Forums46
Topics538,021
Posts9,731,919
Members87,055
|
Most Online25,604 Feb 12th, 2024
|
|
|
.277 Fury......anybody?
#7693959
12/20/19 04:11 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 33,977
Buzzsaw
OP
THF Celebrity
|
OP
THF Celebrity
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 33,977 |
Just saw SIG is coming out with a new rifle chambered in this caliber. .277 PRC??? 6.8 on steroids???
another new caliber coming, Figures are pretty impressive. 135gr @ 3,000fps from 16" barrel, .488 G1, 140gr @ 2950fps , .508 G1, 16" Barrel.......both are right at 2700 ft. lbs. muzzel...
do i need one? he77 no...
do you?
Last edited by Buzzsaw; 12/20/19 04:16 PM.
SPACE FOR RENT
|
|
|
Re: .277 Fury......anybody?
[Re: Buzzsaw]
#7693964
12/20/19 04:14 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 39,549
redchevy
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 39,549 |
277 prc… is this a 6.5 prc necked up?
It's hell eatin em live
|
|
|
Re: .277 Fury......anybody?
[Re: Buzzsaw]
#7694118
12/20/19 06:13 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 33,977
Buzzsaw
OP
THF Celebrity
|
OP
THF Celebrity
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 33,977 |
SPACE FOR RENT
|
|
|
Re: .277 Fury......anybody?
[Re: Buzzsaw]
#7694295
12/20/19 08:38 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 22,716
BigPig
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 22,716 |
I’m wanting to see one in person. The owner of Q is already talking [censored] about it, guess he can’t handle competition and apparently his customer service sucks.
|
|
|
Re: .277 Fury......anybody?
[Re: Buzzsaw]
#7694418
12/20/19 10:43 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 5,175
scottfromdallas
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 5,175 |
Wow. Finally sone coming out with a lightweight chassis rifle for hunting.
I'm sure the 277 Fury is 6.8X51 round they developed for the military trials. I think it's a necked down 308 with a steeper shoulder. .277x51 AI?
|
|
|
Re: .277 Fury......anybody?
[Re: BigPig]
#7694421
12/20/19 10:46 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 5,175
scottfromdallas
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 5,175 |
I’m wanting to see one in person. The owner of Q is already talking [censored] about it, guess he can’t handle competition and apparently his customer service sucks. Probably because it's 1/2 the price of his.
|
|
|
Re: .277 Fury......anybody?
[Re: Buzzsaw]
#7694491
12/21/19 12:13 AM
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 35,129
Brother in-law
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 35,129 |
Round sounds cool, I could do without the dumb chassis
Looks like it’s a big slap back in Q’s face
|
|
|
Re: .277 Fury......anybody?
[Re: Buzzsaw]
#7716311
01/13/20 03:57 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 15,645
QuitShootinYoungBucks
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 15,645 |
Most complete article I've seen about how they make the ammo work. SIAP https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/277-sig-fury-demystified/So they basically took a .308, hacked the case, sized it to .277 and loaded a powder that gets them 80k psi and the resulting velocity. I still can't fathom what they think they can coat the barrel with that will have it lasting beyond 600-1,000 rounds (my number, not theirs), if that.
https://web.archive.org/web/20170223065011/http:/www.rrdvegas.com/silencer-cleaning.html
|
|
|
Re: .277 Fury......anybody?
[Re: scottfromdallas]
#7716352
01/13/20 04:36 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 8,841
DocHorton
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 8,841 |
I’m wanting to see one in person. The owner of Q is already talking [censored] about it, guess he can’t handle competition and apparently his customer service sucks. Probably because it's 1/2 the price of his. One of the biggest douches in the gun industry, IMO. Some of their products are cool, but I refuse to buy any because he's such a di--head. Can't wait to see this new Sig Rifle.
|
|
|
Re: .277 Fury......anybody?
[Re: Buzzsaw]
#7716374
01/13/20 05:05 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 9,934
unclebubba
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 9,934 |
.277 bullet at around 3000fps in a 16" barrel in a short action cartridge. Forgive my ignorance if I'm wrong, but wouldn't you end up with pretty much the same thing if you shortened the barrel of a .270 WSM?
|
|
|
Re: .277 Fury......anybody?
