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Coyotes
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01/01/21 10:11 PM
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Dave Davidson
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I’ve killed my share. So have others here. But, saw some hogs the other day. No rifle with me. All at once, a coyote ran in, grabbed a young one and left before the sow could react.
Then I realized that the song dog was about the only natural predator on Porky. I’ll never shoot another one.
Without a sense of urgency, nothing ever happens.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley, Rancher Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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Re: Coyotes
[Re: Dave Davidson]
#8111313
01/01/21 10:42 PM
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Blank
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All comes down to your location and situation. Many studies on this. Hogs kill a lot more newborn fawns than coyotes, but not adults. Coyotes will kill any they can, be it young or old, but not as many as the hogs. there's LOTS more hogs too. Are you gonna utilize the hide from the coyote? If not, then let it be.
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Re: Coyotes
[Re: Dave Davidson]
#8111316
01/01/21 10:43 PM
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Texas452
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I believe the upswing in the coyote population is because of the wild hog population our fawn crops have been decimated by coyotes I had a trapper come in last year and in made a huge difference in our fawn crop survival we were seeing only 1 maybe 2 fawns/year make it to hunting season opener 2020 we had a bunch of fawns survive We shoot every coyote and hog we see plus we trap hogs too I hate coyotes
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Re: Coyotes
[Re: Dave Davidson]
#8111333
01/01/21 10:57 PM
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MWTX270
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NO hog or coyote gets a pass on my place. We are overrun with both. This is the first deer season, I have not seen a coyote. Have killed 5 hogs though.
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Re: Coyotes
[Re: Dave Davidson]
#8111353
01/01/21 11:12 PM
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1860.colt
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been @ OSBWMA on archery deer/hog hunts & seen yotes carrying off little piglets... Yotes got a pass over hogs... Got some interesting views on it on other posts... As in one post . " All comes down to your location and situation."
i'm postaddic
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Re: Coyotes
[Re: Texas452]
#8111397
01/01/21 11:46 PM
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Posts: 8,466
freerange
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I believe the upswing in the coyote population is because of the wild hog population our fawn crops have been decimated by coyotes I had a trapper come in last year and in made a huge difference in our fawn crop survival we were seeing only 1 maybe 2 fawns/year make it to hunting season opener 2020 we had a bunch of fawns survive We shoot every coyote and hog we see plus we trap hogs too I hate coyotes Texas, im confused. Are you saying the coyotes or the hogs have hurt your fawns? Did the trapper get coyotes or hogs?
At some point in life its time to quit chasing the pot of gold and just enjoy the rainbow. FR Keep your gratitude higher than your expectations. RWH
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Re: Coyotes
[Re: freerange]
#8111414
01/02/21 12:11 AM
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Texas452
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Trapper caught coyotes it made a huge difference in our fawn survival I believe with wild hogs having piglets all year long give coyotes more to eat helping the coyote population to explode The first thing the trapper ask me was do you have many squirrels I told very few he said you have a coyote problem We even have a lot more squirrels this year after he trapped all spring and summer The fawn crop was the best I’ve seen since I bought the ranch in 2016
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Re: Coyotes
[Re: Dave Davidson]
#8111440
01/02/21 12:32 AM
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gusick
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Do coyotes have a preference between deer and pigs? I've never lived around pigs, so I've never thought about it. Curious.
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Re: Coyotes
[Re: Texas452]
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01/02/21 01:44 AM
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freerange
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Trapper caught coyotes it made a huge difference in our fawn survival I believe with wild hogs having piglets all year long give coyotes more to eat helping the coyote population to explode The first thing the trapper ask me was do you have many squirrels I told very few he said you have a coyote problem We even have a lot more squirrels this year after he trapped all spring and summer The fawn crop was the best I’ve seen since I bought the ranch in 2016 Thanks for clarifying Texas. I noticed you were pretty new on here and I hadnt noticed your posts before. Im always looking to learn and I like to figure out who the teachers are and who the students are.
At some point in life its time to quit chasing the pot of gold and just enjoy the rainbow. FR Keep your gratitude higher than your expectations. RWH
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Re: Coyotes
[Re: Dave Davidson]
#8111786
01/02/21 06:04 AM
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Spike Buck
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Had a dear old rancher friend in Leon County that saw the same thing you did. He also started giving coyotes a pass also. R
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Re: Coyotes
[Re: MWTX270]
#8111842
01/02/21 12:31 PM
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BbarVRanch
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NO hog or coyote gets a pass on my place. This is the correct answer in a large pool of misconception.
