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What is going on
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01/08/25 04:14 AM
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sunsetroosters
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Finally got moved in out at my land this year and the young bucks got me to bust out all the gear. I havent been after birds in a few years. I know I cant Be the only one but i am not seeing jack compared to what Im used to. I even went to a couple ace in the hole spots and was astonished at the low numbers. I already know the difficulty in my area but I’ve been blown away at the low numbers. I live about a mile or two from the south end of the closest lake to me and i noticed after getting all my gear out that I dont Even see birds flying into roost on that lake like i used to. For instance i didnt see one single flock watching this evening. What is going on?
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Re: What is going on
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#9165702
01/08/25 12:18 PM
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Guy
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The bird pattern has been puzzling this year. There are birds out there, they are just on the move and in different spots.
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Re: What is going on
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#9165765
01/08/25 02:36 PM
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tophorsecop
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My perception is that they haven't migrated South yet...I'm in Central Texas and drove a 300 mile loop hauling a horse for the vet. I easily scanned 200+ tanks of varying sizes...several acres to a few hundred square feet... that I have visually scanned several times each year...the results were that I only saw ducks on 2 of the tanks...7 teal on a small tank...a couple thousand square feet of surface, and then 40-50 ducks, teal and grey ducks on a 3-4 acre tank...the bird numbers in the area between (W) Burnet, TX and (E) Wheelock, TX, (N) Holland, TX and Carmine, TX just aren't there... unless they were all on that nameless lake in the area...which would not jive with reports from hunters on that lake...birds usually show in large numbers between Thanksgiving and Christmas in this area...typical tank hunts get 3-4 birds per hunter, occasionally limits, this year...averaging less than 1 bird per hunter/day.
"Guns don't kill people, Guns kill dinner!"
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Re: What is going on
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#9165877
01/08/25 05:03 PM
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ErnestTBass
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My perception is that they haven't migrated South yet...I'm in Central Texas and drove a 300 mile loop hauling a horse for the vet. I easily scanned 200+ tanks of varying sizes...several acres to a few hundred square feet... that I have visually scanned several times each year...the results were that I only saw ducks on 2 of the tanks...7 teal on a small tank...a couple thousand square feet of surface, and then 40-50 ducks, teal and grey ducks on a 3-4 acre tank...the bird numbers in the area between (W) Burnet, TX and (E) Wheelock, TX, (N) Holland, TX and Carmine, TX just aren't there... unless they were all on that nameless lake in the area...which would not jive with reports from hunters on that lake...birds usually show in large numbers between Thanksgiving and Christmas in this area...typical tank hunts get 3-4 birds per hunter, occasionally limits, this year...averaging less than 1 bird per hunter/day. We hunt in NE Texas every year in December, and we saw and were told the same thing. Not enough big cold fronts to push the birds down yet. Hunting was really tough. The birds were all still hanging out in Missouri. I think it's gotten a little better just lately.
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Re: What is going on
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#9165894
01/08/25 05:44 PM
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16ga
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Well...if they're hanging out in MO/KS its either in dry fields or the river. All the bottoms and ponds are locked up. Bit of of a thaw coming tomorrow.
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Re: What is going on
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#9165904
01/08/25 06:02 PM
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Guy
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Bit of of a thaw coming tomorrow. Damit.
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Re: What is going on
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#9165927
01/08/25 07:03 PM
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tophorsecop
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Yes, damit...we need 7-10 days with high temps below 20 degrees, in the zone above the Red River, to lock up the open water areas and force the birds South...damit,,,running out of season
"Guns don't kill people, Guns kill dinner!"
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Re: What is going on
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#9166241
01/09/25 12:59 PM
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BigHutch
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We are seeing (actually not seeing) the same thing over here in Louisiana. We hunt a premier marsh in SW Louisiana. Duck numbers are horrible. Basically, we are happy to be able to shoot something. We are only seeing just a handful of ducks each hunt.
From the reports I have been getting from friends the ducks aren’t up north in great numbers. I honestly believe we are waiting on paper ducks to arrive and no amount of cold weather or snow will make those paper ducks appear.
Just my 2 cents Big Hutch
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Re: What is going on
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#9166274
01/09/25 02:13 PM
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DUKFVR
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We are seeing (actually not seeing) the same thing over here in Louisiana. We hunt a premier marsh in SW Louisiana. Duck numbers are horrible. Basically, we are happy to be able to shoot something. We are only seeing just a handful of ducks each hunt.
From the reports I have been getting from friends the ducks aren’t up north in great numbers. I honestly believe we are waiting on paper ducks to arrive and no amount of cold weather or snow will make those paper ducks appear.