[Re: Buzzsaw]
#7716399
01/13/20 05:17 PM
|
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 4,073
RedSnake
Extreme Tracker
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 4,073 |
I’ve thought about necking up the 6.5 PRC to a 6.8 to push a 170 Berger. Case capacity is a fair bit lower than 270 WSM. Advantages would be better / more avail 6.5 PRC brass, more efficient case design, and easier on the throat than the 270 wsm. Just not enough high bc bullet options.
But a 7mm PRC... I was just talking to Derrick at horizon firearms and he recently did a 7-6.5 PRC in his personal rifle. Pushing 175 eldx at 2800 out of a 22” barrel suppressed. This beats my 280ai out of a 25” with exact same powder charge of h4831sc. Would make a nice light weight, easy handling mountain rifle
|
|
|
Re: .277 Fury......anybody?
[Re: BigPig]
#7716400
01/13/20 05:19 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 9,835
The Dude Abides
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 9,835 |
I’m wanting to see one in person. The owner of Q is already talking [censored] about it, guess he can’t handle competition and apparently his customer service sucks. Yes he has. He used to work for Sig years ago. The guy is a total douche bag, you should see some of the posts he's made on Snipers Hide. Snipers Hide Q
Last edited by TXGUNNER308; 01/13/20 05:21 PM.
I am still looking for the perfect apron, one with reinforced knee areas would be perfect.
|
|
|
Re: .277 Fury......anybody?
[Re: RedSnake]
#7716411
01/13/20 05:23 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 39,549
redchevy
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 39,549 |
I’ve thought about necking up the 6.5 PRC to a 6.8 to push a 170 Berger. Case capacity is a fair bit lower than 270 WSM. Advantages would be better / more avail 6.5 PRC brass, more efficient case design, and easier on the throat than the 270 wsm. Just not enough high bc bullet options.
But a 7mm PRC... I was just talking to Derrick at horizon firearms and he recently did a 7-6.5 PRC in his personal rifle. Pushing 175 eldx at 2800 out of a 22” barrel suppressed. This beats my 280ai out of a 25” with exact same powder charge of h4831sc. Would make a nice light weight, easy handling mountain rifle What is the difference in case capacity of the 280AI and 7mm prc? Seems like possibly your load isn't taking advantage of all the case has to offer or his is just pushing the pressure envelope a little more.
It's hell eatin em live
|
|
|
Re: .277 Fury......anybody?
[Re: redchevy]
#7716430
01/13/20 05:34 PM
|
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 4,073
RedSnake
Extreme Tracker
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 4,073 |
I’ve thought about necking up the 6.5 PRC to a 6.8 to push a 170 Berger. Case capacity is a fair bit lower than 270 WSM. Advantages would be better / more avail 6.5 PRC brass, more efficient case design, and easier on the throat than the 270 wsm. Just not enough high bc bullet options.
But a 7mm PRC... I was just talking to Derrick at horizon firearms and he recently did a 7-6.5 PRC in his personal rifle. Pushing 175 eldx at 2800 out of a 22” barrel suppressed. This beats my 280ai out of a 25” with exact same powder charge of h4831sc. Would make a nice light weight, easy handling mountain rifle Seems like possibly your load isn't taking advantage of all the case has to offer or his is just pushing the pressure envelope a little more. Probably a little of both.
|
|
|
Re: .277 Fury......anybody?
[Re: The Dude Abides]
#7716452
01/13/20 05:50 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 22,716
BigPig
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 22,716 |
I’m wanting to see one in person. The owner of Q is already talking [censored] about it, guess he can’t handle competition and apparently his customer service sucks. Yes he has. He used to work for Sig years ago. The guy is a total douche bag, you should see some of the posts he's made on Snipers Hide. Snipers Hide QFrom what I understand, Sig has been working on this rifle for a long time, and Q or whateverthefuckhisnameis, was on that team to design it. He left during development and rushed his rifle to market before Sig.
|
|
|
Re: .277 Fury......anybody?
