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Re: 313 1/8th B&C or 313 1/8th Whatever
[Re: txshntr]
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10/12/13 08:53 PM
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rifleman
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Maybe they need to create a category with a * in front of the scores.
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Re: 313 1/8th B&C or 313 1/8th Whatever
[Re: Barcelona Rick]
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10/12/13 08:55 PM
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txshntr
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"not have to worry about some jake hole shooting them as soon as they cross the fence because it has 8 points or just antlers." Now brother I was totally on your side until this part of your statement...if a hunter wants to shoot whatever is legal on his side of the fence then so be it...looks like you are thinking with a double standard sir...no flame but just think about your statement...cause not everybody is an antler hunter... rick Good thing you have a HF, because if one of your bucks jumped the fence onto my property, I would be a Jack Hole!!!
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Re: 313 1/8th B&C or 313 1/8th Whatever
[Re: txshntr]
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10/12/13 08:55 PM
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Rob this is Mark Watson, met you during the Pack event. Why you gotta be getting on me man lol, JK. I was just saying B&C as a general expression.
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Re: 313 1/8th B&C or 313 1/8th Whatever
[Re: rifleman]
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10/12/13 08:55 PM
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txshntr
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Maybe they need to create a category with a * in front of the scores. P&Y does...
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Re: 313 1/8th B&C or 313 1/8th Whatever
[Re: jshouse]
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10/12/13 08:55 PM
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Its unfortunate that we are all going back and forth with each other over some great looking deer that were posted.
I think going forward it might reduce these arguments if op's are more thoughtful about how they post the harvests and what they say.
Making sure ear tags are removed and not mentioning that you have other animals available, especially throwing out prices on those animals, which this op didn't do but I've seen other posts on here lately that have. Then throwing the phone number out there as well.
I believe if we all post are harvest along with the hunting story if you feel inclined to do so we could possibly reduce the banter that takes place afterword and keep things on the positive congratulatory side.
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Re: 313 1/8th B&C or 313 1/8th Whatever
[Re: Pitchfork Predator]
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10/12/13 08:59 PM
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txshntr
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Its unfortunate that we are all going back and forth with each other over some great looking deer that were posted.
I think going forward it might reduce these arguments if op's are more thoughtful about how they post the harvests and what they say.
Making sure ear tags are removed and not mentioning that you have other animals available, especially throwing out prices on those animals, which this op didn't do but I've seen other posts on here lately that have. Then throwing the phone number out there as well.
I believe if we all post are harvest along with the hunting story if you feel inclined to do so we could possibly reduce the banter that takes place afterword and keep things on the positive congratulatory side. Deer like that are always going to elicit negative comments, with or without the tags. I understand what you are saying, but I personally wouldn't take the extra steps to remove tags or cover ear holes. People are either going to be ok with it or hate it...
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Re: 313 1/8th B&C or 313 1/8th Whatever
[Re: Pitchfork Predator]
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10/12/13 09:00 PM
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watworm2
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It doesn't matter if I said anything about more hunts, or even put my number on there. So I didn't see the ear tag till after I took the pic, I honestly didn't even know the deer had a tag, because 80% of the deer that age on the ranch don't have them (shoot me), people will still have a negative opinion period, and that's why I will not advertise or post on this forum again, because of all the BS ive had to read today. If you posted a pic of a truck that someone bought, and you had a cpl more to sale 99.9% of the people on here would mention it. IM DONE
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Re: 313 1/8th B&C or 313 1/8th Whatever
[Re: watworm2]
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10/12/13 09:02 PM
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txshntr
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It doesn't matter if I said anything about more hunts, or even put my number on there. So I didn't see the ear tag till after I took the pic, I honestly didn't even know the deer had a tag, because 80% of the deer that age on the ranch don't have them (shoot me), people will still have a negative opinion period, and that's why I will not advertise or post on this forum again, because of all the BS ive had to read today. If you posted a pic of a truck that someone bought, and you had a cpl more to sale 99.9% of the people on here would mention it. IM DONE So you let the minority get your panties in a wad and dictate your activity going forward? You realize yours isn't the only HF operation on here, right?
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Re: 313 1/8th B&C or 313 1/8th Whatever
[Re: watworm2]
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10/12/13 09:04 PM
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txshntr
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It doesn't matter if I said anything about more hunts, or even put my number on there. And I don't think he was referring to you posting and putting your number on here..
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Re: 313 1/8th B&C or 313 1/8th Whatever
[Re: txshntr]
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10/12/13 09:07 PM
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watworm2
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100% understand that, ya it does dictate my activity on here because I read this same kinda crap on 90% of every HF post on here. Its not worth it to my business to portray an animal and get all the negative publicity. So ill continue to do what ive done and keep it out of Social sites.
