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Seed oils and refined sugars and grains linked to chronic pain and inflammation? #9201413 03/21/25 05:17 PM
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I hurt my back pretty bad about three weeks ago. I could not figure out what I did, but I have never felt pain in my back like this. I have suffered multiple back injuries and herniated pretty much every disk in my spine, more than once, so that’s really saying something. Plus my legs have started swelling on the road, so I started wearing knee high compression socks. I barely was able to unload the truck that Friday.

I had heard about the seed oils linked to pain and inflammation, so next thing you know I started meal prepping about 12 days ago. I cut out all the bullcrap. I did not cut carbs at all, I just switched to organic sweet potatoes and fresh fruit when i can get it on the road. About 2-3 pounds of lean ground sirloin every day, all the delicious sweet carmelized oven roasted sweet taters I want, 5 or 6 whole eggs a day, occasionally a rotisserie chicken. Minimum one gallon of water a day, occasionally some kombucha.

My only exercise aside from unloading 35,000-45,000 pounds of freight three times a week, is to walk 30 minutes and do two easy sets of 5 easy pushups, 5 snatch squats with no weight, and 5-10 seconds hip and shoulder CARs each side, and 5 cat/cows. Maybe 2-3 times a week or whenever I feel like it.

Well i guess I peed all that inflammation and swelling out. I dropped from 336 to 321 in a week, and I don’t need the compression socks anymore. Crazy how that works. I already got some of that youthful vigor back, too. And this is way cheaper than my normal diet of truck stop food- mostly fried chicken, jerky, and starchy sugary snacks and energy drinks.


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That’s very encouraging. Hope for your continued success.


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Cut out breads and sugars and you'll have even more positive results.

A good friend of mine that's 50 years old, dropped 45 pounds of fat and has 6 pack abs. His BP came down, his inflammation went away. He's on the all carnivore diet. Eat the meat and the fat from the beef. Your body switches over from burning sugar and burns fat. It's been an intriguing thing for me to witness him accomplish.


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Re: Seed oils and refined sugars and grains linked to chronic pain and inflammation? [Re: 10 Gauge] #9201471 03/21/25 07:58 PM
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I am convinced that beef is a superfood. A diet high in red meat is gonna give you all the good things for your joints and connective tissues, plus your muscles. Maximum iron, loaded with creatine for your brain and muscles. Maximum fuel for the endocrine system. All the B vitamins.

Beef, mutton, lamb, and venison have always been a staple of the human diet, until the last 100 years. I never get tired of eating it.

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Yes, grains are not as good for you as they say. I don't eat grains or bread and it has really made a difference. Fish or fish oil will help as much as anything. And as 10 Gauge said, red meat!

Use all the olive, coconut, avocado oil you want.

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I don't believe it's the grains necessarily as it is the type of grain and the bread and other products they make out of it, lots of additives. Modern farming and seed genetics isn't necessarily good for us.

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Originally Posted by Paluxy
I don't believe it's the grains necessarily as it is the type of grain and the bread and other products they make out of it, lots of additives. Modern farming and seed genetics isn't necessarily good for us.


I eat alot of rice with no folic acid. Folic acid is in most grains and is 100% a man made chemical. It doesn’t it exist naturally anywhere on earth.

I eat a very simple diet: lot of wild game, beef, rice, fruit, some vegetables and a lot of chicken/fish. I love potato’s but there not that good for you.

Depending on time of year I will eat some bread but will cut that out when it’s summer season.


Beef isn’t a “superfood” ( I hate that hyperbolic term, it makes it sound like these foods have just been discovered or it will make you run farther or jump higher), but it’s something that is available to the average person and should 100% be a part of the diet.

Eat a diet that consists of lean proteins and some simple grains and limit carbs and cut out as much refined sugar as humanly possible and you will feel better. Add in a regimented exercise program and you will look better and feel better.

What the average American believes is a Healthy diet is appalling


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Originally Posted by Paluxy
I don't believe it's the grains necessarily as it is the type of grain and the bread and other products they make out of it, lots of additives. Modern farming and seed genetics isn't necessarily good for us.


I eat alot of rice with no folic acid. Folic acid is in most grains and is 100% a man made chemical. It doesn’t it exist naturally anywhere on earth.

I eat a very simple diet: lot of wild game, beef, rice, fruit, some vegetables and a lot of chicken/fish. I love potato’s but there not that good for you.

Depending on time of year I will eat some bread but will cut that out when it’s summer season.


Beef isn’t a “superfood” ( I hate that hyperbolic term, it makes it sound like these foods have just been discovered or it will make you run farther or jump higher), but it’s something that is available to the average person and should 100% be a part of the diet.

Eat a diet that consists of lean proteins and some simple grains and limit carbs and cut out as much refined sugar as humanly possible and you will feel better. Add in a regimented exercise program and you will look better and feel better.

What the average American believes is a Healthy diet is appalling




You are spot on. Grai s were actually engineered and created by the Egyptians by cross breeding grass. Though it's been around a long time they aren't naturally occurring.

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Believe it or not, Broccoli is man made as well. Blew my mind but it’s not naturally occurring.

Oh, and take 10mg of creatine a day and make sure your getting enough zinc and magnesium. I take 10mg of creatine daily along with ZMA at night.


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I take creatine right before working out every day

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Had a guy tell me last night seed oils cause more mosquito bites and more sunburn. Claims once he moved away from, less bites and burn. Sounds a little farfetched for me but he is a sharp dude so maybe some truth. (At least for him)

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Originally Posted by Mr. 806
Had a guy tell me last night seed oils cause more mosquito bites and more sunburn. Claims once he moved away from, less bites and burn. Sounds a little farfetched for me but he is a sharp dude so maybe some truth. (At least for him)



I've heard about the seed oils and sunburn.


