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Re: one for you non believers of the Covid 19 [Re: luv2brode] #7831228 05/06/20 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by luv2brode
Lost me at he worked w politicians



Lost me at California.

Re: one for you non believers of the Covid 19 [Re: reeltexan] #7831241 05/06/20 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by reeltexan

Every one of these so called experts cites differing numbers.

He says 10% mortality if you contract the virus and have health issues.
I've seen several others lately that claim the rate is .01% IF you are over 65 and have health issues.

The virus is real. The question is: did we do the correct thing?
I don't think the true answers won't be known for a long time.

....and as a clays shooter I would question his claim, grouping people together - "patient is obese, hypertensive, has heart or lung problems, or suffers from diabetes. This patient profile describes about 70 percent of all sporting clays shooters."


The mortality rate is definitely not 0.01% for any age group. maybe 0.1%, but the numbers don't play out much lower than that. The current death numbers and presumed infection numbers suggest a mortality in the 0.5-0.6% range. To get to a 0.01% range we would need to have well over half the population already infected. Quick numbers show that given 70K deaths, to get a mortality rate of 0.01% would require 700M infections....double the population of the US. So there is no way it is that low. even saying the mortality is 0.1% would require 70M infections at this point, and we haven't gotten antibody data to say that 20% of the population has gotten it (current data suggests this is closer to 4%).

Re: one for you non believers of the Covid 19 [Re: S.A. hunter] #7831244 05/06/20 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by S.A. hunter
Originally Posted by Texas buckeye
hows the fishing SA?

No bueno...... only one keeper spec. Gonna fish hard today, and tomorrow.


What are you using for bait? And where are you fishing in rockport? Have some buddies that fish there quite regularly and catch stuff almost every time they go out, but you gotta be willing to get wet and a little muddy....

Re: one for you non believers of the Covid 19 [Re: Buzzsaw] #7831247 05/06/20 02:53 PM
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Buzz we get it congratulations You are older and retired and a good nest egg to take care of your daughter. Some of us are trying to build that nest egg so that we can do the same thing Don't get in my way I did not get in yours.

Re: one for you non believers of the Covid 19 [Re: Buzzsaw] #7831248 05/06/20 02:53 PM
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I may have missed it, but why is the US mortality rate lower than the world's rate?

Re: one for you non believers of the Covid 19 [Re: Hudbone] #7831254 05/06/20 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Hudbone
I may have missed it, but why is the US mortality rate lower than the world's rate?


combination of things, more testing so more positives to balance out the deaths, better medical care, we didn't overwhelm the system for the most part, things like that.

If you look at the big picture, each state has their own numbers and Texas has been hit very lightly by comparison to most. Our per capita infection rate is low and our death rate is very low compared to most of the other big population states.

Re: one for you non believers of the Covid 19 [Re: Texas buckeye] #7831264 05/06/20 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas buckeye
Originally Posted by Hudbone
I may have missed it, but why is the US mortality rate lower than the world's rate?


combination of things, more testing so more positives to balance out the deaths, better medical care, we didn't overwhelm the system for the most part, things like that.

If you look at the big picture, each state has their own numbers and Texas has been hit very lightly by comparison to most. Our per capita infection rate is low and our death rate is very low compared to most of the other big population states.


Last I heard, so was testing. Texas ranked last of the 5 most populous states. I guess numbers will tell when testing is ramped up.


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Re: one for you non believers of the Covid 19 [Re: Buzzsaw] #7831279 05/06/20 03:23 PM
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Thank you Buzzsaw for your observations as a doctor and non-political viewpoint on the Covid-19 situation. There is so much misinformation on the net and in the media that I appreciate you taking your time to share your personal concern with the members on this forum. The more valid information we have allows each of us to make personal decisions on how we can protect ourselves as well as others around us. I personally am looking forward to your updates as you learn more.

Re: one for you non believers of the Covid 19 [Re: Buzzsaw] #7831378 05/06/20 04:40 PM
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Once I saw the sporting clays deal I figured I'd wait til it got sent to the shotgun forum...

Re: one for you non believers of the Covid 19 [Re: Pitchfork Predator] #7831387 05/06/20 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Pitchfork Predator
Doesn’t change my perception........and no mask for me......

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Re: one for you non believers of the Covid 19 [Re: Buzzsaw] #7831864 05/06/20 11:18 PM
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I have a question...
Since South Dakota never locked down, shouldn’t the media be there documenting the excessive deaths that must be occurring there?


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Re: one for you non believers of the Covid 19 [Re: reeltexan] #7831871 05/06/20 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by reeltexan

I have a question...
Since South Dakota never locked down, shouldn’t the media be there documenting the excessive deaths that must be occurring there?



With a population density of 10 people per mile doesn’t excite the media.


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Re: one for you non believers of the Covid 19 [Re: reeltexan] #7831887 05/06/20 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by reeltexan

I have a question...
Since South Dakota never locked down, shouldn’t the media be there documenting the excessive deaths that must be occurring there?

They were social distancing decades ago, practicing for todays pandemic. If you have butthole deep snow and the wind is blowing 30 miles an hour and it is 10 below zero, you adapt with out being told to.


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Re: one for you non believers of the Covid 19 [Re: Buzzsaw] #7832111 05/07/20 03:19 AM
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Buzz, unless I missed it, your treatment options made no mention of hydroxychlroquine. What are your thoughts on that? Have you seen the report about the medical director at the Houston nursing home who has prescribed it to hundreds of elderly patients and is seeing very positive results? The media won’t report that or similar stories because Trump touted it. God forbid the media, doctors or scientists who hate him put a positive spin on a drug that he said might be effective. Hell no, it could have negative side effects! Tell me, what doesn’t these days? The drug has been used for decades, but since Trump mentioned it, it’s horrible and shouldn’t be used to treat covid 19!

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