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Re: Looks like kneeling is going to be in style this football season.
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06/06/20 02:16 AM
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Re: Looks like kneeling is going to be in style this football season.
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06/06/20 02:18 AM
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Veterans acknowledge their right to do so because they are teeming with values like honor and discipline. They don’t question why. They do or die. For everyone, regardless. They aren’t going to fish for respect. They’re far more concerned with the preservation of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, for all. The least anyone could do is nothing that might disrespect them and what they’ve done. Anthem kneelers may or may not do just that, but enough people feel that they do a disservice to our freedom fighters that it’s hardly worth that risk, in my mind. I’m confident in saying that the kneelers don’t care anything about it, either way, so that enough for me to cast them by the wayside. That’s just demonstrably false. Some of y’all need to research a little and not expect everyone to think like you do. Some veterans might even be offended that you’re projecting your views on all veterans because you’re using sticking up for them to cover for your viewpoint. I respect veterans, but putting EVERY veteran on the pedestal you just did to confirm your own viewpoint is wrong and factually incorrect. There are plenty of veterans who not only had no issue with the manner he protested, but supported his cause behind the protest. https://time.com/4956246/war-veteran-kneel-nfl-players/https://theundefeated.com/features/...veterans-in-support-of-colin-kaepernick/https://www.aclu.org/blog/racial-justice/i-fought-our-country-now-nfl-players-are-kneeling-meFrom the right-wing Washington Examiner: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-for-the-flag-has-anything-to-do-with-usThe best part about this is, nobody cares whether you watch or don’t watch. (Some people might care if you continually bitch and mean about not watching, but I don’t). If you’re offended, don’t watch. I didn’t like the manner of protest but I also didn’t let it stop me from watching football. I don’t agree with everyone’s political leanings here, but it doesn’t cause me to stop visiting the TFF. well, bless you heart.....
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Re: Looks like kneeling is going to be in style this football season.
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06/06/20 02:19 AM
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Re: Looks like kneeling is going to be in style this football season.
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06/06/20 02:27 AM
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For me it’s simply entertainment is...entertaining. I like football. I like movies. I like music. It’s always been somewhat baffling to me how so many put so much into the thoughts and beliefs of football players, actors or musicians. They mean only one thing to me.....entertainment. The folks that actually listen or buy into entertainers opinions on anything are lacking something in their life’s...Jmo Roger that. You're an entertainer, do your job and shut up. I continuously find myself amazed by how many people value their political beliefs. Is no one capable of thinking for themselves anymore?? Why are so many Americans today so easily influenced and brainwashed? Never mind, I just saw at least 50 phone zombies at the store. Stupid questions. Nailed it skinner...another W for the OGsalt rat...
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Re: Looks like kneeling is going to be in style this football season.
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06/06/20 02:39 AM
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Im out! No more NFL for me.
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Re: Looks like kneeling is going to be in style this football season.
[Re: pegasaurus]
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06/06/20 03:32 AM
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Don’t give a [censored] about football. I’ll never kneel for the anthem just like I’ll never kneel to protesters.
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Re: Looks like kneeling is going to be in style this football season.
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06/06/20 03:55 AM
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For me it’s simply entertainment is...entertaining. I like football. I like movies. I like music. It’s always been somewhat baffling to me how so many put so much into the thoughts and beliefs of football players, actors or musicians. They mean only one thing to me.....entertainment. The folks that actually listen or buy into entertainers opinions on anything are lacking something in their life’s...Jmo Roger that. You're an entertainer, do your job and shut up. I continuously find myself amazed by how many people value their political beliefs. Is no one capable of thinking for themselves anymore?? Why are so many Americans today so easily influenced and brainwashed? Never mind, I just saw at least 50 phone zombies at the store. Stupid questions. Really? That’s like saying you have no say in any of this either. Your opinion doesn’t matter if you’re a welder, trucker, salesman or basketball player. Come on. Just because you disagree with him doesn’t invalidate his opinion. Ignore the political opinions just like I do. I ignore politics of most people. Doesn’t change anything for me.
I just turned it on . I was looking bird dogs in the butt this morning.
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Re: Looks like kneeling is going to be in style this football season.
