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 Re: Running your dog in September
[Re: Guy]
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08/02/13 04:03 AM
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I just gave you a bunch of reasons. Correction, no reason for me and my dog not too. There are no rattlesnake where we dove hunt. Morning hunts my dog will be just fine. Dove have little to no scent? A game bird has little to no scent? That's a first, especially to a dog that's bred to find and retrieve game.
I'll take a Black Female every time.
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Re: Running your dog in September
[Re: Guy]
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08/02/13 05:31 AM
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Sniper John
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Dove have little if no scent, especially in the heat – Yeah yeah I know, your dog is great. I’ll be the honest one and say many times I can find the dove better myself with a good mark and picking your shots. I have seen my dog standing right next to a dove and could not find it.
Don't tell that to my blind dog. She has no trouble. But Vizsla's overall do have better scenting ability that retrievers. I have spent a lot of wasted time searching for dove before I had a dog to do it for me. Even lost a Dove or two. I can take shots over deep cover I never would take without a dog. Never had a problem with the heat with my Vizsla. I just take the usual precautions. So, I take a dog with me on most all dove hunts. But then Vizslas have a thin single coat. I can definitely see the dual coat Labs having a rough time. This was Blaze opening weekend last year easing up on a Dove to retrieve for my son. Dash missed the opener last year because he was at a dog show with my wife. He was going back to try and finish his CH title again this September, but we decided to wait a year on his confirmation and just let him be a hunting dog for a while. So with the change of plans. Dash gets to work his first dove opener.  Dash last October with his first Dove. 
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Re: Running your dog in September
[Re: Featherduster]
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08/02/13 11:24 AM
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Re: Running your dog in September
[Re: Cluck]
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08/02/13 01:03 PM
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Ducks only for my guy now. Plus he'll be in Wyoming preparing for the master national. #humblebrag Sweet!! Brag on!
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Re: Running your dog in September
[Re: Ol_Yeller]
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08/02/13 02:49 PM
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I can't put on my brush pants withoug my dog jumping around ready to go. He's in for dove.
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Re: Running your dog in September
[Re: Sniper John]
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08/02/13 06:25 PM
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Guy
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Dove have little if no scent, especially in the heat – Yeah yeah I know, your dog is great. I’ll be the honest one and say many times I can find the dove better myself with a good mark and picking your shots. I have seen my dog standing right next to a dove and could not find it.
Don't tell that to my blind dog. She has no trouble. But Vizsla's overall do have better scenting ability that retrievers. Pointers in general do have better scenting ability than retrievers. But dove having little scent and combination of heat is not something I just made up.. "As a dog’s body temperature increases, he or she will pant more heavily decreasing sensitivity to smell. A dove has very little scent to begin with and when a dog is panting heavily it can run right over a downed dove in the field, especially a heavily vegetated field such as an recently cut corn or milo field. " http://www.sportdog.com/hunting-training-tips/dove-season-and-gun-dogs"Doves put out little scent and in combination with the heat of September and the excitement of the situation, can challenge, if not completely destroy, a young dog’s mental capacities and confidence." http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/gun-dogs/2011/09/how-run-your-retriever-during-dove-seasonMy dog has no problem find ducks, but dove is challenge. Wounded dove even in high vegetation she finds great, she has surprised me many times. But a dead dove, she struggles. Using a blind fold to train and with dove is a good idea. I also don't dove hunt with my dog in the heat because she is a lot older now, so I baby her more now.
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Re: Running your dog in September
[Re: Sniper John]
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08/02/13 08:10 PM
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Re: Running your dog in September
[Re: Dave Speer]
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08/02/13 08:57 PM
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I don't hunt unless my dog can go with me. Even with the heat and the decreased ability to sniff out a downed dove he has a much better recovery rate than I do...I also can't stand the look on his face when I walk out with my shotgun case and boots on. If I leave him home once I think he will go on an all out strike on me!! No more birds for you!!
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Re: Running your dog in September
[Re: Bill_OA]
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08/02/13 10:05 PM
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Sniper John...you'rre killin me so f funny!!!
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Re: Running your dog in September
[Re: Guy]
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08/03/13 12:46 PM
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Well, if it was on the internet it must be true!
Dove have little if no scent, especially in the heat – Yeah yeah I know, your dog is great. I’ll be the honest one and say many times I can find the dove better myself with a good mark and picking your shots. I have seen my dog standing right next to a dove and could not find it.
