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Who in the world rights the Texas hunting laws?
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12/12/18 01:34 PM
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Jungleexplorer
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So I was looking up the regulations for a non-related issue and I stumbled upon this regulation in the TDPW manual. "It is a Class A misdemeanor to fail to retrieve or to keep in an edible condition a whitetail or mule deer, pronghorn antelope, or desert bighorn sheep hunted without landowner consent; from a vehicle, boat, or aircraft (including unmanned aerial vehicles); on a public road; at night; or with the aid of a light."[/i]
If that is not a mouthful, I don't know what is. I had to read it six or seven times before I began to understand what it is saying. Basically, what I understand this sentence to say is, We really don't care if you break a bunch of other laws, but we are really serious about you not wasting the meat of the animals you kill while breaking a bunch of other laws. I know that is a little sarcastic, but that is what it seems like it is saying. It saying, As long as you are going to A: Trespass (hunted without landowner consent), B: Hunt from a vehicle on a public road (illegal), C: Hunt Big Game at night (illegal), D: Spotlight for big game (illegal); as long as you are going to break all those laws, we really, REALLY don't want you to waste the meat. LOL!
Who in the world rights this stuff? No wonder people get so confused. Talk about your oxymoron! "[i]As long as you are going to break the law, You had better NOT break THIS law!"
Last edited by Jungleexplorer; 12/12/18 01:36 PM.
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Re: Who in the world rights the Texas hunting laws?
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12/12/18 01:46 PM
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Re: Who in the world rights the Texas hunting laws?
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12/12/18 02:06 PM
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It is illegal to waste game meat It is illegal to hunt without landowner consent It is illegal to kill those animals from a vehicle, boat, aircraft. It is illegal to kill those animals from a public road. It is illegal to kill those animals at night, or with the aid of a light.
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Re: Who in the world rights the Texas hunting laws?
[Re: Jungleexplorer]
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12/12/18 02:08 PM
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So I was looking up the regulations for a non-related issue and I stumbled upon this regulation in the TDPW manual. "It is a Class A misdemeanor to fail to retrieve or to keep in an edible condition a whitetail or mule deer, pronghorn antelope, or desert bighorn sheep hunted without landowner consent; from a vehicle, boat, or aircraft (including unmanned aerial vehicles); on a public road; at night; or with the aid of a light."[/i]
If that is not a mouthful, I don't know what is. I had to read it six or seven times before I began to understand what it is saying. Basically, what I understand this sentence to say is, We really don't care if you break a bunch of other laws, but we are really serious about you not wasting the meat of the animals you kill while breaking a bunch of other laws. I know that is a little sarcastic, but that is what it seems like it is saying. It saying, As long as you are going to A: Trespass (hunted without landowner consent), B: Hunt from a vehicle on a public road (illegal), C: Hunt Big Game at night (illegal), D: Spotlight for big game (illegal); as long as you are going to break all those laws, we really, REALLY don't want you to waste the meat. LOL!
Who in the world rights this stuff? No wonder people get so confused. Talk about your oxymoron! "[i]As long as you are going to break the law, You had better NOT break THIS law!" A really smart guy wrote it. It’s an additional charge to the other plethora of charges, shooting across fence, trespassing, shooting from road etc. All comes down to a very easy to prove charge that aids in pleas.
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Re: Who in the world rights the Texas hunting laws?
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12/12/18 03:06 PM
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Additional charge = more leverage against the plaintiff.
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Re: Who in the world rights the Texas hunting laws?
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12/12/18 03:13 PM
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It is illegal to waste game meat It is illegal to hunt without landowner consent It is illegal to kill those animals from a vehicle, boat, aircraft. It is illegal to kill those animals from a public road. It is illegal to kill those animals at night, or with the aid of a light.
"Write" Plain and simple with no misspellings, you can tell this guy is not a lawyer.
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Re: Who in the world rights the Texas hunting laws?
[Re: Jungleexplorer]
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12/12/18 03:14 PM
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It was probably added due to the fact that many poachers get a kick out of just riding around and killing wildlife from the highway, then leave it lay where it dropped. It was a loophole that needed to be plugged and adds more charges when caught. Most people "write" things like the "Bill of Rights".
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: Who in the world rights the Texas hunting laws?
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12/12/18 03:37 PM
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It is illegal to waste game meat It is illegal to hunt without landowner consent It is illegal to kill those animals from a vehicle, boat, aircraft. It is illegal to kill those animals from a public road. It is illegal to kill those animals at night, or with the aid of a light.
"Write" Thank you. Not sure I could resist much longer
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Re: Who in the world rights the Texas hunting laws?
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12/12/18 04:21 PM
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Sounds like just an additional charge to compensate for the dead animal.
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Re: Who in the world rights the Texas hunting laws?
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12/12/18 04:35 PM
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It is illegal to waste game meat It is illegal to hunt without landowner consent It is illegal to kill those animals from a vehicle, boat, aircraft. It is illegal to kill those animals from a public road. It is illegal to kill those animals at night, or with the aid of a light.
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Re: Who in the world rights the Texas hunting laws?
