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Re: Just got screwed ...
[Re: Erathkid]
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10/30/14 05:24 PM
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To file in small claims court is inexpensive, probably less than $50.00, I think you can sue up to statutory maximum of $5,000. It will be a pain in the arse for him. You have nothing to lose, everything to gain. It is $10,000 plus court costs and is now called Texas Justice Court. Check out the links I posted.
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Re: Just got screwed ...
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
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10/30/14 05:33 PM
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To file in small claims court is inexpensive, probably less than $50.00, I think you can sue up to statutory maximum of $5,000. It will be a pain in the arse for him. You have nothing to lose, everything to gain. It is $10,000 plus court costs and is now called Texas Justice Court. Check out the links I posted. DO IT
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Re: Just got screwed ...
[Re: Navasot]
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10/30/14 05:35 PM
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To file in small claims court is inexpensive, probably less than $50.00, I think you can sue up to statutory maximum of $5,000. It will be a pain in the arse for him. You have nothing to lose, everything to gain. It is $10,000 plus court costs and is now called Texas Justice Court. Check out the links I posted. DO IT 
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Re: Just got screwed ...
[Re: jshouse]
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10/30/14 06:03 PM
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tShawnB
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LOL, I agree, when all else fails, blame the Kenyan.
How come everybody I meet is a deer hunting expert?
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Re: Just got screwed ...
[Re: Matneymd]
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10/30/14 06:07 PM
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RossCravens
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This whole scenario is the sh!ts! I really feel for you. If I were in your shoes, I would follow the steps that everyone else has given...Invoice, demand letter, small claims. If that doesn't work, the whole punch to the throat isn't a horrible idea! But if you do that, don't stop there...at least make it worth your time haha
I would stay away from contacting the leasers, it probably won't be fruitful since I am sure they are desperate for a place to hunt this close to the season. It could also come back to bight you in the @ss.
Gig 'Em
Ross Cravens Class of '10
"From the outside looking in, you can't understand it. And from the inside looking out, you can't explain it."
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Re: Just got screwed ...
[Re: tShawnB]
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10/30/14 06:08 PM
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RossCravens
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LOL, I agree, when all else fails, blame the Kenyan. hahaha...this will make my dad's day!
Gig 'Em
Ross Cravens Class of '10
"From the outside looking in, you can't understand it. And from the inside looking out, you can't explain it."
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Re: Just got screwed ...
[Re: Matneymd]
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10/30/14 06:23 PM
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Simple Searcher
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Or find his ranch manager and by him steaks and take him fishing.  (just kidding txshntr)
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Re: Just got screwed ...
[Re: Matneymd]
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10/30/14 07:50 PM
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Invoicing is a waste of your time and resources unless part of your verbal agreement was that you would get paid for your work if the hunting did not come through.
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Re: Just got screwed ...
[Re: Simple Searcher]
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10/30/14 07:52 PM
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Or find his ranch manager and by him steaks and take him fishing.  (just kidding txshntr) He is probably a golfer..it works I tell ya 
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Re: Just got screwed ...
[Re: redchevy]
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10/30/14 08:36 PM
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I'd try and contact the group that leased the place out of Dallas. If they have any sort of integrity they will see the landowner's move for what it is. I know if I were a leaser I wouldn't want to throw in with a landowner who would behave that way. May be able to get them to pull the deal out from under the LO. May not get you a chance to hunt, but it would hold him accountable for what he has done to you. Can try and get their contact info from the LO by telling him you want to try and buy into the lease with them. Im sorry but that is comical. I doubt a single deer leaser would back out of their new lease they have already put money into because the landlord was a shister to someone in the past. I would personally be leery of anyone who was willing to take the hard work of one man and cash in on it. Imagine being on a lease that you put time, energy, and effort into only to discover that you can't hunt it the next year because someone else came along and paid more. I tend not to do business with folks with a bad reputation. Going back on your word equals bad reputation in my book. He could have told his leasers that he already had 1 hunter that had rights and access.
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Re: Just got screwed ...
[Re: Matneymd]
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10/30/14 08:50 PM
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MoBettaHuntR
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1.3 miles of fencing is worth like 3 years on a lease. Forget that arse and move on all this legal stuff may work out but it will just get your BP up. I would be out there tearing it all down…if he says anything just tell him your just going back on what you did same as him.
-Those who say money can't buy happiness never bought a dog.
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Re: Just got screwed ...
[Re: Matneymd]
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10/30/14 08:53 PM
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MoBettaHuntR
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Don't really mean that retaliation just always sounds good and can be quite nice to day dream about. It'll just get you in a bigger pickle. Time to move on to greener pastures.
-Those who say money can't buy happiness never bought a dog.
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Re: Just got screwed ...
