texashuntingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
victorcaoh, gtmill6619, cpen13, Huntinkid, garey
72055 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
dogcatcher 110,797
bill oxner 91,416
SnakeWrangler 65,528
stxranchman 60,296
Gravytrain 46,950
RKHarm24 44,585
rifleman 44,461
Stub 43,931
Forum Statistics
Forums46
Topics538,043
Posts9,732,291
Members87,055
Most Online25,604
Feb 12th, 2024
Print Thread
Hodgdon acquires Ramshot and Accurate #7995294 10/02/20 02:40 AM
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 297
FTWshooter Offline OP
Bird Dog
OP Offline
Bird Dog
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 297
Hodgdon buys Ramshot and Accurate powder companies.

I hope they don’t mess with Ramshot, it was starting to become one of my favorite powder brands

https://www.internationalsportsman.com/hodgdon-acquires-ramshot-accurate-and-blackhorn-209/

Re: Hodgdon acquires Ramshot and Accurate [Re: FTWshooter] #7995301 10/02/20 02:48 AM
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 2
S
spentprimers Offline
Green Horn
Offline
Green Horn
S
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 2
Hodgdon has always been one of my favorites. They seem to be a solidly lead company so this should be good for both Ramshot and Accurate. I'm surprised that Ramshot was on the market; less so with Accurate.


Have a good'n.
Re: Hodgdon acquires Ramshot and Accurate [Re: FTWshooter] #7995498 10/02/20 01:00 PM
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 925
B
BigDad Offline
Tracker
Offline
Tracker
B
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 925
Originally Posted by FTWshooter
Hodgdon buys Ramshot and Accurate powder companies.

I hope they don’t mess with Ramshot, it was starting to become one of my favorite powder brands

https://www.internationalsportsman.com/hodgdon-acquires-ramshot-accurate-and-blackhorn-209/


I don't they changed IMR when they acquired them so hopefully the same for Ramshot.


Joe
Re: Hodgdon acquires Ramshot and Accurate [Re: FTWshooter] #7995531 10/02/20 01:38 PM
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 39,549
R
redchevy Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
R
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 39,549
Dang hodgdon is gonna be the only one before long.


It's hell eatin em live
Re: Hodgdon acquires Ramshot and Accurate [Re: FTWshooter] #7995750 10/02/20 04:03 PM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 18,954
C
ChadTRG42 Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
C
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 18,954
Wow. Honestly, this is concerning. When you have one company that controls ALL the major powder companies in the US, it would be detrimental in getting powder if something happened to that one company. And if you wanted to regulate the powder market, whether that would be controlling the products (i.e., government) or price fixing it, it would be easier to do. The main powder companies are IMR, Hodgdon, Alliant, Accurate, Winchester and Ramshot. The other outside US owned are Vihtavuori and Norma, and a few smaller one's. That would make them pretty close to a monopoly for the US market. People often worry about supply and demand. What if something happened to Hodgdon as a company? And a Dem is in the white house, do you think they would bail them out or help them? Again, this deal is concerning to me.


[Linked Image]
Custom and Precision Ammunition!!
https://DallasReloads.com/
Type 01 and Type 06 FFL
Re: Hodgdon acquires Ramshot and Accurate [Re: FTWshooter] #7995875 10/02/20 05:12 PM
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 5,455
B
Big Fitz Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
B
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 5,455
I'm with Chad on this. Really like Hodgdon powders but that approaching a monopoly and reduces competition. We consumers benefit from companies competing for our business.


Originally Posted by onlysmith&wesson
I was wrong...on anything technical.

Originally Posted by Sailor
Fitz............. is right, ya know............
Re: Hodgdon acquires Ramshot and Accurate [Re: FTWshooter] #7995934 10/02/20 06:13 PM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 18,954
C
ChadTRG42 Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
C
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 18,954
I've always said, if you want to control the firearms in this country, start with controlling the powder and primers. If one regulation, government sanction, (or whatever) alters the company function and ability to operate, and that company is THE main powder supplier in the US, we now have a major problem. If you control the powder and the primers, you are essentially shutting down the fuel that feeds the firearms. That, is what I worry about.


