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Hunting With Match Bullets On Purpose #7404653 01/15/19 12:17 AM
Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,993 Greenville, TX I ImTheReasonDovesMourn OP Snarky Mark
OP ImTheReasonDovesMourn Snarky Mark I Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,993 Greenville, TX	Does anyone hunt big animals with match (target) bullets to intentionally get the explosiveness of a bullet like an A-MAX or a Nosler BT? I can see certain applications where it would make sense. Last edited by ImTheReasonDovesMourn; 01/15/19 12:46 AM. Originally Posted by KRoyal Haha yea I polished that thing for hours.

Re: Hunting With Match Ammo On Purpose [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn] #7404678 01/15/19 12:40 AM
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 18,954 Lewisville, TX C ChadTRG42 THF Celebrity
ChadTRG42 THF Celebrity C Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 18,954 Lewisville, TX	Define match ammo? Match ammo to me is ammo that is loaded to very tight tolerances to be very consistent, where you could shoot it in competition. Match ammo could be loaded with a hunting bullet, bonded bullet, BTHP, or something specific. I like to load my competition ammo with a hunting bullet so it can be used as dual purpose. In my 308, I like the 180 grain Elite Hunter at 2702 fps. In my 6.5, I like the 140 VLD-H at 2740 fps. In my 7mm/300 WM, I run the 195 Elite Hunter for ultra long range. All of which would be considered match ammo, and hunt with it. Custom and Precision Ammunition!! https://DallasReloads.com/ Type 01 and Type 06 FFL

Re: Hunting With Match Ammo On Purpose [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn] #7404683 01/15/19 12:45 AM
Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,993 Greenville, TX I ImTheReasonDovesMourn OP Snarky Mark
OP ImTheReasonDovesMourn Snarky Mark I Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,993 Greenville, TX	I should've said a match bullet. A-MAX, V-MAX, SMK, ELD Match, Nosler BT, Beger Hybrid.....you know about boolits. Originally Posted by KRoyal Haha yea I polished that thing for hours.

Re: Hunting With Match Ammo On Purpose [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn] #7404688 01/15/19 12:48 AM
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 919 G Gemlin Tracker
Gemlin Tracker G Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 919	168 A-Max in 308 works really well on deer and hogs. It used to be listed in hornadys book for light skinned game.

Re: Hunting With Match Ammo On Purpose [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn] #7404691 01/15/19 12:50 AM
Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 29,608 Weatherford, TX S Sneaky THF Celebrity
Sneaky THF Celebrity S Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 29,608 Weatherford, TX	I do in my Grendel. The SMK was lacking, but the A-Max and ELD-M have been great. They aren�t explosive, due to the velocity, I reckon.

Re: Hunting With Match Ammo On Purpose [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn] #7404703 01/15/19 01:05 AM
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 4,755 C ccoker Extreme Tracker
ccoker Extreme Tracker C Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 4,755	I have used Amax and Vmax quite a bit Loved the 178 Amax out of a 308 for both steel and game Hunted this weekend and shot 2 does in the head and a pig behind the ear with 87g Vmax out of my 6mm Creedmoor. Suffice it to say I watched all of them drop in the scope! www.TacticalGunReview.com www.TexasOutDoorsnetwork.com Need IT help? www.weavertech.us

Re: Hunting With Match Ammo On Purpose [Re: Sneaky] #7404704 01/15/19 01:05 AM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 32,506 Texas kmon11 junior
kmon11 junior Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 32,506 Texas	Originally Posted by Sneaky I do in my Grendel. The SMK was lacking, but the A-Max and ELD-M have been great. They aren�t explosive, due to the velocity, I reckon. Stll have some A-Max loaded up in the Grendel. very good hunting bullet at the GRR velocities lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch

Re: Hunting With Match Ammo On Purpose [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn] #7404706 01/15/19 01:06 AM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 41,173 Wolfe City, TX J.G. THF Celebrity
J.G. THF Celebrity Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 41,173 Wolfe City, TX	A-Max is a hunting and target bullet as fas as I'm concerned. I've launched thousands of them, many into animals. None walked away. SMK is prolly real good on hogs. Hit one spike with it one time. He walked about 50 yards and piled up, but historically there's no telling what they'll do on vitals. On brainstem, I wouldn't hesitate to use them. ELD-M I don't know, but I would not bet against them. Especially the 6.5mm 147 gr. 800 Yard Steel Range Precision Rifle Instruction Memberships and Classes Available

Re: Hunting With Match Ammo On Purpose [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn] #7404716 01/15/19 01:16 AM
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,219 Red River way D dee THF Trophy Hunter
dee THF Trophy Hunter D Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,219 Red River way	I use Berger target vld in my 22 creed and have 88gr eld loaded to try out. Killed tons of critters with 162gr amax/eldm with 7mm7mm-08ai. Have killed several pigs with 6mm 105gr Berger hybrids and the trauma was substantial. "A vote is like a rifle; it's usefulness depends on the character of the user" Theodore Roosevelt

Re: Hunting With Match Ammo On Purpose [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn] #7404722 01/15/19 01:24 AM
Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 15,569 Chambers County T TexFlip THF Celebrity
TexFlip THF Celebrity T Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 15,569 Chambers County	All I shoot from my 6.5 CM is match ammo. 120 grain A-max on a 170lb axis. Originally Posted by unclebubba Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.