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06/06/20 03:58 AM
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Veterans acknowledge their right to do so because they are teeming with values like honor and discipline. They don’t question why. They do or die. For everyone, regardless. They aren’t going to fish for respect. They’re far more concerned with the preservation of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, for all. The least anyone could do is nothing that might disrespect them and what they’ve done. Anthem kneelers may or may not do just that, but enough people feel that they do a disservice to our freedom fighters that it’s hardly worth that risk, in my mind. I’m confident in saying that the kneelers don’t care anything about it, either way, so that enough for me to cast them by the wayside. That’s just demonstrably false. Some of y’all need to research a little and not expect everyone to think like you do. Some veterans might even be offended that you’re projecting your views on all veterans because you’re using sticking up for them to cover for your viewpoint. I respect veterans, but putting EVERY veteran on the pedestal you just did to confirm your own viewpoint is wrong and factually incorrect. There are plenty of veterans who not only had no issue with the manner he protested, but supported his cause behind the protest. https://time.com/4956246/war-veteran-kneel-nfl-players/https://theundefeated.com/features/...veterans-in-support-of-colin-kaepernick/https://www.aclu.org/blog/racial-justice/i-fought-our-country-now-nfl-players-are-kneeling-meFrom the right-wing Washington Examiner: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-for-the-flag-has-anything-to-do-with-usThe best part about this is, nobody cares whether you watch or don’t watch. (Some people might care if you continually bitch and mean about not watching, but I don’t). If you’re offended, don’t watch. I didn’t like the manner of protest but I also didn’t let it stop me from watching football. I don’t agree with everyone’s political leanings here, but it doesn’t cause me to stop visiting the TFF. well, bless you heart..... The day I get tired of proving you to be a pompous arrogant ignoramus is the day I care about your blessings, Concho. You speak for yourself, and in your mind that’s everyone, but nobody cares. And it’s pretty well established that DC is a veteran, so if you’re going to say his opinion on this topic doesn’t matter, then no veteran’s opinion matters, which makes you arrogant. And if you don’t know that DC is a veteran, that’s at least twice this week you’ve stepped in it by not knowing who you’re talking to, which makes you pompous.
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I just turned it on . I was looking bird dogs in the butt this morning.
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Re: Looks like kneeling is going to be in style this football season.
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06/06/20 04:05 AM
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Don’t give a [censored] about football. I’ll never kneel for the anthem just like I’ll never kneel to protesters. I won’t kneel either.
I just turned it on . I was looking bird dogs in the butt this morning.
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Re: Looks like kneeling is going to be in style this football season.
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06/06/20 04:05 AM
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Veterans acknowledge their right to do so because they are teeming with values like honor and discipline. They don’t question why. They do or die. For everyone, regardless. They aren’t going to fish for respect. They’re far more concerned with the preservation of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, for all. The least anyone could do is nothing that might disrespect them and what they’ve done. Anthem kneelers may or may not do just that, but enough people feel that they do a disservice to our freedom fighters that it’s hardly worth that risk, in my mind. I’m confident in saying that the kneelers don’t care anything about it, either way, so that enough for me to cast them by the wayside. That’s just demonstrably false. Some of y’all need to research a little and not expect everyone to think like you do. Some veterans might even be offended that you’re projecting your views on all veterans because you’re using sticking up for them to cover for your viewpoint. I respect veterans, but putting EVERY veteran on the pedestal you just did to confirm your own viewpoint is wrong and factually incorrect. There are plenty of veterans who not only had no issue with the manner he protested, but supported his cause behind the protest. https://time.com/4956246/war-veteran-kneel-nfl-players/https://theundefeated.com/features/...veterans-in-support-of-colin-kaepernick/https://www.aclu.org/blog/racial-justice/i-fought-our-country-now-nfl-players-are-kneeling-meFrom the right-wing Washington Examiner: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-for-the-flag-has-anything-to-do-with-usThe best part about this is, nobody cares whether you watch or don’t watch. (Some people might care if you continually bitch and mean about not watching, but I don’t). If you’re offended, don’t watch. I didn’t like the manner of protest but I also didn’t let it stop me from watching football. I don’t agree with everyone’s political leanings here, but it doesn’t cause me to stop visiting the TFF. How did I project my views on any veterans? Do you know what “in my mind” means?
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Re: Looks like kneeling is going to be in style this football season.
