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Re: They won't take your guns, you'll turn them in!
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09/25/19 08:52 PM
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The article seems to hinge on the idea that the government could compile a list of firearms that someone might possibly own (including from such things as whether someone had googled info about a particular gun), and would then force every person in the United States to prove that they did not, in fact, still "own" those guns, under penalty of, among other things, having your children imprisoned. So a gun control advocate who had googled AR-15's for an article they were writing would be forced to somehow prove they did not actually own an AR-15? Yeah, either the government would need to take people at their word, or they would need to freeze assets of a heck of alot of people.
Personally, my answers would be a mix of "never bought that gun", "sold it", and "yep, still have it". Given the amount of guns I research, at least half of their list would be in the first category. Oh, and I'll gladly turn in THE AR-15 that I am buying accessories and ammo for online. As long as they don't worry about the 3 other AR's sitting in the back of the gun safe.
Bottom line - There is no way that meaningful confiscation happens without door to door searches against a huge percentage of the population. And there are plenty of places for determined owners to stash weapons far from their homes. Exactly how big is Sam Houston National Forest, again?
I'm also confused. Aren't these the same folks telling us that civilization as we know it will be ending soon due to climate change? If they admit that we are on the verge of a total collapse of government, don't we all need every gun we can get our hands on?
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Re: They won't take your guns, you'll turn them in!
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09/26/19 12:54 AM
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300,000,000 people.
That's three hundred million. Freeze the assets of 50% of that number. and that's probably the number of gun owners. That would cripple the economy.
And as far as CPS taking kids, that is a damn good way for shots to start being fired. It would real quick turn into the civil war he is saying won't happen. There are enough people that will hold the line. There is an old Texas story of a Governor (post civil war) that was voted out of office, but refused to leave. Literally a crown of armed men marched into the Capitol building and physically removed him. Things like that could happen again.
It won't cripple the economy, because most will turn their guns in, it's not worth the hassle you know. And CPS doing that while the kids are at school makes it hard to fight. And I disagree, I don't think there are enough people to hold the line. I hope I'm wrong on that, it's just what I see. I'd be willing to bet that 75% of people that say come and take it, etc would fold over when it's time to walk the walk. I'd gladly eat crow on that because I don't want any guns to be confiscated, it's just what I see in this soft America. You're failing to imagine the chit storm that could be. CPS has offices. Get about 20 dads coming to get their kids back from one office and see what happens. You disagree on the number of people. Let's say only 1% of the population. What's 1% of three hundred million? The news could not keep up. This would be the book of Revelations come to life. I agree on the soft ones, there are far too many. The hard ones are in the shadows. However, I point you to a quote, it is not mine. Hard times make hard men. Hard men make good times. Good times make soft men. (<we are here) Soft men make hard times.
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Re: They won't take your guns, you'll turn them in!
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09/26/19 12:59 AM
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Waco would just be the tip of the iceberg if anything that article says comes true. People are real quick to forget what happens when people feel threatened by the government.
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Re: They won't take your guns, you'll turn them in!
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09/26/19 01:25 AM
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Waco would just be the tip of the iceberg if anything that article says comes true. People are real quick to forget what happens when people feel threatened by the government. Yessir. Waco Ruby Ridge Cliven Bundy Some examples of the lengths the government will go. The last one on the list, they met resistance, and resistance won, peacefully.
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Re: They won't take your guns, you'll turn them in!
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09/26/19 01:50 AM
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Waco would just be the tip of the iceberg if anything that article says comes true. People are real quick to forget what happens when people feel threatened by the government. Yessir. Waco Ruby Ridge Cliven Bundy Some examples of the lengths the government will go. The last one on the list, they met resistance, and resistance won, peacefully. Not trying to glorify crazies but don’t forget the OKC bombing. No one should underestimates what an individual or group of individuals will do when they feel threatened by the government....right wrong or other.
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Re: They won't take your guns, you'll turn them in!
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09/26/19 04:11 AM
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Won't ever happen...and most people won't have to fight. The moment some crazy gun confiscation bill passes - people will wait for the US Supreme Court to rule it unconstitutional and IF that doesn't happen and they actually started to confiscate guns... it will be a small number of people that solve the issue through violence for everyone. There are literally MILLIONS of people in private militias around the country just itching for a fight. You only need a few thousand of them willing to act, which would certainly happen. There are only 535 members of Congress - they'll be dragged out of their homes at gun point and executed in the street before anyone can do anything about it. And the people who replace them will immediately repeal any gun confiscation bill for fear of what will happen if they don't.
It really is that simple. There won't be any huge civil war over it.
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Re: They won't take your guns, you'll turn them in!
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^^This is my belief as well.
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Re: They won't take your guns, you'll turn them in!
