Silver Lab..Good pedigree.....

That's an oxymoron, to have a silver lab with a good pedigree.

You won't find a silver lab,..., with a pedigree any better than, "He's a good hunting dog".

I'm looking for a chocolate or silver lab stud with good pedigree for my chocolate lab. She will be 3yrs old in dec. I live in Big Spring Tx. Thank you.

Not wanting to step on any toes or stir the pot at all. But I feel that these statements are simply not true. Again not trying or going to get into a pissing match either, just stating how I see it.


It’s not an oxymoron at all. I’ll show you... Simply speaking, would you say that you have seen a chocolate lab with a “good” pedigree? If you said yes, then you just debunked your own statement. Technically speaking silver labs are registered as chocolates and could have just as good of a pedigree as the next chocolate lab.


I disagree with this as well. Just as the first part of your statement, If you can find a choc lab with a pedigree better than ”He’s a good huntin dog” then you can just as likely find a pedigree for a silver as well. I’ve seen 2 titled silver labs if my memory serves me correctly. I’ll try to find them. And yes I know just because it has the title it doesn’t mean its worthy of being called a hunting dog. blah blah blah

On a side note. At one point in history there were no yellow or chocolate labs. They were viewed in that time just as you are viewing the silvers and reds now. Yellow and choc’s were culled because they thought they were inferior to the blacks. Well at some point (actually in 1899) the first yellow lab was recognized in the national registry (Ben of Hyde). It wasent until the 1930’s that people began to accept the chocolate and allow them to be registered. So if you believe that the color of the coat as being silver or white or red does not make them a Labrador you are sadly mistaken. Intensive genetic testing has proven time and time again that these “shades” of colors as just as much of a lab as your blacks, yellows and chocolates.

I’ve seen 2 titled silver labs if my memory serves me correctly. I’ll try to find them. And yes I know just because it has the title it doesn’t mean its worthy of being called a hunting dog. blah blah blah

Mud, I agree with you that almost all silvers are bred simply for their color. I'm not denying that, nor am I going to argue with you on that. But then again, so are a lot of reds and whites as well. But are they still labs? YES. And that was the point that I was trying to make. They are still labradors and can still preform to the same standards as labradors that have "good" pedigrees. Personally, I think its important to tell people all of the facts and try to not be biased if they are going to make statements like ShotGun did. I know everyone has a right to say what they want. But if you spend a little time to educate people and let them make a decision based on what you have told them, I think you are doing the industry a favor.


SO..
Are silvers still Labs? yeah they are.

Can they still hunt and have a good pedigree? yeah they can.

Are you getting ripped off spending >$1000 on a silver lab, well thats up to you. But yeah probably if your looking for a great hunting retriever. $1000 could buy a hell of a black lab thats already trained and possibly even titled.

Mud, I agree with you that almost all silvers are bred simply for their color. I'm not denying that, nor am I going to argue with you on that. But then again, so are a lot of reds and whites as well. But are they still labs? YES. And that was the point that I was trying to make. They are still labradors and can still preform to the same standards as labradors that have "good" pedigrees. Personally, I think its important to tell people all of the facts and try to not be biased if they are going to make statements like ShotGun did. I know everyone has a right to say what they want. But if you spend a little time to educate people and let them make a decision based on what you have told them, I think you are doing the industry a favor.


SO..
Are silvers still Labs? yeah they are.

Can they still hunt and have a good pedigree? yeah they can.

Are you getting ripped off spending >$1000 on a silver lab, well thats up to you. But yeah probably if your looking for a great hunting retriever. $1000 could buy a hell of a black lab thats already trained and possibly even titled.

they were inferior to the blacks.

Still are.

True

Show me a silver lab with a good pedigree, sired by an MH, QAA, FC, AFC, and a dam with a JH or better, hell show me a silver lab sired by a SH. Not going to happen you can't show me a proven "good" pedigree with a silver as the offspring product. That isn't going to happen. There is not a single silver lab with a pedigree that isn't primarily made up of unproven "hunting dogs". Could there be field titles five generations back, yes, but that was bred out in exchange for color.

Silver labs are bred for color alone, not for ability, drive, health reasons, just color......