Fixed freaking focus.

MSRP $2899.

Pass

For what it is it should be interesting...

Comparing to nx8 it will have 34mm, reticle with wind marks, .1mil vs .2 mil, capped turrets

It’s closer to atacr but has a bit more mag and a few hundred cheaper


Optically if it’s good it should sell very well. The gen 2 1-6 is considered one of the better lpvo and this should be an improvement

For what it is it should be interesting...

Comparing to nx8 it will have 34mm, reticle with wind marks, .1mil vs .2 mil, capped turrets

It’s closer to atacr but has a bit more mag and a few hundred cheaper


Optically if it’s good it should sell very well. The gen 2 1-6 is considered one of the better lpvo and this should be an improvement

But it's still not the ATACR, at this price point NFS all the way.

Atacr is 2800. This will be 2k and should be closer to 1900-1800 after they are available. Is it worth 50% more?

Atacr is a good scope but I am not sure what the 50% premium gets me. And for those that say build quality. Razors are built well.

Between the nx8 and the gen 3 for the same money I think the gen 3 will be a better offering but it remains to be seen

Everyone talks about Vortex's warranty because everyone has used it.


Not the case with NF.

Yeah, Razors might outsell ATACRs. Cheaper, great warranty. Some of us don't want to break down in the first place.

Of course you've used the Vortex warranty, that's my point.

So here is a funny...my NF benchrest 12x42 scopes have all been replaced with Vortex Golden Eagles 15x60's. Also have, two PST gen1's and carry Fury binos. I also owned one of their rangefinders that I sold when I bought the Fury’s and a razor spotting scope that I replaced with a Nightforce TS-82.

Never sent a Vortex in but I have sent a Nightforce (parallax laid down). To be fair, I don’t treat my stuff like a tool I use it and respect things for what they cost. Not a thing wrong with that, different people do different things....you paid for yours and I paid for mine.

My point...Vortex is a serviceable product and especially if your a user like me.

Look at these Vortex fans telling how good Vortex took care of them after their optics were F-ed up.

And then in the world of the internet, I see people asking "how does Night Force treat you, if you need warranty work?" People ask because it is so rare for one to break. I don't intentionally treat my stuff roughly, but shootong and hunting, things happen. And you do that every week, and it adds up. Plus, I get a long way from the house with rifle and scope. Reliability is paramount. Is there better glass than NF, yes. Is there a tougher optic? In my opinion, no.

Look at it this way. If you were sent to Iran next week with your rifle and scope, would you rather take the one the Manufacturer is going to be easy to deal with after it breaks, or would you take the one that isn't going to break in the first place.

Yall don't let Judd fool you, he has a hook-up on Vortex optics as far as price goes. If he was paying retail he probably wouldn't have as many of them.