'm done.

Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/22 01:55 AM

Originally Posted by NORML as can be
Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
Theres a natural oil you can use that cats despise. Research what it is and apply around your plants and they will stop unloading in your garden, supposedly.

I've had so much bad luck gardening every time I try something always happens from bugs to storms it's not worth the headache to me, I'm done.

I bet weed(s) takeover don't they.... chicken peep
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/22 01:57 AM

Okra, Squash and Beans are rearing to grow! up
Tomato's are growing like weeds. Planted cucumbers on Saturday
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/22 01:59 AM

You know what they say IF you Can't grow Tomato plants you Can't grow.........
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/22 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by NORML as can be
You know what they say IF you Can't grow Tomato plants you Can't grow.........

never heard that particular saying
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/22 02:22 AM


Gardening isn't that hard, some people can grow in a crack in the sidewalk. It just takes patience and determination.
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/22 08:47 PM

I can't grow a squash if my life depended on it. However, herbs, tomatoes and peppers have done really well. I really enjoy growing hot peppers. Just having my brother and his kids come over to eat them raw off the plant is worth all the effort and seeing their faces when the heat hits them. Derek was a champ and sent me some pepper seeds before the growing season. They are off and running, won't be long before I am posting pics of Lemon Starburst, chocolate habs and more. I just hope Derek sent me what he says he did and I'm not starting a marijuana farm in my backyard.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/22 09:03 PM

Plant squash 1st week of July
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/05/22 09:05 PM

lol. I think the Lemon Starburst changed Bullfrogs life. It's all he talks about. Last year was my first year growing Chocolate Habs. They were awesome and a very high producer.
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/22 12:25 AM

I think you gave me 2 lemon starburst seeds and only 1 took off. I have been treating that plant like my child. Im super hyped about it and hope it produces. Its a beautiful pepper. The carolina reaper guy did an interview an was asked what the best pepper is to cook with, he replied scotch bonnet. I look forward to using as well. Also, there is a great hot sauce recipe for habs, I can post that later but its the only recipe I use and love it. The taste is on point and you can adjust heat level depending on pepper. I go for heat and the habs are about where I like it. About 3 years ago I grew some reapers and they where too much. Id chew them up and spit out so I wouldnt poop lava, lesson learned.
Posted By: maximum

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/22 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
I can't grow a squash if my life depended on it. . . . . .


I understand, and it kills me because I love to cook and eat squash.
I used to be able to grow it here, but something's happened to the
soil here, and the plants grow beautifully and large, but the fruits
just wither and fall. I made 1 good zucchini out of all my beautiful
plants last try. Good fertilizer and mulch. Beautiful foliage
Just have to buy it and grow what produces
Try some yard long green beans. I've had good luck with those
every year so far

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/22 01:20 AM

Do a soil test, your ph or nutrients may be off. I suggest A&M for the soil test.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/22 11:53 AM

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hugelkultur-different-approach-raised-beds-160810230.html
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/22 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Do a soil test, your ph or nutrients may be off. I suggest A&M for the soil test.


^This. Best $20 you'll spend. You can do the $12 test, but I like the $19 test to see where my Iron and Magnesium levels are at in correlation to the soil Ph.

http://soiltesting.tamu.edu/files/soilwebform.pdf
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/06/22 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by maximum
Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
I can't grow a squash if my life depended on it. . . . . .


I understand, and it kills me because I love to cook and eat squash.
I used to be able to grow it here, but something's happened to the
soil here, and the plants grow beautifully and large, but the fruits
just wither and fall. I made 1 good zucchini out of all my beautiful
plants last try. Good fertilizer and mulch. Beautiful foliage
Just have to buy it and grow what produces
Try some yard long green beans. I've had good luck with those
every year so far




I have been growing those yard long beans for years. Mine are the red ones and always a conversation starter when people notice the 3 ft red beans. I save several seeds every fall to plant the next year. I plant them in all the out of the way places around the yard on fences, in corners, base of my grapevines to intertwine with them, etc. They don't need much care and grow like weeds. Always a good conversation starter. Cook like green beans when small or the dried beans cook like black eyed peas if dried. And my wife's pet tortoise loves to eat them. They do get some kind of big yellow aphids on them in the summer, but they are easy to knock off with a water hose.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/22 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
lol. I think the Lemon Starburst changed Bullfrogs life. It's all he talks about. Last year was my first year growing Chocolate Habs. They were awesome and a very high producer.


Either of these 2 will change your life.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/22 09:15 PM

Onions and potatoes are going strong. Probably another 5 weeks based on history.. doing mostly reds with a couple golden potato plants and have been averaging 10-12 potatoes per plant. 2nd year doing onions and would guess I got a “store quality” size every 4th one planted. 1/2 are 1015s and others are yellow.
Got some buds on bell pepper plants and tomato plants but not photo worthy yet.

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Posted By: SRPI89

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/22 01:28 AM

Stevarino- those are awesome raised beds.
Posted By: Ol Thumper

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/22 06:40 PM

Can one of you geniuses tell me why these small cucumber plants keep wilting and the leaves turning white? She replaced several that looked horrible this weekend and the new ones are starting to do the same thing already. Everything else looks great but the cucumbers are most definitely not happy for some reason.
Posted By: log cabin

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/22 11:44 AM

Thumper,

i am having the same problem with my cucumbers. Everything else is thriving, i don't get it.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/22 12:02 PM

mosaic virus or powdery mildew
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/22 02:15 PM

Sounds like transplant shock. Cucurbits are notorious for it. I would mulch around them to keep soil temps warm. Water the area with blackstrap molasses at a rate of 2-3oz per gallon. Molasses will get the microbes going helping to increase soil temps and it's known to increase root mass. The whiting of the leaves could be sun burn of them not being hardened off. The overcast next few days should help. As fadetoblack64 mentioned. Fungus can move in pretty quickly, especially when we hit these 90deg days and 60's nights. The one thing working in our favor right now is the humidity has been low. I would start rotating 2 different fungicides. Something like Daconil and Serenade would be a good combo.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/22 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by SRPI89
Stevarino- those are awesome raised beds.

Thanks. The whole plot is 16x16, but made the letter “E” so that I can walk between the beds. So 2 walkways, 3 long beds, and one on the back. Plenty of room to walk around and work every square inch
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/22 01:43 AM

cucumbers are sprouting chicken
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/22 12:05 PM

My tomatoes are showing a little fruit but not enough for pictures. Maybe another week.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/22 07:57 PM

Moles
What would be safe to actually use IN the garden to kill moles, or keep them away?
Mole poison Victor confused2 confused2
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/22 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Moles
What would be safe to actually use IN the garden to kill moles, or keep them away?
Mole poison Victor confused2 confused2


This is what I use to catch and kill them. I walk down the runs and then find the active ones and set the traps. I have eliminated them from our yard and garden. It is amazing how 1 or 2 moles can tear a place up.
Mole Trap
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/22 02:35 AM

Originally Posted by Old Rabbit
Originally Posted by TCM3
Moles
What would be safe to actually use IN the garden to kill moles, or keep them away?
Mole poison Victor confused2 confused2


This is what I use to catch and kill them. I walk down the runs and then find the active ones and set the traps. I have eliminated them from our yard and garden. It is amazing how 1 or 2 moles can tear a place up.
Mole Trap

Interesting. Thanks!
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/22 07:04 PM

My white/yellow/red/orange pear tomato collection are growing like weeds now.

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Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/22 08:12 PM

My heirlooms are growing fast and blooming but ain't setting fruit.

Too many cold nights and unforgiving wind
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/22 09:21 PM

You boys are way ahead of me, but only been planted for 2 weeks because I had to start over. But corn, carrots, squash, and zucchini are coming in nicely. Jalapeños, 3 types of tomatoes, Romain lettuce, and all color bell peppers are starting to peak through the ground.

In the corner there I have some zombie garlic plants that made it through all of our freezes and are coming back with the spring weather.

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/22 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
You boys are way ahead of me, but only been planted for 2 weeks because I had to start over. But corn, carrots, squash, and zucchini are coming in nicely. Jalapeños, 3 types of tomatoes, Romain lettuce, and all color bell peppers are starting to peak through the ground.

In the corner there I have some zombie garlic plants that made it through all of our freezes and are coming back with the spring weather.

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Growing your Miracle Meds out there too? wink grin
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/23/22 10:02 PM

Lol negative grasshopper
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/22 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
Lol negative grasshopper


While in the fire service we had use of a house donated to us for training because it was going to be torn down a few days later. Pulling ceiling I notice some PVC up there. Turned out the entire attic had a drip irrigation system throughout and several outlets wired in. It must have had quite an impressive hidden grow up there at one time. Of course I am sure it was just for medicinal purposes.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/22 07:52 PM

ALMOST an 1" of rain today banana banana Good for the garden.
Posted By: drag13honda

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/22 04:40 AM

Question for you pepper experts. How do the red habanero peppers compare to the "normal" orange habaneros? Heat level, growth, production? I saw red habanero plants at HEB tonight, almost bought one, but wanted to ask the pepper experts here first. A quick google search seems to show a couple different varieties that are red, is there a way to tell which one it would be? I think they were just labeled with a generic "red habanero pepper", but will have to look closer.
Posted By: Ol Thumper

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/26/22 07:57 AM

The last few days have seen everything take off, we’ve started getting strawberry’s out of the greenhouse and have tomatoes and peppers growing now. [Linked Image]
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/22 09:50 PM

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Posted By: maximum

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/27/22 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by drag13honda
Question for you pepper experts. How do the red habanero peppers compare to the "normal" orange habaneros? Heat level, growth, production? I saw red habanero plants at HEB tonight, almost bought one, but wanted to ask the pepper experts here first. A quick google search seems to show a couple different varieties that are red, is there a way to tell which one it would be? I think they were just labeled with a generic "red habanero pepper", but will have to look closer.



JMHO- if you're still young, I'd advise you to slack off on the hot stuff
If you abuse your stomach and exit with hot foods all your life, when you
get old like me you'll regret a good many of your excesses you indulged
in when younger ( but not all of them)

Good Luck
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/28/22 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by maximum
Originally Posted by drag13honda
Question for you pepper experts. How do the red habanero peppers compare to the "normal" orange habaneros? Heat level, growth, production? I saw red habanero plants at HEB tonight, almost bought one, but wanted to ask the pepper experts here first. A quick google search seems to show a couple different varieties that are red, is there a way to tell which one it would be? I think they were just labeled with a generic "red habanero pepper", but will have to look closer.



JMHO- if you're still young, I'd advise you to slack off on the hot stuff
If you abuse your stomach and exit with hot foods all your life, when you
get old like me you'll regret a good many of your excesses you indulged
in when younger ( but not all of them)

Good Luck


Lmao bs
Posted By: BigfootWallace

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/22 01:52 AM

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Here are my setups. My main raised bed is right next to the house. The orchard and in ground garden is about 300 yards away. The raised beds always do better, you can barely see the tomatoes and squash around the edges of the in ground garden. I planted everything at the same time, the tomatoes in the raised beds are at least 3x as big.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/22 01:57 AM

Looking good Bigfoot!
Posted By: BigfootWallace

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/22 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Looking good Bigfoot!


Thank you sir. Everything would really take off if the wind would die down. We have had what seems like a full month of 30+ mph wind every single day here. Feel like I'm out in West Texas lol
Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/22 03:30 PM

Looks good!
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/22 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by BigfootWallace
Originally Posted by TCM3
Looking good Bigfoot!


Thank you sir. Everything would really take off if the wind would die down. We have had what seems like a full month of 30+ mph wind every single day here. Feel like I'm out in West Texas lol


Saw on the news the other day that this is the windiest spring since like 1996. Your garden is on point. Great job
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/22 01:18 PM

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/22 01:19 PM

Not much happening with tomatoes, have 3 or 4 small green beefsteak. Buy I think all of their energy is going to growing. They're bushy.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/22 12:39 AM

Is that Sevin dust?
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/22 12:54 AM

popcorn
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/22 01:12 AM

Yep. I know it kills the pollinators, but it got rid of the bugs that were starting to eat on my plants.I actually have not seen very many bugs going for the pollen on any blooms prior.
Any suggestions for something else that will work? I think you told me something last year but i can't remember. hammer
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/22 02:00 AM

What kind of bugs do you have on the squash?
Posted By: mikei

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/22 02:10 AM

My problem here in Mason is the darned deer! I have to cover everything with chicken wire. If I don't, the deer will eat it all, right down to the dirt line. Worst I've ever seen, and if the drought doesn't break soon and give them some forage, it's going to be very long and frustrating and unproductive growing season!
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/22 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
What kind of bugs do you have on the squash?

They were rather large, they kind of looked liked stink bugs, the plants were looking slightly wilted and the leaves had paled, that'd when I notice the bugs on the.

Plants are looking healthier now and blooming.
I know some people use ladybugs for pest control, but I think these are little large for them to handle confused2


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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/22 02:53 AM

I had to put this up to keep them out


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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/22 02:56 AM


I've never had much problem with deer, however the local rabbit's have been getting bold.
Added an extra hot wire down low. Stopped that. grin
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/22 02:56 AM

Pick them off and throw them in soapy water, sevin is the debil
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/22 03:00 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
Pick them off and throw them in soapy water, sevin is the debil

Roger that.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/22 03:39 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
Pick them off and throw them in soapy water, sevin is the debil



I use Castile Liquid Soap in a pump sprayer at 4 tablespoons per gallon. Or less. You could figure a ratio from that for a smaller spray bottle, but I would not mix it any stronger. I use Eucalyptus scented because it was cheaper at the time, but I think most people use Peppermint for a repelling quality. Other dishwashing soaps will work too, but you want something without other additives. I also pour in an unmeasured dash of vegetable oil to help it stick. Stink bugs breath through their skin. The soapy water mix will coat and drown them. Fatty acids in the soap also paralyze and kill aphids. I do know I was able to repel cats from marking pots by my front approach due the strong eucalyptus smell. It or one of the other scented ones might make your plants undesirable to deer at least temporarily. It would take a trial run. It might attract them for all I know.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/22 03:11 PM

It's coming alive. Adding some rain water collection too. Not so much for gardening though.

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/22 09:03 PM

Well we just got a ton of Hail... about marble size. Doesn't look good........
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/01/22 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by Chickenman
It's coming alive. Adding some rain water collection too. Not so much for gardening though.

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Nice setup for the water collection. Here is mine, it works great collects a ton of water off the roof.

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Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/22 10:06 AM

Looks good! I need to wrap my head around an overflow. We got 2.75" overnight. Missed opportunity to get it hooked up.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/02/22 10:09 AM

Tobacco was transplanted yesterday before the monsoon. 40 plants. Hope to get 3 ounces per plant.
That's 4800 cigarettes roflmao

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Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/09/22 08:43 PM

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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/22 12:44 AM

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Posted By: BayouGuy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/22 03:14 PM

Looks like the MelonTree is producing a bumper crop this year..
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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/22 04:05 PM

roflmao
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/22 03:45 AM

Finally got the one that’s been digging up my garden! All I had handy was a Tpost
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Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/22 04:08 AM

Congrats!!! T-posts can kill up
Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/22 04:10 AM

First Acorn squash showing up!

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Posted By: bill oxner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/22 11:51 AM

Cool.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/22 12:21 PM

everything in my garden has gone nuts this year.... Tomato plants are HUGE.... i need to find another way to support them.... squash..i think more came up than i planted rofl But gonna have a lot of squash this year...
I only plant a short short row of green beans since we don't eat them a whole lot.... they're sending runners/vines everywhere and are about 5' tall...
Posted By: Ol Thumper

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/22 12:47 PM

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Posted By: rickt300

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/22 03:58 PM

Cool what are the dimensions and soil type? Getting ready to build several raised beds. From now on the only thing that gets grown in the ground are beans and okra.
Posted By: Ol Thumper

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/13/22 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by rickt300
Cool what are the dimensions and soil type? Getting ready to build several raised beds. From now on the only thing that gets grown in the ground are beans and okra.


It’s a 4X12, I filled the bottom of it with old firewood and the rest with some type of mix the local nursery had made up for raised beds.
Posted By: BigfootWallace

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/22 01:32 AM

Everything growing good here but really need some rain. Salad greens, kale, arugula and swish chard are exploding. Did some different kinds of squash this year, flying saucer, green striped, cocozelle and a few others. Should be eating the first ones of the year in the next day or so.

Wife made some honeysuckle syrup since the ones we have are full of flowers. Everyone has raved about it, first time she has tried making it.

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Posted By: bobcat1

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/22 12:09 AM

This tight arse clay we have ain't getting it done.

What is a good store bought compost? A friend recommended mushroom dirt. This will be a container garden. What say you gardening pros?
Posted By: BigfootWallace

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/22 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by bobcat1
This tight arse clay we have ain't getting it done.

What is a good store bought compost? A friend recommended mushroom dirt. This will be a container garden. What say you gardening pros?


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I have used this for years if just needing a little. Most stores sell it.

I get a truckload from a compost yard here locally if I need a large amount.
Posted By: bobcat1

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/22 12:38 AM

Well that's not available in Denton. What about Black Cow?
Posted By: BigfootWallace

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/22 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by bobcat1
Well that's not available in Denton. What about Black Cow?



The Black Cow has really good reviews but I have never tried it because it's double the price of the other. I bet it works good though.
Posted By: bobcat1

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/22 02:28 AM

Thanks. I'll give it a try
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/22 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by bobcat1
Well that's not available in Denton. What about Black Cow?


Black Cow is good stuff; a bit expensive, but worth it.
If you have heavy clay I would also till/mix in some peat-moss - it really helps improve the clay;
Atwoods in Crossroads has 2.2 cu ft compressed bale for 10.99 in stock- it's outside around back of the store.
-->wet/soak the peat-moss in a bucket with water before mixing in, so it doesn't all blow away.

That 'Timberline' stuff for 2.49 is ok if all you can get, but it has a lot of twigs and wood chips in it so it's not really a good deal or bargain.

Posted By: bobcat1

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/22 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by bobcat1
Well that's not available in Denton. What about Black Cow?


Black Cow is good stuff; a bit expensive, but worth it.
If you have heavy clay I would also till/mix in some peat-moss - it really helps improve the clay;
Atwoods in Crossroads has 2.2 cu ft compressed bale for 10.99 in stock- it's outside around back of the store.
-->wet/soak the peat-moss in a bucket with water before mixing in, so it doesn't all blow away.

That 'Timberline' stuff for 2.49 is ok if all you can get, but it has a lot of twigs and wood chips in it so it's not really a good deal or bargain.


Thanks my friend!
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/22 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by bobcat1
Thanks my friend!
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Another option if you got more than a small garden is to get a load of 'Dyno-lite' from the Denton Landfill/Compost sales.
$30 for a 1cu yard load - that's 27 cu feet - will fill the bed of a standard size pickup - they load ya up- drive thru service - a pretty good deal.
The 'Dyno-lite' has no 'biosolids' - just plain composted plant materials.
https://www.cityofdenton.com/181/Dyno-Dirt

also, their 'dyno double-grind' is wood chips - only $17.50/yrd , again will fill the bed of a pickup - great for topping soil for moisture conserving/weed control.
Bring a tarp/cord to cover load if driving on highway.
Posted By: bobcat1

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/22 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by bobcat1
Thanks my friend!
up

Another option if you got more than a small garden is to get a load of 'Dyno-lite' from the Denton Landfill/Compost sales.
$30 for a 1cu yard load - that's 27 cu feet - will fill the bed of a standard size pickup - they load ya up- drive thru service - a pretty good deal.
The 'Dyno-lite' has no 'biosolids' - just plain composted plant materials.
https://www.cityofdenton.com/181/Dyno-Dirt

also, their 'dyno double-grind' is wood chips - only $17.50/yrd , again will fill the bed of a pickup - great for topping soil for moisture conserving/weed control.
Bring a tarp/cord to cover load if driving on highway.

Good info but this is a small in number container garden this year.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/22 11:35 PM

Help!!! I got squash vine borers!!!! What do I do?
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/22 11:43 PM

I remember hearing about something you can inject into the plant?
Posted By: drag13honda

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/22 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
I remember hearing about something you can inject into the plant?

I do not know this from experience, just from a google search, so take it for what it's worth.

"The bacteria Bacillus thuringiensis v. kustaki (“Bt”) is a natural insecticide that can be injected into and applied to the squash stems."

"Get a 3cc hypodermic needle from a medical supply store, and sterilize the needle’s tip in a mix of half bleach and half water. Then fill the syringe with 1cc of liquid BT.

About an inch and a half above the soil line, you will carefully insert the needle into the stem, going in about halfway. Then slowly press down the plunger to fill the lower stem with BT."

Also says

"Sprinkle diatomaceous earth around the stalks when the squash vines are small or the threat of squash vine borers is high (early to mid-summer). Reapply after rain. Also, build up the soil around the vines. Or, sprinkle black pepper around the plants as a defense."

Also will be curious to see what others have to say.

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/22 02:45 AM

Liquid BT!! that's what i heard about... Thank you for the other info as well!
Posted By: drag13honda

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/22 03:29 AM

Ha, no problem glad you found what you were looking for. It was a good chance for me to learn something new anyways, so everybody wins.
Posted By: drag13honda

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/22 08:35 PM

Has or does anybody here have any experience growing lemon trees in Texas? I've been considering getting a lemon tree, possibly Meyer Lemon, but would love to hear more from someone with experience.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/22 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by drag13honda
Has or does anybody here have any experience growing lemon trees in Texas? I've been considering getting a lemon tree, possibly Meyer Lemon, but would love to hear more from someone with experience.


I bought a Improved Meyer Lemon early last year. I got 7 lemons last year. I probably have a good 20+ on there now. They are a little bigger than a marble right now. I added a Persian Lime this year and it's doing good too. I have them in like 15gal pots so I can put them in the garage during winter. I take them out on warm day in winter.

This was April 4th. Lemon was full of blooms and smelled awesome.
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Posted By: jetdad

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/22 08:42 PM

I think TCM3 has a lemon tree if memory serves. You might PM him and ask.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/22 10:28 PM

Mine is a Limon (Lemon/Lime) ..... It did fantastic 2 years ago, but the 21 freeze set it way back... I might get some off of it this year, it's about 4 feet tall now and bushing out.
Pretty much as long you keep it warm, it should do good.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/22 10:29 PM

I got some BT today, I injected any plants that looked like i could save or hadn't been affected as well as sprayed it around the base of any good plants left.... it looks like i may have to replant squash though...
Posted By: Ol Thumper

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/22 10:37 PM

The boss has a lemon and lime tree, their in monster sized pots and put in a greenhouse during the winter but their loaded with fruit this year and have always done very well.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/22 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
I got some BT today, I injected any plants that looked like i could save or hadn't been affected as well as sprayed it around the base of any good plants left.... it looks like i may have to replant squash though...


Bt is good stuff but has a very short life/residual. Like a few days. It breaks down very quickly when exposed to light. Get Spinosad. Works in a similar fasion but the residual is much longer. I think it's an A&M study that found it to last up to like 3 weeks. I need to go back and find/reread it.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/22 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by TCM3
I got some BT today, I injected any plants that looked like i could save or hadn't been affected as well as sprayed it around the base of any good plants left.... it looks like i may have to replant squash though...


Bt is good stuff but has a very short life/residual. Like a few days. It breaks down very quickly when exposed to light. Get Spinosad. Works in a similar fasion but the residual is much longer. I think it's an A&M study that found it to last up to like 3 weeks. I need to go back and find/reread it.

Thanks!
I guess i should keep it in as dark a place as possible, that may help
Posted By: drag13honda

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/22 12:29 AM

Derek, jetdad, Ol Thumper, and TCM3 - thanks for the feedback on the lemon/lime trees. I'd likely start with a lemon tree, but would likely add a lime tree as well. My biggest question was going to be if y'all were growing in pots and moving in during winter/cold snaps or if they were planted in ground and just making efforts to keep them warm, but y'all beat me to the punch. I saw some nice Improved Meyer Lemon starts at the store yesterday, I may have to go back and snag one. Sounds like pots seems to be more common, which was the way I was leaning. TCM3, is yours in the ground? Although I'd imagine being in Conroe, winters may be more mild than up here in DFW?
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/22 12:38 AM

yes sir, mine is in the ground... I really need to move it as the silver leaf maple has grown up and blocks some sun from it.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/22 02:14 AM

Originally Posted by drag13honda
Derek, jetdad, Ol Thumper, and TCM3 - thanks for the feedback on the lemon/lime trees. I'd likely start with a lemon tree, but would likely add a lime tree as well. My biggest question was going to be if y'all were growing in pots and moving in during winter/cold snaps or if they were planted in ground and just making efforts to keep them warm, but y'all beat me to the punch. I saw some nice Improved Meyer Lemon starts at the store yesterday, I may have to go back and snag one. Sounds like pots seems to be more common, which was the way I was leaning. TCM3, is yours in the ground? Although I'd imagine being in Conroe, winters may be more mild than up here in DFW?


How tall was the start? You can get a 4' ready to produce for like $65. Don't get one of 1' starts for $20+. The extra $40 is money well spent. And if NTX don't plant it in ground.
Posted By: drag13honda

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/22 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by drag13honda
Derek, jetdad, Ol Thumper, and TCM3 - thanks for the feedback on the lemon/lime trees. I'd likely start with a lemon tree, but would likely add a lime tree as well. My biggest question was going to be if y'all were growing in pots and moving in during winter/cold snaps or if they were planted in ground and just making efforts to keep them warm, but y'all beat me to the punch. I saw some nice Improved Meyer Lemon starts at the store yesterday, I may have to go back and snag one. Sounds like pots seems to be more common, which was the way I was leaning. TCM3, is yours in the ground? Although I'd imagine being in Conroe, winters may be more mild than up here in DFW?


How tall was the start? You can get a 4' ready to produce for like $65. Don't get one of 1' starts for $20+. The extra $40 is money well spent. And if NTX don't plant it in ground.


I'd say give or take about a foot. Some may have been taller, but I'd say no more than 2'. Where does one buy the 4' tree?

Also any recommendations on where to get a 15 gallon pot from?
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/22 02:32 AM

I don't know about DFW area, but Growers Outlet in Willis is charging $50 for a lemon tree, about 4 foot tall.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/19/22 04:16 PM

I got mine at my local Nursery. I would think most Nurseries would have them. Mine local place is pretty small and they stock Improved Meyer, Key lime and Persian Lime. I got my pot at Walmart.
Posted By: jetdad

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/22 07:36 PM

The grasshoppers are starting to hit my onions hard. They are not ready to pull. Best ideas???
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/22 08:12 PM

You can try Pyganic 1.4. Label says it controls grasshoppers and is approved for gardens.
Posted By: jetdad

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/22 08:15 PM

Thanks. They're not far from pulling but have at least another couple of weeks. Grasshoppers are ravenous.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/22 10:04 PM

Potato day! I didn’t think they were quite ready but I needed some real estate for sweet potatoes. This was the best year yet averaging 18 potatoes per plant! I don’t really think I did anything different either..
grabbed a few onions too, but have a bunch of yellows to dig up still.
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Posted By: drag13honda

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/22 12:45 AM

Thanks to the recommendations here, I checked out one of the local nurseries around the area, and found a nice sized Meyer Lemon tree. With it in the pot, it's a little taller than I am and already has a handful of lemons on it. The $65 for a tree that I know is producing seemed like a no brainer, to me.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/22 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by drag13honda
Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by drag13honda
Derek, jetdad, Ol Thumper, and TCM3 - thanks for the feedback on the lemon/lime trees. I'd likely start with a lemon tree, but would likely add a lime tree as well. My biggest question was going to be if y'all were growing in pots and moving in during winter/cold snaps or if they were planted in ground and just making efforts to keep them warm, but y'all beat me to the punch. I saw some nice Improved Meyer Lemon starts at the store yesterday, I may have to go back and snag one. Sounds like pots seems to be more common, which was the way I was leaning. TCM3, is yours in the ground? Although I'd imagine being in Conroe, winters may be more mild than up here in DFW?


