I can respect your opinion on what you want to achieve with no problems. I want to know the benifet that the state is trying to achieve with this implementation?



Maybe the state see's more money from out of state hunters with bigger deer. I don't know. I just know that I like to see the deer on my place get better ever year.


There you go you hit it right in the head. The TPWD does not care Squat about the herd its all about the antlers and money nothing else. The TPWD always cries about the fact that we are losing hunters in the state. Maybe they should try regulating what a leasers charge to hunt thier land (boy there would be and uproar there). For me I have seen more of my friends give up on hunting because of the increase in prices. This in turn hurts everything in my opinion. So there with that said its all about the money!

[quote=helomech]
No what I am saying is you see post on here about people saying the land owners want so many does shot this season, I am sure those hunters are not just shooting older does, they are wacking any slick head that walks out.

Now when I look to shoot a doe I just go with the fattest one, if she is 2 years old, oh well.

Wider antlers are better for the herd.

Word.....anter restrictions = better antlers = more trophies = more $......who can argue with that?

Of course everything is about money. I didn't even realize that money was not agree upon by all of us already. I am sure public outcry pays a part also, but we all know money talks.

Not asking what the norm is. I am asking if you think it is better for the herd if the older ones are taken?

I guess, when you say herd I think of my dads cows. I hunt a small place not much bigger than yours, so different deer come and go. It's hard to hunt a specific deer most years. Congrats on being able to take the deer you picked out. If you only had the opp to shoot young does this year, would you still have taken them? I bet you would cause you want to fill that freezer.

On my land we only try to take the older does, or a doe with an injury. My goal is to take any that are injured first, then the oldest ones around second. We are not shooting young healthy ones even if it means not getting a doe.

My idea....it was okay the way it was.....wasn't a problem enough to impose the rule in the first place, I was taking deer big and small, male and female just the same then as now, only now it's tougher, I think I see even less total deer now than then...but that's me and my ideas....this message has been approved and sponsored by Curly. 10pointers and WhiskeyD, let's go have a drink and talk about old times.

I thought you didn't believe AR's would make bigger antlers? I seem to remember you saying that all the smaller ones would be breeding and all the bigger ones would be shot early. Having a hard time keeping up with you.

I'll buy the first round.

OK now were getting somewhere. Think about this real hard before you answer. By your above statement the AR rules that were implemented are total BS and are a worthless rule! Correct? Its all about the money right

keep LYAO, i dont even take money into consideration as far as the tpwd is concerned. my concern is trying to outsmart that older, mature buck thats worth paying to mount on the wall. and it is hard to do but thts the sport if it. anyone can get meat, few can get trophy's. it all depends on what your after.

Okay, hang with me a minute here....shooting young spikes (which is legal) is not helping young deer mature yet it is illegal to shoot young basket racked bucks anymore, which lets them possibly grow into trophies, providing they don't do the East Texas thick, tall and narrow antler growth routine. You may have a hard time keeping up with my logic but I have a hard time keeping up with the TP&W's logic. My logic means squat, TP&W's logic is the word of God, so don't worry about keeping up with little old Curly.

I'm sleepy. I'm going to bed and dreaming of the good old days of deer hunting.....until tomorrow.....adios.

No I would not have taken a young doe. I would have just hunted harder, or filled my freezer with hogs.

Just trying to understand why you don't like them. Not trying to be a jerk or anything else. I was just pointing out you have said different things. If you believe they won't grow bigger deer fine, just trying to figure out which way you believe.

So by this method you follow, you could go possibly 3 years without shooting a single deer.

hey helomech, keep trying for that older deer theyre tough to figure out. i hunt in south parker co. and at the beginning of bow season i had a 150 class 10 pt on camera at night twice and once one morning and havent seen him in person yet. 3and1/2 weeks ago i drew back on a 130 class 10pt 3 times and let him go because of the other ten. the 150 class ten showed up on my camera on thanksgiving night at 1:50 am and havent seen either one since. did i make a mistake by not flinging one at the 130, maybe but thats hunting and if i dont o well thats what does are for, but not basket 6,7,or 8s.if we dont let them grow, we'll never know!