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Taxes on Social Security #9195415 03/05/25 08:56 PM
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This is a pretty good illustration about how little taxes you actually pay on Social Security in retirement.

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I watch him fairly regularly. I guess I’m on his algorithm

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Well, yes, what he's saying is correct for retirees who can get by on SSA with limited IRA or other supplemental income. But most of the tax returns I do for older folks are people who have to continue working during retirement years . . . husband & wife each earning a paycheck turns 85% of their SSA benefits taxable, which translates to a big tax bite on top of the wages or self-employment.


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I don't know about taxes on SS, but I received my backpay today! banana

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Originally Posted by Concho
I don't know about taxes on SS, but I received my backpay today! banana

Wife got her direct deposit pending in bank account last night also! Whoop!
Still waiting on letter for final additional monthly amount, it starts with April payment.



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Just started mine. Over half going to taxes, fair share, medicare, supplement plan, drug plan, etc.


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Re: Taxes on Social Security [Re: Uncle Zeek] #9195788 03/06/25 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Zeek
Well, yes, what he's saying is correct for retirees who can get by on SSA with limited IRA or other supplemental income. But most of the tax returns I do for older folks are people who have to continue working during retirement years . . . husband & wife each earning a paycheck turns 85% of their SSA benefits taxable, which translates to a big tax bite on top of the wages or self-employment.


Sounds like that's not retirement years to me. But I get it. Lots of people wait too long in life to save for retirement or bad decisions prevented them from being able to save very much if any at all. If you can retire early (62), debt free and still live withing your means, you shouldn't have to pay tax on much, if any of it. Eventually RMD will force many into a higher bracket. You may run, but you can`t hide from the tax man forever.


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Originally Posted by TPACK
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Well, yes, what he's saying is correct for retirees who can get by on SSA with limited IRA or other supplemental income. But most of the tax returns I do for older folks are people who have to continue working during retirement years . . . husband & wife each earning a paycheck turns 85% of their SSA benefits taxable, which translates to a big tax bite on top of the wages or self-employment.


Sounds like that's not retirement years to me. But I get it. Lots of people wait too long in life to save for retirement or bad decisions prevented them from being able to save very much if any at all. If you can retire early (62), debt free and still live withing your means, you shouldn't have to pay tax on much, if any of it. Eventually RMD will force many into a higher bracket. You may run, but you can`t hide from the tax man forever.


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Be awful tough to live in the metroplex on 32,000 and that's even with having no mortgage. Property taxes and insurances (auto +home) at most place will eat up half that...then you have utilities and such. I guess if every dollar you ever saved for retirement was ROTH (which for you youngsters, I wish I had done) then it's a different story but 32k ain't much now days.


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I don't draw SS, so I have never looked into it, but should I assume a pension paying well more than 44,000 a year would also take SS payments into the 85% taxable range?

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I fall well above the $44k so this is a big tax bite for me...

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Originally Posted by Sniper John
I don't draw SS, so I have never looked into it, but should I assume a pension paying well more than 44,000 a year would also take SS payments into the 85% taxable range?

Absolutely. That’s where I am with only my govt pension, in addition to my SS.

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Well, yes, what he's saying is correct for retirees who can get by on SSA with limited IRA or other supplemental income. But most of the tax returns I do for older folks are people who have to continue working during retirement years . . . husband & wife each earning a paycheck turns 85% of their SSA benefits taxable, which translates to a big tax bite on top of the wages or self-employment.


Sounds like that's not retirement years to me. But I get it. Lots of people wait too long in life to save for retirement or bad decisions prevented them from being able to save very much if any at all. If you can retire early (62), debt free and still live withing your means, you shouldn't have to pay tax on much, if any of it. Eventually RMD will force many into a higher bracket. You may run, but you can`t hide from the tax man forever.


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Be awful tough to live in the metroplex on 32,000 and that's even with having no mortgage. Property taxes and insurances (auto +home) at most place will eat up half that...then you have utilities and such. I guess if every dollar you ever saved for retirement was ROTH (which for you youngsters, I wish I had done) then it's a different story but 32k ain't much now days.

I agree. My intent was to show how SS is taxed though and not surviving on 32K. The couple in the video made 70632.00 on SS though and if it had not been for 19812.00 received from a pension and IRA/ RMD they would have paid no taxes on the social security. Even after making over 90k gross income, they only paid 297.00 total taxes or 0.33%.

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We're both on SS. With medicare/insurance and RMDs, Fed tax is still way too high.

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I didn’t realize just how little the taxes are compared to the damn monthly Medicare fee.


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I don't draw SS, so I have never looked into it, but should I assume a pension paying well more than 44,000 a year would also take SS payments into the 85% taxable range?

Absolutely. That’s where I am with only my govt pension, in addition to my SS.

That is the boat the wife and I are in. Between my SS, her TRS Pension, taxable interest and her substitute teaching pay (she is 5 years younger than me) my SS is taxed at 85%.

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Originally Posted by Sniper John
I don't draw SS, so I have never looked into it, but should I assume a pension paying well more than 44,000 a year would also take SS payments into the 85% taxable range?

Yes.


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