How tall was the start? You can get a 4' ready to produce for like $65. Don't get one of 1' starts for $20+. The extra $40 is money well spent. And if NTX don't plant it in ground.


I'd say give or take about a foot. Some may have been taller, but I'd say no more than 2'. Where does one buy the 4' tree?

Also any recommendations on where to get a 15 gallon pot from?


Lowes on Forest in Dallas has several Meyers Lemons about a foot tall and cheap, but they have some large ones about 4' out by the trees that were really not that much more. All of the large ones had lemons on them. I picked up one of those last month and potted it.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/22/22 06:46 PM

My tomato wall is taller than me already. The Mila one sure is different looking and taking forever for the first ones to ripen. Peppers have been producing like crazy.

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/22 12:33 AM

so far all of the squash plants i treated with BT have not been affected by the vine borers.
Posted By: Ol Thumper

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/22 05:13 AM

We got our first cherry tomatoes, squash, zucchini’s, jalapeños and a gallon jar full of blackberries this weekend. We should also have our first cucumbers and bell peppers later in the week so everything here is growing pretty decent.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/22 04:44 PM

Peppers are starting to trickle in:
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Harvesting some nice red onions now too:
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Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/22 04:48 PM

What time of year are y’all planting onions? I know they take time.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/22 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by rickym
What time of year are y’all planting onions? I know they take time.


I do later Nov to mid December depending on Dixondale's shipping schedule. A few of us here go in together and make a single order to split and get the price down. I pulled my onions and garlic yesterday.

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Posted By: mikei

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/22 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by rickym
What time of year are y’all planting onions? I know they take time.


January/February!
Posted By: BigfootWallace

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/23/22 09:53 PM

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Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/22 12:05 AM

Any suggestions for keeping cabbage free of those pesky worms/Caterpillars
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/22 03:28 AM

Originally Posted by rickym
What time of year are y’all planting onions? I know they take time.

Planted mine mid Feb, when local store had them available with green tops.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/24/22 01:36 PM

Woohoo - picked another 3 pounds of various peppers today, before the monsoon arrives:
(Cherry tomatoes starting to trickle in too)

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Posted By: BigfootWallace

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/22 01:07 AM

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These "Golden Zucchini" are doing really well and are pretty cool looking. I'm not sure why but all of my squash plants leaves are turning yellow. They are still producing but not looking near as good as the Zucchini which are deep green.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/22 03:07 AM

Wow - those look really cool!

better check the base of those squash plants for borers!
Posted By: BigfootWallace

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/22 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Wow - those look really cool!

better check the base of those squash plants for borers!


Thanks! I thought maybe a fungus or they needed some fertilizer. What's odd is in both area's I have squash and zucchini planted side by side I have the same thing happening. Deep green zucchini and squash turning yellow. I don't know why it would affect one and not the other.
Posted By: Biscuit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/22 09:40 PM

Wife planted some sunflowers, what can she use to make these bugs go away ?

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Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/22 04:46 AM

Try neem oil.
Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/22 07:29 PM

Will neem oil work on cabbage??
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/22 12:07 AM

Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
Will neem oil work on cabbage??


Neem oil would help. Can mix in with cayenne pepper water too:

Cayenne Pepper Powder
Mix 2 to 3 tbsp. of cayenne pepper powder into half a gallon of water and bring it to a boil. Allow the cayenne pepper to steep in the water for 30 to 45 minutes. One-half cup of chopped, dried cayenne pepper can be used in place of the powder. Allow the chopped peppers to steep for 30 to 45 minutes as well. Apply it after the solution cools.

Add Eucalyptus Oil (or neem oil)
Add 8 to 10 drops of essential oil of eucalyptus oil into the cayenne water and mix well. Fill a spray bottle with the cayenne pepper and eucalyptus oil mixture and mist it on both the top and bottom of the leaves most at risk from cabbage worms.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/22 02:40 AM

Be careful using the "oils". They are oils and have temperature restrictions. You can actually do more harm than good using them in heat/summer, and or too much AI mixed per label recs. With Sunflowers if you are growing them for color and not seed use a commercial pesticide like Demand CS at low rates, or nothing at all. The holes won't hurt anything and the plant will be fine. Spray everything but the flowers if you do. Food stuff like cabbage go with BT or Spinosad.
Posted By: SRPI89

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/22 02:50 PM

Bermuda grass has infiltrated my garden in a heavy way. Is there anything I can spread that won’t kill my tomatoes or pepper plants?
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/22 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by SRPI89
Bermuda grass has infiltrated my garden in a heavy way. Is there anything I can spread that won’t kill my tomatoes or pepper plants?

I've used roundup/glyphosate mixed up 50% stronger, applied with sponge mop (never sprayer) for situation like this before.
just be super careful not to slop any on keeper plants, and I've used cardboard to isolate where grass is right up against plants.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/22 07:45 PM

Any idea what kind of bug this is? I now have hundreds.

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Posted By: Tbar

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/22 08:00 PM

A Tick of some variety...
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/22 08:17 PM

Stink bug nymph.
Posted By: jetdad

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/22 09:44 PM

I'm not sure what it is, but it is not a tick. Ticks are arachnids, have eight legs and no antennae. Looks a lot like a tick though.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/22 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by jetdad
I'm not sure what it is, but it is not a tick. Ticks are arachnids, have eight legs and no antennae. Looks a lot like a tick though.



It's a stink bug.

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Green stink bug adult, eggs, and 3 nymph instars. Photo: Purdue University
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/30/22 01:11 AM

Dang. Thats not good. I always see a ton of leaf footed bugs when the figs and tomatoes turn. I guess I'll be fighting these off too.
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/31/22 11:17 PM

I was picking tomatoes today and noticed those big grey stink bugs on one of my plants. What works for those?
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/22 02:18 PM

Maters are starting to come in nicely:
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even a jumbo yellow mater:
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this was just half of that jumbo yellow - delicious!
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the cured red-onions we havn't eaten yet - they've been going fast...
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sandplums fruiting like crazy this year...
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Main garden doing nicely:
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Heavenly Father had other plans for my spring corn patch this year - I'll yield to Him smile
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Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/22 04:40 PM

Very nice! My corn and one squash plant is about the only thing doing decent. Tomatoes, peppers, and onions are none existent.

I don't think my garden spot is getting enough sunlight. until about 11am the house blocks the sun and after about 4pm our trees block the sun. So only getting about 5ish hours of sunlight a day. I water every day, just not seeing any growth.

Thinking this weekend going to HD or Lowes and getting some plants that are ready to go and transplant them.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/22 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
Very nice! My corn and one squash plant is about the only thing doing decent. Tomatoes, peppers, and onions are none existent.
I don't think my garden spot is getting enough sunlight. until about 11am the house blocks the sun and after about 4pm our trees block the sun. So only getting about 5ish hours of sunlight a day. I water every day, just not seeing any growth.
Thinking this weekend going to HD or Lowes and getting some plants that are ready to go and transplant them.


5hrs is certainly enough to get good growth, and decent fruit. More is better for bumper-yield fruit, but should still get plenty w 5hr.
Careful with watering; every day is probably too much once plants are established - last year my spring garden was terrible because of all the constant rain.
Once my plants are established, I'm only watering when they need it, no sooner than every 3 days or so.
Too much can be as bad/worse than not-enough; daily watering can wash-away nutrients before plant has time to absorb them.
I've also noticed big difference between tap-water for watering -vs- (saved) rainwater.
Nowadays I try to use rainwater when starting/establishing - and tap water that sat in buckets a few days when low on rainwater, on young plants.
I'm using tap water for irrigation - only when the plants need it - 3 to 5 days or so between waterings only as necessary.
After a drenching rain, I don't water for at least a week or so.


Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/22 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by KRoyal
Very nice! My corn and one squash plant is about the only thing doing decent. Tomatoes, peppers, and onions are none existent.
I don't think my garden spot is getting enough sunlight. until about 11am the house blocks the sun and after about 4pm our trees block the sun. So only getting about 5ish hours of sunlight a day. I water every day, just not seeing any growth.
Thinking this weekend going to HD or Lowes and getting some plants that are ready to go and transplant them.


5hrs is certainly enough to get good growth, and decent fruit. More is better for bumper-yield fruit, but should still get plenty w 5hr.
Careful with watering; every day is probably too much once plants are established - last year my spring garden was terrible because of all the constant rain.
Once my plants are established, I'm only watering when they need it, no sooner than every 3 days or so.
Too much can be as bad/worse than not-enough; daily watering can wash-away nutrients before plant has time to absorb them.
I've also noticed big difference between tap-water for watering -vs- (saved) rainwater.
Nowadays I try to use rainwater when starting/establishing - and tap water that sat in buckets a few days when low on rainwater, on young plants.
I'm using tap water for irrigation - only when the plants need it - 3 to 5 days or so between waterings only as necessary.
After a drenching rain, I don't water for at least a week or so.



Wow, thanks for the advice. I've been wayyyy over watering then. I do have 3 55 gallon barrels hooked up to my rain catchment system. I'll back off on the watering and use rain water only. My garden is rather small only 2 4x8 feet raised beds. Doing the square foot gardening thing.
Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/22 08:07 PM

My squash is producing very well this year. I’ve got more zucchini than ever. The spaghetti squash and butternut squash looks good and should start to pick some in the next week. Acorn squash is slightly slower.

Haven’t seen any vine borers thank goodness!!

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Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/22 08:20 PM

Looking good Steve!
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/22 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by KRoyal
Very nice! My corn and one squash plant is about the only thing doing decent. Tomatoes, peppers, and onions are none existent.
I don't think my garden spot is getting enough sunlight. until about 11am the house blocks the sun and after about 4pm our trees block the sun. So only getting about 5ish hours of sunlight a day. I water every day, just not seeing any growth.
Thinking this weekend going to HD or Lowes and getting some plants that are ready to go and transplant them.


5hrs is certainly enough to get good growth, and decent fruit. More is better for bumper-yield fruit, but should still get plenty w 5hr.
Careful with watering; every day is probably too much once plants are established - last year my spring garden was terrible because of all the constant rain.
Once my plants are established, I'm only watering when they need it, no sooner than every 3 days or so.
Too much can be as bad/worse than not-enough; daily watering can wash-away nutrients before plant has time to absorb them.
I've also noticed big difference between tap-water for watering -vs- (saved) rainwater.
Nowadays I try to use rainwater when starting/establishing - and tap water that sat in buckets a few days when low on rainwater, on young plants.
I'm using tap water for irrigation - only when the plants need it - 3 to 5 days or so between waterings only as necessary.
After a drenching rain, I don't water for at least a week or so.



Wow, thanks for the advice. I've been wayyyy over watering then. I do have 3 55 gallon barrels hooked up to my rain catchment system. I'll back off on the watering and use rain water only. My garden is rather small only 2 4x8 feet raised beds. Doing the square foot gardening thing.



I was guilty of over watering too, until I went to a gardening class. Learned how to do the ol' poke test (for gardens), just poke your finger down into the soil. If it's damp even a little, don't water. If dry, then water. I had my garden set up to water on timers, and I was over watering pretty bad.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/22 11:00 PM

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Small First batch of fresh fried okra!!!!
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/22 11:11 PM

^^^ Your Mama cooked that bolt
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/22 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by NORML as can be
^^^ Your Mama cooked that bolt

I usually make the African American version of food.........
Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/22 11:38 PM

Dang that looks good 😊
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/22 11:47 PM

That does look really good. French fries and fried okra are really the only two fried foods I like. I could so much fried okra lol.

Went and picked up a few plants after work and got them transplanted. Had a little help from my buddy.

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Posted By: Old Shakie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/22 07:17 PM

Ok...I am officially pizzed. Something is eating my tomatoes. I had two really nice big ones about ready to come off. Went out this morning and both were partly eaten along with two other smaller ones pulled off. What is eating them? I have coons, possums, skunks and squirrels.
Any commit as to who the guilty party might be. I plan on making war on all them. I will have plenty more coming but want to stop the mater poachers before things get out of hand. I plan on setting the live trap and doing target practice on the squirrels. Any suggestions welcome.
Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/22 07:28 PM

I had the same thing happen. I think it was rats. But could have been squirrels. I ended up moving them from my back yard to my farm an hour away. It set them back a bit transplanting them but so far no more partially eaten maters.... smile
Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/22 08:09 PM

I finally got water at my farm. Just need to get the shutoff inspected then I can complete the water line to the yard hydrant.

Looking forward to not hauling water up there clap

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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/22 10:56 PM

I’ve got nothing to show this season. Chose not to plant any container tomatoes, due to the drought.
I’ve been waiting on Mr. bill to post his pics, since his garden usually produces earlier than most.
Posted By: MRR

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/09/22 05:29 AM

Always enjoy looking at everyone's gardens so I thought I might share a short video of mine.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/09/22 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by MRR
Always enjoy looking at everyone's gardens so I thought I might share a short video of mine.

That's not a garden - that's a Jungle! eek2
Amazing looking plants!
Great idea on those tire stacks - I'm gonna have to try some potatoes that way. Thx for posting.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/09/22 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
I finally got water at my farm. Just need to get the shutoff inspected then I can complete the water line to the yard hydrant.
Looking forward to not hauling water up there clap
what size is that line / valve ? seems awfully small.
Posted By: greenen

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/09/22 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
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Small First batch of fresh fried okra!!!!

Dang. Mine haven't even bloomed yet.
Posted By: Old Shakie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/09/22 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
I had the same thing happen. I think it was rats. But could have been squirrels. I ended up moving them from my back yard to my farm an hour away. It set them back a bit transplanting them but so far no more partially eaten maters.... smile


Might be rats but I caught a possum last night. I think he is the guilty party.
Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/10/22 12:35 AM


Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
I finally got water at my farm. Just need to get the shutoff inspected then I can complete the water line to the yard hydrant.
Looking forward to not hauling water up there clap
what size is that line / valve ? seems awfully small.

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
I finally got water at my farm. Just need to get the shutoff inspected then I can complete the water line to the yard hydrant.
Looking forward to not hauling water up there clap
what size is that line / valve ? seems awfully small.

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
I finally got water at my farm. Just need to get the shutoff inspected then I can complete the water line to the yard hydrant.
Looking forward to not hauling water up there clap
what size is that line / valve ? seems awfully small.



It’s 3/4”. That’s all I need for now. I can upgrade if I ever build out there

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Posted By: BayouGuy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/22 05:58 PM

Bummed! Totally Bummed!

I have no garden this year. Well, that's not totally true. I have a garden. But it has two-foot-tall tomato plants that have curly and cupped leaves. They make tiny flowers that drop off. I have pepper and squash plants that stopped growing two weeks after I transplanted them. They just sit there - won't grow, make no flowers.

So, what happened?

Here's what I've concluded. Earlier this year I purchased a cubic yard of "garden soil" from a local soil & aggregate supply yard. It was dark black with what appeared to be a nice mix of aged manure, peat moss, coarse sand and a small amount of shredded wood chips. It looked really good - a lot better than those bags of garden soil at Home Depot.

In early March I applied a three-inch layer of the stuff to all of my raised bed gardens and turned it into the top eight inches or so of existing soil. Two weeks later I transplanted all of my tomato, pepper and squash plants (about a dozen of each) into the gardens. They were really healthy plants that I'd started in 16 oz. Solo cups and carefully nurtured. Man, I was looking forward to a great garden this year.

After a lot of research, I've concluded that the new soil was contaminated with Grazon or Aminopyralid herbicide. That stuff is used on horse pastures and hay fields to eliminate all broadleaf growth, leaving just grass. When an animal eats grass or hay from such a field the herbicide enters its system and is excreted in the manure. When that manure is used in a compost mix it continues to suppress broadleaf plants (especially tomatoes and peppers) even if the manure is well aged. Classic signs of Grazon/Aminopyralid contamination in the vegetable garden soil are leaf curl, stunted growth and failed fruit production.

Check out the videos.



Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/22 10:05 PM

Well that really sucks… I was thinking of getting some of that for next year. If I do I’ll put it in an area that I can test it before committing to planting it further

Does it diminish over time?
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/22 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
Well that really sucks…

I concur.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/22 10:38 PM

I feel for you. Went thru the same thing about 7 years and it was so frustrating to figure out what happened. I learned that when I want to add to my beds I use bulk mushroom compost. Problem solved and containers doing excellent
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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/22 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by greenen
Originally Posted by TCM3
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Small First batch of fresh fried okra!!!!

Dang. Mine haven't even bloomed yet.

i did plant mine somewhat earlier than i should have,
Posted By: BayouGuy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/22 02:01 AM

Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
Well that really sucks… I was thinking of getting some of that for next year. If I do I’ll put it in an area that I can test it before committing to planting it further

Does it diminish over time?


It does diminish over time, but I haven't been able to pin down just how long. Some say 6 months to a year, some say 18 months to three years.

Most reports say that the more sun and rain the soil gets the faster the herbicide degrades. So I've been really soaking the garden every three days. Also, plants in the grass family take up the herbicide, thus removing it from the soil (so long as you remove the mature plants from the area and dispose of them - no cut and mulch). Come September I'll be putting a lot of oat seed down and will hand pull the mature plants in the Spring. Hopefully, those actions will remedy the situation.
Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/22 02:34 AM

Sounds like a lot of work. But at least it’s not forever.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/22 03:23 AM

Originally Posted by BayouGuy
Bummed! Totally Bummed!
I have no garden this year....
Classic signs of Grazon/Aminopyralid contamination in the vegetable garden soil are leaf curl, stunted growth and failed fruit production.

Dang - sorry to hear that. No doubt it had something nasty in there.

Last year I bought 10 bags of what was supposed to be composted cow manure (not the 'Black Cow' brand -they were out of that);
mixed shovel-full into each hole/plant planted; The plants didn't die, but they sure didn't thrive - they did worse than if I had put no amendments at all. Barely any fruit.
Had to have had some crap in there too like yours. Never again.

This year I just put in a tiny bit of composted cow/chicken manure from my own place in each plant hole - no herbicides in use.
Plants are doing spectacular - already overloaded on tomatoes & peppers; salsa making time!
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/22 05:53 AM

Yep, Froggy’s still here. Offending
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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/22 02:38 PM

hanged
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/22 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by BayouGuy
Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
Well that really sucks… I was thinking of getting some of that for next year. If I do I’ll put it in an area that I can test it before committing to planting it further

Does it diminish over time?


It does diminish over time, but I haven't been able to pin down just how long. Some say 6 months to a year, some say 18 months to three years.

Most reports say that the more sun and rain the soil gets the faster the herbicide degrades. So I've been really soaking the garden every three days. Also, plants in the grass family take up the herbicide, thus removing it from the soil (so long as you remove the mature plants from the area and dispose of them - no cut and mulch). Come September I'll be putting a lot of oat seed down and will hand pull the mature plants in the Spring. Hopefully, those actions will remedy the situation.


That does suck. Since you can use plants in the grass family, you probably could plant corn.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/22 04:15 PM

I can say without a doubt my tomato plants are the tallest I have ever grown. The only fertilizer I have been using is catfish carcasses buried between and around them.

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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/22 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Sniper John
I can say without a doubt my tomato plants are the tallest I have ever grown. The only fertilizer I have been using is catfish carcasses buried between and around them.

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Mmmm old Indian trick.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/22 05:01 PM

I just have to remember where I buried the last ones so I don't dig that same hole again while they are still breaking down and smelly.

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Posted By: skeeter22

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/22 05:34 PM

This early season extreme heat will stop my tomato harvest. I’m glad I had already made 18 pints of salsa.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/22 06:37 PM

They should keep making for a bit longer, as long as the nighttime temps dip enough.
Where I'm at we luckily get the south-breeze blowing off of Lake Ray Roberts at night, so it dips down for us enough at least till august.
Picked about 25#'s of tomatoes last couple days, and about 3# of serrano peppers - all that going into salsa!

My okra on the other-hand loves this heat - just picked my first pound of okra for this year. I put up 30 quarts of pickled okra last year- though ended up giving away more than half 'cuz friends keep asking for 'refills'!
Posted By: drag13honda

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/22 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
I feel for you. Went thru the same thing about 7 years and it was so frustrating to figure out what happened. I learned that when I want to add to my beds I use bulk mushroom compost. Problem solved and containers doing excellent


Where are you getting the bulk mushroom compost from? If you don't mind me asking.
Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/22 03:25 AM

I’m starting to harvest my squash every 3 days now

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Posted By: Triplesnake

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/13/22 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by BayouGuy
Bummed! Totally Bummed!

I have no garden this year. Well, that's not totally true. I have a garden. But it has two-foot-tall tomato plants that have curly and cupped leaves. They make tiny flowers that drop off. I have pepper and squash plants that stopped growing two weeks after I transplanted them. They just sit there - won't grow, make no flowers.

So, what happened?

Here's what I've concluded. Earlier this year I purchased a cubic yard of "garden soil" from a local soil & aggregate supply yard. It was dark black with what appeared to be a nice mix of aged manure, peat moss, coarse sand and a small amount of shredded wood chips. It looked really good - a lot better than those bags of garden soil at Home Depot.

In early March I applied a three-inch layer of the stuff to all of my raised bed gardens and turned it into the top eight inches or so of existing soil. Two weeks later I transplanted all of my tomato, pepper and squash plants (about a dozen of each) into the gardens. They were really healthy plants that I'd started in 16 oz. Solo cups and carefully nurtured. Man, I was looking forward to a great garden this year.

After a lot of research, I've concluded that the new soil was contaminated with Grazon or Aminopyralid herbicide. That stuff is used on horse pastures and hay fields to eliminate all broadleaf growth, leaving just grass. When an animal eats grass or hay from such a field the herbicide enters its system and is excreted in the manure. When that manure is used in a compost mix it continues to suppress broadleaf plants (especially tomatoes and peppers) even if the manure is well aged. Classic signs of Grazon/Aminopyralid contamination in the vegetable garden soil are leaf curl, stunted growth and failed fruit production.



This is very interesting to me. This year, my wife and I decided to expand our space using some large pots. We used some commercial raised bed soil from Home Depot to fill them and had very similar results. Almost everything we planted in those pots failed. I actually transplanted some pepper plants out of the pots into the in-ground section of the garden after the lettuce was done and they are really turning around. We also had some leftover soil and I added it to our strip of garden where we grow tomatoes, and they look exactly as you describe. I was blaming the heat, but now I'll have to look more into this.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/22 01:41 AM

Originally Posted by drag13honda
Originally Posted by fredeboy
I feel for you. Went thru the same thing about 7 years and it was so frustrating to figure out what happened. I learned that when I want to add to my beds I use bulk mushroom compost. Problem solved and containers doing excellent


Where are you getting the bulk mushroom compost from? If you don't mind me asking.


I get mine from Sand and Gravel To Go. They are on the I-35 service road in Burleson
Posted By: SRPI89

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/22 01:50 AM

Originally Posted by Sniper John
I just have to remember where I buried the last ones so I don't dig that same hole again while they are still breaking down and smelly.

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I want to do this with my garden. My question is, are you putting a new plant in that hole, or is that fish in that hole close enough in proximity to fertilize the off-set plants on each side?
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/22 02:42 AM

I bury them near the plant or between them as pictured. Rake the mulch away, dig hole placing dirt in bucket, drop catfish guts, return dirt, then return mulch. You can see roots in the picture, but I have not noticed it damage the plants at all and there is a burst of growth soon after each time. Not pictured, there were 4 more holes I dug in the garden that day. I have been doing the fish head and guts garden fertilizer thing for several years. If you have a dog with access to your garden that likes to dig things up and roll in dead things. Don't do this. My Dash is not one of those dogs fortunately.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/06/22 02:39 AM

Do you stir your fert with an American flag? Don’t you think you should???
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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/06/22 02:57 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Do you stir your fert with an American flag? Don’t you think you should???
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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/06/22 03:25 AM

Lol he’ll yeah!!!
Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/11/22 09:32 PM

Getting way too much zucchini, butternut and spaghetti squash.

This is what I’m getting each week now

Guess having beehives makes a big difference

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Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/11/22 09:36 PM

Shred the zucchini and freeze it (ziplock freezer bags). Lotsa great recipes for it.
Butternut cubed up and frozen works good too!
Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/11/22 10:47 PM

Thanks. I’ve been frying the zucchini, picking it make slaw out of it and eating it raw and grilled.

Need to see if my neighbors would like some as can’t even store the volume I’m getting
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/15/22 01:04 AM

Best have been hot banana peppers here. Pull a dozen every three days.
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Posted By: SRPI89

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/18/22 12:41 AM

My tomato and pepper plants are healthy, but the fruit won’t set. I guess if I keep them healthy until October, maybe I’ll have some produce then…. I did the catfish heads trick, and the exploded in growth.
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/18/22 10:53 PM

Cut open our first ripe sugar baby watermelon of the year, first one I cut into was not ripe. This one may be a little over ripe, Have another I believe will be slightly over ripe as well. Then have two that should be perfect! Looks like I’ll be picking one every three days for the next two weeks as well.
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Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/18/22 11:06 PM

Great job! food
Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/19/22 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by NORML as can be
Great job! food
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/19/22 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by rickym
Cut open our first ripe sugar baby watermelon of the year, first one I cut into was not ripe. This one may be a little over ripe, Have another I believe will be slightly over ripe as well. Then have two that should be perfect! Looks like I’ll be picking one every three days for the next two weeks as well.



up cheers
Posted By: Stub

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/21/22 02:02 AM

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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/21/22 03:03 PM

Neighbor plants Okra every year and when they go out of town I water it and pick it.
This time I watered but they let the other neighbor pick it for themselves and their 98 year old mother and her keeper.

They got all they want and so this morning I got us some, now it's time for some seafood gumbo.

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Posted By: BayouGuy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/21/22 07:59 PM

Fry those suckers.
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/22/22 02:02 AM

Make gumbo with some and have a fish fry with the remaining!
Posted By: Stub

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/22/22 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by BayouGuy
Fry those suckers.


Originally Posted by rickym
Make gumbo with some and have a fish fry with the remaining!


I like y'alls thinking up


Just watered them going to pick some more after I do my yard work.

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Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/14/22 12:10 AM

Man I suck at this, think I know what I did and going to rectify it for my fall garden.

This was my haul this entire year rofl

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Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/14/22 12:31 AM

That rai we had helped my cantaloupe

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Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/14/22 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
Man I suck at this, think I know what I did and going to rectify it for my fall garden.

This was my haul this entire year rofl


This was a bad year; a dry spring then straight into 100 degree days. I hardly did much better - sad because not enough okra to pickle any. frown
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/16/22 05:46 PM

I am hoping my peppers will produce more once the heat lets up a little.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/16/22 09:24 PM

Hopefully they will and get it going for you. My fall crop is always better than my summer.
Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/16/22 11:12 PM

Wow this cantaloupe grows fast.

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Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/17/22 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
Wow this cantaloupe grows fast.

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Wow are those the ones pictured above one the 14th? They’re huge lol.
Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/17/22 12:49 AM

Yes. Same two
Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/21/22 09:08 PM

Picked my first Cantaloupe yesterday

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Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/28/22 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
Picked my first Cantaloupe yesterday

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Why do you think it is ripe?
Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/28/22 11:54 PM

First time I’ve ever grown cantaloupe. I could have used more time to be just right. It was not as sweet as I was expecting but still edible. I’ll let the rest of them mature longer
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/29/22 06:18 PM

Still pickin a half dozen a week. Anybody in the spring area want watermelons?
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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/16/22 11:25 AM

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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/20/22 06:09 PM

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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/20/22 06:12 PM

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Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/20/22 06:19 PM

Finally figured out when the cantaloupe is ready to pick.