[Re: MoBettaHuntR]
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10/30/14 08:54 PM
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txshntr
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1.3 miles of fencing is worth like 3 years on a lease. Forget that arse and move on all this legal stuff may work out but it will just get your BP up. I would be out there tearing it all down…if he says anything just tell him your just going back on what you did same as him. Then you get charged with vandalism and/or theft, along with trespassing. Not exactly moving on with all this legal stuff if you do that 
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Re: Just got screwed ...
[Re: MoBettaHuntR]
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10/30/14 08:54 PM
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Don't really mean that retaliation just always sounds good and can be quite nice to day dream about. It'll just get you in a bigger pickle. Time to move on to greener pastures.  Nice follow up Retaliation without getting caught always sounds good.
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Re: Just got screwed ...
[Re: txshntr]
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10/30/14 09:19 PM
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Send him an invoice for the work performed and file for a theft of services. The value would be based on the going rate for the work performed or the amount that he leased the property for. Doubt you get much out of it, but you can push the issue if you want to receive monetary compensation for the work performed. Verbal agreements are considered binding in Texas, but dang hard to prove. Good luck! As a side note That's what I was thinking as well. I think the "proof" would be the visible work done? May give a call to the Texas labor board and see if there is any avenue there you can pursue. Lesson learned.
If at first you dont succeed, then skydiving is not for you..
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Re: Just got screwed ...
[Re: Matneymd]
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10/30/14 09:19 PM
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Honestly I am utterly amazed at the support y'all have given me on this! I mostly just wanted to vent and even as a new guy ya'll treat me like a family member and some of the advice I've gotten is spot on. Thank you all.
PS. Some of you just escaped from the loony bin didn't you...
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Re: Just got screwed ...
[Re: Matneymd]
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10/30/14 09:21 PM
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Honestly I am utterly amazed at the support y'all have given me on this! I mostly just wanted to vent and even as a new guy ya'll treat me like a family member and some of the advice I've gotten is spot on. Thank you all.
PS. Some of you just escaped from the loony bin didn't you...  Some are more than likely posting from one...or should be. Grab a chair and hang around bud...you should fit right in 
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Re: Just got screwed ...
[Re: txshntr]
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10/30/14 09:24 PM
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MoBettaHuntR
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Don't really mean that retaliation just always sounds good and can be quite nice to day dream about. It'll just get you in a bigger pickle. Time to move on to greener pastures.  Nice follow up Retaliation without getting caught always sounds good. Haha I'm still upset about a few issues like that myself with a land lord from a while ago. I am still day dreaming about his house burning to the ground.
-Those who say money can't buy happiness never bought a dog.
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Re: Just got screwed ...
[Re: Matneymd]
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10/30/14 09:25 PM
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MoBettaHuntR
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-Those who say money can't buy happiness never bought a dog.
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Re: Just got screwed ...
[Re: Simple Searcher]
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10/30/14 09:27 PM
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Or find his ranch manager and by him steaks and take him fishing.  (just kidding txshntr) 
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: Just got screwed ...
[Re: Matneymd]
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10/30/14 09:36 PM
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Honestly I am utterly amazed at the support y'all have given me on this! I mostly just wanted to vent and even as a new guy ya'll treat me like a family member and some of the advice I've gotten is spot on. Thank you all.
We can change that. Remember there are three sides to all these types of stories. A. Your side B. Their side C. What really happened 
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Re: Just got screwed ...
[Re: Matneymd]
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10/30/14 10:07 PM
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This story would make even more sense if you said he was related to you!
It's usually a family member screwing over another family member so consider yourself lucky that you're not related and move on!
Thursday at 12:45 PM #33 Once i learned that i didn't "NEED" to kill something, and that if i did kill something all the fun stopped and work began, i was a much better hunter.
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Re: Just got screwed ...
[Re: Matneymd]
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10/30/14 10:20 PM
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 to THF, and unfortunately the real world of dealing with some landowners.
Combat Infantryman, the ultimate hunter where the prey shoots back. _____________"Illegitimus non carborundum est"_______________
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Re: Just got screwed ...
[Re: Matneymd]
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10/31/14 12:44 AM
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Send him a bill based on the going rate for any work you performed on the property. Take pictures of anything that indicates work was done, like new fencing. If you have invoices for materials that you purchased make copies. Bill him for the work and materials. Give him a due date to pay on the invoice. If he doesn't pay you, go to the county clerks office, file an affidavit of nonpayment (you'll need a legal description). Get the legal description from the county appraisal district's office. This will create a mechanics lien. At some point he or his heirs will want it removed, once it becomes an issue for them. As stated, if you're inclined go the small claims court route. Either way you'll need to prove up the work was done and you were not compensated.
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Re: Just got screwed ...
[Re: Matneymd]
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10/31/14 01:38 AM
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Some days you are the windshield and some days you are the bug....$hit happens. Hate to hear that, but I got a buddy that always seems to get into that same predicament. FYI, in the future, tell the guy you will work for XX per hour paid by check each week...and that you will not cash the checks if he will let you hunt the property...then you got his A$$ in a sling if he tries to pull that business. Hope this info helps. 
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