This is interesting enough of a topic to have it's own thread. Is the death penalty a deterrent to violent crime? (other than the person executed)

Could it be a notable and better deterrent if we went medieval with it in the USA?

Would that be a good idea?

The best deterrents are those with high probability and swift application. Execution for a crime 25 years ago may make the victim’s family feel better, but has little deterrent value.

We don’t have to execute although public after due process would be great, in mean time our prison system should be feared. There is currently nothing fear full about our prison system

deters the prisoner being offed for sure. should happen quicker not 20-25yrs later agree.

In Israel, there are instances where families face consequences for the actions of their relatives, particularly in cases involving security concerns or crimes. For example, the demolition of homes belonging to families of individuals accused of terrorism has been a controversial practice.

People who study these things say that it is the likelihood of getting caught that deters people, more than the severity of the punishment. That is why no matter how high we put the penalties for drug smuggling, for instance, people are still going to cross the border with dope everyday. They don't care how harsh the punishment is, because they don't think they will get caught.

It seems really unlikely to me that someone will consider murder, calculate that they are ok getting caught and spending the rest of their life in prison, but would not be willing to commit the murder if they would be executed. Criminals either don't think they will get caught, or don't think things through at all. Nobody who rationally considers the consequences for a major crime will go through with it, if they think they will suffer that punishment. Though some folks are just plain crazy...

Dont care if it does or not. Take an innocent life we take yours.

If punishment was swift then yes it’s a deterrent.

Any kind of murder or sexual crime = death penalty. Simple hanging would suffice.

Theft, burglary, etc. = hard labor in a prison camp


But I agree, killing a convicted murder 25 years after the crime….sorts pointless in many ways

IIRC the past 'normal' time on death row was 10 yrs due to lawyers appeals.

When I get elected president, we're going to pass a law that three years to the day after your conviction, regardless of the state of your appeals, we march you down the hall to the gas chamber and hook you up. If the appeals process needs to be faster, then hire more judges and get the backlog cleared. In the case of egregious crimes, with a massive preponderance of evidence or even caught on video, we march you straight out following the reading of the verdict.

I like it. Only problem is that they should make them suffer while dying. Killing them is too easy on the worthless basta*ds.

If the justice system could be trusted 100% then maybe. But evil will still flourish until Jesus returns, and evil doesnt follow law and isn’t deterred by good people trying to make a place better.

But the big “but” here is, the justice system can not be trusted. We have the best system in the world. But it is still
subject to a lot of corruption, bias, prejudice, and lawlessness itself.

I have been on the wrong end of the first two or three. It wasnt fun. It was all over turned on appeal, but if the appellate court wasn’t there because the judgement was due within 48hrs of sentencing, i would be a slave to an evil evil man to the tune of 4.5M dollars for doing absolutely nothing except making that man a lot of money over the years.

As it was, i was his slave for 9 months and that was torture enough. The justice system is certainly not perfect and should not be trusted.

It depends on the type of criminal. Some of them could care less if they live or die. Most do though.

I've known several prison corrections officers of TDCJ
and a couple of county deputy sheriffs working in the
jail end of it
They all agree that a majority reoffend and are repeatedly
seen back for more.
Rehabilitation/prison reform has had many years to
prove it's worth, and it has not.
It's a tough thing for many to acknowledge, but there are
people in the world that are no good and are a danger in
varying degrees to innocent citizens who shouldn't be
subject to the whims of criminals.
I know of a few that don't want to be rehabilitated and
enjoy being impaired and get a thrill from crime.
One just recently was sent back for the umpteenth time
for 6 to 10 for whatever he had his warrants out from.
County sheriff's out here repeatedly looking for him
last year before he boo booed and got caught.

Get these career thugs off the taxpayer's dime and
put them down and stop spending scarce resources
them.
Executions don't have to cost any more than what
a single round of 22LR would cost.
No sense in spending thousands to put a nuisance
out of order.
No sense in allowing 20 years of appeals

I was specifically talking about a murder that had lots of witnesses. No speaking about medieval methods, although I’m good with it but taken slightly out of context.

It’s all about accountability and swift action. It would lower violent crime.

Way I see it is like culling. Death penalty doesn’t fix or make the rest any better but removes the problem from the group.

The best prevention is having the animals in a cage to begin with so they can’t murder innocents. I had to deal with criminals that had been given prison sentences that would have made them elderly when released but the parole board would let them out long before that. Combine that with large county DA’s giving them minimum sentences and we have what we have.

Kill them in the same way they killed the innocent. Also allow the family to do it if they would like.

Execute them swiftly, publicly and make the prisons a living hell!

We had a serial killer here in Texas who killed three teenagers in 1966, sentenced to death, death sentence overturned, released 1989 and went on to kidnap and kill numerous other people. The second time the state got it right. He should be the poster child on why you cannot rehabilitate these folks or make them useful members of society, I won't mention the killer's name, he doesn't deserve to be mentioned by name. Most Americans don't get to see these animals up close and personal like some of us have; so, prevention, well, he won't kill anyone else that's for sure.

Probably not but it is justice. People complain about the amount it costs to keep these people locked up. To me it is money well spent to keep these animals in a secure cage where they belong instead of out amongst the sheep.

If the jails were like the Venezuelan jails that would help. Ours are a country club to the habitual criminals. I remember seeing the "chain gangs" in Arkansas using sling blades to cut the weeds on the edges of highways with the guards watching them and that made an impression on me. Bringing stuff like that back might help some.

They used to have what was called the Tucker Telephone.

https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entries/tucker-telephone-4923/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tucker_Telephone

today's death penalty is a joke. We spend millions before these F's are finally put to death.

Found guilty and sentenced to death???

Immediate execution.

Make prison miserable. too.

I'd be more willing to support immediate execution without appeals if we didn't convict so many innocent people. We need to speed up the process and make it cheaper, but only in cases with less room for doubt. Maybe have a fast lane for cases that have more than one piece of hard evidence - DNA, video, prints on the murder weapon, etc. Eye witness identification is too unreliable to skip the appeals.