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Looking for English pup.
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06/03/20 03:53 PM
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Nick1
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Hello, I’m looking to purchase an ACK English, British, bench, show (whatever you want to call it) lab From reputable breeder doing all the right things. Looking for a female with cleared parents of genetics and hips etc with paperwork to show testing. Prefer a chocolate. I live in San Antonio but willing to drive in Texas. Thanks, pm me if you prefer that with info.
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Re: Looking for English pup.
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06/03/20 05:30 PM
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BradyBuck
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Chocolate show dog for a hunting buddy...
Putting yourself behind the right ball from the start..
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Re: Looking for English pup.
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06/03/20 07:16 PM
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Nick1
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Chocolate show dog for a hunting buddy...
Putting yourself behind the right ball from the start.. Not from what I’ve read.
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Re: Looking for English pup.
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06/03/20 07:29 PM
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Smokey Bear
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Brady dropping a pearl of wisdom on you...
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Re: Looking for English pup.
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06/04/20 12:14 AM
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BradyBuck
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"Eight ball" ....
You literally couldn't pick another lab type that has a better chance of being a flop...
You definitely could end up with a good hunting buddy but you are stacking the deck against yourself.
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Re: Looking for English pup.
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06/04/20 12:50 AM
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Nick1
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"Eight ball" ....
You literally couldn't pick another lab type that has a better chance of being a flop...
You definitely could end up with a good hunting buddy but you are stacking the deck against yourself. Are you talking about wanting an English? Is it the chocolate that’s the problem, or both? Please explain.. not saying you are wrong. What is your experience with either. What do you recommend? Thanks
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Re: Looking for English pup.
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06/04/20 02:11 AM
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BradyBuck
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"Eight ball" ....
You literally couldn't pick another lab type that has a better chance of being a flop...
You definitely could end up with a good hunting buddy but you are stacking the deck against yourself. Are you talking about wanting an English? Is it the chocolate that’s the problem, or both? Please explain.. not saying you are wrong. What is your experience with either. What do you recommend? Thanks It is my recommendation that anyone wanting a Labrador for hunting purposes buy from a litter with a proven pedigree and all appropriate health clearances. You can find that in any color. The issue with an English bred chocolate specifically is that they literally have only been bred for looks. You are already shrinking your gene pool by wanting chocolate and then add in the "English" factor and it's even worse. Anyone advertising an "English" litter would throw up red flags anyway in that it's not even an acceptable term. You can probably find a chocolate conformation/Show bred litter with some hunt test titles in the pedigree or at the very least watch the parents hunt and observe their temperament. It will just take some digging and research to find a good one. If I was you I'd look for a good field bred chocolate litter that has the "look" you want and then ask about temperament and go meet the parents and see if they have the traits you are looking for.
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Re: Looking for English pup.
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06/04/20 02:37 AM
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Bradybuck.... “You can probably find a chocolate conformation/Show bred litter with some hunt test titles in the pedigree or at the very least watch the parents hunt and observe their temperament.
It will just take some digging and research to find a good one.
If I was you I'd look for a good field bred chocolate litter that has the "look" you want and then ask about temperament and go meet the parents and see if they have the traits you are looking for.”
These are the English chocolates I’m already talking about.. speaking to many breeders, some of the best are breeding the best qualities of English labs. I know semantics that English isn’t even correct, but it is what it is. Is a “good field bred chocolate” lab you are talking about the “American” version? I’m open to either, I just read the English has a calmer demeanor, not as hyper/driven. That fits my lifestyle better. Appreciate your info
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Re: Looking for English pup.
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06/04/20 04:09 PM
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Leonardo
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Bradybuck.... “You can probably find a chocolate conformation/Show bred litter with some hunt test titles in the pedigree or at the very least watch the parents hunt and observe their temperament.
It will just take some digging and research to find a good one.
If I was you I'd look for a good field bred chocolate litter that has the "look" you want and then ask about temperament and go meet the parents and see if they have the traits you are looking for.”
These are the English chocolates I’m already talking about.. speaking to many breeders, some of the best are breeding the best qualities of English labs. I know semantics that English isn’t even correct, but it is what it is. Is a “good field bred chocolate” lab you are talking about the “American” version? I’m open to either, I just read the English has a calmer demeanor, not as hyper/driven. That fits my lifestyle better. Appreciate your info The breeder's are trying to sell you something! BradyBuck is offering solid advice with no skin in the game. When your leading your search by color and key words then your off to a bad start. A majority of the time temperament around the house is a learned behavior.
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Re: Looking for English pup.
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06/05/20 07:58 PM
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Nick1
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Leonardo...I’m listening to bradybucks advice with open ears. As a novice in this arena I’m open to all aspects of the advice. Do you think I’m disagreeing with him? What makes you think so? Hey thanks for taking a puff off his cigar though. Bradybuck.... “You can probably find a chocolate conformation/Show bred litter with some hunt test titles in the pedigree or at the very least watch the parents hunt and observe their temperament.
It will just take some digging and research to find a good one.
If I was you I'd look for a good field bred chocolate litter that has the "look" you want and then ask about temperament and go meet the parents and see if they have the traits you are looking for.”
These are the English chocolates I’m already talking about.. speaking to many breeders, some of the best are breeding the best qualities of English labs. I know semantics that English isn’t even correct, but it is what it is. Is a “good field bred chocolate” lab you are talking about the “American” version? I’m open to either, I just read the English has a calmer demeanor, not as hyper/driven. That fits my lifestyle better. Appreciate your info The breeder's are trying to sell you something! BradyBuck is offering solid advice with no skin in the game. When your leading your search by color and key words then your off to a bad start. A majority of the time temperament around the house is a learned behavior.
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Re: Looking for English pup.
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06/05/20 08:04 PM
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Nick1
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After reading some advice, I opened up my search. I actually put a deposit on a lab pup that the sire is all field with a proven hunting/retrieving history and the mom is 1/2 English half American. This will be their third litter. Previous pups look great. Females averaging 60 lbs with a slight thicker frame than an all American female. This was the look I was going for originally. Thanks for the advice. Bradybuck actually opened up my eyes a little. Thanks.
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