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Private Land for Border Wall #8028929 10/29/20 02:45 PM
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Trump admin preparing to seize private land for border wall: report
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The White House has begun preparations to seize private land so that construction of the border wall can continue.

A pair of officials within the Trump administration told NBC News that Jared Kushner will meet with military and administration officials to discuss next steps in acquiring the private land.

The officials also told the news network that counsel from the Department of Defense and the Department of Justice had already prepared letters of rights of entry to notify the landowners that government officials will be accessing their property to appraise the land, test the soil and conduct land surveys.

https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...eize-private-land-for-border-wall-report

Re: Private Land for Border Wall [Re: ndhunter] #8028935 10/29/20 02:49 PM
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No difference than acquiring land to build a lake or expand a highway.

Re: Private Land for Border Wall [Re: ndhunter] #8028944 10/29/20 02:56 PM
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We got a request to bid on it, we declined, not our part of the world. This isnt new.


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Re: Private Land for Border Wall [Re: ndhunter] #8028949 10/29/20 03:00 PM
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My dads land is on the Rio Grande he would be happy to sale.

Re: Private Land for Border Wall [Re: S.A. hunter] #8029026 10/29/20 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by S.A. hunter
My dads land is on the Rio Grande he would be happy to sale.

One of the first places we looked at when looking for our place was 700 acres on the river. I was head over heels for it, and it was $350 an acre lol... thank the lord my dad was wiser!


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Re: Private Land for Border Wall [Re: redchevy] #8029036 10/29/20 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by redchevy
Originally Posted by S.A. hunter
My dads land is on the Rio Grande he would be happy to sale.

One of the first places we looked at when looking for our place was 700 acres on the river. I was head over heels for it, and it was $350 an acre lol... thank the lord my dad was wiser!


Yall should of done it! Some nice deer out there.

Re: Private Land for Border Wall [Re: RedRanger] #8029047 10/29/20 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RedRanger
No difference than acquiring land to build a lake or expand a highway.


Or a stadium.....


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Re: Private Land for Border Wall [Re: ndhunter] #8029051 10/29/20 04:29 PM
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I'm sure the landowners will be compensated for their land. It can't be seized without compensation.

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Re: Private Land for Border Wall [Re: pegasaurus] #8029060 10/29/20 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by pegasaurus
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No difference than acquiring land to build a lake or expand a highway.


Or a stadium.....



Beat me to it. Lands been stolen for a lot worse at least this is actually a public project

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or a lake so Dallas democrats can water their drought intolerant lawns. Build the wall on the Mexican side.


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A little different if they use Declaration of Taking

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Typically in eminent domain cases, the government agrees upon a price for the land before seizing it, but the Trump administration has yet to settle on a price.

However, the White House could also try to act under the Declaration of Taking Act in federal court in Texas, NBC reports.

The law would allow the administration to move through the process of acquiring the land more quickly, and the negotiations between the government and the landowners would take place after the land had been transferred to the government.

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I'd donate it if they were running across my ranch.


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Re: Private Land for Border Wall [Re: S.A. hunter] #8029126 10/29/20 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by S.A. hunter
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My dads land is on the Rio Grande he would be happy to sale.

One of the first places we looked at when looking for our place was 700 acres on the river. I was head over heels for it, and it was $350 an acre lol... thank the lord my dad was wiser!


Yall should of done it! Some nice deer out there.

Land right on the river is inside the tick quarantine area, can’t bring deer out of there I believe.



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Originally Posted by ndhunter
A little different if they use Declaration of Taking

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Typically in eminent domain cases, the government agrees upon a price for the land before seizing it, but the Trump administration has yet to settle on a price.

However, the White House could also try to act under the Declaration of Taking Act in federal court in Texas, NBC reports.

The law would allow the administration to move through the process of acquiring the land more quickly, and the negotiations between the government and the landowners would take place after the land had been transferred to the government.



Lots of eminent domain cases go the same way. Many road/utility etc projects are built and working before the final court cases are settled. Once the commissioner hearing is over and the money has been put up the govt entity can take possession and begin the project.


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Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
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My dads land is on the Rio Grande he would be happy to sale.

One of the first places we looked at when looking for our place was 700 acres on the river. I was head over heels for it, and it was $350 an acre lol... thank the lord my dad was wiser!


Yall should of done it! Some nice deer out there.

Land right on the river is inside the tick quarantine area, can’t bring deer out of there I believe.

Thats in the laredo area I believe. You can but they have to be skinned.

Re: Private Land for Border Wall [Re: reeltexan] #8029136 10/29/20 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by reeltexan

I'd donate it if they were running across my ranch.

My thoughts as well. Be well worth it to no longer deal with smugglers and thefts, etc


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Re: Private Land for Border Wall [Re: pegasaurus] #8029151 10/29/20 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by pegasaurus
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No difference than acquiring land to build a lake or expand a highway.


Or a stadium.....


Or a bullet train track


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Or a nascar track. I saw a few lose their place for pennies while in HS.


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Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Or a nascar track. I saw a few lose their place for pennies while in HS.

Ive been working in eminent domain for for 11 years and still never seen anyone loose their place for penies. Lots of people dont want to sell and lots of people think since the GOVT is "TAKING" it they should get more than its worth, but the scenario you describe i have personally never come across.


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Jerry world was built using it

I think he got that stadium built right before the law got changed

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I hate eminent domain (especially the way it’s used today). Yes, the landowners will be compensated, but at or around market value, which I think sucks. There should be a provision for some percentage of above market value for the hassle of your land being seized. It’s theft for the “greater good” and, out of principle, I think it’s wrong.

On the other hand, I’m sure some landowners would be happy to sell some of it, if it keeps illegals out. But in general, out of principle, I hate eminent domain. And landowners should be compensated above market value (red heavy and I disagreed on this years ago, but I still believe that).


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Originally Posted by redchevy
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Or a nascar track. I saw a few lose their place for pennies while in HS.

Ive been working in eminent domain for for 11 years and still never seen anyone loose their place for penies. Lots of people dont want to sell and lots of people think since the GOVT is "TAKING" it they should get more than its worth, but the scenario you describe i have personally never come across.


When ya don’t want to sell, it’s pennies.


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Originally Posted by reeltexan

I'd donate it if they were running across my ranch.


Yep me too.

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Originally Posted by pegasaurus
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No difference than acquiring land to build a lake or expand a highway.


Or a stadium.....



Or a worthless Rail Road, nobody wants, except foreign investors...…….
And of course, that Texas Traitor Rick Perry...……….

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Originally Posted by Bullfrog
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No difference than acquiring land to build a lake or expand a highway.


Or a stadium.....


Or a bullet train track


Yep

I think they all finish that way, there are most likely some that will not sale.

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