The last two I picked were perfect.

I have at least 20 more in different state. Amazing that they are doing so well as I just threw out seeds from a cantaloupe that I bought from a store

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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/20/22 11:34 PM

Primotalli. A cross between 7 Pot Primo and Fatalli. Supposedly worse that reaper or dragon’s breath, according to some videos I’ve seen. Sounds like 0 fun to me but I have to eat one since I grew them. I will record this reaction and share with y’all when I do.
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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/20/22 11:34 PM

Not to mention these are triplets. Pretty cool.
Posted By: rickym

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/24/22 04:27 PM

8th batch, hot banana pepper and jalapeños.
I hate that the jalapeños keep getting smaller!


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Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/25/22 03:25 PM

My tomatoes burned up during the 100+ days, so I cut them back short and stripped the leaves for a fall garden. All but one came back great. Also planted a tight row of Chinese beans within them. I'm really impressed how well they are doing. I think it's time to start picking them. My pepper plants have grown like crazy in the heat. Can't pick them all fast enough. I though the green worms were going to wipe me out, but an army of lizards has taken them all out.

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Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/25/22 03:37 PM

That’s a lot of peppers!
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/01/22 02:17 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Primotalli. A cross between 7 Pot Primo and Fatalli. Supposedly worse that reaper or dragon’s breath, according to some videos I’ve seen. Sounds like 0 fun to me but I have to eat one since I grew them. I will record this reaction and share with y’all when I do.
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I look forward to this video. The stingers on those things look awesome. My peppers are not doing as good as I had hoped. Gonna give them some TLC and see if they can manage to produce some more for me.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/10/22 02:38 AM

Lil bro came over today. Made a sauce of these nasty lil Primotalli’s and Bahamian goats. Good LORD it’s an experience!
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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/10/22 02:38 AM

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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/10/22 02:44 AM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Primotalli. A cross between 7 Pot Primo and Fatalli. Supposedly worse that reaper or dragon’s breath, according to some videos I’ve seen. Sounds like 0 fun to me but I have to eat one since I grew them. I will record this reaction and share with y’all when I do.
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I look forward to this video. The stingers on those things look awesome. My peppers are not doing as good as I had hoped. Gonna give them some TLC and see if they can manage to produce some more for me.


I have to say there’s no video dang it. But I’ll say this. This Primotalli is a good one. What a flavor! It’ll let you enjoy the flavor fkr about 20’seconds . . . and then it start ramping up. Like really ramps up. It finally ends up equalling a Yellowjacket sting on your tongue and it hangs around for what seems like an eternity but the ramp down is equally as slow. Most my other peppers run by, kick you in the nutz and run away. This one is lasting and legit.

The sauce is very subdued compared to the fresh pellet but it’ll build up on ya too. What a great flavor too. Thank you Derek for that hab sauce recipe. That’s what we used minus 1/2 the vinegar. Dad gum I feel like I’m almost high
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 10/10/22 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Lil bro came over today. Made a sauce of these nasty lil Primotalli’s and Bahamian goats. Good LORD it’s an experience!
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Fall pepper season is the best. Tabasco, Chocolate Habs and KS Lemon are banging.

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/10/22 02:38 AM

Payne. I have a good update for you. I’m babysitting a buddies Red this winter. He gave me a 3 toed box as a gift for doing it. This is his red and the 3 toed. I’ll get a group pic of everyone this weekend.

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/10/22 02:48 AM

Hell of an update, took you long enough. KY I want to commission a website for Derek's Testudines, budget is around $2.86.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 11/10/22 03:10 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
Hell of an update, took you long enough. KY I want to commission a website for Derek's Testudines, budget is around $2.86.


lol. I'll match that. I'll see what I can get done for $5
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/01/22 01:03 AM

Never too early to start thinking and planning gardening 2023. Here is what I have planned so far. What are y'all set in stone to grow?

I have 90 onions and 22 garlic in the ground now.
Going to grow

Tomato - Plum Regal, Tycoon, BHN 589 and probably another type of Roma. Regal and 589 are new for me this year
Peppers. Jalapeno, Bell, Habanero, serrano, chiltiepin(probably in a pot), I have spots for at least 4 other peppers if I choose. Not sure what to go with yet
Cucumbers - 2 different pickling kind
Squash - Probably do your standard straight or crookneck squash and a Zucchi.

Maybe do some Okra once I pull the onions out.

Should have an extra bed or two. Looking to see what y'all are going to grow and steal off y'alls plans.
Posted By: hogwart

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/01/22 05:45 AM

You guys are so lucky.
You can grow things I can't even find in the frozen food department up here.

Not only is our ground frozen solid at the moment and covered in snow, but it's dang poor soil when it is thawed out plus our season is just 100 days at best,

I do garden as much as I can, but there is a lot that won't produce up here.
Most peppers won't produce here, corn is hit and miss, melons are out, most fruit trees are out, I don't even know what Okra is.
And that's only some of what won't grow here.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/05/22 01:27 PM

Well, we’re all pruned and ready for winter. Now it’s going to be in the 70’s all dang week.
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Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/06/22 02:27 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Never too early to start thinking and planning gardening 2023. Here is what I have planned so far. What are y'all set in stone to grow?

I have 90 onions and 22 garlic in the ground now.
Going to grow

Tomato - Plum Regal, Tycoon, BHN 589 and probably another type of Roma. Regal and 589 are new for me this year
Peppers. Jalapeno, Bell, Habanero, serrano, chiltiepin(probably in a pot), I have spots for at least 4 other peppers if I choose. Not sure what to go with yet
Cucumbers - 2 different pickling kind
Squash - Probably do your standard straight or crookneck squash and a Zucchi.

Maybe do some Okra once I pull the onions out.

Should have an extra bed or two. Looking to see what y'all are going to grow and steal off y'alls plans.

can i grow garlic from the cloves from the grocery store?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/06/22 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by Poppa
Originally Posted by Derek
Never too early to start thinking and planning gardening 2023. Here is what I have planned so far. What are y'all set in stone to grow?

I have 90 onions and 22 garlic in the ground now.
Going to grow

Tomato - Plum Regal, Tycoon, BHN 589 and probably another type of Roma. Regal and 589 are new for me this year
Peppers. Jalapeno, Bell, Habanero, serrano, chiltiepin(probably in a pot), I have spots for at least 4 other peppers if I choose. Not sure what to go with yet
Cucumbers - 2 different pickling kind
Squash - Probably do your standard straight or crookneck squash and a Zucchi.

Maybe do some Okra once I pull the onions out.

Should have an extra bed or two. Looking to see what y'all are going to grow and steal off y'alls plans.

can i grow garlic from the cloves from the grocery store?


I've done it. Didn't have the best results. But honestly I just threw some in a flowerpot just to see if it would grow. It only got watered when it rained and I never fertilized once. It grew but the bulbs weren't the best. I would spend the money and buy a known variety. You buy it once and you'll probably never have to buy it again. It will be hard to find. Most places online are already sold out by now. You might check some of the larger DFW nurseries. Nicholson Hardie use to stock it. Not sure if they still do.
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/06/22 04:06 PM

thanks. i think ive tried before but cant remember, mite have been horse radish.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/06/22 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Never too early to start thinking and planning gardening 2023. Here is what I have planned so far. What are y'all set in stone to grow?

I have 90 onions and 22 garlic in the ground now.
Going to grow

Tomato - Plum Regal, Tycoon, BHN 589 and probably another type of Roma. Regal and 589 are new for me this year
Peppers. Jalapeno, Bell, Habanero, serrano, chiltiepin(probably in a pot), I have spots for at least 4 other peppers if I choose. Not sure what to go with yet
Cucumbers - 2 different pickling kind
Squash - Probably do your standard straight or crookneck squash and a Zucchi.

Maybe do some Okra once I pull the onions out.

Should have an extra bed or two. Looking to see what y'all are going to grow and steal off y'alls plans.


Derek I hope you have better luck than I did year before last with the Tycoon and BHN 589. They both sucked for me!
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/07/22 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
Derek I hope you have better luck than I did year before last with the Tycoon and BHN 589. They both sucked for me!


I've never had a bad year with Tycoons. I'll report back on the 589. Sticking with more determinate varieties Romas have always been my best producers. Indeterminate: Improved Porters are insane.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/08/22 01:28 PM

Garlic 😞
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/23/22 01:45 AM

Payne. They aren’t happy living the indoor life but they are warm.
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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/23/22 02:11 AM

Wait What?!?!? There are four now? What's the little one?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/23/22 03:06 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
Wait What?!?!? There are four now? What's the little one?


Oh. I'm over wintering a Red for a bud and he gave me a Three Toed Box as a tip. I love Boxes.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/23/22 04:35 AM

That's pretty cool.

KY how much for a livestream website?
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/24/22 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
That's pretty cool.

KY how much for a livestream website?

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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/24/22 01:46 AM

Kyle, you host too?
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/01/23 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Kyle, you host too?

Sorry for the late reply must have missed this, but negative I do not host. Server space is too cheap for me to deal with. It. Now I do “rent” my existing server space lol.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/04/23 01:38 AM

Pepper seed germination has begun. This is what I’m starting from seed. 24 hour soak in potassium nitrate and now in coffee filters inside ziplock bags on top of the dvr to germinate. Should be ready to transfer to starter trays this weekend.
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Posted By: skinnerback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/04/23 01:57 AM

Never heard of a Cappuccino Chiltepin....
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/04/23 03:09 AM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Never heard of a Cappuccino Chiltepin....


Me either lol. I don't remember ordering them and don't see it on a order history thru 2019. Must have been a freebee that TX hot threw in on one of my orders. I'm starting quite a few and hope they germ well. If so and you're interested I'll ship you one. The cool thing about pepper seed sellers like TX or White hot is they always throw in a couple extra verities of their choosing. I ordered 6 from White this year and he threw in an extra 6. I ordered the T-Rex(Mustard) for my 6yr old nephew. He's big into Dino's. Told his mom it's probably best he not touch the plant or the peppers lol.
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/23 04:46 PM

Getting my plumbing almost done.

12 boxes and a large key hole raised bed in the middle. 3 stations on hunter electric valves ran off a Battery Bluetooth controller.

I ran PVC and hose bib to every bed. Maybe overkill but will be super nice when it’s done. I’ll post updates Sami finish.

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/23 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by BradyBuck
Getting my plumbing almost done.

12 boxes and a large key hole raised bed in the middle. 3 stations on hunter electric valves ran off a Battery Bluetooth controller.

I ran PVC and hose bib to every bed. Maybe overkill but will be super nice when it’s done. I’ll post updates Sami finish.

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That's awesome!
Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/12/23 05:11 PM

Wow great job!! Looks very well made
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/15/23 01:38 AM

Anyone else like using rabbit poop in container gardens?
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/23 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
Anyone else like using rabbit poop in container gardens?


Can you use rabbit poop without composting? We have llamas and can put the pellets directly in with soil without composting.

Most you have to compost first or it’ll be to “hot”
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/16/23 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by BradyBuck
Originally Posted by fredeboy
Anyone else like using rabbit poop in container gardens?


Can you use rabbit poop without composting? We have llamas and can put the pellets directly in with soil without composting.

Most you have to compost first or it’ll be to “hot”


No composting required with rabbit poop.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/18/23 08:06 PM

Pepper seedlings are coming along nicely.

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Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/07/23 05:48 PM

more rain coming today - got onion sets planted, as well as turnips and peas planted in the garden.
gonna get other seeds started indoors asap this week too . . .
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/07/23 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
more rain coming today - got onion sets planted, as well as turnips and peas planted in the garden.
gonna get other seeds started indoors asap this week too . . .


I'm going to try and get my tomatoes, cukes, and whatever else started tonight. About 6 weeks or so if mother nature is nice from transplanting outside.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/07/23 08:55 PM

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Started a little over a week ago.
Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/07/23 09:09 PM

Going to give growing tomato and pepper plants from seeds this year. I picked up a couple of those Burpee seed starting kits. Any suggestions to a newbie to enhance success? Thx
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/07/23 10:03 PM

What type of peppers are you growing? If it's Jalapeno or other milder varieties you can plant them straight into the soil. You can youtube the paper towel germination method. I use that method for hot peppers. Seed need two things to germinate. Moisture and heat. You want your soil moist but not soaking wet. Place a seed in the center of each pod about 1/4" deep. I use a sharpie to make the hole. Cover it with some soil. Put the lid on and place it in a warm place. I put mine on top of my TV DVR in a closed cabinet. It keeps it a perfect 85-88 degrees. You can also use a heating mat. You'll have germination in a few days on the tomatoes and maybe a week on the peppers. Once they germinate I take off the lid. Now they need light. And not just window light. Without proper lighting they will get leggy fast. Lots of options. I'm cheap and use a 6500K shop light and it works well. Payne and others can recommend some of the lights they use.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/07/23 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by oldoak2000
more rain coming today - got onion sets planted, as well as turnips and peas planted in the garden.
gonna get other seeds started indoors asap this week too . . .


I'm going to try and get my tomatoes, cukes, and whatever else started tonight. About 6 weeks or so if mother nature is nice from transplanting outside.


Derek you looked at the long term forecast. If I can find some tomato transplants I am going to risk putting in the garden next weekend bolt
Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/07/23 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
What type of peppers are you growing? If it's Jalapeno or other milder varieties you can plant them straight into the soil. You can youtube the paper towel germination method. I use that method for hot peppers. Seed need two things to germinate. Moisture and heat. You want your soil moist but not soaking wet. Place a seed in the center of each pod about 1/4" deep. I use a sharpie to make the hole. Cover it with some soil. Put the lid on and place it in a warm place. I put mine on top of my TV DVR in a closed cabinet. It keeps it a perfect 85-88 degrees. You can also use a heating mat. You'll have germination in a few days on the tomatoes and maybe a week on the peppers. Once they germinate I take off the lid. Now they need light. And not just window light. Without proper lighting they will get leggy fast. Lots of options. I'm cheap and use a 6500K shop light and it works well. Payne and others can recommend some of the lights they use.

The peppers are jalapenos and I'll check into the paper towel method. On the tomatoes, I was definitely going to place in front of a window, once they germinate, so scratch that. I have a heat stand I plan to use and I'm guessing they need to first stay in a dim/dark area prior to germination? Any suggestions on a cheap light source would be greatly appreciated.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/07/23 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by oldoak2000
more rain coming today - got onion sets planted, as well as turnips and peas planted in the garden.
gonna get other seeds started indoors asap this week too . . .


I'm going to try and get my tomatoes, cukes, and whatever else started tonight. About 6 weeks or so if mother nature is nice from transplanting outside.


Derek you looked at the long term forecast. If I can find some tomato transplants I am going to risk putting in the garden next weekend bolt


Lol. I haven't seen the long term yet. I went out early like two years ago. Then one night it was going to get to like 25. I ran to the grocery store and bought all the 64oz Styrofoam cups they had. Tapped Kabob sticks to the and got them all covered. It worked. They all made.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/07/23 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by talkturkey
Originally Posted by Derek
What type of peppers are you growing? If it's Jalapeno or other milder varieties you can plant them straight into the soil. You can youtube the paper towel germination method. I use that method for hot peppers. Seed need two things to germinate. Moisture and heat. You want your soil moist but not soaking wet. Place a seed in the center of each pod about 1/4" deep. I use a sharpie to make the hole. Cover it with some soil. Put the lid on and place it in a warm place. I put mine on top of my TV DVR in a closed cabinet. It keeps it a perfect 85-88 degrees. You can also use a heating mat. You'll have germination in a few days on the tomatoes and maybe a week on the peppers. Once they germinate I take off the lid. Now they need light. And not just window light. Without proper lighting they will get leggy fast. Lots of options. I'm cheap and use a 6500K shop light and it works well. Payne and others can recommend some of the lights they use.

The peppers are jalapenos and I'll check into the paper towel method. On the tomatoes, I was definitely going to place in front of a window, once they germinate, so scratch that. I have a heat stand I plan to use and I'm guessing they need to first stay in a dim/dark area prior to germination? Any suggestions on a cheap light source would be greatly appreciated.


Doesn't have to be a dark and dim place. Just warm .Overall a lot of people think seeds need light to germ. One tip on the paper towel method. If you do it use coffee filters instead of paper towels. Easier to get the seed and root off a coffee filter.

These are the lights I use.

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Here is a 2' version.
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Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/07/23 11:44 PM

I have been setting my seed trays on top of my desktop computer with saran wrap draped across and have had almost 100% germination
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/07/23 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
I have been setting my seed trays on top of my desktop computer with saran wrap draped across and have had almost 100% germination


Hadn’t thought about that. That’s a great spot
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/07/23 11:50 PM

Had a new pepper to try in the mail when I got home. Hadn’t heard of this until last week and didn’t know they grew native there. Similar to a Pequin but much hotter and supposed to be better flavor. We shall see.
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Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/23 12:12 AM

Is my light to far away this year? I know you guys said it was last year because my tomatoes were getting “leggy” but I’ve had the light right on top of them and they still seem to be growing leggy and growing directly to the light.

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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/23 12:13 AM

Try putting it 93 million miles away. chicken
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/23 04:48 AM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
Is my light to far away this year? I know you guys said it was last year because my tomatoes were getting “leggy” but I’ve had the light right on top of them and they still seem to be growing leggy and growing directly to the light.

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That's pretty leggy. What's your bulb spec and height/distance? For reference. The ones I posted earlier that I use are pretty weak. 20w each. So 80w total .over 2x4 And never than higher than 4"ish . Watts are one thing, but Lm/k are another. For transplants to outdoors you can run a higher L/K and value you're golden. 5-5.5K is popular as it's easier to find. 6.5K is the way to go. Been using this for years and it works great every year.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/23 02:20 PM

Thanks Derek, I'm using a T5 4ft shop light I had lying around. It is the 6500K though and gives off 2200 LM.

Last night I switched back over to the grow light I got last year. Which is the full spectrum grow light with 47 Red, 19 Blue, 3 UV, 3 IR, and 3 White LEDs.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/23 04:07 PM

I'm betting those are low wattage like mine. I would drop them to 4"
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/23 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
I'm betting those are low wattage like mine. I would drop them to 4"

Just to be clear 4" over the top of the plants? Before I had it about 1" off the tops of the plants with one single light running through the middle of the planter. This caused them plants to grow at an angle towards the light in the middle. Maybe I should run 2 lights to more even light the whole planter?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/23 04:53 PM

I would run two. 4" from the top of the plants. I've had my tomatoes grow up into the lights and the wattage is so low it doesn't burn them.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/23 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by talkturkey
Going to give growing tomato and pepper plants from seeds this year. I picked up a couple of those Burpee seed starting kits. Any suggestions to a newbie to enhance success? Thx


Here is another way ro start. I started cucumber and tomatoes last night. Seed straight into soil. Sandwich bag on top and secured with a rubber band. Makes it's own little green house. Garge temp is a little cool. 65 degress. I have a space heater on them when I'm at home and will climb to the mid/upper 70's. And once the sun comes out it will heat my garage up and won't have an issue with germination. I have the lights on for pic purpose. I have them off now until they sprout.

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Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/23 05:47 PM

I found this light, on sale, and seems to fit the bill (for starting out) Good Earth Lighting 36-in Plug-in LED ? OK, so you have just started your tomatoes? When will you transplant them into the garden, and will you transplant them to a bigger container prior to the garden?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/23 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by talkturkey
I found this light, on sale, and seems to fit the bill (for starting out) Good Earth Lighting 36-in Plug-in LED ? OK, so you have just started your tomatoes? When will you transplant them into the garden, and will you transplant them to a bigger container prior to the garden?


Kelvin is too low on that one at 3000. You want a minimum of 5500. Pepper plants I start in starter trays then move them to a 4" pot. Other vegs I start in a 4" pot. Everything will stay in that size pot until I transplant outside. I plan on transplanting March 25th if the 10 day forecast looks good.

I start pepper plants real early since they are slow starters. Other vegs I start 6 weeks or so before transplant date. Once they sprout, they grow fast.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/23 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
I would run two. 4" from the top of the plants. I've had my tomatoes grow up into the lights and the wattage is so low it doesn't burn them.

Thanks bud, I’ll definitely add the second light.
Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/08/23 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by talkturkey
I found this light, on sale, and seems to fit the bill (for starting out) Good Earth Lighting 36-in Plug-in LED ? OK, so you have just started your tomatoes? When will you transplant them into the garden, and will you transplant them to a bigger container prior to the garden?


Kelvin is too low on that one at 3000. You want a minimum of 5500. Pepper plants I start in starter trays then move them to a 4" pot. Other vegs I start in a 4" pot. Everything will stay in that size pot until I transplant outside. I plan on transplanting March 25th if the 10 day forecast looks good.

I start pepper plants real early since they are slow starters. Other vegs I start 6 weeks or so before transplant date. Once they sprout, they grow fast.

Thanks for the info!
Posted By: kry226

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/09/23 11:25 PM

You guys got the itis BAD! I like it! up flehan
Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/23 08:35 PM

Just because I'm reading and soaking up all I can... ran across this bit of info re 'leggy' plants. Finding a cooler room after they've sprouted?:

Cool room temperature is best for seedlings.
You'll get sturdier, stockier seedlings if you grow them at temperatures in the high 60s. Finding a cooler room in your house or garage, while still maintaining a good light sorce, will help them thrive. At higher temperatures, seedlings may get leggy.

Originally Posted by KRoyal
Is my light to far away this year? I know you guys said it was last year because my tomatoes were getting “leggy” but I’ve had the light right on top of them and they still seem to be growing leggy and growing directly to the light.

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Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/10/23 09:53 PM

Thanks, mine are actually in the garage which is much cooler than the house with no heat source just the LED lighting.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/23 01:52 AM

Haven’t heard of that talkturkey. That will probably be a rabbit hole I’ll end up going down lol. Great to see you reading up and wanting to learn. Personally I’ve only experienced leggyness with lighting issues. My garage temps fluctuate a lot. Yesterday with the nice day it was upper 70’s. Today is was 60 when I got home at 5. Been as low as 49 the past couple weeks. Keep reading and learning. At the end of the day you just gotta jump in and go. You will have epic failures and great successes. Millions of ways to do it. You will find a system/program that you like and works for you. Mine in the fluctuation of garage temps are banging out growth.
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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/23 06:00 AM

The thing with leggy plants is that you can dig the hole deeper..

They'll grow just fine.
Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/23 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Haven’t heard of that talkturkey. That will probably be a rabbit hole I’ll end up going down lol. Great to see you reading up and wanting to learn. Personally I’ve only experienced leggyness with lighting issues. My garage temps fluctuate a lot. Yesterday with the nice day it was upper 70’s. Today is was 60 when I got home at 5. Been as low as 49 the past couple weeks. Keep reading and learning. At the end of the day you just gotta jump in and go. You will have epic failures and great successes. Millions of ways to do it. You will find a system/program that you like and works for you. Mine in the fluctuation of garage temps are banging out growth.
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Yep, i jumped and put seeds in just this last Thursday and already want to see growth(LOL)
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/11/23 11:15 PM

What tricks do y'all use to get your transplants out earlier?
Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/12/23 03:59 PM

WHOOHOO! Only 3 days and i got baby tomato plants!
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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/15/23 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by talkturkey
WHOOHOO! Only 3 days and i got baby tomato plants!
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Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/15/23 12:47 AM

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Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/16/23 02:09 PM

Welp, all 48 pods germinated (24 big boy, 12 paste, 12 jalapeno). Yep, they look 'leggy' to me too. I had already gotten the cheap grow light that Derek said wouldn't work well. He was right! I figured since they would be in front of a south facing window, that, with the blind up, would even out and be 'ok' with the sun. Nope. They all stretched toward that sunny window. So now added those two shop lights with daylight, 5000 kelvin bulbs and dropped the window blind back down. Live and learn [Linked Image]
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/16/23 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by talkturkey
Welp, all 48 pods germinated (24 big boy, 12 paste, 12 jalapeno). Yep, they look 'leggy' to me too. I had already gotten the cheap grow light that Derek said wouldn't work well. He was right! I figured since they would be in front of a south facing window, that, with the blind up, would even out and be 'ok' with the sun. Nope. They all stretched toward that sunny window. So now added those two shop lights with daylight, 5000 kelvin bulbs and dropped the window blind back down. Live and learn [Linked Image]

I brought mine in from the garage during the freeze and put them in the dining room in front of a large window to get light and mine did the exact same thing. Stretched toward the window, I think that is what made them so leggy.

I've since changed to the 2 lights like Derek said and they're all straightening out and growing vertical now.

If those bulbs aren't LED they might be putting off a lot of heat, not sure if that is a bad thing or not I'm still new to this as well. Second year doing it and last year was a disaster for me LOL.

Good Luck up
Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/16/23 03:06 PM

Yes, all three lights are LEDs. So no heat worry. I think that's about all I've done correctly thus farconfused2 I've read up on transplanting 'leggy' plants and seems they can be saved. I've also figured out that the ONE long LED just ain't enough to cover the width of the trays. Hoping the added two 5000K bulbs, along w the full spectrum grow light, and lowering the blind will help. Time will tell.
Originally Posted by KRoyal
Originally Posted by talkturkey
Welp, all 48 pods germinated (24 big boy, 12 paste, 12 jalapeno). Yep, they look 'leggy' to me too. I had already gotten the cheap grow light that Derek said wouldn't work well. He was right! I figured since they would be in front of a south facing window, that, with the blind up, would even out and be 'ok' with the sun. Nope. They all stretched toward that sunny window. So now added those two shop lights with daylight, 5000 kelvin bulbs and dropped the window blind back down. Live and learn [Linked Image]

I brought mine in from the garage during the freeze and put them in the dining room in front of a large window to get light and mine did the exact same thing. Stretched toward the window, I think that is what made them so leggy.

I've since changed to the 2 lights like Derek said and they're all straightening out and growing vertical now.

If those bulbs aren't LED they might be putting off a lot of heat, not sure if that is a bad thing or not I'm still new to this as well. Second year doing it and last year was a disaster for me LOL.

Good Luck up
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/17/23 03:35 AM

Originally Posted by talkturkey
Welp, all 48 pods germinated (24 big boy, 12 paste, 12 jalapeno). Yep, they look 'leggy' to me too. I had already gotten the cheap grow light that Derek said wouldn't work well. He was right! I figured since they would be in front of a south facing window, that, with the blind up, would even out and be 'ok' with the sun. Nope. They all stretched toward that sunny window. So now added those two shop lights with daylight, 5000 kelvin bulbs and dropped the window blind back down. Live and learn


NEVER DOUBT ME! roflmao Always doubt me in reality. Just sharing experiences, You're doing great! Hella germ rate. Specifically on the tomatoes, if they get a little leggy you just plant them deeper as Payne mentioned. I've planted peppers deeper with good results, but have no date to support that they do better or root from the stem if doing so where tomatoes do. Lights from sprout to transplant are pretty cheap and a good investment.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/17/23 03:42 AM

Are you running your lights 24 hours a day? The seedlings need to rest at least 8 hours a day. I run my lights 7 am to 7 pm.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/17/23 03:51 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
Are you running your lights 24 hours a day? The seedlings need to rest at least 8 hours a day. I run my lights 7 am to 7 pm.