Re: Hunting With Match Ammo On Purpose [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn] #7404736 01/15/19 01:40 AM
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 4,755 C ccoker Extreme Tracker
ccoker Extreme Tracker C Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 4,755	I probably won't ever use a more "traditional" match bullet like a Sierra Matchking on game, maybe pigs of course. I would be happy if I just ran ELDX in every rifle for everything www.TacticalGunReview.com www.TexasOutDoorsnetwork.com Need IT help? www.weavertech.us

Re: Hunting With Match Ammo On Purpose [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn] #7404763 01/15/19 02:05 AM
Joined: May 2016 Posts: 352 Lewisville, TX C cblackall Bird Dog
cblackall Bird Dog C Joined: May 2016 Posts: 352 Lewisville, TX	I run the 140 A-MAX in a 6.5 Creedmoor, and the 162 ELD-M in my 7-08. Both dual purpose (target/hunting) rifles. In my 7-08 I wrestled back and forth between the ELD-M and X. I ultimately decided on the M, based on my targeted muzzle velocity of 2650 fps. I already knew the A-MAX worked, and decided that a softer bullet should give optimal results. At modest velocities, I�ve found them to perform similar to a standard cup and core with a much better BC. Nine animals have been taken with my 7-08 shooting the ELD-M in the past 14 months. Two coyotes, six whitetails, and a cow elk ranging from 60-300 yds. The bullet performed flawlessly in all cases. The elk was shot at 300 yds, and a perfectly mushroomed bullet recovered in the offside hide.

Re: Hunting With Match Ammo On Purpose [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn] #7404775 01/15/19 02:14 AM
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,959 Azle, TX C cxjcherokec Veteran Tracker
cxjcherokec Veteran Tracker C Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,959 Azle, TX	Both deer this year DRT with a 168 gr smk from the 308.

Re: Hunting With Match Ammo On Purpose [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn] #7404798 01/15/19 02:32 AM
Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,993 Greenville, TX I ImTheReasonDovesMourn OP Snarky Mark
OP ImTheReasonDovesMourn Snarky Mark I Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,993 Greenville, TX	Ya'll are kind of confirming what I thought would happen if I ran a 168 ELD Match at 2750 or so from a short 308. Hornady doesn't make an ELD-X in the 160 class, so I figured the Match would perform pretty well at lower velocities and I could take advantage of the high bc in the 168 Match. Originally Posted by KRoyal Haha yea I polished that thing for hours.

Re: Hunting With Match Ammo On Purpose [Re: cblackall] #7404799 01/15/19 02:33 AM
Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,993 Greenville, TX I ImTheReasonDovesMourn OP Snarky Mark
OP ImTheReasonDovesMourn Snarky Mark I Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,993 Greenville, TX	Originally Posted by cblackall I run the 140 A-MAX in a 6.5 Creedmoor, and the 162 ELD-M in my 7-08. Both dual purpose (target/hunting) rifles. In my 7-08 I wrestled back and forth between the ELD-M and X. I ultimately decided on the M, based on my targeted muzzle velocity of 2650 fps. I already knew the A-MAX worked, and decided that a softer bullet should give optimal results. At modest velocities, I�ve found them to perform similar to a standard cup and core with a much better BC. Nine animals have been taken with my 7-08 shooting the ELD-M in the past 14 months. Two coyotes, six whitetails, and a cow elk ranging from 60-300 yds. The bullet performed flawlessly in all cases. The elk was shot at 300 yds, and a perfectly mushroomed bullet recovered in the offside hide. That's good to know, Cody. If I run the 168s around the same speed as your 162, I can probably expect the same kind of results. Which is exactly what I'm looking for. Originally Posted by KRoyal Haha yea I polished that thing for hours.

Re: Hunting With Match Ammo On Purpose [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn] #7404819 01/15/19 02:59 AM
Joined: May 2017 Posts: 5,198 Texas S Smokey Bear THF Trophy Hunter
Smokey Bear THF Trophy Hunter S Joined: May 2017 Posts: 5,198 Texas	I have in the past and have several buddies who kill deer with the 168 gr 30 cal Sierra Match King out of a 300wm. Big exits, short easy to follow blood trails. Devastates deer and hogs and shoots tiny little groups. What's not to like? The guy that trusts what he has seen usually knows more than the guy who is repeating what he heard. I to am interested to hear which other combinations of caliber and match bullet are being used to good effect on game. Smokey Bear---Lone Star State.

Re: Hunting With Match Ammo On Purpose [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn] #7404829 01/15/19 03:10 AM
Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 4,011 NE Texas 6 68A Extreme Tracker
68A Extreme Tracker 6 Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 4,011 NE Texas	308 175smk 2630 mv.

