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Re: Appraisal districts
[Re: topwater13]
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01/27/25 12:48 AM
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I feel like I should pay taxes on what I paid for it, that’s what they know it’s worth. When I sell it then it’s worth that. If they want me to pay something different they should have a check to pay me, if not go pound sand.
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Re: Appraisal districts
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01/27/25 02:02 AM
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I am paying Property taxes Friday afternoon. Paid mine on Friday also.
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Re: Appraisal districts
[Re: topwater13]
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01/27/25 02:46 AM
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I think many of us understand the need for taxes to pay for schools, roads and various services. I would also like to see taxes moved to a consumption/sales tax. The more you want....the more you pay. That way everyone shares the tax burden for the services we all receive.
The biggest heartburn I have is being taxed on an unrealized gain. Most of us purchase a home that falls within our budget. Mortgage, taxes, upkeep, etc. Your salary may not keep pace with the increase in your property tax.
For example. Guy A purchases a house for $200K. They did so because they know they can afford the mortgage and taxes for a $200K home. Just because that house or similar houses are selling for $300K a few years later doesn't mean that Guy A should now pay taxes for $300K. Guy A's income may not have went up a single dime, but he is now going to have to pay tax on the unrealized gain. I don't think it's right that Guy A or others on a fixed income can be taxed out of their home because they can no longer afford the higher property tax bill.
If you buy a house for $200K...you should only be required to pay a $200K tax bill for the entire time you own that house. If the house is sold 5 years later and is now valued at $300K, the new buyer will be responsible for taxes at a set rate of $300K. That way, the new buyer only purchases a house they know they can afford.
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Re: Appraisal districts
[Re: topwater13]
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01/27/25 02:54 AM
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Who would take a job working for these pricks? Especially the person that is in charge of looking for, and reporting "improvements". I barely have forms set for a shop addition and this c*nt is already scouting from the county road. Do they have random citizens they pay finder's fees for tattle tailing? Theft at best. They're mostly all nepotism appointments here locally. I dispute 20-30 properties a year for my family, past clients, and self. Pretty sure they have a picture of my face somewhere with some darts in it. If you don't fight their increases, they'll stick it to you every chance they get.
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Re: Appraisal districts
[Re: topwater13]
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01/27/25 10:48 AM
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So if someone has a bunch of obnoxious dogs that bark all the time will that lower the property values and taxes for the other nearby property owners? Asking for a friend.
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Re: Appraisal districts
[Re: topwater13]
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01/27/25 01:01 PM
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One would think with 24k new houses on the books for Wise county that taxes would actually go down. Not happening. Plus they will claim they HAVE to have a school bond to build a new school. Where does the influx of revenue go? Most of it still goes to the ISD. It isn't like the county/city is building new roads. I am all for JimTX's idea.....or get rid of it all together. And yes, I think it is perfectly reasonable to not want to pay taxes.
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Re: Appraisal districts
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01/27/25 01:47 PM
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I think many of us understand the need for taxes to pay for schools, roads and various services. I would also like to see taxes moved to a consumption/sales tax. The more you want....the more you pay. That way everyone shares the tax burden for the services we all receive.
The biggest heartburn I have is being taxed on an unrealized gain. Most of us purchase a home that falls within our budget. Mortgage, taxes, upkeep, etc. Your salary may not keep pace with the increase in your property tax.
For example. Guy A purchases a house for $200K. They did so because they know they can afford the mortgage and taxes for a $200K home. Just because that house or similar houses are selling for $300K a few years later doesn't mean that Guy A should now pay taxes for $300K. Guy A's income may not have went up a single dime, but he is now going to have to pay tax on the unrealized gain. I don't think it's right that Guy A or others on a fixed income can be taxed out of their home because they can no longer afford the higher property tax bill.
If you buy a house for $200K...you should only be required to pay a $200K tax bill for the entire time you own that house. If the house is sold 5 years later and is now valued at $300K, the new buyer will be responsible for taxes at a set rate of $300K. That way, the new buyer only purchases a house they know they can afford. Feel like only property owners paying property taxes is a big misconception, yes the property owner winds up writing a check, but that check comes from the rent paid. Still not saying property taxes are the best way, but they are what we have now. If the guy with 200k home and fixed income was using his head he would know that property taxes have been around for longer here than most of us he should have planned ahead. My guess is the same person would be complaining about other taxes when he had to pay 15% sales tax on a $4-5 a pound brisket that use to be $0.70 a pound. I think I would pay more in taxes on a consumption tax.