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12/12/18 05:05 PM
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Re: Who in the world rights the Texas hunting laws?
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12/12/18 05:11 PM
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Re: Who in the world rights the Texas hunting laws?
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12/12/18 05:46 PM
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What bothers me is the state is calling a pronghorn a pronghorn antelope, which it is not. Pronghorn's are NOT antelope.
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Re: Who in the world rights the Texas hunting laws?
[Re: Jungleexplorer]
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12/12/18 06:22 PM
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So I was looking up the regulations for a non-related issue and I stumbled upon this regulation in the TDPW manual. "It is a Class A misdemeanor to fail to retrieve or to keep in an edible condition a whitetail or mule deer, pronghorn antelope, or desert bighorn sheep hunted without landowner consent; from a vehicle, boat, or aircraft (including unmanned aerial vehicles); on a public road; at night; or with the aid of a light."[/i]
If that is not a mouthful, I don't know what is. I had to read it six or seven times before I began to understand what it is saying. Basically, what I understand this sentence to say is, We really don't care if you break a bunch of other laws, but we are really serious about you not wasting the meat of the animals you kill while breaking a bunch of other laws. I know that is a little sarcastic, but that is what it seems like it is saying. It saying, As long as you are going to A: Trespass (hunted without landowner consent), B: Hunt from a vehicle on a public road (illegal), C: Hunt Big Game at night (illegal), D: Spotlight for big game (illegal); as long as you are going to break all those laws, we really, REALLY don't want you to waste the meat. LOL!
Who in the world rights this stuff? No wonder people get so confused. Talk about your oxymoron! "[i]As long as you are going to break the law, You had better NOT break THIS law!" It's an add on charge that's easier to prove than straight up poaching. To prove poaching they've probably got to put someone as the shooter behind the gun, with this law they've just got to prove the person could've preserved the meat and didn't preserve it, that's a lot easier to prove. Not to mention that prosecutors like to stack charges to gain more leverage.
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Re: Who in the world rights the Texas hunting laws?
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12/12/18 09:21 PM
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What bothers me is the state is calling a pronghorn a pronghorn antelope, which it is not. Pronghorn's are NOT antelope. Apparently TX nor other states care I had two tags this year from another state and they both read “NR Antelope”
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Re: Who in the world rights the Texas hunting laws?
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12/12/18 10:19 PM
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What bothers me is the state is calling a pronghorn a pronghorn antelope, which it is not. Pronghorn's are NOT antelope. Apparently TX nor other states care I had two tags this year from another state and they both read “NR Antelope” No one cares. Apparently they've been called antelope so long that it's easier to let it be than educate and change. And half the biologists probably don't know either.
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Re: Who in the world rights the Texas hunting laws?
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12/12/18 11:37 PM
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You guys completely missed the point of my post. I was not asking why this law exist, which seem to be what most of you thought since you tried to explain the reason for its existence. My point was about the wording of the sentence itself. The sentence is aimed at Criminals that do not respect the laws. It's like saying, "It is a crime not take all the cash when you rob a bank." or "It is a crime to leave the TV behind when you burglarize a house." The sentence is saying to criminals, "We know you don't respect the law, but we want you to respect this one law."
My point is, that is a really dumb sentence regardless of the reason behind it. The fact that I used an improper homophone in my OP does not make that sentence any less stupid, but it is stupid for a person to try defend stupidity by attacking another person's typo which has nothing to do with the issue. It just shows that person to be petty and childish.
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Re: Who in the world rights the Texas hunting laws?
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12/13/18 12:46 AM
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Pot calling the Kettle black.
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Re: Who in the world rights the Texas hunting laws?
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12/13/18 02:34 AM
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THE ROAD GOES ON FOREVER AND THE PARTY NEVER ENDS.
F##K YOU JOE BIDEN !!!!!
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Re: Who in the world rights the Texas hunting laws?
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12/13/18 03:01 AM
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It's called "legalese". The native language of blood sucking lawyers.
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Re: Who in the world rights the Texas hunting laws?
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12/13/18 03:40 AM
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Most statutes are written either by lobbyists for special interests, or by staff lawyers at the Legislative Council at the request of a legislator.
Some codes, such as the Penal Code, or the Parks & Wildlife Code, are written by national committees that meet to try to create uniform laws for states to adopt.
Our language is continuously evolving including the language as used in laws.
Older laws tend to be awkward to our eye and ear, while new laws are written more in plain language.
Take a look at the Constitution. Some of it is very awkward language to our modern eye and ear.
Sometimes legislators intentionally leave laws unclear when they cannot agree among themselves, but they want to pass something.
By doing so, they relegate the duty of lawmaker to the courts and/or administrative agency employees.
The Congress is especially bad about delegating law making duties to the courts, which is why the appointment of federal judges has become so intensely political.
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Re: Who in the world rights the Texas hunting laws?
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12/13/18 04:13 AM
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It is that way so you know your wrights from your rongs.
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Re: Who in the world rights the Texas hunting laws?
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12/13/18 05:05 AM
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It is that way so you know your wrights from your rongs.
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