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Re: Dadgum ARs!!!
[Re: Curly]
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11/17/10 07:50 PM
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Naaaaa, I love watching the bickering...just like you do.I'm just surprised it wasn't a high fence thread. Sure I could complain about our President, but what difference would it make. The only thing I can do is keep voting for a Republican and keep my fingers crossed.
If you shoot a young deer because a neighbor will shoot it, you are that neighbor.
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Re: Dadgum ARs!!!
[Re: Tye]
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11/17/10 08:08 PM
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Naaaaa, I love watching the bickering...just like you do.I'm just surprised it wasn't a high fence thread. Sure I could complain about our President, but what difference would it make. The only thing I can do is keep voting for a Republican and keep my fingers crossed. Why would someone in favor and support of more government control especially more control over recreational activities taking place on private land vote republican. That's about as left wing liberal democrat stance as you can get. The almighty antler sure make some folks
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Re: Dadgum ARs!!!
[Re: Rustler]
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11/17/10 08:17 PM
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Naaaaa, I love watching the bickering...just like you do.I'm just surprised it wasn't a high fence thread. Sure I could complain about our President, but what difference would it make. The only thing I can do is keep voting for a Republican and keep my fingers crossed. Why would someone in favor and support of more government control especially more control over recreational activities taking place on private land vote republican. That's about as left wing liberal democrat stance as you can get. The almighty antler sure make some folks It is just like "Obama money". But it's Obama deer. 
"If age structure is deemed to be valuable to management,...What percentage change in age structure or condition does TPWD recognize that it needs to detect in order to trigger a regulatory change?  TPWD
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Re: Dadgum ARs!!!
[Re: Rustler]
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11/17/10 08:19 PM
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Thats the way I am. Sorry. I sure would love to shoot 30 doves every time I go out, but the law says I can't. So I don't. Should I complain about it? I don't duck hunt, but isn't there a limit to the types of ducks you can shoot? What about slot limits on lakes for bass?
I don't like the gov'mnt being in my business just like you don't. But I separate wildlife harvest rules from the gov'mnt taxing me more money so that some people that don't want to work get food stamps and free health care.
If you shoot a young deer because a neighbor will shoot it, you are that neighbor.
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Re: Dadgum ARs!!!
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11/17/10 08:27 PM
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We're in Mills county and I too am all for the AR. Look at all the responses crying about can't shoot a deer because of AR! There's a lot of folks on here that would have already taken that 1.5 -2.5 year old buck. No.....the buck I'm mad that I can't take because of even further government regulations is one almost identical to this which was the subject of this thread..... http://www.texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1834754/1Just a bit of a difference than the picture you were painting, no? FWIW....this buck would be a PRIMARY target for ANY game management plan worth their salt, either high fence or low.
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Re: Dadgum ARs!!!
[Re: Tye]
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11/17/10 08:56 PM
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Thats the way I am. Sorry. I sure would love to shoot 30 doves every time I go out, but the law says I can't. So I don't. Should I complain about it? I don't duck hunt, but isn't there a limit to the types of ducks you can shoot? What about slot limits on lakes for bass?
I don't like the gov'mnt being in my business just like you don't. But I separate wildlife harvest rules from the gov'mnt taxing me more money so that some people that don't want to work get food stamps and free health care. Ok all the laws you are refering too are to INCREASE Quantity NOT percieved quality....
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Re: Dadgum ARs!!!
[Re: nogeese]
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11/17/10 09:29 PM
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Thats the way I am. Sorry. I sure would love to shoot 30 doves every time I go out, but the law says I can't. So I don't. Should I complain about it? I don't duck hunt, but isn't there a limit to the types of ducks you can shoot? What about slot limits on lakes for bass?
I don't like the gov'mnt being in my business just like you don't. But I separate wildlife harvest rules from the gov'mnt taxing me more money so that some people that don't want to work get food stamps and free health care. Ok all the laws you are refering too are to INCREASE Quantity NOT percieved quality.... The USFWS has granted approval for the Central Flyway to conduct a multi-year trial of the Hunter's Choice bag limit beginning with the 2006-2007 season. The purpose of the Hunter's Choice Bag Limit is to limit or reduce harvest on those species needing additional protection while maintaining full hunting opportunity (season length and bag limit) on more abundant species or stocks of ducks (e.g., drake mallards). Isn't that the same in trying to protect the 1.5 and 2.5 year old deer while still allowing a season bag limit and season length? Like I mentioned earlier, I'm not a duck hunter but It looks like some ducks arfe considered to be more "quality" than others? Aren't mallard drakes,pintail and wood ducks sought after more than Gadwals? By the way, I had to pass on a bull moose in BC because it only had 2 points on the front and not 3. I never saw one with 3 or more points on the front so I came home empty handed. Poor me and the Canadian Gov't sucks for creating such a law to improve the quality/age of their animals.  I didn't have a problem with it and that was the only time I have had the chance to hunt Moose. Or what about the guys that hunt sheep and have to pass on animals with less than a 3/4-full curl to improve the quality and age?
If you shoot a young deer because a neighbor will shoot it, you are that neighbor.
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Re: Dadgum ARs!!!
[Re: Curly]
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11/17/10 09:33 PM
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 to the Antler Restriction Haters Club! I'm a member, right? 
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Re: Dadgum ARs!!!
[Re: rifleman]
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11/17/10 09:37 PM
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Re: Dadgum ARs!!!
