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Difference between cheap Winchester shells and Black Cloud on the inside of these shells? #7902602 07/16/20 01:35 PM
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Check out this video to see the difference between the Winchester shells and Black cloud. What shells do you prefer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPXbOIU-hxg

Re: Difference between cheap Winchester shells and Black Cloud on the inside of these shells? [Re: Everydaylimits] #7902669 07/16/20 02:25 PM
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Re: Difference between cheap Winchester shells and Black Cloud on the inside of these shells? [Re: Everydaylimits] #7903666 07/17/20 12:02 PM
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I prefer Remington Sport loads 3 inch #4 pellet.

Re: Difference between cheap Winchester shells and Black Cloud on the inside of these shells? [Re: Everydaylimits] #7903707 07/17/20 12:58 PM
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Re: Difference between cheap Winchester shells and Black Cloud on the inside of these shells? [Re: Everydaylimits] #7904014 07/17/20 05:31 PM
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I really like winchester drylok high velocity rounds. I also have some kent bismuth that I like.

When I shoot my current stock down I'll probably get some boss shotshells. But honestly have no complaints with winchester or kent, the boss shells will just be to try something new.

Like most stuff, the cheapest stuff on the market is normally crap. The most expensive stuff is normally only marginally better than middle of the road stuff. I like the middle.of the road stuff bc it seems to be the best bang for the duck.

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Re: Difference between cheap Winchester shells and Black Cloud on the inside of these shells? [Re: Everydaylimits] #7904060 07/17/20 06:20 PM
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I've shot nearly everything and I buy cheap Rios. When you can get them dirt cheap from Rogers and still kill birds its an easy decision for me...


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Re: Difference between cheap Winchester shells and Black Cloud on the inside of these shells? [Re: Everydaylimits] #7904106 07/17/20 07:10 PM
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Dont tell me you have to run $30 shells to kill ducks too.......

Every one I've killed was with the basic Winchester Super X shells.... and the Hevi Steel shells.

Gonna start using Kent Faststeels this season since I'll be running a new auto loader

Re: Difference between cheap Winchester shells and Black Cloud on the inside of these shells? [Re: Everydaylimits] #7904145 07/17/20 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Everydaylimits
Check out this video to see the difference between the Winchester shells and Black cloud. What shells do you prefer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPXbOIU-hxg


The ones I got on sale.

I kill more ducks with cheap shells than some folks I hunt with using high dollar magic shotshells. They're a waste of money. Marketing nonsense.



Re: Difference between cheap Winchester shells and Black Cloud on the inside of these shells? [Re: aerangis] #7904228 07/17/20 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Everydaylimits
Check out this video to see the difference between the Winchester shells and Black cloud. What shells do you prefer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPXbOIU-hxg


The ones I got on sale.

I kill more ducks with cheap shells than some folks I hunt with using high dollar magic shotshells. They're a waste of money. Marketing nonsense.




If it's high dollar steel, yes, it's marketing and a waste. But if it's bismuth, which Boss is, it's not nonsense. Bismuth kills ducks better, there's all kinds of proof behind it.


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Re: Difference between cheap Winchester shells and Black Cloud on the inside of these shells? [Re: Everydaylimits] #7904251 07/17/20 09:22 PM
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As long as you put the string on them, any piece o' carp load will kill ducks inside 35 yards. The places I hunt that is usually plenty, so I go middle of the road and shoot the Federal Ultra Shocks. Similar to Kent Fast Steel.

I have to admit that having a good dog by my side makes me want to skyblast a bit more. I know all ll I need to do is bring them down and watch her work. That being said, with the Federals I've folded a lot of ducks over the last couple of years a lot further out than I'd normally shoot. I can't imagine a need for bismuth, but if I didn't have a dog or had a reason to shoot out beyond 50 yards I wouldn't hesitate to give it a go.


Re: Difference between cheap Winchester shells and Black Cloud on the inside of these shells? [Re: Everydaylimits] #7904280 07/17/20 09:39 PM
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Meh.

Steel shot is steel shot.

Range doesn’t change because physics is physics.

If you have a good choke And spare time you can get welding slag to pattern.


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Have some Rios from a good sale a few years ago and always buy some Federals when they have good rebates, like now. $4 a box refund.

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I get the Winchester’s on sale with rebate each year. Practice more, get a kicks high flyer choke, and worry less about high dollar shells.

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Originally Posted by takemking
I get the Winchester’s on sale with rebate each year. Practice more, get a kicks high flyer choke, and worry less about high dollar shells.


Yep x2. Usually get a case of Blind Side's for about $120 before each season

Re: Difference between cheap Winchester shells and Black Cloud on the inside of these shells? [Re: Everydaylimits] #7904696 07/18/20 01:48 PM
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Knowing how your shotgun shoots, biweekly clays, and cheap shells. You'll be just fine.

If you cant hit what youre shooting at magic shells won't help.

Re: Difference between cheap Winchester shells and Black Cloud on the inside of these shells? [Re: aerangis] #7904721 07/18/20 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by aerangis
Knowing how your shotgun shoots, biweekly clays, and cheap shells. You'll be just fine.

If you cant hit what youre shooting at magic shells won't help.

But you're wrong on part of that.
I'll agree that high end steel isn't any better than cheap steel though, but...

Bismuth is proven to penetrate better, have less cripples, and kill more effectively.
Have you seen how many hunters quit hunting ducks because they couldn't shoot lead anymore and were crippling ducks left and right?
Bismuth has now fixed that.
I have pics of bismuth, that i can post up if needed, actually penetrating ballistic gel superior to lead.
It's literally science that steel basically sucks.

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