I can't say for sure, but since i elimanted seed oils ( as much as I can ) I do not burn like i used to .


I really stopped wearing sunscreen period many year ago


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Originally Posted by Paluxy
I don't believe it's the grains necessarily as it is the type of grain and the bread and other products they make out of it, lots of additives. Modern farming and seed genetics isn't necessarily good for us.


That’s nonsense. Please enlighten me on how modern farming and seed genetics are bad?

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Originally Posted by Dustnsand
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I don't believe it's the grains necessarily as it is the type of grain and the bread and other products they make out of it, lots of additives. Modern farming and seed genetics isn't necessarily good for us.


That’s nonsense. Please enlighten me on how modern farming and seed genetics are bad?



you don't think GMO is bad?


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I don't believe it's the grains necessarily as it is the type of grain and the bread and other products they make out of it, lots of additives. Modern farming and seed genetics isn't necessarily good for us.


That’s nonsense. Please enlighten me on how modern farming and seed genetics are bad?



you don't think GMO is bad?


Absolutely not. There’s not a single shred of scientific evidence that says they are either

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I can’t say that seed genetics are bad, but adding things like folic acid is definitely bad.


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There is definitely a growing body of scientific evidence that links GMO’s to certain health concerns. You can believe what you want or search for “ gmo crops are linked to health issues such as” on your preferred internet search engine.

You can say the same about all our food, to be completely honest. I will save the grains for my food to feed on.

The question I have is how many people will starve if we stop using modern agricultural practices? The number is higher than zero, and based on that I support GMO’s as long as there are non-GMO alternatives available to me.


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Originally Posted by 10 Gauge
There is definitely a growing body of scientific evidence that links GMO’s to certain health concerns. You can believe what you want or search for “ gmo crops are linked to health issues such as” on your preferred internet search engine.

You can say the same about all our food, to be completely honest. I will save the grains for my food to feed on.

The question I have is how many people will starve if we stop using modern agricultural practices? The number is higher than zero, and based on that I support GMO’s as long as there are non-GMO alternatives available to me.


Provide the articles. What GMO crops are y’all concerned about?

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Originally Posted by Dustnsand
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There is definitely a growing body of scientific evidence that links GMO’s to certain health concerns. You can believe what you want or search for “ gmo crops are linked to health issues such as” on your preferred internet search engine.

You can say the same about all our food, to be completely honest. I will save the grains for my food to feed on.

The question I have is how many people will starve if we stop using modern agricultural practices? The number is higher than zero, and based on that I support GMO’s as long as there are non-GMO alternatives available to me.


Provide the articles. What GMO crops are y’all concerned about?


Look it up, or don’t. You obviously have a smart phone or a computer. Here is a screen shot. Do your own research, you’re grown.

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About what I expected. I’m sure garden organic is an extremely scientific site with a lot of peer reviewed evidence lol.

Again, there is zero actual scientific evidence saying gmos are in anyway harmful or less healthy. And as someone who works in agriculture research, I want to see science, not opinions.

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I am convinced a proper diet is not a hard and fast rule the same for everyone. Its based on blood type. There is a book about the different diets and why for all the blood types

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I am convinced a proper diet is not a hard and fast rule the same for everyone. Its based on blood type. There is a book about the different diets and why for all the blood types



It’s fairly hard and fast.

No blood type is gonna thrive on a diet filled with refined sugar, seed oils, and processed foods.


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Originally Posted by 10 Gauge
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There is definitely a growing body of scientific evidence that links GMO’s to certain health concerns. You can believe what you want or search for “ gmo crops are linked to health issues such as” on your preferred internet search engine.

You can say the same about all our food, to be completely honest. I will save the grains for my food to feed on.

The question I have is how many people will starve if we stop using modern agricultural practices? The number is higher than zero, and based on that I support GMO’s as long as there are non-GMO alternatives available to me.


Provide the articles. What GMO crops are y’all concerned about?


Look it up, or don’t. You obviously have a smart phone or a computer. Here is a screen shot. Do your own research, you’re grown.

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That’s not an article that’s a anti GMO site trying to push correlation as causation

There are two types of GMO one is anti insect other Glyphosate resistant…

Which one is causing issues??


Before you respond, all plants have natural defenses against over consumption, it’s their natural defense, survival mechanisms. The side effects you mention come from all plants/seeds/fruits when eaten in excess


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Good for you, 10 Gauge. That is awesome progress. I've been eating this way for years, and have never felt better. I eat 10-12 eggs a day, organic ground bison, wild caught salmon and cod, Greek yogurt with fruit and honey, etc. I lift 6 days a week, and work keeps me pretty active (commercial construction Superintendent). I'm at the point where my body only craves these foods. I did a strict carnivore diet 2 years ago for about 8 months. I've never been leaner than I was then. It was impressive how much fat I lost eating 2.5-3 lbs of beef a day with eggs. Considering doing that again for a few months, but haven't decided yet.

Keep up the great work! In my experience, you'll only continue making progress and feeling better.

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Originally Posted by Dustnsand
About what I expected. I’m sure garden organic is an extremely scientific site with a lot of peer reviewed evidence lol.

Again, there is zero actual scientific evidence saying gmos are in anyway harmful or less healthy. And as someone who works in agriculture research, I want to see science, not opinions.


IT DOESN’T MATTER BECAUSE I WON’T CHANGE YOUR MIND. But here is an article from the NIH.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18989835/


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