I have mine on a timer but I do sometimes forget to turn off the garage lights.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/17/23 03:52 AM

They need rest, I run them 12 since they get shaded for four hours.
Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/17/23 03:02 PM

Seems that dropping the blind on that south facing window and adding the two 5000k bulbs is helping. Im using a timer on the lights 6am to 10pm so 16 hrs. Ill adjust it back to only 12 hrs. Thanks again everyone for all the help!
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/18/23 02:45 AM

No peppers or tomatoes for me this year. I like to rotate different crops each year in my little two row trellised garden. And I like to throw in unusual stuff some years. This is one of those years. Seeds ordered Kajari Melon, Lemon Drop Watermelon, and Art Combe's Ancient Watermelon. Cultivated from seeds found in a basket sealed with pine tar in a sandstone cave in Arizona during the 1920s by an artifact collector they say. So that should be interesting to try. Will grow a round of yard long beans on the trellis first waiting on the weather to warm up. Compost turned into the raised bed and waiting for it to settle a little before I plant.
Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/19/23 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by Sniper John
No peppers or tomatoes for me this year. I like to rotate different crops each year in my little two row trellised garden. And I like to throw in unusual stuff some years. This is one of those years. Seeds ordered Kajari Melon, Lemon Drop Watermelon, and Art Combe's Ancient Watermelon. Cultivated from seeds found in a basket sealed with pine tar in a sandstone cave in Arizona during the 1920s by an artifact collector they say. So that should be interesting to try. Will grow a round of yard long beans on the trellis first waiting on the weather to warm up. Compost turned into the raised bed and waiting for it to settle a little before I plant.

That is way cool! Post pics
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/21/23 05:18 PM

Here is a good example of lights. These sprouted on Sunday. I have them on the dining table with a large bay window. Took the first pic at noon yesterday. As you can see they are grow straight towards the window. Moved them to the lights right after I took the second pic at 5pm yesterday. In 5 hours they straightened up towards the grow lights.

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Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/21/23 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Here is a good example of lights. These sprouted on Sunday. I have them on the dining table with a large bay window. Took the first pic at noon yesterday. As you can see they are grow straight towards the window. Moved them to the lights right after I took the second pic at 5pm yesterday. In 5 hours they straightened up towards the grow lights.

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After adding the extra light to mine, All mine are growing straight up and down now. They're also not so leggy anymore, the stems are filling out nicely.
Posted By: Texas Dan

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/21/23 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by talkturkey
Going to give growing tomato and pepper plants from seeds this year. I picked up a couple of those Burpee seed starting kits. Any suggestions to a newbie to enhance success? Thx


First post on this thread but I bet someone has already commented on the current difficulty in finding tomato plants. I called a feed store in East Texas yesterday and was told they were expecting plants a month ago. Now he's not sure if they'll ever get them this year.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/23 01:17 AM

Tomatoes are doing much better and all my bell peppers are sprouting, oregano sprouting, cilantro is stupid leggy, but still no jalapeños.


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Posted By: TCM3

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/23 01:58 AM

Think i'm going to do Tomato's,squash and okra this year. definitely more okra, it did really well in this spot last year. Love me some fried okra. food
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/23 02:01 AM

Originally Posted by Texas Dan
Originally Posted by talkturkey
Going to give growing tomato and pepper plants from seeds this year. I picked up a couple of those Burpee seed starting kits. Any suggestions to a newbie to enhance success? Thx


First post on this thread but I bet someone has already commented on the current difficulty in finding tomato plants. I called a feed store in East Texas yesterday and was told they were expecting plants a month ago. Now he's not sure if they'll ever get them this year.


Interesting. I have not heard of this. A month ago is way early on plants. Even now is early for someone to bring in plants with another 3 weeks or so until our avg last freeze for NTX. Bonnie will take a gamble about this time and stock the box stores the next week or two with some. I've bought tomato plants at HEB in late February before. I will keep an eye out on tomato inventory for sure now. up
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/23 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
Tomatoes are doing much better and all my bell peppers are sprouting, oregano sprouting, cilantro is stupid leggy, but still no jalapeños.


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Those look really good. As Payne mentioned earlier even if your tomato's get a little leggy no biggie. Just plant them deep as you would anyway. But those look great and ready to transfer to 4" pots. They were probably ready a week ago. And when you transfer you bury them deep, then when ready to go outside their root structure is legit. You might ditch the starter trays next year and go solo cups as I can tell you're planning on going from seed trey to the garden lol. Chickenman is a solo cup master. This is my first year germing cilantro indoors. They just sprouted the last couple days. I'll have to report back on their progress.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/23 02:15 AM

Yes, I was thinking same thing. I was planning on transferring to larger pots this weekend and next year not use these trays. I had this one left over from last year, but I’m definitely doing something different next time. Solo cups seems like a great idea and cheap lol. Right up my alley.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/23 05:31 AM

Get the clear ones KY

Cman knows jack squat about gardening...
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/23 05:35 AM

another tip with solo cups, if you put saran wrap over the cups when you start the seeds you'll make a little biodome that will make them sprout sooner.
Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/23 02:10 PM

OK, so yall covered transplanting to pots. What about timing of thinning and fertilizing tactics?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/23 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Cman knows jack squat about gardening...


Well said.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/23 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by talkturkey
OK, so yall covered transplanting to pots. What about timing of thinning and fertilizing tactics?


Fertilizing is going to be subjective. You can get 100 opinions here and probably none of them will be wrong. Everybody has their own way of doing it. Personally, I like Jack's Classic 20-20-20. They use very good ingredients to make their ferts. Don't go for the sales pitch of it's labeled as Tomato Food so I need to use that. Use whatever you want but look at the ingredient list. If you see things Derived from Chlorides and oxides you generally want to stay away from that product. You want to see things like Nitrates, Sulfates, Phosphates, EDTA. Even Miracle Gro checks most of boxes. Only real downside to MG is they use Potassium Chloride when they could be using Potassium Nitrate instead. Not end of the world stuff. Most of the time you can get a really high end fert like a Jacks for the same price as a MG because it's not marketed or "popular". Use whatever you want. If you see something you think you might like link it and we can take a look at it.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/22/23 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Get the clear ones KY

Cman knows jack squat about gardening...

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by talkturkey
OK, so yall covered transplanting to pots. What about timing of thinning and fertilizing tactics?


Fertilizing is going to be subjective. You can get 100 opinions here and probably none of them will be wrong. Everybody has their own way of doing it. Personally, I like Jack's Classic 20-20-20. They use very good ingredients to make their ferts. Don't go for the sales pitch of it's labeled as Tomato Food so I need to use that. Use whatever you want but look at the ingredient list. If you see things Derived from Chlorides and oxides you generally want to stay away from that product. You want to see things like Nitrates, Sulfates, Phosphates, EDTA. Even Miracle Gro checks most of boxes. Only real downside to MG is they use Potassium Chloride when they could be using Potassium Nitrate instead. Not end of the world stuff. Most of the time you can get a really high end fert like a Jacks for the same price as a MG because it's not marketed or "popular". Use whatever you want. If you see something you think you might like link it and we can take a look at it.

Thanks fellas, just bought 100 4" pots, some no hole trays to sit the pots on so I don't mess up my bench top, and some of the Jack's Classic fertilizer. up Appreciate all the help from you more knowledgeable garden guys.
Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/23 01:06 PM

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solo cups? Going to thin and transant this weekend. Planted seeds 2 weeks ago on 9th
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/23 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by talkturkey
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solo cups? Going to thin and transant this weekend. Planted seeds 2 weeks ago on 9th

Man those look great especially for only 2 weeks old.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/23 03:33 PM

Those look awesome Turkey. Where are you located? If you're in the DFW area. I would transplant to a solo cup. And transplant the tomatoes deep. Like only an inch sticking out. Tomatoes will root from their stems. If you're say 4 weeks from transplanting outside and you transfer them now, they will have one hell of a root structure when they get ready to go out.
Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/23/23 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Those look awesome Turkey. Where are you located? If you're in the DFW area. I would transplant to a solo cup. And transplant the tomatoes deep. Like only an inch sticking out. Tomatoes will root from their stems. If you're say 4 weeks from transplanting outside and you transfer them now, they will have one hell of a root structure when they get ready to go out.

Thanks! Located by East Bernard. I think DH always plants the garden mid to late March so I'll transplant this weekend and start moving them in/out (weather permitting) to 'harden' them over the next few weeks. Thanks for all the help guys!
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/24/23 12:09 AM

We are south of ten, I would aim for mid March. Keep an eye out for a late freeze. I'd get the clear cups so you can watch the roots swirl around the bottom of the cup.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/24/23 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
We are south of ten, I would aim for mid March. Keep an eye out for a late freeze. I'd get the clear cups so you can watch the roots swirl around the bottom of the cup.


Man watching the roots is the best part. I'm going back to the clear cups just to watch the roots. I miss that. I have extra plants and pulled one out a week or so ago to check the root mass and replanted it lol and thought just get the clear cups when I use up these.
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/24/23 01:45 PM

Slowly but surely I’m actually getting this thing done. It’s going to be really nice when it’s finished.



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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/24/23 01:52 PM

That is awesome
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/24/23 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
That is awesome

Yea it is, looks great!
Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/24/23 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
We are south of ten, I would aim for mid March. Keep an eye out for a late freeze. I'd get the clear cups so you can watch the roots swirl around the bottom of the cup.

Mid March, I think, is what we're shooting for during Spring break. Didn't think of clear cups, maybe next year. But then I'm hoping if this all goes well this year, then I'll get 'real' transplant pots next year
Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/24/23 02:07 PM

Those raised beds are awesome! I'm guessing with the plastic, rocks and raised beds, then no need for chopping grass. Gonna have to show this to DH! What's the center water trough for?
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/24/23 03:20 PM

keyhole garden
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/24/23 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by talkturkey
Those raised beds are awesome! I'm guessing with the plastic, rocks and raised beds, then no need for chopping grass. Gonna have to show this to DH! What's the center water trough for?


Payne is correct, it’s a keyhole garden bed.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/23 12:05 AM

did you use cedar for the beds?
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/23 02:18 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
did you use cedar for the beds?


I used cedar fence pickets
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/23 02:20 AM

Originally Posted by BradyBuck
Slowly but surely I’m actually getting this thing done. It’s going to be really nice when it’s finished.



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That is awesome!
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/23 11:59 PM

Made me a new grow light system with 4 6500K and same length chains on all so I can count the links to make everything level. Each chain link is equal to 1/2” so can raise the lights as the plants grow. Transplanted everything into 4” pots. None of my Jalapeños have sprouted so think my seeds were old or something. Will be replanting them ASAP.

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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/23 02:17 AM

Don't overwater the jap seeds and make sure they are warm. Ask Derek about starting them in a paper towel/coffee filter and a ziploc.

I love your light setup.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/23 03:33 AM

I really haven’t been over watering much. All my other peppers have sprouted so I just figured those seeds were bad. We have had some colder weather up north and they’re in my garage so maybe that’s the problem.

Thanks I’m really liking the lights.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/23 03:45 AM

japs are a little stubborn
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/23 10:44 PM

Hey Derek. What do I have here? Free seeds with a baker creek order. I am not familiar with this one.

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/27/23 10:54 PM

I think it says on the back of the package. Baker typically sends one free pack. I think that is their Pippin.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/23 09:13 PM

Let's go...

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Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/23 09:31 PM

Got my maters in the ground today. I think earliest ever. Should be interesting if it works! cheers
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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/23 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
Got my maters in the ground today. I think earliest ever. Should be interesting if it works! cheers
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Nice! What variety of tomatoes are you growing?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/23 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Let's go...

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Did you just pick any kind they have or are those specific names you were looking for? I need to buy some and didn't if I need to look for any kind in particular.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/23 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Let's go...

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What is the purpose of growing flowers in your garden? I've seen it a lot, but don't know why someone would grow flowers instead of veggies.
Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/23 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by KRoyal

What is the purpose of growing flowers in your garden? I've seen it a lot, but don't know why someone would grow flowers instead of veggies.


To attract bees for pollination
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Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/23 10:38 PM

Marigolds also repel Aphids. I have planted them in my garden for that reason before. Not sure if it mattered or not, but I don't remember having much of an Aphid problem during those seasons.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/23 10:52 PM

Some say certain plants planted with Tomatoes will increase it's flavor. I believe it's basil. Others like Marigolds repel pest like Aphids as Sniper mentioned. There is a book called Carrots love Tomatoes that deep dives into companion planting. I'll see if I can find a PDF copy that I can link.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/23 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by fredeboy
Got my maters in the ground today. I think earliest ever. Should be interesting if it works! cheers
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Nice! What variety of tomatoes are you growing?

My go to's are Celebrity and Early Girl 2 each. Then 1 Improved Porter and 1 new to me Tycoon
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/23 10:57 PM

Thanks guys, anything you can plant to repel squirrels and rabbits? I've already told my wife that if they eat my garden this year I'm going to camp out with my suppressed 22 and kill every one of them.

She doesn't like the idea, but I'm tired of them eating all my plants.

I've tried natures mace "humane" way of repelling them. They couldn't care less it was even out there.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/23 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Payne
Let's go...

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Did you just pick any kind they have or are those specific names you were looking for? I need to buy some and didn't if I need to look for any kind in particular.


I've used the jaguar and mixed for years, first time I've seen the giant so I thought I'd give it a go. Basil is the companion plant for tomatoes. Go to the hippie Mother Earth News website for a pretty good companion planting list.

https://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/companion-planting-guide-zmaz81mjzraw/
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/23 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
Thanks guys, anything you can plant to repel squirrels and rabbits?


sss
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/23 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Payne
Let's go...

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Did you just pick any kind they have or are those specific names you were looking for? I need to buy some and didn't if I need to look for any kind in particular.


I've used the jaguar and mixed for years, first time I've seen the giant so I thought I'd give it a go. Basil is the companion plant for tomatoes. Go to the hippie Mother Earth News website for a pretty good companion planting list.

https://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/companion-planting-guide-zmaz81mjzraw/


up I'll look for those.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/28/23 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
Originally Posted by Derek
Nice! What variety of tomatoes are you growing?

My go to's are Celebrity and Early Girl 2 each. Then 1 Improved Porter and 1 new to me Tycoon


Where did you find the Improved Porter? I've got a guy looking for them with no luck. Tycoon has been one of my favorites the last few years. Only place I see Tycoon is HEB and a nursery 20 miles away. Started a few by seed this year.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/23 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by Sniper John
Marigolds also repel Aphids. I have planted them in my garden for that reason before. Not sure if it mattered or not, but I don't remember having much of an Aphid problem during those seasons.



They also repel hornworms. I plant them around the border of the garden and in between plants.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/23 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
Originally Posted by KRoyal
Thanks guys, anything you can plant to repel squirrels and rabbits?


sss

That’s what I kinda figured.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/23 12:48 AM

Can't your dog get back there?
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/23 01:04 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by fredeboy
Originally Posted by Derek
Nice! What variety of tomatoes are you growing?

My go to's are Celebrity and Early Girl 2 each. Then 1 Improved Porter and 1 new to me Tycoon


Where did you find the Improved Porter? I've got a guy looking for them with no luck. Tycoon has been one of my favorites the last few years. Only place I see Tycoon is HEB and a nursery 20 miles away. Started a few by seed this year.


I found them at Mikes Garden Shop at I-20 and Crowley Rd in Fort Worth. They had a great selection of really nice plants last week at $1.99 each
Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/23 02:30 AM

Plowed up an area for my garden today

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/23 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
Plowed up an area for my garden today

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Sweet. Out of curiosity with a plot that big have you soil tested it? What all are you growing besides row crops?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/23 02:35 AM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by fredeboy
Originally Posted by Derek
Nice! What variety of tomatoes are you growing?

My go to's are Celebrity and Early Girl 2 each. Then 1 Improved Porter and 1 new to me Tycoon


Where did you find the Improved Porter? I've got a guy looking for them with no luck. Tycoon has been one of my favorites the last few years. Only place I see Tycoon is HEB and a nursery 20 miles away. Started a few by seed this year.


I found them at Mikes Garden Shop at I-20 and Crowley Rd in Fort Worth. They had a great selection of really nice plants last week at $1.99 each


That's awesome! Thank you good sir.
Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/23 02:41 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
Plowed up an area for my garden today

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Sweet. Out of curiosity with a plot that big have you soil tested it? What all are you growing besides row crops?



Sending it out tomorrow. 😀
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/23 02:52 AM

That's badrarse Hunter-Steve. What all are you planning to plant? Give us the story.
Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/23 03:00 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
That's badrarse Hunter-Steve. What all are you planning to plant? Give us the story.


I’ve got orange and yellow watermelon, cantaloupe, zucchini, butternut squash, onions, purple top turnips , okra, acorn squash, and alfalfa for the bees

I may put in some tomatoes and basil. And of course plant marigolds around them

I may need to have a farm stand this summer if everything goes right 🍀
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/23 03:16 AM

Incredible. Can't wait to see the soil test results. Post them up. This in the Plano area? Looks to be about 3-5 acers-ish? Looks awesome so far. Keep up the great work.
Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/23 03:28 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Incredible. Can't wait to see the soil test results. Post them up. This in the Plano area? Looks to be about 3-5 acers-ish? Looks awesome so far. Keep up the great work.


It’s part of my 19 acres up between Wolfe City and Bailey. It’s an hour drive from my house in Plano

I’m very close to Jason Garvey’s place. And yes I also have a shooting range on the property too!!
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/23 01:46 PM

Well POOP
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Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/23 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
Well POOP
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Is that in Burleson? Hope you covered them mater plants.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/23 02:27 PM

Yep it is Burleson and nope I did not cover the maters. Did not see it coming in forecast for today. Have not ventured out yet to see if they made it
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/23 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
Yep it is Burleson and nope I did not cover the maters. Did not see it coming in forecast for today. Have not ventured out yet to see if they made it

Wow, we're taking our son to Jellystone North Texas on spring break. Hope the weather gets nicer.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/23 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
Well POOP



Yeah, wow - just checked weather forecast and we've got 30's forecasted for 2nd week of March !

Glad I transplanted tomato starters just to bigger pots instead of the ground . . .

The ones I had in the ground last year got 'stunted' by a cold snap, even though I had them covered with a large planter-pot.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/23 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
Plowed up an area for my garden today
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In the immortal words of Bill Oxner, "that ain't a garden , that's a Truck Farm! grin up
Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/23 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
Plowed up an area for my garden today
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In the immortal words of Bill Oxner, "that ain't a garden , that's a Truck Farm! grin up

😄

Now I need to invest in a seed drill
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/23 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
Plowed up an area for my garden today


In the immortal words of Bill Oxner, "that ain't a garden , that's a Truck Farm! grin up

😄

Now I need to invest in a seed drill


... and an airplane - to crop-dust it when the bugs come, and cloud-seed when it' needs watered! eek2
Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/23 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
Plowed up an area for my garden today


In the immortal words of Bill Oxner, "that ain't a garden , that's a Truck Farm! grin up

😄

Now I need to invest in a seed drill


... and an airplane - to crop-dust it when the bugs come, and cloud-seed when it' needs watered! eek2



I have the number for the crop duster that does all the fields around me :-) and I also have water on the property now so I can irrigate if needed.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/23 06:30 PM




I have the number for the crop duster that does all the fields around me :-) and I also have water on the property now so I can irrigate if needed.
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Now you just have to find some hired help to keep it picked. That might be your biggest challenge in todays workforce!
cheers
Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/23 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by fredeboy



I have the number for the crop duster that does all the fields around me :-) and I also have water on the property now so I can irrigate if needed.


Now you just have to find some hired help to keep it picked. That might be your biggest challenge in todays workforce!
cheers[/quote]

I’m retired so this will help keep me in shape.💪
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/23 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
I’m retired so this will help keep me in shape.💪


Is this virgin land or has it been used for farming in the past?
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/23 10:36 PM

Built this 3 section compost area today. I made each space wide enough to fit my tractor bucket. I have a ton of material between a mini donkey, goats, llamas and chickens. The idea is to have one section finished, one in between and and one that gets new material.

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Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/23 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
I’m retired so this will help keep me in shape.💪


Is this virgin land or has it been used for farming in the past?


It’s been farmed and the rest of the 19 acres will continue to be farmed via share cropping. It had already been fertilized. But going to test the soil myself to verify that it is good for the crops I’m going to plant 🪴
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/23 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by BradyBuck
Built this 3 section compost area today. I made each space wide enough to fit my tractor bucket. I have a ton of material between a mini donkey, goats, llamas and chickens. The idea is to have one section finished, one in between and and one that gets new material.

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That looks awesome! Great idea
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/23 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
Originally Posted by BradyBuck
Built this 3 section compost area today. I made each space wide enough to fit my tractor bucket. I have a ton of material between a mini donkey, goats, llamas and chickens. The idea is to have one section finished, one in between and and one that gets new material.

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That looks awesome! Great idea

Yea it does! Goals for sure.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/23 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
I’m retired so this will help keep me in shape.💪


Is this virgin land or has it been used for farming in the past?


It’s been farmed and the rest of the 19 acres will continue to be farmed via share cropping. It had already been fertilized. But going to test the soil myself to verify that it is good for the crops I’m going to plant 🪴


That's awesome. Can't wait to see your updates.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/23 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by BradyBuck
Built this 3 section compost area today. I made each space wide enough to fit my tractor bucket. I have a ton of material between a mini donkey, goats, llamas and chickens. The idea is to have one section finished, one in between and and one that gets new material.

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BradyBuck has moved into straight baller status. That is fantastic.
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/23 04:04 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by BradyBuck
Built this 3 section compost area today. I made each space wide enough to fit my tractor bucket. I have a ton of material between a mini donkey, goats, llamas and chickens. The idea is to have one section finished, one in between and and one that gets new material.

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BradyBuck has moved into straight baller status. That is fantastic.


Haha, Thanks guys. I’m excited to get it going. I’ll be starting it this week hopefully.

The garden is almost done! I’ll do a video of it when it’s completely finished.

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Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/23 04:05 AM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
Plowed up an area for my garden today
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In the immortal words of Bill Oxner, "that ain't a garden , that's a Truck Farm! grin up



Yeah, that’s commercial grade right there!
Posted By: spacejunkie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/23 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
Plowed up an area for my garden today

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Where is your roadside produce stand going to be located? grin

Honestly I buy most of my produce from local stands vs HEB when I can.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/23 02:52 AM

Water night. Everything looking pretty good. I’m a fan of topping peppers. It’s a highly debatable topic. This is a jalapeño. I love the growth after topping. You can see where I topped the main stem on the top right. I hard topped the left side of the plant row pretty hard last night.

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Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/23 02:54 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Water night. Everything looking pretty good. I’m a fan of topping peppers. It’s a highly debatable topic. This is a jalapeño. I love the growth after topping. You can see where I topped the main stem on the top right. I hard topped the left side of the plant row pretty hard last night.

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Those look great. We are just now starting our seeds.

What’s the idea behind topping your peppers?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/23 03:31 AM

The idea is you stop vertical growth and support horizontal growth per say. Making it a more bushy plant, instead of a tall tree type. Once you cut the main stem it produces more shoots/nodes, creating more growth from the main stem and increasing more yield per plant. Plants in nature want to produce their fruit in general and go to seed to reproduce.So you cut the main stem of that cycle. So it puts it's energy to get as many stems or side stems as possible to reproduce instead of a single stem and just produce whatever instead of going to bloom cycle. It's a little more complicated than that, but that's the jist of it.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/23 04:17 AM

Really like your setup Derek, I went guerilla gardening this year. Probably resort to traditional next year if it fails.
Posted By: spacejunkie

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/23 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
The idea is you stop vertical growth and support horizontal growth per say. Making it a more bushy plant, instead of a tall tree type. Once you cut the main stem it produces more shoots/nodes, creating more growth from the main stem and increasing more yield per plant. Plants in nature want to produce their fruit in general and go to seed to reproduce.So you cut the main stem of that cycle. So it puts it's energy to get as many stems or side stems as possible to reproduce instead of a single stem and just produce whatever instead of going to bloom cycle. It's a little more complicated than that, but that's the jist of it.


Does it work with tomatoes?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/23 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by spacejunkie
Originally Posted by Derek
The idea is you stop vertical growth and support horizontal growth per say. Making it a more bushy plant, instead of a tall tree type. Once you cut the main stem it produces more shoots/nodes, creating more growth from the main stem and increasing more yield per plant. Plants in nature want to produce their fruit in general and go to seed to reproduce.So you cut the main stem of that cycle. So it puts it's energy to get as many stems or side stems as possible to reproduce instead of a single stem and just produce whatever instead of going to bloom cycle. It's a little more complicated than that, but that's the jist of it.


Does it work with tomatoes?


Supposedly yes. But I haven't tried it. I go determinate tomatoes so they only get to a certain size, but I might try it this year. I need to grow two of the same side by side, top one and leave one regular. I can see it really working for indeterminate types like a Porter.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/23 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by spacejunkie
Originally Posted by Derek
The idea is you stop vertical growth and support horizontal growth per say. Making it a more bushy plant, instead of a tall tree type. Once you cut the main stem it produces more shoots/nodes, creating more growth from the main stem and increasing more yield per plant. Plants in nature want to produce their fruit in general and go to seed to reproduce.So you cut the main stem of that cycle. So it puts it's energy to get as many stems or side stems as possible to reproduce instead of a single stem and just produce whatever instead of going to bloom cycle. It's a little more complicated than that, but that's the jist of it.


Does it work with tomatoes?


Supposedly yes. But I haven't tried it. I go determinate tomatoes so they only get to a certain size, but I might try it this year. I need to grow two of the same side by side, top one and leave one regular. I can see it really working for indeterminate types like a Porter.


Will see how it works on my porter cause I think the hail topped it. bolt
Posted By: Bones72

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/03/23 11:24 PM

New to starting peppers from seed. Got a mess started on the 22nd of February. Didn't have high hopes based on reading here and what I've read elsewhere. Started em in one of the packaged "greenhouse " tray deals. I'll be darned if they didn't pop through today. But everyone came up except the Anaheims. No heat mat or anything just an ac set to 76. Really wasn't expecting much given the preference for higher temperatures.

Have some container varieties of jalapeño the rest will most likely head out to a buddy's garden once there around 4 to 6 inches and hardened off. I guess I have a question or two.

In lieu of a grow light is it acceptable to place em outside to get required light on warm days and then with or without the cover.

Second question is, are habaneros able to be container/bucket grow. My buddy's place is overrun with deer and they knock the tar out of the native bird peppers/chiltepins we have nursed along and transplanted across his 10 acres.

Thanks,
Bones
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/23 12:11 AM

Nice! It was probably my post that might have come off as starting peppers can be a pain. If so I apologize. Didn't mean it to come off like that. Most peppers are pretty easy. Some of the hotter ones and specific varieties can be. Most of your Jalapenos, Habs are simple. Surprised your Anaheim's haven't come up yet. Give it some time. You can go sun. This is a great weekend for it. I would work them in a few hours at a time. Give them 3-4 hours of direct sun then move them to a broken sun area like under a tree. Leave them outside as much as possible. Keep an eye on the soil and make sure they don't dry out. Move them to dixie cups in a week or so.

No issue at all with buckets. You want to use light colored ones. Bullfrog here only grows in buckets/large pots and does great. Come summer you'll really need to monitor the soil moisture. They can dry out pretty quickly. And if there is a particular one or few you like you can bring them into the garage over winter. Trim them way back about this time of year and you're good to go with the same plant next year.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/23 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by spacejunkie
Originally Posted by Derek
The idea is you stop vertical growth and support horizontal growth per say. Making it a more bushy plant, instead of a tall tree type. Once you cut the main stem it produces more shoots/nodes, creating more growth from the main stem and increasing more yield per plant. Plants in nature want to produce their fruit in general and go to seed to reproduce.So you cut the main stem of that cycle. So it puts it's energy to get as many stems or side stems as possible to reproduce instead of a single stem and just produce whatever instead of going to bloom cycle. It's a little more complicated than that, but that's the jist of it.


Does it work with tomatoes?


Supposedly yes. But I haven't tried it. I go determinate tomatoes so they only get to a certain size, but I might try it this year. I need to grow two of the same side by side, top one and leave one regular. I can see it really working for indeterminate types like a Porter.