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Re: Coyotes
[Re: BbarVRanch]
#8111853
01/02/21 12:58 PM
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splash556
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NO hog or coyote gets a pass on my place. This is the correct answer in a large pool of misconception. ^^^^^ I agree with this. Hard to keep the population down on either of these predators for any length of time.
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Re: Coyotes
[Re: Dave Davidson]
#8111859
01/02/21 01:08 PM
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don k
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$2000 meal for a coyote. You think I give the mangy bast*rds a pass?
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Re: Coyotes
[Re: Blank]
#8111866
01/02/21 01:19 PM
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BbarVRanch
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Are you gonna utilize the hide from the coyote? If not, then let it be. Fantastic! How much $$ are you giving for Texas coyote hides? How many you want?
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Re: Coyotes
[Re: Dave Davidson]
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01/02/21 01:54 PM
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TexFlip
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We have coyotes for the first time in almost 30 years. I promised my boy a hide so if I see one, it's dead. Hogs are shot on sight.
Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.
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Re: Coyotes
[Re: Dave Davidson]
#8111888
01/02/21 02:01 PM
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don k
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I utilized the two I caught last month for food for the buzzards. Waste not want not.
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Re: Coyotes
[Re: Dave Davidson]
#8111900
01/02/21 02:15 PM
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Hudbone
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I prefer shooting hogs over coyotes. Except fhose in traps, I have never shot a bobcat. Hogs eat and get into everything. Coyotes can help to force a balance which man can't provide and never will. Plain & simple, no coyotes means there is little to check the resident rodent population. Pick your poison.
If interested in increasing fawn survival, consider knocking the beJesus out of coyotes in the spring. Putting a dent in them at that time will prove beneficial.
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Re: Coyotes
[Re: don k]
#8111919
01/02/21 02:32 PM
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Biscuit
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$2000 meal for a coyote. You think I give the mangy bast*rds a pass? Good point sir
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Re: Coyotes
[Re: Dave Davidson]
#8112263
01/02/21 06:27 PM
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colt45-90
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wow, giving coyotes a pass , coyotes are so thick now n S.W. Ks. they are decimating the pheasant population
Last edited by colt45; 01/02/21 06:54 PM.
hold on Newt, we got a runaway
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Re: Coyotes
[Re: Dave Davidson]
#8112294
01/02/21 07:03 PM
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TCM3
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Do not forget to entertain strangers, For by so doing some have unwittingly entertained angels Hebrews 13:2 (R-TX)
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Re: Coyotes
[Re: Dave Davidson]
#8112305
01/02/21 07:14 PM
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J.G.
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The reason my rifle and range finder are beside me in my truck, in my Kawasaki Mule, in my tractor, while working in the shop, and inside the house is if I see a hog or coyote, either one is getting shot. No passes, ever.
It is rare to see deer in the area.
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Re: Coyotes
[Re: Dave Davidson]
#8112317
01/02/21 07:28 PM
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don k
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You like this picture coyote lovers?
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Re: Coyotes
[Re: Dave Davidson]
#8112343
01/02/21 07:59 PM
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Posts: 172
Lalo
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The OP observed a coyote snatch a piglet. I was interested in that, because in my bird dog's first full season, he retrieved three feral piglets. I have heard of others with similar experiences. A guy in South TX showed me a video of his bird dog retrieving a feral pig piglet. And someone on THF, I think it was Smokey Bear, posted pics of his dog retrieving a piglet. All of this puzzled me. My dog made it look easy. It seems fairly easy for a dog to catch a piglet without the mother intervening. It made me wonder: Why don't we hear more about coyotes killing piglets? Maybe it happens more often than we know.
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Re: Coyotes
[Re: BbarVRanch]
#8112356
01/02/21 08:11 PM
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Lalo
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Thank you for sharing that link. Informative. But where does it prove your point? "Overall, the predatory impact of coyotes on feral hogs is unknown." For the record, I don't have strong feelings on whether we should be concentrating on killing hogs, coyotes, or both.
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