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Re: Seed oils and refined sugars and grains linked to chronic pain and inflammation? [Re: MacDaddy21] #9204342 03/29/25 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MacDaddy21
Good for you, 10 Gauge. That is awesome progress. I've been eating this way for years, and have never felt better. I eat 10-12 eggs a day, organic ground bison, wild caught salmon and cod, Greek yogurt with fruit and honey, etc. I lift 6 days a week, and work keeps me pretty active (commercial construction Superintendent). I'm at the point where my body only craves these foods. I did a strict carnivore diet 2 years ago for about 8 months. I've never been leaner than I was then. It was impressive how much fat I lost eating 2.5-3 lbs of beef a day with eggs. Considering doing that again for a few months, but haven't decided yet.

Keep up the great work! In my experience, you'll only continue making progress and feeling better.


Thank you sir


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Re: Seed oils and refined sugars and grains linked to chronic pain and inflammation? [Re: 10 Gauge] #9204350 03/29/25 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 10 Gauge
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About what I expected. I’m sure garden organic is an extremely scientific site with a lot of peer reviewed evidence lol.

Again, there is zero actual scientific evidence saying gmos are in anyway harmful or less healthy. And as someone who works in agriculture research, I want to see science, not opinions.


IT DOESN’T MATTER BECAUSE I WON’T CHANGE YOUR MIND. But here is an article from the NIH.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18989835/


You want to copy the article and send it over since you must have access. That’s just the abstract. Can’t read the actual article without access

Re: Seed oils and refined sugars and grains linked to chronic pain and inflammation? [Re: Dustnsand] #9204351 03/29/25 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Dustnsand
Originally Posted by 10 Gauge
Originally Posted by Dustnsand
About what I expected. I’m sure garden organic is an extremely scientific site with a lot of peer reviewed evidence lol.

Again, there is zero actual scientific evidence saying gmos are in anyway harmful or less healthy. And as someone who works in agriculture research, I want to see science, not opinions.


IT DOESN’T MATTER BECAUSE I WON’T CHANGE YOUR MIND. But here is an article from the NIH.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18989835/


You want to copy the article and send it over since you must have access. That’s just the abstract. Can’t read the actual article without access


Hard pass, you win. Can we move on now?


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Re: Seed oils and refined sugars and grains linked to chronic pain and inflammation? [Re: 10 Gauge] #9204375 03/29/25 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 10 Gauge
Originally Posted by Dustnsand
Originally Posted by 10 Gauge
Originally Posted by Dustnsand
About what I expected. I’m sure garden organic is an extremely scientific site with a lot of peer reviewed evidence lol.

Again, there is zero actual scientific evidence saying gmos are in anyway harmful or less healthy. And as someone who works in agriculture research, I want to see science, not opinions.


IT DOESN’T MATTER BECAUSE I WON’T CHANGE YOUR MIND. But here is an article from the NIH.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18989835/


You want to copy the article and send it over since you must have access. That’s just the abstract. Can’t read the actual article without access


Hard pass, you win. Can we move on now?



My early point is in 50 years there has not been repeatable study showing gmo specific causes issues, in fact the hate has basically proved it’s safe. When you break down the specific gene slices it makes more sense. The insect version uses a bacteria produced protein that’s naturally occurring in the soil, that protein has been used for decades as insect repellent before they found an away to have the plant produce it. Those Proteins are derived from the bacterium Bacillus thuringiensi.

There are mountains of safety data on it. It’s not even toxic to all insects just a certain segment mainly beetles and caterpillars. it disrupts their digestive system. How much does an average bug weigh in grains? What about Human?

Now on to the Herbcide resistance version… they used a naturally occurring protein here also. Select herbicides target a plants EPSPS enzyme, which is crucial for plant growth, preventing them from synthesizing essential amino acids. Scientists found CP4 EPSPS, and its derived from the soil bacterium Agrobacterium sp. strain CP4. This version of EPSPS is resistant to certain herbicides. Thus why certain herbicides don’t kill every plant, naturally or GMO. So all the scientists did was change the EPSPS enzyme in plants they want resistant to certain herbicides.

So while gmo’s sound overly complex when you break it down it’s not. Any way I’m sure this doesn’t change anyone’s mind but just know we are in to GMO now for several decades

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Re: Seed oils and refined sugars and grains linked to chronic pain and inflammation? [Re: 10 Gauge] #9204515 03/29/25 08:45 PM
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Well regardless of GMO or not, the refined grains and sugars, and the seed oils are a no go for me. I got regular sweet taters instead of organic today, they cost half the price.

I don’t buy the grass fed or organic type meat. I think that is a bunch if hooey, when I was growing up the marbled beef was considered the best. You want that good grain finished marbled beef. Not like it matters, when I am eating 90/10 ground sirloin. But I cook steak every weekend and I want that delicious marbled cut of steak 👌


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Re: Seed oils and refined sugars and grains linked to chronic pain and inflammation? [Re: 10 Gauge] #9204535 03/29/25 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 10 Gauge
Well regardless of GMO or not, the refined grains and sugars, and the seed oils are a no go for me. I got regular sweet taters instead of organic today, they cost half the price.

I don’t buy the grass fed or organic type meat. I think that is a bunch if hooey, when I was growing up the marbled beef was considered the best. You want that good grain finished marbled beef. Not like it matters, when I am eating 90/10 ground sirloin. But I cook steak every weekend and I want that delicious marbled cut of steak 👌


I’m pretty much meat and squash/zucchini now, only fruit oil(avocado or olive) .. occasionally will eat sweet potatoes and green beans. Seed oil just tastes heavy and lingering to me. If I’m frying any thing for family it’s in tallow. I buy bryant farms, I think off Amazon

Yes the grass fed is stupid, it’s a play on Omega 3. Grass has twice the omega 3 as fed, but neither give a statistically relevant amount. Double barely nothing is still barely nothing. Don’t have exact numbers but salmon is like 800x more omega per oz of meat than any grass or fed beef.


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Re: Seed oils and refined sugars and grains linked to chronic pain and inflammation? [Re: 10 Gauge] #9204943 03/31/25 03:19 AM
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Seems like my weight still hovers around 319. I might be adding some muscle on the diet, i feel a lot stronger and things are much easier to do. I have settled into a almost daily routine using this easy circuit:

Routine 30 March ‘25

Walk 30 minutes, then complete circuit twice:

Pushups x5 1-2-3-up cadence, explode up hard
Standing shoulder CARS x5 reach hard, get a good strech
Snatch squat x5-8 with strict form
Kneeling Hip CARS 10 sec each side with tight sqeeze
Crunches x25
Supermans x5 with tight squeeze
Cat-cows x5

Keep in mind I do several hours of what most folks consider hard manual labor, about three times a week. Unloading about 35,000-45,000 pounds of boxed freight, not unitized in any manner. Parcels ranging up to approximately 48 pounds.

I have a rep range on the squats because I will bobble or it might take a few good tries before I achieve any kind of depth that feels acceptable.

When I walk, I pretty much keep my chin up and chest out and strut like a big fat tom. I am trying to correct posture. The whole point of this routine is to improve my flexibility and range of motion in my hips, shoulders, and spine and to correct my posture.

No more sitting for hours and scrolling either. It is bad enough to spend hours driving every day. I feel like that seated position with your head down is probably as destructive as any type of high impact activity except with zero benefit.


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315.6 today. Almost 21 pounds down. Increased my reps to 10 on everything.


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youre doing great!!


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I find water intake to be highly over rated for weight loss.

Just drink water when you feel thirsty, no need to drink xxx amount per day.

Good luck on your journey sounds like your headed in right direction.

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