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Recent mass shootings: Are you reconsidering your EDC? #7571884 08/04/19 09:44 PM
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I have many pistols, but I only carry a G26 or a Kahr CM9.
Now I’m thinking of setting up my G19 Gen5 MOS for conceal carry. I would add an RMR, suppressor night sights and a light.
It won’t be a match against a rifle, but it will probably be more suitable than a G26 or CM9.

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I carry my Ruger PC-9 in the truck with 2 Glock 30 round mags as my backup.

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On foot, in public I only have 6 rounds of .45 ACP, in an XDs.

In my truck, well that's a completely different story.

I'm rolling around going to a 9mm, just for the sake of mag capacity. But this XDs rides on my belt every day, and causes no trouble in my daily life.


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For me, the purpose of a carry pistol is to protect myself and my loved ones. I am not a police officer, so that influences my weapon choice. Most concealed weapons are for close range. Now, if I was in a mall or wal-mart and heard shooting would I seek cover and try to save others? Dont want to hypothesize. Carrying concealed is always a balance between concealment & capacity and long range. We each have to make the best decision we can. My 2 cents, spend it wisely. Pray for those afected by the shootings.

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I'll never replace my P365. I've been through a bunch of EDC pistols. Some I replaced for extra capacity. Some I replaced for a smaller gun that I wouldn't be tempted to leave at home for a quick run to the store. The P365 checks all those boxes for me, so I carry it with confidence, every single time I leave the house.


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I’m not planning to run towards a mass shooter to neutralize him. But at the same time, I feel like if someone is shooting at me with a rifle, the RMR can extend the range and accuracy of my pistol.

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you need to put a LOT of time shooting with an RMR or any red dot on a pistol.. for up close stuff they slow most people way down as they are trying to "find the dot"

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I thought about this question a few years ago. What is the smallest pistol I could carry, but still be effective as a defensive weapon. The answer for me was a Glock 23 in 40 cal. It is a very shootable pistol, controllable, and accurate. I used to carry a Kahr PM40, which was too small and not as controllable, with a small magazine. I also carry an extra magazine with me for the Glock. You may never need the extra mag, but the irony of ME running out of ammo would be an irony I could never live with.


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Something to think about on the RMR or the small holographic sights. There are several shooters I know that ran these in competition. One comp we had some moisture, some small mist. Several of the pistol shooters running those optics could not shoot because moisture got on the lens and would refract the red display into many different red dots and images. Research this. It is a great optic in ideal conditions, but certainly not for me for a defensive pistol.


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Nope. G19 here.

I’ve seen enough people shoot to not be afraid of someone that is shooting up the Walmart....


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Originally Posted by ImTheReasonDovesMourn
I'll never replace my P365. I've been through a bunch of EDC pistols. Some I replaced for extra capacity. Some I replaced for a smaller gun that I wouldn't be tempted to leave at home for a quick run to the store. The P365 checks all those boxes for me, so I carry it with confidence, every single time I leave the house.


Same here! Love the 365!


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"You may never need the extra mag, but the irony of ME running out of ammo would be an irony I could never live with."

Lol, that would be hard.

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Nighthawk Heine Lady Hawk .45 ACP. Almost feels ghey saying that. But she'll get the job done.


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Originally Posted by fouzman
Nighthawk Heine Lady Hawk .45 ACP. Almost feels ghey saying that. But she'll get the job done.



Surely not as ghey as saying "nerodia rhombifer" rofl


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in a mass shooting. you fire at the perp and all 30/ 55gr fmjs are coning your way. your 365 will do nothing so be prepared to die. on the good side you may give the sheep more time to get the heck out of there.


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in a mass shooting. you fire at the perp and all 30/ 55gr fmjs are coning your way. your 365 will do nothing so be prepared to die. on the good side you may give the sheep more time to get the heck out of there.



Why would you assume that you shooting the perp would not stop him/her. You’re contributing to the IGNORANCE that it’s an evil weapon and can’t be defeated. It has 30 rounds to your 16-20. Must be evil. This is the second time I’ve saw this on here in two days from two different people. “You can’t defeat him, he has an assault rifle”. [censored] ignorance!