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Re: 313 1/8th B&C or 313 1/8th Whatever
[Re: watworm2]
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10/12/13 09:11 PM
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txshntr
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100% understand that, ya it does dictate my activity on here because I read this same kinda crap on 90% of every HF post on here. Its not worth it to my business to portray an animal and get all the negative publicity. So ill continue to do what ive done and keep it out of Social sites. Guess that is the way of the world...minorities control the majority. Have a good one and thanks for sharing what you did
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Re: 313 1/8th B&C or 313 1/8th Whatever
[Re: watworm2]
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10/12/13 09:15 PM
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Rob this is Mark Watson, met you during the Pack event. Why you gotta be getting on me man lol, JK. I was just saying B&C as a general expression. Mark, you are fine. I respect your legal right to hunt HF. I'm just not a HF hunter and I'm a little outspoken making sure LF gets the respect it deserves. LOL, Cody is my favorite bass fisherman and guide in the world and he's mainly a HF hunter.
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Re: 313 1/8th B&C or 313 1/8th Whatever
[Re: txshntr]
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10/12/13 09:18 PM
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Mark. Don't let a few haters run you off...tag or no tag! It's obvious those monster deer are HF because like you said LF peps like me wouldn't give the deer time to grow another year even if he was half that big because neighbors would shoot it ....If I could afford to buy 1000 acres and HF it I would in a heartbeat.
Robert
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Re: 313 1/8th B&C or 313 1/8th Whatever
[Re: Rob Lay]
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10/12/13 09:26 PM
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I'm just not a HF hunter and I'm a little outspoken making sure LF gets the respect it deserves. who are you trying to make sure gets the credit "they" deserve, the LF hunter or the LF deer?
If I send my neighbors a text and ask them to give me feedback on my lawn and plant rye into a giant dong pattern, I'm probably going to get some less than positive feedback. Same goes here.
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Re: 313 1/8th B&C or 313 1/8th Whatever
[Re: jshouse]
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10/12/13 09:29 PM
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If its about the deer, acknowledge the deer and move on, but i fear in most cases its not about the deer at all.
If I send my neighbors a text and ask them to give me feedback on my lawn and plant rye into a giant dong pattern, I'm probably going to get some less than positive feedback. Same goes here.
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Re: 313 1/8th B&C or 313 1/8th Whatever
[Re: jshouse]
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10/12/13 09:36 PM
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If its about the deer, acknowledge the deer and move on, but i fear in most cases its not about the deer at all. This ^^^^^^^^^ if it were only about the deer no hunters name would ever be mentioned.
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: 313 1/8th B&C or 313 1/8th Whatever
[Re: stxranchman]
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10/12/13 10:19 PM
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watworm...you need to stick around my man. Don't let people get under your skin. Those deer are bad A$$ and huge. I love looking at the pics.
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Re: 313 1/8th B&C or 313 1/8th Whatever
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10/12/13 11:03 PM
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deer are great. dont let a few jealous people run you off. I dont care if it is hf or lf. Lack of respect shown from them is frustrating. I bet they feel like studs when they shoot the 2 year old buck on the low fence they are hunting. Cool Deer
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Re: 313 1/8th B&C or 313 1/8th Whatever
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10/12/13 11:46 PM
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Its unfortunate that we are all going back and forth with each other over some great looking deer that were posted.
I think going forward it might reduce these arguments if op's are more thoughtful about how they post the harvests and what they say.
Making sure ear tags are removed and not mentioning that you have other animals available, especially throwing out prices on those animals, which this op didn't do but I've seen other posts on here lately that have. Then throwing the phone number out there as well.
I believe if we all post are harvest along with the hunting story if you feel inclined to do so we could possibly reduce the banter that takes place afterword and keep things on the positive congratulatory side. That's a very good point.....BUT why should every individual have to double check, triple check, and then call in the editor to check twice more so they won't get trolled by the haters? Why can't everyone just comment in a nice or adult manner? I know it's a very long shot on hopes of that changing. I was always raised to either say something nice or don't say anything at all. Folks need to give the hunter a congrats or go complain elsewhere. Most of the members are grown adults, at least by age...let's all try to act more like it and be classy.