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09/26/19 12:00 PM
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If (big IF) our government decided to do it, would be done gradually over years - a few at a time. Any full-on "attack" of such a huge segment of of our society would be political suicide because of the huge mess that it would create. Yes, it would be bloody - and they know that many of their own people would turn on them.
They will do it exactly the same way that they are effectively turning this country Socialist.
How many people are revolting over our country being dismantled now? The low information snow flakes are useful idiots for those pulling the strings.
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A Democracy is when two wolves and a lamb vote on the dinner menu. That is why this country was specifically not designed as a Democracy. We are a Constitutional Republic.
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Re: They won't take your guns, you'll turn them in!
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If (big IF) our government decided to do it, would be done gradually over years - a few at a time. Any full-on "attack" of such a huge segment of of our society would be political suicide because of the huge mess that it would create. Yes, it would be bloody - and they know that many of their own people would turn on them.
They will do it exactly the same way that they are effectively turning this country Socialist.
How many people are revolting over our country being dismantled now? The low information snow flakes are useful idiots for those pulling the strings.
Marc
I agree with this. The enemy's propaganda campaign has been going on for a while though our media and educational institutions. Just look at the percentage of people who don't even understand that the purpose of the second amendment is to provide a last ditch level of security against a tyrannical government. Heck, there are even a large number of gun owners who think it's about hunting. When you hear people say that no one should have "weapons of war" it is clear that they complete miss the entire point. The folks who want to transform this country into the next Venezuela will continue to ramp up these propaganda efforts. They will not resort to blatantly overt acts like confiscation until they have won over the vast majority of people. Fortunately, we are not there yet.
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Re: They won't take your guns, you'll turn them in!
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10/21/19 08:22 PM
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Go ahead freeze my assets, they gave me a deadline that’s their fault they didn’t freeze it before I got to it first. This article is trolling along but this person has forgotten the simple history behind America.
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Re: They won't take your guns, you'll turn them in!
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12/05/19 02:23 AM
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If (big IF) our government decided to do it, would be done gradually over years - a few at a time. Any full-on "attack" of such a huge segment of of our society would be political suicide because of the huge mess that it would create. Yes, it would be bloody - and they know that many of their own people would turn on them.
They will do it exactly the same way that they are effectively turning this country Socialist.
How many people are revolting over our country being dismantled now? The low information snow flakes are useful idiots for those pulling the strings.
Marc
The US was gone and the blue helmets and fema camps were fired up and ready for action.Remember the caravans of illegals hitting us from the south? Remember the rocket man armed up with nukes? Rocket man was set up to start ww3 , so we would be hit from that angle and then the hoards of illegals would hit us from the other side. I think a lot of folks dont realize the position we were in. 16 year plan to destroy America, the 0 was the first 8 and killary was the second 8. They werent worried about politickin because America was to be down for the count by the time she finish with us. Its , IMO , the reason that the dems are in such a panic now. Their deals were done and their beds had been made. There was not turning back for them and frankly they didnt care , they had cashed out. All that was left was to turn over the keys and fly to New Zealand.
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Re: They won't take your guns, you'll turn them in!
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12/08/19 12:32 AM
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I only wish that it was so simplistic.
A Democracy is when two wolves and a lamb vote on the dinner menu. That is why this country was specifically not designed as a Democracy. We are a Constitutional Republic.
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Re: They won't take your guns, you'll turn them in!
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12/09/19 05:49 AM
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It will come from the public school system. They have been trying to brainwash us since I was in grade school in the '80s. They will teach our children to fear guns and trust the government.
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Re: They won't take your guns, you'll turn them in!
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Re: They won't take your guns, you'll turn them in!
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12/09/19 05:51 AM
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Think about this- we see so much anti american crap in the media... well, our mainstream media outlets are basically owned by China
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Re: They won't take your guns, you'll turn them in!
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So what are they going to do? In one days time they are going to freeze the assets of every gun owner and take all of our kids from school and hold them till we surrender? Sorry I think its a crock and will never happen.
When word hits on the news social media or whatever that they are freezing assets and taking guns in New York City (insert other major metro area where it is likely to happen first because there is no way they will be able to do it all at once or even remotely all at once) all the other area will be in uproar. If people hear about it happening elsewhere I bet kids don't go to school. I do not think they have enough people to pull it off either. Think about it, the police, military etc. are comprised of a lot of gun owners.
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Re: They won't take your guns, you'll turn them in!
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A so called consipiracy theorist comments in 1991 Meanwhile they were arming the bad guys, fast and furious. So what are they going to do? In one days time they are going to freeze the assets of every gun owner and take all of our kids from school and hold them till we surrender? Sorry I think its a crock and will never happen.