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Re: Appraisal districts
[Re: topwater13]
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01/27/25 01:50 PM
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One would think with 24k new houses on the books for Wise county that taxes would actually go down. Not happening. Plus they will claim they HAVE to have a school bond to build a new school. Where does the influx of revenue go? Most of it still goes to the ISD. It isn't like the county/city is building new roads. I am all for JimTX's idea.....or get rid of it all together. And yes, I think it is perfectly reasonable to not want to pay taxes. Lol why would they go down? Now the city county and school has serve utilities and schools and maintain roads etc to 75k more people plus the business etc. that will come. The developer from those 24k homes and the old rancher that sold the land are walking away with pockets full of money and the city/municipality etc is paying the bill.
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Re: Appraisal districts
[Re: topwater13]
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01/27/25 02:02 PM
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Old ranchers hardly making a killing on land, half the time it's their dipshit kids selling off their life's work and dreams for pennies on the dollar so they can go on vacation to Europe for a week.
Developers are the scum of the earth, down there with used car salesmen and 99% of realtors and lawyers.
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Re: Appraisal districts
[Re: topwater13]
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01/27/25 02:49 PM
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Mine have never saw a school bond that they could not pass up. They have big signs they put up all over town urging voters to vote for new bond issue(seems like every 2yrs)......its for the chirren after all.
All that money and teachers still have to buy their own class supplies....too much waste in the bureaucracy IMHO.
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Re: Appraisal districts
[Re: redchevy]
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01/27/25 03:08 PM
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One would think with 24k new houses on the books for Wise county that taxes would actually go down. Not happening. Plus they will claim they HAVE to have a school bond to build a new school. Where does the influx of revenue go? Most of it still goes to the ISD. It isn't like the county/city is building new roads. I am all for JimTX's idea.....or get rid of it all together. And yes, I think it is perfectly reasonable to not want to pay taxes. Lol why would they go down? Now the city county and school has serve utilities and schools and maintain roads etc to 75k more people plus the business etc. that will come. The developer from those 24k homes and the old rancher that sold the land are walking away with pockets full of money and the city/municipality etc is paying the bill. LOL is math hard for you? I know you and your family make money because of big govt, while most here make money in spite of big govt, but jeez. You can't girl math the fact that the added income to the county/city will be over $168 million on 24k homes on a $7k average. Just because there is more ppl on the roads doesn't mean they are building more. The schools will still NEED a bond to do anything...not to mention many of the "urban exodus" folk are retirement age....so no children in school. The builder/developers have to put in the utilities before they subdivide... You're still putting lipstick on a pig....just paying more for it. In other words, outside of the county filling some pot holes, there isn't much I see benefitting me or my neighbors.
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Re: Appraisal districts
[Re: topwater13]
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01/27/25 03:22 PM
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Resorting to name calling, so are you out of factual info? I don’t make money from big govt. I make money for people who need my service. Several of the last jobs I did were ranches for grandparents retiring and getting out of the rat race for a place to enjoy with their kids and grand kids. But sounds like you already know everything about me and can cure the worlds problems so long as you don’t pay taxes so get after it.
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Re: Appraisal districts
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01/27/25 03:48 PM
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I guess somes of you would rather pay a state income tax. Not I. I'd be happy to. Then I only have to pay tax no what I actually make. My property tax went up 57% from 2021 - 2024 (and yes that is challenging it - TWICE!!)
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Re: Appraisal districts
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01/27/25 03:52 PM
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Resorting to name calling, so are you out of factual info? I don’t make money from big govt. I make money for people who need my service. Several of the last jobs I did were ranches for grandparents retiring and getting out of the rat race for a place to enjoy with their kids and grand kids. But sounds like you already know everything about me and can cure the worlds problems so long as you don’t pay taxes so get after it. I didn't name call. Don't be offended. I listed factual info in my last post. Keeping up is hard I guess.
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Re: Appraisal districts
[Re: topwater13]
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01/27/25 03:59 PM
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It takes a lot to offend me. Girl math ain’t gonna do it. You listed bs.
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Re: Appraisal districts
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01/27/25 04:08 PM
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Whatever it is, so be it. See the obstacles, impediments and pitfalls in life and figure out how to overcome them. I do but "they" keep changing the rules of the game.