[Re: Buzzsaw]
#7716467
01/13/20 06:01 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 1,716
duckhunter175
Pro Tracker
|
Pro Tracker
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 1,716 |
They are running light for caliber bullets at velocities that create ballistic profiles achieved in short barrels with cartridges already in existence. Would they be overbore? Yes, would you need special steel/brass hybrid cases and 80k of pressure, NO.
Run the numbers-- if you can get a 6.5mm bullet of the same weight going around 2700fps from a 16" barrel it matches or beats the downrange ballistics of the Fury and does it will less wind drift and again, without some crazy case.
|
|
|
Re: .277 Fury......anybody?
[Re: BigPig]
#7716547
01/13/20 06:50 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 9,835
The Dude Abides
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 9,835 |
I’m wanting to see one in person. The owner of Q is already talking [censored] about it, guess he can’t handle competition and apparently his customer service sucks. Yes he has. He used to work for Sig years ago. The guy is a total douche bag, you should see some of the posts he's made on Snipers Hide. Snipers Hide QFrom what I understand, Sig has been working on this rifle for a long time, and Q or whateverthefuckhisnameis, was on that team to design it. He left during development and rushed his rifle to market before Sig. Same understanding. I think he's butt hurt to say the least.
I am still looking for the perfect apron, one with reinforced knee areas would be perfect.
|
|
|
Re: .277 Fury......anybody?
[Re: Buzzsaw]
#7716682
01/13/20 09:06 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 60,476
BOBO the Clown
kind of a big deal
|
kind of a big deal
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 60,476 |
Born And Raised outdoor guys did an elk hunt with rifle and caliber this year, it’s posted on YouTube. Dead elk but don’t see it as magical
|
|
|
Re: .277 Fury......anybody?
[Re: duckhunter175]
#7716951
01/14/20 01:19 AM
|
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 5,175
scottfromdallas
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 5,175 |
They are running light for caliber bullets at velocities that create ballistic profiles achieved in short barrels with cartridges already in existence. Would they be overbore? Yes, would you need special steel/brass hybrid cases and 80k of pressure, NO.
Run the numbers-- if you can get a 6.5mm bullet of the same weight going around 2700fps from a 16" barrel it matches or beats the downrange ballistics of the Fury and does it will less wind drift and again, without some crazy case. Military wants a 6.8! They know best. I wonder what the ballistics are on the polymer cased entries.
|
|
|
Re: .277 Fury......anybody?
[Re: Buzzsaw]
#7717245
01/14/20 05:07 AM
|
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 33,977
Buzzsaw
OP
THF Celebrity
|
OP
THF Celebrity
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 33,977 |
I'm getting one of the rifles ordered with ammo. Not sure how long it will be. Ordering a 4" Python too
SPACE FOR RENT
|
|
|
Re: .277 Fury......anybody?
[Re: Buzzsaw]
#7717389
01/14/20 01:34 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 5,175
scottfromdallas
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 5,175 |
I thought you were going on hunts.
|
|
|
Re: .277 Fury......anybody?
[Re: Buzzsaw]
#7717394
01/14/20 01:39 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 33,977
Buzzsaw
OP
THF Celebrity
|
OP
THF Celebrity
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 33,977 |
SPACE FOR RENT
|
|
|
Re: .277 Fury......anybody?
[Re: Buzzsaw]
#7717415
01/14/20 01:56 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 5,175
scottfromdallas
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 5,175 |
I like the rifle Buzz. It's going to spark the next new hot thing which will be lightweight chassis hunting rifles. Everyone will have a model out soon because it makes so much sense.
|
|
|
Moderated by bigbob_ftw, CCBIRDDOGMAN, Chickenman, Derek, DeRico, Duck_Hunter, hetman, jeh7mmmag, JustWingem, kmon11, kry226, kwrhuntinglab, Payne, pertnear, rifleman, sig226fan (Rguns.com), Superduty, TreeBass, txcornhusker
|