Will see how it works on my porter cause I think the hail topped it. bolt


Keep an eye on temps next weekend. Right now they are forecasting a freeze next Saturday and Sunday morning.
Posted By: Bones72

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/23 01:51 AM

Thanks for the info on the peppers, helps a bunch. Wife ordered a light for me anyway, but given the temps forecasted for next weekend it'll probably help to sustain growth. Gonna try tomatoes too. My dad, now almost 80, does tomatoes from seed for the church garden back home and has pretty good success. I think that'll be a good way to get some different varieties. I really dig the little yella pear tomatoes and some of the Roma varieties. Cilantro and chives will GG et going after that. Basically growing a mess of containers for jellies, salsa, and peppers to either add raw or dry down and powder for sausage making.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/23 02:46 AM

Yeah you're golden. Rock it. Great group of people in here that have multiple ways and techniques of growing. Don't get discouraged if something doesn't work the way you thought it would or you kill a plant or 10 lol. We've all been there. Get your hands dirty and learn from your experiences. Take some notes to go back and reference to. You can read on here or google or wherever. The only way to really learn is put seed in the soil and go full throttle. You will have your wins and you will have your losses. Stay dedicated to it and your losses will be minimalized as you go along. LFG Bones!
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/23 03:06 AM

And for the newbies. I'm sure y'all are watching YT's on gardening. Nothing wrong with that. But you think you have to buy XYZ products for this or that, that they are pushing. I/we get it. It's easy to get sucked down that rabbit hole. Most of those products aren't that great and the same product is labeled differently and available at a much cheaper price. If there is something you're thinking about buying post it up. Let some the people here look at it and have an opinion on it.
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/23 04:04 AM

Derek, when transplanting your plants to Dixie cups do you use a potting soil like miracle grow or what?
Posted By: Bones72

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/23 01:44 PM

I've done a far amount of gardening since I was a kid but the whole starting indoors thing and hot peppers from seed is new to me. The only thing I remember starting inside from seed was tomatoes in dixie cups with cellophane over the top usually from a pack of pall malls. Everything else wias a direct sow outside. Felt like some kinda yuppie buying a seed starter kit.

The internet really kinda opened my eyes to the varieties of peppers avaliable. With a huge growing season down here I'm excited to try some of these out. Gotta be cautious like has been mentioned of buying unnecessary stuff though and watch what people are really selling or "know". A couple seed places mentioned their varieties of peppers were deer proof. Had to laugh; I've watched deer out at my buddy's place in Lampasas scarf down bird peppers and the deer when I was stationed up at Ft Knox in Kentucky were pretty fond of poblanos.

My peppers are putting out the two little sprout leaves this morning so I'm getting somewhere. Gonna stick em in the sun once it breaks 70 or so this morning.
Posted By: Bones72

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/23 01:57 PM

I've done a far amount of gardening since I was a kid but the whole starting indoors thing and hot peppers from seed is new to me. The only thing I remember starting inside from seed was tomatoes in dixie cups with cellophane over the top usually from a pack of pall malls. Everything else wias a direct sow outside. Felt like some kinda yuppie buying a seed starter kit.

The internet really kinda opened my eyes to the varieties of peppers avaliable. With a huge growing season down here I'm excited to try some of these out. Gotta be cautious like has been mentioned of buying unnecessary stuff though and watch what people are really selling or "know". A couple seed places mentioned their varieties of peppers were deer proof. Had to laugh; I've watched deer out at my buddy's place in Lampasas scarf down bird peppers and the deer when I was stationed up at Ft Knox in Kentucky were pretty fond of poblanos.

My peppers are putting out the two little sprout leaves this morning so I'm getting somewhere. Gonna stick em in the sun once it breaks 70 or so this morning.
Posted By: Bones72

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/23 02:00 PM

Pepper sprouts.

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/23 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Dalee7892
Derek, when transplanting your plants to Dixie cups do you use a potting soil like miracle grow or what?


I like to use a mix of MG garden soil and coco coir seed starter mix. I’m not brand specific. Any garden soil will be fine. On the seed starter mix it will say it’s coco based and not peat. This year I’m using Burpees that I found at Tractor Supply. I like coco as it absorbs water easily.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/04/23 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by Bones72
I've done a far amount of gardening since I was a kid but the whole starting indoors thing and hot peppers from seed is new to me. The only thing I remember starting inside from seed was tomatoes in dixie cups with cellophane over the top usually from a pack of pall malls. Everything else wias a direct sow outside. Felt like some kinda yuppie buying a seed starter kit.

The internet really kinda opened my eyes to the varieties of peppers avaliable. With a huge growing season down here I'm excited to try some of these out. Gotta be cautious like has been mentioned of buying unnecessary stuff though and watch what people are really selling or "know". A couple seed places mentioned their varieties of peppers were deer proof. Had to laugh; I've watched deer out at my buddy's place in Lampasas scarf down bird peppers and the deer when I was stationed up at Ft Knox in Kentucky were pretty fond of poblanos.

My peppers are putting out the two little sprout leaves this morning so I'm getting somewhere. Gonna stick em in the sun once it breaks 70 or so this morning.


Mockingbirds hammer down on my Chiltipens. I’ve had them pick a plant clean in a matter of a couple days. I wouldn’t be overly concerned about temps after germination except obviously a frost or freezing temps. My garage has gotten as low as upper 40’s this winter and didn’t affect the plants at all. If you got sun out and it’s 50 degrees plus, I’d get them in it.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/06/23 10:39 AM

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Posted By: BayouGuy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/23 12:46 AM

My strawberry barrel is kicking.

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Posted By: Ol Thumper

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/23 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by BayouGuy
My strawberry barrel is kicking.

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That’s looking great 👍, what chemicals do you have in the barrel?
Posted By: BayouGuy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/23 01:22 AM

After the end of each summer I dump the soil from the barrel onto a tarp. Then add a five-gallon bucket of peat moss and a five-gallon bucket of my own year-old compost, and about a gallon of pearlite. After mixing that all of that together well, I refill the barrel and let it sit until strawberry planting time. I put bare root plants in sometime in late January/early February. Once they are growing well I'll hit them with a little liquid miracle grow every few weeks. I'm generally able to pick two pints of berries every three days from mid-March until mid-June.
Posted By: Ol Thumper

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/23 01:32 AM

I appreciate the info, we’ve got about a dozen big strawberry plants in the greenhouse now and I think I might give this a shot.
Posted By: BayouGuy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/23 01:36 AM

That barrel has 34 plants, 30 around the side and 4 on top.
Posted By: BayouGuy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/23 01:49 AM

Here's a good tutorial on the general concept for building the barrel. I did mine a little differently. I drilled 1/2" holes six-inches apart and connected them by cutting with a saber saw. Then used a cheap electric heat gun to heat the plastic. That worked fine, but was a lot slower than the method shown in the video.

Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/23 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Never heard of a Cappuccino Chiltepin....


I did those 2 years ago. The pods were tiny AH, a million of them annd they were all seeds on the inside. Tasted spot on though.
Posted By: Bones72

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/07/23 06:36 PM

My Anaheims and stunted poblanos are finally taking off. Thinking that putting em outside was all the magic necessary.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/23 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by Bones72
My Anaheims and stunted poblanos are finally taking off. Thinking that putting em outside was all the magic necessary.


Atta boy. You got this! cheers
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/23 12:52 PM

Anyone have tips on transplanting pecan trees?

We are going to dig up 5 trees from a friend’s property tomorrow and plant them here at my property. Trees range from about 1-4 inches in diameter.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/08/23 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by BradyBuck
Anyone have tips on transplanting pecan trees?

We are going to dig up 5 trees from a friend’s property tomorrow and plant them here at my property. Trees range from about 1-4 inches in diameter.

good luck! Pecan trees have a long tap root (at least those I have planted did). ours looked like a long shovel handle, dug a post hole to drop down deep to cover the roots. That has been many years ago, like 35-40, but we bought from a guy that pulled them up out of the San Gabriel river bottom in sand/pea gravel drifts.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/23 01:29 PM

They’re definitely picking up after the new lighting system and some of the 20-20-20

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/23 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
They’re definitely picking up after the new lighting system and some of the 20-20-20

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Those look awesome!
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/23 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
They’re definitely picking up after the new lighting system and some of the 20-20-20

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Wow those are looking good but they need to be in the ground! JMHO cheers
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/23 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
Originally Posted by KRoyal
They’re definitely picking up after the new lighting system and some of the 20-20-20




Wow those are looking good but they need to be in the ground! JMHO cheers


I'd like to get them in the ground, but what I've been seeing online we're looking at another freeze coming soon to NTX. Going to wait and probably get them in the ground April 1st. At least that's what I'm shooting for.

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by KRoyal
They’re definitely picking up after the new lighting system and some of the 20-20-20




Those look awesome!



Thanks for all your help bud cheers
Posted By: Bones72

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/23 08:20 PM

Do any of ya'll use worm castings? My backyard is full of giant worms, when I say giant I'm talking you could use one for a full day of fishing. They're literally in the 24 to 36 inch range. Think that about that old movie Tremors in miniature. I usually only see em after the dogs snatch em and have their fun rolling all over them.

Haven't seen one on top of the ground since last year but after each rain or heavy dew since it warmed up I get tons of big piles of castings. Wondering if these castings would be any good for my container plants. Only thing I could think of was that castings contain eggs as well as being excrement. Too many worms in a container would not be good. Just seeing what ya'lls thoughts are.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/23 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by Bones72
Do any of ya'll use worm castings? My backyard is full of giant worms, when I say giant I'm talking you could use one for a full day of fishing. They're literally in the 24 to 36 inch range. Think that about that old movie Tremors in miniature. I usually only see em after the dogs snatch em and have their fun rolling all over them.

Haven't seen one on top of the ground since last year but after each rain or heavy dew since it warmed up I get tons of big piles of castings. Wondering if these castings would be any good for my container plants. Only thing I could think of was that castings contain eggs as well as being excrement. Too many worms in a container would not be good. Just seeing what ya'lls thoughts are.

Holy hell, 36" worm?? That's crazy, but I'm no help on the castings.
Posted By: Bones72

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/09/23 10:10 PM

Yep flipping huugggge. Wish I could get a photo of one before the dogs get after it. Like a nightcrawler on steroids.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/23 01:09 AM

Worm castings are great. I'm not going to buy them as I have a ton of worms. Granted they aren't Tremor size lol, but they are there. I'm also not going to take the time to go around and collect them. If that is something you want to do there is absolutely nothing wrong with that at all and would be beneficial as a top dressing or mixed into the soil for a potted planted for sure.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/23 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Worm castings are great. I'm not going to buy them as I have a ton of worms. Granted they aren't Tremor size lol, but they are there. I'm also not going to take the time to go around and collect them. If that is something you want to do there is absolutely nothing wrong with that at all and would be beneficial as a top dressing or mixed into the soil for a potted planted for sure.

I’ve always heard worms are good for gardens and flower beds as it gives air to the soil. rofl is that an old wives tale?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/23 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
Originally Posted by Derek
Worm castings are great. I'm not going to buy them as I have a ton of worms. Granted they aren't Tremor size lol, but they are there. I'm also not going to take the time to go around and collect them. If that is something you want to do there is absolutely nothing wrong with that at all and would be beneficial as a top dressing or mixed into the soil for a potted planted for sure.

I’ve always heard worms are good for gardens and flower beds as it gives air to the soil. rofl is that an old wives tale?


That is true. They do a lot of good, there is no downside to them in gardening./flowerbeds.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/23 02:42 AM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
They’re definitely picking up after the new lighting system and some of the 20-20-20

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I’ve got a dadgum forest growing out here. Pro tip. Add a couple drops of plain Dawn dish soap to watering. Acts as a cheap watering agent. Breaks up the surface tension of water and aids in better absorption.

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Posted By: soooo

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/23 02:42 AM

Earthworms aren't native to the Americas. Came with the horrible European invaders. Just thought I'd throw that out there. But they and their castings do good things.
Posted By: Bones72

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/23 03:10 AM

I have another question. I have my grow lights now and have tried on these cloudy days. The leaves on my peppers start out flat and looking normal, after a few hours they close together. Is this too much light, too close with the light or something else all together?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/23 04:01 AM

Originally Posted by Bones72
I have another question. I have my grow lights now and have tried on these cloudy days. The leaves on my peppers start out flat and looking normal, after a few hours they close together. Is this too much light, too close with the light or something else all together?


A lot going on here. What's your grow light spcs? I wouldn't get too excited on lights and sunny/cloudy days enough to rotate them or even watch the forecast for it. I think you might be over thinking it. Do like KRoyal and just rock under the lights. You can transplant outside when you're ready and temps are ready. You might get some sunburn but it's no biggie mostly. Keep it simple. Let's not over think this and keep it simple and still get great results.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/23 04:04 AM

Originally Posted by soooo
Earthworms aren't native to the Americas. Came with the horrible European invaders. Just thought I'd throw that out there. But they and their castings do good things.


Love some good and simple fun facts.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/23 04:40 AM

Originally Posted by soooo
Earthworms aren't native to the Americas. Came with the horrible European invaders. Just thought I'd throw that out there. But they and their castings do good things.


But some are. Those two to three foot worms that we have here in North Texas are endemic here. You usually only see sections of them in shovels of black gumbo dirt, but I have seen my wife's box turtles pull whole ones out of the ground during a rain.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/23 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Pro tip. Add a couple drops of plain Dawn dish soap to watering. Acts as a cheap watering agent. Breaks up the surface tension of water and aids in better absorption.


It's a nonionic surfactant, just don't use too much.
Posted By: Bones72

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/23 01:20 PM

OK so someone else has seen these mega-worms.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/10/23 06:18 PM

Well I had a bunch of 7 to 8 inch last year which I thought were really big but last night had a 14 inch on front porch. Frigging huge!!
Posted By: soooo

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/11/23 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by soooo
Earthworms aren't native to the Americas. Came with the horrible European invaders. Just thought I'd throw that out there. But they and their castings do good things.


Love some good and simple fun facts.


I looked into vermiculture some years back and read that.

However, https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smit...s-more-questions-from-readers-180958094/
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/23 10:42 PM

Well my tomatoes have already doubled in size since I put them in the ground. If I can protect them thru the next 6 nights I think we will be off to the races! banana
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Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/23 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
Well my tomatoes have already doubled in size since I put them in the ground. If I can protect them thru the next 6 nights I think we will be off to the races! banana
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Yea we’re going to Jellystone in Burleson for spring break and was hoping for some shorts weather but not looking like it. Hope it isn’t too cold.
Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/23 11:42 AM

So, where I'm at, temps are supposed to dip down to mid/lower 40's this next week. I was planning on transplanting my tomato plants to raised garden beds. Will this cool spell hurt them, or should i wait?
Posted By: Bones72

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/23 02:25 PM

TPWD has a small little article on the giant worms. Apparently they are related to some real monsters from Australia that grow up to 12 feet. Can't fathom a worm that big.

On another note my peppers that germinated around the 1st are getting "true" leaves on them now. I have one chiltepin pepper that is already pretty dang big and would say even past the seedling stage and in a pot outside. Don't what it's genetics are but that thing has grown fassst.
Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/23 08:43 PM

Not as fancy as some, but got the raised beds built, set, filled and the tomatos and peppers in the ground!

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Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/23 08:52 PM

Looks GREAT!! cheers
Posted By: Ol Thumper

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/23 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by talkturkey
Not as fancy as some, but got the raised beds built, set, filled and the tomatos and peppers in the ground!

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Those look great!! What kind of soil did you fill them with?
Posted By: Bones72

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/23 10:49 PM

Shoot that looks darn good tallturkey.
Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/14/23 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by Ol Thumper
Originally Posted by talkturkey
Not as fancy as some, but got the raised beds built, set, filled and the tomatos and peppers in the ground!

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Those look great!! What kind of soil did you fill them with?

Thanks! About 5" sandy soil, then about 5" of cow manure/hay compost then about 10" of sandy topsoil. We'll see
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/23 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by Bones72
Shoot that looks darn good tallturkey.

Yep those are some raised RAISED beds lol. Bet those weren’t cheap to fill.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/23 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
Originally Posted by Derek
Pro tip. Add a couple drops of plain Dawn dish soap to watering. Acts as a cheap watering agent. Breaks up the surface tension of water and aids in better absorption.


It's a nonionic surfactant, just don't use too much.


I do 2-3 drops per gallon of water on seedlings/starters with good results. I don't add it much once I go outside. My onion beds could use it. They seem a bit more hydrophobic.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/23 01:31 AM

Originally Posted by talkturkey
Not as fancy as some, but got the raised beds built, set, filled and the tomatos and peppers in the ground!

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That looks awesome! Great work.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/23 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Payne
Originally Posted by Derek
Pro tip. Add a couple drops of plain Dawn dish soap to watering. Acts as a cheap watering agent. Breaks up the surface tension of water and aids in better absorption.


It's a nonionic surfactant, just don't use too much.


I do 2-3 drops per gallon of water on seedlings/starters with good results. I don't add it much once I go outside. My onion beds could use it. They seem a bit more hydrophobic.

Hydrophobic… that sounds like some super work gardening.
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/23 01:55 AM

Several different types of maters, peppers and basil all doing well. They are getting ready to separate and pot.

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/23 02:07 AM

roflmao You'll see it more in lawn life than garden life, I can see some of starters not absorb water as easily or quickly as others. My mix isn't 100% or the best across the bunch. When I see them not soaking in the water and it's puddling on top I know it's time to add some Dawn. I'll typically water twice in a night when I do. I give them some dawn water to prime the soil and let it absorb, then about an hour later I will water again and most gets absorbed. Tray watering works, multiple methods that work. The day of that I plant I mix some T20 in a cooler and let what I'll plant sit in it for at least 20 minutes to hydrate the soil the best I can and have the roots uptake as many nutrients as possible for transplant. Simple and it works for me.
Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/23 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
Originally Posted by Bones72
Shoot that looks darn good tallturkey.

Yep those are some raised RAISED beds lol. Bet those weren’t cheap to fill.

FREE! I have 30 acres of sandy soil and at leasr a few acres of cow [censored]/hay compost! (LOL). Old people gardening
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/15/23 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by talkturkey
Not as fancy as some, but got the raised beds built, set, filled and the tomatos and peppers in the ground!

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Very nice. I'd like to have some tall raised beds like that. I wouldn't have to bend over to pick stuff.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/23 01:05 AM

Lemon and Lime are cranking out the blooms. Brought them in the garage in case of hail.
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Posted By: TPACK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/17/23 02:32 PM

I wish I still had the desire to have a garden, but I just don`t. We had a 1000 sq. ft. garden from 2000-2010. The 2011 drought would have made me quit anyway. It was hard enough to keep 36,000 sq. ft. of St. Augustine alive with water hoses and 50-60 mature Post Oak trees competing for the water. After about 5 years, the nut grass and other weeds started taking over. I was working and commuting 60 miles during most of it and pulling weeds and hoeing wasn't going to happen after getting home or days off. I really enjoyed tilling and planting and had some nice-looking gardens, but I wasn`t going to put in the time to maintain it like it needed to be. Now I have 2 neighbors that have nice gardens that share with us. We water their gardens and plants when they go on vacations so they feel obligated to give us some. I like the arrangement. banana
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/23 02:50 AM

Ya'll up in NTX got those 'maters and peppers (outside in your gardens) covered for tonight's FREEZE ?
Posted By: Ol Thumper

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/23 03:05 AM

Originally Posted by oldoak2000
Ya'll up in NTX got those 'maters and peppers (outside in your gardens) covered for tonight's FREEZE ?


We spent 2 hours covering things up and moving stuff back in the greenhouse this afternoon. It’s already down to 34 here so I’m thinking it’s going to get colder that their saying. It happens every year so it’s not a big deal,
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/23 09:59 AM

All I have in so far is onions so procrastinating worked out for me...and my wife told me about this weather coming ten days ago or more.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/19/23 08:32 PM

Wow feeling pretty good that I babied my tomatoes thru this last cold snap! Even have 4 blooms on the Early Girls chicken
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/23 08:23 PM

I'm ready to plant. Looking good so far for this weekend. From January 31st from cute little babies to March 20th a jungle.

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Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/23 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
I'm ready to plant. Looking good so far for this weekend. From January 31st from cute little babies to March 20th a jungle.

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Lol id definitely say so.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/21/23 10:48 PM

Did you add any beds Derek?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/23 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
Did you add any beds Derek?


I didn’t. I always start a ton as giveaways. Ordered another raised bed today to cut up and close in the garden for the tortoises. I’m trying something different this year. No till. I just weedeated them and topped off with nothing but compost and raked smooth. I’ll put my weed barrier on top once I plant. If not the Bermuda would dominate.
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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/23 01:44 AM

Those look good. How are my bff reptiles?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/22/23 03:19 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
Those look good. How are my bff reptiles?


They are doing great! I haven't done any weight's and measurements, but they look great and happy. I'll try and get some pics tomorrow. I know I've mentioned, I think. I added a Box to the mix. 6yr old nephew wanted to see him a few weeks ago and he was burrowed at least 4" deep. Going to do my best to contain him but won't be surprised if he gets out and on the run this year. The Red's personality and social behavior is incredible. Box is a bit more timid. I'm only 6-8 months in with the Box, so most of this is winter/hibernation. Boxes are my favorite. It's a 3 Toed and cool as hell when happy.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/23 06:52 PM

You missed the deadline..


This is where the raised beds will go whenever I get motivated. Planted to see how well they do in this spot. Should have full sun till 5ish.

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Jaguar marigold

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/23 10:48 PM

Female up front leading the pack. Box is still borrowed about 6” underground. He’ll come out one day.
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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/23/23 10:51 PM

roflmao slow and steady wins the race
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/24/23 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
You missed the deadline..


This is where the raised beds will go whenever I get motivated. Planted to see how well they do in this spot. Should have full sun till 5ish.

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Jaguar marigold

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Is that native soil? Looks pretty good if so. Like a sandy loamish. Beats the hell out of my clay/limestone. I found those Marigold seeds you have at TSC. up
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/24/23 12:20 AM

Yep, sandy loam. I haven't done a soil test. I want beds so not sure I'm going to do one.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/24/23 01:33 AM

Yeah, I've never tested my raised beds. Was going to this year and never got around to it. It's pretty much pointless anyway. It's so manipulated every year that it's not constant. A compost nerd friend of mine convinced me to do a no till and just top my beds off with nothing but compost and rake it smooth this year. Which I did. It was really easy work. We'll see how it goes. I think it will be good. Got about a 1+" layer of compost on each bed.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/24/23 02:07 AM

There's a mushroom farm in Gonzales that sells its compost for 15$ a yard. I put it in my old garden and will do the same here.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/24/23 02:44 AM

I miss mushroom or any good compost. My nursey used to carry mushroom it in bulk. They switched to some garbage I'm pretty sure they are bringing in Living Earth basic compost. Meh.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/24/23 02:56 AM

Yeah, having the shroom farm is a blessing, I attribute it to my good clean living...
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/23 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Yeah, I've never tested my raised beds. Was going to this year and never got around to it. It's pretty much pointless anyway. It's so manipulated every year that it's not constant. A compost nerd friend of mine convinced me to do a no till and just top my beds off with nothing but compost and rake it smooth this year. Which I did. It was really easy work. We'll see how it goes. I think it will be good. Got about a 1+" layer of compost on each bed.


Derek I always grin when someone says Get around to it. Many years ago I went to a Zig Ziglar speech and when you walked in the door you were given a little cardboard disc and had to it printed on both sides. About halfway thru his 4 hour talk he said When you came in today you were given a round to it so now get on with it! That was 45 years ago but always stuck with me cheers
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/23 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
I miss mushroom or any good compost. My nursey used to carry mushroom it in bulk. They switched to some garbage I'm pretty sure they are bringing in Living Earth basic compost. Meh.


You are not that far from Burleson. We have Sand and Gravel to Go who has a good mushroom compost and a even better mushroom grow blend mixed with peat and some other ingredients. They sell it by the yard so come get you a load, Give me a holler and I will buy you a beer!
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/23 06:14 PM

Boy couple of nice days and everything is exploding!
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Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/23 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
Boy couple of nice days and everything is exploding!
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Heck yea!!! Those look great. Mine were getting a bit droopy and I finally got them in the ground today. Hope mine explode like that in a few days.

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Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/23 11:35 PM

Put mine out Feb 28 earliest I have ever So far the gamble is paying off roflmao
Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/23 09:38 PM

Added some old/rusted discarded water troughs (after drilling tons of holes in the bottom, of course)
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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/23 02:14 AM

Lol fredeboy. Man y’all are killing it - fredeboy, KRoyal, talkturkey. Great work! I feel a little embarrassed posting my sissy garden compared to what y’all got going on. But here I go. Planted last Sunday. Y’all keep up the great work and post updates.
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Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/23 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
I feel a little embarrassed posting my sissy garden compared to what y’all got going on. But here I go. Planted last Sunday. Y’all keep up the great work and post updates.


Mine is too measly to photo right now but I'll post pics once I get my peppers and tomatoes planted, likely tonight.
Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/23 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Lol fredeboy. Man y’all are killing it - fredeboy, KRoyal, talkturkey. Great work! I feel a little embarrassed posting my sissy garden compared to what y’all got going on. But here I go. Planted last Sunday. Y’all keep up the great work and post updates.
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Looks like a beautiful garden to me and thank you for all your expertise and help!!
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/23 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by talkturkey
Originally Posted by Derek
Lol fredeboy. Man y’all are killing it - fredeboy, KRoyal, talkturkey. Great work! I feel a little embarrassed posting my sissy garden compared to what y’all got going on. But here I go. Planted last Sunday. Y’all keep up the great work and post updates.
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Looks like a beautiful garden to me and thank you for all your expertise and help!!

X100 Derek has been a huge help to me. Really hope this cold weather gets out of here. Last 2 mornings have been pretty cold out.
Posted By: Wytex

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/23 04:49 PM

Check the weather coming in first part of April, we have some more cold with precip coming down from Canada then and you all usually get something from it.
Nice gardens!
We get to plant in June.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/23 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Wytex
Check the weather coming in first part of April, we have some more cold with precip coming down from Canada then and you all usually get something from it.
Nice gardens!
We get to plant in June.


Not seeing it in the long term forecast for my area. Actually the temps are looking perfect banana
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/23 12:13 AM

Couple days ago I was pulling and boxing plants to give out. Found a scotch bonnet crammed in the back that had been getting no love. Gave it a good soak for about 30 minutes in a light T20 solution. 12 hours later it was back to normal. And with that the 2023 starter season is over. All but a couple I wanted to keep are gone.
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Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/23 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Couple days ago I was pulling and boxing plants to give out. Found a scotch bonnet crammed in the back that had been getting no love. Gave it a good soak for about 30 minutes in a light T20 solution. 12 hours later it was back to normal. And with that the 2023 starter season is over. All but a couple I wanted to keep are gone.
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What is this T20 solution you speak of? confused2
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/23 02:24 AM

Nothing special. T20 or T13 I mention is Triple 20-20-20 or 13-13-13. It's a 1-1-1 ratio. Tons of them out there and a lot of good ones. Best price and quality product that I've found is Winfield/Heritage. Their T20 at the price point is better than vs Peters/Jacks. And a very similar product.

https://heritageppg.com/products/gravity-s-20-20-20

So that comes to $2.15 a pound. Peters Pro about $3lb and Jacks Classic on Amazon or Calloways will run you about $12lb. Granted to get the savings you have to buy a 25lb bag. It stored properly it doesn't go bad/spoil and worth the savings.
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/23 01:39 PM

Potatoes, onions, garlic, carrots, lettuce, radishes, cabbage

Still gun shy about putting our tomatoes/peppers in the ground

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Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/23 02:43 PM

I haven't made a garden in a couple years but back when I did every year, I would usually start with onions, kale, leaf lettuce, carrots, and radishes. This year I only put onions in early.