Re: Hunting With Match Ammo On Purpose [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn] #7404831 01/15/19 03:14 AM
Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 23,177 Lake Texoma, TX Bee'z The Beedazzler
Bee'z The Beedazzler Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 23,177 Lake Texoma, TX	I shoot 168 FGMM through mine and it takes does just fine.

Re: Hunting With Match Ammo On Purpose [Re: Bee'z] #7404833 01/15/19 03:16 AM
Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,993 Greenville, TX I ImTheReasonDovesMourn OP Snarky Mark
OP ImTheReasonDovesMourn Snarky Mark I Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,993 Greenville, TX	Originally Posted by 2Beez I shoot 168 FGMM through mine and it takes does just fine. On critters? Originally Posted by KRoyal Haha yea I polished that thing for hours.

Re: Hunting With Match Ammo On Purpose [Re: 68A] #7404841 01/15/19 03:24 AM
Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,993 Greenville, TX I ImTheReasonDovesMourn OP Snarky Mark
OP ImTheReasonDovesMourn Snarky Mark I Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,993 Greenville, TX	Originally Posted by 68A 308 175smk 2630 mv. That's impressive. Originally Posted by KRoyal Haha yea I polished that thing for hours.

Re: Hunting With Match Ammo On Purpose [Re: cblackall] #7404851 01/15/19 03:34 AM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,389 Texas J joshf303 Pro Tracker
joshf303 Pro Tracker J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,389 Texas	Originally Posted by cblackall I run the 140 A-MAX in a 6.5 Creedmoor, and the 162 ELD-M in my 7-08. Both dual purpose (target/hunting) rifles. In my 7-08 I wrestled back and forth between the ELD-M and X. I ultimately decided on the M, based on my targeted muzzle velocity of 2650 fps. I already knew the A-MAX worked, and decided that a softer bullet should give optimal results. At modest velocities, Ive found them to perform similar to a standard cup and core with a much better BC. Nine animals have been taken with my 7-08 shooting the ELD-M in the past 14 months. Two coyotes, six whitetails, and a cow elk ranging from 60-300 yds. The bullet performed flawlessly in all cases. The elk was shot at 300 yds, and a perfectly mushroomed bullet recovered in the offside hide. Spot on in my experience and opinion....no hesitation from me. AMaxes, ELDMs, some Berger VLDs started at modest velocities (< 3k) in about anything I shoot anymore. Another "match" bullet I've run a bunch is the Lapua Scenar. They are a skosh harder than the 3 mentioned, but still upset very well on game at extended ranges. Run the180s in 7 SAUMs, 7 WSMs, and 7 Mags....139s have treated me very well in 6.5 SAUMs, 6.5x284s,260, and the Creamers...155s in a lightweight 308 are handy.

Re: Hunting With Match Ammo On Purpose [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn] #7404852 01/15/19 03:36 AM
Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 23,177 Lake Texoma, TX Bee'z The Beedazzler
Bee'z The Beedazzler Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 23,177 Lake Texoma, TX	Originally Posted by ImTheReasonDovesMourn Originally Posted by 2Beez I shoot 168 FGMM through mine and it takes does just fine. On critters? That Axis and whitetail I killed yes. I shot the axis a little low but she went 20 yards. WT was dead in maybe 10. WT was a shoulder shot and axis was facing straight at me. I am new at this too FYI.

Re: Hunting With Match Ammo On Purpose [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn] #7404854 01/15/19 03:39 AM
Joined: Jun 2015 Posts: 5,175 Allen, TX S scottfromdallas THF Trophy Hunter
scottfromdallas THF Trophy Hunter S Joined: Jun 2015 Posts: 5,175 Allen, TX	Nosler Ballistic Tip is a hunting bullet.

Re: Hunting With Match Ammo On Purpose [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn] #7404866 01/15/19 03:51 AM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,356 Weatherford S scot THF Trophy Hunter
scot THF Trophy Hunter S Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,356 Weatherford	All 5 of these didn�t take a step after getting ear holed by 178gr amax loaded pretty hot out of a 20� .308. Sold all my loading setup so I�ll be using Fgmm until it lets me down. Got a pig but it was running away and I shot it in the spin so really don�t know if that is any sort of sign of the hunting capability of the match king round.

Re: Hunting With Match Ammo On Purpose [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn] #7405192 01/15/19 03:56 PM
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,848 Central Texas T Texan Til I Die Extreme Tracker
Texan Til I Die Extreme Tracker T Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,848 Central Texas	I'm running the 180 ELD-M in my fast twist 7 Rem Mag. I just got it going right before deer season, so I didn't have a chance to chrono the load, but it should be just over 2900 fps. Made one very impressive kill on a coyote and have no reason to doubt it would perform similarly on deer or elk sized critters. Silver spurs and gold tequila keep me hanging on. Pretty girls and old cantinas give me shelter from the storm.

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