When word hits on the news social media or whatever that they are freezing assets and taking guns in New York City (insert other major metro area where it is likely to happen first because there is no way they will be able to do it all at once or even remotely all at once) all the other area will be in uproar. If people hear about it happening elsewhere I bet kids don't go to school. I do not think they have enough people to pull it off either. Think about it, the police, military etc. are comprised of a lot of gun owners. Well , IMO , what they were going to do was create a civil war and have the folks go after each other. Then start ww3, remember rocket man was given nukes to start it. Have a economic collapse. Then let the third worlders invade from the south. All that sounds conspiracy theory and may be it is but with a economy collapse and the food taken away folks would gladly turn in their guns IMO.
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Re: They won't take your guns, you'll turn them in!
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Think about this- we see so much anti american crap in the media... well, our mainstream media outlets are basically owned by China I dont think china ownes are media , china is nothing more than a enforcer IMO. Our media is owned by 6 global corporations that control 90% of what we see and hear. Those 6 corps have the same agenda. Mossad controls the media.
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Re: They won't take your guns, you'll turn them in!
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Re: They won't take your guns, you'll turn them in!
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Tin Head, sounds like you might know Chuck and Anita Untersee and Charlie D?
A Democracy is when two wolves and a lamb vote on the dinner menu. That is why this country was specifically not designed as a Democracy. We are a Constitutional Republic.
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Re: They won't take your guns, you'll turn them in!
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A so called consipiracy theorist comments in 1991 Meanwhile they were arming the bad guys, fast and furious. So what are they going to do? In one days time they are going to freeze the assets of every gun owner and take all of our kids from school and hold them till we surrender? Sorry I think its a crock and will never happen.
When word hits on the news social media or whatever that they are freezing assets and taking guns in New York City (insert other major metro area where it is likely to happen first because there is no way they will be able to do it all at once or even remotely all at once) all the other area will be in uproar. If people hear about it happening elsewhere I bet kids don't go to school. I do not think they have enough people to pull it off either. Think about it, the police, military etc. are comprised of a lot of gun owners. Well , IMO , what they were going to do was create a civil war and have the folks go after each other. Then start ww3, remember rocket man was given nukes to start it. Have a economic collapse. Then let the third worlders invade from the south. All that sounds conspiracy theory and may be it is but with a economy collapse and the food taken away folks would gladly turn in their guns IMO. No that isn't conspiracy theory stuff, that is straight up tin foil hat fiction.
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Re: They won't take your guns, you'll turn them in!
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Well , IMO , what they were going to do was create a civil war and have the folks go after each other. Then start ww3, remember rocket man was given nukes to start it. Have a economic collapse. Then let the third worlders invade from the south.
Hades most of that has happened.......it aint theory. Something big is brewing as even the bible says so and when it all goes skywestern crooked the govt wont have a chance of controlling it.......they've lit a fuse.........KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOM .
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Re: They won't take your guns, you'll turn them in!
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No way in hell will it happen like that. First, you have Sheriff's all over the country (including my county) that have sworn to not enforce any laws that violate constitutional rights to keep and bear arms. Without local law enforcement support, no confiscation will succeed unless federal authorities are willing to also take on local law authorities. And no, there are 470 million firearms in private hands in this country. That is 1.2 for each and every person in this country. Anyone that thinks all of those will be turned in voluntarily is a damn fool. Anyone that thinks they can confiscate that many, is an even bigger fool.
Even in countries like New Zealand and Australia where bans have went into effect (not to mention our own state of California) guns have NOT been turned in.
And someone thinking federal authorities who cannot handle medical care for our vets, efficiency at the post office, ensuring everyone pays ever tax dollar they should, or even is alive to vote when their vote is cast each election period, or that everyone enters this country legally - somehow has the ability to track every gun purchase, ammo or accessory purchase and catalog it by person so they know who has what - well that person is the biggest fool of all..
None of this will happen. It doesn't have to. All they have to do is tax or ban ammo to the point you can't afford to buy it. That will render MOST peoples guns useless unless you have enough ammo to last you and yours for years. And that they can do without breaking the 2nd amendment, without confiscating anything. California is already going down this road. Since I'm calling everyone fools - anyone not stocking up now while ammo prices are the cheapest they've been in about 15 years, and doing so to the point that they and theirs will have enough ammo to last them forever....well they may live to regret not buying all they could when they could.
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Re: They won't take your guns, you'll turn them in!
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No way in hell will it happen like that. First, you have Sheriff's all over the country (including my county) that have sworn to not enforce any laws that violate constitutional rights to keep and bear arms. Without local law enforcement support, no confiscation will succeed unless federal authorities are willing to also take on local law authorities.
Earl Take a look again
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Re: They won't take your guns, you'll turn them in!
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