When I did potatoes, I put them in during fall when the melons and some squash, etc. are on a second wind. I think I might go get some starters and try them in the wet end of the garden. I forgot how easy potatoes are and how much you get off them.

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Today I put in two bell peppers, four tomatoes, and four jalapenos. All my herbs are in a different bed my wife maintains. All I wanted was home made salsa and so I'll be fine.

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Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/23 04:03 PM

Some of you guy's are really rolling, I haven't even rounded up all my seed yet. I did manage to grow a garden full of crabgrass last year y'all would have been proud of!
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/23 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by Western
Some of you guy's are really rolling, I haven't even rounded up all my seed yet. I did manage to grow a garden full of crabgrass last year y'all would have been proud of!

This is basically what mine has been the last 2 years. First year was way too late and didn’t get anything. Last year I got about 6 jalapeños and 1 tomato. Hoping 3rd time is the charm this year lol.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/23 05:44 PM

Keep trying, it's not that hard. Live and learn.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/23 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Keep trying, it's not that hard. Live and learn.

Oh I am, if I’m anything im hard headed and will keep doing it until I finally get it right lol.
Posted By: Ol Thumper

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/23 10:22 PM

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/23 11:04 PM

Love that raised bed Thumper. That style always looks really good.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/23 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Love that raised bed Thumper. That style always looks really good.

Yep if I ever build anymore raised beds they’ll be just like that.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/02/23 08:22 PM

Because I am doing mostly small watermelons this year in my single row garden, I have not planted yet. Not full blown Hügelkultur as I don't want termites, but I did dig out the row onto a tarp, fill the trench with all the unfinished compost I had which was a lot and a pile of winter fallen twigs and limbs from our pear and pecan trees. Covered back over into a mound with all the dirt I had dug out, then topped and turned in with finished compost and some buckets of sandy dirt from my east texas hog hunting lease. It has settled quite a bit and about ready for planting. Fertilizing same as last year will be burying fish cleaning leftovers between plants. And again diluted castile soap spray for when I have insect pest problems.

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Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/03/23 11:31 AM

Oldest daughter brought me some potatoes that were sprouting so I dug a line of holes in my leaf and grass compost area and buried the chopped up pieces. Marked them with sticks. Primitive, but I have learned potatoes grow better the less attention you give them.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/23 06:31 PM

Bullfrog late to the part as always but I’ll catch up. People who want some heat will have it this year too, guaranteed
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Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/23 08:28 PM

I had to replant three times because of squirrels digging up my seeds. I improvised with a sandhill crane decoy and crawfish traps as squirrel deterants. Got them out of the ground finally.

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Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/16/23 10:16 PM

I think this 'old people' gardening experiment is working! Only had to replant my okra with all this climate change chitchicken

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Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/23 01:44 PM

Some garden photos this morning..

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Posted By: Bones72

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/23 03:53 PM

Got all my peppers in the ground this weekend after hardening off during the week. Only thing still in solo cups are a few eggplants and some "rescued" pepper seedlings. Found sprouts growing in the tray under the seed starter pots so just put them in some recycled 3inch containers they look pretty good so far. Figure they'll make good replacements for anything that gets killed off. Have no clue what variety they are, my fat fingers must have just dropped a few seeds when I started back in February.

Like Tallturkey the only thing my buddy and I have that's struggling is the okra. Haven't had to replant but it's been in the ground for three weeks and just now getting to 4 leaf stage.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/23 08:11 PM

we finally got 4 tomato plants this past weekend and got them planted. The choices were pretty limited and the wife will swing by another nursery in the next day or two for a couple more plants.

for those that remember my peach tree that produced like crazy, ice-apocalypses '21 took it out (was covered in marble sized peaches when we lost power for 4 days, no heat lamps working under our protective cover). I finally got that stump dug up using one tractor with a post hole digger, then came back with another tractor using FEL and one fork lift arm ... we found 1 Sam Houston tree after calling 5-6 different area nurseries that we got planted. hopefully by this time next year we will start seeing peaches again.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/23 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by Bones72
Got all my peppers in the ground this weekend after hardening off during the week. Only thing still in solo cups are a few eggplants and some "rescued" pepper seedlings. Found sprouts growing in the tray under the seed starter pots so just put them in some recycled 3inch containers they look pretty good so far. Figure they'll make good replacements for anything that gets killed off. Have no clue what variety they are, my fat fingers must have just dropped a few seeds when I started back in February.

Like Tallturkey the only thing my buddy and I have that's struggling is the okra. Haven't had to replant but it's been in the ground for three weeks and just now getting to 4 leaf stage.


okra likes it pretty warm and doesn't like it when the nights dip down below 70. It will sometimes survive - just won't thrive.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/23 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by PMK
we finally got 4 tomato plants this past weekend and got them planted. The choices were pretty limited and the wife will swing by another nursery in the next day or two for a couple more plants.

for those that remember my peach tree that produced like crazy, ice-apocalypses '21 took it out (was covered in marble sized peaches when we lost power for 4 days, no heat lamps working under our protective cover). I finally got that stump dug up using one tractor with a post hole digger, then came back with another tractor using FEL and one fork lift arm ... we found 1 Sam Houston tree after calling 5-6 different area nurseries that we got planted. hopefully by this time next year we will start seeing peaches again.


I'll have to go back and check. But I'm pretty sure Walmart had Sam Houston peach trees here. They had 3 verities and for some reason the SH sticks in my mind. You might also check farm/feed stores for tomatoes. My feed store had a great selection yesterday.
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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/18/23 11:59 PM

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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/23 04:54 AM

Originally Posted by Sniper John
I had to replant three times because of squirrels digging up my seeds. I improvised with a sandhill crane decoy and crawfish traps as squirrel deterants. Got them out of the ground finally.

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If you need to remove the squirrels look up the A18 squirrel destroyer. You can wipe out the squirrels within a couple days and have a fun time watching. They work almost to good, here’s the link

https://goodnature.co/products/a18-squirrel-trap-kit
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/23 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by PMK
we finally got 4 tomato plants this past weekend and got them planted. The choices were pretty limited and the wife will swing by another nursery in the next day or two for a couple more plants.

for those that remember my peach tree that produced like crazy, ice-apocalypses '21 took it out (was covered in marble sized peaches when we lost power for 4 days, no heat lamps working under our protective cover). I finally got that stump dug up using one tractor with a post hole digger, then came back with another tractor using FEL and one fork lift arm ... we found 1 Sam Houston tree after calling 5-6 different area nurseries that we got planted. hopefully by this time next year we will start seeing peaches again.


I'll have to go back and check. But I'm pretty sure Walmart had Sam Houston peach trees here. They had 3 verities and for some reason the SH sticks in my mind. You might also check farm/feed stores for tomatoes. My feed store had a great selection yesterday.


we checked our Walmart as well, very slim pickings and no SH. It's sad, but all our local feed stores are no longer, 4 different ones closed their doors within the last 3-4 years, likely due to the explosive population growth (city dwellers) moving here without regard for our used-to-be small town culture. One being a friend of mine that said he just couldn't produce the volume to keep his head above water due to big box stores, sad indeed. He was about ready to retire anyway and the property his business was on skyrocketed in price (taxes especially) to where he could sell the site for more than it would ever make him in several lifetimes. We do still have a old school nursery but they were out of most peach varieties this late in the season. Timing wasn't on my side. Thanks and I will keep checking around as I wouldn't mind having another SH.
Posted By: Bones72

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/23 12:52 PM

A18's squirrel destroyer is pretty neat, but if you want straight comedy gotta do the squirrel slingshot. Buddy of mine about my father's age, which made this even funnier, up in Colorado saw a video on it on YouTube made his own and I'm here to tell you the squirrels left his yard. It only takes one time getting launched a 100 yards or so and they depart. One or two didn't make it when it was set up aiming towards his neighbors privacy fence. Once trajectory was adjusted they just landed in the other yard. Was fun for two days drinking beer with him and watching bushy tails fly.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/19/23 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by Bones72
A18's squirrel destroyer is pretty neat, but if you want straight comedy gotta do the squirrel slingshot. Buddy of mine about my father's age, which made this even funnier, up in Colorado saw a video on it on YouTube made his own and I'm here to tell you the squirrels left his yard. It only takes one time getting launched a 100 yards or so and they depart. One or two didn't make it when it was set up aiming towards his neighbors privacy fence. Once trajectory was adjusted they just landed in the other yard. Was fun for two days drinking beer with him and watching bushy tails fly.

need a video!
Posted By: Bones72

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/23 03:56 PM

Wish we had done one but both me and my buddy were and are pretty much anti tech and this board is about all the "social media " I do. Took me a week just to figure out posting photos on here.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/23 08:28 PM

Just Google it. There are several funny ones that come up!!
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/23 07:40 PM

Well my gamble on putting my tomato plants in the ground Feb,28 appears to be paying off! Plants are beautiful and lots of blooms and I just counted 5 baby maters banana
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Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/23 08:26 PM

Looks great! Mine are still chugging along, but still have a ways to go.

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/23 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
Well my gamble on putting my tomato plants in the ground Feb,28 appears to be paying off! Plants are beautiful and lots of blooms and I just counted 5 baby maters banana
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Posted By: Texan Til I Die

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/23 08:35 PM

My pepper plants took a pretty good beating yesterday from the hail. A first for me. Will they rally back? They've been in the dirt about 2 weeks.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/23 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Texan Til I Die
My pepper plants took a pretty good beating yesterday from the hail. A first for me. Will they rally back? They've been in the dirt about 2 weeks.


They will bounce back no problem. A lot of times if peppers get leaf or stem damage it puts then into growth overdrive and they start putting out lots of new shoots. Peppers are very tough.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/23 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
Looks great! Mine are still chugging along, but still have a ways to go.

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What is this you have growing?
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/23 09:22 PM

Growing

Brandywine Tomatoes
Roma Tomatoes
Cherry Tomatoes
Jubilee Tomatoes (orange cherry tomatoes)
Green, Red, and Orange Bell Peppers
Cilantro
Will be buying some started Jalapenos and planting them as well, none of mine sprouted inside.

But yea a lot of tomatoes LOL. I need to do some weed picking for sure, but hurt my ankle really bad last weekend so haven't really be able to get around very well.

I'm about to setup a hydroponics system for my lettuce and strawberries.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/23 09:29 PM

Nice! That reminds me I need to plant some Cilantro seeds. I was a Tractor Supply a couple days ago. Picked up a couple Dill plants just for the heck of it. Freaking Bonnie plants are $5.50 a pop this year.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/23 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Freaking Bonnie plants are $5.50 a pop this year.


Ouch! Thankfully I only need 3-4 of them LOL.

What I really need is a BUNCH of the tomato cages.

I've actually already harvested both my cilantro plants once for tacos and they've already grown back.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/23 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
Growing

Brandywine Tomatoes
Roma Tomatoes
Cherry Tomatoes
Jubilee Tomatoes (orange cherry tomatoes)
Green, Red, and Orange Bell Peppers
Cilantro
Will be buying some started Jalapenos and planting them as well, none of mine sprouted inside.

But yea a lot of tomatoes LOL. I need to do some weed picking for sure, but hurt my ankle really bad last weekend so haven't really be able to get around very well.

I'm about to setup a hydroponics system for my lettuce and strawberries.


You need to mix a bunch of rabbit poop in around your tomato plants. JMHO cheers
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/23 10:34 PM

Derek you know about dill and tomatoes right?


What is attacking my grape vine?

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Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/23 10:52 PM

PMK sorry to learn you lost that Sam Houston peach tree. Mine did not put out many blooms then it lost all of them. Tractor supply may have the tree in stock.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/23 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by Payne
Derek you know about dill and tomatoes right?


What is attacking my grape vine?

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Not sure what that is. Not seeing much that matches on quick google search. Is it doing any damage? Most beetles aren't good beetles.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/23 11:14 PM

Tomatoes and cukes are rocking along pretty well
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Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/21/23 11:50 PM

Yeah, it's eating the leaves. I looked through my books and tamu's site and found nothing.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/23 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by Payne
Yeah, it's eating the leaves. I looked through my books and tamu's site and found nothing.


You might try Spinosad. You can get it at TSC, Captain Jacks. Similar to Bt but has a longer residual and controls a few species of beetles.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/23 01:16 AM

I think it's in the Clytrini family. BT took them out.
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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/23 12:30 PM

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Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/23 05:12 PM

a little funny / not funny story from the weekend ... our kids/spouses and grandkids came in this past weekend since we couldn't get together at Easter due to conflicts. Had a great time all around... the grandkids (ages 4, 5, 7, 7) were out in our yard playing when it seemed to get quiet. One of the adults went out to check on them. Found some of the older ones climbing in our established plum tree, picking all the green grapes they could reach ... bang bang wife
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/23 05:52 PM

Man, all of yall's gardens are so far ahead of mine. How often do you guys liquid fertilize?

Wallace, will those hog panels keep your tomatoes growing up right? Same as the tomato grow cage would?

Thanks
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/23 06:11 PM

Planted peas and string beans twice not very good
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Posted By: BigfootWallace

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/23 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
Man, all of yall's gardens are so far ahead of mine. How often do you guys liquid fertilize?

Wallace, will those hog panels keep your tomatoes growing up right? Same as the tomato grow cage would?

Thanks



Yep I just use garden twine to attach them to the panels once they get big enough. The panels are alot more sturdy than the regular old school tomato cages.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/23 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by BigfootWallace
Originally Posted by KRoyal
Man, all of yall's gardens are so far ahead of mine. How often do you guys liquid fertilize?

Wallace, will those hog panels keep your tomatoes growing up right? Same as the tomato grow cage would?

Thanks



Yep I just use garden twine to attach them to the panels once they get big enough. The panels are alot more sturdy than the regular old school tomato cages.

Thanks, I think I’m going to try the Florida weave on mine with stakes and twine but might give the hog panel a go.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/23 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
Man, all of yall's gardens are so far ahead of mine. How often do you guys liquid fertilize?

Wallace, will those hog panels keep your tomatoes growing up right? Same as the tomato grow cage would?

Thanks


About every 2-3 weeks on liquid/soluble fertilizer. I mix up a 5 gallon bucket and give each plant a coffee can full. My garden is pretty small so it's not that big of a pain. I have a Chapin hose end that I'm going to mess around with and dial in to use on my flowerbeds. Once I have it down I'll switch to using it on my garden.

I also do a foliar spray with the same fert. No real schedule but about once a month. If you're going to spray a fungicide add some fert to that tank mix. Fungicides and ferts are very tank friendly.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/23 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by KRoyal
Man, all of yall's gardens are so far ahead of mine. How often do you guys liquid fertilize?

Wallace, will those hog panels keep your tomatoes growing up right? Same as the tomato grow cage would?

Thanks


About every 2-3 weeks on liquid/soluble fertilizer. I mix up a 5 gallon bucket and give each plant a coffee can full. My garden is pretty small so it's not that big of a pain. I have a Chapin hose end that I'm going to mess around with and dial in to use on my flowerbeds. Once I have it down I'll switch to using it on my garden.

I also do a foliar spray with the same fert. No real schedule but about once a month. If you're going to spray a fungicide add some fert to that tank mix. Fungicides and ferts are very tank friendly.

Thanks, I've been doing every 7-14 days on the 20-20-20 you suggested. Actually just did more this morning. I only mixed up 1 gallon though and pour directly at the roots of all the plants. Judging by how much you're putting on each plant maybe I'm not doing near enough LOL.

Project this weekend is soaker hose setup to water each row of the garden on a timer every morning. Going to have to test to see what the flow rate is so I can fine tune how long the water stays on. Then some more compost and mulch it. Gardening is getting expensive rofl but in the long run I'll be much happier eating my own grown veggies just like with my own chicken eggs.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/23 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Dalee7892
Planted peas and string beans twice not very good
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Dalee, how much sun does your garden get? It looks real shady like mine, which was why I thought maybe mine wasn't growing very well, but yours looks great.
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/23 04:57 PM

KR, mostly morning and late evening sun. I do water with miracle grow about every 7 to 10 days.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/23 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by KRoyal
Man, all of yall's gardens are so far ahead of mine. How often do you guys liquid fertilize?

Wallace, will those hog panels keep your tomatoes growing up right? Same as the tomato grow cage would?

Thanks


About every 2-3 weeks on liquid/soluble fertilizer. I mix up a 5 gallon bucket and give each plant a coffee can full. My garden is pretty small so it's not that big of a pain. I have a Chapin hose end that I'm going to mess around with and dial in to use on my flowerbeds. Once I have it down I'll switch to using it on my garden.

I also do a foliar spray with the same fert. No real schedule but about once a month. If you're going to spray a fungicide add some fert to that tank mix. Fungicides and ferts are very tank friendly.

Thanks, I've been doing every 7-14 days on the 20-20-20 you suggested. Actually just did more this morning. I only mixed up 1 gallon though and pour directly at the roots of all the plants. Judging by how much you're putting on each plant maybe I'm not doing near enough LOL.

Project this weekend is soaker hose setup to water each row of the garden on a timer every morning. Going to have to test to see what the flow rate is so I can fine tune how long the water stays on. Then some more compost and mulch it. Gardening is getting expensive rofl but in the long run I'll be much happier eating my own grown veggies just like with my own chicken eggs.


You might look into a fertigation system. Like the EZ Flo 3/4. You can get it online for about $70. Read the spec sheet and do some calculations and you'll know how much fert to use. You can use and soluble fert in them. I have one but haven't used it in years. I need to get it back out and setup a drip system in my flower beds. EZ Flo
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/23 08:27 PM

Thanks, that looks very cool and can just be ran in line with the soaker setup. I'll need to get me one of those.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/23 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
Thanks, that looks very cool and can just be ran in line with the soaker setup. I'll need to get me one of those.


I'm just here to help keep gardening get more expensive lol.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/23 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by KRoyal
Thanks, that looks very cool and can just be ran in line with the soaker setup. I'll need to get me one of those.


I'm just here to help keep gardening get more expensive lol.

roflmao cheers
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/23 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by KRoyal
Thanks, that looks very cool and can just be ran in line with the soaker setup. I'll need to get me one of those.


I'm just here to help keep gardening get more expensive lol.

That ain't no joke.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/29/23 10:57 PM

Cucumbers are starting to produce. They are still small and starting to climb. They are looking good and looking like they will produce really well this year.
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Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/23 08:05 PM

Has anyone used a large mirror to reflect sunlight on tomatoes in a shady area? nidea
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/30/23 11:52 PM

Nice Derek, I finally got some blooms going on.

Installed my automatic watering system today. Got it all mulched, but need a few more bags to fill in some bare spots. Even if I buy extra I’m always short on mulch lol. Got the poles installed for the FL Weave, we’ll see how that goes.

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Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/23 08:33 PM

The 'old people' raised bed experiment is working!!

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Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/23 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by talkturkey
The 'old people' raised bed experiment is working!!

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Awesome yields. Haven’t gotten anything yet but they’re coming in a lot better than last year.

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/10/23 08:51 PM

Look great guys!

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Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/23 12:39 AM

Planted my tomatos to close together, but they're still producing
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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/23 12:21 PM

Good onion and garlic year
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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/23 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by talkturkey
Planted my tomatos to close together, but they're still producing
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That looks awesome!
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/23 12:53 PM

Man, y’all are so far ahead of me lol.

Hell I finally got my first tomato forming. I’m good with it lol already 100% better than last year. I know this is a learning process but you’d think after 2 years I’d have learned something rofl

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Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/11/23 01:19 PM

All of my tomato plants have a little bit of fruit.

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Peppers just starting to form.

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Volunteer tomatoes (and an baby tree that needs pulled) popped up where my compost was...also looks like cucumber or cantaloupe coming up too.

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Here are the potatoes I planted in the middle of the yard. Daughter gave me some soft potatoes that were growing eyes so I chopped them up with a shovel and buried them in a few holes.

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Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/23 04:22 PM

Our garden is looking pretty good. Tomatoes, onions, garlic, lettuce, potatoes, carrots, cabbage, beans, herbs all looking great….Peppers still haven’t taken off yet really, hoping the warm weather will get them going.


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Posted By: Creekrunner

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/23 04:42 PM

^^^Wow, that looks nice! I particularly like the cut water tank into a "key" bed. Is that what you call it? (I'm not a gardener, but surely admire them.) Somebody's an overachiever. grin

Remember, most of the dead bodies still laying on Mount Everest were overachievers. laugh
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/23 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by Creekrunner
^^^Wow, that looks nice! I particularly like the cut water tank into a "key" bed. Is that what you call it? (I'm not a gardener, but surely admire them.) Somebody's an overachiever. grin

Remember, most of the dead bodies still laying on Mount Everest were overachievers. laugh



Haha!

Yes, that’s a “key hole garden”

It’s been a work in progress over a long period of time. My favorite thing is that I have every bed plumbed with a hose bib on 3 sections that I can set to water.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/12/23 08:13 PM

Outstanding Garden BradyBuck!! cheers
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/15/23 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by talkturkey
Planted my tomatos to close together, but they're still producing
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are those beds full of dirt or have bottoms in them mid way? looks great! what part of the country are you in?
Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/23 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by Poppa
Originally Posted by talkturkey
Planted my tomatos to close together, but they're still producing
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are those beds full of dirt or have bottoms in them mid way? looks great! what part of the country are you in?

They are full of dirt along with cow manure/hay compost. The cedar board beds have no bottoms, just laid card board on ground to help with weed control. The old water troughs we drilled lots of 1" holes in the bottoms. Put about 5" of sandy soil, then about 5" of manure/hay compost, then about 10" of sandy soil to top off. We have a front end loader on a tractor and the land we are on is sandy soil. The cow manure/hay compost we scooped up from old areas where we had hay rings set. Texas, Gulf Coast area and thanks! Also, it's all BradyBuck's fault roflmao Hopefully, over time, we'll get gravel on the ground, water lines, etc and get it looking half as purty as his!!
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/16/23 02:45 PM

thanks talkturkey. figured you had to be down south. those plants are way ahead of mine.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/17/23 10:29 AM

Mine is coming along. I need to get calcium on those tomatoes pretty soon. Still have an unplanted row. Not sure what I'll do there. I might just plant late and to harvest more in October.


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Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/18/23 11:10 PM

how do you raised bed farmers keep the fire ants out of the beds? tried taters a couple of times and the ants ate the taters as they developed?
Posted By: Ol Thumper

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/23 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by Poppa
how do you raised bed farmers keep the fire ants out of the beds? tried taters a couple of times and the ants ate the taters as they developed?


I came here looking for the same answer, hopefully someone has a good solution. We have every ant killing chemical known to man kind thanks to my wife but I’m clueless on what can be used around vegetables.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/20/23 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Ol Thumper
Originally Posted by Poppa
how do you raised bed farmers keep the fire ants out of the beds? tried taters a couple of times and the ants ate the taters as they developed?


I came here looking for the same answer, hopefully someone has a good solution. We have every ant killing chemical known to man kind thanks to my wife but I’m clueless on what can be used around vegetables.


If they have a den I can locate I use boiling water, dawn soap, and orange oil and drench the mound
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/23 12:56 AM

Depends on how you want to read a University study. Amdro is approved to use outside the garden and it does pretty well. I'm a fan of it. You'll also hear a lot of talk of Molasses. I'm a big fan of molasses. In the garden it's not a killer but a deterrent. I know Howard Garret and others talk about it. In a nutshell fire ants aren't really big fans of bio activity going on in the soil and Molasses(sugar/carbs) really get the microbes going during warmer temps. Molasses is cheap, like $9 a gallon at Tractor Supply for the Deer Hunting attractant. They actually stock it in the horse feed section. There is also dry you can spread. Orange oil also works well as drench. Lighter amounts won't burn roots/plants. Other products available.

http://fireant.tamu.edu/files/2014/03/ENTO_015.pdf
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/23 10:15 AM

Does diatomaceous earth work on ants? We use it against other bugs in edible plant areas.
Posted By: Payne

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/21/23 12:18 PM

You can mix epsom salt and water to spray the ants
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/23 03:13 AM

thanks for the replies. its an ongoing battle with these [censored]
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/25/23 01:45 PM

HOT DAMN GOT MY FIRST MATOR THIS MORNING!! chicken
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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/23 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
HOT DAMN GOT MY FIRST MATOR THIS MORNING!! chicken
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Nice! Your early planting gamble is paying off. cheers Mine are setting well and have tons of nice greens ones. Going to be a great gardening year.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/23 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by fredeboy
HOT DAMN GOT MY FIRST MATOR THIS MORNING!! chicken
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Nice! Your early planting gamble is paying off. cheers Mine are setting well and have tons of nice greens ones. Going to be a great gardening year.

Yep mine are a bit behind but they coming in. Romas more than the cherries or brandy wine.

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Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/23 01:43 AM

I have to say these are the strongest plants I have ever grown. All the rabbit poop has really done its job!! The improved porter in the middle of the bed is over 9 feet tall and loaded
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Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/23 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
I have to say these are the strongest plants I have ever grown. All the rabbit poop has really done its job!! The improved porter in the middle of the bed is over 9 feet tall and loaded
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Dayum yea I think I’m just not getting enough sun. I only get maybe 4 hours a day, there is a community garden down the street from me that probably gets at least 12 hours a day and their plants are huge but mine seem to be producing more than theirs unless they’ve already harvested.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/23 02:09 AM

The Improved Porter will take on a life of it's own. It's an enigma. When I grew it I bent a 16' cattle panel in half as a cage/support and it grew a few feet above the top of it. Crazy good producer and great tomato.
Posted By: TPACK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/23 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
The Improved Porter will take on a life of it's own. It's an enigma. When I grew it I bent a 16' cattle panel in half as a cage/support and it grew a few feet above the top of it. Crazy good producer and great tomato.


Gene Porter was my neighbor when I was growing up and a very nice man. I believe him or his father introduce the very popular porter tomato. They had a huge seed supply store in Stephenville, and everyone planted the porter tomato who had a garden. I ate my share growing up.

http://www.saveseeds.org/company_history/porter/index.html
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/23 08:34 PM

Interesting story TPACK. Thanks for sharing cheers
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/23 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
HOT DAMN GOT MY FIRST MATOR THIS MORNING!! chicken
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I know what You Know Who would do with that..... up
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/26/23 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by fredeboy
HOT DAMN GOT MY FIRST MATOR THIS MORNING!! chicken
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bounce BLT in your future.
Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/27/23 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by Old Rabbit
Originally Posted by fredeboy
HOT DAMN GOT MY FIRST MATOR THIS MORNING!! chicken
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bounce BLT in your future.


bruschetta coming soon!! banana2
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/23 12:57 AM

I have several tomatoes plants that the leaves and stalks are dropping as if the plant Is dying. Yesterday they looked fine. I water in the morning and feed miracle grow every 7 - 10 days.
What's going on? HELP!!!
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/23 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by Dalee7892
I have several tomatoes plants that the leaves and stalks are dropping as if the plant Is dying. Yesterday they looked fine. I water in the morning and feed miracle grow every 7 - 10 days.
What's going on? HELP!!!


Post a pic. Any discoloration or other symptom?

Picked my first two Saturday AM.

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Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/23 02:45 PM

I’ve seen great growth this season. I have 4 types of watermelons, zucchini, corn, cabbage, potatoes, cucumbers, cantaloupe, Honeydew, okra, bell peppers, basil, beets, butternut squash, acorn squash, spaghetti squash, and of course tomato’s

Also planted some hops rhizomes.

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I need to do some weeding. I’m going to get some more weed block cloth and install to help keep the weeds down

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Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/23 04:47 PM

Celebrity tomatoes are doing very well, maybe best year ever. Cucumbers have a lot of green vegetation and blooms but zero cucumbers. thoughts?
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/28/23 07:30 PM

GasGuzzler, looks like by skipping a day of watering was the issue. I water the plants in last afternoon they look a lot better today. I did cut off some of the worst looking areas.
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/23 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Dalee7892
GasGuzzler, looks like by skipping a day of watering was the issue. I water the plants in last afternoon they look a lot better today.


