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New Infantry Squad Vehicle
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10/28/20 07:46 PM
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Combat Infantryman, the ultimate hunter where the prey shoots back. _____________"Illegitimus non carborundum est"_______________
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Re: New Infantry Squad Vehicle
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10/28/20 07:55 PM
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Nice! 650-vehicle deal worth up to $214.3 million= that's $329,692 per vehicle.
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Re: New Infantry Squad Vehicle
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10/28/20 08:37 PM
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Nice! 650-vehicle deal worth up to $214.3 million= that's $329,692 per vehicle. That is a ridiculous per vehicle cost if there is no ballistic protection. I could understand it at half the price
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Re: New Infantry Squad Vehicle
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10/28/20 08:37 PM
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Re: New Infantry Squad Vehicle
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10/28/20 08:49 PM
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Re: New Infantry Squad Vehicle
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10/28/20 09:37 PM
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I guess that would be OK for places where you aren't getting shot at.
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Re: New Infantry Squad Vehicle
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10/29/20 12:34 AM
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It's a limited number of vehicles for 'Forcible Entry Operations' that means mostly Special Ops and Airborne type seize and hold missions.
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Re: New Infantry Squad Vehicle
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10/29/20 12:42 AM
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A four door Silverado 2500 4WD would do just as good for way the hell less money.
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Re: New Infantry Squad Vehicle
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#8028297
10/29/20 12:42 AM
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Nice! 650-vehicle deal worth up to $214.3 million= that's $329,692 per vehicle. That is a ridiculous per vehicle cost if there is no ballistic protection. I could understand it at half the price It might be, but I bet itās got a lot of nifty features that arenāt cheap.
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Re: New Infantry Squad Vehicle
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10/29/20 12:43 AM
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A four door Silverado 2500 4WD would do just as good for way the hell less money. They were probably wanting something reliable.
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Re: New Infantry Squad Vehicle
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10/29/20 12:50 AM
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A four door Silverado 2500 4WD would do just as good for way the hell less money. They were probably wanting something reliable. My '09 is still running fine after 252 K. I guess that's not good enough, huh?
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Re: New Infantry Squad Vehicle
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10/29/20 12:56 AM
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"Our expeditionary ISV is a light and agile all-terrain troop carrier, which is intended to transport a nine-soldier infantry squad, moving throughout the battlefield," David Albritton, president of GM Defense told an audience today at a delivery ceremony.
The ISV, based on the Chevrolet Colorado ZR2, is designed to be air-droppable by C-130 Hercules or C-17 Globemaster aircraft, sling-loaded by a UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter or internally carried by CH-47 Chinook helicopter.
It features 35-inch tires, impact-absorbing suspension, electronic power steering, and antilock brakes, according to GM officials. The ISV also has a custom rollover protection system designed to provide overhead protection for the four soldiers in the back of the vehicle.
The ISV concept emerged in 2015 when Army officials at the Maneuver Warfare Conference at Fort Benning, Georgia, stressed that light infantry units needed an ultra-light combat vehicle for forced-entry operations.
GM Defense and Ricardo competed against teams from Flyer Defense LLC and Oshkosh Defense LLC, as well as SAIC and Polaris Inc., in the initial rapid-prototyping phase of the effort in 2019.
The ISV is the latest Army effort to equip troops with modernized battlefield transport. In 2015, the service selected Oshkosh to build the Joint Light Tactical Vehicle, a joint Army-Marine Corps program to replace the Cold War-era Humvee. But the Army has since slowed its fielding plan for JLTV as part of an effort to shave billions of dollars off of existing programs to fund future modernization efforts.
"This platform will be a game-changer for the infantry brigade combat teams ... and was designed to move across restricted terrain, allowing soldiers to close on an objective with less fatigue and greater readiness," said Michael Sprang, Project Manager for the Joint Program Office, Joint Light Tactical Vehicle.
The first four production In addition to the JLTV, Spring's office oversees other vehicle programs, such as the Humvee and the new ISV. ISV vehicles will go to 1st BCT, 82nd Airborne Division for further testing, Army officials have said.
GM is slated to deliver 649 ISVs to the Army by fiscal 2024. Before that happens, the Army will conduct an operational test and evaluation phase next year to assess the vehicle's "operational relevance and capability," Steve Herrick, product lead for Ground Mobility Vehicles in the Joint Program Office, JLTV.
If all goes well, the Army will equip 11 IBCTs with 59 ISVs each by fiscal 2024, Herrick said.
Combat Infantryman, the ultimate hunter where the prey shoots back. _____________"Illegitimus non carborundum est"_______________
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Re: New Infantry Squad Vehicle
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10/29/20 01:15 AM
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Just think of all of the money they saved by not having put in an air conditioner. They have some nifty videos of them driving around out in the dirt, dust everywhere, including inside. I hope they work well for the purpose they were made for, they look cool and stout.
"Man is still a hunter, still a simple searcher after meat..." Robert C. Ruark
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Re: New Infantry Squad Vehicle
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#8028346
10/29/20 01:20 AM
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I'd have sold them my Jeep Rubicon for only $310,000.
