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Taxes on Social Security
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03/05/25 08:56 PM
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This is a pretty good illustration about how little taxes you actually pay on Social Security in retirement.
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Re: Taxes on Social Security
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03/05/25 11:22 PM
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I watch him fairly regularly. I guess I’m on his algorithm
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Re: Taxes on Social Security
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03/06/25 01:15 PM
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Well, yes, what he's saying is correct for retirees who can get by on SSA with limited IRA or other supplemental income. But most of the tax returns I do for older folks are people who have to continue working during retirement years . . . husband & wife each earning a paycheck turns 85% of their SSA benefits taxable, which translates to a big tax bite on top of the wages or self-employment.
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Re: Taxes on Social Security
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03/06/25 01:24 PM
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I don't know about taxes on SS, but I received my backpay today! 
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03/06/25 01:50 PM
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I don't know about taxes on SS, but I received my backpay today!  Wife got her direct deposit pending in bank account last night also! Whoop! Still waiting on letter for final additional monthly amount, it starts with April payment.
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Re: Taxes on Social Security
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03/06/25 02:05 PM
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Just started mine. Over half going to taxes, fair share, medicare, supplement plan, drug plan, etc.
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Re: Taxes on Social Security
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03/06/25 04:23 PM
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Well, yes, what he's saying is correct for retirees who can get by on SSA with limited IRA or other supplemental income. But most of the tax returns I do for older folks are people who have to continue working during retirement years . . . husband & wife each earning a paycheck turns 85% of their SSA benefits taxable, which translates to a big tax bite on top of the wages or self-employment. Sounds like that's not retirement years to me. But I get it. Lots of people wait too long in life to save for retirement or bad decisions prevented them from being able to save very much if any at all. If you can retire early (62), debt free and still live withing your means, you shouldn't have to pay tax on much, if any of it. Eventually RMD will force many into a higher bracket. You may run, but you can`t hide from the tax man forever. ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2025/03/full-8162-447090-reduce1.jpg)
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Re: Taxes on Social Security
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03/06/25 06:23 PM
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Well, yes, what he's saying is correct for retirees who can get by on SSA with limited IRA or other supplemental income. But most of the tax returns I do for older folks are people who have to continue working during retirement years . . . husband & wife each earning a paycheck turns 85% of their SSA benefits taxable, which translates to a big tax bite on top of the wages or self-employment. Sounds like that's not retirement years to me. But I get it. Lots of people wait too long in life to save for retirement or bad decisions prevented them from being able to save very much if any at all. If you can retire early (62), debt free and still live withing your means, you shouldn't have to pay tax on much, if any of it. Eventually RMD will force many into a higher bracket. You may run, but you can`t hide from the tax man forever. Be awful tough to live in the metroplex on 32,000 and that's even with having no mortgage. Property taxes and insurances (auto +home) at most place will eat up half that...then you have utilities and such. I guess if every dollar you ever saved for retirement was ROTH (which for you youngsters, I wish I had done) then it's a different story but 32k ain't much now days.
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Re: Taxes on Social Security
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03/06/25 06:29 PM
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I don't draw SS, so I have never looked into it, but should I assume a pension paying well more than 44,000 a year would also take SS payments into the 85% taxable range?
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Re: Taxes on Social Security
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03/06/25 08:09 PM
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I fall well above the $44k so this is a big tax bite for me...
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Re: Taxes on Social Security
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03/06/25 08:15 PM
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I don't draw SS, so I have never looked into it, but should I assume a pension paying well more than 44,000 a year would also take SS payments into the 85% taxable range? Absolutely. That’s where I am with only my govt pension, in addition to my SS.
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Re: Taxes on Social Security
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03/06/25 08:27 PM
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Well, yes, what he's saying is correct for retirees who can get by on SSA with limited IRA or other supplemental income. But most of the tax returns I do for older folks are people who have to continue working during retirement years . . . husband & wife each earning a paycheck turns 85% of their SSA benefits taxable, which translates to a big tax bite on top of the wages or self-employment. Sounds like that's not retirement years to me. But I get it. Lots of people wait too long in life to save for retirement or bad decisions prevented them from being able to save very much if any at all. If you can retire early (62), debt free and still live withing your means, you shouldn't have to pay tax on much, if any of it. Eventually RMD will force many into a higher bracket. You may run, but you can`t hide from the tax man forever. Be awful tough to live in the metroplex on 32,000 and that's even with having no mortgage. Property taxes and insurances (auto +home) at most place will eat up half that...then you have utilities and such. I guess if every dollar you ever saved for retirement was ROTH (which for you youngsters, I wish I had done) then it's a different story but 32k ain't much now days. I agree. My intent was to show how SS is taxed though and not surviving on 32K. The couple in the video made 70632.00 on SS though and if it had not been for 19812.00 received from a pension and IRA/ RMD they would have paid no taxes on the social security. Even after making over 90k gross income, they only paid 297.00 total taxes or 0.33%.
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Re: Taxes on Social Security
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03/06/25 08:32 PM
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We're both on SS. With medicare/insurance and RMDs, Fed tax is still way too high.
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Re: Taxes on Social Security
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03/06/25 08:34 PM
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I didn’t realize just how little the taxes are compared to the damn monthly Medicare fee.
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Re: Taxes on Social Security
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03/06/25 08:51 PM
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I don't draw SS, so I have never looked into it, but should I assume a pension paying well more than 44,000 a year would also take SS payments into the 85% taxable range? Absolutely. That’s where I am with only my govt pension, in addition to my SS. That is the boat the wife and I are in. Between my SS, her TRS Pension, taxable interest and her substitute teaching pay (she is 5 years younger than me) my SS is taxed at 85%.
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Re: Taxes on Social Security
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03/06/25 09:08 PM
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I don't draw SS, so I have never looked into it, but should I assume a pension paying well more than 44,000 a year would also take SS payments into the 85% taxable range? Yes.
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