I don't water mine often. Maybe you can wean them back a little.

Originally Posted by Dalee7892
I did cut off some of the worst looking areas.


Try breaking them off. My grandpa taught me that if a tomato plant is making more greens than flowers and fruit, snap a few of the tops of the stalks to shock the plant into reproduction. He would also shake his tomato plants to shock them.

Originally Posted by Wilhunt
Cucumbers have a lot of green vegetation and blooms but zero cucumbers. thoughts?


How many plants? You have to get the right combination when dealing with melons, squash, cucumbers. They gotta "mate" via cross-polination...also why you don't want melons near squash or cucumbers and vice versa. I have gotten cucumelons and squash-a-melons before.
Posted By: Wilhunt

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 05/29/23 05:07 PM

Have 8 cucumber plants, did find one large one yesterday,
Posted By: drag13honda

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/23 05:56 AM

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Anyone have a guess what's going on with my lemon tree? I can try to get a better pic in the daytime if needed.
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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/03/23 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by drag13honda
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Anyone have a guess what's going on with my lemon tree? I can try to get a better pic in the daytime if needed.


Those are Scales. They suck the sap out. You need to spray with neem oil.
Posted By: drag13honda

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/07/23 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
Originally Posted by drag13honda
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Anyone have a guess what's going on with my lemon tree? I can try to get a better pic in the daytime if needed.


Those are Scales. They suck the sap out. You need to spray with neem oil.

Thanks for the reply. I've never used neem oil before, anything specific I should be looking for when I go to buy it?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/23 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by drag13honda
Thanks for the reply. I've never used neem oil before, anything specific I should be looking for when I go to buy it?


It's pretty straight forward. It will be 70% neem active ingredient. Personally I've had better luck with Horticultural oil for scale. At the end of the day we're working with "oils" so you gotta be careful. Temp restriction of 85 degrees. So you don't want to go out at 2pm and willy nilly spray everything down or you're going to burn it up. Go out at dusk and once it's cooled down a bit and spray it and the temps will stay cooler overnight. Don't go over label recommendations, as more is not better. I'd probably cut the label rate in half with the heat coming next week.
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/08/23 10:41 AM

What kind of pepper is this? Got four jalapeno starter plants at Home Depot. The other three are proper. This one is something else.

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Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/09/23 12:04 PM

No one knows...
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/23 03:12 AM

A few harvest photos

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Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/23 04:57 AM

Originally Posted by GasGuzzler
What kind of pepper is this? Got four jalapeno starter plants at Home Depot. The other three are proper. This one is something else.

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early/first sweet bananna is my guess
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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/23 05:27 AM

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Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/11/23 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Poppa
Originally Posted by GasGuzzler
What kind of pepper is this? Got four jalapeno starter plants at Home Depot. The other three are proper. This one is something else.


early/first sweet bananna is my guess

Thanks. Seems a little darker in color than a banana pepper.

Looks like a "long bell pepper" and I found out yesterday it tastes like a bell pepper too. No other flowers on that plant.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/12/23 12:25 PM

Maters are coming in good. My son keeps eating all the cherry tomatoes that are ripe right off the vine so haven’t gotten any yet lol, but there are a ton of green ones so I’m sure they’ll ripen all at the same time and he won’t be able to eat them all. Same with my black Berry bushes. Probably won’t get anything off them until this fall though.

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Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/23 05:30 PM

I’m getting closer to harvesting some tomatoes. They look much more healthy than last year

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/23 05:56 PM

Y'alls gardens are looking great.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/23 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by GasGuzzler
What kind of pepper is this? Got four jalapeno starter plants at Home Depot. The other three are proper. This one is something else.

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That looks like a CARMEN , a sweet red pepper (red when ripened on the plant). Not hot.
I get a couple every year - good with fajitas, like a bell pepper.

Word is a seed supplier (to nurseries) got pepper seeds all mixed up this year.
Two of my supposed 'jalapeno' starters turned out to be yellow banana peppers (and they're yellow even when small/unripe) but making some nice peppers.
Posted By: bobcat1

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/23 10:46 PM

Some of the leaves on my tomato plants are turning yellow and 2 squash plants have all but died. Container garden. Tomatoes are making, Squash really isn't. Peppers are doing great though.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/14/23 11:50 PM

Here is where I am at with my little single row garden. This year I went with three kinds of small watermelons and a Hügelkultur style mound. You will have to google that to find out what it is. wink I added some yard long beans just because I had a lot of the seeds from last years plants. For pest control I added some Python Snake beans as an experiment. The plants give off a strong peanut butter like scent that only gets stronger if the plant is disturbed and no insect will get near it except some kind of moth that pollinates it at night. It seems to be working so far. The plan this year was to plant the seeds and do nothing but water them as needed. I don't fertilize it or pull weeds, and no mulching. Watering is via a soaker hose left in place and timer. On the other side of the trellis fence outside of the garden row are some volunteer tomatoes came up that I am treating the same and just mow around them. They look like they are going to be a hybrid between some orange tomatoes from Ukraine and yellow pear tomatoes that I had in the garden last year. I had thought a hail storm wiped them out at one point, but the plants recovered from the damage rather fast. Not bad for a mostly hands off garden row.

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Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/23 12:05 AM

For a hands off garden you’re doing great!!
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/23 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
For a hands off garden you’re doing great!!

Yea I’d say that’s pretty good for hands off lol. Hell looks better than my hands on garden rofl
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/23 01:49 AM

Here is what the volunteer tomatoes look like. Lots of unripe ones all through it. Has to be a cross between last year's plants.

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Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/23 02:15 AM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
For a hands off garden you’re doing great!!

Yea I’d say that’s pretty good for hands off lol. Hell looks better than my hands on garden rofl


I am real surprised how well it is doing. The wife and I spend several days a month at a Lakehouse on Fork. Everytime I come home I expect to see the garden destroyed by something, but instead it has always grown more like a bunch of weeds. Picking up a new Vizsla pup in less than two months. That may be this garden's end. Young Vizslas are like little Velociraptors.
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/23 10:33 AM

My most beaten tomato starter has the most fruit on it. It's the way it is sometimes.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/23 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by bobcat1
Some of the leaves on my tomato plants are turning yellow and 2 squash plants have all but died. Container garden. Tomatoes are making, Squash really isn't. Peppers are doing great though.

Mine about the same, but have gotten a little squash. It's been too dang cloudy last several weeks, and when the sun does come out it just burns!
Tomatoes doing lousy this year so far, but have gotten some fruit from them so far - plants just don't look anything like they have in past years.
Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/23 07:23 PM

My harvest for today

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/23 08:12 PM

Cucumbers are out of control. Tomatoes doing well.

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Posted By: fredeboy

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/15/23 09:30 PM

Well the plants are starting to look a little rough but the amount and quality of tomatoes we have picked the last 3 weeks has been amazing! cheers
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Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/23 06:03 PM

What is this? Squirrel nibbling or is it something worse like bugs or fungus? A couple of my tomatoes I picked today looked the same where some didn’t.

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Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/23 07:24 PM

bird
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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/23 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
What is this? Squirrel nibbling or is it something worse like bugs or fungus? A couple of my tomatoes I picked today looked the same where some didn’t.

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We had several like that and ours ended up being caused by Mockingbirds,
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/23 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by Sniper John
bird

Originally Posted by Ol Thumper
We had several like that and ours ended up being caused by Mockingbirds,


Thanks, makes sense, what about the black hole on the bottom? Same thing or something different?

Any pointers on getting the birds to leave them alone?
Posted By: Ol Thumper

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/23 07:47 PM

I’m definitely not a vegetable guru and wouldn’t have had a clue if I didn’t witness the birds pecking at them so I’m not sure about the black hole.

We had a couple plastic owl decoys from a previous bird issue that failed miserably then but I put them on the top of t posts this time and it’s keeping the birds for now. I’m sure they’ll be back at them in a few days but for now it’s working.,
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/23 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by Ol Thumper
I’m definitely not a vegetable guru and wouldn’t have had a clue if I didn’t witness the birds pecking at them so I’m not sure about the black hole.

We had a couple plastic owl decoys from a previous bird issue that failed miserably then but I put them on the top of t posts this time and it’s keeping the birds for now. I’m sure they’ll be back at them in a few days but for now it’s working.,

up I put up 2 scarecrows last year and it didn't seem to phase any critters.
Posted By: Ol Thumper

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/23 08:04 PM

That’s the results we had with the owls last year but for the moment their working, I think a pellet gun might be the best option for a long term solution.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/23 08:30 PM

Mockingbirds are the worst. As soon as you see your tomatoes start to turn red(blush) pick them and let them ripe inside. They also love little pequin peppers. I've had them pick a plant clean in just a couple days.
Posted By: Ol Thumper

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/20/23 08:43 PM

Those pesky Mockingbirds have been eating the wife’s Donkey Tails like skittles, their the only birds we have issues with.
Posted By: bobcat1

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/23 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
Originally Posted by Sniper John
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Originally Posted by Ol Thumper
We had several like that and ours ended up being caused by Mockingbirds,


Thanks, makes sense, what about the black hole on the bottom? Same thing or something different?

Any pointers on getting the birds to leave them alone?

Dogs and cats
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/21/23 09:09 PM

I used a bigger bird

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Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/23 01:27 AM

I may need to get one of those. grin
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/23 10:29 AM

We have mocking birds. They keep me up all night but don't bother my garden.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/22/23 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by Hunter-Steve
I may need to get one of those. grin

Same! Might have to cut me one out with a jigsaw when I get back from vacation.
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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/23/23 02:45 AM

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Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/23 04:42 PM

I have had my first run in with the invasive Brown Marmorated stink bugs, just about wiped me out this year, most the vegetables, plums and peaches,

Been in contact with my county extension agent and they made the confirmation and are researching into it, The USDA made just has a few Texas counties confirmed including Dallas and Tarrant, now Wise,

They invade like grasshoppers in high numbers.
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/23 04:47 PM

This was in March day after first treatmentm there was probably over 1000 earlier that am when I hit them with soapy malathion
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Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/28/23 04:49 PM

This was a few put in alcohol so I could get photos to the Agent for confirmation, If you haven't had them (you'd know), you wont like it

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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/23 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by Western
This was a few put in alcohol so I could get photos to the Agent for confirmation, If you haven't had them (you'd know), you wont like it

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What is plan going forward for control?
Posted By: Western

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 06/29/23 12:58 PM

From what I've gathered so far, USDA, Rutgers U and U of Georgia are doing test with their natural predators, small wasp, to see what other native bugs could be impacted.
In the mean time, pretty much the same pesticides work on them as for the native stink bugs, I think the main thing with these is the numbers and plants they will attack, found them in my Okra and snap beans yesterday,

Since I have bees, I'm extra careful with pesticides, so I've been spraying them individually with dawn ultra and half oz permethrin in a zap spray bottle. When they where on my fruit tree early in the year, I used Malathion in a hoes end sprayer just at dark

If you're bored
https://www.epa.gov/safepestcontrol/brown-marmorated-stink-bug

https://www.invasivespeciesinfo.gov/terrestrial/invertebrates/brown-marmorated-stink-bug

https://njaes.rutgers.edu/stink-bug/
Posted By: talkturkey

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/14/23 11:24 PM

The old people raised bed garden experiment has been a success! Freezer full of vacuum sealed corn on the cob, peppers, squash and melon; shelves full of canned green beans, pickles, relish, whole maters, mater juice, okra gumbo, mator preserves, and green mater salsa. Gonna add a little soil, add an irrigation system and get ready for fall planting! When do yall start your fall garden? (AND retirement is AWESOME!)

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/15/23 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by talkturkey
The old people raised bed garden experiment has been a success! Freezer full of vacuum sealed corn on the cob, peppers, squash and melon; shelves full of canned green beans, pickles, relish, whole maters, mater juice, okra gumbo, mator preserves, and green mater salsa. Gonna add a little soil, add an irrigation system and get ready for fall planting! When do yall start your fall garden? (AND retirement is AWESOME!)

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This is awesome! You're killing it TT. Great work good sir. Keep it up. up
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/17/23 04:22 PM

Am I watering too much? Went out this morning and these are growing all over my garden.

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/17/23 05:25 PM

Nothing to worry about. That's a good sign. Your soil is active and have organic matter breaking down which intern are supplying extra nutrients to your roots. Seeing shrooms is kinda the fungi version of seeing earthworms, it's good to see. Now just don't get all liquored up and lick them like Bullfrog wants to do.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/17/23 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Nothing to worry about. That's a good sign. Your soil is active and have organic matter breaking down which intern are supplying extra nutrients to your roots. Seeing shrooms is kinda the fungi version of seeing earthworms, it's good to see. Now just don't get all liquored up and lick them like Bullfrog wants to do.

Good deal! Figured the growth was a good thing but have never seen them before like this. I'm talking my entire garden row after row has them clustered like this.

cheers Thanks Derek!
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/17/23 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by talkturkey
The old people raised bed garden experiment has been a success! Freezer full of vacuum sealed corn on the cob, peppers, squash and melon; shelves full of canned green beans, pickles, relish, whole maters, mater juice, okra gumbo, mator preserves, and green mater salsa. Gonna add a little soil, add an irrigation system and get ready for fall planting! When do yall start your fall garden? (AND retirement is AWESOME!)

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This is awesome! You're killing it TT. Great work good sir. Keep it up. up

Yea he is! I'm about to jump into canning. Mostly salsa, but will be canning other things as I grow them. I'm also interested in the Fall Garden info as well.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/23 04:40 PM

So TexasLefty brought me some pequins that he picked in the wild down in Realitos. I got a few started and chose the best one, re-potted in a Texas Lowe’s bucket with 29 Shiner bottle caps(his birthday’s June 29) and I used a mix of what I call my “magic dirt” that I’ve been using since all this pepper stuff started and a small amount of Mykos at the roots to make sure those keep doing well. Here in a few weeks he’ll take delivery of a cool little plant and have all the peppers he can pick and eat soon enough, whenever Texas decides to abort “Hell” status heat levels
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Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/23/23 04:41 PM

Little sucker’s already makin’ little flowers like crazy
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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/28/23 12:42 AM

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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/28/23 12:44 AM

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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/28/23 12:44 AM

It has begun . . . . .
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 07/28/23 02:38 AM

Originally Posted by Bullfrog
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That sucker had a bunch of buds on it. My plants get maybe 2-3 at a time rofl
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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/01/23 04:00 PM

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Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/03/23 03:02 PM

Garden is booming.

Made a few batches of salsa, salsa verde, marinara and one jar of pickles so far.


Marinara was made with 100% garden herbs and vegetables, it’s amazing!

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Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/03/23 03:04 PM

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Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/03/23 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by BradyBuck
Garden is booming.


That it is! Great job.
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/04/23 02:39 PM

Just went out and harvested these this morning. Thinking about putting the carrots in a roast for supper.


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Posted By: Ol Thumper

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/13/23 06:24 AM

How much are you guys with taller raised beds with tin on the sides watering your gardens with this heat? I can’t seem to find the happy spot they like and I’m currently watering every morning for 10 minutes in well draining composted material. Back when it was raining every day everything was very happy but I’m not sure if I need to cut the water back or add more to it now?
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/13/23 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by Ol Thumper
How much are you guys with taller raised beds with tin on the sides watering your gardens with this heat? I can’t seem to find the happy spot they like and I’m currently watering every morning for 10 minutes in well draining composted material. Back when it was raining every day everything was very happy but I’m not sure if I need to cut the water back or add more to it now?



Hmm??

Well I have raised beds but I’m watering for one hour 3 times a week on my a drip system.

You are better off completely saturating your soil deep 2-3 times a week versus light watering everyday.
Posted By: Ol Thumper

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/13/23 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by BradyBuck
Originally Posted by Ol Thumper
How much are you guys with taller raised beds with tin on the sides watering your gardens with this heat? I can’t seem to find the happy spot they like and I’m currently watering every morning for 10 minutes in well draining composted material. Back when it was raining every day everything was very happy but I’m not sure if I need to cut the water back or add more to it now?



Hmm??

Well I have raised beds but I’m watering for one hour 3 times a week on my a drip system.

You are better off completely saturating your soil deep 2-3 times a week versus light watering everyday.


I just changed the timer to water 3 times a week for a good soaking so I’ll try this and see how it works. All of the peppers are doing great but everything else has been struggling.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/14/23 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Ol Thumper
Originally Posted by BradyBuck
Originally Posted by Ol Thumper
How much are you guys with taller raised beds with tin on the sides watering your gardens with this heat? I can’t seem to find the happy spot they like and I’m currently watering every morning for 10 minutes in well draining composted material. Back when it was raining every day everything was very happy but I’m not sure if I need to cut the water back or add more to it now?



Hmm??

Well I have raised beds but I’m watering for one hour 3 times a week on my a drip system.

You are better off completely saturating your soil deep 2-3 times a week versus light watering everyday.


I just changed the timer to water 3 times a week for a good soaking so I’ll try this and see how it works. All of the peppers are doing great but everything else has been struggling.


Think I might do the same. My stuff is starting to struggle and get a little yellow/orange on the bottom of the plants like they’re starting to die or fry up.
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 08/14/23 03:22 PM

my peppers are thriving (after going a week or so without water, my wife forgot about them) but our tomatoes are struggling in this heat, still producing, but look horrible. we are watering every other day.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/02/23 12:47 AM

What is this? I’ve noticed it on my Roma Tomatoes but thought they were just getting too ripe in the heat but today found these 2 that just sprouted and they have the same thing.

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/02/23 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
What is this? I’ve noticed it on my Roma Tomatoes but thought they were just getting too ripe in the heat but today found these 2 that just sprouted and they have the same thing.

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That’s blossom end rot. Calcium Nitrate is your friend.

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Posted By: maximum

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/02/23 03:50 PM

I've been using roma the last decade or so, and I've been
having various troubles with them the last few years.
I personally think it's the quality of the seed
Next year I'm going back to early girl and some kind of
cherry tomatoes and maybe improved porters
Bell peppers are iffy now as well, but the banana peppers
keep on keeping on
It's the seed IMO
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/02/23 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by maximum
I've been using roma the last decade or so, and I've been
having various troubles with them the last few years.
I personally think it's the quality of the seed
Next year I'm going back to early girl and some kind of
cherry tomatoes and maybe improved porters
Bell peppers are iffy now as well, but the banana peppers
keep on keeping on
It's the seed IMO


If you start by seed try King Arthur bell peppers. I’ve grown them the last two years and have been very pleased with them. Plum Regal and Martinos romas have done well for me. Haven’t grown improved porter in a few years but that is a tough tomato to beat.
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/05/23 03:54 PM

I’ve got okra coming out my ears and there’s only so much we can fry and eat. Any tips on preserving okra?

Trying pickling some with water, vinegar, salt, sugar, dill, garlic and pepper corns. Any other recipes?

Also our tomatoes became infested with these blister Beatles. We have harvested hundreds of tomatoes this year and canned a lot of them so I we decided to go ahead and pull them.

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Posted By: KRoyal

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/06/23 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by Derek

That’s blossom end rot. Calcium Nitrate is your friend.

Cal Mag


Thank you sir, I'll get some ordered up
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 09/15/23 03:30 PM

Not bad for our first garden and still have more coming.

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Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/15/23 05:37 PM

Winter gardens anyone?

We have broccoli, Brussels sprouts, garlic, carrots, kale, lettuce all up and going.

So far we have had a mild winter but I’m assuming we will need to cover if we dip down much below freezing?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/15/23 09:15 PM

Haven't in the past but need to. Going to see what my nursery has tomorrow. Planting onions tomorrow too.
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/15/23 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Haven't in the past but need to. Going to see what my nursery has tomorrow. Planting onions tomorrow too.


Oh yeah, I’ve got onions and shallots going also…
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/16/23 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by BradyBuck
Originally Posted by Derek
Haven't in the past but need to. Going to see what my nursery has tomorrow. Planting onions tomorrow too.


Oh yeah, I’ve got onions and shallots going also…


I typically plant onions on black Friday. Had a shipping week the week after from Dixiondale and never got an update. Called them this week and they said somehow my ship date got moved to Jan 4th. She said they were up to date on shipping and would get them out that day. Some computer mx up. No biggie.They were/are great to deal with.
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/29/23 05:47 PM

I was thinking about getting my pepper seeds going. Is it too early?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/29/23 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
I was thinking about getting my pepper seeds going. Is it too early?


Nope. Perfect time. I start mine on New Years every year
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/29/23 09:08 PM

I had a goat get in my garden, ate our broccoli, Brussels sprouts, lettuce, kale, carrots, garlic, onions, shallots…

Garlic, onions, shallots hopefully fine…

Going to try a d replant the rest
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/29/23 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by BradyBuck
I had a goat get in my garden, ate our broccoli, Brussels sprouts, lettuce, kale, carrots, garlic, onions, shallots…

Garlic, onions, shallots hopefully fine…

Going to try a d replant the rest


Should make for some real tasty birria then. wink
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 12/30/23 02:14 AM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
I was thinking about getting my pepper seeds going. Is it too early?


Narrowed it down and these are my starts this year.
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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/01/24 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
I was thinking about getting my pepper seeds going. Is it too early?


Let’s go!!!
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Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/04/24 08:47 PM

Looks good. I only have 3 types: Giant chocolate habs, KS lemon starburst, and ghost pepper

We ate a lot of okra, eggplant and tomatoes last year. I think I will narrow down the peppers and go with things I know work really well and everyone will eat in my garden.

I might put the peppers in their own pots. Is a 5 gallon big enough?
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/04/24 10:44 PM

5 gallon should be good. Bullfrog only uses pots and does really well. Need to ask him what size he's using
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/09/24 02:28 PM

Got 55 peppers started. Now I just got to keep the garage warm. Next Mod/Tue will be a struggle.
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Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/11/24 07:21 PM

I hadn't paid any attention to my small garden in over a month, maybe 2 ... I looked at it yesterday to find a couple of ripe cherry tomatoes and likely 2 dozen larger green ones. My pepper plants have bunch of small peppers and blooms. I guess I need to pick the tomatoes & peppers before this freeze.
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/24/24 07:46 PM

I planted 36 seeds on Jan 1st and only have 2 plants poking out. I'm warming correctly, using lights correctly, watering correctly, ventilating correctly. Don't know why only 2 have made it and 34 have not yet. I got a lot riding on these 2 plants if they are going to be my only ones.

Edit: All peppers
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/24/24 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
I planted 36 seeds on Jan 1st and only have 2 plants poking out. I'm warming correctly, using lights correctly, watering correctly, ventilating correctly. Don't know why only 2 have made it and 34 have not yet. I got a lot riding on these 2 plants if they are going to be my only ones.

Edit: All peppers


Did you do any pre-germination like soak them in potassium nitrate overnight then into a paper towel/coffee filter for a week? Are you using any type of humidity dome? I started Jan 1 and had 51 of 60 germinate as of last night.

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Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/24/24 10:48 PM

No to the potassium nitrate, yes to the humidity dome which I am still doing. I let it breathe for a couple of hours each day after watering.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/25/24 03:25 AM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
No to the potassium nitrate, yes to the humidity dome which I am still doing. I let it breathe for a couple of hours each day after watering.


Going to ask a lot of questions and ramble some so work with me on it. And we'll work and figure it out. Assuming you didn't paper towel/coffee filter for a week.

What is your starter mix and how did you prep it? I mix a big batch in tub, add water to make it moist but not wet. Fill 4" pots, put a ziplock on top and rubber band to create a humidity dome.

You mention you take the dome off to let them breathe after watering. No need to do this. If your soil mix is good from the start there is no need to water them again until they germinate. Leave the dome on and if it gets cloudy with moisture, you're good. 2 days ago was the first time I've watered since sowing.

What are your temps?

This is my first year bypassing the starter treys and going from coffee filter to 4" pots with a ziplock/rubber band top. It was a little slow to start, but they are popping off now. 52 of 60 tonight.

These are my initial thoughts. Not proper pre germ process, you're overwatering, let the humidity in the starter pot treys do their thing, temps and AIDS. It always defaults back to HIV/AIDS. Let's get all the info on your starts and bet we can increase your germ rate.
Posted By: Triplesnake

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/25/24 04:15 PM

The other thing you might look at is, what seed stock are you using? Is it all fresh seed from quality sources? I started my peppers 10 days ago and have 18 of 25 sprouted already, including several super hot varieties which are known to be harder to sprout. Some of the ones that haven't come up yet are seeds that are a year old. I'm also using a heating pad and humidity dome, and did not do any pre-soak.
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/25/24 05:57 PM

I used a bag mix of vegetable garden soil in my trays. I have been watering periodically and keeping the dome off for about 2 hours and I turn the light off because I read that it is bad for the plants and can burn them up.

The heating pad is on low beneath the trays at about 75 degrees; I'm guessing I screwed this up and I am left with 2 plants, if they make it.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/25/24 06:25 PM

Give it some time and see what happens. I planted 3 scotch bonnet seeds and one of the three just germinated last night.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/25/24 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by Triplesnake
The other thing you might look at is, what seed stock are you using? Is it all fresh seed from quality sources? I started my peppers 10 days ago and have 18 of 25 sprouted already, including several super hot varieties which are known to be harder to sprout. Some of the ones that haven't come up yet are seeds that are a year old. I'm also using a heating pad and humidity dome, and did not do any pre-soak.


What peppers are you growing?
Posted By: Triplesnake

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/25/24 09:19 PM

In no particular order:
Mad Hatter
Giant Marconi
3 varieties of poblano
Bad brains
Death Spiral
Devil's Nagabrains red
Ruby Delite
Mama Mia Giallo
Buena Mulata

I'll also pick up a few plants from Home Depo, like Serrano, Yellow Banana, and maybe cayenne.

I was just at Lowes and they already had some bell, jalapeno and serrano out.Seems early for bedding plants.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 01/25/24 10:05 PM

Nice list! I think Bonnie fronts the plants to the box stores and once they get scanned at checkout is when they are billed for them so Bonnie is the one taking the gamble of a freeze. At least that's what I've heard before.
Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/03/24 03:15 AM

Onions went in yesterday.

Peppers and tomatoes are started.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/13/24 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
I planted 36 seeds on Jan 1st and only have 2 plants poking out. I'm warming correctly, using lights correctly, watering correctly, ventilating correctly. Don't know why only 2 have made it and 34 have not yet. I got a lot riding on these 2 plants if they are going to be my only ones.

Edit: All peppers


Did your germination get any better? I just had a choc hab and a scotch bonnet germinate yesterday and today, so took about 45 days on those two.
Posted By: TomBaty

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/15/24 02:24 AM

Put in a garden for the first time this year. On Feb 6 I put in 72 onion sets, and 1x 18' row each of turnips, collards, and carrots. Saw my first sprouts on the collards yesterday, and turnips today. The onions haven't grown much, but have healthy, green, flexible stems. No sign of the carrots yet, but the package said they may take up to 21 days to germinate. I had an incredible germination rate on the collards (Alabama blue); I'll have to heavily thin them. I thought the kids would get a kick out of a garden, but I've found I've been the most excited of the group!
Posted By: Triplesnake

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/15/24 10:03 PM

When I was a kid, I always viewed Dad's garden as another source of chores (weeding). That was until it came time to harvest. Kids seem to love that part if they have any interest at all.

