Curly,

these might as well have spots for us b/c they will all get to walk. Thought about shooting the last one, he just didn't jump from 4.5-5.5 like he should have, so going to give him another yr to survive under ARs as a 15-16" wide buck. I just love how we can sit on 276 acres and let a bunch of deer walk because ARs will keep the neighbors from shooting them.

I would just like to know, how exactly you guys tell the difference between 12" and 13" at 50-100yards open sights?
I've measured 12 deer on people walls in East Texas that
were held in high esteem and called trophies. 4 were over 13", the rest around 12". Used to be a trophy was any deer with a good set on him. Now meat hunters go without meat in the freezer cause the state has made us all Trophy huhter. I still believe a man that owns a few acres in the woods should be able to put some meat on his table without worrying about being an outlaw.

How are you seeing deer on one side of a fence but Seadog is seeing nothing? HF?

Also, how wide are saying these deer are? No need to comment on the first or last.

the one's quoted with this are 76 miles from Seadog (and not HF and yearling are going to be under 13...the rest are over, but not getting shot at...which is my statement that hunting to get nice deer is a risk if you don't have a fence up..and even then it's still a risk, but a much lower one with the acreage mentioned)...down there across from Seadog, it used to be HFed, but you can't tell a fence was ever there in most places due to loggers, tornados and hurricanes, but the place across from Seadog has been managed and culled on since the 60s (it's roughly 12K acres and at one point was 26K acres before splitting it up). Those deer down there are a product of their environment because of Temple running with naturally regenerated forest since the first loggers (lowery's) cut the majority of it back in the early 1900s.

Are the "meat hunters" in East Texas not allowed to kill a doe?? All the pics i've seen on here show deer under corn feeders. Where are the protein feeders?? True, you can't control what eats out of a gravity flow P.F., but over time it helps. Protein today doesn't get you large antlers overnight.

Letsgo - You're wasting your time. All these guys are convinced that there isn't a single deer in their county that would break 13 inches if it were 20 years old.

Yep if we are lucky enough to see one during doe days. I didn't but luckily, we are under the LAMPS program and we had one LAMPS permit left and I got to use it a couple weekends ago to take a doe. Most of the hunters on our lease feed protein every year starting in early Spring but we don't put cameras out then because it's not deer season and most don't make it out there enough to check the cameras that time of year anyway. So you're not gonna see pictures of deer eating protein. Ever think that protein can add mass and length but not always width to a buck's antlers?.

Yep if we are lucky enough to see one during doe days. I didn't but luckily, we are under the LAMPS program and we had one LAMPS permit left and I got to use it a couple weekends ago to take a doe. Most of the hunters on our lease feed protein every year starting in early Spring but we don't put cameras out then because it's not deer season and most don't make it out there enough to check the cameras that time of year anyway. So you're not gonna see pictures of deer eating protein. Ever think that protein can add mass and length but not always width to a buck's antlers?.