[Linked Image]
Custom and Precision Ammunition!!
https://DallasReloads.com/
Type 01 and Type 06 FFL
Re: Hodgdon acquires Ramshot and Accurate [Re: FTWshooter] #7995954 10/02/20 06:23 PM
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 407
D
DeleteThisAccount Offline
Bird Dog
Offline
Bird Dog
D
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 407
I actually take a different view of it. You don't need a ton of different competitors to have a competitive market, you really only need 1 decent competitor...and overall, there are still quite a few competitors in this market - including a good number of smaller less known/popular brands (more so when considering foreign companies that compete)...the more the merrier, obviously, but this market isn't suddenly going to become noncompetitive due to these acquisitions. As far as price fixing, very few companies have the balls to price fix these days, esp. companies in heavily regulated areas - so that isn't a reasonable concern IMO. But what you do get when you have 1 clear market leader that owns a large portion of the market is a single force to be reckoned with when it comes to lobbying. Larger companies are almost always more effective at lobbying - primarily because of the amount of money they can spend. So, when I see Hodgdon buying up most of the popular competition - I see a more secure market in the future that will come from stronger and more well funded lobbying efforts.


Last edited by Binary; 10/02/20 06:33 PM.
Re: Hodgdon acquires Ramshot and Accurate [Re: FTWshooter] #7995972 10/02/20 06:38 PM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 18,954
C
ChadTRG42 Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
C
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 18,954
Binary, I hope you are right! I can see that as a benefit also.


[Linked Image]
Custom and Precision Ammunition!!
https://DallasReloads.com/
Type 01 and Type 06 FFL
Re: Hodgdon acquires Ramshot and Accurate [Re: FTWshooter] #7996154 10/02/20 09:29 PM
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 5,175
S
scottfromdallas Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
S
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 5,175

I love Ramshot TAC.



Re: Hodgdon acquires Ramshot and Accurate [Re: FTWshooter] #7996738 10/03/20 12:50 PM
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 297
FTWshooter Offline OP
Bird Dog
OP Offline
Bird Dog
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 297
Nothing against Hodgdon I like their powder, I just get leery when one company starts buying out other companies. I know they aren’t a monopoly but dang they are starting to look like the “m” word ha ha

Dang, speaking of Ramshot, tried to find Ramshot Magnum at my usual online suppliers and they are all out!

Re: Hodgdon acquires Ramshot and Accurate [Re: FTWshooter] #7996833 10/03/20 02:34 PM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,919
M
maximum Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
M
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,919
I haven't bought any of either one in a
good while except for TAC and 1680.
The best part of either manufacturer
was that when those brands first showed
up around here, you could buy any of
the Accurate or Ramshot for considerably
less than any of the older established
powders. Now, they're all as expensive
as the next one.
Hopefully they won't pull a Remington and
run a good product in the dirt

Re: Hodgdon acquires Ramshot and Accurate [Re: FTWshooter] #7996882 10/03/20 03:20 PM
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,179
T
Tactical Cowboy Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
T
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,179
I hope they keep/update the online reloading guide. That's my favorite thing about hodgdon


The secret to a long life is to try not to shorten it.
Re: Hodgdon acquires Ramshot and Accurate [Re: FTWshooter] #7997316 10/04/20 12:18 AM
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 5,198
S
Smokey Bear Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
S
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 5,198
Hodgdon is a good company and I like their powder. That said I hate to see them buying up the competition and their market share. Some Hodgdon powders are already hard to impossible to find right now. The one who benefits from a competitive market is the consumer.


Smokey Bear---Lone Star State.
Re: Hodgdon acquires Ramshot and Accurate [Re: ChadTRG42] #8018837 10/22/20 02:35 AM
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,412
C
crash700 Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
C
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,412
Originally Posted by ChadTRG42
Wow. Honestly, this is concerning. When you have one company that controls ALL the major powder companies in the US, it would be detrimental in getting powder if something happened to that one company. And if you wanted to regulate the powder market, whether that would be controlling the products (i.e., government) or price fixing it, it would be easier to do. The main powder companies are IMR, Hodgdon, Alliant, Accurate, Winchester and Ramshot. The other outside US owned are Vihtavuori and Norma, and a few smaller one's. That would make them pretty close to a monopoly for the US market. People often worry about supply and demand. What if something happened to Hodgdon as a company? And a Dem is in the white house, do you think they would bail them out or help them? Again, this deal is concerning to me.


Very well stated. I could see the dems trying to make it very difficult to get powder. They have a history of trying to make it difficult for firearms related business to do their banking. This was an issue under the obummer admin with holder.


Si Vis Pacem Parabellum
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

© 2004-2024 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3