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Re: Grizzly protection on a budget.
[Re: MeanGreen85]
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08/06/18 02:23 PM
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Ok, received a PM asking if I was really recommending a 500 to carry?
No, if the OP just wants one, then I fully support that by all means, thought was obvious, but apparently not. Just a guess BigPig and others really are not recommending a 2.5” version either.
To be clear, I still believe his G20 will work fine or better than the big boomer because he is used to it and will make more shots, more accurately under pressure. And a couple of cans of spray would be good too. Hopefully, that clears things up.
But any one who just wants to buy and try something, I support.
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Re: Grizzly protection on a budget.
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08/06/18 02:34 PM
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I find the recoil easier to handle in the shorter barrel lengths for all the big guns I’ve shot. In a lighter cartridge such as .357 the longer barrel and its weight offsets the recoil. When it comes to bigger cases and bullets I find the opposite to be true. The super Redhawk Alaskan in 454 with its 2 1/2” barrel is a pussycat to shoot compared to a 7 1/2” 44 mag. Yes you lose velocity and energy with the short barrel but these guns are designed specifically as bear guns.
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Re: Grizzly protection on a budget.
[Re: MeanGreen85]
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08/06/18 02:39 PM
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Also staying on target is important. That’s not an issue in bear county with any pistol no matter the recoil. You don’t have to stay on target. By the time you should shoot the target is on you. Another bonus for the 2.5” barrel. You’d have a hard time getting a long barrel pulled and turned around to make the kill if theirs body contact already. These are get off of me guns. And they work.
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Re: Grizzly protection on a budget.
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08/06/18 04:07 PM
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Re: Grizzly protection on a budget.
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08/06/18 09:23 PM
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I, too, think the obvious choice is to simply buy a 10 round magazine for the existing G20. That said, this may help you get in touch with your inner Wile E. Coyote:
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Re: Grizzly protection on a budget.
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08/06/18 09:53 PM
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I'm a belt and suspenders guy when it comes to things that will eat me, so I would carry both. When we're in Alaska, we never leave the house to go walking, fishing, or hunting without my son taking his bear spray. He usually also has his 10mm, but even if he doesn't have the gun he has his bear spray. That stuff is wicked and it has been proven to work, but I would still want the extra insurance of a firearm whenever possible. BTW, I'm not saying a 10mm is the best choice, it's just the best hand gun choice he has. I'll probably take my .44 mag with me this year. This would be my choice, spray and my 10mm.
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Re: Grizzly protection on a budget.
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08/06/18 10:52 PM
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I, too, think the obvious choice is to simply buy a 10 round magazine for the existing G20. That said, this may help you get in touch with your inner Wile E. Coyote:  idiots Too much of y’all are the voice of reason in here.  Probably going to order a one or two 10rounders and keep carrying that for the time being.
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Re: Grizzly protection on a budget.
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08/17/18 07:03 PM
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Very very interesting article, actual details incidents with interviews https://www.ammoland.com/2018/02/defense.../#axzz5OSnIZp8l
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Re: Grizzly protection on a budget.
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08/17/18 09:36 PM
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I, too, think the obvious choice is to simply buy a 10 round magazine for the existing G20. That said, this may help you get in touch with your inner Wile E. Coyote:  idiots Too much of y’all are the voice of reason in here.  Probably going to order a one or two 10rounders and keep carrying that for the time being. We can't have that. ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/usergals/2018/08/full-30864-158902-kimg1224.jpg) Thats a 10mm (250 grains total) loaded in a 44 mag. 10mm is great and all but...
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Re: Grizzly protection on a budget.
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08/26/18 07:12 PM
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Granted, this is coming from someone who has only entered bear country once, and that was dead of winter...but I would personally feel better with a big honkin piece of lead than a bottle of spicy liquid. My personal opinion only. Other than that, I have absolutely nothing to add. I’m not going to argue about it. That’s the way I expect almost everyone on a Texas rifle forum to feel. But the facts say otherwise. Spray will stop most charges. Lead will stop only those where the CNS is shut down. Watch a grizzly destroy everything within a 20’ radius after being shot in the boiler room with a .375 and you may feel differently - and that’s without him having a defined threat/prey objective. I get it though. It ain’t macho.  That's a good point about shutting down the CNS. I've read the journal's of Lewis and Clark. Their logs that they wrote daily. They encountered a lot of grizzly bears. They carried .69 caliber muskets. I don't know the ballistics but might be similar to a 12 slug. One of the bears took 10 shots to kill, and they said the only way they could stop a charging bear, was a head shot. I think, I would prefer to carry a rifle, than a handgun. If I had to hit him in the head, a rifle would be a better choice than a handgun. A lever action 454 casull would a good choice. I don't think I would feel safe with just bear spray.
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