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06/06/20 04:25 AM
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Veterans acknowledge their right to do so because they are teeming with values like honor and discipline. They don’t question why. They do or die. For everyone, regardless. They aren’t going to fish for respect. They’re far more concerned with the preservation of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, for all. The least anyone could do is nothing that might disrespect them and what they’ve done. Anthem kneelers may or may not do just that, but enough people feel that they do a disservice to our freedom fighters that it’s hardly worth that risk, in my mind. I’m confident in saying that the kneelers don’t care anything about it, either way, so that enough for me to cast them by the wayside. That’s just demonstrably false. Some of y’all need to research a little and not expect everyone to think like you do. Some veterans might even be offended that you’re projecting your views on all veterans because you’re using sticking up for them to cover for your viewpoint. I respect veterans, but putting EVERY veteran on the pedestal you just did to confirm your own viewpoint is wrong and factually incorrect. There are plenty of veterans who not only had no issue with the manner he protested, but supported his cause behind the protest. https://time.com/4956246/war-veteran-kneel-nfl-players/https://theundefeated.com/features/...veterans-in-support-of-colin-kaepernick/https://www.aclu.org/blog/racial-justice/i-fought-our-country-now-nfl-players-are-kneeling-meFrom the right-wing Washington Examiner: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-for-the-flag-has-anything-to-do-with-usThe best part about this is, nobody cares whether you watch or don’t watch. (Some people might care if you continually bitch and mean about not watching, but I don’t). If you’re offended, don’t watch. I didn’t like the manner of protest but I also didn’t let it stop me from watching football. I don’t agree with everyone’s political leanings here, but it doesn’t cause me to stop visiting the TFF. How did I project my views on any veterans? Do you know what “in my mind” means? Veterans acknowledge their right to do so because they are teeming with values like honor and discipline. They don’t question why. They do or die. For everyone, regardless. They aren’t going to fish for respect. They’re far more concerned with the preservation of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, for all. The least anyone could do is nothing that might disrespect them and what they’ve done. Anthem kneelers may or may not do just that, but enough people feel that they do a disservice to our freedom fighters that it’s hardly worth that risk, in my mind. I’m confident in saying that the kneelers don’t care anything about it, either way, so that enough for me to cast them by the wayside.
I just turned it on . I was looking bird dogs in the butt this morning.
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Re: Looks like kneeling is going to be in style this football season.
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06/06/20 04:25 AM
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For me it’s simply entertainment is...entertaining. I like football. I like movies. I like music. It’s always been somewhat baffling to me how so many put so much into the thoughts and beliefs of football players, actors or musicians. They mean only one thing to me.....entertainment. The folks that actually listen or buy into entertainers opinions on anything are lacking something in their life’s...Jmo Roger that. You're an entertainer, do your job and shut up. I continuously find myself amazed by how many people value their political beliefs. Is no one capable of thinking for themselves anymore?? Why are so many Americans today so easily influenced and brainwashed? Never mind, I just saw at least 50 phone zombies at the store. Stupid questions. Really? That’s like saying you have no say in any of this either. Your opinion doesn’t matter if you’re a welder, trucker, salesman or basketball player. Come on. Just because you disagree with him doesn’t invalidate his opinion. Ignore the political opinions just like I do. I ignore politics of most people. Doesn’t change anything for me. Nope. The day that my political opinions effect millions of young Americans I will keep my mouth shut and just do my job. Entertain, and STFU. Entertainers have a huge platform to communicate their political beliefs, most of us do not. I am sick and tired of having left wing ideologies shoved down my throat. It's everywhere now. I am also tired of being told to "Ignore political opinions just like I do". I will never be a passivist. Just look at Taylor Swift and all of the young folks that believe every bit of her ignorant left wing anti Trump BS. B**** just shut up and sing, quit brainwashing more of young America.
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Re: Looks like kneeling is going to be in style this football season.
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06/06/20 04:35 AM
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In 1968 I was at Fort Polk, the Battalion was alerted for possible riot control. The Battalion Sergeant Major stood us at attention and informed us it was not our duty to judge the people and their protests. The one thing I have never forgotten is his words about protests. Not his exact words but as close as I remember them.. We will be there to protect their rights to protest regardless of how we feel about what they are doing.
A lot of good men and women have died protecting the Rights that are in the Constitution. If you are that serious about what they are doing, organize your own protest.
Combat Infantryman, the ultimate hunter where the prey shoots back. _____________"Illegitimus non carborundum est"_______________
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Re: Looks like kneeling is going to be in style this football season.
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A lot of good men and women have died protecting the Rights that are in the Constitution. If you are that serious about what they are doing, organize your own protest. Yes Sir, a lot of good men & women have died protecting the Rights that are in our Constitution......only to have ignorant young brainwashed Americans tare down and disrespect the statues of the very people that sacrificed for them, and for law and order. Pure f'n ignorance. They burn the American flag in the street and it means nothing to them. If this sort of thing continues there very well may be a "protest" from the silent majority.
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Re: Looks like kneeling is going to be in style this football season.
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Re: Looks like kneeling is going to be in style this football season.