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Re: Appraisal districts
[Re: JimTX]
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01/27/25 04:18 PM
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[quote=JimTX]
The biggest heartburn I have is being taxed on an unrealized gain. Most of us purchase a home that falls within our budget. Mortgage, taxes, upkeep, etc. Your salary may not keep pace with the increase in your property tax. "
Totally agree. This is also why the retired fixed income property owners are in a bind. It would be nice if the property appraisals were frozen along with the tax rates at age 65. I've posted before on here - the state comptroller is half the problem in this property tax scam. For that I blame Abbott. The protest / appeal system is slanted against the property owner who must gamble with more $ to get past your local jerks.
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Re: Appraisal districts
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01/27/25 04:19 PM
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They use flyovers that take pictures. I briefly worked for one. And if you only knew how shady it is times it by 10. And yes they do sit in the office comparing pictures and they do drive by and take pictures at least every 3 years. In your experience, How were portable structures viewed by the local appraisal district?
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Re: Appraisal districts
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01/27/25 04:53 PM
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I guess somes of you would rather pay a state income tax. Not I. I'd be happy to. Then I only have to pay tax no what I actually make. My property tax went up 57% from 2021 - 2024 (and yes that is challenging it - TWICE!!) Depending on your area, it may have increased, but at this point there is no reason for it to be higher. The market in the second half of 2024 stunk up the place. I simply ask them to provide me with the comparable properties that have sold and then I make fun of their appraisers for an hour on Skype while I educate them on how to deduct for the differences and why they can't compare my property to one that had twice as much square footage just because it was across the street. I speak to them with respect, but I do let them know that they are in no shape or form educated on the market when they don't even know how to do comps.
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Re: Appraisal districts
[Re: topwater13]
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01/27/25 05:25 PM
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The last time I protested here at home in Kendall County, their "evidence" was what they were trying to raise other places around me to and calling those "comps." Not what they were actually valued at, or what they've actually recently sold for, just what the CAD was wishing for. That's smoke-and-mirrors flim-flam and unethical as hell. They were just seeing who they could buffalo. They're not all angels.
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Re: Appraisal districts
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01/27/25 06:01 PM
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Exactly, we file an intent to protest every year just to see their "comp's". It's insane. They will send us properties at least 10 miles away from ours, always significantly more sq footage, usually larger parcels of land, and more out buildings. Then they'll "adjust" to arrive at a value. All that when in my neighborhood there are multiple properties extremely similar to mine that would require little to no "adjustment" to make it truly comparable. It's all so they can scam me because I I have formally protested and they cannot explain to me in any understandable way how they "adjust" to arrive at a value. That little aspect alone goes against the tax code as it is written. Everything they do must be able to be explained to me in clear "understandable" verbiage, and they can't do that. So right there, they are not following the intent of the tax code as written.
It's all a means of legal theft from the citizens and I, for one, will not do anything that aids a thief in stealing from me.
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Re: Appraisal districts
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The last time I protested here at home in Kendall County, their "evidence" was what they were trying to raise other places around me to and calling those "comps." Not what they were actually valued at, or what they've actually recently sold for, just what the CAD was wishing for. That's smoke-and-mirrors flim-flam and unethical as hell. They were just seeing who they could buffalo. They're not all angels. Yep. Happens all the time. I feel bad for the older folks that aren't savvy and just want to pay their fair share. They think they're doing right, but the city just robs them blind.
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Re: Appraisal districts
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01/27/25 11:36 PM
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I get almost zero in return is my issue. No water, no fire department, county roads are so bad I fix them myself and the SO is so understaffed they wouldn’t be much help if I needed them. I have no idea what they spend the taxes on but it’s sure not basic services.
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Re: Appraisal districts
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01/27/25 11:55 PM
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I get almost zero in return is my issue. No water, no fire department, county roads are so bad I fix them myself and the SO is so understaffed they wouldn’t be much help if I needed them. I have no idea what they spend the taxes on but it’s sure not basic services. I am several counties away from you and in the exact same situation.
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Re: Appraisal districts
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I get almost zero in return is my issue. No water, no fire department, county roads are so bad I fix them myself and the SO is so understaffed they wouldn’t be much help if I needed them. I have no idea what they spend the taxes on but it’s sure not basic services. I am several counties away from you and in the exact same situation. Count me in too and I'm several counties away from the both of ya
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