The thing that really got me interested in growing onions was a series of posts a couple years ago by Derek showing some monsters he had grown. This year I've got 4 rows of Texas Legend planted. I planted a little late this year, but they are looking good after surviving the freeze. This weekend is time for another round of Ammonium Sulfate!
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/15/24 10:07 PM

A guy on the TFF gardening thread put me onto the Texas Legends and I have been very pleased with them. I planted a box of Red Creole this year and they are looking really good.
Posted By: Triplesnake

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/15/24 10:20 PM

For Christmas, we were gifted a mini greenhouse form Amazon. I had my doubts on how effective it would be, but I've been very happy with it so far. It will hold a good amount of heat in the sun. I've seen temps over 90 when it was just in the 70's outside. My pepper plants have been in there since we transplanted them, and not under grow lights for over 2 weeks now and they are doing great. We only have had to bring them in a couple of times when the night time lows got below 50. We transplanted tomatoes yesterday and they will live in the green house starting next week .
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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/16/24 12:33 AM

That looks really good. I’ll have to look into one of those. I brought mine into the house the week it was really cold and I would be at work and wasn’t sure how warm my garage would stay. I’ve had some garage temps this year in the upper 40’s and lots of 50’s nights and my peppers have done great. When I’m home I have a little space heater I run when it’s cold out to keep that area warm. Past couple weeks the garage temp has been great and the peppers are starting to hangout some good growth. Tomatoes and cucumbers germinate a couple days ago. They are on the bottom rack
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Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/16/24 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
I planted 36 seeds on Jan 1st and only have 2 plants poking out. I'm warming correctly, using lights correctly, watering correctly, ventilating correctly. Don't know why only 2 have made it and 34 have not yet. I got a lot riding on these 2 plants if they are going to be my only ones.

Edit: All peppers


Did your germination get any better? I just had a choc hab and a scotch bonnet germinate yesterday and today, so took about 45 days on those two.


Ah man, I threw them out last week. I thought they were all duds. The 2 that did sprout is now down to 1, which is the KS Lemon Starburst. I only have that 1 seed remaining, it needs to hang on.
Posted By: Wytex

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/19/24 07:08 PM

Anyone want some old seeds?
I have a mix of various hot and not so hot pepper seeds from 2019 and up to about 2021 if anyone is interested.
They have been kept in my frig and I did germinated some last year.

I have bad luck lately getting my hot pepper to set blossoms because of our temps. Been wasting some plants I grow from seeds so now I just buy plants, ugh.

I would be willing to put them in the mail for free and send them.

Maybe take a some dried hot peppers end of the year if you had some in trade, I make smoked, spicy sea salt.
Not requiring a trade though just a thought.

All are open I think and some may not have many seeds in the pack.

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/21/24 08:57 PM

This is the best my lemon and lime tree have ever bloomed.

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Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/21/24 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
This is the best my lemon and lime tree have ever bloomed.

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If all of those blooms set, you will have to put in some major support for those limbs. I bet those smell good.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/21/24 10:14 PM

I got 0 lemons and 5 limes last year. I didn't water them much or take very good care of them during the heat and drought. Year before I got like 25 lemons.
Posted By: DukeCigars

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/25/24 11:51 PM

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Giving my hand at a green thumb

Funny, cuz it wasn’t all that long ago, Sundays I’d be out gettin drunk, chasin [censored], and flippin the bird to the law. Now my wife has me starting a veggie garden….and I love it

Got to makin my own hot sauce so figured I’d grow my own peppers
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 02/26/24 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by DukeCigars
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Giving my hand at a green thumb

Funny, cuz it wasn’t all that long ago, Sundays I’d be out gettin drunk, chasin [censored], and flippin the bird to the law. Now my wife has me starting a veggie garden….and I love it

Got to makin my own hot sauce so figured I’d grow my own peppers


Nice. That is awesome.
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/24 02:41 PM

My one little lemon starburst pepper plant is hanging on but not really showing any growth. I hope I don't lose it.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/24 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by rolyat.nosaj
My one little lemon starburst pepper plant is hanging on but not really showing any growth. I hope I don't lose it.


I've got a Scotch Bonnet and a Chocolate Hab that haven't done much. I've been rotating plants out of a soaking tub. They are just now starting to grow and have doubled in size this week. Their sisters are 5" tall.

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Posted By: Triplesnake

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/01/24 04:00 PM

I was moving everybody back into the greenhouse after this last chill, so I snapped a group shot. I was hoping to wait 2 more weeks to put them int he ground. Not sure the tomatoes will make it that long! I decided to use peat pots this year. Seeing a lot of mold on the outside of them now. I don't think that will be an issue.

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/24 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by Triplesnake
I was moving everybody back into the greenhouse after this last chill, so I snapped a group shot. I was hoping to wait 2 more weeks to put them int he ground. Not sure the tomatoes will make it that long! I decided to use peat pots this year. Seeing a lot of mold on the outside of them now. I don't think that will be an issue.


Those look great!
Posted By: maximum

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/02/24 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by Triplesnake
. . . I decided to use peat pots this year. . . .


I used to use those peat pots for a long time when they were
relatively inexpensive. For a while now I've been using the
fiber egg cartons. Cut the top "lid" off. Use that for a tray of
sorts for the bottom section. Poke a knife blade hole in the
bottom of each section. Set the bottom piece in the top piece
and 2 seeds in each segment. Top off with potting soil and
water carefully. I usually have a bottled water bottle with a
nail hole in the lid for a watering "can" (they're everywhere)

Good Luck to everybody with your vegetables this year.
I hope everybody has a big harvest
Posted By: Triplesnake

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/24 07:31 PM

Gentlemen! Start your engines!

Anyone else putting your plants in the ground?

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/12/24 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by Triplesnake
Gentlemen! Start your engines!

Anyone else putting your plants in the ground?


Looking good! I just got some compost yesterday to top off my beds. I might try and plant this weekend. If not I'll be in ground some day next week.
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/24 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by Triplesnake
Gentlemen! Start your engines!

Anyone else putting your plants in the ground?


I put onions in a month ago. Peppers and tomatoes soon. My live oak dumped twice this winter/spring so I was busy vacuuming the yard.
Posted By: Triplesnake

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/24 01:51 PM

Those live oaks are a pain this time of year for sure. I went over to MIL's house yesterday to give her some seedlings I had left over, and it looked like her live oak had puked all over her back yard. I spent more time helping clean that up then I did planting a handful of veggies.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/24 03:15 PM

Pepper, cukes and tomatoes are rocking and ready to be planted.
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Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/24 04:11 PM

hoping to get my tomatoes planted this weekend, I prepped the beds week before last and will go thru again with a spade before planting.
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/13/24 05:00 PM

Off to a good start! Garlic, onions, shallots, lettuce, carrots, sugar snap peas, swiss chard along with the herbs that held over the winter all looking good out in the garden. Seedlings are getting some time outside on nice days and looking good.

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Posted By: Chickenman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/24 09:37 AM

None of my jumbo tamed jalapenos started. Not one. Pretty bummed. Almost everything else has been transplanted or started though. Just in time for a potential frost tomorrow hammer

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Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/24 06:28 PM

we got tomatoes, beets and turnips in this past weekend, then almost an inch of rain ... (yeah, I know late getting beets & turnips)
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/18/24 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by Chickenman
None of my jumbo tamed jalapenos started. Not one. Pretty bummed. Almost everything else has been transplanted or started though. Just in time for a potential frost tomorrow hammer

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Looking good! Man, you are right on that frost line for tonight. farmer
Posted By: B Razorback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/25/24 03:38 PM

Alright need some help here! Wife and I just bought our first house and yesterday I went and bought a raised garden bed. We rented a house before so I only grew out of pots, but I'm trying to figure out how much/what kind of soil/compost to get to put in there. Everything I've read has said to layer the compost and soil but I trust the THFers more than google. The bed is 71" long, 31" wide and is 16" deep. Plan to have 2 jalepeno plants, 1 poblano and one bell pepper on one side and I'm trying to figure out what to plant on the other half. I appreciate the input!
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/24 04:50 PM

sounds similar in size to our raised bed (4' x 8' x 14") ... this year we put in 5 tomato plants of various types, along with some beets. previously we would put in 5-6 tomato plants, 1 jalapeno and 1 hot banana pepper. we tried okra & peas but not really enough space to have those to produce enough to be worthwhile. At least with tomatoes, they produce pretty good up thru mid/late June until the temperatures get to hot to produce, but we leave the plants and they start producing again by mid/late Sept. thru the first freeze.
Posted By: B Razorback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/24 05:07 PM

Thanks PMK! Curious, what kind of soil did you fill your raised bed with? Just regular raised garden bed soil?
Posted By: rolyat.nosaj

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/24 07:29 PM

If my calculations are correct then you need 0.75 cubic yards of soil. I would go ahead and get 1 cubic yard delivered to your house from a nearby garden center. They can dump it wherever you want as long as they can backup to it. Then use a shovel and a wheel barrel.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/26/24 08:06 PM

I didn't really over think it when I filled my beds. A little of this and a little of that. The last 3yrs I have just yanked the old plants out in spring. Top it off with compost and rake it smooth and it's worked great.
Posted By: Triplesnake

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/24 05:54 PM

My beds are more like a terrace since my yard is on a slope, so over time I've just amended the native soil with various composts and tilling in the mulch at the end of the growing season. Sounds a lot like what Derek is doing. I saw this video on youtube from a channel I like that talks bout this very thing...
Posted By: PMK

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/24 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by B Razorback
Thanks PMK! Curious, what kind of soil did you fill your raised bed with? Just regular raised garden bed soil?

we live on solid limestone (literally) and when we put in our garden, I used landscape timbers stacked up to form our beds but laid down a garden cloth on the bottom to prevent any native weeds coming up from the bottom. I went to Gardenville (local garden & landscaping products) and got a yard or so of their garden soil blend, shoveled into my forms, watered down and them topped off again for depth. When we were ready to plant, I used a spade to loosen up the soil and planted the plants.

each year afterwards, I till up with a spade and just get a few bags of garden soil & compost from Gardenville or Home Depot. When we are ready to plant, dig a hole and line it with the new garden soil, place plant and fill in around with the new garden soil. We usually let the plants get established a few weeks and then put out some 13-13-13 around each plant ... just be cautious not to use to much
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/24 09:32 PM

I was talking to a tomato grower last week at a garden expo. He was telling me about the lineup of tomato's called Rodeo. I grow Tycoon just about every year and it's part of the rodeo winners. Never knew that. He said you just about can't go wrong with any of them. He said the Bobcat is a really good one. This years winner was Rambler Hybrid.

https://www.rainbowgardens.biz/news-events/rodeo-tomatoes-tomato-determinate-indeterminate-veggies/
Posted By: Triplesnake

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/24 10:29 PM

One of the determinate varieties I'm growing this year is Red Snapper, the rodeo winner from 2020. I got the seeds from Hoss Tools. I've never grown them before, so I'm excited to see how they do.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/27/24 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
I was talking to a tomato grower last week at a garden expo. He was telling me about the lineup of tomato's called Rodeo. I grow Tycoon just about every year and it's part of the rodeo winners. Never knew that. He said you just about can't go wrong with any of them. He said the Bobcat is a really good one. This years winner was Rambler Hybrid.

https://www.rainbowgardens.biz/news-events/rodeo-tomatoes-tomato-determinate-indeterminate-veggies/


I grew a Phoenix a few years ago that's on the list. It was awesome but I've never seen it again. Got it at HEB and makes sense they are selling some rodeos since they are based in San Antonio. They had the Bobcat earlier this year and I passed on it because I had never heard of it. Went back after to the guy last week and they were gone. Seen others on the list at HEB in the past. Going to pick a few off the list and source some seed and try them out.
Posted By: Triplesnake

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/24 12:44 AM

HEB has had some good plants this year. I bought my two Serrano plants there. They had some tomatoes when I was there today that looked good, but I didn't stop to see what they were since my garden spots are all full.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/24 01:25 AM

I didn't start a Serrano this year. Years past Hot Rod Serrano has been a big producer and great flavor.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/24 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by PMK
Originally Posted by B Razorback
Thanks PMK! Curious, what kind of soil did you fill your raised bed with? Just regular raised garden bed soil?

we live on solid limestone (literally) and when we put in our garden, I used landscape timbers stacked up to form our beds but laid down a garden cloth on the bottom to prevent any native weeds coming up from the bottom. I went to Gardenville (local garden & landscaping products) and got a yard or so of their garden soil blend, shoveled into my forms, watered down and them topped off again for depth. When we were ready to plant, I used a spade to loosen up the soil and planted the plants.

each year afterwards, I till up with a spade and just get a few bags of garden soil & compost from Gardenville or Home Depot. When we are ready to plant, dig a hole and line it with the new garden soil, place plant and fill in around with the new garden soil. We usually let the plants get established a few weeks and then put out some 13-13-13 around each plant ... just be cautious not to use to much


I'm a big fan of the 13-13-13 with gardening and lawn care. One difference I do is when I top off my beds I sprinkle in T13 and rake it smooth/level best I can then plant. No wrong way to do it unless you apply to much like you mentioned.
Posted By: Triplesnake

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/28/24 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
I didn't start a Serrano this year. Years past Hot Rod Serrano has been a big producer and great flavor.


Gotta have some serranos. Pico de Gallo and venison tacos are a staple around here!
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/24 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Triplesnake
Originally Posted by Derek
I didn't start a Serrano this year. Years past Hot Rod Serrano has been a big producer and great flavor.


Gotta have some serranos. Pico de Gallo and venison tacos are a staple around here!


You guilt tripped me and I had to go get one
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Posted By: B Razorback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/24 03:02 PM

What would y'all classify as too much? I have a bag of 13-13-13 sitting in the garage. Starting the garden next week so may need help posting some pics!
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/29/24 06:39 PM

You can use a fert calculator and weigh it out if you want. I just eyeball it salt bae it. Typically after I rake in some granular I switch to a water soluble 20-20-20 since I have a lot of it. Say if your garden was 100sq feet and you wanted to give it o.5lbs of NPK that would be 0.4lbs of weighed out T13 granular. Round it up to 1/2lb of actual product.

http://agebb.missouri.edu/fertcalc/
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/24 02:24 AM

Anybody use banana liquid fertilizer, home made brew, in their garden for tomatoes, cucumbers, peppers . For added potassium.
Posted By: Ol Thumper

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/24 04:36 AM

Anybody have the 411 on where to find giant jalapeño plants this year? I can’t seem to find any and my bungholeo’s begging for more punishment this year roflmao
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/24 10:22 AM

I'm guessing since there's a pepper shortage then there's a pepper plant shortage too.
Posted By: Triplesnake

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/24 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Triplesnake
Originally Posted by Derek
I didn't start a Serrano this year. Years past Hot Rod Serrano has been a big producer and great flavor.


Gotta have some serranos. Pico de Gallo and venison tacos are a staple around here!


You guilt tripped me and I had to go get one
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Good! Serranos make people happy. I feel like I accomplished something, LOL.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/30/24 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by Ol Thumper
Anybody have the 411 on where to find giant jalapeño plants this year? I can’t seem to find any and my bungholeo’s begging for more punishment this year roflmao


Walmart had Mammoth jalapeño plants today
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 03/31/24 10:59 AM

I got Fresno Chilis because there were no jalapenos locally.
Posted By: B Razorback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/01/24 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by Ol Thumper
Anybody have the 411 on where to find giant jalapeño plants this year? I can’t seem to find any and my bungholeo’s begging for more punishment this year roflmao

Found some yesterday at the Tractor Supply in Princeton. There were a couple out there
Posted By: Ol Thumper

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/24 05:21 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Ol Thumper
Anybody have the 411 on where to find giant jalapeño plants this year? I can’t seem to find any and my bungholeo’s begging for more punishment this year roflmao


Walmart had Mammoth jalapeño plants today


I appreciate the heads up, I found some at Walmart today up I also planted some Ghost, Habanero, Yellow Fevers and Reapers today just to see how they turn out. If anyone would like to try some let me know,,
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/24 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Ol Thumper
Anybody have the 411 on where to find giant jalapeño plants this year? I can’t seem to find any and my bungholeo’s begging for more punishment this year roflmao

i bought some megatron jalapeno plants at atwoods. there red dirt plants are 99 cents each. they are the small ones but look good
Posted By: jlsbassman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/24 11:19 PM

My wife is trying to keep our garden organic, what kind of fertilizer do you all use to keep it organic?
Posted By: Jimbo1

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/07/24 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by jlsbassman
My wife is trying to keep our garden organic, what kind of fertilizer do you all use to keep it organic?

Get you some Zoo Poo.
Posted By: jlsbassman

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/24 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by Jimbo1
Originally Posted by jlsbassman
My wife is trying to keep our garden organic, what kind of fertilizer do you all use to keep it organic?

Get you some Zoo Poo.

I used a compost from living earth but seems like I need some kind of boost. I used to use miracle grow and had good production but now my plants don’t produce as much and are a little on the yellow side. I feel they need more nitrogen.
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/24 02:06 AM

I have been using crushed egg shells and banana peels liquid on the cucs, tomatoes, peppers seems to be doing good.
Posted By: B Razorback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/24 06:22 PM

Is there anything y'all do to increase harvest volume with pepper plants? We just got 2 jalepeno, a poblano and a bell pepper put in the garden. Needing to know if y'all have any tricks to getting a better harvest. I've seen some videos saying that cutting the top part off and the leaves towards the bottom helps.
Posted By: Triplesnake

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/24 09:05 PM

I'm going to increase my fertilizing routine this year to increase my peppery harvests. More nitrogen early to get good vegetative growth and them more of a bloom booster type once the flowers really start to set. I'm also using more bone meal and fish fertilizer too. There is debate about topping the plants. I does encourage them to be more bushy in my experience, but not sure if it ups total yield. I have one Poblano that got topped by a bug or something, so I'll keep better track of how its yield compares to the others of the same type. I also have started to focus on selecting varieties that are known for high yields. Bell peppers are not.
Posted By: B Razorback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/08/24 09:12 PM

I added some 13-13-13 into the garden bed while mixing the soil, but that's about it. Trust me I know bell peppers are not high yield plants but per my better half, we had to put at least one in there trout
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/24 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by B Razorback
Is there anything y'all do to increase harvest volume with pepper plants? We just got 2 jalepeno, a poblano and a bell pepper put in the garden. Needing to know if y'all have any tricks to getting a better harvest. I've seen some videos saying that cutting the top part off and the leaves towards the bottom helps.

A trick I learned for tomatoes from my grandfather works on peppers too. Go out and shake them a little every day. If you get a branch with no/little flowers, break it without breaking it off. The plant will "try" to reproduce more prolifically.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/09/24 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Triplesnake
I'm going to increase my fertilizing routine this year to increase my peppery harvests. More nitrogen early to get good vegetative growth and them more of a bloom booster type once the flowers really start to set. I'm also using more bone meal and fish fertilizer too. There is debate about topping the plants. I does encourage them to be more bushy in my experience, but not sure if it ups total yield. I have one Poblano that got topped by a bug or something, so I'll keep better track of how its yield compares to the others of the same type. I also have started to focus on selecting varieties that are known for high yields. Bell peppers are not.


I'm a fan of topping them. I came upon it by accident years ago when I accidentally crushed a habanero plant. It was about a foot tall and I crushed it to the ground. I basically just trimmed it to the ground and just waited to see what happened. It came back gang busters and put off a ton of shoots and was my best producing plant that year so now I do it to all of them when they have 3 sets of true leaves.

As far as bells go. I've never had great production with store bought varieties. If you start via seeds try King Arthur. It produces great for me.
Posted By: B Razorback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/24 09:38 PM

I need some ideas on what to plant to fill the rest of this raised bed with. I got two mammoth japs, poblano and a bell pepper. Wife wants to plant carrots but I read it's too late to start those. I haven't figured out how to post a picture here but if someone wants to PM their # I'll send you the picture so y'all can get an idea of what surface area I have left. We don't like red tomatoes but do enjoy green salsa (are tomatillos worth it?)
Posted By: Triplesnake

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/24 10:23 PM

Yeah, too late on carrots I think. I've only tried tomatillos a couple of times and apparently don't have those figured out yet. How about a golden cherry tomato, or a cucumber? Maybe some cilantro to go in your salsa, or other herbs you like to cook with. I've learned some stuff by just browsing home depot and buying something on a whim too. Just brainstorming.
ETA - if you want to stick with peppers to make salsa with then maybe serrano or cayenne peppers.
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/11/24 10:58 PM

I've been meaning to try and grow tomatillos and never do. Feed store had some nice tomatillo plants a week or so ago and I didn't buy one. Like Snake mentioned there are lots of options. See if the box store or feed store has anything that strikes your fancy. Cukes, squash, okra, eggplant and so on.

There is a thread at the top in the test forum that explains how to post pics. If you want to do some testing in there I can help you learn how to post pics.

https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/forums/24/1/test-help-forum
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/24 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Derek
I'm a fan of topping them. I came upon it by accident years ago when I accidentally crushed a habanero plant. It was about a foot tall and I crushed it to the ground.

Similar to my experience posted above. I selectively break (not off) branches.

Originally Posted by B Razorback
I need some ideas on what to plant to fill the rest of this raised bed with. I got two mammoth japs, poblano and a bell pepper. Wife wants to plant carrots but I read it's too late to start those. I haven't figured out how to post a picture here but if someone wants to PM their # I'll send you the picture so y'all can get an idea of what surface area I have left. We don't like red tomatoes but do enjoy green salsa (are tomatillos worth it?)


Carrots from seed would be half way done by now, radishes and lettuce too. I planted onions when I used to plant carrots (early February) and they're over a foot tall.

Potatoes are easy and can be grown nearly all year in TX.
Posted By: B Razorback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/12/24 09:09 PM

Maybe I'll be the guinea pig this year for tomatillos. I'm going drive around tomorrow and see if I can find two (read you have to get two so they can cross pollinate)
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/13/24 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by B Razorback
Maybe I'll be the guinea pig this year for tomatillos. I'm going drive around tomorrow and see if I can find two (read you have to get two so they can cross pollinate)


Yeah you will need 2 for sure to cross. I've heard of people planting 2 plants in the same bucket or garden hole with good results. I might check the feed store tomorrow and join the tomatillo train with you if they have any. I'd have to grow them in pots and see how it goes.
Posted By: B Razorback

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/15/24 03:22 PM

Well Derek little update for you. I went to 3 different feed stores and 2 different nurseries. Last nursery told me that they've been trying to get their hands on some but no one has them. Ended up with a little Italian and another poblano
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/17/24 01:52 AM

Originally Posted by Triplesnake
I'm going to increase my fertilizing routine this year to increase my peppery harvests. More nitrogen early to get good vegetative growth and them more of a bloom booster type once the flowers really start to set. I'm also using more bone meal and fish fertilizer too. There is debate about topping the plants. I does encourage them to be more bushy in my experience, but not sure if it ups total yield. I have one Poblano that got topped by a bug or something, so I'll keep better track of how its yield compares to the others of the same type. I also have started to focus on selecting varieties that are known for high yields. Bell peppers are not.


Topped this Serrano Sunday. I’m not the best picture taker and I should have gotten a before pic, but you can already see the nodes going crazy.
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Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/20/24 02:04 AM

what would yall, "derek" recommend to put on a black gumbo garden plot to loosen the soil? ive been putting compost on it every year for 18 yrs and by winter, early spring its like i havent done anything. i think i need to add some kinda other soil but not sure what. plot is app. 25' x 50' located near forney. thanks.
Posted By: Triplesnake

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/24 01:31 AM

Let me tell you a story about a tomato plant... Last fall I had a volunteer tomato sprout in a spot where I hadn't grown anything that year and was between two of my tomato beds. I left it there to see what it would do. It must be something with some vigor to sprout after the hot dry summer we had. It could be anything. It was close to where we had purple cherokee, celebrity, and sweet 100. It grew slowly into the winter but kept on being there since we had a pretty mild winter. Up until the big freeze, that is. When I was getting things ready for the cold snap, I decided to just dig up the tomato and put it into a pot and set it in the garage with some of my other plants. It was in the cold garage for a week or more while the weather warmed up. It wasn't a very happy plant, but kept on being there. I kept in the sun when I could and then moved it into my little green house in about Feb. You can see it in the picture I posed back on 2-15. It really started to thrive and was well ready to go back into the ground when we put in the rest of the tomato seedlings. I still had no idea what kind of tomato this was. Since it had several months of age ahead of my other seedlings it took oof once I put back where it sprouted. It has turned it a monster of a plant, already topping the height of my fence. My wife decided it was a girl and has now named it Audrey. Audrey has now revealed what she has in store for us. She is a cherry tomato and is already busting out with with blooms and clusters of fruit!
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Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/22/24 11:53 AM

Onions!

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/24 01:31 AM

Originally Posted by Poppa
what would yall, "derek" recommend to put on a black gumbo garden plot to loosen the soil? ive been putting compost on it every year for 18 yrs and by winter, early spring its like i havent done anything. i think i need to add some kinda other soil but not sure what. plot is app. 25' x 50' located near forney. thanks.


I wouldn't over think it too much, I'm basically the same area as you and farmers here have been tilling in organic matter for the past few centuries and it's still the same black garbage gumbo clay. How is your garden doing, is it producing to your liking? That's first. If yes, then keep rocking on. If no you might go through the season and get a soil test next winter/spring, I'm betting you're producing well and soil structure sucks, it is what it is. Rock on you're good
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/24 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by Triplesnake
Let me tell you a story about a tomato plant... Last fall I had a volunteer tomato sprout in a spot where I hadn't grown anything that year and was between two of my tomato beds. I left it there to see what it would do. It must be something with some vigor to sprout after the hot dry summer we had. It could be anything. It was close to where we had purple cherokee, celebrity, and sweet 100. It grew slowly into the winter but kept on being there since we had a pretty mild winter. Up until the big freeze, that is. When I was getting things ready for the cold snap, I decided to just dig up the tomato and put it into a pot and set it in the garage with some of my other plants. It was in the cold garage for a week or more while the weather warmed up. It wasn't a very happy plant, but kept on being there. I kept in the sun when I could and then moved it into my little green house in about Feb. You can see it in the picture I posed back on 2-15. It really started to thrive and was well ready to go back into the ground when we put in the rest of the tomato seedlings. I still had no idea what kind of tomato this was. Since it had several months of age ahead of my other seedlings it took oof once I put back where it sprouted. It has turned it a monster of a plant, already topping the height of my fence. My wife decided it was a girl and has now named it Audrey. Audrey has now revealed what she has in store for us. She is a cherry tomato and is already busting out with with blooms and clusters of fruit!
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Awesome! Seeing what pops up overwinter is always a nice hidden treasure imo. Naming plants is an extra bonus/illness and I love it lol!
Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/24 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by GasGuzzler
Onions!

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LFG Gas! Onions are on point and looking great! Those 1015Y's?
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/24 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by GasGuzzler
Onions!

LFG Gas! Onions are on point and looking great! Those 1015Y's?

1015Y Texas Super Sweet
Posted By: Poppa

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/24/24 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by Poppa
what would yall, "derek" recommend to put on a black gumbo garden plot to loosen the soil? ive been putting compost on it every year for 18 yrs and by winter, early spring its like i havent done anything. i think i need to add some kinda other soil but not sure what. plot is app. 25' x 50' located near forney. thanks.


I wouldn't over think it too much, I'm basically the same area as you and farmers here have been tilling in organic matter for the past few centuries and it's still the same black garbage gumbo clay. How is your garden doing, is it producing to your liking? That's first. If yes, then keep rocking on. If no you might go through the season and get a soil test next winter/spring, I'm betting you're producing well and soil structure sucks, it is what it is. Rock on you're good

thanks. kinda what i thought.

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Posted By: Derek

Re: THF Gardening Thread - 04/25/24 03:11 AM

Originally Posted by GasGuzzler
Originally Posted by Derek
Originally Posted by GasGuzzler
Onions!

LFG Gas! Onions are on point and looking great! Those 1015Y's?

1015Y Texas Super Sweet


Nice. My TX Ledge are putting on some size right now.

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