[Re: Curly]
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11/17/10 09:50 PM
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gracias  Just in our area, folks need to understand that not all properties are created equal....can't expect a broad blanket program to work everywhere. If folks want better and have a legit gripe to expect better out of a deer herd, they should be able to do something about it on their own. I see it as a joke because of the spike tag and added doe days for most of the counties....if folks are having heck finding decent deer...sure adding those will help. 
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Re: Dadgum ARs!!!
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11/17/10 09:52 PM
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The USFWS has granted approval for the Central Flyway to conduct a multi-year trial of the Hunter's Choice bag limit beginning with the 2006-2007 season. The purpose of the Hunter's Choice Bag Limit is to limit or reduce harvest on those species needing additional protection while maintaining full hunting opportunity (season length and bag limit) on more abundant species or stocks of ducks (e.g., drake mallards).
Isn't that the same in trying to protect the 1.5 and 2.5 year old deer while still allowing a season bag limit and season length? UH... NO Dude....  the ducks are limited in the NUMBER YOU can shoot not how long their bill is... Like I mentioned earlier, I'm not a duck hunter but It looks like some ducks arfe considered to be more "quality" than others? Aren't mallard drakes,pintail and wood ducks sought after more than Gadwals?
Well actually the Mallard is the most populus duck there is so it is really more of an oddity to shoot a gadwall than a mallard. However with duck hunting the hunter is ALLOWED to shoot 6 mallards or 6 gadwalls... By the way, I had to pass on a bull moose in BC because it only had 2 points on the front and not 3. I never saw one with 3 or more points on the front so I came home empty handed. Poor me and the Canadian Gov't sucks for creating such a law to improve the quality/age of their animals.  I didn't have a problem with it and that was the only time I have had the chance to hunt Moose. I could care less about canada and their laws because its not my country and not my state, but instead of paying a guide in canada, perhaps you should give all that money to some high fence ranch here in Texas and shoot a real "buck of a lifetime"  Or what about the guys that hunt sheep and have to pass on animals with less than a 3/4-full curl to improve the quality and age?
well this is a perfect example of two wrongs must make it right 
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Re: Dadgum ARs!!!
[Re: rifleman]
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11/17/10 09:52 PM
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gracias  Just in our area, folks need to understand that not all properties are created equal....can't expect a broad blanket program to work everywhere. If folks want better and have a legit gripe to expect better out of a deer herd, they should be able to do something about it on their own. I see it as a joke because of the spike tag and added doe days for most of the counties....if folks are having heck finding decent deer...sure adding those will help. From what I'm being told by those in the know (you know who you are, haha)....the spike tag and added doe days were put in place to shut us brown it's down cry babies up. 
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Re: Dadgum ARs!!!
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11/17/10 10:00 PM
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partially....the other part is you still have folks making decisions because they believe the Kerr studies and don't take them for what they are....A manual on how to line breed crap into a herd in a controlled setting.
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Re: Dadgum ARs!!!
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11/17/10 10:06 PM
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Well Nogeese, I can't help ya. Go get on MLD if you are so tired of the government telling you what you can or can not shoot. At least you have that as an option. I don't need to give my money to a High fenced place...We own one. Thats why I don't have a dog in this fight and how its ironic that I support them. 
If you shoot a young deer because a neighbor will shoot it, you are that neighbor.
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Re: Dadgum ARs!!!
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11/17/10 10:09 PM
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Well Nogeese, I can't help ya. Go get on MLD if you are so tired of the government telling you what you can or can not shoot. At least you have that as an option.
then you have to hold their hand and wipe for them. I don't get paid anything for doing "their" job. 
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Re: Dadgum ARs!!!
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11/17/10 10:11 PM
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here is the high fence buck I shot last Friday. 
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Re: Dadgum ARs!!!
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11/17/10 10:13 PM
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here is the high fence buck I shot last Friday. Can't tell from the pic, looks like a yearling with an unbranched antler????Point is? We pass on those.
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Re: Dadgum ARs!!!
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11/17/10 10:14 PM
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I was wanting an age and score 
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Re: Dadgum ARs!!!
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11/17/10 10:17 PM
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I was wanting an age and score AGE? As old as hes going to get SCORE? add up the length of your fingers and toes and you'll be close. 
If you shoot a young deer because a neighbor will shoot it, you are that neighbor.
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Re: Dadgum ARs!!!
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11/17/10 10:24 PM
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I was wanting an age and score AGE? As old as hes going to get SCORE? add up the length of your fingers and toes and you'll be close. so I should have shot the 22in 14 with a drop tine instead?
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Re: Dadgum ARs!!!
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11/17/10 10:24 PM
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Re: Dadgum ARs!!!
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I was wanting an age and score AGE? As old as hes going to get SCORE? add up the length of your fingers and toes and you'll be close. so I should have shot the 22in 14 with a drop tine instead? How old was the 22" 14 with a drop?  That buck you shot could have been that 14 pts offspring? I don't care what you shoot or don't shoot. It won't affect me one way or the other. The only thing it affects is that you will see one less buck next year. I don't shoot spikes
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Re: Dadgum ARs!!!
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11/17/10 10:41 PM
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yea well, I will have to shoot him next time because I cant shoot another spike which I would prefer... 
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Re: Dadgum ARs!!!
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11/17/10 10:46 PM
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yea well, I will have to shoot him next time because I cant shoot another spike which I would prefer... Lord forbid u leave a buck tag in ur pocket.
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Re: Dadgum ARs!!!
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yea well, I will have to shoot him next time because I cant shoot another spike which I would prefer... Lord forbid u leave a buck tag in ur pocket. I paid for it so I am gonna use it... do you pay for a full tank of gas and only take half a tank?
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