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Re: 313 1/8th B&C or 313 1/8th Whatever
[Re: watworm2]
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10/13/13 12:24 AM
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Out of respect for the late Ray Murski and his family, I don't want to say something wrong. The ranch this gorgeous animal came from actually has no record of this deer ever being in their pens, hes basically a ghost. No genetic alteration of any kind. I am not the ranch foreman, I outfit hunts for many ranches in the North Texas area, and Ray's son Mike is a close friend of mine. The animal was harvested cleanly, and ethically. He wasn't shot in or out of a pen or anything of the sort. As for my client that has harvested 2 of these magnificent animals that I have posted on here, he is a cancer survivor, and is into his 60's, and right now doesn't care what it cost to shoot basically anything, hes just happy to be alive. If I offended anyone by offering any more Hunts in the "Photo" section, I apologize, but in my post I didn't see a price list or anything of that nature, sorry if that offends you all. As for the tag, I truly never noticed it, and never knew he had one, it doesn't bother me in the least to harvest an animal with a tag, sorry I left it in the picture. I can promise you this I have deer on other ranches with tags in their ears that can not be harvested due to their intelligence. I welcome you to take a look at the animals on these ranches and I promise you that 90% of you couldn't tell me the difference between a 3 year old and a 5 year old, because their bodies are so large. I also was under the impression that this sight was to honor our sport that I love and to praise the animals that we raise, whether it be high or low fence, and to also congratulate the hunter as well as the ranch for the harvest regardless if it cost $100,000 or $1,000. After these ridiculous comments received on this picture of this incredible animal, ill stick to using the fishing forum and keep posting picks of all the 10 pounders I caught out of Fork this year, or is that considered BS as well. Hold on!!! Lake Fork. You even fish high fence??? LMAO!!!!
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Re: 313 1/8th B&C or 313 1/8th Whatever
[Re: Navasot]
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10/13/13 02:11 AM
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Re: 313 1/8th B&C or 313 1/8th Whatever
[Re: Rob Lay]
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10/13/13 02:17 AM
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gold jacket, green jacket....how does it affect you in any way the method in which that deer is scored or what it is called?
B&C is a universally accepted method of scoring deer, he isnt saying it is a B&C record or that its in the B&C book, its a simply a method of scoring that most people will recognize and understand. does B&C "recognize" a 147" buck?
I think you are wrong because B&C uses a net score, who really uses a net score except B&C? Ok. So next week your hunting in CO and you see a 220" net typical mulie deer... guide says hurry up and shoot but before you can it runs 30yards and is now on an Indian Res. By some freak miracle an Indian cheif steps out from a bush and says I give you permission to shoot that deer and gives you an indian tag.. and you shoot a top 3 B/C mulie ever....but guess what... its not eligible to be entered into the record book, just because it walked 30 yards on to a tiny little plot of indian land. So via the B/C ethics you didn't ethically kill that mulie....even though it was free range, and you broke no laws,
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Re: 313 1/8th B&C or 313 1/8th Whatever
[Re: watworm2]
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10/13/13 03:27 AM
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It doesn't matter if I said anything about more hunts, or even put my number on there. So I didn't see the ear tag till after I took the pic, I honestly didn't even know the deer had a tag, because 80% of the deer that age on the ranch don't have them (shoot me), people will still have a negative opinion period, and that's why I will not advertise or post on this forum again, because of all the BS ive had to read today. If you posted a pic of a truck that someone bought, and you had a cpl more to sale 99.9% of the people on here would mention it. IM DONE Well.......bye.
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Re: 313 1/8th B&C or 313 1/8th Whatever
[Re: huntnguide83]
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10/13/13 03:54 AM
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Its unfortunate that we are all going back and forth with each other over some great looking deer that were posted.
I think going forward it might reduce these arguments if op's are more thoughtful about how they post the harvests and what they say.
Making sure ear tags are removed and not mentioning that you have other animals available, especially throwing out prices on those animals, which this op didn't do but I've seen other posts on here lately that have. Then throwing the phone number out there as well.
I believe if we all post are harvest along with the hunting story if you feel inclined to do so we could possibly reduce the banter that takes place afterword and keep things on the positive congratulatory side. That's a very good point.....BUT why should every individual have to double check, triple check, and then call in the editor to check twice more so they won't get trolled by the haters? Why can't everyone just comment in a nice or adult manner? I know it's a very long shot on hopes of that changing. I was always raised to either say something nice or don't say anything at all. Folks need to give the hunter a congrats or go complain elsewhere. Most of the members are grown adults, at least by age...let's all try to act more like it and be classy. I agree. And op's don't have to double and triple check what they post. I'm just making a suggestion to consider to reduce all the negativity. I'm not saying its going to eliminate it. We all know it won't.
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Re: 313 1/8th B&C or 313 1/8th Whatever
[Re: Pitchfork Predator]
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10/13/13 11:01 PM
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What it boils down to is if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say it at all. If you don't like high fence hunting then don't read or comment. It is really that simple people. Actually it is common sense. But there are so many guys that live off of drama so...
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