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Info asked by seller when selling gun
#7746077
02/14/20 06:38 PM
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tskin
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No digs at anyone that does, but what is purpose of seeing Drivers license or LTC or requiring bill of sale when doing a private/non dealer sale to another individual?
Thanks for explaining.
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Re: Info asked by seller when selling gun
[Re: tskin]
#7746078
02/14/20 06:39 PM
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TurkeyHunter
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Peace of mind that hopefully you're not selling to someone who should not have a firearm.
The other part is a paper trail.
To be determined
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Re: Info asked by seller when selling gun
[Re: tskin]
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02/14/20 06:40 PM
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BigPig
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Makes them feel better.
Had a guy in here a few years back that would only sell me the gun if I went to a FFL and completed the paper work. He didn’t care that I was a LEO, he thought that was a sure fire way to make sure the gun wasn’t in his name.
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Re: Info asked by seller when selling gun
[Re: BigPig]
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02/14/20 06:41 PM
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bigbob_ftw
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Makes them feel better.
Had a guy in here a few years back that would only sell me the gun if I went to a FFL and completed the paper work. He didn’t care that I was a LEO, he thought that was a sure fire way to make sure the gun wasn’t in his name. you could be a mass murderer posing as a cop. just saying.
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Re: Info asked by seller when selling gun
[Re: tskin]
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02/14/20 06:44 PM
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redchevy
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Ive never asked anything... but ive never sold a gun either.
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: Info asked by seller when selling gun
[Re: tskin]
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02/14/20 06:44 PM
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tskin
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Thanks BP and TH. That’s kinda what I thought. I pass by those that require such even if interested in their item.
I know that can sell however they wish and that’s fine.
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Re: Info asked by seller when selling gun
[Re: tskin]
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02/14/20 06:47 PM
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QuitShootinYoungBucks
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I’m leery of giving ID info but will and have done it. In the end, I’m not the criminal.
https://web.archive.org/web/20170223065011/http:/www.rrdvegas.com/silencer-cleaning.html
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Re: Info asked by seller when selling gun
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
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02/14/20 07:18 PM
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Mike W
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Peace of mind that hopefully you're not selling to someone who should not have a firearm.
The other part is a paper trail. Bingo. I had an experience several years ago that could have gotten ugly if I did not have all the buyers info on a pistol I sold.
This cannot be fixed at the voting booth.. Wake Up You Morons!
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Re: Info asked by seller when selling gun
[Re: Mike W]
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02/14/20 07:37 PM
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scalebuster
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Peace of mind that hopefully you're not selling to someone who should not have a firearm.
The other part is a paper trail. Bingo. I had an experience several years ago that could have gotten ugly if I did not have all the buyers info on a pistol I sold. How could it have gotten ugly?
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Re: Info asked by seller when selling gun
[Re: scalebuster]
#7746162
02/14/20 07:54 PM
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Mike W
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Peace of mind that hopefully you're not selling to someone who should not have a firearm.
The other part is a paper trail. Bingo. I had an experience several years ago that could have gotten ugly if I did not have all the buyers info on a pistol I sold. How could it have gotten ugly? Pistol was found in a less than savory home, where multiple felonies were being committed, authorities call me because I was the "registered owner". Up until that day, I did not know there was any kind of registry.
This cannot be fixed at the voting booth.. Wake Up You Morons!
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Re: Info asked by seller when selling gun
[Re: bigbob_ftw]
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02/14/20 07:55 PM
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TXHOGSLAYER
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Makes them feel better.
Had a guy in here a few years back that would only sell me the gun if I went to a FFL and completed the paper work. He didn’t care that I was a LEO, he thought that was a sure fire way to make sure the gun wasn’t in his name. you could be a mass murderer posing as a cop. just saying. That would certainly explain a lot...
LETS GO BRANDON
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Re: Info asked by seller when selling gun
[Re: tskin]
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02/14/20 07:56 PM
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Tin Head
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I worry about buying a gun and the seller reporting it stolen. Or just buying a flat out stolen gun.
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Re: Info asked by seller when selling gun
[Re: tskin]
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02/14/20 08:01 PM
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RayB
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I'm one that prefers sending them to an FFL, sold a shotgun to the wife's cousin, a week later LEO is calling me saying she threatened to kill someone with it If your against it, it makes me wonder what you have to hide, just saying
There is time, and you must take it, to lay your hand on your dog's head as you walk past him lying on the floor or on his settle, time to talk with him, to remember with him, time to please him, time you can't buy back once he's gone" GBE
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Re: Info asked by seller when selling gun
[Re: Mike W]
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02/14/20 08:02 PM
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Jon
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Peace of mind that hopefully you're not selling to someone who should not have a firearm.
The other part is a paper trail. Bingo. I had an experience several years ago that could have gotten ugly if I did not have all the buyers info on a pistol I sold. How could it have gotten ugly? Pistol was found in a less than savory home, where multiple felonies were being committed, authorities call me because I was the "registered owner". Up until that day, I did not know there was any kind of registry. There's not supposed to be a Federal registry per se. At least there used not to be. It involved tracking back by SN from the manufacturer, to the distributor, to the dealer FFL yellow sheet the buyer had to fill out at final transfer to individual. This may have changed by now but that's how it used to work. I know of one case that is exactly how it happened that the original buyer was located.
