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Re: Flat tax rate?
[Re: RayB]
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02/25/20 12:35 PM
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Because 10% of a persons salary that makes $20K a year would be hurt more than a person who makes $200K a year. I just wish they would quit spending my tax money on stupid stuff Ant there’s the incentive to make more...not less.
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Re: Flat tax rate?
[Re: RattlesnakeDan]
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02/25/20 12:50 PM
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That would be my problem...agree to a 10% flat tax and how long before it became 12, then 15 then 20 and on and on it goes. My concerns exactly!!!! How taking the taxes out of congress's hand 100%. Give the people the authority to set a tax system and the government could deal with it!!!
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Re: Flat tax rate?
[Re: KWood_TSU]
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02/25/20 12:55 PM
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I doubt the flat tax will ever happen but it sure would be great if we stopped using the tax system for vote pandering, welfare/wealth redistribution and everyone paid something. Even if it's only a few percent it beats people getting back thousands more than was paid in.
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Re: Flat tax rate?
[Re: KWood_TSU]
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02/25/20 01:04 PM
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Repeal the Federal Reserve Act, repeal the 16th amendment, live in peace and prosperity. Do your research learn the history.
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This cannot be fixed at the voting booth.. Wake Up You Morons!
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Re: Flat tax rate?
[Re: Mike W]
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02/25/20 01:07 PM
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Repeal the Federal Reserve Act, repeal the 13th amendment, live in peace and prosperity. Do your research learn the history.
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Re: Flat tax rate?
[Re: Paluxy]
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02/25/20 01:10 PM
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Mike W
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Repeal the Federal Reserve Act, repeal the 13th amendment, live in peace and prosperity. Do your research learn the history. 16th amendment. Not 13th.
This cannot be fixed at the voting booth.. Wake Up You Morons!
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Re: Flat tax rate?
[Re: KWood_TSU]
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02/25/20 01:16 PM
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I was wondering where you going with that one!
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Re: Flat tax rate?
[Re: KWood_TSU]
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02/25/20 01:46 PM
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What about just adding to the sales tax?
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Re: Flat tax rate?
[Re: Tbar]
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02/25/20 02:47 PM
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As much as I would like to have a 10% flat rate I don't see how it would work. The vast majority of the tax collected comes from those paying much higher rates. That doesn't mean the top 1% pays taxes at a 39.5% tax rate....that means they pay 39.5% of the total taxes. Which means nothing. A flat tax would mean everyone pays the same amount of their earnings to taxes...doesn't that seem fair and logical?
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Re: Flat tax rate?
[Re: SnakeWrangler]
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02/25/20 02:50 PM
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Because 10% of a persons salary that makes $20K a year would be hurt more than a person who makes $200K a year. I just wish they would quit spending my tax money on stupid stuff Ant there’s the incentive to make more...not less. So while they are learning they can just do without, and make them a Bernie supporter.
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Re: Flat tax rate?
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02/25/20 02:51 PM
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Because 10% of a persons salary that makes $20K a year would be hurt more than a person who makes $200K a year. That's why a federal sales tax makes more sense. Someone making $24k a year spends less than someone making $140k a year. Do away with income tax and move to a consumption tax, even people paid under the table will contribute.
Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.
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Re: Flat tax rate?
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02/25/20 02:53 PM
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Because 10% of a persons salary that makes $20K a year would be hurt more than a person who makes $200K a year. I just wish they would quit spending my tax money on stupid stuff So you’re in favor of a progressive and unfair tax system, like we have now. That’s ok, but it’s not fair. Fairness is everyone pays the same rate. That’s the fairest way to do it. It’s about principle to me. Out of principle, everyone pays 10% of whatever they make. You do well, you take home 90% of your income. You don’t do well, you take home 90% of your income. Fair. If you don’t do well, and take home 120% of your income, but another family does a little better, but takes home 68% of their income, that’s not fair.
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Re: Flat tax rate?