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Sadly, not the case. The NFL could burn the American flag at the 50 yrd line and many would still watch the games.
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Re: Looks like kneeling is going to be in style this football season.
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I find it interesting when people try to show empathy towards a particular group by explaining how that group, of which they have no first hand knowledge, feels or should feel about a particular topic.
As a veteran, I can tell you with 100% certainty that we are are a group of Americans from all walks of life and we each have our own thoughts, ideas and sensitivities. As Americans, we don’t expect to be placed on a pedestal. It’s a job and we are proud to have been given the opportunity to serve America.
I personally do not have any issue with people protesting. People can protest whatever they want. What I don’t like, in this NFL players case, is how they are choosing to show their protest. To me, the method in which they choose to protest seems to be aimed at the symbol of America. If you protest the very thing that has the purpose of pulling Americans together.... you will never be successful in getting your voice heard.
Funny thing about getting older: Your eyesight starts getting weaker but your ability to see through people's BS gets much better.
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Re: Looks like kneeling is going to be in style this football season.
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After listening to all of the one sided BS from the radio sports announcers and Roger Goodell statement I will no longer watch the NFL. Stopped watching NBA a long time ago. I will no longer watch any professional sports on TV except UFC and maybe a little golf unless they swing left also.If I get tickets to the Rangers or Stars I will go to those games.
Notice no more Cowboy pic on my signature, its real "FTA"
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Re: Looks like kneeling is going to be in style this football season.
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Been turned off by the NFL for years now. Don’t miss it. Don’t care. With The China virus, damaged economy and offending many in their fan base, I see a recipe for financial disaster for the NFL.
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Re: Looks like kneeling is going to be in style this football season.
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I find it interesting when people try to show empathy towards a particular group by explaining how that group, of which they have no first hand knowledge, feels or should feel about a particular topic.
As a veteran, I can tell you with 100% certainty that we are are a group of Americans from all walks of life and we each have our own thoughts, ideas and sensitivities. As Americans, we don’t expect to be placed on a pedestal. It’s a job and we are proud to have been given the opportunity to serve America.
I personally do not have any issue with people protesting. People can protest whatever they want. What I don’t like, in this NFL players case, is how they are choosing to show their protest. To me, the method in which they choose to protest seems to be aimed at the symbol of America. If you protest the very thing that has the purpose of pulling Americans together.... you will never be successful in getting your voice heard.
I 100% agree, however, the green beret who told him he should kneel feels differently.
I just turned it on . I was looking bird dogs in the butt this morning.
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Re: Looks like kneeling is going to be in style this football season.
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For me it’s simply entertainment is...entertaining. I like football. I like movies. I like music. It’s always been somewhat baffling to me how so many put so much into the thoughts and beliefs of football players, actors or musicians. They mean only one thing to me.....entertainment. The folks that actually listen or buy into entertainers opinions on anything are lacking something in their life’s...Jmo Roger that. You're an entertainer, do your job and shut up. I continuously find myself amazed by how many people value their political beliefs. Is no one capable of thinking for themselves anymore?? Why are so many Americans today so easily influenced and brainwashed? Never mind, I just saw at least 50 phone zombies at the store. Stupid questions. Really? That’s like saying you have no say in any of this either. Your opinion doesn’t matter if you’re a welder, trucker, salesman or basketball player. Come on. Just because you disagree with him doesn’t invalidate his opinion. Ignore the political opinions just like I do. I ignore politics of most people. Doesn’t change anything for me. Nope. The day that my political opinions effect millions of young Americans I will keep my mouth shut and just do my job. Entertain, and STFU. Entertainers have a huge platform to communicate their political beliefs, most of us do not. I am sick and tired of having left wing ideologies shoved down my throat. It's everywhere now. I am also tired of being told to "Ignore political opinions just like I do". I will never be a passivist. Just look at Taylor Swift and all of the young folks that believe every bit of her ignorant left wing anti Trump BS. B**** just shut up and sing, quit brainwashing more of young America.
I just turned it on . I was looking bird dogs in the butt this morning.
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Re: Looks like kneeling is going to be in style this football season.
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Wonder if a certain person will now get a QB job?
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Re: Looks like kneeling is going to be in style this football season.
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I like most do not agree with the kneeling, but football is not going away
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Wonder if a certain person will now get a QB job? I think he's going to be the new NFL commissioner. I sure hope so.That would be GREAT. Bye bye NFL.
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Re: Looks like kneeling is going to be in style this football season.
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I like most do not agree with the kneeling, but football is not going away
Ya'll aint seen the commercial sponcered by NFL about the virus ?
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