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Originally Posted by FiremanJG
On foot, in public I only have 6 rounds of .45 ACP, in an XDs.


Same. Which holster and belt?


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Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
in a mass shooting. you fire at the perp and all 30/ 55gr fmjs are coning your way. your 365 will do nothing so be prepared to die. on the good side you may give the sheep more time to get the heck out of there.


Yeah... I’ve seen people shoot. Most can’t hit the broad side of a barn.


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On foot, in public I only have 6 rounds of .45 ACP, in an XDs.


Same. Which holster and belt?


Holster made by Matt ("East"), clips made by me out of aluminum. Belt is the latest fairly heavy duty leather one I'm wearing.


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in a mass shooting. you fire at the perp and all 30/ 55gr fmjs are coning your way. your 365 will do nothing so be prepared to die. on the good side you may give the sheep more time to get the heck out of there.



Why would you assume that you shooting the perp would not stop him/her. You’re contributing to the IGNORANCE that it’s an evil weapon and can’t be defeated. It has 30 rounds to your 16-20. Must be evil. This is the second time I’ve saw this on here in two days from two different people. “You can’t defeat him, he has an assault rifle”. [censored] ignorance!

good luck to you if you try to take on a rifle with a pop gun across a mall courtyard, ignorance is on you, i said, if you would read the post, "you fire AT the perp. not shooting the perp. idiot, welcome the dead hero wp75169

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On foot, in public I only have 6 rounds of .45 ACP, in an XDs.


Same. Which holster and belt?


Holster made by Matt ("East"), clips made by me out of aluminum. Belt is the latest fairly heavy duty leather one I'm wearing.


Nice. I have two FFR holsters and wear a rigger belt or a 1.5" thick Columbia belt.

Despite the weight of the gun, I find it to be a PITA to carry and because of the printing.

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in a mass shooting. you fire at the perp and all 30/ 55gr fmjs are coning your way. your 365 will do nothing so be prepared to die. on the good side you may give the sheep more time to get the heck out of there.



Why would you assume that you shooting the perp would not stop him/her. You’re contributing to the IGNORANCE that it’s an evil weapon and can’t be defeated. It has 30 rounds to your 16-20. Must be evil. This is the second time I’ve saw this on here in two days from two different people. “You can’t defeat him, he has an assault rifle”. [censored] ignorance!

good luck to you if you try to take on a rifle with a pop gun across a mall courtyard, ignorance is on you, i said, if you would read the post, "you fire AT the perp. not shooting the perp. idiot, welcome the dead hero wp75169


Guess we’re looking at it differently. I wouldn't stand at the other end of a football field firing my pistol at someone with a rifle. Walmart is not a coliseum or something. Continue with your evil black gun theory and I’ll hold my own council though.

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When I first moved to TX I went from a G23 to a G42 for the weight and size savings--- I still carry the G42 with +2 on the mags when it is just me running around town in shorts/t-shirt or other attire where printing might be an issue.

For longer trips or when I'm with family I'm carrying a G19 gen 5 now. I have EDC holsters for w/ or w/o my TLR1HL. Factory length mag in the gun and G17+4 available either on me or nearby. Also allows me to use my duty mags interchangeably.

As for the decision to engage against an active shooter- lots of factors are play and folks need to be honest with themselves on their skills and abilities. However- the numbers show that the majority of mass shooters don't intend to escape alive and most actually die by their own hand once they are engaged. The quicker they are engaged the quicker they are to go out like the cowardly bastards they really are. Knowing that certainly plays into my decision making.

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I’m not engaging the rifle at anything beyond 50-60 feet unless he is engaging me. I’m looking to protect myself first and foremost. If I start shooting, nobody knows if I’m a GGWAG or another perp. Not only do I instantly become his target if I shoot at him, I become a target for any LEO or anybody else w a gun. Now, if he within 10-15 yards and I have a good shot and am very likely to be shot at momentarily, I am most definitely shooting at him.


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