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02/25/20 02:54 PM
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Because 10% of a persons salary that makes $20K a year would be hurt more than a person who makes $200K a year. That's why a federal sales tax makes more sense. Someone making $24k a year spends less than someone making $140k a year. Do away with income tax and move to a consumption tax, even people paid under the table will contribute. Fair Tax is a national sales tax and I really liked the idea after I read the book. It’s worth a read and I’m sure you can find it on amazon still. Very interring proposal.
I just turned it on . I was looking bird dogs in the butt this morning.
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Re: Flat tax rate?
[Re: KWood_TSU]
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02/25/20 02:56 PM
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For reference. Federal Income Tax Only
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Re: Flat tax rate?
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02/25/20 02:57 PM
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Wait no pretax deductions? No deductions of any type. Everyone pays 10%. You have to have an incentive for retirement savings, remember we have to tell people not to eat tide pods or bath salts.
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Re: Flat tax rate?
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02/25/20 02:59 PM
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Wait no pretax deductions? No deductions of any type. Everyone pays 10%. You have to have an incentive for retirement savings, remember we have to tell people not to eat tide pods or bath salts. Makes it kind of hopeless when put it in that perspective
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Re: Flat tax rate?
[Re: Mike W]
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02/25/20 03:00 PM
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Repeal the Federal Reserve Act, repeal the 16th amendment, live in peace and prosperity. Do your research learn the history.
This cannot be fixed at the voting booth.. Wake Up You Morons!
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Re: Flat tax rate?
[Re: KWood_TSU]
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02/25/20 03:05 PM
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I’m in on a 10-15% flat tax. But it has to be everybody, no deductions. EVERYONE
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Re: Flat tax rate?
[Re: KWood_TSU]
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02/25/20 03:08 PM
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Curious, do most support a flat tax because they feel the lower income is not paying their fair share or higher income is paying too much?
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Re: Flat tax rate?
[Re: KWood_TSU]
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02/25/20 03:14 PM
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Flat 20-25% get rid of the IRS.
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Re: Flat tax rate?
[Re: Paluxy]
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02/25/20 03:18 PM
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Wait no pretax deductions? No deductions of any type. Everyone pays 10%. You have to have an incentive for retirement savings, remember we have to tell people not to eat tide pods or bath salts. Makes it kind of hopeless when put it in that perspective That was my exact thought....thanks for that nugget Bobo
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Re: Flat tax rate?
[Re: Paluxy]
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02/25/20 03:25 PM
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Curious, do most support a flat tax because they feel the lower income is not paying their fair share or higher income is paying too much? I think I’m paying too much when I see others with a similar income cheat the system and pay less than half what I do. I have a coworker who makes a good living, but him and his wife claims she lives somewhere else and claims their child. She gets a small fortune from the IRS (me&you) and free schooling for her and the kid on grants. Meanwhile, he made almost 100K last year, and she’s an LVN going to RN school.
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Re: Flat tax rate?
[Re: Paluxy]
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02/25/20 03:28 PM
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Curious, do most support a flat tax because they feel the lower income is not paying their fair share or higher income is paying too much? Both, honestly. It would be a huge band-aid to rip off because it would cost 90% of the IRS workers their jobs, and untold accountants/tax advisors/etc. theirs as well. There is a ton of the economy wrapped up in tax services in some form or fashion. But in the long run it makes a ton of sense. Which is precisely why it won't happen-too much upheaval, poors actually having to pay, no way to weaponize it going forward for political gain.
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Re: Flat tax rate?
[Re: KWood_TSU]
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02/25/20 03:28 PM
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Remember when they had the luxury tax? The politicians simply spent it on luxuries for themselves. I'm not making this up. Look it up.
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Re: Flat tax rate?
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02/25/20 03:32 PM
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Is you people's idea or a flat income tax in addition to Social Security?
Even if so or if not, don't think it will work. Progressive taxes keep the elites in power. They have to make sure the have nots get or keep just enough to keep them from rioting, taking control and upsetting the "system"..
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