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 Texas Archeological Discovery
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18 hours ago
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Re: Texas Archeological Discovery
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#9194027
18 hours ago
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Sneaky
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Highly suspect.
1. His hat is brand new. No dirt. No sweat ring. It’s for the cameras.
2. She has a British accent, but her teeth are just fine.
3. Clovis is in New Mexico, not Texas.
4. Nobody is digging that deep in Texas without high explosives or a tricone bit. I saw neither.
5. The earth isn’t that old.
6. That rock was an Indian love stone. Nothing special.
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Re: Texas Archeological Discovery
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#9194037
17 hours ago
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ntxtrapper
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Very interesting. Digging into a site for 15 years near Austin is quite an accomplishment.
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Re: Texas Archeological Discovery
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flintknapper
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3. Clovis is in New Mexico, not Texas.
'Clovis' (the city) is indeed in New Mexio, but what they were referring to was the Clovis Period of Paleo Indians and the Clovis lanceolate points associated with that group and time period. The name for that point type does come from first discoveries in Clovis, New Mexico but is not what was being discussed in the video. The Clovis 'point' is the most widely distributed projectile point in North America.
Spartans ask not...how many, but where!
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Re: Texas Archeological Discovery
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16 hours ago
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flintknapper
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Very interesting. Digging into a site for 15 years near Austin is quite an accomplishment. Likely headed and funded by the U.T. Austin. But from that short video, nothing new established. Not sure the reason for all the hype.
Spartans ask not...how many, but where!
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Re: Texas Archeological Discovery
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15 hours ago
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ntxtrapper
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Very interesting. Digging into a site for 15 years near Austin is quite an accomplishment. Likely headed and funded by the U.T. Austin. But from that short video, nothing new established. Not sure the reason for all the hype. This is from several years ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-pAE-u8Mgc
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Re: Texas Archeological Discovery
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Re: Texas Archeological Discovery
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ntxtrapper
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Very interesting. Digging into a site for 15 years near Austin is quite an accomplishment. Likely headed and funded by the U.T. Austin. But from that short video, nothing new established. Not sure the reason for all the hype. All the points I’ve found around here are notched points except for one which is the first one I ever found. If I posted a pic of it can you tell from about what time frame it’s from? I tried looking it up before and couldn’t find a close enough example to tell for sure.
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Re: Texas Archeological Discovery
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#9194049
12 hours ago
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The Clovis first movement has been dead for years.
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Re: Texas Archeological Discovery
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#9194050
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You're going to need some showering in that test pit sir.
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Re: Texas Archeological Discovery
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#9194057
11 hours ago
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3. Clovis is in New Mexico, not Texas.
'Clovis' (the city) is indeed in New Mexio, but what they were referring to was the Clovis Period of Paleo Indians and the Clovis lanceolate points associated with that group and time period. The name for that point type does come from first discoveries in Clovis, New Mexico but is not what was being discussed in the video. The Clovis 'point' is the most widely distributed projectile point in North America. ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2025/03/full-40300-446758-img_8862.jpeg)
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Re: Texas Archeological Discovery
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#9194073
10 hours ago
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3. Clovis is in New Mexico, not Texas.
'Clovis' (the city) is indeed in New Mexio, but what they were referring to was the Clovis Period of Paleo Indians and the Clovis lanceolate points associated with that group and time period. The name for that point type does come from first discoveries in Clovis, New Mexico but is not what was being discussed in the video. The Clovis 'point' is the most widely distributed projectile point in North America. 
I believe in science and I’m an insufferable [censored] Actually, BBC is pretty damn good "You Cannot Simultaneously Be Politically Correct And Intellectually Honest!"
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Re: Texas Archeological Discovery
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#9194093
9 hours ago
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This archaeologist didn’t study the “Midland Man”. Detailed in a 1954 Time Magazine article, this guy was a very interesting find. The ranching family (of which one great grandson is a good friend of mine) didn’t allow any further excavation. https://time.com/archive/6798477/science-midland-man/
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Re: Texas Archeological Discovery
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9 hours ago
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flintknapper
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Very interesting. Digging into a site for 15 years near Austin is quite an accomplishment. Likely headed and funded by the U.T. Austin. But from that short video, nothing new established. Not sure the reason for all the hype. All the points I’ve found around here are notched points except for one which is the first one I ever found. If I posted a pic of it can you tell from about what time frame it’s from? I tried looking it up before and couldn’t find a close enough example to tell for sure. Post it....we will see, or make a best guess.
Spartans ask not...how many, but where!
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Re: Texas Archeological Discovery
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7 hours ago
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In summary, is this what the video is saying?
- Official archeological science dates humans in Texas back to the Clovis period
- Archeological fieldwork in Texas has found possible scientific evidence that humans existed in Texas before the Clovis period
Isn't most of archeology work and research in Texas going to be done by the University of Texas or Texas A&M? Or is there some other group?
Why don't people like those PhDs and Doctorates of various subjects just come here and ask us before wasting all that grant money. We would tell them how it is and all the facts they didn't know.
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Re: Texas Archeological Discovery
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5 hours ago
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ntxtrapper
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Very interesting. Digging into a site for 15 years near Austin is quite an accomplishment. Likely headed and funded by the U.T. Austin. But from that short video, nothing new established. Not sure the reason for all the hype. All the points I’ve found around here are notched points except for one which is the first one I ever found. If I posted a pic of it can you tell from about what time frame it’s from? I tried looking it up before and couldn’t find a close enough example to tell for sure. Post it....we will see, or make a best guess. ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2025/03/full-19470-446784-img_1355.jpeg)
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Re: Texas Archeological Discovery
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#9194266
5 hours ago
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[quote=ntxtrapper]Very interesting. Digging into a site for 15 years near Austin is quite an accomplishment. Likely headed and funded by the U.T. Austin. But from that short video, nothing new established. Not sure the reason for all the hype. All the points I’ve found around here are notched points except for one which is the first one I ever found. If I posted a pic of it can you tell from about what time frame it’s from? I tried looking it up before and couldn’t find a close enough example to tell for sure. ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2025/03/full-56101-446795-aaaa_point.jpg)
Spartans ask not...how many, but where!
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Re: Texas Archeological Discovery
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5 hours ago
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ntxtrapper
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1 3/4 length, 1 1/16 width and nothing looks ground smooth. Sharp flaky edges. ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2025/03/full-19470-446796-full_56101_446795_aaaa_point.jpg)
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Re: Texas Archeological Discovery
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#9194276
4 hours ago
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flintknapper
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Heavily reworked 'Meserve' would be my best guess, but definitely a reworked point of some type. ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2025/03/full-56101-446799-meservez.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2025/03/full-56101-446800-meserve7.png) Nice find.
Spartans ask not...how many, but where!
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Re: Texas Archeological Discovery
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#9194306
3 hours ago
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In summary, is this what the video is saying?
- Official archeological science dates humans in Texas back to the Clovis period
- Archeological fieldwork in Texas has found possible scientific evidence that humans existed in Texas before the Clovis period
Isn't most of archeology work and research in Texas going to be done by the University of Texas or Texas A&M? Or is there some other group?
Why don't people like those PhDs and Doctorates of various subjects just come here and ask us before wasting all that grant money. We would tell them how it is and all the facts they didn't know. Your second part. I’ve got a good friend that works for a large engineering firm that has archeologists. He was telling me that they were on a site somewhere out around palo pinto that appeared to be where Indians killed, cleaned and cooked a buffalo. He said it was the 1st such find in Texas. (Not sure where that info came from) when I said “that’s pretty cool” he said well the developer doesn’t think so. So I wonder who funds such work on private property holding up a development?
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