A lot of Vietnam vets have developed all kinds of heart problems. The VA says it is because of Agent Orange, in one veterans discussion the other day, the anti malaria drugs that we took daily, and the discussion came back to the Hydrochloroquine tablets. One of the members in the discussion is a retired Physicians Assistants, he said we might be on to something. Maybe it wasn't Agent Orange, but the malaria pills we took everyday or a combination of the two.

Heaven forbid he should offer some hope. Guess he should have just said all of you are f****d.

The Bee is alive and well in the off topics section today....new writer isn't as good as the old writer, although still funny.

The Bee is at least a reputable as a marketwatch article that sites a women and her husband (democrat activist by the way) who took and gave her husband (who died) fish tank cleaner as an example of problems with Trump or Trump's mentioning of Hydroxychloroquine as a possible way to combat CV-19.

The Bee is a satire website. Anyone that takes anything the Bee puts out as serious is not someone to be trifled with...

Just like the onion.

"The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment. But with 368 patients, it’s the largest look so far of hydroxychloroquine with or without the antibiotic azithromycin for COVID-19, which has killed more than 171,000 people as of Tuesday.

The study was posted on an online site for researchers and has not been reviewed by other scientists. Grants from the National Institutes of Health and the University of Virginia paid for the work."

Even then in POTUS speech he cautioned about it and heart issues. Ol’cnn dog catcher ain’t going to mention that either.

It’s sad, down right sad.

Nothing new , he exposed himself to me a few years back. With that post count it would not surprise me if trolling pays.

And marketwatch for matters that deal with the intersection of medicine, science and politics.

I'm not saying the Bee is a good source, just that marketwatch is it's equal. Unwittingly.

Yep it is. But it is good to know where people here are coming from when considering credibility of their posts. Thanks for the heads up.

Marc

Now, the Paul Harvey on this Fake News.

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1252964789816643584

Paul Harvey died in 2009

Marketwatch is a subsidiary of Dow Jones which is owned by News Corp which is owned by the Murdochs

The evidence to support Agent Orange causing anything is weak at best. It is more political than scientific. That’s going to twist some underwear on this thread. . . . But whatever.

Lots of cardiac effects with COVID19. Pair it with a drug that has cardiac effects and you can amplify the effects. Consider we are using high doses. Adding possibly using azithromycin (also prolongs QTc).

Fog of War


https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine-purchases-oklahoma-utah

Crazy some of the decisions that were made regarding PPE & Drugs

https://thenationalsentinel.com/202...prove-with-hydroxychloroquine-treatment/

“By Jon Dougherty @TheNatSent

(TNS) To Democrats and those in the Leftist media who continually advance their agenda, ‘saving even one life’ matters when it comes to imposing new gun control measures. And smoking.

But not when it comes to coronavirus, apparently.

Increasingly, doctors around the country are using an old antimalarial medication, hydroxychloroquine, to successfully treat COVID-19 patients, yet Democrats and the establishment media continue to downplay and even ridicule its use simply because the ‘bad orange man’ has supported it.

We have another success story, this one from a physician in Texas City, Texas, who says it has helped patients in the one demographic — the elderly — in which the virus most adversely affects.

Per the Houston Chronicle:
The medical director at a Texas City nursing home says some COVID-19 patients on an unproven drug are showing signs of improvement and that he’s prescribed it to another dozen patients.

Dr. Robin Armstrong said the first group of nine patients at The Resort at Texas City — where 56 residents and employees have tested positive for the disease — finished their five-day treatment with the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine on Wednesday and are stable.

“It seems like the patients are maintaining pretty steady and not having any difficulty, so that’s good,” Armstrong said, though he added that he can’t determine how much their improvement is attributable to the drug. “They seem to be getting better … We’re just continuing to monitor them.”

None of their respiratory problems have grown more severe, Armstrong said, addressing one of the most serious complications of the virus.

Armstrong is now expanding the number of patients he will administer the drug to from 27 to 39. And he continues to prescribe it after having conversations with the patients themselves, but no the families because he says that is far too time-consuming.

“If I had to call all the families for every medicine that I started on a patient, I wouldn’t be treating any patients at all; I would just be talking to families all the time,” Armstrong said.

Meanwhile, the worthless American ‘mainstream’ media continues to pooh-pooh this drug and its potential as a means of bashing the president, regardless of the results.

CNN: “President Trump is wrong in so many ways about hydroxychloroquine studies. Here are the facts.” — Can anyone remember the last time CNN published ‘facts’ about anything subject having anything at all to do with Donald Trump? Neither can we.

The Washington Post: “For Fox News hosts, the hydroxychloroquine controversy is fuel for the culture war.” — The Post, which has been so wrong on practically everything having to do with the president and his administration, couldn’t resist taking a dig at the No. 1 cable news outlet while also bashing Trump and hydroxychloroquine. And by the way, hydroxychloroquine use is only “controversial” because these media sycophants have declared it so.

The Verge: “Trump’s chloroquine hype is a misinformation problem bigger than social media.” We checked and there are no medical researchers or patients who have been given the drug and recovered involved in the writing of this story. We did find this line in the story, though: “There’s been a study with tentatively positive results (and some serious limitations), but also a few studies that show little to no therapeutic effect.”

Hey — ‘even if one life is saved’ … right?

The New Republic: “How Hydroxychloroquine Became Conservative Media’s Coronavirus Miracle Drug.” Right. It’s a “conservative media drug.” Can you say “lame?”

You get the drift. The Left-wing media is now working overtime, hand-in-hand with their Democrat masters, to kill more Americans by proclaiming that a drug which could help them survive is too ‘controversial’ to use despite the evidence to the contrary … because ‘Orange Man’ likes it.

These people really are enemies of the state.”

What did you just say? Just curious - way past my comprehension

seems we also have some here pushing fear and panic...Gotta make that post quota

One thing Kissinger was wrong about, not all men fear the unknown.

Respecting the unknown and trying to figure it out is not the same as fear. I don't fear the unknown, I welcome it, and challenge it.

Go ahead and try to bring in UN troops to DFW, Dallas might welcome them but Fort worth is not going to be so easy for them.

Don’t take if you have heart conditions-says it on the label

It’s not for everyone but shows promise