Don't tell that to my blind dog. She has no trouble. But Vizsla's overall do have better scenting ability that retrievers. Pointers in general do have better scenting ability than retrievers. But dove having little scent and combination of heat is not something I just made up.. "As a dog’s body temperature increases, he or she will pant more heavily decreasing sensitivity to smell. A dove has very little scent to begin with and when a dog is panting heavily it can run right over a downed dove in the field, especially a heavily vegetated field such as an recently cut corn or milo field. " http://www.sportdog.com/hunting-training-tips/dove-season-and-gun-dogs"Doves put out little scent and in combination with the heat of September and the excitement of the situation, can challenge, if not completely destroy, a young dog’s mental capacities and confidence." http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/gun-dogs/2011/09/how-run-your-retriever-during-dove-seasonMy dog has no problem find ducks, but dove is challenge. Wounded dove even in high vegetation she finds great, she has surprised me many times. But a dead dove, she struggles. Using a blind fold to train and with dove is a good idea. I also don't dove hunt with my dog in the heat because she is a lot older now, so I baby her more now.
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Re: Running your dog in September
[Re: Brad B]
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08/03/13 01:09 PM
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Re: Running your dog in September
[Re: Tex-x]
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08/03/13 03:13 PM
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Unless i'm hunting over water i usually just hunt him in the mornings.... even then i will take a frozen 1gal milk jug of water to let him lay up against or lick to cool off.
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Re: Running your dog in September
[Re: jrg_80]
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08/03/13 03:20 PM
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I don't hunt without a dog.
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Re: Running your dog in September
[Re: scalebuster]
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08/03/13 04:12 PM
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I won't take a dog if the temp is over 90, or unless we are near water. It's not worth risking.
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Re: Running your dog in September
[Re: Erichugh22]
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08/03/13 05:53 PM
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Love taking my dogs dove hunting.
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Re: Running your dog in September
[Re: Txbrushpopper]
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08/03/13 06:04 PM
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This will be my dog's first season at 10 months old. I will dove hunt him once or twice this year but won't have him out there the entire time. 5 birds or so then put him up. He's still too wound up to sit for long periods. Majority of this year will be upland.
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Re: Running your dog in September
[Re: Brad B]
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08/03/13 08:43 PM
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Guy
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Well, if it was on the internet it must be true!
Its common knowledge. And as I posted above, I'm have seen it first hand with my dog.
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Re: Running your dog in September
[Re: Guy]
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08/03/13 09:16 PM
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If your dog has been hanging out all summer at the foot of your bed, then no.
If he is an out side dog and you actually work him why not. Just have to be more careful. If you actually have a handle on your dog and he doesn't break then he shouldn't be running around like a mad man.
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Re: Running your dog in September
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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08/29/13 08:30 PM
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Old thread, I know, but ...
Never had any problems with my golden finding dove, either. She's very methodical, though, so maybe it's the hard charging dogs that have an issue. Belle won't win any speed retrieve or dock dog contests, but she'll still hammer a rooster trying to high-tail it through the weeds. The only dove, duck or pheasant she's ever lost was a winged diver that played peek-a-boo with her until I finally called her back. She gave me dirty looks the rest of that morning...
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Re: Running your dog in September
[Re: Frogs97]
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08/29/13 09:19 PM
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He's ready and is a hunting machine 
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Re: Running your dog in September
[Re: sallysue]
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08/29/13 09:39 PM
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Limit is 15, most birds will be within 50 yds, round trip of 100 yds so we are talking 1500 yds, so the dog is traveling less than 9/10ths of a mile. This is not at a dead run. A miniature poodle can cover a mile. If you can walk out to collect the birds but your dog can't, you have a dog that is in need of a personal trainer.
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Re: Running your dog in September
[Re: Guy]
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08/29/13 09:45 PM
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I just gave you a bunch of reasons. Not included within your list of reasons are my top 4 - 5: Hunters who may cause canine heat stroke resulting from too much sun and too much running for a typically out-of-condition animal Hunters failure to provide adequate shade Hunters Failure to keep the dawg well hydrated including large bottle or two of frozen water in the bowls to keep the water cold Hunters who don't clean their dawg's mouth after a retrieve allowing them to swallow sharp pin feathers that are easily ingested into the lungs.
Cappy ... At my side for thirteen years, in my heart forever. 
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Re: Running your dog in September
[Re: Cappy_TX]
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08/29/13 10:00 PM
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Y'all just be damn careful in the evenings. My dog lives outside and we run drills in the evening all the time when its hot.
I nearly killed her last year. It was 90* and I just had to take her. She stroked on me and nearly died- seizured out, full blown heat stroke. I had water out for her but she's high drive and didnt care to drink around all the shooting and birds falling. After a night at the vet she checked out fine and the vet even commented how she was in good shape, I just shouldn't have ran her in that kind of heat.
Now, I only hunt mornings if the evening temps are over 85* and I make her drink after ever couple retrieves, put ice in her water like cappy touched on.
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Re: Running your dog in September
[Re: Erichugh22]
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08/31/13 04:13 AM
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I'll be taking mine...not hard to tell when your dog has had enough or needs a break.
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Re: Running your dog in September
[Re: TXDEERHUNTER10]
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08/31/13 01:54 PM
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Just take slow and watch all your dogs have water so they can get into. I have a kiddie pool full so they can dip in if go some place else I take an ice chest full
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