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Re: New Infantry Squad Vehicle
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10/29/20 01:21 AM
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I guess saying that there were times I was glad to just be able to squeeze into the back of a duce-and-a-half makes me sound like an old guy.
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Re: New Infantry Squad Vehicle
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#8028365
10/29/20 01:33 AM
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It should have suspended seats instead of just bolting them to the floor.
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Re: New Infantry Squad Vehicle
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#8028367
10/29/20 01:33 AM
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Thatās not gonna take an IED strike very well
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Re: New Infantry Squad Vehicle
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#8028399
10/29/20 01:53 AM
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Sneaky
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A four door Silverado 2500 4WD would do just as good for way the hell less money. They were probably wanting something reliable. My '09 is still running fine after 252 K. I guess that's not good enough, huh? One vehicle proving that the millions of others are reliable? No, itās absolutely not nearly good enough. Iād also wager good money you arenāt driving it like they will. Try again.
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Re: New Infantry Squad Vehicle
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10/29/20 02:04 AM
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A Chevrolet Colorado ZR2 ,Government Motors got a good deal on this one.
Combat Infantryman, the ultimate hunter where the prey shoots back. _____________"Illegitimus non carborundum est"_______________
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Re: New Infantry Squad Vehicle
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#8028424
10/29/20 02:13 AM
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Re: New Infantry Squad Vehicle
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#8028536
10/29/20 03:40 AM
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"Our expeditionary ISV is a light and agile all-terrain troop carrier, which is intended to transport a nine-soldier infantry squad, moving throughout the battlefield," David Albritton, president of GM Defense told an audience today at a delivery ceremony.
The ISV, based on the Chevrolet Colorado ZR2, is designed to be air-droppable by C-130 Hercules or C-17 Globemaster aircraft, sling-loaded by a UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter or internally carried by CH-47 Chinook helicopter.
It features 35-inch tires, impact-absorbing suspension, electronic power steering, and antilock brakes, according to GM officials. The ISV also has a custom rollover protection system designed to provide overhead protection for the four soldiers in the back of the vehicle.
The ISV concept emerged in 2015 when Army officials at the Maneuver Warfare Conference at Fort Benning, Georgia, stressed that light infantry units needed an ultra-light combat vehicle for forced-entry operations.
GM Defense and Ricardo competed against teams from Flyer Defense LLC and Oshkosh Defense LLC, as well as SAIC and Polaris Inc., in the initial rapid-prototyping phase of the effort in 2019.
The ISV is the latest Army effort to equip troops with modernized battlefield transport. In 2015, the service selected Oshkosh to build the Joint Light Tactical Vehicle, a joint Army-Marine Corps program to replace the Cold War-era Humvee. But the Army has since slowed its fielding plan for JLTV as part of an effort to shave billions of dollars off of existing programs to fund future modernization efforts.
"This platform will be a game-changer for the infantry brigade combat teams ... and was designed to move across restricted terrain, allowing soldiers to close on an objective with less fatigue and greater readiness," said Michael Sprang, Project Manager for the Joint Program Office, Joint Light Tactical Vehicle.
The first four production In addition to the JLTV, Spring's office oversees other vehicle programs, such as the Humvee and the new ISV. ISV vehicles will go to 1st BCT, 82nd Airborne Division for further testing, Army officials have said.
GM is slated to deliver 649 ISVs to the Army by fiscal 2024. Before that happens, the Army will conduct an operational test and evaluation phase next year to assess the vehicle's "operational relevance and capability," Steve Herrick, product lead for Ground Mobility Vehicles in the Joint Program Office, JLTV.
If all goes well, the Army will equip 11 IBCTs with 59 ISVs each by fiscal 2024, Herrick said. You really think they're dropping it without a chute? You can drop anything almost so this is a ridiculous statement. The only things they did were change the crew layout, strengthen the frame, change the suspension, and put a multipurpose cage/bar in it to help with roll-overs and also give something to strap to a helo. Again, how is this worth over $350k? I do completely agree with the resilience point. It needs to not break, start the first time, etc., and so that is the consolation I gave to paying $170k for a vehicle versus the $80k it should cost (and I thought that was a gift, apparently not)
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Re: New Infantry Squad Vehicle
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#8028829
10/29/20 01:38 PM
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Even a dirt farmer in a third world country can figure out how to build an explosive device to cut a hole in an MRAP and kill the passengers. Add to that, they have failed miserably to decrease the weight of a combat load for the infantryman, and the āreal worldā combat load I donāt think has ever been published but itās much worse. I think this will make a great patrol vehicle. It would be awesome to have a fast, agile vehicle with real off road capability to carry some of your [censored] around and make for easier and faster casevac.
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Re: New Infantry Squad Vehicle
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10/29/20 01:41 PM
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A four door Silverado 2500 4WD would do just as good for way the hell less money. They were probably wanting something reliable. My '09 is still running fine after 252 K. I guess that's not good enough, huh? One vehicle proving that the millions of others are reliable? No, itās absolutely not nearly good enough. Iād also wager good money you arenāt driving it like they will. Try again. Yes they will break it. They break everything. That is the nature of the beast.
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