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I still recall back in the late '60s to early '70s, the ranch foreman of a large (13+k acre) ranch in my home county contacting my dad to see if he and his boys (my brother and I) would be interested in coming out to reduce the feral hog population as they were getting aggressive and killing calves. We went out during a cold front and started driving the pasture, shooting from the bed of a pickup, took out 27 if memory serves me, grown 150-300+ lb pigs in one day. Then spent the rest of the evening & night gutting, skinning and quartering hogs, then gave pork to all our neighbors and friends that was more than would fill our freezers. Had a lot of sausage making parties too. He would call us about every 6-9 months afterwards for the next couple of years to come out to take some more. This was before most places had issues or trapping wasn't even dreamed up that we had heard of. We would keep them in check but you never can get them all. I learned to hate feral hogs during my early years due to these encounters but mainly due to the amount of work after you put a bunch on the ground, dad wasn't for letting anything go to waste.
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Re: farmers & ranchers?
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just read a post in the photo link, op say wish he had pigs to shoot on his new lease, this is why the problem will not be fixed.  Exactly. I've had guys turn down my big lake ranch because it's pig free. Yep. However one feels about pigs, that's why they got started, are everywhere, and won't go away. Many non-landowners don't care about the havoc they wreak, they just want something to shoot year round. Yep, and it may blow bobo's mind but it's true. Brings up a good question though. I wonder how many places in Texas are pig free? And IMO since there are pigs totally surrounding the big lake area, how does one explain the fact that there are none in that area?? I know exactly why, but I'll listen to theories . Maybe should start another thread. As pappy said: three types of hunters upper, middle, & lower class ... Can only speak for myself... As a low class hunter, non-landowner, when leasing, its about affordability...  Agree, that should be in different thread.... Mine go missing, i got cheap posts.. Edit:  No, colt.45 not ing with himself... For those who might be  It happens 
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Re: farmers & ranchers?
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04/12/17 01:51 PM
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Hogs and the AR/tacticool deal are joined at the hip. Errbody's got to have them an AR to murderize all those packs of bloodthirsty pigs - which errbody can hunt all year round. And burn a lot of ammo in the process. Like paintball with real bullets. 
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Re: farmers & ranchers?
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just read a post in the photo link, op say wish he had pigs to shoot on his new lease, this is why the problem will not be fixed. Exactly. I've had guys turn down my big lake ranch because it's pig free. Yep. However one feels about pigs, that's why they got started, are everywhere, and won't go away. Many non-landowners don't care about the havoc they wreak, they just want something to shoot year round. Yep, and it may blow bobo's mind but it's true. Brings up a good question though. I wonder how many places in Texas are pig free? And IMO since there are pigs totally surrounding the big lake area, how does one explain the fact that there are none in that area?? I know exactly why, but I'll listen to theories. Maybe should start another thread. None in Sanderson, TX..........yet. Northern end of the Chihuahuan Desert, is why there's none there, it's hard country. But I have no doubt they can migrate south to there one day.
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Re: farmers & ranchers?
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04/12/17 02:17 PM
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just read a post in the photo link, op say wish he had pigs to shoot on his new lease, this is why the problem will not be fixed. Exactly. I've had guys turn down my big lake ranch because it's pig free. That blows my mind. That's a God send. Yes it is. I wish I didn't have hogs, or hog sign. I wish I didn't have to set snares, and build a trap. Hog free would be perfect, but I'll never happen in Fannin County. It's a hog haven, they've got everything they need.
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Re: farmers & ranchers?
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04/12/17 02:32 PM
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[/quote] None in Sanderson, TX..........yet.
Northern end of the Chihuahuan Desert, is why there's none there, it's hard country. But I have no doubt they can migrate south to there one day. [/quote]
My in-laws are starting to get them on their place northeast of Dryden. It had only been Javi's the previous 25 years owning the place.
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Re: farmers & ranchers?
[Re: therancher]
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just read a post in the photo link, op say wish he had pigs to shoot on his new lease, this is why the problem will not be fixed. Exactly. I've had guys turn down my big lake ranch because it's pig free. Yep. However one feels about pigs, that's why they got started, are everywhere, and won't go away. Many non-landowners don't care about the havoc they wreak, they just want something to shoot year round. Yep, and it may blow bobo's mind but it's true. Brings up a good question though. I wonder how many places in Texas are pig free? And IMO since there are pigs totally surrounding the big lake area, how does one explain the fact that there are none in that area?? I know exactly why, but I'll listen to theories. Maybe should start another thread. Blows my mind, on each of those, pig free but more so people passing on a lease because it is pig free. One does not simply have a "few" pigs...... Why would any one who hunts deer....want pigs.
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Re: farmers & ranchers?
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04/12/17 03:01 PM
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Oh no idea why you don't not have pigs unless it's a water via trough thing where piglets can't get to it.
Or one hell of a fence and superb built water gaps
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, b/c they know not victory nor defeat"- #26 TR
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Re: farmers & ranchers?
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04/12/17 03:21 PM
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just read a post in the photo link, op say wish he had pigs to shoot on his new lease, this is why the problem will not be fixed. Exactly. I've had guys turn down my big lake ranch because it's pig free. That blows my mind. That's a God send. Yes it is. I wish I didn't have hogs, or hog sign. I wish I didn't have to set snares, and build a trap. Hog free would be perfect, but I'll never happen in Fannin County. It's a hog haven, they've got everything they need. We don't have them on our place. The neighbors around us do. I have lost business before because we didn't have a hog or two to "throw in for free" or a fee for less than what my time is worth.