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Re: Info asked by seller when selling gun
[Re: tskin]
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02/14/20 08:06 PM
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As the buyer, if the gun is found to be reported stolen, I want to be able to shoe the police a bill of sale showing that I purchased it. As a seller, the law requires that you do not sell the gun to someone who is not legally allowed to own it. If I see an LTC, I KNOW that they can own it.
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Re: Info asked by seller when selling gun
[Re: unclebubba]
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02/14/20 08:11 PM
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Tin Head
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As the buyer, if the gun is found to be reported stolen, I want to be able to shoe the police a bill of sale showing that I purchased it. As a seller, the law requires that you do not sell the gun to someone who is not legally allowed to own it. If I see an LTC, I KNOW that they can own it. Ill start doing a bill of sale , my worries come from buying a gun and then the seller reporting it stolen.
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Re: Info asked by seller when selling gun
[Re: tskin]
#7746220
02/14/20 08:38 PM
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I’ll put it this way. Years ago I sold a pistol to someone on this page. Couple years later I get a call asking questions about it. Was found at a crime scene. Covers your backside. I rarely ask for bill of sale and was dang sure glad I had a bill of sale.
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Re: Info asked by seller when selling gun
[Re: jhenderson]
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02/14/20 08:57 PM
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KRoyal
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I’ll put it this way. Years ago I sold a pistol to someone on this page. Couple years later I get a call asking questions about it. Was found at a crime scene. Covers your backside. I rarely ask for bill of sale and was dang sure glad I had a bill of sale. On this page as in this particular thread? who's the THF Gangsta?
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Re: Info asked by seller when selling gun
[Re: KRoyal]
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02/14/20 09:06 PM
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TXHOGSLAYER
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I’ll put it this way. Years ago I sold a pistol to someone on this page. Couple years later I get a call asking questions about it. Was found at a crime scene. Covers your backside. I rarely ask for bill of sale and was dang sure glad I had a bill of sale. On this page as in this particular thread? who's the THF Gangsta? My vote is BP, probably his throw away....
LETS GO BRANDON
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Re: Info asked by seller when selling gun
[Re: tskin]
#7746255
02/14/20 09:09 PM
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Mike W
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I’ll put it this way. Years ago I sold a pistol to someone on this page. Couple years later I get a call asking questions about it. Was found at a crime scene. Covers your backside. I rarely ask for bill of sale and was dang sure glad I had a bill of sale. Same thing I went through, a buyer from this site. There's not supposed to be a Federal registry per se. At least there used not to be. It involved tracking back by SN from the manufacturer, to the distributor, to the dealer FFL yellow sheet the buyer had to fill out at final transfer to individual. This may have changed by now but that's how it used to work. I know of one case that is exactly how it happened that the original buyer was located. I can tell you this, once you fill out the form you better document the sale of that gun very well. They had a deputy at my house and my wife called me on my cell phone.
This cannot be fixed at the voting booth.. Wake Up You Morons!
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Re: Info asked by seller when selling gun
[Re: Mike W]
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02/14/20 09:45 PM
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When I was a dealer I always put my private sales on somebody elses 4473s..................... thinking in the back of my head...............suckersssssssssssssss
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Re: Info asked by seller when selling gun
[Re: tskin]
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02/14/20 10:27 PM
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I prefer a bill of sale when buying or selling a firearm. I also prefer to see a LTC or deal with a LEO
I keep a list of guns I have sold and who I sold them to.
A paper trail on a firearm is just plain common sense in today’s world.
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Re: Info asked by seller when selling gun
[Re: tskin]
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02/14/20 10:40 PM
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For one I am selling: If it is a firearm that I have filled out paperwork on when I bought it, I will ask for ID just to see how the person acts. If they get squirrelly about showing me an ID, I pass on the deal.
If it is one I have not done any paperwork on, I will grab the cash and beat them out of the parking lot before they have time to change their mind.
For one I am buying: I will ask for their ID just to see how the person acts. If they get squirrelly about showing me an ID, I pass on the deal.
Funny thing about getting older: Your eyesight starts getting weaker but your ability to see through people's BS gets much better.
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Re: Info asked by seller when selling gun
[Re: unclebubba]
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02/14/20 11:20 PM
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As the buyer, if the gun is found to be reported stolen, I want to be able to shoe the police a bill of sale showing that I purchased it. As a seller, the law requires that you do not sell the gun to someone who is not legally allowed to own it. If I see an LTC, I KNOW that they can own it. Someone in possession of a LTC doesn't guarantee they can legally possess a firearm. Most people who have them suspended or revoked, don't surrender the actual card back to DPS as they are required to.
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Re: Info asked by seller when selling gun
[Re: tskin]
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02/15/20 12:10 AM
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Don’t even recall who it was anymore. Wasn’t anyone that was really active.
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