Just my 2 cents Big Hutch I Agree with you 100%
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Re: What is going on
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#9166276
01/09/25 02:17 PM
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Guy
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Re: What is going on
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#9166289
01/09/25 02:37 PM
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huck18
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I would assume survey numbers and counts that just aren’t showing up in the real life hunting data.
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Re: What is going on
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#9166299
01/09/25 02:57 PM
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tophorsecop
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Paper ducks are wood ducks that have been sent to the pulp mill...sorry, couldn't help myself///
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Re: What is going on
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#9166308
01/09/25 03:13 PM
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BigHutch
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Paper ducks are wood ducks that have been sent to the pulp mill...sorry, couldn't help myself/// As a forester and wildlife biologist, that’s funny right there!!
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Re: What is going on
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01/09/25 03:21 PM
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BigHutch
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I would assume survey numbers and counts that just aren’t showing up in the real life hunting data. That’s right. Ducks that don’t exist in real life and only exist as numbers based on statistical calculations, extrapolations, and assumptions. If you look at the USFWS harvest data from the past versus today, their own numbers show a dramatic decrease in the numbers of ducks harvested. That decrease in the southern states like Texas and Louisiana does nit correlate to an increased harvest in other areas of the flyways. The numbers show quite the opposite. Harvest numbers in the north are also down significantly. That indicates the “excess” ducks not showing up in the south are not in stacked up in the northern states.
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Re: What is going on
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#9166512
01/09/25 07:39 PM
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TLew
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You might have just missed the migration based on where you're at. I was out deer hunting at the end of the December and I saw wave after wave of ducks migrating on 12/30 and 12/31. Definitely over 1k in just what I saw from my small area and was the most concentrated migration I've seen in Cross Timbers ever
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Re: What is going on
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#9166538
01/09/25 08:11 PM
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Navasot
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No ducks in Tx.... maybe next year
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Re: What is going on
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#9167756
01/11/25 03:12 PM
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Fowl Language
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This season has been a little disappointing. 9 hunts on public, 5 birds. Hardly saw any birds on those hunts. I went out late yesterday on a big lake and did see some teal, gadwal and couple of hoodies(not woodies ) but they gave no interest and flew the middle of the lake. Heard no shots fired in the area. Day looked perfect but nothing. Couple weeks more. I'll keep trying.
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Re: What is going on
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#9167789
01/11/25 03:56 PM
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It has been weird. One of the guides we hunted with began the season in Canada and remarked the migration is 3 weeks behind because of weather and fronts.
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Re: What is going on
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#9168691
01/13/25 02:36 AM
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Sharc
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It’s been relatively slow/challenging down here in Central Texas. Birds have been scarce. We’re just now starting to see some in our spots but tried a new place today and only saw 3 birds….. which was odd.
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Re: What is going on
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#9168818
01/13/25 02:11 PM
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KWAKZ
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We are seeing (actually not seeing) the same thing over here in Louisiana. We hunt a premier marsh in SW Louisiana. Duck numbers are horrible. Basically, we are happy to be able to shoot something. We are only seeing just a handful of ducks each hunt.
From the reports I have been getting from friends the ducks aren’t up north in great numbers. I honestly believe we are waiting on paper ducks to arrive and no amount of cold weather or snow will make those paper ducks appear.
Just my 2 cents Big Hutch Can echo this. We have only made a couple of hunts all season as our sections of SWLA marsh just arent holding any birds to hunt.
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Re: What is going on
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#9168876
01/13/25 04:27 PM
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Guy
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For about the 3rd time this season, found a spot holding about 100 mallards, and then a no show in the morning, odd…. So many mud boats on the water these days, not like it used to be. The birds never get a rest.
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Re: What is going on
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#9168912
01/13/25 05:56 PM
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So many mud boats on the water these days, not like it used to be. The birds never get a rest. Agreed. I went on a scout/hunt Sat afternoon in an area where I usually see nobody... maybe one other boat. There were 3 groups hunting and I could hear boats running all around. Saw big groups of teal and a big portion of those were hens. They should have been on the coast a month ago. Even the mesquites out west just dropped their leaves. Everything is way behind. On the plus side, I did find a lot of new birds, but so did everybody else.
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Re: What is going on
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#9169422
01/14/25 04:15 PM
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Wytex
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We have a bitter cold front coming all across the Rockies and Midwest- several days of below zero temps, your birds will be coming down with this one if any are left up this way.
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Re: What is going on
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#9169503
01/14/25 06:12 PM
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bassfishinglawyer
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Over 100 (60% widgeon, 20% gadwall, 20% ringneck) on our 4-acre pond yesterday morning east of Sherman. Most I've seen all year. Cold weather next week ought to keep them coming.
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Re: What is going on
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01/19/25 02:17 PM
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Greekangler
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