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Re: farmers & ranchers?
[Re: colt45-90]
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04/12/17 03:26 PM
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thats the last thing I would want to see on a paid for hunt.
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, b/c they know not victory nor defeat"- #26 TR
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Re: farmers & ranchers?
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04/12/17 04:51 PM
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None in Sanderson, TX..........yet. Northern end of the Chihuahuan Desert, is why there's none there, it's hard country. But I have no doubt they can migrate south to there one day. [/quote] My in-laws are starting to get them on their place northeast of Dryden. It had only been Javi's the previous 25 years owning the place. [/quote] I know exactly where Dryden is, not too far from Sanderson. I was talking with the owner of the ranch in December. He said they haven't made it there yet. And I said, it sure could happen. His answer was "well, you boys just need to come back more often, and do some killing." Yessir, was my reply. As Bobo said, on our ranch, the water that is there year round is too tall for hogs to reach, but when it rains there's header tanks that hold lots of water, that takes a long time to evaporate.
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Re: farmers & ranchers?
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04/12/17 04:58 PM
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And IMO since there are pigs totally surrounding the big lake area, how does one explain the fact that there are none in that area?? I know exactly why, but I'll listen to theories. Maybe should start another thread.
Maybe you should. I don't really care to hear 'ideas' that you know to be incorrect. Let's here exactly why that is...maybe we could all learn something.
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Re: farmers & ranchers?
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04/12/17 08:16 PM
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I'd like to think this chart is incorrect, but my feeling is...it probably DOES reflect a 'presence' of feral hogs in most of the counties cited. I don't know if the information was gathered from 'reported sightings' or Confirmed/Verified sightings, but its a pretty grim situation if true. Prior to the late 70's (in Texas) I can remember only seeing hogs in East/Deep East Texas, South Texas and few small areas in Central Texas (Volente on Lake Travis for example).  I am not against providing new 'tools' with which to combat the hog population, but I am unconvinced (at present) that Warfarin AND the delivery system are good solutions.
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Re: farmers & ranchers?
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I think the USDA isn't 100% correct on that chart, but probably pretty close to the truth.
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I still recall back in the late '60s to early '70s, the ranch foreman of a large (13+k acre) ranch in my home county contacting my dad to see if he and his boys (my brother and I) would be interested in coming out to reduce the feral hog population as they were getting aggressive and killing calves. We went out during a cold front and started driving the pasture, shooting from the bed of a pickup, took out 27 if memory serves me, grown 150-300+ lb pigs in one day. Then spent the rest of the evening & night gutting, skinning and quartering hogs, then gave pork to all our neighbors and friends that was more than would fill our freezers. Had a lot of sausage making parties too. He would call us about every 6-9 months afterwards for the next couple of years to come out to take some more. This was before most places had issues or trapping wasn't even dreamed up that we had heard of. We would keep them in check but you never can get them all. I learned to hate feral hogs during my early years due to these encounters but mainly due to the amount of work after you put a bunch on the ground, dad wasn't for letting anything go to waste. I have heard of south Texas ranchers keeping their mares (about to foal) up in hog proof pens at night to keep the hogs off foals
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Re: farmers & ranchers?
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We spoke with the county extension agent here about the new feral hog poison bait. From what he told us, it has to be in a trap that prevents other animals from getting in and the pig has to go int the trap and be caught to eat it. So, pretty much worthless to us as the pigs here are not going into the traps that's why we are looking into other methods.
I used to not want to waste anything and would process the pigs after killing them but now I just shoot any I see and unless I know someone who wants them and will come out to collect them from the field then they just get left for the buzzards and yotes.
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Re: farmers & ranchers?
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04/26/17 01:00 PM
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As pappy once said: Its not about the big bucks, landowners working with hunters is the solution ...
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Re: farmers & ranchers?
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04/26/17 01:05 PM
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That's not sanity..that's lawyers telling them, there is a bunch of socialist, eco terrorist, invasive pig loving hippies in Texas that while sue when they find the first non targeted species killed including flies.
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, b/c they know not victory nor defeat"- #26 TR
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Re: farmers & ranchers?
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04/26/17 01:06 PM
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As pappy once said: Its not about the big bucks, landowners working with hunters is the solution ... I needed a good laugh show me one ranch that has eliminated hogs via hunting
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, b/c they know not victory nor defeat"- #26 TR
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04/26/17 01:40 PM
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Are the losses to hogs sufficient to justify fencing crops with panels?
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Re: farmers & ranchers?
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04/26/17 01:55 PM
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What we need is something we can till into the soil that the pigs don't like but wont hurt the soil/plant life. Seems like something like that would be possible.
There you go, million dollar idea for the taking. someone hop to it.
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Re: farmers & ranchers?
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Are the losses to hogs sufficient to justify fencing crops with panels? Just a wire panel comparison 8' deer fence-.69 a ft Hog panel- 2.47 a ft So ya it's 3.5x more then a high fence just via wire. So HF is $4.5-5ft. Hog would be $15.75... so $83,169 a mile or $332,640 a section
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, b/c they know not victory nor defeat"- #26 TR
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Re: farmers & ranchers?
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04/26/17 02:21 PM
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There was a poster on here I believe it was T-bar put panel fencing up at his place and argued it cost little more than traditional fencing.
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