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Your Thoughts Poison, Trauma Or ??? #6687846 02/26/17 10:15 PM
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My food plot has a couple of large craters from those 4 legged trenchers nuts Only getting a couple of game cam pics of a medium size black boar usually 3-4 am. Last 2 weeks he's a no show for the camera?

Well I thought what the heck I will get in the blind and see what happens? Get in about 5:15 pm just hoping a piggy would show up before dark. Around 6 the deer in the field spook to the west side and guess who enters the field from the east? Yepper its the black boar at 85 yards and he is slowly walking towards me partyon555 Before I can get the gun out of the window a young brown sow with 9 real small piglets in tow come marching out eek2

The macho in me wants to shoot the boar, but the animal in me says shoot the sow and the little piggies might not make it nidea So I popped her in the head, field dressed her and let her hang for skinning and packing this morning.

Well a few of us had to much fun last night drink7 and old Stub was pretty dang rough this am muyloco
Dang near finished skinning her and blue color starts appearing in the fat scratch
I am dehydrated tired can't get enough water in me now this hammer

So I am guessing the new poison Warfarin?? I am going to dump the girl regardless but wanted to see if they GW had an interest? Texted the Jack county game warden, called him got voice mail. Called Montague county GW he was great but said it should not be the warfarin for its only has a small partial release, he did not know what it is maybe some kind of trauma. Jack County GW who is also a fine young man said chunk it for the predators.

Man I was looking forward to smoking my new little girlfriend but no way in hades was I going to take that chance, Yotes unfortunately y'all are welcome for the prepped meal.

So what do you think the blue is from confused2










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Is anybody even using it yet for hogs? 3-6 weeks to train them to use the traps. If poison, then rat poison, still possibly warfarin.


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Good question. I know the rules say that hogs must be 'trained' before using the new poison bait, but who's to say that everyone is following the instructions?


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Well, that would mean that people have gotten the class and license to be able to buy the bait. It is a restricted item. Then dispersed it illegally.

You are right, who is to say that they are following the directions. Then again, instances of rat poisoned hogs have been discovered already in a couple of localities with the same blue tinge.


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Shoot another one and keep us updated on blue fat


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This worries me.
For every hunter that's online and informed, there are 10X that amount that don't know about the poison or the blue tint.

I think I will leave a lot more laying and stop giving them to friends and family.
My concern is how long it takes the tint to start working.
For example(yeah, I know it's a pretty ridiculous example), how about a pig that just ate a 50# bag last night and I shot it this morning?


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Hey Stub, where are you located?
I'm in Central Texas and wondering.
Thank You Sir!


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It isn't trauma. Maybe he ate some blue cupcake frosting. It turns your lips, tongue and teeth blue . . .


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Originally Posted By: Vern1
Hey Stub, where are you located?
I'm in Central Texas and wondering.
Thank You Sir!


8 miles north of Jacksboro.


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Originally Posted By: der Teufel
Good question. I know the rules say that hogs must be 'trained' before using the new poison bait, but who's to say that everyone is following the instructions?


Well, it isn't hog poison. The hog poison isn't out for sale yet according to ...

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I've seen that before when The knife cuts close to the hair.

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Originally Posted By: Eastwood
I've seen that before when The knife cuts close to the hair.


I've cut hogs in many ways and never seen that


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Originally Posted By: Eastwood
I've seen that before when The knife cuts close to the hair.


That was my first thought as well. I saw the photos of the pig in Cali and that one for sure has blue fat.

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Looks to me like the lower connective layers of fascia. It's part of the "silverskin" layer of tissue that envelopes the muscle. It allows the muscles to slide freely over one another. I could be wrong, but that's what it looks like to me.

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Looks to me like the lower connective layers of fascia. It's part of the "silverskin" layer of tissue that envelopes the muscle. It allows the muscles to slide freely over one another. I could be wrong, but that's what it looks like to me.
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I've seen that before when The knife cuts close to the hair.


That was my first thought as well. I saw the photos of the pig in Cali and that one for sure has blue fat.


So maybe I chunked some perfectly good pork vittles away confused2 If so hammer nuts


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Appears that the knife cuts got into the hair follicles. Have seen that happen when skinning deer.


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Originally Posted By: Vern1
This worries me.
For every hunter that's online and informed, there are 10X that amount that don't know about the poison or the blue tint.

I think I will leave a lot more laying and stop giving them to friends and family.
My concern is how long it takes the tint to start working.
For example(yeah, I know it's a pretty ridiculous example), how about a pig that just ate a 50# bag last night and I shot it this morning?


You're exactly right. At least 10x that don't know. From the pictures I've seen the blue tint you're talking about is a very pronounced and noticeable blue. I'd be curious to know about your example, and to add to it. If the more they eat the bluer it'll get?

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I have seen that blue tint on meat I have bought at the store. I think you threw away good meat.

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Originally Posted By: allan50
I have seen that blue tint on meat I have bought at the store. I think you threw away good meat.


I have never seen it before, but I think your right about tossing good meat away.
With the Warfarin poison info out it made me overly concerned and as they say; out of an abundance of caution I got scared and chunked it muyloco


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Originally Posted By: allan50
I have seen that blue tint on meat I have bought at the store. I think you threw away good meat.


Chances are, that was vegetable-based inspection stamp ink, perfectly safe to consume.



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I've seen that color after a trip to the snow cone stand.

Your hog may have had a thing for coconut flavored snow cones.

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Originally Posted By: aerangis
I've seen that color after a trip to the snow cone stand.

Your hog may have had a thing for coconut flavored snow cones.


Now that right there is funny!


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One more reason not to eat the nasty suckers.

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For sure, it's not from a Warfarin bait.

The amount of Warfarin in the bait is extremely low, 0.005% (.00005), and the hogs have to eat a large amount of it everyday over at least 5 days.

For humans, Warfarin has saved millions of lives by managing high blood pressure and preventing blood clots and strokes.

Hogs on the other hand have a very low tolerance for Warfarin. Warfarin gets into their bloodstream and kills them through internal hemorrhaging.

I'm not a medical doctor, but if you are already on the maximum dose of Warfarin then it wouldn't be prudent to drink the blood of several dead hogs everyday if they were killed with Warfarin. I don't think you could eat enough of the meat to even get a reading.

If you were to shoot a hog that had consumed the bait from another property, you would know it when you went to skin it out since the strong blue dye in the bait colors the insides.

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